Call It: Secrets of the Season Premieres… everything you need to know about 9-1-1 Nashville and Grey’s

Summary

Call It What It Is: Secrets of the Season Premieres—Everything You Need to Know About 9-1-1 Nashville and Grey’s

Podcast: Call It What It Is (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington
Date: October 13, 2025
Episode: Secrets of the Season Premieres—Everything You Need to Know About 9-1-1 Nashville and Grey’s

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, real-life best friends and actresses Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington dive into the season premieres of two of TV’s biggest dramas: Grey’s Anatomy and 9-1-1 Nashville. Sharing exclusive behind-the-scenes stories, wardrobe mishaps, cast gossip, and first impressions hot off the premiere nights, they dish on cliffhangers, character secrets, and all the chaos—both onscreen and off. True to their BFF energy, expect lots of laughter, inside jokes, and heart-to-heart moments as they "open up the friendship circle" to listeners.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Recapping the Premiere Cliffhangers

• Grey’s Anatomy:

  • The podcast opens with both hosts still reeling from the season premiere’s dramatic events, especially regarding Link’s fate.
  • Jessica confirms Link survived the cliffhanger but is “not out of the woods,” emphasizing ongoing tension.
    • “He’s not, like, survived, like, walking around high fiving people. He’s in rough shape. But yes, Link survived.” —Jessica (02:49)
  • Discussion of on-set tech talk and medical realism, including heavy props and realistic trauma scenes.

• 9-1-1 Nashville:

  • Camilla describes her character’s bold entrance in a meticulously tailored white dress at a rodeo.
    • “That white dress was tailored within an inch of its life. I mean, we’re on a Ryan Murphy show, people. There is attention to details and fashion.” —Camilla (03:56)
  • Jessica recounts her pride in seeing her best friend in such an iconic moment and teases the fashion drama.

2. Character Rivalries, Social Media Shenanigans, and New Faces

• Arch Nemesis Alert: Jessica’s character is set up as an arch-rival to Leann Rimes’ Dixie in 9-1-1 Nashville, with early social media "rivalries" spilling over from set camaraderie.
• Social Media Clapping Back: The duo detail a hilarious social media “clap back” exchange instigated by Leann Rimes, where Jessica, with quick wit and help from producer Kyle, drafts a perfect retort using Taylor Swift lyrics.
  • “Within, like, 30 seconds. You just plucked [the comeback] out of your brain.” —Camilla (09:36)
• Off-Screen Friendships vs. On-Screen Feuds: While their characters are adversaries, both assure listeners their real-life friendship with Leann is solid: "In the fake life, Dixie and Blythe are definitely gonna go at it. But in real life, we adore each other." (11:25)

3. Behind-the-Scenes Stories & Set Life

• Filming Challenges:
  • Camilla reveals the chaos of shooting a major concert scene featuring Kane Brown amid treacherous weather and technical learning curves.
    • “Spoiler alerts. That...was quite challenging, if not treacherous to, as you can imagine, film...start in the sunlight, but then the rain’s coming, and then you’ve got the tornado imminently going to decimate the entire thing.” (13:30)
• Casting Surprises: The “Captain Smoke Show” role was cast at the very last minute, creating a Cinderella-like experience for the actor.
  • “He looked like someone had launched him out of a rocket. I don’t even think he actually knew where he was.” —Camilla (16:38)
  • His first scene: the stripping scene!
    • “He literally got off a plane, shirtless.” —Jessica (17:53)
    • “Bless him. He was so game and he just got up there and he did it.” —Camilla (18:06)

4. Juicy Character Secrets and Relationship Dynamics

• Blythe’s Backstory: Jessica dissects a seemingly throwaway line indicating her character Blythe’s rebellious or perhaps “free” past—hinting at possible romantic escapades during a separation.
  • “There was this time where they separated, and...there was some fun being had, and I mean sexually.” —Camilla (22:10)
  • "You're like, they took up pickleball. It wasn't a round of tennis or golf. It was sexual!" —Jessica & Camilla (23:02)
• Show’s Approach to Complicated Relationships: Both hosts reflect on how both betrayals and forgiveness are handled in a nuanced, “powerful” way for their characters.

5. Firefighter vs. Doctor: The ‘Hotness’ Debate

• Friendly banter about whether they find doctors or firefighters hotter, using their on-set partners as the bar:
  • “If Matt came home, like, in a white coat, I’m like, whatever, go change...But if he’s, like, coming through the door and, like, a firefight[er], I’m like, ‘hello, smoke show.’” —Jessica (29:04)

6. Taylor Swift Surprises and Premiere Antics

• ABC Social Takeover: Jessica shares a behind-the-scenes scramble for clearance to use Taylor Swift’s “22” for the Grey’s Anatomy 22nd season launch video:
  • “It was down to the wire...literally sending it to Taylor’s team and being like, can you watch this, can you approve this...At like 12:02, the papers were signed.” —Jessica (38:30)
• Taylor Swift’s ‘TS’ Gift Package: Jessica recounts the surreal experience of receiving a personalized package from Taylor Swift herself, including a heartfelt note, album, and custom sweatshirt.
  • “If you’re receiving this, it means that you are someone that is important to me.” (43:16)
• Music Favorites: The hosts gush about their favorite tracks from Taylor’s new album, with special mentions of "Life as a Showgirl" and "Ruin the Friendship."
• Dance Routines: Camilla admits failing the viral dance challenges but Jessica and her daughter have learned Taylor’s dance.

