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Jessica Capshaw
Hello Call it crew, and welcome to another episode of Call it what it is part two with Ms. Kimberly Williams Paisley. We actually have a lot of personal questions now, too. On your Instagram, you went through what you do on a day off and this is the list I got. Meditate, work out, dyes your grays, infrared therapy, studies your lines and walks your dogs. Is this a. Is this a typical sort of day representation of a day for you?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, I think so. Like an ideal day in the life when I have time to do all those things. I'm also, like, returning emails and, like, there's a lot of work stuff. And we have a nonprofit. I do a lot of stuff with that daily.
Jessica Capshaw
Can you talk about that?
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Talk about that?
Camille Ludington
Yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
We have a nonprofit. It's called the Store. And we're about to open our second location.
Camille Ludington
It's insane.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
So cool. You gotta come see.
Camille Ludington
Yes, I want to.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It's really awesome. It's like a cause I grew up. Like, my mom used to deliver meals on wheels, and once in a while we go to, like, a soup kitchen, and we'd. We'd give people. On Thanksgiving, we'd give people, like, turkey and cranberry sauce. And. And what I remember as a kid is that people kind of were resentful about that. And I've learned more about what was going on, like, in the years since. And so our vision with the store is really to give people dignity in choice, in getting to, like, come and shop for what they need and what their preferences are, and to have their kids see their. The parents in a position of power, in a position of choice. And. And. And I'm also, like, we've been to the food banks where, like, filling backpacks and stuff like that and like, with snacks. And it's not food that I would want to feed my kids sometimes. It's, like, very processed and stuff like that. And it's not necessarily what they'd want to eat. And also, it kind of looks industrial. It doesn't always look, like warm and welcoming. So our vision with the store is to have, like, a quaint grocery that's, like, welcoming and friendly. And, you know, the staff, they know you. We have amazing volunteers that come every week, and it's a little community. And these. And these are custom. They're our customers. They come in and they shop, and we always have produce. And they have, like, a certain allocation, you know, depending on the size of the family. That's how much food they can get. So we have farming partners, and they give us produce. So they can always take as much produce as they want because we want to.
Jessica Capshaw
Like, so how would someone get access to this if they need it?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Um, so we have, like, a ton of referral partners around Nashville. If someone comes in off the street and is just hungry on the day, like, we'll give an emergency supply to somebody, but. But then we have to, like, put them in the system. And actually we have a waiting list right now. We're full. So that's why we're second location.
Camille Ludington
Because we haven't talked about this. Is like, is this something that you and Brad built in with, with the idea of being able to scale it out?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, I mean, we would. It's taken a lot. We actually opened in the pandemic. We opened right after the tornadoes hit Nashville and like destroyed. Well, or maybe it was right before. It was right before destroyed all these homes. And so we opened our doors. We never got to have ribbon cutting because we were just going to get our ducks in a row. So we opened our doors. Then the tornadoes hit. So suddenly we're like, oh, I guess we do disaster relief now because we had all these supplies. So we started doing disaster relief. And then weeks later, the pandemic happened and suddenly they were like, oh, you can't go out and shop. So we had to close our doors. And we were. So we decided, okay, I guess we do deliveries to seniors now. So we got cars, we got volunteers, we got a van, and we started going out. So we've had to think on the fly, but we've still not ribbon cutting our official, like opening.
Camille Ludington
It's so amazing if you took all the information that you've gotten from setting it up and were able to hand like the booklet so that you could have different chapters. Because if every community could make this happen, then they should.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Well, we've had a ton of people reach out and say they want to, but it takes money and resources. We partnered with Belmont University when we started and that helped so much because they have a volunteer base. They gave us the land that we built on for this new location. It's gonna be next to Centennial Hospital. That's our partner for that one. And so you need to, you need to find resources where you are and, and you have three times.
