Podcast Summary: Call Her Creator with Katelyn Rhoades
Episode 122: This Is the Weirdest Season of Growth I’ve Ever Been In: The In-Between Before Your Next Level
Host: Katelyn Rhoades
Date: January 28, 2026
Episode Overview
In this introspective solo episode, Katelyn Rhoades opens up about experiencing an unusual and "quiet" season of growth. She explores the discomfort and uncertainty of the "in-between" phase—the time after one chapter ends but before the next begins. Katelyn draws from her own life and career, the wisdom from an impactful quote, and themes of faith and surrender, offering encouragement to fellow ambitious women navigating transition, stagnation, or subtle transformation.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Inspiration: A Powerful Quote
[01:20]
- Katelyn was inspired by a late-night quote that resonated with her current mood:
"You're ready. A new chapter has been hovering over you for a long period of time... The habits you needed to kick are now in memory of your past. The energies you needed to let go of have been released... The warrior in you has earned its divine surprise."
- The quote struck her because she didn't feel "ready" at all—rather, she was experiencing resistance, caution, and a slower, more reflective pace.
Notable Quote:
"If I'm being honest with you, there are days right now where I don't feel ready. I feel cautious, I feel quieter than usual. I feel like I'm moving slower. I'm thinking more, I'm questioning everything... I'm a crazy ball of crazy is what I would say."
—Katelyn Rhoades [02:05]
2. The “In-Between” Season Defined
[04:35]
- Katelyn discusses the unsettled feeling when "nothing is technically wrong, but nothing feels settled, either."
- She relates this to past phases:
- While working a 9-to-5; everything seemed fine, but she felt disconnected and unfulfilled.
- During her business's rapid growth; she didn’t feel excitement or stress—just grounded detachment.
Notable Quote:
"I'm not on that high. I'm not on the low. I'm just quiet. There's definitely some less urgency in me... But right now, I'm just calm. I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm not running and chasing for new leads. I'm not even, like, explaining myself."
—Katelyn Rhoades [07:15]
- She normalizes losing clients as part of the business cycle and notices her own calm response compared to previous "panic" reactions.
3. Outgrowing Old Habits & Surrendering Control
[09:50]
- Katelyn notes that she’s less motivated by things that used to inspire action.
- Instead of forcing success or chasing leads, she trusts what’s meant for her will come at the right time.
Notable Quote:
"When old patterns stop working, you don't immediately get the new ones. There's just this gap, and there's a weird in between... So I know I won't do that anymore, but I'm still figuring out what I'll do instead."
—Katelyn Rhoades [10:30]
- She frames this not as laziness but as discernment and a healthier, less reactive approach.
4. The Paradox of Surrender & Doors Opening
[12:20]
- Drawing on personal experience, Katelyn recalls how, in life and business (even with her second child after fertility struggles), the most significant doors opened after she stopped chasing and surrendered to timing.
Notable Quote:
"Surrender sounds nice in theory, but in real life, it really... feels like letting go of control when you don't have that backup plan. It's basically saying, like, I trust that if it's meant for me, I won't miss it."
—Katelyn Rhoades [13:40]
- True security—and readiness for new chapters—comes from enduring phases where desired outcomes aren’t immediate.
5. Stillness as a Sign of Growth
[15:05]
- Katelyn argues that stillness, quietness, and less reactive energy are often precursors to major changes.
- She encourages listeners that this is not shrinking or losing momentum, but deep listening—an essential, if invisible, part of growth.
Notable Quote:
"If your life feels quieter right now, if your reactions are a little bit slower, if you're less interested in explaining your next move... That is not you shrinking. That is you listening. And listening seasons are very powerful."
—Katelyn Rhoades [16:02]
6. Being Present in the “Hallway” Moments
[18:24]
- Katelyn admits she doesn’t have a detailed plan for 2026 and resists rushing to fill the void.
- She reflects on current life circumstances impacting her pace: health (Hashimoto’s), building a house, running her agency—all requiring intentionality.
- She urges listeners to consider the possibility that slower seasons are purposeful and to “stay present long enough to recognize when all this is happening and what’s happening.”
Notable Quote:
"Some of these chapters we live in, they close very quietly. And some of these doors we're supposed to walk through, they open without noise. They open very quietly."
—Katelyn Rhoades [20:50]
Memorable Moments and Takeaways
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[20:10] Katelyn encourages listeners not to rush or force clarity:
"You don't need to force that clarity, and I don't need to be rushing the answer because maybe it's just not there yet. Maybe I'm supposed to be right where I am right now."
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[22:00] She closes with a message of solidarity and support:
"If you are in this place right now, I see you. I don't want you to rush things. I don't want you to force things. I don't want you to feel like you are missing out, because you're not. You are just standing still long enough so that you won't miss out on what it is when it arrives."
Recap of Practical Wisdom
- Slow and uncertain seasons—where nothing seems clearly right or wrong—often precede transformation.
- Letting go of frantic action and sitting in discomfort builds inner trust and clarity.
- Growth can be quiet and internal—discernment, not laziness.
- Stillness isn’t stagnation; it’s space for the next door to open.
- Don’t force a path—allow events and clarity to unfold in their own time.
- You’re never alone in feeling “in between” or off-balance.
Connect with Katelyn and the Call Her Creator Community
For listeners who feel "in the hallway"—on the threshold of transformation but unsure of what’s next—this episode offers comfort, validation, and permission to honor the stillness.