7. Teasers and Looking Ahead

• Future Storylines: Jessica hints that Jo’s upcoming arc on Grey’s Anatomy will “shock” people.
  • “What is a character storyline that will shock people this season? I think Joe’s.” —Jessica (48:01)
• Breakdown Pacts: They promise weekly breakdowns for both shows, and tease bringing on more cast for spicy discussions—especially Leann Rimes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Link’s Survival:

  “He’s not, like, survived, like, walking around high-fiving people. He’s in rough shape. But yes, Link survived.” —Jessica (02:49)

• On Wearing White to a Rodeo:

  “I thought it was a bold choice. I’m like, white to a rodeo, but that’s...But you’re bold.” —Jessica (05:00)
  “She is. She is being described as...she’s a bad bitch.” —Camilla (05:09)

• On Social Media Feuds:

  “Leanne called you out...and you sent it to me, and you’re like, what do I do back for this?” —Jessica & Camilla (09:36) “Within, like, 30 seconds. You just plucked [the comeback] out of your brain.” —Camilla (09:36)

• On the Firefighter 'Hotness' Factor:

  “If Matt came home, like, in a white coat, I’m like, whatever, go change...But if he’s, like, coming through the door and, like, a firefight[er], I’m like, ‘hello, smoke show.’” —Jessica (29:04)

• On the Taylor Swift Package:

  “If you’re receiving this, it means that you are someone who is important to me.” —Jessica, quoting Taylor’s note (43:16)
  “I would have gone rogue, I would have found a way to get that out into the light.” —Camilla, on leaking the music video (39:27)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Season Premiere Recap & Spoilers (Grey's/9-1-1 Nashville): 02:30–08:30
• Fashion, Character Rivalries, and Social Media Antics: 08:30–13:00
• Set Stories, New Cast, and Filming Challenges: 13:00–18:40
• Character Backstories, Relationship Drama: 21:49–26:35
• Filming Firefighter vs. Doctor, Questioning ‘Hotness’: 28:41–29:42
• Taylor Swift/ABC Premiere Music Video Drama: 37:41–39:45
• Opening Taylor’s Gift & Album Favorites: 40:44–46:17
• Upcoming Storyline Teasers: 47:37–49:25
• Plans for Future Episodes & More Cast Guests: 49:25–50:13

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Tone & Style

Breezy, playful, filled with mutual admiration and comic relief, Jessica and Camilla’s banter is warm and unfiltered—giving listeners the feeling of eavesdropping on two best friends with the inside scoop on TV’s favorite dramas.

Their openness about personal insecurities (Camilla sharing nerves over reprising Jo), genuine friendship moments, and willingness to address pop culture crossovers (hello, Taylor Swift fandom!) make for a fun, relatable, and informative listen.

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Takeaway

For diehard Grey’s or 9-1-1 Nashville fans, this podcast is a must-listen for premiere breakdowns, juicy behind-the-scenes tea, and BFF vibes. Come for the spoilers, stay for the Taylor Swift unboxing, and savor the promise of even deeper dives and special guest gossip all season long.

Transcript

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[Camille Ludington]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

Call it what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Ludington.

[Camille Ludington]

An iHeartRadio podcast.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And welcome to another episode of Call it what It Is.

[Camille Ludington]

And in this episode, you will not just hear from us. You also have an option to watch us on YouTube. So let's just get into it. Who lived in your Grey's Anatomy cliffhanger where a lot of people could die?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, massive, massive spoiler alert. The premieres were last night. We're, like, fresh off of watching it, and it's the morning after, and my husband, Link survived. He survived, however, and we're gonna get into this, guys. He's not out of the woods. He's not, like, survived, like, walking around high fiving people. He's. He's in rough shape. But, yes, Link survived.

[Camille Ludington]

I was worried about him too. I know that thing looked heavy. That was on his chest. I knew that if they tried to take it off, it was going to blee because, you know, I put on gray. It was a loss of a lot of.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You don't remove anything? No, of course.

[Camille Ludington]

No, no, no, no, no. Then you got so many bleeders.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Jessica Capshaw.

[Camille Ludington]

What I do?

[Jessica Capshaw]

911 Nashville aired last night. Can I tell you? And I sent you this picture so you can tell, and this is absolutely true. I took a picture of the screen. When you walked out in that white outfit, I screamed. I shot a picture of the screen and I text you, and I was like, oh, my God. I just screamed like, that's my best friend. To Matt, who was like a foot away from. It's on. It's spicy.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, it is very spicy. There is so much attention that gets put into the outfits that. That white dress was tailored within an inch of its life. I mean, we're on a Ryan Murphy show, people. There is attention to details and fashion. The most detailed and nipped and tucked white dress there was. There was a contemplation of every single pair of sunglasses that could be used. It was hair. It was this. And then we shot that maybe one of the first days. It was hot as blazes, and it was a real rodeo that was in town. So we were actually. This is the funniest part. I'm in this outfit in the aforementioned nip, tucked and detailed, you know, white.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You know, I thought it was like, hello, yeah, I'm the queen. You know, it was regal.

[Camille Ludington]

It was regal.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It was regal.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay. So to play off that, that regal outfit was at the rodeo, and we were basically borrowing the rodeo for, you know, the. The. The production value. And so everybody else was just kind of having some, like, tortilla chips and cheese dip while I was in that outfit.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I did think. I'll be honest, I thought it was a bold choice. I'm like, white to a rodeo, but that's. But you're bold. She is.

[Camille Ludington]

She is.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She is.

[Camille Ludington]

She is being described as. I've heard it. I've heard it and seen it multiple times, and it's. It's a new term to me. She's a bad. Evidently, being a bad bitch is not a pejorative. There's nothing negative about being bad. If you're a bad.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No, she's a total bad.

[Camille Ludington]

She's very confident. This lady. This woman has got it. She's got it on lockdown. She walked into that rodeo, and she was like, I'm here. They're like, but we're watching the rodeo. They're like. She's like, no, no, no.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She's like, you're watching me. I am the rodeo. Can we also talk about. I just want to dive in. Can we just dive straight in? Okay, so I ran home. I was filming last night. I ran home. I literally flew through the door, took a shower, jumped on the couch with Matt, and I was like, hey, it's on. And then we started watching already. Can we talk about Leann Rimes?