Camille Ludington
You have three full time jobs.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
This is so incredible. I love that you're opening a second store and that's also going to be in Nashville, you said.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, that's in Nashville. And we'd love to open a third one in North Nashville. And we want to do what you're saying, like, we'd love to. There's been a lot of interest from a group in LA that wants to, um, Brad's from West Virginia. There's a group in West Virginia that wants to. But one thing at a time.
Camille Ludington
Everywhere. It would be amazing.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Everywhere.
Jessica Capshaw
We had a lot of questions for you about Diane Keaton.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Oh, I know.
Camille Ludington
It is really. It's been. It's funny I told you this earlier that on my phone and the right hand corner, a news Item came up and it said something, you know, Diane Keaton. And then it was like, dot, dot, dot. And I thought, oh, she's done another movie or she's got another thing. I thought, nothing.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I know.
Camille Ludington
And then later in the day, I was on social media and I saw your post and I was. I stopped. It was a sit down moment.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, me too.
Camille Ludington
How did you find out? When did you find out?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I was on the peloton. You know, I was just like going through my day and looking at the phone and all of a sudden I got a text from a friend just saying, oh, I'm so sad about Diane. I was like, yeah, it was a. It was a stop everything and like, get on the floor kind of moment. What? She just was such a inspiration for me, such a big part of my life.
Camille Ludington
Well, you met her when you were 19.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I met her when I was 19 and I was a huge fan.
Camille Ludington
And you were. And you were auditioning for Father.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I was auditioning for Father the Father.
Camille Ludington
Because that was the movie that you did together. And you did not just one, but two, three. Sorry.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Once in the pandemic. Well, it wasn't an official, like, full length, but we did. That was the last time, I think that I saw her was on Zoom during the pandemic. I may have seen her once after that, but yeah.
Camille Ludington
So you went to go audition.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
When you were 19 years old and met one of your idols. Yes.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
And she more than lived up to it. She was just so generous and so funny and wise. Just like wonderful. And especially on the second film, I felt like we really bonded and, you know, just laughed like you and I do. Like, just like the humor clicked and it was so fun to be on set when she was on set.
Jessica Capshaw
What's one of your fondest memories of her?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
We went she once. She was a swap meet person.
Camille Ludington
Well, she was such a design enthusiast. I mean, she made books about design and.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yes. So, yeah. So interesting. Her taste and her fashion. And her fashion was incredible. She just created that look.
Camille Ludington
Oh, the Annie hall and all. And her creation, I mean, because I'm gonna say it was a creation. I mean, that was her. And this menswear.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
Maybe Lauren Hutton had kind of dipped into it before, but, like, it was this unbelievably original version of a modern woman.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. And sexy and confident.
Camille Ludington
Yes.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. So anyway, one day, I think it was like, right after, during Father the Bride two, she said, I'm going to the swap meet this weekend. You want to go? And I was like, yeah, And I am not. I'd never been a swap meet person. I didn't know how to do it, you know? And she knew. She knew that. And she showed up, and it was like a hot day. And she showed up in her full Diane Keaton, like, you know, her suit, top hat. Her hat and her necktie. She might have even had gloves, you know.
Camille Ludington
Oh, yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
She showed up as Diane Keaton and she had like a. Like, open up cart in her trunk, you know, she went and opened up her trunk and she had her swap meet cart. And she's like, okay. And she gave me $5.
Camille Ludington
Stop.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
And she's like, go buy something. And I'm gonna go buy something, too. And we went with her sister. I'm pretty sure it was her sister. And she went off shopping, and I went off and I was like, what am I supposed to buy? How am I supposed to know? Like, what Diane Keaton would think is cool? And I think I remember buying, like, a plastic flower. I don't know. What could I find for $5? And we swapped me a lot. I know we met back up around, like, 20 minutes later. And her cart was full. Yeah, Full of stuff. She had, like, a clown painting they just never would have picked out. But she found treasures.
Camille Ludington
Yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I just thought it was so fun.
Camille Ludington
I believe that about her. Yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
We were in an earthquake together once, too. That was.
