Call It What It Is – "Furry Skims, Ageless Skin and a Tacky Christmas Trend?"

Podcast: Call It What It Is
Date: October 31, 2025
Hosts: Jessica Capshaw & Camilla Luddington

Episode Overview

In this lively episode, real-life best friends and Grey Sloan Memorial alums Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington dive into the week’s wildest trending topics. From Kim Kardashian’s viral furry Skims thongs to the social media spectacle of “Group 7” and the latest Christmas décor wars, the duo brings their signature humor, candid honesty, and chemistry. Alongside playful banter, they explore serious questions about beauty standards, cosmetic procedures in Hollywood, and nostalgic traditions, with plenty of memorable quips along the way.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Furry Skims" Thongs Craze (03:09–09:38)

• Initial Reactions:
  • Camilla introduces Kim Kardashian’s latest Skims drop: a thong underwear line featuring faux pubic hair, expressing disbelief that it was real and not just a PR stunt.
  • Jessica shares her shock at hearing the news at work, likening it to a “core memory” (05:00) and laughs about the absurdity of faux pubes on thongs:

    “Like thongs that have pubic hair on them should be something that you find out in an intimate setting.” — Jessica (05:05)

• Product Specifics:
  • Camilla highlights the twelve different hair textures and shades offered, drawing a tongue-in-cheek comparison to shade-matching foundation (04:12, 05:47).
  • Both speculate about the need for a “3D visual” try-on tool, echoing furniture shopping tech (07:07).
• Cultural Trends:
  • Discussion moves to the cyclicality of body hair trends, referencing “the return to the ‘70s bush”:

    "We went big bush... we moved into no bush. Now... we've gone full circle." — Jessica (08:38)

• Memorable Moment:
  • The two riff about gifting the right “hair texture” for Valentine’s:

    “Is there a shade matcher? And what if you want to wear that, and your husband... is like, I’m not sure that was the right texture for you.” — Camilla (05:47)

2. Ageless Skin and Hollywood Facelifts (09:38–14:40)

• Industry Observations:
  • Camilla notes a spike in chatter about Hollywood stars getting facelifts, pondering the paradox of changing the looks that made one famous (09:38).
  • Jessica suggests most actors see it as “preservation,” not change:

    “I think all the efforts are about preservation, isn’t it? Staying young.” — Jessica (10:17)

• Risks & Trends:
  • The risk of looking unnatural is high; Camilla jokes about celebrities ending up with “White Walker” eyes after eyelid surgery (blepharoplasty/blessoplasty):

    “I think it opens some people’s eyes up so much they look like a White Walker looking into your soul.” — Camilla (12:31)

• Scrutiny and Value:
  • They discuss public scrutiny, especially when procedures go wrong, and link it to K*ris Jenner’s openly discussed facelift and the social signaling of “facelift pricing” (14:40).

3. The Group 7 TikTok Phenomenon (15:30–21:13)

• Social Media FOMO:
  • Camilla explains the viral “Group 7” video assignment trend, her initial excitement-then-disappointment on being misassigned, and Jessica reveals she’s (of course) in Group 7.
  • Camilla bemoans the existence of Group 7 meetups and brand deals, while she’s stuck in Group 4.
  • Jessica deadpans:

    “It’s just like skibidi. It doesn’t mean anything. It’s not real.” — Jessica (16:48)

• Cultural Touchstone:
  • Jessica shares going on “Live with Kelly Ripa,” celebrating their shared Group 7 status and the real-life meetups, highlighting how digital trends spill offline (20:28).

4. The "Mall World" Collective Dream Trend (21:18–24:19)

• Viral Dream Sharing:
  • Camilla introduces the “Mall World” TikTok/Redit trend—total strangers believing they’ve shared the same dream about a maze-like, empty mall world.
  • Jessica is skeptical and jokes about it devolving into alien conspiracy:

    “This is going to end in aliens.” — Jessica (23:12)

• Debate:
  • The two spar endearingly, with Camilla wanting to believe in the phenomenon and Jessica not buying it, asking listeners to “prove it” (24:07).

