Call It Short & Sweet: Shades of Summer

Summary

Call It What It Is: Episode Summary – "Short & Sweet: Shades of Summer"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Call It What It Is
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Episode: Short & Sweet: Shades of Summer
• Release Date: April 25, 2025

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Introduction In this vibrant episode of Call It What It Is, hosts Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Ludington delve into the latest summer fashion trends, inspired by British Vogue and personal anecdotes. The duo offers insightful commentary on seasonal colors, styling tips, and shares their admiration for fashion icon Sienna Miller. This summary encapsulates their engaging conversation, complete with notable quotes and timestamps to highlight key moments.

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Summer Fashion Trends The episode begins with Jessica and Camilla discussing the anticipation of summer trends, even before the season arrives.

• Early Shopping vs. Seasonal Timing:
  • Jessica Capshaw [02:25]: “I like to shop for summer before it's even summer.”
  • Camille Ludington [03:10]: “I stave off that impulse because I like to have enough money to actually shop in summer.”

They explore the pros and cons of shopping ahead of time, highlighting the risk of seasonal items going on sale prematurely.

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British Vogue’s Summer Color Palette Drawing inspiration from British Vogue, Jessica and Camilla break down the five key colors set to dominate summer 2025.

1. Butter Yellow

   • Camille Ludington [04:04]: “Color number one is butter yellow. I'm totally on board. I love butter yellow.”
   • Jessica Capshaw [04:13]: “Butter yellow is the key color for spring 2025 and will continue well into August.”

   They discuss how butter yellow serves as a creamy neutral, perfect for summer wardrobes.

2. Chocolate Brown

   • Camille Ludington [04:49]: “Color number two is chocolate brown. I'm confused. Why am I wearing chocolate brown in the summer?”
   • Jessica Capshaw [04:56]: “I absolutely love chocolate brown in the summer. I would do a brown pair of jorts with a cute white tee and some gold jewelry.”

   The hosts express their affection for chocolate brown, despite its unconventional presence in summer palettes.

3. Powder Pink

   • Camille Ludington [05:29]: “Color number three, powder pink, is a surprise. We’ve been seeing softer, more muted pinks.”
   • Jessica Capshaw [05:41]: “The pink is very muted, almost white with a whisper.”

   They appreciate the subtlety of powder pink, contrasting it with the previously dominant vibrant pinks.

4. Tangerine

   • Jessica Capshaw [06:14]: “It says for those who like to stick to cocktail hues as soon as summer arrives. Perhaps this zesty tangerine and clementine resembling a rum punch or Aperol spritz will make it into your beach-bound suitcase.”
   • Camille Ludington [07:03]: “I live over summer. I do like a tangerine or an orangey red pedicure.”

   Discussing tangerine, they highlight its vibrant and zesty appeal, perfect for summer festivities.

5. Icy Blue

   • Camille Ludington [07:18]: “Color number five is icy blue. I love icy blue. It’s perfect for highlighting blue eyes without overpowering them.”
   • Jessica Capshaw [07:43]: “I love a long almond shape for icy blue nails.”

   Icy blue is celebrated for its versatility and ability to complement various skin tones and eye colors.

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Nail Color Trends: Butter Yellow Transitioning to beauty trends, the hosts focus on the popularity of butter yellow nails for summer.

• Personal Nail Preferences:
  • Jessica Capshaw [12:36]: “If I'm going a color like butter yellow, I gotta do a short kind of squarish nail. My go-to is a long almond shape with a tip.”
  • Camille Ludington [13:52]: “French manicure with butter yellow could add a fresh twist, though longer nails can trap sunscreen and hide snacks.”

They discuss practical styling tips, such as opting for nail extensions to accommodate intricate designs and maintain practicality during summer activities.

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Fashion Icons and Personal Anecdotes: Sienna Miller A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Sienna Miller, whom Jessica and Camilla admire as a fashion inspiration.

• Admiration for Sienna Miller:

  • Jessica Capshaw [15:28]: “Sienna Miller was my little summer icon. She effortlessly combined chic styles with her unique flair.”
  • Camille Ludington [17:16]: “I had pictures of Sienna Miller in my closet as outfit inspo. She was so cool and always wore new styles with her own spin.”

• Personal Stories:

  • Camille Ludington [18:38]: “I saw Sienna Miller and her boyfriend walking their pram on Madison Avenue. It instantly proved the Upper East Side’s cool factor.”
  • Jessica Capshaw [17:08]: “Once Sienna started becoming the fashion staple she is, everyone sent her everything because she makes anything look good.”

The hosts share their experiences and admiration for Miller’s ability to influence fashion trends effortlessly.