Jessica Capshaw
Oh, wait. What? Tell me.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
We were at a restaurant. We were having lunch, and we were sitting in a restaurant in la, like, at this tiny little table, and an earthquake hit. And she's like, we have to get under the table.
Jessica Capshaw
We got under.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
We got under this tiny little table.
Camille Ludington
Under the table with Diane Keaton.
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Jessica Capshaw
That could be a scene in Father of the Bride, I feel like.
Commercial Announcer
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
Oh, for sure.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
Did she teach.
Camille Ludington
Was there anything that you remember her teaching you?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I remember I had a lot of anxiety during those two movies. I mean, I was 19 on the first one. It was the first major role I had. And Diane was like a mother figure to me who was very safe. So I did. I talked to her about my anxiety. I had a lot of dreams. I'm a big dreamer, literally. But I would have, like, weird nightmares and weird. And I think it was like me working out my anxiety in the middle of the night, and she would analyze dreams with me. So, I mean, really, like, she was just this kind listening ear.
Camille Ludington
Does she have some good stuff about anxiety? We talk about it a lot.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Honestly, I think it was something that she probably dealt with too. So. No, she didn't have easy answers. I think she had people she trusted that she talked to about it too.
Jessica Capshaw
Like the lived experience, how to navigate it, just living with it.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Sometimes it just helps to talk to someone who's been through it too.
Camille Ludington
Well, it's funny because these are the reasons I love social media, is that when it gets to know you, it sends you the things that it knows you want. And Charlie Rose put on a snippet of an interview he had with her and I saw it last night and I thought it was so interesting because he asked her if she had. I'm remembering it as he asked her if she had any regrets or anything that she wished she'd done. And she was so grounded. And she took his question very seriously. And she said, I wish that I had had more confidence to do the thing. Like I wish that there were my lack of confidence or my worry kept me from doing things I wish I had. Yeah. And it was, it was because of the context of knowing that she'd passed that I thought it was almost like a voice coming from beyond.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
It makes me like, makes me kind of like when you hear from people who, when you're hearing, when you're seeing or reading people whose. Who have passed and their. And their messages come to you, I think that it's like they carry a different weight.
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Camille Ludington
And it's available right off the shelf.
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Camille Ludington
Which interestingly sort of segues into something that you and I have talked about that you've gone through. But when I read this quote I thought, oh my gosh, I hadn't thought about it in this way. You went through a period of time where you could not speak and I read a quote where you said that I felt invisible and that you didn't want to, that it led you to a place where you actually felt like oh my gosh, if this is my reality and I can't speak anymore, I don't want to leave things unsaid and how it ties into just, like, what I just said about Diane, where it's like, when we pass, when we think we've lost our voice, like, what are the things? Because I do think you should live every day of your life like it's your last. And I believe in all of that, and I believe in showing up every day and as your best self. But in that moment when you lost your voice and you were thinking that, like, what are the things that could be left unsaid? What were you focusing on or what were you thinking about when you said that?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I think that I am a person who tends to put other. Other people's needs before my own. And I think I was really in a pattern of doing that and just going, well, it's fine. I can adapt. I can adjust. And honestly, the thing that happened with us, the small W, that the W.
Camille Ludington
Was the letter E, I wasn't wrong. I just misstepped.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Right? But whatever it was, the thing that I was like, ow. And I think the old me would have been like, it's fine. It's not a big deal. Don't bring anything up. Like, don't ruffle any feather. And the new version of me is like, yeah, but that kind of hurts. So I think I need to just say something. And that comes out of two years of being, like, maybe no one's gonna ever hear me. Maybe I am invisible. Maybe my. Like, how am I gonna have my voice be heard? And so practicing for two years. Well, over the course of two years, to speak up and if people can't hear me, to wait until it's quieter and they can, to write, to have my voice be heard that way. You know, to ask for what I need. I would like to sit on this side of you so that I can turn my head to the right, because I have more volume that way. And, like, even little things like that, like just speaking up for what I need to be heard and stepping out for me and, like, you know, how can I take care of myself best? And that's what came out of that period of feeling invisible that makes so much sense.