5. Ralph Lauren Christmas vs. “Tacky” Christmas (24:19–31:41)

• Decor Wars:
  • Camilla and Jessica discuss the "Ralph Lauren Christmas" aesthetic: deep greens, jewel tones, velvet/plaid, natural/organic markup vs. the “Millennial Gray” home issue.
  • Jessica’s rules: pick one plaid, no mixing, wrap all presents (no gift bags!), keep the color scheme tight (26:13, 27:42).
• Nostalgic Trees:
  • Camilla shares her affection for colorful, mismatched 90’s trees, which social media has branded “tacky Christmas”—she pushes for a rebrand to “nostalgic Christmas” (30:35).
  • Jessica notes adults always want white lights, but kids love color, and she resists the idea that you can’t make Ralph Lauren Christmas work with colored lights (31:28).

6. Hot Take: Trunk or Treat (34:53–36:19)

• Halloween Modernization:
  • Camilla drops her dislike for "trunk or treat" (decorating car trunks for trick-or-treating).
  • Jessica hadn’t heard of it; Camilla critiques it for killing the “classic” Halloween experience:

    “You’re not getting that, like, knock, knock, knock... memory of it.” — Camilla (35:41)

7. Adult Costuming and Halloween Parenting (36:19–43:41)

• Costume Confessions:
  • Both discuss their own (reluctant or enthusiastic) participation in adult costumes. Camilla bought high-end replica ruby slippers, while Jessica defaults to “cat ears and whiskers.”
  • Parenting anecdotes on kids demanding “daytime” and “nighttime” costumes, compared to wedding outfit changes (38:09).
  • Jessica jokes about her karma for past “sexy” costumes and braces for the day her daughter requests a “sexy vampire” costume (40:19).
• Memorable Mishap:
  • Camilla’s embarrassing “HEROES” (misspelled "HEREOs") cheerleader costume story provides a hilarious highlight:

    “I spelled heroes wrong… I wore that all night waiting on tables.” — Camilla (42:04)

Notable Quotes & Moments by Timestamp

• On Skims Faux Pubic Hair Underwear:
  “We spend all this time and money getting hair taken off our bodies, and Kim has decided that we need it back on our bodies…” — Jessica (03:14)
• Core Memory:
  "This was evidently a very important thing that happened in my life." — Jessica (04:57)
• On Facelifts:
  "The face that you have made you famous ... so it's really bonkers to some people that you would change it, right?" — Camilla (10:00)
• Beauty Surgery Nerves:
  "I don't like the permanence of it. And I don't like that I would not be able to hide." — Jessica (13:53)
• On Christmas Aesthetics:
  "According to social media, it's called a tacky Christmas, Jess." — Camilla (30:27)
  "I think that's a wrong name for it though... I think it needs to be rebranded." — Jessica (30:43)
• On Halloween Costume Fails:
  “I spelled heroes wrong… I wore that all night waiting on tables.” — Camilla (42:04)
• On Best Friend Vibes:
  "You're so my bestie. You know me so well." — Jessica (37:39)

Timestamps for Key Topics

• Furry Skims Thong Trend: 03:09–09:38
• Facelifts & Hollywood Aging: 09:38–14:40
• TikTok "Group 7" Assignment: 15:30–21:13
• Mall World Dream Trend: 21:18–24:19
• Ralph Lauren vs Tacky Christmas: 24:19–31:41
• Trunk or Treat Rant: 34:53–36:19
• Adult Costumes, Parenting & Halloween Blunders: 36:19–43:41

Tone & Chemistry

True to form, Jessica and Camilla’s friendship radiates through whip-smart banter, friendly ribbing, and supportive exchanges (“You know me so well,” “Of course you are!”). Their commentary is warm, irreverently funny, and peppered with cultural insights, making complex (and ridiculous) trends approachable.

For Listeners: What You’ll Get

• A playful yet thoughtful analysis of wild social trends and aesthetic shifts
• Personal anecdotes and humility about beauty pressures and parenting
• Friendship goals in action—a thousand pep talks and a million “I’ve got you" moments, with plenty of laughter along the way