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Closing Thoughts As the episode wraps up, Jessica and Camilla reaffirm their enthusiasm for the upcoming summer trends and the timeless influence of style icons like Sienna Miller.

• Camille Ludington [19:34]: “Butter yellow is going to be a standout. I might even sport some this summer!”
• Jessica Capshaw [19:46]: “Let’s call it the end of the episode.”

They encourage listeners to embrace the new color trends and experiment with their summer styles, ensuring a stylish and vibrant season ahead.

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Conclusion This episode of Call It What It Is offers a comprehensive overview of the summer 2025 fashion landscape, blending expert trend analysis with personal insights. Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Ludington create an engaging dialogue that not only informs but also inspires listeners to explore and enjoy their summer wardrobes fully.

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For those who missed the episode, be sure to tune in for more fashion tips, friendly banter, and exclusive insights into the lives of Jessica and Camilla.

Transcript

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[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Camille Ludington]

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[Jessica Capshaw]

Hello, Call it crew and welcome to another episode of Short and Sweet.

[Camille Ludington]

So short and so Sweet. We're starting off talking about trends for the summer. Well, is it something. Ed. Is it too early to be discussing this?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I don't think it's summer yet. But this is. This is about, like, hey, when you're. This is. This is the wardrobe we need to.

[Camille Ludington]

Be thinking turning it over.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah. Because I like to shop for summer before it's even summer.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, I have to. I've learned my lesson. I stave off that impulse because I like to have enough money to actually shop in summer.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, yeah, but then here's the thing. I feel like as soon as you shop in summer, then what happens is, is that you wait, you shop in summer, and then it's winter clothes, it's fall clothes.

[Camille Ludington]

I was gonna say that. Or it's on sale. Yeah, it's already on sale.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, the smell is good, too.

[Camille Ludington]

Today is a beautiful day here. It does feel kind of warm.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Today is actually so crappy in Los Angeles, but I'm thinking about yellow, so we did a little research. Well, actually, I went to Vogue. That's where I went.

[Camille Ludington]

You went to British Vogue because you started there.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I went to British Vogue. I wonder. You know what? That's interesting, because it is British Vogue that I, like, looked at. I wonder if the trends don't translate here, or maybe you'll just look very chic here in the States. If you're listening.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay, so British Vogue did a roundup of how we can get into it and how we can get prepared. And they. Honestly, I'm really just. Seeing colors is the first step.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, they said that.

[Camille Ludington]

Understanding.

[Jessica Capshaw]

So they said, like, the. They said that there are five main colors for summer. So the first one is. Yes. Butter yellow.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm totally on board. I love butter yellow.

[Jessica Capshaw]

They said we have already declared butter yellow as the key color for spring 2025 and will continue well into August. Positioned as.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay, I'm not trying to make fun, but well into August. Yeah, that's the end of summer.

[Jessica Capshaw]

See the kids back in school in August. So it's like I start to actually feel a little fall in August.

[Camille Ludington]

What are you talking about? It's hotter than the face of the sun in Los Angeles in August. But it's hot.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's super hot in October. Positioned as a creamy neutral, this pale yellow ranges from light lure pack to more golden varieties.

[Camille Ludington]

Color number two is chocolate brown. I'm confused. Why am I wearing chocolate brown in the summer? That. That doesn't sound good to me.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I absolutely love chocolate brown. In the summer.

[Camille Ludington]

In the summer.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yes, I do.

[Camille Ludington]

Okay.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love brown.

[Camille Ludington]

Like, what A chocolate brown pair of jorts.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I would do a brown pair of jorts. I would do a brown jorts with a little cute white tee and some gold jewelry. Hello. Hell, yeah, I would. Okay, well, see, I had my color palette done. I had my color, and my season has a bunch of color. Okay. I'm a soft autumn, and so this chocolate brown is in Jessica Capshaw. She's, like, laughing at my color palette, you guys.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, you're a soft autumn.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I'm a soft autumn chocolate brown. No, chocolate brown is in my color palette. Oh, for God's sake. Move on. You read number three, powder pink.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm surprised by this one because I really feel like we went. We went Barbie so hard that I.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Didn'T think it was kind of like.

[Camille Ludington]

For a long time, like, yeah, we're not seeing any pink. We're not gonna see pink for a while. But we are. We're gonna see powder pink. However, it does say instead of barbecues or punchy neons, we have a steadily. We've steadily been seeing softer, more muted pinks. Actually, you know what? My nails are a muted pink.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, I mean, I. When I was looking at these pictures, the pink is very muted, you guys. It's a very. It's almost is white.

