Call It Short & Sweet: Fall Fashion, Suede Sneakers, & Duck Nails?

Summary

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Call It What It Is – Short & Sweet: Fall Fashion, Suede Sneakers, & Duck Nails?

Podcast: Call It What It Is
Hosts: Jessica Capshaw & Camilla Luddington
Date: September 10, 2025
Episode Theme:
This “Short & Sweet” episode is a lively chat between real-life best friends Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington diving into Fall 2025’s fashion and beauty trends. The duo brings their signature playful, honest, and opinionated banter to what’s hot (and what’s definitely not) for the season—from knee-high boots and burgundy sweaters, to the weird world of “duck nails.” Their camaraderie turns a trend recap into a fun friendship hangout, topped off with practical style confessions and witty commentary.

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Fall Fashion Trends: The Season’s Big Vibes

[03:18 – 10:00]

1. Boho’s Back (Again)

• Bohemian Styles: Camilla excitedly reports boho’s return, referencing “romantic lace dresses and the suede boots, and the like, the 70s vibe. The Sienna Miller with Jude Law situation.” (Camilla, [04:21])
• Lace, Silks & Oversized Sweaters: Jessica notes the trend toward silk/lace dresses topped with a “huge baggy sweater” and knee-high boots.
• Knee-High vs. Thigh-High: Jessica loves thigh-highs but admits, “The knee highs are having a huge moment.” (Jessica, [04:51])
• Memorable moment: Camilla jokes, “Thigh highs make me feel a little puss in boots.” (Camilla, [04:58])
  Jessica riffs back: “I love a thigh high…You’ve seen me in them” ([05:13])

2. Town & Country Prep

• Earthy Plaids, Big Skirts, Outerwear: Jessica names the “earthy plaid, full skirts, luxurious out thick outerwear” as very Ralph Lauren, to which Camilla quips, “Just try and keep up with me. I’m a high flyer in this category.” ([05:41])
• Modern Academia: Loafers with socks, preppy-but-not-too-preppy: “It’s like I went to college, but I didn’t. Yeah, but that’s fine.” (Jessica, [07:18]–[07:21])

3. “Purple Rain” & Other Seasonal Colors

• Color Focus: Deep purple (“Purple Rain”), caramel, chocolate brown, and, notably, “why isn’t burgundy on the list?”—a passionate moment shared by both.
• Quote: “That’s all I want to wear. Burgundy and a chocolate brown.” (Jessica, [18:59])

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Footwear Forecast: Sneakers & Beyond

[08:47 – 10:53]

• Brown Suede Sneakers: Jessica tries to hype brown suede sneakers, but Camilla is not a fan, “Definitely not wearing a brown suede sneaker.” (Camilla, [09:41])
• Other Shoe Trends: Boat shoes (with charms!) are met with enthusiasm—especially for Camilla’s hypothetical “multiple houses in Nantucket” rebrand ([10:04]–[10:19]).
• Animal Prints & Silver Sneakers: Neither are sold—“I’m not doing that.” (Jessica, [09:56])
• Mary Janes: An amusing exchange about whether anyone is really wearing Mary Jane sneakers.

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Nails: Trends, “Duck Nails,” & Practical Limits

[11:00 – 18:38]

• Classic vs. Trendy: Camilla is strictly “French manicure girl,” while Jessica would do chocolate brown if work (Grey’s Anatomy) allowed.
• Colors for Fall:
  • “Caramel latte nails… orangey brown. Really pretty.” (Jessica, [11:21])
  • “Chocolate brown is right on here. I do love a chocolate brown.” ([11:39])
  • “Forest tones for fall… not a green. I’m not gonna do a deep green in fall.” (Jessica & Camilla, [11:51])
• Nail Shapes: Both are firmly against “duck nails”—flat, fan-shaped tips.
  • Jessica: “Duck nails looks absurd to me…Google it right now.” ([18:10])
• Other Trends:
  • Metallic accents are in (like a gold French tip stripe), but both veto “short nails.”
  • Camilla jokes about barely being able to keep up with one nail style, not multiple.
• Manicure Commitment:
  • Quote: “Manicure is a little bit of a commitment…It’s a situation.” (Jessica, [12:11])

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Accessories & Layering: Bags, Belts, Sweaters

[22:00 – 24:43]