[Camille Ludington]

Yes, yes, yes. Well, do you want to talk about Leanne, or do you want to talk about Dixie?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I want to talk about Dixie.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay, we can talk about Dixie.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, first off, I love that, like, episode one, they've introduced this, like, probably arch nemesis is how I'm seeing it.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Heck, yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You know what's funny about watching the show is the other day, I was watching a movie from, like, the 90s, like, a kid's movie from the 90s, and someone was smoking in it, and I was like, you don't see that on TV anymore. It's not allowed. And Leanne was smoking in the kitchen.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, well, that's gonna. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gonna. You'll. That'll be a reason for that. Yeah. Okay.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So many things. So many.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes, yes, yes. And yes. It's funny because I, you know, as a mother of four and raising kids, and you want to, like, give your. You want to be a good role model, and you want to give your kids an idea of what healthy competition is and, you know, not have life be a zero sum game or this, like, cutthroat, you know, whatever. Whatever. Something different came over me.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah. I was like, that's not this show.

[Camille Ludington]

No, that's not this show. Something different came over me. And when I got to set and started digging into playing this character, and then Leanne and I started doing scenes, and also I started doing scenes with Chris and Michael, and, like, the affection for both of them, like, you know, started growing as characters, and you're like, you know, putting all this stuff together because it's the beginning and it's exciting, and every scene is a new thing. My sense of competition got wacky, wild, big. And all of a sudden, I was finding I was having conversations. I Was having to tell Jessica to calm down, take a laugh, because I was like, I. I will cr. Yes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, you know what? Okay, so we. We took over some social media last night. There was a little. There was a little social media rivalry that started last night with you and Leanne.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Leanne called you out. Talk about that.

[Camille Ludington]

That you were a part of and that you helped with.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You are.

[Camille Ludington]

Because you're the brainchild. So I worked yesterday. We were actually. Every single one of us was in the scene yesterday. So we all got to work together. And of course, just talking about the premiere happening, and now we actually know each other. You know, we're four months into it, so in the beginning, we didn't know each all. And now we know each other, and looking back on that work and just. It's just wild. So we. And Leanne was there, and we have a scene where. I mean, I'm not sure. Well, no, it is actually a little bit of a roller coaster because there are some redeeming things about Dixie. Very few.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm sure there are very few. She came out the gate, like, puffing on that cigarette. I know. We gotta do what we gotta do.

[Camille Ludington]

And out for me, by the way. Out for me. I mean, let it go, Dixie. Let it go. 25 years later, like, come on.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Like, really?

[Camille Ludington]

It's a long time to be holding. Holding that candle.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Can I tell you a secret?

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I don't want her to let it go. I want it to get so dirty. I want you back in white, but mud slinging.

[Camille Ludington]

Well, and there we are in our real lives, you know, in our. In our own personalities. But we do take our character seriously, and I think that Chris completely enjoys it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, but can we talk about the social last night? Cause you guys were working together. But she obviously. Sidebar.

[Camille Ludington]

So we said goodbye. And then I truly went straight from work to the airport so I could be home for the. For the series premiere.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And she was in her stories, and she got a little Dixie, and she was like, I hear Jessica Capshaw or Blythe, whatever, is doing a Q and A. And I think I should really be doing the Q and A, because I'll get straight to I'm a straight shooter or something like that. And you sent it to me, and you're like, I need to. What was it you said? You're like.

[Camille Ludington]

Because you're actually the bad in my life. You're actually the one that knows how to be the baddest of. So I was like, camilla, what's the best? Like, what Do I do? What do I do? Back for this? And she's like, literally, by the way, guys, it's like she has a computer in her head. Maybe there's more folds in her brain. Maybe there's just room for more things there. But within, like, 30 seconds. You just plucked out of your brain. What did you pluck out?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I plucked out Actually romantic. The Larry. The lyrics from that. And I thought, like, this is Taylor Swift's new song.

[Camille Ludington]

Actually romantic. Which is based on what?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Which is based. Well, I don't know what it.

[Camille Ludington]

Well, everyone's saying that it's based on a little bit of a feudy feud. A feud with a certain other singer. Yeah. Allegedly energy is what I think you were picking up on a similar. An alleged. Or maybe make believe. Who knows? But it's more fun for people to believe it actually happened. Right? So whatever. So there's this alleged, but maybe real. I guess that's what alleged means. There's this alleged, you know, similarly energetic relationship in, In. In these song lyrics.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And so you're like.

[Camille Ludington]

Something like that. So then we pulled Kyle into it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Kyle. You guys don't know. Like, we both. He helps us with all of it. If you guys think that we actually edit stuff ourselves, we should never leave the house. No, Kyle is incredible.

[Camille Ludington]

He's the best. He's the best. He put together a little smack back. Yes, A little smack back. And then I truly filmed my side of it in the, in the airport.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You didn't look great.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. And then she clapped back again.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She did?

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. Oh, you didn't see that? No, I didn't see the clap back.

[Jessica Capshaw]

To the clap back.

[Camille Ludington]

So I lip sync. Well, you'll have to go look, but it's a, It's a little, you know, moment where I just give her a little, you know, I, I, I introduce a little adjustment.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah. And then she adjusted.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. And then she. Right back. So Dixie and Blythe are gonna get into it. Leanne and Jessica are good to go. Guys, don't worry about us. We adore each other. We side text, we side dm. It's all good. In the, in the real life.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, yeah. No, of course.

[Camille Ludington]

In the fake life, Dixie, Sexy and Blythe are definitely gonna go at it. They're just. They're just completely different. And so it's. It's been super fun. I mean, some of the that I say to her, and some of the.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She says to me, I can't wait. Okay, so I watched one last thing.

[Camille Ludington]

Not a spoiler, but you Know when you get really serious and you know that you're in the middle of, like, really, like, telling someone what, like, what the. What's what. How your neck sort of starts to go.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, you get the cobra.

[Camille Ludington]

You, like, get the little, like, cobra. I have to stop because that's like, I'm. I'm cobrain all the time. Every time there's a Leanne scene, all of a sudden my neck is on, like, a different kind of swivel. It's like, not Jessica's neck. It's like, what. I mean, my neck can do everything.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It goes all around the Blythe cobra. Well, they did. Okay, so you did not have a scene together this week, but they did tease at the end, you going up to her and going, stay away from my husband.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, stay away from my husband.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Can't wait for next week's.

