New Dawn New Day

Summary

Podcast Summary: "We Ride at Dawn (ish)"

Episode: New Dawn New Day
Date: June 18, 2026
Hosts: Jessica Capshaw & Camilla Luddington
Network: Dear Media

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Overview

The debut episode of "We Ride at Dawn (ish)" marks a new era for hosts and real-life best friends Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington. The pair return to the mic after a hiatus, now under the Dear Media umbrella and with a fresh title that reflects both their enduring friendship and the messiness of real life. This episode is a candid, laughter-filled reconnection—a celebration of their bond, a behind-the-scenes look at their recent rebranding photoshoot (with horses!), and a preview of the intimate, community-driven conversations to come.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Meaning Behind "We Ride at Dawn (ish)"

• Origin of the Name:
  • The "ish" is both a nod to flexibility (“sometimes dawn is too early,” [00:33]) and a symbol of how life doesn't always go as planned. Camilla explains her struggle with Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, which leaves her tired and "slothy" ([00:41–01:08]).
  • Jessica shares her evolution from a "black and white thinker" to embracing life's gray areas—her own "ish" ([01:26–01:38]).
• Memorable Quote:
  • Camilla: “My ish is actually sort of like — that's the word that you use. You’re a little slothy.” ([00:55])
  • Jessica: “My ish would be that I think that I used to be a very black and white thinker... I see the gray now a little bit better.” ([01:25])

Friendship Origin Story & Community Building

• They reminisce on meeting, becoming friends in 2013 after a rocky first year (“We were enemies for one year.” [02:11]), and the "wild ride" of supporting each other through life’s ups and downs ([03:06–03:20]).
• Discuss their hope to create a supportive, joyful, and inclusive community around the podcast: “We’ve built this little community — or kind of big community, actually — and we really feel like everyone’s been on the ride with us.” ([03:59])
• Notable Moment:
  • Hilarious “sleepover” in NYC for press, waking up together and eating gummy bears in bed ([04:31–05:16]).

Horse Ranch Photoshoot: Comedy, Chaos, and Horses

• Behind the Scenes:
  • Camilla masterminded the new show artwork, insisting on a horse-centric shoot at Hollywood Ranch ([07:14–09:02]).
  • Both detail their contrasting experiences with horses—Jessica is comfortable (“I used to ride when I was younger”—[11:02]); Camilla is (hilariously) terrified ([13:41]).
• Memorable Sequence:
  • Camilla recounts barely remembering ever riding a horse and choosing the shortest one out of fear ([12:36–13:00]).
  • Jessica’s “calm energy” with her horse juxtaposed with Camilla’s “Does this horse like me? Because the vibes are off.” ([17:00])
  • Camilla’s feeling that all the horses were “talking about her” after the shoot ([19:04–19:32]).
• Quote:
  • Camilla: “Now, what I didn't know about this horse is that he hated me. This horse had smelt me from the 405 freeway.” ([14:08])
  • Jessica: “You thought the horse was a dick.” ([16:41])

Photo Review: “A Surprise Wedding”

• While reviewing their photos, they realized they accidentally took what looked like wedding pictures together, prompting lots of laughter and a promise to show listeners ([20:08–20:32]).
• Quote:
  • Jessica: “Did we get married and we didn’t know it?” ([20:08])
  • Camilla: “You guys, honest. It was a beautiful wedding picture.” ([20:19])

Messy Mailbag & Listener Community

• New Segment:
  • Announce the "Messy Mailbag" where monthly they’ll answer listener questions, read updates, and get “messy” with community submissions ([24:45–26:14]).
  • Encouragement for listeners to DM or comment with questions or topics ([26:02–26:14]).
• Quote:
  • Camilla: “Whether it’s comments or questions or about past episodes… drop in the DMs… and we’re going to answer them once a month… Let’s get a little messy.” ([26:02–26:17])

Real Life Updates: Motherhood & Milestones

• Jessica’s son just graduated from high school; she reflects on the emotional rollercoaster of kids leaving for college: “...coming September, when the kids go back to school — my kid’s not going to a school...it's gonna be a little up” ([27:32–28:16]).
• Camilla teases future deep dives into her own "sports mom" era, with the promise of more stories on the pod ([28:24–29:24]).

A Preview of What’s Ahead

• Commitment to deeper, more intimate conversations about motherhood, friendship, life as actors, and finding balance ([29:39–30:03]).
• Guests teased—including real-life friends and "ride at dawnish" companions, both familiar industry faces and family ([32:24–33:07]).
• Themes To Watch For:
  • Differentiating being “nice” versus “kind” ([31:01–31:19]).
  • Bringing casual, “margarita conversation” energy to episodes ([31:19–31:51]).
  • Fun segments on beauty, wellness tips, and industry stories ([32:09–32:23]).

Favorite Bits: Quirks and Laughs

• Jessica reveals her obsession with white post-its and the ritual of writing reminders everywhere—even outside the shower ([21:19–22:25]).
• Playful banter about gummy bears, hair extensions, and last night’s makeup ([06:08–06:12]; [37:03]).
• Quote:
  • Jessica: “Everyone else is digital and obviously my calendar’s on my phone...but if I really want to remember something, I have to write it down.” ([21:19–21:41])

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• 00:55 — Camilla: “My ish is… you’re a little slothy.”
• 03:59 — Camilla: “We've built this little community… and we really feel like everyone’s been on the ride with us.”
• 04:55 — Camilla & Jessica recall the “gummy bear celebration” in their NYC hotel room.
• 13:41 — Jessica: “Put your foot in the stirrup.” (Coaching Camilla onto the horse like a “baby toddler.”)
• 14:08 — Camilla: “Now, what I didn’t know about this horse is that he hated me. This horse had smelt me from the 405 freeway.”
• 16:41 — Jessica: “You thought the horse was a dick.”
• 20:08 — Jessica: “Did we get married and we didn’t know it?”
• 26:04 — Camilla: “DM us, drop in the DMs… We’re going to answer them once a month.”
• 27:32 — Jessica opens up about her son graduating and the start of a new motherhood chapter.
• 31:01 — Jessica: “My whole life, I thought that being nice and being kind were the same thing.”