• XL Totes:
  • Jessica: “I love an extra large tote. I love it. Let’s whisper about it.” ([22:00])
  • Camilla brings practical concerns: “If you give me a lot of bag space, I will fill it…when it’s a tote, traditionally, it has a shorter handle. I can’t put it over my shoulder.” ([22:24])
• Chunky Belts:
  • Neither are fans—declare chunky belts (the aughts style over dresses) unflattering for their height/body types.
  • Jessica: “That’s when I feel like a pirate, actually. That’s when…Yeah, I feel…” ([24:43])
  • Camilla: “Throw on your thigh high boots and we’re at a pirate party.” ([24:47])

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Style Confessions, Rebrands & Laughs

[06:22 – 21:57]

• Camilla’s “rebrand” as a chic, horse-owning, sweater-loving, Nantucket-dwelling woman is an ongoing laugh.
  • “She’s coming out, and I feel it this fall.” (Jessica, [06:44])
• Jessica’s failed experiment with DIY Bermuda shorts: “I looked so tragic…It looked like I’d given up actually on life.” ([20:42])
• Both reference the realities of climate (Nashville = still summer, NY = cooler) & not all trends working for everyone.
• They repeatedly encourage listeners: “Tell us when you see these trends out in the wild. Hit us on our socials and let us know what you’re seeing.” ([25:21])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Thigh High Dilemma:
  • “Thigh highs make me feel a little puss in boots.” (Camilla, [04:58])
• Brutal Honesty:
  • “I’m not wearing those.” (Camilla, about slouchy ankle boots, [08:10])
• Brown Suede Sneakers:
  • “No…Definitely not wearing a brown suede sneaker.” (Camilla, [09:41])
• Fall Realness:
  • “That’s all I want to wear. Burgundy and a chocolate brown.” (Jessica, [18:59])
• Accessory Warnings:
  • “If you give me a lot of bag space, I will fill it.” (Camilla, [22:24])
• Bermuda Shorts Trouble:
  • “I looked so tragic…I looked like a mom in Texas in the 90s. It did not look chic at all. It looked like I’d given up actually, on life.” (Jessica, [20:42])

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Section Timestamps

• [03:18] – Start of fashion trends chat
• [04:21] – Boho & boots discussion
• [05:38] – Town & Country, academia
• [07:32] – Fall colors
• [08:47] – Sneaker/bag trends
• [10:53] – Nails segment begins
• [17:12] – Metallic nails & accessories
• [18:06] – “Duck nails” moment
• [18:38] – Burgundy enthusiasm
• [20:42] – Jessica’s Bermuda shorts story
• [22:00] – Bag & tote talk
• [23:54] – Chunky belt debate
• [25:21] – Wrap-up of fashion trends

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Final Takeaways and Tone

Jessica and Camilla’s chemistry and candor make Fall fashion fun, not intimidating. They encourage listeners to adapt trends to their real lives (and bodies), aren’t afraid to roast the unwearable (duck nails!), and continually punctuate the conversation with relatable self-deprecation and inside jokes. Their mantra: Wear what works for you, ignore what doesn’t, and don’t take any of it too seriously.

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Transcript

[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

Call it what it is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Ludington and iHeartRadio podcast. Well hello, hello, hello, hello Call it crew. And welcome to another episode of Short and Sweet.

[Camille Ludington]

Hey, Camilla.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

What are you gonna wear this fall?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I don't know. Should we check out the fall fashion trend? What's funny is we did this for summer, and we found out the color for the summer was butter yellow. According.

[Camille Ludington]

Never worn. Never worn. More butter yellow in my life.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Everywhere. I couldn't stop seeing. It nails everything. I was like, oh, my God. It really. It really. Sometimes you feel like these things are a trend on, like, you know, in these magazines, and they're not really. I saw it everywhere. I wore some yellow this summer to an event. I was. I like it. So now here we are for fall.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. So what's in.

[Jessica Capshaw]

All right.

[Camille Ludington]

By the way, I got a sneak peek at this, and it's all my favorites. I just wanted to say that fall is going to be my season.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay. So I'm hearing that boho is back. And you know how I feel about a Sienna Miller circus. Sienna and Jude Law moment.

[Jessica Capshaw]

But is boho is back in what way, though?

[Camille Ludington]

I think it's like the romantic lace dresses and the suede.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

Boots. And the, like, the 70s vibe. The Sienna Miller with Jude Law.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes.