[Camille Ludington]

Voice is a little lower, too, weirdly enough. She gets stay away from.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay. Things I loved about it. Can I just talk about it? Because you didn't tell me all the things that happened. And so I was watching it like, everybody else didn't get all the spoilers. Yeah, I was not expecting that girl on, like, the bachelorette party, like, with the Petal Tavern, and I was like, oh, my God, something's really wrong with her. And then she let out a fart. You guys. It cracked me up. It really, like, shocked me. That was the most shocking part of the episode for me. What is the budget for 91 1, by the way? Is it $5 trillion?

[Camille Ludington]

Everything looks so good. It looks so good. Well, we start with Kane Brown.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I know you opened with this massive concert. You're not in the scene, but I wondered if you, like, did a little, like, go down there and watch it filmed.

[Camille Ludington]

No, as a matter of fact, that scene, again, spoiler alerts. That, by all reports, was quite challenging, if not treacherous to, as you can imagine, film, because, you know, they start in the sunlight, but then the rain's coming, and then you've got the tornado, you know, imminently going to, you know, decimate the entire thing. And it was really tough for them to shoot. And we were also at the beginning of the show, so we're learning about the. You know, they're learning out the wardrobe and the turnouts and things getting wet and things staying wet and how quick it takes to dry. And there's just a lot of technical stuff behind the. Behind the scenes that they were filming, figuring out, because it was the beginning of the show. But it looks amazing, and I love our 113 squad. I mean, how hot are they? Every single one.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So my. What's weird is that I got sent this picture. You had a premiere party? I got to sent a picture from my sister in law who is amazing. She lives in Nashville and it's. She goes, hi, this is my new best friend and it's you guys together. Because she was at the premiere. She was invited to the premiere. Yeah. And then she text me later and she was like, these are the hottest group of firefighters like ever.

[Camille Ludington]

I know, I know.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I already have a. I already have a favorite firefighter.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, already.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I loved Roxy. Roxy.

[Camille Ludington]

Roxy. Wani plays Roxy and she plays her group.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She's fantastic. Well, but then Taylor's singing at the beginning.

[Camille Ludington]

The musicality right off the bat. And her voice, she's a tried and true Broadway act, musical theater actress. Oh, that's why she was in Hadestown right before this. I mean, she's incredible. Incredible. And just. I mean, I know it's, you know, it's not supposed to matter to us, but they just are so beautiful. So beautiful and so strong and just. I mean, they were. I got the goosebumps a lot. I got that goosebumps a lot watching it a lot.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It was so fun.

[Camille Ludington]

And Chris, it, like everything is just so real. And. And Michael, I mean, everyone just. I brought it. Brought it. But yes. So to go back to the Petal Tavern moment, it was one of my favorites. Honestly, you can imagine that we get our scripts and before you can actually envision what's gonna happen. And it's just on the page. Some of it is pretty wild. And you're thinking, how is this. How is this gonna translate?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, I can't imagine your scripts.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. And so when that moment happened, I was actually so grateful because I was like, I love this show even more because the show is in on the joke.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Like, it's.

[Camille Ludington]

It's willing to go to every place. Like, it's willing to thrill you with these life or death circumstances and this impending tornado. And then it's willing to entertain you with this Kane Brown concert. And then it's willing to make you laugh because you have drunk bachelorettes that look like crazy people and they're farting and burping but almost dying and then getting saved by a stripper. So it's like, really? But yes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Wasn't his name Captain Smoke Show? Captain Smoke Show.

[Camille Ludington]

Captain Smoke show was cast for this show, literally like a day before we started.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes. Can you tell us a story? Because I was. I remembered it as I was watching it. You said you guys were having a hard time finding that role.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes, yes. And we were actually there and we were in pre production and sets were being built and costumes and everything else. And you know, you try not to get worried, but you know when you start and there's no blue beddings cast, there's no smoke show. Okay, so. And truly, he got cast very last minute. Like sort of the crazy like a Cinderella story. Like they found casting found him and then he went through, you know, the first reads and then I think he got flown out to la and then he read out there and then he, I mean, and then, and then truly I think, I do believe he got off a plane back from la, got the part and then was at the cast dinner. We had a dinner for, you know, to sort of like kick off the start of filming. And I met him there that night and I swear to you, he looked like someone had like launched him out of a rocket. I don't even think he actually knew where he was. I don't. I'm not sure that he knew what was happening.

[Jessica Capshaw]

That's the way these things are though. I mean, we have guest stars flying in. I'm like, well, where are you from? They're like, New York. I came in an hour ago. Yeah. I'm like, oh, well, welcome to the set.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, but his first scene was the stripping scene.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No, no, he. That's not fair, you guys. You need like, you know what though? That's, that's how, that's how smoke show he is. He's like, whatever. Get off a plane shirtless.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Hello.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. No, he literally got sent into hair and makeup. I mean, you know, there's some, there's attention to grooming when you're playing a stripper. So there was a lot of grooming and then there was choreography that he had to learn. And then bless. Bless him. That's what they say in the south. Bless him. He was so game and he just got up there and he did it. And I'm watching it last night, I was like, he didn't just do it, he did it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

He was so good.

[Camille Ludington]

He was so good.

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[Ed Helms]

Hey everyone, Ed Helms here.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And hi, I'm Kal Penn and we're.

[Camille Ludington]

The hosts of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen CL classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Announcer]

You know what?

[Camille Ludington]

I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You got a little Colin Firth.

[Ed Helms]

Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennett here. Listen to Irsay the Audible and I Heart Audio Book Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Jessica Capshaw]

Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[Liberty Mutual Announcer]

Cut the camera. They see us.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

There was a little flyaway comment that Blythe made kind of under her breath.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh yeah?

[Jessica Capshaw]

You could have missed it. But I didn't miss it. She said I had my fun too. Or something like that back in the day. And I was like, oh, boy. Okay, can you elaborate?