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Important Segments by Timestamp

• 00:00–01:19: Show title, its meaning, the “ish” of life, and personal struggles.
• 02:11–03:59: Friendship story and how they became “number one calls” for each other.
• 04:31–05:16: NYC trip and “gummy bear” hotel moment.
• 07:14–18:00: Hollywood Ranch photoshoot—comedy, chaos, and Camilla’s horse anxiety.
• 20:08–20:32: Accidental “wedding photo” revelation.
• 24:45–26:14: Announcement and explanation of the “Messy Mailbag.”
• 27:32–29:24: Emotional updates—parenting, college, sports mom bit.
• 29:39–33:07: Podcast vision for deeper conversations, future guests, and community connection.
• 36:41–38:05: Playful banter—white post-its, learning new things in friendship.

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Tone & Atmosphere

Jessica and Camilla keep the tone irreverent, intimate, and witty, riffing naturally with each other. The energy is that of a cozy girls’ night: honest, sometimes vulnerable, always funny, and welcoming to newcomers—no prior knowledge of their history required.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• Real-life chaos and the joy of “showing up” are central themes.
• Expect a blend of humor, candid life updates, behind-the-scenes Hollywood stories, and heartfelt conversations.
• Listener engagement is a priority: the community shapes the show.
• Episodes will feature guests, “messy” Q&As, reflections on motherhood, acting, wellness, and the unique intersection of public and private life.

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Stay tuned for Episode 2, which will break down all the behind-the-scenes details from Jessica and Camilla’s eventful NYC week—gummy bears, hair extensions, and everything messy in between.

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Connect with the show:
Slide into their DMs, send questions for the Messy Mailbag, and follow for all upcoming episodes (now with video)!

Transcript

[A]

I'm Jessica Capshaw.

[B]

And I'm Camilla Ludington. And welcome to another episode of We Ride at Dawnish.

[A]

Well, hello. I've been waiting a very long time to say this. Are you ready for it?

[B]

Yeah. Do it.

[A]

We're back.

[B]

We're back. It sounded a little bit horror movie ish, but it's not.

[A]

It's a thriller.

[B]

It's.

[A]

This is an emotional thriller.

[B]

It's a thrilling ride.

[A]

It's a thrill because what we ride at dawn.

[B]

Ish.

[A]

Ish.

[B]

Ish. Ish.

[A]

It's ish.

[B]

We'll explain the ish.

[A]

Yeah. Because sometimes dawn is too early, so it's. Well, I also wish for people that don't know.

[B]

Hi, I'm Camilla Ludington. I have.

[A]

I'm Jessica Capshaw.

[B]

Yes, you are. I have an autoimmune disease called. We're just diving in. Called Hashimoto's hypothyroidism. And it makes you really tired.

[A]

Well, you're.

[B]

So the. Is for me is actually sort of like.

[A]

That's the word that you use. You're a little slothy.

[B]

I'm slothy? Yeah.

[A]

I'm a little bit.

[B]

That's the word I use. Before I realized that something was actually genuinely wrong.

[A]

Yes. Before you knew that there was a diagnosable reason for it.

[B]

Yeah. Before I knew I actually had to take medication.

[A]

And then you realized there was a reason for it, and so then you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then we're on that journey.

[B]

Yes, that's the reason for my ish.

[A]

Your ish is what my ish is.

[B]

Because I feel like you don't have any excuse to be. Honestly.

[A]

No.

[B]

Ishy.

[A]

I'm very ishy. You know why? Because I. Well, my ish would be that I think that I used to be a very black and white thinker, and I think my evolution is that I see the gray now a little bit better. And that's the ish for me.

[B]

That's the ish for you.

[A]

That's the ish.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And like I said, sometimes we have to ride at dawn. Sometimes we have to ride midday, Sometimes we gotta write at night. You just don't know.

[B]

You don't know.

[A]

You gotta be ready for it all, but the sentiment behind it. And this new home that we have at Dear Media, new home, new name. What are we excited about?

[B]

New era.

[A]

New era.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Is just. It feels like. It feels like we've been on this wild ride in life together for how many years we've been friends for how long? I haven't counted Many years.

[B]

We were enemies for one year. We were.

[A]

We were. We didn't love each other for a year.

[B]

We were mortal enemies.

[A]

That's accurate. It was more like, yeah, I don't really like you.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

And then you were fine with me.

[B]

Totally. And then we were.

[A]

But maybe. Did you talk about me behind my back?

[B]

Are we just. Is this what we're doing, episode one? Is this actually, like, what we're doing to our listeners? I'm not gonna do this, Jess, with you today. Okay. Okay.

[A]

We can.

[B]

We can say this is episode three. This is episode four.

[A]

Episode three. Episode four.

[B]

I'm trying to welcome everybody. Okay, great. And give the good waters warm.

[A]

The water's warm.

[B]

That was a lot of negativity out the gate.

[A]

Okay, we're coming back. We're coming back. We're coming back positive.

[B]

We have been friends for a really long time. That's been friends, I want to say, since 2013. So whatever math that is because I'm an actor.

[A]

13 years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's a long time.

[A]

That is a really long time. But we've always been on this wild ride together.

[B]

Yes, we have.

[A]

And the ups and the downs and the all arounds. Yeah. And we've done the rally cry for each other. Yeah.

[B]

Over a lot of shit is the truth.

