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Jessica Capshaw
Foreign crew and welcome to a very special episode of Call it what It Is. Why is it so special this week and I can't even believe that I'm saying this honestly. This week is the one year anniversary of our podcast and it feels like it's gone so fast. Jess this week is traveling to Nashville and she's shooting 91 1. So our schedules were all over the place and we are trying to figure out how do we celebrate this week when we can't get on the podcast together. We can't just leave it a week without talking to the crew, especially this week. So we came up with this idea that we would have these individual podcasts or individual kind of conversations with you this week to make it a little more intimate and to celebrate being on this journey with you, because you are, you have been so much of the magic that has, that has been this podcast. So this is me, just me talking to you guys, celebrating one year. And in order to do that, we came up with some questions that I am going to run through and, and talk to you guys about. But the first thing, the first question I'm going to tackle is one thing that surprised me most about the podcast, and I think one thing that's really surprised me is, and Jess and I have talked about this before, but for years and years and years, I mean, over a decade, you know, obviously we have gone out and done press for different projects that we've been part of. Right. And, and when we're in these interviews with people, they are often asking maybe a question or two about which we touch on, you know, very briefly. And then a lot of our questions are, of course, about the characters that we play and their lives and emotionally what they're going through. And when Jess and I decided to do call it what it is, we knew that we were going to have to be really vulnerable in order to make it work and really talk about our own shit. And at first I was wondering, is this going to be hard? Like, how easy is this going to be? It feels so vulnerable. But in order for us to expect the audience and the listeners to open up to us, we have to do the same in return. And so the thing that sort of surprised me most about the podcast in general is organically how quickly that ended up happening for us. And I think it's really a testament to you guys because you guys received what we were saying and then in return were super vulnerable back with us and super open and not judgmental. And you didn't agree with everything we were saying, but it was just, it instantly felt like this little community, which isn't so little anymore. I mean, I think we're almost at 5 million downloads, which is wild, you guys. But it does feel like a little community still. And I'm so grateful for you guys for making it easier for us to do this. That's the truth. Because it is. When you're sitting here and you're talking, like, joke about you guys knowing, you know, my. Our exit CVS pharmacy. These are little details about our lives that I didn't know we would ever tell necessarily anyone about. And. And so that's just been such an incredible part of the podcast, and that just in general, probably has been. What surprised me the most is how organically we've just felt, um, like you guys sort of have opened your arms to us, and then I hope in return that you feel like we've opened our arms out to you. Okay. One thing that surprised me most about the crew. You guys are so funny. And every time we ask you guys, what do you think of this? Give us your comments, give us your stories, give us your questions. You guys were ready. Like, you came ready. You came prepared. You came so open. And. And again, just the. The things, the stories that you tell us, the questions that you give us, the comments that you make. I'm laughing with you guys all the time, and I just don't think this podcast could have worked without you showing up in the way that you have and continue to do so. Thank you. Because I think that really, like I said, like, you're. You guys are the magic, and we get to be along for the ride with you. Favorite guest. This is so hard. I think that one of my favorite guests, though, had to be Stefania. And the conversation that we ended up having about sex, because Stefani and I. I love her. I've known her a very long time now, and these are often sort of. I feel like what you sort of got were the conversations that often happen in our trailers or behind the scenes when we have all this downtime and we're not filming. And, you know, they haven't called us up to set yet, and there's a lot of, you know, we're just. There's a lot of that, like, how are you doing? What's going on in your life? And. And you really got to hear a lot of that intimacy and be in on it with us. And what I loved so much about her and I knew this would happen, is she came in, and I knew that she was just gonna be super open and honest and raw and, again, vulnerable. Right. And I think that you guys can really hear that in the podcast. So what I loved so much about her as a guest is it felt like downtime on set. And the conversations we have and we just happen to have mics. And again, you got to be part of that friendship circle with us. Okay. A moment that has shocked me over