Jessica Capshaw
I have a question. If you could have not had that experience, would you get rid of it if you had that sort of, like, crazy, magical control over your life? Or are you kind of glad that you went through that? If that makes sense?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, that's a good question. Do you know who Kate Bowler is? She has a podcast, too. Anyway, I was listening to one of her episodes once, and she had this rabbi on who. Anyway, she went. She's going through health stuff, and. And they were talking about, like, is it worth it? All this stuff? Is it worth it?
Jessica Capshaw
No.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Is it worth less? No. So that's how I feel. You know, Was it worth going through it? No. But I am hell bent on making a meal out of it, making it be worth something. I want to take something from this experience, and I have so much that I've gained from this experience.
Jessica Capshaw
I think it's kind of magical, actually, like, hearing that story and then you thought, you know, maybe you'd have to never. You'd be never acting again.
Camille Ludington
And.
Jessica Capshaw
And now you're cast on a show. But the interesting part to me, which is, like, just kind of tingly, is that the fact that your role on the show is the voice that people hear calling in like, you're.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
No kidding.
Jessica Capshaw
Like, isn't that bizarre? Yes, it's. So I've just realized. I mean, maybe you guys have talked about this before. I'm just realizing it, hearing it.
Camille Ludington
No, that's such a great point. It's exactly right.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It's a great point. And that has hit me. The irony's not lost on me that that's the primary way in for my character is her voice.
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Jessica Capshaw
And I've actually, your voice is the most important on the show, of course.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. And I love that. And I've gotten compliments on my voice. And my voice sounds different.
Camille Ludington
Sounds a great voice.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It's very calm.
Jessica Capshaw
In what way has it changed?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It's different. It's quieter. It's deeper. For a while, it just kept getting higher and higher. Until then it just kind of turned whispery. And so it's not as loud. It's not as loud.
Camille Ludington
How far between you regaining your new voice and coming onto the show? What was the delta?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I got surgery in August of last year.
Sleep Apnea PSA Voice
Wow.
Camille Ludington
And then that's when you started.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Long ago, right? It's not long. And actually a couple months or maybe like a month after surgery, I did. I hosted this reality dating show called Farmer wants a Wife, which was. Yeah, I love reality show. Have you seen Farmer wants a Wife?
Jessica Capshaw
I definitely saw the commercials with Farmer wants a wife, the trailers.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
That is also a show where I did so much voiceover because I had to narrate all of the action. So that was another one where. And I was so scared going into that job because I just hadn't been able to trust that my voice would be there for so long that I didn't know what it would be like in a loud room or with all the girls that are on the show making noise. If I had to quiet everyone down, how would I get through it? And that was. I had to face some major fears. And same with coming on our show. I had a bit of imposter syndrome in the beginning and just had to settle into it. And now I feel great. I feel great.
Camille Ludington
You are great on the show.
Jessica Capshaw
I would want to hear this voice right now If I called 91 1. I think it's so soothing. You're like the perfect cast for it.
Camille Ludington
Yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I just mean I'm having a really good time. I'm like, very. It feels like home. It feels really nice.
Camille Ludington
Well, you do get to be home, Kim. Yes.
Jessica Capshaw
Shot in my backyard.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
So basically.
Camille Ludington
What is something that you.
Jessica Capshaw
Auditioned for and almost got but didn't?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
There were, like, some action adventure ones that, like, Ed Zwick and Marshall Herskovitz did a long time ago. Buffy the Vampire Slayer got the part.
Camille Ludington
Oh. Sarah Michelle Geller got the part.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Oh, there was also. No, I can't. Those are like. I let them go, so it's hard for me to remember them.
Camille Ludington
Ugh. Boring.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I know it's boring.
Jessica Capshaw
Jess and I like to hold on and then hold a seance for them.
Camille Ludington
Burns in a fire.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I'm kidding.
Camille Ludington
Well, so great for them. No, but I. So, But I do always say this.
Jessica Capshaw
I do say this.