[Camille Ludington]

Situation.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes. I. What I am seeing and what I have seen. Sorry. I'm opening up. I'm opening up glamour as we speak. But what I have seen is that there's a lot of silk or lace dresses that you throw a huge baggy sweater over, and I'm digging that look with some knee high boots.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

The knee highs are in. I love a thigh high, and I will never give up a thigh high. But the knee highs are having a huge moment.

[Camille Ludington]

The thigh highs make me feel a little puss in boots.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Me too. Listen, I. Oh, the thigh highs.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. I can go knee high if it goes thigh high. I'm a cartoon character or I'm a pirate.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No, I do. I love a thigh high. I do. I love a thigh high. Really?

[Camille Ludington]

You're wearing boots up to your thigh.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You've seen me in them. I wore them.

[Camille Ludington]

No, I know. I have seen them on you.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's like you're saying it like you've never seen me in them. And we literally spent a day wearing them with you. All right, moving on.

[Camille Ludington]

Maybe I thought you looked a little puss in boots.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You're gonna love this because this is. This is you. A little town and country.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, this is where I'm gonna soar.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes.

[Camille Ludington]

Just try and Keep up with me. I'm a high flyer in this category.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Saying earthy plaid, full skirts, luxurious out thick outerwear. I can't Ralph Lauren.

[Camille Ludington]

I mean, Ralph Lauren do.

[Jessica Capshaw]

In doan.

[Camille Ludington]

I mean, all of it. All of it. I'm here for it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm here. I am here for that, too. I'm. I'm very much here for that, too.

[Camille Ludington]

Because it's also a little.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's like preppy. Yes, but preppy.

[Camille Ludington]

Like my generation preppy. Not preppy like whatever the kids are saying is preppy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No, no, like.

[Camille Ludington]

Like popped collars preppy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

And country, you know? Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

A little varsity. A little like that varsity vibe. Yes. Yeah. It's funny. Cause I turned him out the other day, and I was like, I think I'm gonna. What is it called when. Like a pop star rebrand. Like a rebrand or.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Little reboot. Little re. Pussing boots.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah. I was like I said. And he was not impressed. He couldn't have cared less.

[Camille Ludington]

He probably didn't know what you were talking about.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I. He did. Because I went into great detail of what the new Camila will look like. And I got to say, she looks great. It hasn't started yet, but she looks really chic. She looks a trillion dollars. She owns a horse. She rides. It's like, she looks amazing. She just hasn't come out yet. And then I put on my crop top of my. My shredded jeans, but she's coming out, and I feel it this fall.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay, well, it's. It's not just preppy country life, it's preppy academia. Right. It's like if you've got some loafers with some socks.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's like I went to college.

[Camille Ludington]

It's like. It's like you went to college.

[Jessica Capshaw]

But I didn't. Yeah, but that's fine.

[Camille Ludington]

It's like when I was in college and I. This is what I wore. Yeah. And I was dressing like someone who went to college in my mind.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay. One of my favorite colors is. Is in. Gonna be really in a deep purple.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I don't know if it's in my color wheelhouse, but I love. They're calling it a purple. They're calling it Purple Rain.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Spelled a little differently.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh. Will it be quite, like butter yellow, or will it just be. Will it be a little more quiet?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I don't. I don't know how quiet it's going to be. I'm not sure. Now, something that's in that I am not excited about. And you won't see Me in. Caught me wearing it in, like, a week. Are the slouchy sort of ankle boots?

[Camille Ludington]

No, I'm not wearing those.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm not wearing those.

[Camille Ludington]

Do you know what else I'm not wearing?

[Jessica Capshaw]

What else?

[Camille Ludington]

I'm not gonna wear an oversized peplum blazer.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Definitely not.

[Camille Ludington]

Nor am I gonna wear a knee length Bermuda short.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, also, did you see the zebra stripes? Listen, I can do. I'm not gonna do that. I can do. I can do a. Like a leopard. I can do leopard. I can't do a zebra. I don't think I've ever worn a zebra stripe in my life.

[Camille Ludington]

No, I think I had a bikini once.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, maybe I could do a bikini. I could maybe do a bikini. Okay, this is gonna be. This is gonna be your jam right here.

[Camille Ludington]

Jess, tell me.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Fall sneakers. Jessica Capshole loves a sneaker, you guys.