[A]

Yeah. Life. Because life. Lifes. Yeah. Yeah. And we've always been the call. But also, I think that, you know, why we came together in. In this way is because we. We share such a deep love of laughing at ourselves. And when you're really, really in it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's hard to see the other side of things. It's hard to see the joy when you're in pain. It's hard to see the.

[C]

The.

[A]

The beauty of pain.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Or all those contradictory things and the ish and the gray and. And we're really good at pointing those things out to each other. And that's why you're, you know, you're. You're. You're number one call. You're in my favorites.

[B]

Yeah. I think what's exciting is people that get to watch us or listen to us for the first time or they've been listening to us previously, is that we have built this little community or kind of big community, actually, and we really feel like everyone's been on the ride with us.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. And that we've gotten to be on their ride and.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that we've gotten to hear from people what. What they want to talk about and what they want to listen to us talk about. And also, honestly, it's just we. We love hanging out. We love hanging out. Talking about the things we do.

[B]

We love. Yeah.

[A]

We woke up together this morning.

[B]

Oh, my God, Jess, you're starting rumors.

[A]

Well, we're in New York City. We're in New York City together.

[B]

We should say we are in New York City. And we had a sleepover last night.

[A]

Yeah. In the voice I heard was yours this morning.

[B]

It was. What was our.

[A]

Just.

[B]

Just so people understand, because we're so excited. So last night, we're doing a little celebration, and we were eating. What did we eat in bed together last night? A little snack.

[A]

Gummy bears.

[B]

It was a little gummy bear celebration.

[A]

It was. It was.

[B]

Well, they were sitting right there in the hotel. They were calling my name.

[A]

I used to be so intimidated by the hotel. Like, didn't your parents always tell you not to take.

[B]

So intimidated by gummy gummy bears.

[A]

No, I was intimidated by the hotel, like, bar. This. The bars. I was always afraid I'd. Oh, they're too expensive, by the way. How much do you think those gummy bears are going to. That's my room, by the way.

[B]

That was your room.

[A]

How much do you think I paid

[C]

for those gummy bears?

[B]

I don't know. But you know what I've always wondered is, and I don't know if this is true, but, like, is there a sensor in the bar? So if you pick up something. But what if you put it back down?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Exactly. This is what I think about. I go by that. This is what I did this morning before the podcast. I went by that mini bar, and I didn't even sneeze. I was scared to move anything. I didn't want to breathe on that mini bar in case I got charged.

[A]

But what about this? If it's on the shelf, the gummy bears on the shelf. There's no sensors there. I think maybe in the.

[B]

You're a mini bar. I could rummage through it. I didn't care. I was like, whatever. Charge that.

[A]

Rearranged it. Rearranged it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That'll just be $500 for the night, anyways. Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We talked it out.

[B]

Talked out a lot of stuff. Yeah.

[A]

Here we are.

[B]

Fresh as a daisy.

[A]

Are we?

[B]

Not really, Actually, to be honest, I'm

[A]

still wearing last night's makeup.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

I had so many hair extensions in last night. Well, I had so many hair extensions in last night that at one point, someone actually, like, a woman came up to me and did me A favor. And was like, hey, can you just move? Can I touch your hair for a second? Oh, yeah. And I was like, yeah, totally. She's like, just gonna cover this one. This weft.

[B]

I was like, do you know what?

[A]

Go ahead and cover that.

[B]

Well, people should understand. Jess and I are in New York together because we did have to do press for our shows. We're going to be talking about all this stuff on the podcast. You guys are going to be hearing about all of it here first.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay. But we did have to do a little press. Little press last night. And I. I want to tell you that I helped so many girls with their wefties last night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There was a lot of hair extensions out.

[A]

What was going on with the hairstylist? Yes. Last night, yesterday.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I need to make sure that they help us out.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Random throwing in of hair clips and extensions.

[B]

Speaking of hair clips, extensions, glam. One really exciting part of the new name.

[A]

Oh, I know what it's gonna be because it's your favorite part because you're a creative director, let's be honest.

[B]

Is that we needed a whole photo shoot.

[A]

She loves a photo shoot. She loves a photo shoot.

[B]

It's true. I love a photo shoot.

[A]

You do.

[B]

And we were texting, and immediately when we were like, oh, my God, we ride at dawnish, we were so excited. We're like, we can't wait. I was like, jessica, just let me take the wheel on this.

[A]

And I gladly, gladly screwed over to the passenger seat.

[B]

So I. Do you remember back when. Cause it's a hot minute. Like, I sent you a bunch of inspo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So I was like, obviously there has to be some sort of horse involved.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay. At one point I had said to you, maybe we'll go on like a. What is that? Carousel.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I liked that.

[B]

Did you?

[A]

Because I did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I did. I did like that.

[B]

I wasn't thrilled by the response.

[A]

Oh, you need more from me. I was too ish.

[B]

You were a little ish on it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And then my incredible publicist. Alex.

[A]

Yes. We love Alex.

[B]

We love Alex. She said, I know this incredible. And by the way, they are incredible horse ranch in the Hollywood Hills. Yeah.

[A]

Called Hollywood Ranch, which I had never been to before. I had never lived in Los Angeles for a very long time.

[B]

I didn't know anything.

[A]

Fact that I've never been there was wild. Yes.

[B]

And you can definitely go and you can definitely ride horses. And she said, do the photo shoot.

[C]

There.

[B]

And I was like, genius sent you that you booked the flight.

[A]

I did.

[B]

And you were game. You were, like, hot to go. I admittedly had not thought it through. I had the concept. I didn't think through, the execution.

[A]

Yeah. Like, the fact that there would be real horses.

[B]

The fact that there would be a horse.

[A]

Yeah, the fact that there would be a horse.

[B]

Just any horse.

[A]

Any horse at all, and that riding would be involved. So how did you feel when we got there?

[B]

Well, let's just.

[A]

Let's just go straight to it. So we. So we get ready at your house.