Camille Ludington
I say this to people when they call me during terrible breakups or when they don't get the part or, you know, when whatever disappointment comes their way. I always say. And it's so far, it's true. I don't know when. Whether it's like five days later or five weeks later, five years later, so on, so on. But you do end up sort of writing that person or that thing a thank you note because with some perspective. What, not getting it got you for sure. And I. I mean, yeah, I can. I mean, there are years.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Have you already talked about them on the show?
Camille Ludington
Yeah, we've talked about that.
Jessica Capshaw
But, like, Jess's are more impressive than mine because mine was just a lot of, like, cw.
Camille Ludington
I'm. You just had a steady job for longer.
Jessica Capshaw
No, that's not true. I think I. I think that my. I can't think of anything super high profile that I. I auditioned for Juno, but I didn't know that that was going to take off and be what it was at the time, which would have been incredible. Obviously.
Camille Ludington
Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
But no, we, We. We ask this question a lot and it's kind of in. It's kind of amazing what people have yeah, it is.
Camille Ludington
And you know, it's funny, I, I find that people do get a little bit, like, they're right. Like, like, like, you know, like, is that. But it was funny. We were talking to Kim Raver and, and, and this is crazy because Kim and Camilla and I have been friends for a long time. And Kim, when Kim came on the show, we became fast friends and everything else. And she never ever told me that one of hers was for. Was for Minority Report.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Oh, wow.
Camille Ludington
Like, how she never told me that. I still don't understand. It's like she. And she really got like, up to the, like up to it.
Jessica Capshaw
Like in the room with Tom Cruise.
Camille Ludington
Yes. Like, got the.
Jessica Capshaw
Oh, my God.
Camille Ludington
She never said a word. But it's like, I think we. I, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what the psychology behind it is, but I think that if, when we don't get the part, we just kind of go, well, it wasn't ours and we're not gonna talk about it.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, yeah. And that's why I'm drawing. Answer that question. I promise you there have been really.
Camille Ludington
Really sexy ones that she's going to tell me later.
Jessica Capshaw
By the cast chairs, by the casters yesterday, by the way, our casters were.
Camille Ludington
All in a, like in a semi circle. And it turns out that I just bring more to set than anyone else. And I had to have a podium.
Jessica Capshaw
Next to my chair so that I.
Camille Ludington
Could put all my.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
In high maintenance over here. Had an office. The rest of us had chairs.
Jessica Capshaw
My God, that reminds me that we used to work with. Used to set up like 20 computers. Oh, this is a cute question. Did you take any. Cute. Did you? Wait, no, I didn't hear you.
Camille Ludington
Jesse Williams.
Jessica Capshaw
Yeah, Jesse. I mean, like, Jesse. I love him and, but he would, it was like he would be taking business meetings in the chat. That's why he's got so much going on.
Camille Ludington
He had Cammy set up. He had Cami screens.
Jessica Capshaw
100. He was filming a show as we were filming the show.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Oh, nice multitasking.
Camille Ludington
I'm like, but what's that laptop for? Wait, but what's that one for?
Jessica Capshaw
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Okay, Plan B is emergency contraception you take after unprotected sex. Think of it as backup birth control. It works by temporarily delaying ovulation to help prevent pregnancy before it starts.
Camille Ludington
And it's available right off the shelf.
Jessica Capshaw
Yep, it's at all major retailers in all 50 US states. No prescription ID or age requirement.
Camille Ludington
Ah, together we've got this.
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Jessica Capshaw
This is a really cute question, so I want to make sure we ask it. Did you take any keepsakes home from the father of the bride set?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I actually took a gift from Diane. It wasn't a gift from. It wasn't like a prop in the. But she did give me this little. She probably got it at a swap meet. Just this little guy pin. Just an odd little thick figure like guy pin. So I have that.
Camille Ludington
Like to put on your lapel.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Uh huh. Aww. Yeah. So sweet. And. And I did take a basketball home, but I'm really embarrassed to say because I had the basketball team. I'm embarrassed to say I have no idea which basketball it is. We have like a bunch of basketball.