the past year. I have to mention this because it really, I mean, you guys listen to it. Like, I'm laughing now. I'm almost laughing because I'm so uncomfortable and I don't know how I feel about it. The moment with Teresa Caputo when. Because you guys know this because we ended up doing a short and sweet after where we had said to the producers, don't have her read us, just have her come on and she can just talk about her gift. And then she fully ended up reading. Like all of us was so mind blowing and probably honestly the most, like one of the most vulnerable moments I felt with you guys. Sharing with you guys. And there was a part of me that I remember going into the podcast thinking if she reads me and my mom comes through, then I'm just going to cut it because it's going to be too much, right? It's been so, so long since my mom passed and it's just going to feel like this moment that I don't want to share. And then it happened and it felt right to me personally to keep it in. It felt like this really real moment. I know a lot of you have dealt with grief and loss and. And maybe you could understand those feelings that I was feeling or maybe you couldn't. But I just, that moment for sure just, I mean, still you can hear me like mumbling over it. I'm still like processing and I think that for sure had to be the moment that shocked me. And I'm so glad that I kept it in guest. I fangirled over the most. I mean, we've had so many incredible people on. I mean, we had Kristen Chenoweth on like right when we know Wicked had come out. And it was just, I mean, we've had Gina Davis on these incredible people. Personally, for me, when, when I met Kyler Lee, I really did geek out. I think because I'm a Grey's Anatomy fan. I got on the season right after her. I'd truly heard from everybody on set how incredible she was. She's such a fan favorite. I loved that character. And it almost felt like she was like this mythical being to me that I just wasn't real. Like this person didn't really ex or she existed on the show and sort of like, you know, in in my world on set, but not really. And so to see her in person was definitely this fangirly moment for me. And then how amazing was she? She was so fantastic. And again, another person that just showed up ready to just talk and be open with the crew. And I am so grateful for guests like that because you can hear it in the chemistry of the conversation. And so definitely Kyler for me.
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Moment that made me laugh the hardest. I don't think I knew how absurdly ridiculous Jess found the word fart. This was a surprise to me, you guys. And the fact that she's like on the floor tickled by this word gets me every time. I don't know, it's like, Jess is like, so you know her. She's like so chic. Okay, you guys, even in real life, it's super annoying. Like I'll roll out of bed and like meet up with her for something and I will literally look like I've slept in, you know, the backyard and the sprinklers have been turned on. Like that's how I'm rolling up to her and she'll be like, oh God, I just got out of the shower and she's like, still annoyingly glowing. So it's just really funny to me that fart is like her trigger happy word and it still makes me giggle when I hear her giggle. What I've learned in the first year of this podcast not to overthink stuff in the early first few, you know, episodes, I I wasn't overthinking It, I was, you know, I, I, I went into it thinking like, okay, let's just be real. Me and Jess have a conversation and, and see how this goes. But I wondered if people would really even listen. And I think you can get in your head when you're thinking in that way. And very quickly I learned to drop that and just be in the moment. And so I think that that is, that's what I've learned the most in the first year. What was it like having my husband on, you guys? I really, I actually really had a lot of fun with him on. And I think that you guys got to hear we're so private, and we've never done an interview together, so it's the first time that you guys even, you know, we, we do, it's interesting because we do a lot of interviews with co stars, right? Like, you've heard me and Chris Carmack talk together a million times or all these other people on Grey's Anatomy. And you get a sense of, like, that chemistry behind the scenes and the friendship and, you know, things that make you laugh about together and inside jokes and all those things, but you never really do that with your family. And so to have Matt on and for you guys to get a little insight into our married life, some people joked in the comments, like, this is like a therapy session for you. Get to get to be in, like, couples therapy with us was just really fun. And, and I, and I, I love that you guys got to, got to know, like, a different side of me because obviously you're seeing me talk to my husband and it's a little bit different. Like, the chemistry is going to be different than me talking to Jess. So I thought that was actually, like, a really fun episode. And I do think we should, I joke that we will never have him back on, but we will definitely have to have have him back on. I do think that we should also do an episode with Chris Carmack