[B]

We did. So we got ready at my house, and we had this cute little. We leaned in all the way in with this team together. 100%. There was, like, little cowboy boots.

[A]

There were hats, there was hair, There was makeup.

[B]

I looked great. I looked like I could ride a fucking horse. I looked like I needed to be on a Taylor Sheridan show. I was like, cast me already.

[A]

This is basically your audition. Yeah, this.

[B]

It was.

[A]

Just send this picture to Taylor and be like, taylor, you're welcome.

[B]

Absolutely. And can I tell you my honest thought that I have not. I've never said this out loud to you, but this is what I was thinking on the car right there. I was thinking. I think I rode a horse when I was, like, 8 one time, but I was like, I'm British, so, like, where's that going? It's going that, like, countryside like this is in my blood.

[A]

I didn't use it. I know.

[B]

I didn't say that. I was thinking to myself, I'm gonna get there, and I'm gonna be like, wait a second. Like, this is kind of calling to me.

[A]

You feel your ancestors.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Calling you back home to that saddle.

[B]

Yeah, to that. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I could side saddle out of there.

[A]

Yeah. Science. Hello. Front saddlebad. Back saddle. Yeah. Okay, so we get there. We get there. It's not exclusively ours. So they are doing trail rides up in the thing. So there's some. There's some patrons that are coming back from a trail ride wearing some helmets.

[B]

And I was like, okay, am I

[A]

gonna have to wear a helmet? But because you have to sign the waiver, you're gonna get on a horse.

[B]

Yeah, we had to. The waiver said that we could die.

[A]

Yeah, well, no, it said we could die. If. If we died, we wouldn't sue them, but we'd be dead. But I guess our. Whatever.

[B]

Well, Matt might want to sue.

[A]

He might. But.

[B]

But I signed his right to sign his right. I said, don't worry about It.

[A]

Don't worry about it. It's fine. I gotta get these pictures. So we get. And I'm very comfortable on a horse. I used to ride when I was younger. I'm wet. I mean, it's in my blood, like, for real. So it's not like I'm imaginary in my blood. It's actually in my blood. I didn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I wasn't recalling a countryside, an English countryside. It was actually real lived experience. So I was very chill with the whole thing. I was. But like I said, I did get worried about the helmet thing because I was like, are we. They gonna make us put the helmets

[B]

on since you know it's gonna ruin the hair?

[A]

Yeah, it's like, these are gonna be nice.

[B]

We could die. But, like, the hair would get ruined how bad? Yeah, so it's like obviously, sign, sign,

[A]

sign, sign, sign, sign, sign, sign. You can have your cowboy hat or your, you know, 19,000 hair extensions. And. And then we just. And also we had. We were on under a little bit of a time. We were a certain amount of time to get it done in the. So I was ready. I was in the mode of our show.

[B]

You were ready? You were ready.

[A]

I was riding at dawn.

[B]

I pulled up, we pulled in and. This is going to sound ridiculous. I've forgotten the height of a horse.

[A]

Have you ever gotten on a horse? Had you gotten on a horse before?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

It's a faint memory.

[B]

She's memory. But I was like, when did they get that tall?

[A]

Well, they come in different sizes.

[B]

I know, but, like, why were they all so massive? The ones here, to me were, like, so small.

[A]

Do you remember their names?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Because they were all. Because it was the Hollywood Hills. They were named for.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But for movies, it was like Draco Malfoy and.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What was mine's name?

[B]

Like, I don't know. Yeah, we should remember it. But I. So I pulled in, I was like, these are shocking. These are shockingly high.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And they said, which one would you like to ride? And one was a little bit shorter than the other. Okay, so this.

[A]

Is that why you picked that one?

[B]

That's why I picked it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I said, let me on that one. And I was hoping that that horse had been on Xanax. I needed the most chill horse. I needed him not to move.

[A]

Yeah. You wanted the carousel concept.

[B]

You wanted it. I should have gone with the carousel concept. I was regretting it. So I. Did you get on your horse first? Yours was like this beautiful black horse.

[A]

Okay, my memory is a little different. My memory was that we.

[B]

We.

[A]

I feel like someone who the creative. Creatively said, put the blonde on the dark.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

That happened, Right?

[B]

That also happened.

[A]

Okay, but also you had been sneaky. Sneaky thinking that one's shorter and 100%,

[B]

I didn't want to climb because you

[A]

also were imagining that you were going to easily just, like, lift off the ground and drop.

[B]

No, I'm going to levitate onto the horse like I was.

[A]

You got on first because I helped you. That's what happened. Remember that? I said, put your foot in the stirrup.

[B]

So, Jessica, like, I was a tiny baby toddler because your vibe, your energy

[A]

changed all of a sudden.

[B]

It did shift.

[A]

It shifted.

[B]

I was. I was so pumped. Yeah. Until I saw the hype. And then you got intimidated and I got intimidated. So it's true. Jessica was like, put your little footies right here. And I was like, okay, Mommy. And I threw my leg over and I sat on this horse.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, what I didn't know about this horse is that he hated me. This horse had smelt me from the 405 freeway.

[A]

You know, they say that about horses, by the way, that they actually.

[B]

Truly. Because I literally said to myself before I got on the horse, don't let it know you are scared.

[A]

Don't let it know. Don't let it in. You were doing, like, Jedi mind tricks as you were mounting the horse you got on. They started taking pictures.

[B]

They started taking pictures.

[A]

And what is your horse?

[B]

Well, why don't you. Why don't you describe what the optics were to you that was happening? Well, I got a fudgeing. Horse whisperer.

[A]

No, I. My energy was. My energy. I had chill energy. You had there to get a job done.

[B]

No, but watching me on the horse, you looked.

[A]

You looked. You looked uncomfortable. You looked like I. Don't you look. Your eyes were saying, help.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Your eyes were, okay, help me. Let's say your body was saying, I got this.