[Camille Ludington]

You can't hear it talking at all.

[Jessica Capshaw]

It's basically white. Yeah, it's. It's white with like a little. With a whisper. Okay, Number four, Tangerine. I wore a tangerine suit to Grey's Anatomy event a couple of years ago, and I loved it. Did I look a little bit like dumb and dumber? Like Harry and Lloyd?

[Camille Ludington]

A tad, but a dollop.

[Jessica Capshaw]

But I'm gonna be honest.

[Camille Ludington]

We're looking at Bra spritz.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, that's what it says. It says for those who like to stick to cocktail hues as soon as summer arrives. Perhaps this zesty tangerine and clementine resembling a rum punch or aperol spritz will make it into your beach bound suitcase. How do you feel about a tangerine? I have never seen you in a tangerine.

[Camille Ludington]

No, I don't think I have.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Do you own anything in that color?

[Camille Ludington]

I do. Like I live over summer. I do like. I do like a tangerine or an orangey red pedicure.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love a lip, actually. I love an orangey red lip. You know who wouldn't like that? Matt?

[Camille Ludington]

I know they don't. We've talked about this. They don't like that, and we don't care. We don't care. Well, if we like it, we don't care. If we don't care and they don't care then. Or if we don't care and they care.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

We still don't care.

[Jessica Capshaw]

We still don't care.

[Camille Ludington]

And then we've got in the finale position, icy blue.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You do have a lot of icy blue.

[Camille Ludington]

I have a lot of icy blue. I love an icy blue. I think as soon as you, as soon as it's established that you have blue eyes, people just force you into all kinds of blue. I remember, I feel that I've spoken about this before, but I remember going in for fittings at Grace with Mimi and it would be when we were not wearing scrubs, although my scrubs were blue. And I would be like, let's wear a different color because I wear blue all the time. And my entire, you know, the rolling racks out, out for all the clothes for you to try on. And it would just be like I ended up, we ended up calling it Arizona Blue because it was just like you always knew it was going to be up in my rack when it was Arizona blue. It wasn't icy though. It was more of a, it was a much brighter blue.

[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Camille Ludington]

Does sound like your ribs.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Joe Wilson's rack is a lot of jewel tones. A lot of like purple actually recently. Yeah.

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[Camille Ludington]

There'S some sort of.

[Jessica Capshaw]

There's a through line here. This is us, Cosmopolitan. And they said butter yellow.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, butter yellow. It's just. Yeah, the pastel version of a very sunny shade. Would you, if you. If, if I was taking you, if I was like, hey, I'm gonna pick you up, we're gonna go get our nails done. Would you get short butter yellow nails? Would you get butter yellow French tips like a French manicuri? Would you get like nail art?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I think that if I'm going a color like that, for me I gotta do like a short kind of like squarish. But My go to is I love like a, like a long. I mean, listen, if I could do a Cynthia Rivo freaking.

[Camille Ludington]

Really? Oh, my God, that feels heavy. There's a lot. Because there's. There's jewelry on it too.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I know.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I mean, it wouldn't be anything. I don't. I not. No, I don't need to do anything. I couldn't do it because I can't. Like, there's just, you know, I'm out outside picking up dog poops with those. Like, it's not. You can't do that. Right? Like, you can't. Definitely can't do that. But I do like the long. The almond. I like a long almond shape.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, Yeah, I do too. I do too.

[Jessica Capshaw]

And then maybe I would do a tip then. Yeah. What about you?

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[Jessica Capshaw]

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[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. I was, I was looking at the inspo pics and I was thinking French manicure as well. But then I know I can always. I don't know, I feel like sometimes when I do a French manicure, that's not just the good old fashioned white. It makes my nails look shorter and like, kind of stumpy.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, see, I always get an extension.

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, okay.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Bring out the extensions.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah, the extenders.

[Jessica Capshaw]

The extenders. Listen, it's better.

[Camille Ludington]

Long nails in the summer is actually. Can be a real problem because you got the sunscreen and it's underneath your fingernails.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

And if they're too long, it's like you find a snack for later under underneath there. And that's just.

[Jessica Capshaw]

That's so gross.

[Camille Ludington]

So gross. I agree.

[Jessica Capshaw]

This is a little episode that we're trying to be capture. I was like, we could find a snack under these nails. Can I tell you, it's an era, a summer era that I really miss. And I wouldn't do it again because it's just. I look back and I, you know, have mixed feelings about it. But at the time, it was like, it was the summer that Sienna Miller, like, just popped right. Like she came out and Alfie. And she was in like the little short summer dresses with like the gladiator belt on the hip. And then even sometimes like the little. I mean, the fur, Remember the faux fur little like cardigan situation? I don't even want. And then the gladiator boots. That felt like a really fun summer because we don't always. Sometimes we keep things basic and everyone was just like, it. We're wearing the fur in July.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. But she also looked like she was Going from music festival to music festival.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, but we all did. But I was just going for the.