Camille Ludington
You lost the father of the bride.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I did.
Jessica Capshaw
Oh my God. That's absolutely amazing.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
Okay. Okay. This is. Oh, well, this is gonna be great because we were just talking about it yesterday. Who was your biggest celebrity crush when you started in Hollywood and did you ever meet them?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
We talked about this.
Camille Ludington
Well, we talked about what I'll get to after you answer this question.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Who is my biggest celebrity crush and did I ever meet them?
Camille Ludington
Your baby, Kim. You're 19. You do this huge movie now. You're like. I mean, everyone's looking at Kimberly Williams because you're not Kimberly Williams Paisley yet.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yes.
Camille Ludington
And they're like, ooh, she is the total package because I saw that movie and oh, she's cute. Okay. You could go out with anyone, right? Who did you crush on?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I feel like you're leading me to something. No. Who did you crush on? I honestly crushed on my co star, George Newbern. I had a crush on him. He was so cute. He was super cute and super Mario.
Camille Ludington
A crush on him. Yeah. Well, Marion would make him less cute.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
Oh, he was married when you guys were shooting.
Camille Ludington
Oh, no.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
So married.
Jessica Capshaw
I got very excited for a second.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. And then I did date someone at the studio.
Camille Ludington
Oh, okay.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Which is interesting. We're talking about who I had a crush on. Her celebrity crush.
Camille Ludington
Mine was Michael J. Like, I loved Michael J. Fox.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Oh, yeah.
Camille Ludington
I think was cute.
Jessica Capshaw
Mine was Jonathan Taylor Thomas.
Camille Ludington
Oof.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I actually. I thought Rob Lowe was really hot when I was younger.
Camille Ludington
He's a very handsome man.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
No, that's Tom Cruise. That's Tom Cruise. Tom. I thought Tom Cruise. Was really hot.
Jessica Capshaw
Did you ever meet Tom Cruise?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I did. I met him very briefly.
Camille Ludington
Did he live up to the cuteness? Hotness?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, sure. I mean, but by then, the Ed had gone. Yeah, a little bit.
Camille Ludington
Peak. Tom Cruise hotness for me was Jerry Maguire.
Jessica Capshaw
You talk about Jerry Maguire all the time, Jess.
Camille Ludington
Most romantic movie.
Jessica Capshaw
I actually think he's really cute in War of the Worlds, too. I like him in a baseball hat fighting aliens.
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Camille Ludington
He's got a very winning.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. I also did have a crush on Rob Lowe way back. Yeah. And I got to meet him and work with him.
Camille Ludington
Did you have a crush on him when you worked with him? No, it had passed. It's funny how these things pass.
Jessica Capshaw
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
I also thought Rob Lowe was super. I mean, everyone. That was insane. Almost fire.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
I was gonna say that was like.
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Jessica Capshaw
Never.
Camille Ludington
Judd. Nelson. Nelson. He was. I could appreciate that he was cute, but he wasn't my thing. Andrew McCarthy, all soft, sweet. I worked with him later, and you know what? I didn't have a crush on him. So it passed.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
It's funny how these things fast.
Jessica Capshaw
What is your favorite mo. What was your favorite movie to film and why?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Every film. Not every film, but many of the films that I filmed, I loved them for a certain reason. There were some films that turned out to be terrible, but I met somebody that was amazing. There was a movie I did with Patrick Stewart, by the way, that you don't ever have to see. But it was wonderful to work with him, and he became a friend for a while and stuff, and that was amazing. But honestly, Father, the Bride was really. That changed my life. It was a classic movie. It's something that people talk to me about every day.
Camille Ludington
And you could rewatch it like it was the first time.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
You and Chris were talking. You were telling Chris that he needed to watch a movie last night.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Do you want to Troll two? Oh, gosh. Have you ever heard this movie Troll two? Are you kidding?
Jessica Capshaw
Absolutely. I know all those songs.