[Camille Ludington]

Yes, I can, because it might be my. It might be the thing that I cling to the most when I think about her.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, give us the juice.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm gonna give you the juice. It was always the intention. But then all of a sudden, when you put. When you put an actor in a part and then you have a showrunner and, like, Rashad, who's just so open to all the conversations and all the things and all the feelings, this sort of amazing thing can happen. So that line was always written in there, and the story always has been that. And what you find out in this first episode is that dawn and Blythe are completely in lock. Sync, lockstep, partnership and love. However, there was this time where they separated, and when they did, there were some. There was some fun being had, and I mean sexually. And so we didn't think it was.

[Jessica Capshaw]

We didn't think it was badminton, Jess.

[Camille Ludington]

We got that.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You're like, they took up pickleball.

[Camille Ludington]

It wasn't a round of tennis or golf. It was sexual.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So do you think that Blythe had, like, a.

[Camille Ludington]

Era? Yes, she did. Oh, yes. They separated, and they thought it was over. And Don, you know, clearly got it. Fell and fell into Lee. Fell into Dixie's.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Fell into Dixie's. Dixie.

[Camille Ludington]

Fill in the blank.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes, fell into Dixie's. Dixie.

[Camille Ludington]

And then there was a child when her son comes to her. When Bly's son comes to her, like, what's going on? Dad just told me that I have a brother. And how could you guys not have told me? Which is a valid question. How could you not have told me?

[Jessica Capshaw]

A lot of valid points for him. He got hired very quickly at that firehouse, and. And he had to be o. Quickly.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes, yes, all of it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So I would be rageful.

[Camille Ludington]

And. And yet Michael plays it so well that you see everything happening on his face, and. And. And. And you're on his side. So he comes to. He. He goes to dad for some answers. He gets a couple of them, but then, you know, as one does, you go. You go to Mom. And so he comes to mom and says, like, what in the actual happened? And how do you know? Well, he really comes to say, dad betrayed us. And she says, no, he would. He would never do that. And then he's like, what do you mean? And when she says, I had my fun, too. It was it. I think it's a really important part of her because this is not a woman that I mean. And listen, every Story is valid, but this. It's not her story. She didn't get cheated on and then learn how to accept the betrayal or learn how to accept this, you know, moment, and then. And then move on. She. It was a clean. It was like, if there's a way to have a clean. I don't know what you'd call it. I mean, none of it's clean. Also, by the way, it all gets very, very dirty.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You were on the break.

[Camille Ludington]

You were on the break. Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You were on a break.

[Camille Ludington]

Well, I guess they each had something to forgive each other for is the point. Right. Like, it was clean in that way. So they each. And then they. And then they rebuild from there. But I think it was a very important part of who I see her to be and who I am playing her to be, which is that there is a lot of power in her. In her column.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love it.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. And the horses. And that was Michael and I seen by the stables.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Was that the very first scene, that walk and talk by the stables?

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. So beautiful. Nashville, Tennessee.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Wait, hang on. I have to know, because there's, like, this aerial shot of, like, all these huge houses, and I was, like, picking out my house. I was like, that one looks good.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. That's in Franklin. Oh, Franklin. Where there's just grass for days and everything else.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

And this most beautiful, beautiful stables. Yes. Because Blythe is in ra. Is in racehorses. She's in the business of racehorses and going to auction and picking the best ones for the next season of horse racing. And then that day, which, again, was also really hot, and I'm wearing a lot of clothing. Yeah, you are wool, interestingly enough. Wool clothing.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Like a Ralph Lauren chic.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes, it was. It is. That was our very first day of filming ever, Michael and I.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You know what's really funny is that's a long scene. But I also told Matt. I turned to Matt, I said, so far, that's my favorite scene in the episode.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, well, that's because, you know, because you're my bestie.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No, I know, I know, but it was like. It was just like a moment of, like. I don't know, there was something about the connection between you guys as actors because you can't create that sort of chemistry that's already that, like, loving chemistry. And then when you drop that line, it was like, ooh, little juicy Easter egg.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. There's going to be more. There's going to be more. Yeah. So we started with that. And the second day was. Was the boys coming Back from the rodeo and. And all that.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I have a question.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You are not. And Matt said this to me. He was like, she is so lucky she's not a firefighter.

[Camille Ludington]

They hear it every day.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah. They are out in the. The mud and all of that stuff, talking to them. Is there any part of the actors where they're already like, dear God, help me. Like, when you're at dinner, you're a couple cocktails in, they're like, this is. This is gonna be tough.

[Camille Ludington]

It. Yes, it is tough. It is tough. It's hard.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It looks really hard.

[Camille Ludington]

Here is heavy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The.

[Camille Ludington]

The. I mean, the action sequences are so involved and intricate, and they. They. They absolutely need everyone's full attention. We have incredible stunt people on set every time that we're there doing them. So it's. It's. It's incredibly.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's.

[Camille Ludington]

It's tough. It's really tough. And the. It's a lot. I mean, even just the. I've only put them on for play or for social media. And the. The turnout, like, what they wear is heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy. But I just got the goosebumps so many times, and I just. I love the. I really do. It sounds a little cheesy. It really feels like they're heroes, every single one of them, as they march in like little ants. When you see them from far away or in uniform or when they're up close, there's this, like, goosebumpy, like they're the heroes coming in and they're going to save. They're going to do everything that they can to save whoever they can. And there's just something so bold and aspirational and awesome about that.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, this way. Hang on. I have a controversial question for you now.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, yeah, go ahead.

[Jessica Capshaw]

What's hotter to you?

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, God.

[Jessica Capshaw]

A doctor in the white coat or a firefighter?

[Camille Ludington]

I think they appeal to different parts of me.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Of you.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Interesting. Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm just trying to figure out what a doctor. And I think a doctor and a firefighter are very different types.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I know, but, like, aesthetically, if Matt came home, like, he's coming through the door like, it's. And he's in a white coat, I'm like, whatever, go change. That's gross. You've been in surgery. But if he's, like, coming through the door and, like, a firefight, I'm like, hello, smoke show.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay. Okay, I see this. So, by the way, that seems like maybe a great segue into you. You might need to come be on my show to be around all the incredibly, you know, hot firefighters. And I think now we need to go back to my love and affection for all those incredible white coats at Grace Sloan.