and his wife Aaron, if you guys don't follow them on social media. They're so funny, you guys. And I think the four of us together, because, you know, we know each other well in real life would be really fun. Okay, what guess would I love for season two? I think that some of you could guess this, and I know you're gonna laugh. I need a UFO alien expert, you guys. I really think that, like, call it what it is in the crew could crack some of the secrets to the universe in a podcast episode. And Jess is gonna, like, eye roll her way through some of it maybe, but And I'm not talking about, like, someone in there. We get someone who's like, you know, in their basement with some janky telescope they've got off Amazon and they've decided that they're now a UFO expert. I'm talking about, like, who was head of the CIA during Roswell. Are they still alive? I don't know. But if they are, they gotta come and call it what it is, because I have a list of questions, you know. I do. So really, for me, aliens are going to be. Aliens need to be a big time episode for season two. And what episode would I recommend to a brand new listener? I took some time thinking about this question and I kept just thinking, like, I think that Jess and I, you know, and naturally this happens anytime you start something new. You sort of get in more of a rhythm and you kind of find your flow more as you go along. And I definitely think that we've gotten that as the podcast, you know, as we've been recording more episodes through the year. But I still think starting at the beginning is a good start because I think you really get the backstory in that very first episode of how this friendship between us started. And I think starting at the beginning and going through this journey with us, going through all the episodes that way in the order that we sort of did them, I don't know. Hopefully you can hear the growth in the podcast too, and like how the, how the crew comes along with us on the journey. I mean, there's definitely so many episodes you can jump in and listen to and it's all going to make sense and hopefully they're going to be fun or you'll laugh with us or you'll cry with us. But I almost feel like that first episode, you know, we were, we were so excited to start something new. And you can hear that, and we're still so excited. But, you know, there's a lot of foundation building that we do in that first episode. But all of this is to say that we've. We're referencing this first year as our season one, and we cannot wait. We feel like we're just getting started. We can't wait for season two. We can't wait for you guys to tell us who you want to see on the podcast. We've already had so many incredible guests on our first year. It's honestly blown my mind. But we want to hear more from you and we want to build on this community and continue this magic that we feel. It's honestly so fun every time I get on and there are days when I'm tired, right, and I'm like, I need another cup of coffee or damn, I want to, you know, like, I just need to take a nap right now. But I gotta go do the podcast. I've come away from the podcast feeling reinvigorated, happier, excited for you guys to hear it or even sometimes like, you know, when we kind of talk about more serious things and we've cried on the podcast. I come away feeling almost like a therapy session, really, with you guys. And then to hear all your response back, I just, I really hope that you guys can hear in our voices how much this means to us. So with that said, I'm going to call at the end of the episode and I'm so excited. Please stick around for season two of Call it what It Is.
Call It What It Is: Happy Birthday Call It Crew! – Episode Summary
Release Date: June 4, 2025
Host: Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington
Podcast: Call It What It Is
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
In this milestone episode, Call It What It Is celebrates its one-year anniversary, reflecting on the journey, growth, and the vibrant community that has formed around the podcast. Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington delve into the evolution of their friendship circle, highlighting the deep connections they've fostered with their listeners.
Jessica Capshaw shares her astonishment at the podcast's rapid ascent, stating, "We're almost at 5 million downloads, which is wild, you guys. But it does feel like a little community still." (03:40)
A central theme of the episode is the importance of vulnerability in building a genuine connection with the audience. Jessica reflects on the initial apprehensions about opening up, emphasizing how quickly the community reciprocated with their own openness and support.
"When Jess and I decided to do Call It What It Is, we knew that we were going to have to be really vulnerable... But it instantly felt like this little community." (04:30)
Camille echoes this sentiment, appreciating the listener engagement and the humor brought in by the audience's comments and stories, which have been pivotal in shaping the podcast's dynamic.
The hosts reminisce about their favorite guests and unforgettable moments over the past year, illustrating the diverse and meaningful interactions that have enriched the podcast.