Camille Ludington
Do you know I've never seen Troll 2. Why isn't it called Troll? Does none of it makes sense? And there's not a Troll one.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
There's not a troll one. And have you ever watched the documentary about the making of Troll 2?
Jessica Capshaw
No, I haven't done a deep dive.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Do yourself a favor. Did Chris say, I hope so?
Camille Ludington
Okay, I hope she really was selling it hard to Chris last night.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I'm. I'm. Was it too hard? Did I ever sell it?
Camille Ludington
Well, I mean, no, actually, because it made me feel like maybe I should watch it. But I knew that it was not going to be my thing.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It's not the kind of thing. You should go sit down and watch it by yourself. It's the kind of thing like you need to get some trolls.
Camille Ludington
Gets cozy at home, turns on Netflix, and gets into Troll 2.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
No, you need to be with friends. You need to come over to our house. What we need to do is have a troll 2 party and it'll be a double feature. Because I think the documentary is called the Greatest Film. Or the Greatest Worst Film Ever Made. I think that's what it's called.
Jessica Capshaw
Is that really what it's called? My kids loved that movie.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Roll two. You're not thinking of the animated.
Jessica Capshaw
I thought you were talking about trolls. This.
Camille Ludington
Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
No, no, no.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
There's a 10 troll in town.
Jessica Capshaw
Troll. You're recommending Troll, too?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Listen, this is a movie. This is a movie.
Jessica Capshaw
Catch on quick enough.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Just look at the poster and you'll get the idea.
Camille Ludington
I'm not gonna pull it up right now. I'm telling you, once you. Once you get up, once you all.
Jessica Capshaw
I'm gonna say, be like a B horror movie, because I love a B horror movie.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
A good D horror movie sounds better.
Jessica Capshaw
Are you kidding? Oh, wait, they pulled up. Oh, hang on, hang on. I've gotten the. They just pulled up the post.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Made by an Italian filmmaker who didn't speak any English, and yet the film is written in English.
Jessica Capshaw
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Kimberly Williams Paisley
Do a watch party, though. Don't watch.
Camille Ludington
Yeah, no, I'm not going to.
Jessica Capshaw
It looks like it needs to be watched with somebody else. Absolutely.
Camille Ludington
Okay, the fan question next is on your first date with Brad.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Camille Ludington
Who made the first move?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
He did.
Camille Ludington
Oh, he did.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
He said, stop me if I'm out of line.
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Jessica Capshaw
Oh, stop it. That's so romantic.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Isn't that sweet?
Camille Ludington
Yes, that's very sweet.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
Okay, I have one last question myself. Wait.
Camille Ludington
But that leads into the next one because I actually think a good one, because I saw a snippet before we met. I don't even think I told you this. I saw a snippet of him performing on stage right before Mother's Day, and he was doing a concert, and for some reason, I guess he hadn't turned off his phone. His cell phone.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Oh, yes.
Camille Ludington
And he heard it ring, and he. And he took the call during this conversation during the concert with like 20,000 people, you know, watching him. Maybe 40. Who knows? I don't know. And he picked up the phone, and it was one. I don't know which one of your son.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Jasper.
Camille Ludington
It was Jasper. And he answered the phone and had a full conversation with him.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
He did.
Camille Ludington
That was very, very funny.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It was not staged or planned, but.
Camille Ludington
It was very funny.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It was funny. It was the night before Mother's Day. I was asleep like a normal person at 8pm I'm the only person in my house that goes to bed early.
Jessica Capshaw
I go to bed so early too. I'll be honest.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. And by the way, early at our house is like 11. My kids go to bed way later, and so does Brad. But Brad likes to decorate for Mother's Day and birthdays, and, like, he's just likes to decorate.
Camille Ludington
This is where we will bond. Yeah. Go on. So does Capshaw. Go on.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
You do.
Camille Ludington
Oh, my God.
Jessica Capshaw
Yeah. She's a big decorator.
Camille Ludington
I am too.