[Jessica Capshaw]

We premiered last night.

[Camille Ludington]

You premiered last night.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So I was.

[Camille Ludington]

What's it like to premiere with such a cliffhanger?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Pretty bonkers. I had a lot of people asking me online and.

[Camille Ludington]

And.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And I'll an here on. Call it what it is. Whether I knew that Link was going to survive and whether I knew that Monica was going to die. And the truth is, is that at some point in the summer, I'd had a conversation with my showrunner. And I said to her, the only thing I want to know is, is Jo gonna be raising 500 children by herself? Is she widowed, like, 48 hours after this wedding? And they were like, no, he's going to survive, but it's gonna be rough. So then I was very happy. But I heard rumors or schmoomers that someone was going to die, which is why I had asked. And sometimes these rumors are schmooz. You know, they end up being something and sometimes.

[Announcer]

No.

[Camille Ludington]

But if anyone's gonna find out if a rumor is a schmoomer or if it's a real rumor or if it's a trumor. I'm not. I made that one up. It's true. It's you. Well, you're gonna find out. You sniff it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I did not know that Monica was going to die until I got the script. And I was flicking through and I was like, oh, no one's go to die. Because it looked like she was fine.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes, it did. Spoiler alert. Looked like she was fine the entire episode.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So smart. And then I was watching. Can I tell you, Adelaide? I. I watched. We had a little, like, lunchtime. I was on set yesterday. We had a lunchtime, like, viewing.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Adelaide, watch it. We watched it. Addie was next to me, and I said. I turned to her and I said, you are incredible. In this episode, her and Monica, those scenes when she's like, you're too late when they walk in was amazing. But can I tell you, the very first scene I filmed when I was back, and this happens to me every season, is this scene where I first seen that you see her, where she comes in and she talks to Richard and she says, do you know where Link is? And then she's sitting with Richard the whole time. And then the phone call happens. That all happened in one day of shooting, right? And I. Before they yelled, action. I was standing for the first shot. I was standing Backstage. And I was like, do I know how to play Joe Wilson? Like, I was like. It had felt like a year to me. And I'm like. I got scared. I was like, do I. Like, do I know how to be her again? Like, what does she feel like? Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

1. You've got the belly.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I got the belly. Yeah, I got the belly. And I was in the same clothes from last season. I felt, like, a little disconnected from. It had been so long. And I'd even watched the episode before. And then when I stepped out, and then I had that first line with Jim Pickens, who plays Richard. There's something about that man that just, like, exudes like you're a Grace Love Memorial.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Yes. Welcome. Welcome.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And it's like, instantly, I was like, okay, I got it still. But I literally had, like. I was very nervous that day. I've been playing.

[Camille Ludington]

This is the scene that you first. When you first come in.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes. I had, like, first season.

[Camille Ludington]

I thought that played very well. Yeah, well.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, well, maybe it did play well. But I was like. I literally had a moment where I was like, do I remember this? I'm not feeling her in my body. And it wasn't until he spoke to me that I was like, oh, I. Okay, she's back. But I really. I was like, oh, my God. Maybe I'm gonna like this. Am I a terrible actor?

[Camille Ludington]

No, but. But it worked because you're coming in not knowing anything, and you don't know. You don't know what's happened. And everybody. The whole episode is trying to keep information about who's in peril and who's not. And then all these. And the way that Gray's does have all these different side stories of all the things happening. Okay, so how did you get to shoot in order or.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No, absolutely not.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's never in order, and I did not. So I didn't see any of that link footage. Right. Like, I'd never seen that before. And so, like, I found that very shocking, actually, to see it, because by the time I saw Chris in real life filming, he'd been patched up. Like, I didn't even see this part of him ever. So watching it last night, I was like, hey, that's a lot of blood.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, that's a lot of blood for my husband. No, I know. It's a lot of blood. A lot of blood. Was Linda Klein, one of the extras, on the floor?

[Jessica Capshaw]

She was. Linda Klein was on the floor. And it's so funny. People have been watching the show for so long. They knew that that was Linda on the floor. She was like in part of you guys. This is one of our producers who now plays, you know, she plays nurse Linda on the show. I think she's spoken like two lines on the show, maybe more, but like the entire time. And she's been there since like probably day one.

[Camille Ludington]

She's end up with like Boki status.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I think that she's Bokie status.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, Boki the scrub nurse from like from the very beginning, season one.

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[Ed Helms]

Hey everyone, Ed Helms here.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And hi, I'm Cal Penn and we're.

[Camille Ludington]

The hosts of Irsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with with Jenny Garth, host of the I Heart Podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Announcer]

You know what?

[Camille Ludington]

I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You got a little Colin Firth.

[Ed Helms]

Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad I'm not Mr. Bennett here. Listen to earsay the Audible and iHeart audiobook club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Jessica Capshaw]

Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[Liberty Mutual Announcer]

Cut the camera. They see us.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty.

[Hill's Pet Nutrition Announcer]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

Very underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company affiliates. Excludes Massachusetts.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Can I tell you what happened yesterday, though, on my social media?

[Camille Ludington]

Huh?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay. So abc, every year they will call somebody, email somebody and say, hey, do you want to take over the premiere? We'd love for you to take over the premiere. So they asked me to take over the premiere. We have this idea with abc, like, let's make this whole, like, thing to the. Let's make this whole music video to the song 22 because it's our 22nd season. Let's post it as part of my takeover, which you saw, thank God, last night.

[Camille Ludington]

I was gonna say, when can I jump in and talk about how I feel like it should? If it's possible for it to win an Emmy, I'd like for it to win an Emmy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Thank you. I agree.

[Camille Ludington]

It's amazing.

[Jessica Capshaw]

What we ran into yesterday that we didn't think of though, is that we needed approval from Taylor to post it.

[Camille Ludington]

Really?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes. Yes, we did.