[Camille Ludington]

I do.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And Mary Janes.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm not wearing a Mary Jane sneaker.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You're not a Mary Jane?

[Camille Ludington]

No, no, and 100% no. A Mary Janes. Have you met me?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Not a Mary Jane sneaker. A Mary Jane shoe. Dude, I literally think I was with.

[Camille Ludington]

You and you tried on, like, Mary Jane sneakers.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, not sneakers and Mary Jane. Like, with a heel. I've seen you try on a Mary Jane with a heel.

[Camille Ludington]

The fact that you think I'm gonna wear a Mary Jane sneaker.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I didn't say sneaker. I went ahead and I just saw the Mary Jane. Do you love how we're arguing with each other right now? You guys, this is what it is.

[Camille Ludington]

What? It is. Hitting me with a color that I didn't like.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, how do you feel about a brown suede sneaker?

[Camille Ludington]

No.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Wow. That's not what I was expecting. Really?

[Camille Ludington]

Definitely not wearing a brown spade sneaker. I'm wearing brown suede sneaker.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Sure. That's what Birdie says is happening.

[Camille Ludington]

I don't know who you are.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Suede is going to be in.

[Camille Ludington]

I like suede, but it's hard to keep up. Gets dirty, and it is.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It is. Okay. Silver and animal print sneakers. No, I'm not doing that.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay, I'll tell you what I'm wearing. I'm going to take one off and show it to you right now.

[Jessica Capshaw]

There you go. A boat shoe. Boat shoes are in. Oh. Oh, oh. Okay. Okay, you're going to like this. Part of my rebrand, Jess, is I own multiple houses in Nantucket.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh. Obviously. All next to Elyn Hildebrand.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Absolutely. Absolutely. I am. And there's been a murder in town.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. And you're going to get to the.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Bottom of it in my boat shoes, obviously.

[Camille Ludington]

Wait. One of my boat shoes has a charm on it. That's what makes it extra special.

[Jessica Capshaw]

How do you feel about the bag charms? I'm feeling them.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm feeling them, too. This one. Yeah. Has a cute little leather like I like or something. Yeah. I'm into it. And we need to talk about our nails. I'm either boho or I'm preppy. That's just. You'll. That's where you'll find me. Those are the colors. Those are the colors.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I do a chunky knit and a short skirt. Yeah. Capshaw.

[Camille Ludington]

Love it. Love it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love it. Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay. Nails. I'm not.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You're have to.

[Camille Ludington]

You're gonna have to do them all, because I can only wear one nail on this show. So I'm just.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

French manicure girl, you tell me what you're.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, really? You think I can wear a bunch of nails on Grey's Anatomy? You know better.

[Camille Ludington]

I know I do.

[Jessica Capshaw]

That was wrong. But if I could.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay. If I could, I would wear chocolate brown nails.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, so these are the nails that everyone's. I'm going to tell you the colors. Are you guys ready for this? Caramel latte nails. They're like an orangey brown. Really pretty polka dots. I'm not into that.

[Camille Ludington]

Nope.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Neutral auras. I don't know what that means. Really.

[Camille Ludington]

That means either.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay. It kind of the. The picture, you guys just kind of looks like a very, very light brown. Chocolate brown is right on here. I do love a chocolate brown. Forest tones for fall. I don't think so.

[Camille Ludington]

I don't think so.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Not a green. I'm not gonna do a deep green and fall.

[Camille Ludington]

No.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

Not on my nails.

[Jessica Capshaw]

No.

[Camille Ludington]

No. Because I think that a manicure is a little bit of a commitment, you know, I mean, it takes effort to get to the nail salon. And whether you're getting a regular manicure or you're getting a jaw manicure or whatever, like, it's. It's like. You know what?

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's a. It's a situation.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, it is.

[Jessica Capshaw]

That's why I use Kiss Nails. This is not an advocate's nails. Kiss Nails.

[Camille Ludington]

How you. That you travel with.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes, I do, and they should be paying me money.

[Camille Ludington]

Well, let's call them.

[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Camille Ludington]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

Metallic accents. Okay, so the picture it shows is like maybe like you do a French. You could do a French nail with a little stripe of like a gold. I could do that.

[Camille Ludington]

I've done that.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I know I've seen that on you. Yeah, Shorter nails are back in.