[B]

Why? Why was I saying help?

[A]

Honestly, you. Because you didn't want the horse to move. That's. That's. That's right.

[B]

Yeah, but the horse hated me, Jess. So it's like it wasn't just like it was moving, because I. Then the horse was just being a horse.

[A]

The horse was kind of moving its head around and you were holding the reins and you didn't like that.

[B]

The horse was not like this.

[A]

The horse like this. But you're painting a picture of, like, Hi, ho, Silver. And like, the horse, like, I don't even know what.

[B]

Hi, ho, silver.

[A]

And like, you know, was. Was.

[B]

I would have loved one of those. It would have been a great shot. This was like a completely different.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

So then the horse did not want me on it. I felt the energy from the horse. I was trying to Jedi mind back

[A]

to force I love you. You were.

[B]

They were like this. Just tell him. It's okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And apparently I was holding the little stirrups the wrong way. Right.

[A]

And I was like, what's the stirrups? The stairs were your feet. I don't think you're holding. I don't think you're holding this. I don't think you're holding the stirrups. I think you're holding the reins. Yeah, but you weren't holding them the right way.

[B]

Okay, hang on.

[A]

So you were holding the rings, literally crying.

[B]

Okay, I was holding.

[A]

Feeling a little bit intimidated. Having helped me. Eyes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I was giving you loving eyes. And I wasn't giving me loving eyes. We got this eyes. Like, I'm gonna get on, and then we're gonna have.

[B]

But it just help down there, because I'm up on a horse, and you're giving me loving eyes, and the horse is acting crazy.

[A]

You thought the horse was a dick.

[B]

I don't want to use that word.

[A]

Okay, so I give you loving eyes. I got on the horse. We took some pictures.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Your horse was a little frisky in the head and then kind of doubled up.

[B]

I said to the horse handler while I was on the horse.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I said, does he like me? Does this horse like me? Because the vibes are off. He's. And she said, yes, that horse loves you. And so I took my little pictures. I was in my position, and I was, like, smiling, and I was like, very. I was very nervous, and the horse was sort of like, remember, he wanted to trot off. He didn't even want to stand there. He wanted to trot away. And then I said, get me off. Yeah, get me off the horse.

[A]

Well, they said you wouldn't take any more. And you're like, no, I'm good. I'm good.

[B]

I was like, I just hold it.

[A]

I was like, I'm done. Yeah.

[B]

Done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I get off the horse.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, oh, my God. And I'm thinking to myself, jessica, watch out. Watch out. Because this situation. We shouldn't have signed the waivers is what I was thinking. And then what happened when you levitated your way onto your Horse and that. Who was bigger?

[A]

Yes, the bigger one. I got on the bigger one and I. He was lovely. Yeah, he was lovely. He was lovely. I liked him. He liked me. We had a little moment, and we

[B]

had so many moments, it was annoying.

[A]

We got along. I don't know what to tell you, but maybe this is the good part of us. It's the yin and the yang we now know.

[B]

I need to explain. Like, it was. Honestly, like, were you taking it personally? Yeah, I took it personally because I

[A]

came in with good intentions. I understand. But it's not like you had to go home with the horse. Like, it was just a moment. It didn't work out. We moved on. But then we went to a dawn. You moved.

[B]

Okay. So you had this incredible time with the horse. You had an amazing time with your horse was calm, chill. Jessica looked amazing. I was like, whatever she gets as she's on her horse. I turned to the lady because I was now off my horse, and I said, did that horse really like me? Because I had asked her.

[A]

Because you wanted to know the truth.

[B]

And you know what she told me?

[A]

What?

[B]

Not so much. And you know what she told me? She goes, chris Carmack, who's on Grey's Anatomy with me, TV husband, had just ridden that horse two weeks before and loved him.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Huh? Okay.

[B]

So that was not.

[A]

Did any of the other horses like you? Did you go to any of you?

[B]

No, because I felt like, honestly, they all had it out for me.

[A]

Yeah, I'm hearing that from you.

[B]

I don't know if horses, like, spread rumors, but I felt like he shit talked on his way back. Because when I would walk by that little barn, there was a lot of. Like, they would be calm. And then when I walked by, they were like, I seriously do. When I walked by, there was a lot of like. Like, there's a lot of hustle and bustle.

[A]

She went to go take some pictures by the fence, and they all kind of scattered.

[B]

There was a scattering.

[A]

They left. They didn't even want to be out.

[B]

I was so disappointed.

[A]

These are some of the challenges we have to walk through. But guess what? The pictures are great.

[B]

The pictures are. Listen, I love the pictures.

[A]

And then we moved to another little setup, and then when we went to go review the pictures.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And we're, you know, going through them again. You are so incredible. You just have the most amazing eye for, like, creating the. The set and the styling and all of it. And you just have the best ideas. And so we're looking at these pictures and they're so great and. And one's better than the other and everything else. And then I get to. Because, you know, they're all kind of in. They're in, like, sections. And I get to this one. I don't know what it was like, look, four or something like that. And I take a screenshot and I send it to you, and what do I say?

[B]

You said, did we get married? And we didn't know it. You guys, honest. It was a beautiful wedding picture. It was like I was in a white dress. We didn't think it through the moment. No, no.

[A]

And it was like we were walking hand in hand, like, looking over our shoulders. It was like. You looked post nuptial.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know, like, hey, I would have

[B]

married you in that picture.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you would have. You would have married me. I would have married you.

[B]

Yeah. We have. Now we have to show everyone that picture.

[A]

Yes, we will.

[B]

We'll show everyone the wedding picture.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't know we got married, but we got married there and then.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we got.

[B]

And we went for margaritas.

[A]

We did my favorite. And we talked about this podcast and we talked about this podcast and how excited we were. Yeah. And all the things that. Oh, my gosh. All the things that we're going to talk about.