Stefania: Jessica praises Stefania for her honest and raw conversations, likening the discussions to behind-the-scenes moments on set. "It felt like downtime on set... you got to be part of that friendship circle with us." (07:15)
Teresa Caputo: A particularly emotional episode involved Teresa Caputo sharing personal experiences related to grief. Jessica admits the vulnerability of the moment, "It felt like this really real moment... I'm still processing." (09:45)
Kyler Lee: Camille shares her excitement about having Kyler Lee, a beloved Grey's Anatomy star, as a guest. She describes the encounter as a fangirl moment, appreciating Kyler's openness and the seamless chemistry during their conversation. "She was so fantastic... you can hear it in the chemistry of the conversation." (11:10)
The episode doesn't shy away from discussing shocking and heartfelt moments that have defined the podcast's first year.
Vulnerable Conversations: Jessica recalls a moment of unexpected depth when Teresa Caputo shared heartfelt stories, highlighting the podcast's ability to handle heavy topics with grace.
Humorous Insights: Both hosts share lighter moments, such as Jessica laughing over Camille's unexpected love for the word "fart," showcasing the balance of humor and seriousness that characterizes their discussions. "Jess is like, so chic... but fart is like her trigger happy word." (15:52)
Jessica and Camille reflect on the personal growth they've experienced through the podcast. Jessica mentions learning not to overthink and to stay present in the moment, which has been crucial in connecting authentically with their audience.
"I've learned to drop that and just be in the moment. And that is what I've learned the most in the first year." (16:30)
Camille adds that engaging with the community has felt therapeutic, both for them and for listeners, creating a sense of shared healing and understanding.
As they wrap up the anniversary episode, the hosts express their enthusiasm for the future, hinting at exciting plans and potential guests for season two.
Guest Suggestions: Jessica whimsically suggests having a UFO alien expert to discuss cosmic mysteries, hoping to dive into intriguing conversations that challenge the imagination. "Aliens need to be a big time episode for season two." (19:10)
New Listener Recommendations: Both recommend new listeners start from the very first episode to fully grasp the foundation and growth of the podcast. "Starting at the beginning is a good start because you really get the backstory." (18:45)
Community Involvement: They invite listeners to continue shaping the podcast by suggesting guests and topics, emphasizing the collaborative spirit that has defined their first year. "We want to hear more from you and we want to build on this community." (20:05)
The hosts share intimate details about their lives, including inviting Jessica's husband onto the podcast, offering listeners a glimpse into their married life and the dynamics it brings to their conversations.
"Having Matt on was just really fun... it's like couples therapy with us." (17:20)
They underscore the importance of authenticity and honesty, which has allowed their friendship and the podcast to thrive, creating a supportive environment for both hosts and listeners alike.
Wrapping up the episode, Jessica and Camille extend their heartfelt gratitude to the listeners, acknowledging that the podcast's success is a collective effort driven by the supportive and engaged community.
"You guys are the magic, and we get to be along for the ride with you." (05:10)
They sign off with excitement for the future, promising more engaging content and deeper connections in the upcoming seasons.
Jessica Capshaw (03:40): "We're almost at 5 million downloads, which is wild, you guys. But it does feel like a little community still."
Jessica Capshaw (04:30): "When Jess and I decided to do Call It What It Is, we knew that we were going to have to be really vulnerable... But it instantly felt like this little community."
Camille Luddington (11:10): "She was so fantastic... you can hear it in the chemistry of the conversation."
Jessica Capshaw (15:52): "Jess is like, so chic... but fart is like her trigger happy word."
Jessica Capshaw (16:30): "I've learned to drop that and just be in the moment. And that is what I've learned the most in the first year."
Jessica Capshaw (17:20): "Having Matt on was just really fun... it's like couples therapy with us."
Camille Luddington (20:05): "We want to hear more from you and we want to build on this community."
"Happy Birthday Call It Crew!" is a deeply engaging episode that not only commemorates the podcast's first year but also strengthens the bonds between the hosts and their listeners. Through heartfelt discussions, humorous anecdotes, and reflections on memorable moments, Jessica and Camille encapsulate the essence of Call It What It Is—a space for genuine connection, shared experiences, and unwavering support.
Listeners, whether longtime fans or newcomers, are invited to celebrate this milestone and look forward to the continued adventures and conversations that lie ahead in season two.
This summary captures the essence and key moments of the "Happy Birthday Call It Crew!" episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't yet tuned in.