[Camille Ludington]

Whatever.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I don't think so.

[Camille Ludington]

I like medium to long.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Me too. You guys. My hands look real stubby.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. Me too.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, oh, oh. Also, trendy Camilla. I mean, new rebrand Camilla is going to wear a lot of rings.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, like a ring on every finger.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, it's kind of like a little Rachel Zoe 2005. Remember when the Zo Project came out?

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Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Long boho dresses and all. A lot of bangles. But I'm not going to wear a ton of bangles. But I'm going to wear all the rings. That's what I've decided.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

This one I'm not getting on board with. It's called duck nails.

[Camille Ludington]

No.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Have you seen them?

[Camille Ludington]

Ridiculous.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So guys, duck nails looks absurd to me. And they're where your nails like, are a. They're. Well, they're. They're like almonds square, but they have this, like, kind of.

[Camille Ludington]

They're thicker at the.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, yeah. They go out.

[Camille Ludington]

No.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Am I explaining this well, guys, Google it right now. Also, I think you know what's not on this list, and I'm kind of angry about it. Burgundy.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh. Oh, my gosh. I was. You just. We just synced telepathically.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Why the. Is some burgundy nails on here, but.

[Camille Ludington]

Not just burgundy nails.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Burgundy everything fall.

[Camille Ludington]

Everything.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Burgundy hair, dude. Whatever. Burgundy.

[Camille Ludington]

You need a line there. But, yeah, no, burgundy. All the burgundy. Bring me the burgundy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

That's all I want to wear. Burgundy and a chocolate brown.

[Annabe Sofa Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

And like a big sweater. A big yummy sweater. And I'm telling you, I mean, we talk about them all the time, but, I mean, I really. I really do wear them all the time, which is this big, quince yummy cashmere sweaters. They're the best.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, they are. Yeah. One thing that I tried recently that is. Is it's gonna flow into summer, too, is like, you know, this, like, Bermuda short length.

[Camille Ludington]

Did you say Bermuda?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Bermuda.

[Camille Ludington]

Bermuda.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, sorry. I'm not. You guys. It's really. Jessica's making me do this podcast really late tonight, and that's. And that's why I said.

[Camille Ludington]

I love that she's saying it's late when it's two hours later for me. Bermuda.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Sorry. I haven't been. I haven't visited Bermuda recently, and I forgot how it was Sad. Okay. Bermuda shorts. There's all the girls, and they're cuter and younger than me. They're all wearing, like, the denim. Denim Bermuda shorts. Right? Like, they're really cute with, like, the little, like, Birkenstocks. And I was like, dude, I'm gonna. I'm gonna cut my jeans into this length. Cause I couldn't be bothered to go, like, go buy them.

[Camille Ludington]

Right, Right.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm gonna cut these shorts, and I'm gonna wear it out. So I wore it out shopping with Hayden the other day. I had a white T shirt. I had these little jean Bermuda short things, and I had my Birkenstocks. I caught a peek of myself in the mirror. Just. I looked so tragic.

[Camille Ludington]

I knew you were gonna say tragic.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I lived in Texas in the 90s, and those 90s. I look skit of like, a mom in Texas in the 90s. I did. It did not look chic at all. It looked like I'd given up actually, on life. And I see. I see one of these trends, Bermuda shorts. Being expanded.

[Camille Ludington]

You know what? You can't say it. You shouldn't wear it. That's just what we. It comes down to the point is.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Is I'm not wearing those shorts.

[Camille Ludington]

There's an R and bermuda, and you can't wear the shorts.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm going to wear my millennial cutoffs with my butt cheeks hanging out.

[Camille Ludington]

Sure.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So I even said to Matt, I was like, I can never wear this out again. And he was like, no, you look cute. And I'm like, don't know. I know. But I was like, not for the win. This could lead to a breakup. It was really tragic.

[Camille Ludington]

Well, you know what? I'm going to take some of this to heart, and I'm going to weave it into. Well, in Nashville. We're still hot right now. We're not in fall.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, I know that's what's so frustrating about.

[Camille Ludington]

But in New York. In New York, we're probably gonna be. It felt chillier there. It felt a little. I felt a chill in the air.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay. All right. Okay. Before we go.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I have two questions for you. Oh, extra large totes are gonna be in this fall. Big enough to put your laptop in. Yay or nay? I love an extra large tote. I love it. Let's whisper about it. I said, sometimes we have to whisper. I really love it. I love an extra large tote.