[B]

Yeah, let's talk about. Let's. Let's tease our little messy mailbag. That's one of the things we talked about over margaritas.

[A]

Yes, we did. No, no, no. I don't think so. I think we know. I think we were talking about structure then because we were being a little nerdy. Well, let's be honest.

[B]

Your glasses. Dig. When the glasses come out. When this.

[A]

When?

[B]

Yeah, the giant Celines.

[A]

The giant. Yes. I like. You almost cover my top lip.

[B]

They're so big. You mean business when those.

[A]

I'm not around.

[B]

No, you're not.

[A]

Well, because I also can't see

[B]

in

[A]

order to write, and I'm a nerd and I carry around. I still carry a paper planner. Everyone else is digital and obviously my calendar's on my phone and blah, blah, blah. But if I really want to remember something, I have to write it down. So I also have a white. I have a little. They have to be white again, maybe.

[B]

White what?

[A]

Obsessive compulsive thing. Pardon me? Post its. I have white post it pads in all. I have intrusive.

[B]

You can't do, like a pink or a yellow.

[A]

I don't like those as much.

[B]

Oh, that's so interesting.

[A]

And I have.

[B]

And I.

[A]

It's taken me a long time in life, but I finally found my favorite pen. So I have my favorite pen. I don't send you the Amazon link anyways. So I have my favorite pen and I have white post it. And what I've noticed is I have so much on my plate. And we live in this time where you just. So much is expected of us. There's so much to do. And because we can do so much more between, you know, all the things that help us, but also make more for us, I am still human. And I have these intrusive thoughts of all the things that I have to do, and I write them down and that's how I remember them. So I have the white post it pads everywhere that I might have an intrusive thoughts. Like, I'll have them in the shower. And so I have, like, right outside the shower.

[B]

No, you don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So wait, are you like, I'm just imagining. I just need to understand this. Are you in the shower?

[A]

And then you're like, oh, no, no, no. It's not like scribbling on a pad. No, no, no, no. I get out. I. I properly tell. I'll sometimes repeat it in my head, though. I'll be like, pick up at 5, pick up at 5, pick up at

[C]

five, pick up at five.

[A]

Or I set the timer. Set the timers. I also set my timer a lot. That helps me. Anyways, we were. We were at margaritas with my paper planner.

[B]

Yeah, you could. Honestly. We had a business meeting.

[A]

Nerd.

[B]

We.

[A]

Business meeting.

[B]

Yeah. About this incredible pod. Yeah, but messy mailbag. Okay, so we did not talk about messy mail.

[A]

We talked about the things that we want to talk about, and we talked about the things that, you know, this just the incredible part of, you know, setting out, setting out to create a community. And, you know, you have an idea, but you don't know if it's gonna work. And we were, you know, just new to everything. And so when we were.

[B]

When we were fetus. Baby podcasters.

[A]

Baby podcasters.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so everything was new. And again, we had this idea that we would create a community. And we were audio only. We didn't. We didn't have the video, so we didn't have, like, you know, we were

[B]

reading all your comments, you guys, by the way, that was like, where's the video?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's here now. It's here.

[B]

But we.

[A]

We had this idea that we were gonna create a community, and we hoped we would. And then we actually Did I know. And then it took form and we could hear these voices. And there were. And then there was people that were like, you know, repeat commenters and questioners and everything else. And so I was just thinking about that, and then I was thinking about the things that we loved talking about and that, you know, sometimes to go back to the point about how there's so much to do and how I have to keep track of it and the post it pads and the pens and the intrusive thoughts and the paper planners and everything else, it's like sometimes you just want to chill and talk to a friend and, like, not have the post it pad next to you to think of the thing. Right. You just want to, like, talk. And that's what I hope this is. And what I hear back from people as what they enjoy. Like, what do you want to talk about?

[B]

Exactly. Well, that was. And this is maybe that's why I was thinking messy mailbag, because what that is, we're going to tell you. But what we were talking about over margaritas was the community and how we have set out to not just have this conversation, but have them part of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that has been our favorite thing so far.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so this is wild because deeper

[A]

down, Vega in the Valley, which is like one of the oldest Mexican restaurants in Los Angeles, and I used to go there with my mom when I was a kid.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Because we lived down the street.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they have the most amazing community that has supported this restaurant, like, for forever. And the Vega family is super. Just. It's a family business, Everything else. And they built a patio. So we were on the new patio.

[B]

Yes, we were on the new patio.

[A]

And yeah, we couldn't get a reservation because we didn't think ahead to make one.

[B]

It was better. I like, like, we. We settled up to the bar and it was great.

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[B]

So what the messy mailbag is, is once a month. I'm so excited we get to talk about this finally. I feel like we've been holding so many secrets for, like, six months. And we've been seeing all your messages, like, where are you guys? We haven't been able to say. We're like, hold on. Just hold on. Promise. We want to hear from you guys. And whether it's comments or questions or about past episodes of the podcast, you're like, wait, I want to wait. We need a. We need an update on that situation that you guys have ever done on

[A]

YouTube or in the comments on Instagram or wherever. Whatever is easiest for you let us know what you want to talk about.

[B]

DM us. Drop in the DMs.

[A]

Slip into my DMs.

[B]

Slip into the DMs. And we're going to answer them once a month. We're going to get into the messy mailbag and we're going to pop out some questions.

[A]

Yeah. We're going to dump it on, dump it out.

[B]

Dump it out.

[A]

It's getting messy, and let's get a little messy.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Life is wild.

[B]

Yeah. There's been a lot of change since our. We. Since we took a little break.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Lots of things have happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're excited to, like, share more of that.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. So we talk about how wild life is, but in a really personal way. For me, the wildest thing that's happening is on the motherhood front is that I have. I mean, he'll always be my baby, but I have a not so child. I have a. I have a high school graduate. I have. I have a kid going to college and. But I can tell you, I'm like, talk about, like, I don't know, strap. I was about to say strapping on. That sounds strange.

