Podcast Summary: Call It What It Is
Episode: Call It Locking In, Glow-Up Goals, and Going Back-To-School!
Hosts: Jessica Capshaw & Camilla Luddington
Release Date: September 15, 2025
Podcast by: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Overview
Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington—real-life BFFs best known for their roles at Grey Sloan Memorial—gather for a candid, relatable conversation about seasonal transitions, personal growth, and the enduring chaos of balancing work, family, and friends. This episode dives into the "lock in" trend for fall, strategies for creating new habits, the meaning of radical acceptance, and how back-to-school energy affects them as working moms (with plenty of hilarious asides and heartwarming moments about their friendship along the way).
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Back to School & Fall Energy
[03:17–08:42]
- Both hosts share their experiences of September marking the return to work and routines—describing how TV production runs similarly to a school calendar.
- Jessica discusses attending the ABC End-of-Summer Soirée, walking the red carpet, and spotting colleagues and celebrities ("You were the first picture carousel and I was like, yeah, damn right, she's the first." – Camilla, 04:43).
- Camilla details missing the soirée due to shooting outside in 100 degree weather and almost getting heatstroke ("I would have looked ridiculous next to you because you were glowing. I would have been sweating." – Camilla, 08:04).
- Humorous fashion misadventures: Camilla almost wore a tweed fall outfit to a summer event due to her British logic about seasonal transitions, much to Jessica's amusement.
2. The Ticketmaster Struggle & Concerts
[09:00–11:46]
- Camilla recounts her epic battle securing Oasis tickets through Ticketmaster, empathizing with Taylor Swift fans.
"Can I tell you what number me and my family were on Ticketmaster? ... 100,000 in line." – Camilla, 09:53
- They both lament the stress and expense of concert ticketing and the high-pressure decision-making experience.
3. The "Lock In" Trend for Fall
[11:46–14:26, 18:49–23:49]
- Jessica introduces the concept of a “lock in”: Focusing and optimizing habits between September and December, as a sort of preemptive New Year's Resolution.
"It's moving New Year's resolutions...so people are making all these pledges to do things that, you know, optimize life." – Jessica, 13:06
- They explore what it means to “lock in”—from fitness routines, limiting phone use, journaling, to meal prepping.
- Camilla asks if "lock in" is about choosing one major goal or doing everything at once. Jessica explains it's a personalized experience—you "lock in" to what you specifically need.
"I think you just can make a list of the things that you want to lock in about." – Jessica, 19:55
- Both agree that phone use before bed is a challenge and discuss real-life attempts to set healthier digital boundaries ("I can't be trusted. The other night I got into bed... Two hours." – Jessica, 23:24).
4. Momentum, Wellness, and Preparation Hacks
[24:10–28:09]
- Jessica credits getting back into regular workouts to better health, while Camilla says timing is her main struggle, preferring morning workouts.
- They commiserate on "hustle culture" and parental expectations, but stress the power of preparation, especially for morning routines.
"The most stressful time for parents is... 7:16am during the school...and I do feel like I found a workaround—set up breakfast the night before..." – Jessica, 25:26
- Camilla shares the chaos of her children remembering unfinished projects right before school and contemplates making earlier wake-ups her "lock in".
5. Social Media's Role in Goal-Setting
[28:16–29:56]
- Camilla discusses how her algorithm pushes wellness content, influencing her goal-making ("It leans into, like, these are the supplements you should be taking...").
- Jessica’s feed is a mix of dogs and self-help, prompting her to reflect on the difference between inspiration and overwhelm.
6. Emotional Growth: The “Fixer” Tendency
[29:56–32:26]
- Jessica confesses she tends to rush to fix problems, but is working on being a better listener—even getting “reports” from family that she’s improving.
"I've gotten a lot better at listening and not trying to fix it right away." – Jessica, 29:56
- Camilla points out the value of asking, “Do you want me to listen or help?” noting this as a possible “lock in” goal itself.
7. Radical Acceptance Explained
[38:41–49:15]
- Jessica defines radical acceptance as acknowledging unchangeable pain without adding extra suffering—citing both small (early call times) and big (relationships) examples.
"It transforms unavoidable pain into bearable and sometimes even meaningful... because you're not resisting the pain." – Jessica, 39:05
- Camilla asks how it applies to relationships. Jessica references “Let Them”—the concept of not trying to fix or change others, but setting boundaries and accepting what is.
"Radical acceptance is, they hurt your feelings. Now what are you going to do about it? You're not denying it." – Jessica, 41:53
- Camilla reflects on breakups, wishing she’d known radical acceptance in her 20s ("I wish I'd known this in my 20s when... there was so much sitting in it and in the suffering and the replaying...").
- Both agree radical acceptance is a discipline and could itself be a "lock in" goal for fall ("Maybe radical acceptance is a lock in." – Camilla, 47:07).
- Jessica uses LA traffic as a metaphor, noting that resisting the inevitable only increases suffering. They laugh about their own (sometimes unsuccessful) attempts to be zen in gridlock.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On friendship & red carpets:
"Did you geek out?"
"Oh, absolutely. I mean, now I'm like, where is my phone?...I'm wanting to FaceTime my kids from the red carpet."
– Camilla & Jessica, [05:13] -
On digital discipline:
"If you have your phone in your pocket, you're going to look at it...if you give a mouse a cookie. Okay. Downward spiral from there."
– Jessica, [21:25] -
On morning routine chaos:
"The most stressful time for parents is...7:16am during the school [year]...kids refusing breakfast, misplacing shoes, and then battling you to get them dressed."
– Jessica, [25:26] -
On radical acceptance & suffering:
"Suffering, the replaying of the pain, the resisting...that is the optional fall apart...it stays with me so much longer than facing it."
– Jessica, [44:23] -
On embracing 'Lock In':
"I know you, and I was gonna say those around you, but I don't really think it's about those around you. I think it's about you."
– Camilla, [32:02] -
The traffic metaphor:
"When you look around, the people who don't accept that they're stuck in that car...are losing their [minds] and suffering for no reason because the losing their [minds] isn't going to change the circumstance."
– Jessica, [48:08]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Back-to-school & work return: 03:17–08:42
- Ticketmaster concert wars: 09:00–11:46
- Exploring "Lock In" trend: 11:46–14:26, 18:49–23:49
- Wellness, mornings, and prep: 24:10–28:09
- Social media & goals: 28:16–29:56
- Listening vs fixing: 29:56–32:26
- Radical acceptance (deep dive): 38:41–49:15
Tone & Style
Conversational, self-deprecating, and supportive. The hosts frequently poke fun at themselves, each other, and the chaos of life as working moms and friends. They balance personal anecdotes, lighthearted riffs, and genuinely insightful moments—making their advice feel approachable and real.
Takeaways
- Locking in is about intentionally focusing on new habits—whatever matters most to you, not what social media or hustle culture prescribes.
- Fall offers a natural "fresh start," especially for parents or anyone in cyclical work.
- Radical acceptance is a vital skill for emotional resilience: acknowledge what you can't change, minimize extra suffering, and focus on what you can do next.
- It's okay to let go of the instinct to fix, both for yourself and others; often, listening and accepting is the best support you can give.
- Everyday chaos (like LA traffic, forgotten art projects, or missing shoes) is inevitable. Embracing it with humor and some prep goes a long way.
If you want the cozy, motivating vibe of chatting with your besties—peppered with practical advice and the comforting reminder that nobody has it all figured out—this episode is for you!