[Camille Ludington]

Here's where me and an extra large tote part ways.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay.

[Camille Ludington]

If you give me a lot of bag space, I will fill it.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

And when it's a tote, traditionally, it has a shorter handle.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes.

[Camille Ludington]

I can't put it over my shoulder. And then I have a very heavy situation.

[Jessica Capshaw]

This is true.

[Camille Ludington]

That's handheld.

[Jessica Capshaw]

All good points.

[Camille Ludington]

And so I just have to be careful. Camilla is what I'm saying.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you. Well, you could. You could throw out your back.

[Camille Ludington]

But listen, along with my. And this is not a trend, guys. This is just who I am. Welcome to me. I love. I mean, I. I have totes. I have. I'm looking at three of them, and they're just right in front of me right now in my life. I got. I got a lot of them. Totes.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I think that's good. Listen, you do a lot of traveling, and travel equals tote.

[Camille Ludington]

Because you can just throw it in there.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You just throw it in there. Yeah, exactly. Right. Lastly, before you go.

[Camille Ludington]

Go.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm a little on the fence about this one. Chunky belts are gonna come back in. They're coming back in to me. I have a Little like, ugh. From the, from the aughts. When we threw a. You know, we would put on these dresses, you guys, that were like sheets, and then you'd wrap a chunky belt around your waist. It reminds me of the Little Mermaid. When she comes out of the ocean, she puts the sheet on her and then she wraps the thing, the rope around.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, so in or out chunky belt?

[Camille Ludington]

Well, okay. I think, as with anything that is a trend, you have to see if it works for you. So my feeling is I can't do a chunky belt. It's not good for just.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's not good. No, no, it's not good for me.

[Camille Ludington]

Doesn't work with her anatomy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

We're both 5 5. I feel like. I feel like a 5 5. I don't know if a chunky belt goes with a 5 5.

[Camille Ludington]

No, no. I mean, well, I don't. I mean, listen, hey, you could be a 5:5, and your proportions could be conducive to a chunky belt wearing situation. Mine are not. I'm a little. No, I got a little less waist and more leg. So look at it that way.

[Annabe Sofa Advertiser]

Right?

[Camille Ludington]

Like you get.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Exactly.

[Camille Ludington]

And you don't get something else, but when you don't have a ton of waist, a chunky belt is a good option.

[Jessica Capshaw]

See, that's when I feel like a pirate, actually. That's. That's when. Yeah, I feel.

[Camille Ludington]

Throw on your thigh high boots and we're at a pirate party.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, my God.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

All right, you guys, this is what you're. You heard it here first. We think possibly.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, or I mean, like maybe for the second or third time, but we're cementing these. False.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Exactly. We're cementing it and we're sharing it and we're gonna. I, I really. It's so funny. I really did think that it was Cut. I'm gonna be honest. I thought it was kind of when we were reading in the summer, I'm like, this is, you know, this is gonna be the trends that we see, like on the carpet or something, but not out in the world.

[Camille Ludington]

Love it. Love it. All right, tell us when you see these trends out in the wild. Hit us on our socials and let us know what you're seeing. Yep.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Let's call it the end of the episode.

[Camille Ludington]

Hey, can we talk about plan B for a second? What exactly is it?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Okay, Plan B is emergency contraception you take after unprotected sex. Think of it as backup birth control. It works by temporarily delaying ovulation to help prevent pregnancy before it starts.

[Camille Ludington]

And it's available right off the shelf.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yep. It's at all major retailers in all 50 US states. No prescription ID or age requirement.

[Camille Ludington]

Ah, together we've got this.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Follow Plan B on Insta at Plan B One step Use as directed.

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Okay, this is going to be so good. So picture this. 12 up and coming music artists like seriously talented people about to hit the stage for the performance of their lives. And it's all going down at the iconic iHeartradio theater for next up live music finals on September 26th. JoJo on the radio and EJ from 102.7 Kiss FM are hosting and the judges an all star panel of total music powerhouses. Watch it all unfold live on TikTok on September 26th from 7 to 9pm Pacific Time only on the official TikTok handle at TikTokLive. Underscore us again. That's @TikTokLiveUS. This is an iHeart podcast.