[B]

That sounds strange.

[A]

Buckling up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Buckling up for a ride. Yeah, sure. Why not? It's not a horse, but it's. We're riding. Yes. You don't even like horses anymore.

[B]

So I do wait before the room. Before this ends up being, like, a thing I do love, but they have something against me.

[A]

Okay. Sorry. Okay. Anyways, let's go.

[B]

That light. It got intenser for a second. Honestly. I mean, I could call a break, but we're here.

[A]

A little hot. It got a little hot.

[B]

I'm too cozy to move, but, like, for a second, I was gonna walk out. I knew you were gonna leave. Yeah. I was like.

[A]

Like, flip the table.

[B]

I was like, what is it?

[A]

Yeah, whatever. Anyways, so I feel like come September, when the kids go back to school and my kid's not going to a school that's. Oh, I don't know, we're gonna have some feelings. I'm gonna. And honestly, I. I've been. I've been proximate to some friends who have sent some kids off to college, and it's gonna. It's a little up. Why do we raise them to leave us in August? Late August. September. I think there's gonna be some tears. I'm gonna. I think I'd be really sad. I think there's gonna be a profound sense of, like, losing something. Right. You're losing that piece of your. Your mothering. And I feel like now they're growing and they're moving into their own lives and making decisions and making decisions for themselves, and I think that that's gonna be hard for me.

[B]

But we're gonna be on the ride with you. Yeah. Which is the point.

[A]

I think I'm need some help.

[B]

We're gonna be. So we're gonna be deep diving into motherhood. What I do want to talk about on the pod at some point is me as a sports mom on the sidelines. It's a journey for me.

[A]

It's really intense, you guys. We had to talk on, like, a Saturday or Sunday, and I called you, and we're not talking. Well, you weren't picking up the phone.

[B]

No.

[A]

And I was like, but I need to talk to you. Like, this was about something that I needed to talk to you about. And I said, you have to pick up the phone. And you answered like you were like a CIA operative in a very hushed tone. It was all business. There was no levity.

[B]

No.

[A]

You weren't even there. You weren't even you.

[B]

I was like, what do you want?

[A]

You were sports mom. You were in sports mom mode. What does that look like, by the way?

[B]

Well, I will do more of an episode on this. It is.

[A]

Are you on the travel team? Do you have a travel team?

[B]

It needs a. Yes, I'm about to do a travel team.

[A]

See? Did you see the face switch? Did everyone see that? Yeah, the face completely changed.

[B]

But you don't understand.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I. I am not. I, I. We will talk about this. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was a. The. I was a theater girl. I was not a sports girl. I'm in my sports mom era, and it is. It's. I have a lot of thoughts, people. I was not prepared about that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

We're gonna deep dive into motherhood.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All the things.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

We're gonna talk. This, this. This podcast, I have to say, is going to be more intimate.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think our conversations are going to feel more intimate. And this is. Has been our friendship for so long. And then.

[A]

Yeah, well, because we. Because, again, it was an idea before, but now we have proof that there's a community and there's trust.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think that we trust ourselves and we trust the community.

[B]

Yeah. We're going to talk about motherhood friendships. We are going to talk about the very strange dynamic it is to be an actress in Hollywood and also live a normal life. Like, it's a dichotomy that's like, kind of bizarre. And I feel like we're gonna peel the curtain back a little bit more on that family.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. When we were also in our, in our margarita meeting, we also. I get very, you know me, I get very. I, I, I kind of glom onto a theme sometimes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I like, I like that it kind of like gives me, like a lane and I'm like, It narrows my thoughts, and I sort of take that theme and I start looking at all these different parts of my life with that theme in mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the one that we talked about that I, I hope is going to be one of our first episodes is, is that I have my whole life thought that, that being nice and being kind were the same thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it started a whole.

[B]

It started a conversation.

[A]

Margarita conversation.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Because they're very. Turns out they're very different. And, and I thought that was really interesting. So I feel like it's. We're gonna be able to tease out things like that and talk about that. What that means.

[B]

We're gonna take, like, our margarita conversations at the bar and bring them to the pod.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

We should just bring a mic to the margaritas.

[A]

A mic? Yeah, Maybe like a margarita holder next to the mic. Just a straw.

[B]

Just a straw.

[A]

A straw that goes next to the. I like this for us.

[B]

Yeah, I like this too. I love this.

[A]

We bought Cadillac margaritas that night.

[B]

We did, yeah. Which you hadn't had before.

[A]

No, I had, I had, I had.

[C]

Oh, you.

[A]

But you got it and I forgot about it.

[B]

If you guys don't know what a Cadillac margarita is. It's my favorite mark.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is the thing you added at the shot on the side? They make the margarita.

[A]

It makes it more alcoholy. It has alcohol.

[B]

Yeah. It's more booze. It's more booze for your book. It's a. It's more grand marnier. Is that how you say it?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you pour it on top of.

[B]

So good.

[A]

Yeah. So we had Cadillac margaritas. I also think that we like to talk about. We like to talk about the fun stuff, too. We like to talk about. We like to talk about the glam. We like to talk about, like, the glam stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To the tips and tricks.

[B]

Yeah. We want all the tips and tricks.

[A]

We want all the tips and tricks.

[B]

One thing I definitely want to talk about in this very first episode is that we will have guests on our show.

[A]

Yes. Yes. And friends that are our real life

[B]

friends that have been real. Ride a dawnish for us through Life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the conversations, I think, are going to feel deeper and more intimate.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And some of these may be very, very familiar faces. Jewel, you know who I want on?

[A]

I feel like I know what you're gonna say.

[B]

Do you? Let me see.

[A]

Say it.

[B]

Stefania.