[Camille Ludington]

It's not just like on Instagram where you can just add the song.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No, because it's technically going to. I was thinking in terms of it going to my account, which would have been fine, but if it goes to ABC's account, then things are right. It's very different. Right. So it was down to the wire of not being able to post that and them literally sending it to Taylor's team and being like, can you watch this? Can you approve this universal music like it was? And literally we're supposed to post at 12. And I think at like 12:02, the papers were signed for us to post at it. So that's my little behind the scenes of posting that because I was like, it's never going to see the light of day. Like, it's not going to happen in time. Like, or maybe they'll say no. But I was like. I was like, this has to be seen by.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, my God. If that had. If that had not been able to come out into the world, I would have. I Don't know what I would have done.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It was so fun, too.

[Camille Ludington]

I would have gone rogue. I would have found a way to get that out into the light.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You would have leaked it.

[Camille Ludington]

I would have stolen. Stolen.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I would have a lawsuit on my hands.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, whatever. Whatever. We know. We know the creator. She's kind. She's kind. Speaking of her, really quickly, just a little sidebar. Should we. Sidebar?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, is there anything that you would like to tell us that happened?

[Camille Ludington]

Well, you know, Taylor's album came out.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm aware, of course.

[Camille Ludington]

You know, all. All of my girls knew the lyrics, right? I mean, I honestly think they just, like, downloaded them into their brain. I'm not even sure. Like, they only listened to it once, and they're like, they know every single lyric. And we had a little road trip over the weekend, so we were in the car a lot, so I definitely got a lot of it in my head. And she was top of mind. Anyways, we come home, we driven to my brother's wedding and drive back, and we go by where the boxes come, and I see a cardboard box, and. And it says, from Nashville, Tennessee. And I was like, to Jessica. And I was like, hmm. I don't. I didn't order anything from Nashville. What is this? This is so strange. And then I looked at where it was from, and it said, TS I'm like, I did not order anything from TS I don't know what this is. I was actually annoyed a little bit. A little irritated. Like, ugh. With this box, I'm probably gonna have thing. Whatever, Got it by accident. So I bring it in, and then.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I go to get it out of.

[Camille Ludington]

The car, and all the synapses are firing, and things are starting to make sense in my brain. It's like the Beautiful Mind.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

And I'm like, T S T S. Taylor. Taylor Swift. Nashville, Tennessee. Taylor. Taylor Swift. Did Taylor Swift send me a box?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I cannot.

[Camille Ludington]

And of course, I'm not envisioning anyone that helps Taylor Swift in her life send me a box. I'm envisioning her going to the UPS store that I go, yeah. You know, on 12 south in Nashville, Tennessee, and sending me this box. She's done that? Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She's like, got the tape out.

[Camille Ludington]

The tape gun, the tape.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She's waited in line, obviously.

[Hill's Pet Nutrition Announcer]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

And there's a lot of college students out at that one, so it's really. Probably took her a lot of time.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. She probably had to talk to people. It was a thing. Anyways, I say to my girls, I Think we have something to open together. And then as soon as we got out the scissors, I was like. I started doubting myself. Doubt crept in, and I was like, who do I think I am? This is not a box from Taylor Swift in Nashville, Tennessee, and my girls are going to be opening up. Like, I don't even know. I don't even know what's in this box.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Like a pair of shoes. You didn't realize it's going to be.

[Camille Ludington]

A pair of shoes from Nashville.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Tennis shoes. Tennis shoe.

[Camille Ludington]

And it's just one some nighttime shopping binge I've gone on.

[Liberty Mutual Announcer]

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[Camille Ludington]

So doubt creeps in. I don't let it take hold. The girls open it up. I see the color of the wrapping of the. Of the. You know, the. The tissue paper, and I'm like, nope, I know what this is.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Camille Ludington]

Hang on.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Was the tissue paper orange or that? Teal orange. Oh, yeah. You know.

[Camille Ludington]

So they open it up, and there is the most glorious note from Taylor.

[Jessica Capshaw]

What did it say?

[Camille Ludington]

Say? It said, honestly, I. I obviously have it. I might need to frame it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Is it not already in a frame? Are you kidding? What have you been doing with your life?

[Camille Ludington]

I've had a couple things to do this week. Anyways, it was a very beautiful note, and it was announcing the arrival of this album. And then underneath, it was the record.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Boring. Hang on. No, boring. Take it back. I zoomed.

[Camille Ludington]

I don't remember exactly what the notes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I zoomed in on the note.

[Camille Ludington]

Note.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And the note literally said, oh.

[Camille Ludington]

Because I took a video of the girls opening it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah. So I. Yes. So she sent me the video. So I zoomed in because I'm nosy.

[Camille Ludington]

I told you, if you want something found out, she'll get it found out.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And it said, if you're receiving this, it means that you are someone that is important to me.

[Camille Ludington]

I will just stop there. We've said enough.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And so I think that you're. I. Yes. You can say what else is in there, but I think this means the next package you receive as an invite to the wedding. Like, you're going to open it like in Bridesmaids, and like the butterflies come out.

[Announcer]

Yes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, my God. Jessica.

[Camille Ludington]

Literally, my RSVP would be double yes. If you could. If you could, I would just make copies of the invitation so I could keep sending yeses. Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, my God. I just gave myself chills.

[Camille Ludington]

You did. You gave me a little sweat.

[Jessica Capshaw]

What was in the package? Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

In the package is the album and then her beautiful note, and then this super Cute sweatshirt that I decided to wear today. I feel like, for our inaugural YouTube.

[Jessica Capshaw]

What does it say?

[Camille Ludington]

Hear us and see us. It says the life of a showgirl.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it does.

[Camille Ludington]

And then it says TS on the sleeve.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, love it.

[Camille Ludington]

And it's really. You know when you get a new sweatshirt and they're super soft inside, I don't ever want to wash it. It's just soft inside.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You're not gonna wash it. You're not taking it off. That's.

[Camille Ludington]

Big warm hug from Taylor. Big warm hug from Taylor. And you know what? I love the album. I love of every single song I'm starting to get. I'm starting to feel a little self conscious because of how much I listen to it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Sure. Have you learned the dance?