[Camille Ludington]

To the grocery store with her. Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Did you have, like, a clueless. You were in LA when Clueless hit and like. No. No one.

[Camille Ludington]

No, no, no. It was. It was actually the opposite.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Was it kind of like, it was.

[Camille Ludington]

Not uncool to be clueless?

[Jessica Capshaw]

Was it really? Like, at that time, like the knee. So like the thigh high socks. Oh, I would have very.

[Camille Ludington]

It was, yeah. It was uncool to be clueless. I don't know. I mean, I feel like my cool summer was. It's. I've never had a summer where I didn't. And I have daughters that are sadly following in my footsteps where it's just like, the shorter, the better. Just entire butt cheek hanging out. Yeah. Not even a quarter one. The entire thing.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love you in a short skirt, though.

[Camille Ludington]

I like a short skirt.

[Jessica Capshaw]

I hope that, like, we'll be, you know, 80 years old in short skirts. Short skirts, yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Did you see that Demi Moore was the. Was it People. People magazine's most beautiful person on the COVID Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Well, she is.

[Camille Ludington]

I mean, she's gorgeous and she's really. I mean, she's. She's such. She's. She really is. I love that she's ready to talk about it all, you know, like, the. The two things can be true. You can be getting older and be very grateful for your years at the same time that you're like, damn you. Why is my face fallen?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I want to know. Because Sienna Miller was my little. My summer, if you. Who is. And she probably still is like, fashion. Maybe the main fashion icon for me personally.

[Camille Ludington]

Of course she is.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Who is yours?

[Camille Ludington]

Oh, I'm on. I was kind of like, he, he, he. Ha, ha ha. Maybe we haven't talked about this. Her.

[Jessica Capshaw]

She.

[Camille Ludington]

I had pictures in my. In my closet. Like in my 20s, not even like in my teens, I would take out pictures of Sienna Miller, put them on my closet with double stick tape behind them because it would be like, outfit inspo.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Stop.

[Camille Ludington]

Yes. With her cute freckles and all of it. Yes. Everything. Sienna Miller, everything. Once she started becoming the fashion staple that she still is.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

My guess is that everybody just sent her everything. Right. Because she just. But that was the thing is, like, she was so cool. She'd wear the new stuff, but she put it in with her own, like, spin on it or her own look.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, I know. And that was the problem, because someone like Sienna Miller genuinely looks good with any haircut. Any. Anything Anything on. She cut her hair at one point. We're just going to talk about this real quick. She cut her hair one point up to her chin. And I was like, wow, I'm gonna do that. And I look nothing like Sienna Miller. And I really thought that I could rock that. And I. I, you know, I. I had a couple days where if I styled it just right, maybe it was good. But I was like, you can't. You're not Sienna. I wish I was. Anyway.

[Camille Ludington]

Anywho, I wonder if she'll be wearing better yellow nails this summer.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Yeah, she might be. Listen, I told you. Well, I looked up the Vogue in England. That's what they're saying.

[Camille Ludington]

I had an in person sighting. I was walking around the. I was with Poppy, and we'd walked across the park, and we were on the Upper east side. And I had actually just been saying to a friend, sorry, everyone. I was like, the Upper east side isn't very cool, right? Like, it's like more like, you know, it's more residential. It doesn't have, like, the cool factor, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, I guess the Gossip Girl situation was always. But I don't know, I was like, it's more residential. And then I had no sooner said it than a day later, coming around the corner and walk smack dab into gorgeous Sienna Miller and her super cute boyfriend, like, pushing their pram down Madison Avenue, enjoying the day. And I was like, I guess I'm.

[Jessica Capshaw]

You were instantly wrong.

[Camille Ludington]

I'm instantly wrong.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Instantly wrong. Yeah.

[Camille Ludington]

Because if she's there, it's cool.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Oh, it's so cool.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah. Let's add some more pictures of her and put them on our wall.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Gladly.

[Camille Ludington]

Butter yellow. All right, well, I'm gonna investigate this. I'm gonna send you some hues, and I'm gonna maybe get. Maybe I'll be here same time next week with some butter yellow nails.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Do it.

[Camille Ludington]

Why not?

[Jessica Capshaw]

I love it.

[Camille Ludington]

Yeah.

[Jessica Capshaw]

Let's call it the end of the episode.