[A]

Oh, I thought you say my mom.

[B]

Oh, I do want your mom.

[A]

Mom.

[B]

But Stefania needs to come on.

[A]

And Stefania is always the best.

[B]

She's the best.

[A]

Because, by the way, we all. It's not like we're not going to

[B]

be talking about a laundry list of people. Yeah, we actually saw a bunch of people last night.

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[C]

We did.

[A]

Because we have this whole collision of, like, we have all this. We have a huge history of grays together.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We have the whole new influx of. Of 911 Nashville and that world.

[B]

We have, by the way. Like, when I'm meeting people, like, I feel like I know them from.

[A]

I know. I was so, so happy when you got to meet, you know, some people that I work with.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then they got to just. You guys got to, you know, complain about me.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah, I got to complain. I was like, sucks, right?

[A]

I mean, she's rough.

[B]

Yeah. You guys have to stay tuned for. So our episode two, we are going to be diving into exactly what happened in New York City this week.

[A]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[B]

It needs its own standalone because I have a lot of thoughts and feelings

[A]

how we woke up together.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, the. The. Yes, exactly. We let you guys know that we woke up together. There were still. You said there was still gummy. Was there a gummy bear, like, literally in the.

[A]

Like in my hair? Probably.

[B]

Yeah, it's probably slightly.

[A]

I mean, we had rooms next to each other. We wanted to have a dog.

[B]

To be clear, we did have separate rooms.

[A]

Yes, well, we wanted them to have a connecting door, but that was not possible. And New York City, if you don't know, this has very. Is famous for having very small living spaces. And that includes hotel rooms.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So our hotel rooms.

[B]

So somehow we merged.

[A]

Tiny and. Yeah.

[B]

Merged into just one. The gummy bear room.

[A]

Well, yeah, we came home for, like, the. You know, like the post. The post night wrap up.

[B]

Yes. So we need to explain. We need to break down how we

[A]

got a show from one of those nights. Like do a. Break it down. Like. Like do the show from, like, after a night. No, that'd be messy.

[B]

That'd be a messy. How much? Yeah, that would be the messiest mailbag. You know what? Fudge it. Let's do it, guys. Let's Fucking do it.

[A]

I don't know. Why not? I'm just saying I'm down.

[B]

I'm down, honestly. Because then you're going to get us in real time.

[A]

Yeah. With all the things.

[B]

Oh, my God. There's so much to say, you guys. We're going to say it. We're gonna say it. Stay tuned for episode two.

[A]

Stay tuned for episode two.

[B]

Okay, you guys.

[A]

And hold on to your reins, not your stirrups, because I don't know if

[B]

that's like, go on your feet. I gotta figure out what my move is for this podcast.

[A]

It's like, because you've got moves.

[B]

I knew you were gonna say that. You guys, we. We've done it. We've sat here. We've. We've just recorded the first episode of Rewind Adonisch. And it's. It's like we're. I don't know if you guys can feel how excited we are, but we're so excited. It's been a struggle to keep this.

[A]

I know. I know.

[B]

Keep this quiet.

[A]

I know. I know. And we've been wanting to bring it to you all, and. And. And now here we are. And you never get the first one back.

[B]

You never get.

[A]

So guess what?

[B]

We did it. We did it. Stay tuned for all of our incredible episodes. We are deep diving into all the things. You guys. We will be reading your DMs.

[A]

Yes. Please slide into our DMs.

[B]

Slide into the DMs. Also, like, tell us stuff if there's something you're like, please, can you guys talk about this?

[A]

Yes. It just makes me smiley. I sort of feel a little dumb. Like, I'm like, you know how. Because I feel simple when they just smile. I feel like I've been doing that a little bit. I'm like, I know.

[B]

Because we're so giddy, you guys. This has been like. Like, literally, I feel like it's been like six months coming.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And planning and everything.

[A]

And we get to be together. So we won't be together all the time because obviously, you know, I mean, there's a lot of travel involved in. There's definitely a lot in my life right now. But.

[B]

But we'll.

[A]

We'll be together as much as we can.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when you. When you come here and when I come to Los Angeles and maybe we can get you to Nashville for a little bit.

[B]

Yeah. But we will have every episode on YouTube, you guys.

[A]

Yes. We are here every single day.

[B]

You get to watch us. I'm not always gonna look like this. It's gonna be what it is. The vibe of the day. Might be a messy bun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It might be some PJ for sure. But we're gonna. We're gonna.

[A]

Are you wearing last night's makeup still? Is it just me?

[B]

Just you.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm not disgusting. Right.

[A]

Okay. But here's the other thing that's gonna be quite interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. It actually always surprises me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You learned something new about me today, didn't you? Did you know about my post its before?

[B]

I didn't know about the post its. No. I was. I was racking my brain. I'm like, this is gonna be something. Hello,

[A]

Beautiful mind. Music was playing in the background. She was like, yeah, no, that's right.

[B]

I honestly, I started like sweating a little bit. It was like yellow. I was like strapped. Like, she told me something I didn't know about the post itself. Yeah, I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But now I'm like, they make sense, guys. I'm make sense. Honestly.

[C]

Really?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh. I was gonna. I'm really. I like, saw a whole like, post it line in my future. I feel like it should make sense for everyone. Everyone should have these post its.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

Okay, fine.

[B]

I. I'm not sure about the color

[A]

and talk to those horses about you. The ones that we should talk.

[B]

Honestly.

[A]

I'm gonna tell them. I'm gonna say how I felt. Yeah.

[B]

I bet you got there early.

[A]

Oh, like maybe you did. Giving them treats like I had a little carrot in my pocket. Wait, a little sugar cube? That's what I showed on my shoulder?

[B]

Yeah. A little sugar in your boots.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we're gonna giddy up week after

[B]

week and get it going because we ride at dawnish.

[C]

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