[Camille Ludington]

I know you know me. I'm not so great at the dances.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, my God. I've learned the dance. Me and Me and Hades Hayden in the kitchen.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, you already know it. I know Ophelia. That one.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, I know it. Don't worry about it. It's not a big deal.

[Camille Ludington]

I also like. But listen, I like a lot of the tracks that aren't People aren't talking about. I think, like, right away, I love. We're in a relationship. Friendship. Ruin a friendship. Ruin a friendship.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Ruin the friendship. Yeah, yeah. That's what it's called.

[Camille Ludington]

Ruin the friendship.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love Jessica.

[Camille Ludington]

I love Cancelled. I love Canceled. I love Wood. I feel weird saying that, but I. I'm saying, yeah, I do.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I think she loves Wood too.

[Camille Ludington]

I love that song Wood. I love that song called Wood.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love Travis Kelce talking about that on New Heights. By the way, his face talking about wood on New Heights is like my favorite thing. So.

[Camille Ludington]

I love life as a showgirl. I could listen to that on repeat. Not on.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Did you feel like on our premiere night that that was kind of the vibe life of a showgirl?

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. Yes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I wasn't in, like, any glam, but I felt glammy.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. And I like the empowerment of it, which is like there's. There's a maybe an old idea that there's something that you kind of like, use and abuse and like, then. Then the showgirl gets discarded. And as I interpret it with Taylor and Sabrina and just sort of this moment that I think we're all stepping into of empowerment and resilience and grit is like, no, we're showgirls and the show must what, go on. That's right.

[Jessica Capshaw]

That is. And I tell you, when I hear Sabrina's voice on that, it's so like, it's just incredible. It brings me back though, to when I went to go see Taylor in New Orleans and I was on the plane. Like we were boarding the plane. I was boarding with a bunch of swifties. I had seen her the same night as me. And they were all getting notifications on their phone in real time that Sabrina had just showed up on stage the night that we were flying back.

[Camille Ludington]

Right.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Like, we had just seen it. And so everyone was like, we miss Sabrina. Like, they're all taking their seats.

[Camille Ludington]

Like, no, that would be a lot. That would feel like a lot loss. A little mini live would be.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I know, but you know what? The next tour she's got to come on for.

[Camille Ludington]

Show girl. Yes. Oh, for sure.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Now you're coming on. And now we're going. And we're going to the wedding and I'm your date, so you can tell Taylor. Cuz guess what? Guess who didn't get a box.

[Camille Ludington]

Me.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I. When you got your box. I went out to my little letter.

[Camille Ludington]

Box for a box.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, I was like, there's. I was like, matt, I've got to. Excuse me for a second. There's a box outside for me.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Nothing.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Tumbleweeds.

[Camille Ludington]

Nothing. You got nothing? Nothing. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so wait, do you want to just really? Because we kind of. We let Taylor, you know, really, I mean, as she should, but we really did let her hone in on the Gray's. The Grays talk.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I think that, like, here's what I'm going to say. I. Everyone. The premiere was incredible. I thought everyone was excellent. But I think that I was thinking about a character storyline that will. A little teaser for going into this season. What is a character storyline that will shock people this season? I think Joe's.

[Camille Ludington]

I wasn't expecting that.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I know, I know. And I really thought hard about it. But what I'm filming right now. Ugh.

[Camille Ludington]

Are the twins gonna be your faces? See, we can see you now. They can see you now. And so now I know this is bad.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Actually, this is bad because now you can see every expression is gonna give more away if you watch.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, I. I almost feel like I shouldn't ask any more questions because I don't want to.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

I don't want to know.

[Jessica Capshaw]

As the season goes on, you guys, we are going to be breaking down 91 1. We are going to be breaking down Gray's Naughty. We have to have Leanne on come.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, my gosh. In a. In an. In an. In a nanosecond. She's so much fun, so talented. So I love working with her. We love coming up with these ways to be sort of, like, spicy nasty to each other at the same time, that we keep it very human and. And. And. And real. And, I mean, who doesn't love, you know, a modern cat fight, right, where there's, like, two fully actualized women coming into a space where they can argue and they can try and one up each other and, you know, it's. It's. It's really good. I have to say, the scenes that Leanne's in, even if we're just in the same room, I feel like a certain kind of, like, clench. Yeah, I. I clench the tush just a little tighter.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, A little tish. Clench. We gotta tell her that. I don't know. We gotta ask her. Is her tush clenching? I don't know. I don't.

[Camille Ludington]

We. She'll let us know. She'll let us know.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Don't ask us. Save her for.

[Camille Ludington]

The wardrobe will be like. You know, normally you take off your. If you're wearing high heels in a scene, which Blythe always is, you'll take off your high heels in between when you can just put on a pair of, you know, like, slippers or whatever. And I've noticed that when Dixie and Blythe are working, Blythe keeps her eye heels on all the time. Constant clench. Constant high heel. She's ready. She's got to be ready.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Those aren't coming off. You gotta rip them off your body.

[Camille Ludington]

That's exactly right. Well, if she leaves them somewhere where she might take them, Dixie might swipe them.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So they swiped the husband. She swiped the husband.

[Camille Ludington]

Doesn't even just say, I don't want.

[Jessica Capshaw]

To make you mad. I think this is a perfect spot. Before you get too crunchy, I'm too happy.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm too happy. Happy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Let's call it.

[Camille Ludington]

I feel like this is a good time.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Let's call it the end of the episode.

[Camille Ludington]

Hey, can we talk about Plan B for a second? What exactly is it?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay. Plan B is emergency contraception you take after unprotected sex. Think of it as backup birth control. It works by temporarily delaying ovulation to help prevent pregnancy before it starts.

[Camille Ludington]

And it's available right off the shelf? Yep.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's at all major retailers in all 50 US states. No prescription ID or age requirement.

[Camille Ludington]

Ah. Together, we've got this.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Follow Plan B on Insta at Plan B. One step. Use as directed.

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[Camille Ludington]

Running the vacuum.

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[Jessica Capshaw]

An I Heart podcast.