Jessica Capshaw
But, yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
That'S what he's all about.
Camille Ludington
It's gonna be amazing.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Okay. And so anyway, he really wanted to decorate for Mother's Day, and he was on stage, and so he had to put Jasper in charge. So Jasper is calling him to find out where the decorations were, and he's.
Camille Ludington
Talking him through it, but it's like, I got people waiting on me, you know, at this concert I'm at.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It was really cute.
Camille Ludington
I'm gonna have to call you back.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It was really cute.
Camille Ludington
So is he funny at home? Does he pull off this on charming hilariousness at home as well?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Not always. Not always. We're gonna have dinner with him tonight. Possibly.
Camille Ludington
I mean, it's a mystery whether or not he's gonna show up. And I'm really excited.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
By the way, another Jessica Capshaw fact is that you have impeccable table manners.
Camille Ludington
Do I?
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Have you noticed that?
Camille Ludington
I didn't even know.
Jessica Capshaw
I. I haven't noticed. But I do know that her. She has a parenting thing where she likes her kids, and I. I adopted it. We talked about this in Paris. You're like, I like my. I like to teach my kids table etiquette, where it's like, if you're done, your knife and fork go together on the plate. And so I started to do that. Right.
Camille Ludington
Do you remember this conversation?
Jessica Capshaw
Yeah, I started to do that.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Wow.
Jessica Capshaw
When you're eating with Justin, Capture I.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Just noticed that, like, my elbows were on the table, and I'm, like, eating the fork with the tongs going up, you know? And I'm, like, probably talking with my mouth full. And Jessica's got the fork upside down.
Jessica Capshaw
Oh, yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
And she's cutting, and she's eating it upside. I was like, damn, girl.
Jessica Capshaw
Damn, she's classy.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
So you need to know, Brad Paisley, not the best table man.
Camille Ludington
Oh, okay.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
But he's a sweetheart, and he's so funny.
Camille Ludington
I can't wait. Like I said, I can't.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I don't hold it against him.
Camille Ludington
Well, I'm trying not to get my hopes up in case.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah, definitely not come. And they shouldn't be up anyway.
Camille Ludington
Just.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Let's lower the bar.
Camille Ludington
Oh, yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Okay. Not coming.
Jessica Capshaw
Anyway, we have time, apparently, for one last question. So here's my question. I'm sure you're asked all the time about what your favorite song is of your husband's. Is he ever writing a song, though? And he plays it for you, and you say, that's terrible. Start over.
Camille Ludington
Yes.
Jessica Capshaw
Stop it.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Oh, for sure. And it'll be about me, and it's like a love story or love song or something. And I'm like, it's too schmaltzy.
Camille Ludington
Stop.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. Yeah.
Jessica Capshaw
I love this. Oh, my God. That's absolutely amazing.
Camille Ludington
Well, that's also an incredible achievement for a recovering slash former people pleaser.
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Camille Ludington
That's wonderful that you can say that.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yes. Thank you. Thank you.
Camille Ludington
That shows true intimacy also.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. And he trusts me. Like, he'll ask me my opinion on songs, and I. And I give it to him, and sometimes it's hard. It's hard to tell them the truth.
Camille Ludington
Yeah.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
It could be bad.
Camille Ludington
Right? But I really mean it. Like, having. Being. Being in a relationship where you feel. You know, where you feel like you can say this thing I'm gonna say might disappoint you, and. And say it anyways. That's fantastic.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
I will say he's a brilliant songwriter. Like, I really. I rarely tell him I don't like it.
Jessica Capshaw
It's.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
And. And actually, I know he can take it because often if there's a line like, I think it could be better, he makes it 10 times better.
Camille Ludington
That's a partnership.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Yeah. Yeah.
Camille Ludington
It's a great partner.
Jessica Capshaw
All right.
Camille Ludington
I kind of want to end on that.
Jessica Capshaw
I know. Thank you so much for being here. Can we steal you back on? As the season goes on and more gets revealed? For sure.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
That'd be so fun.
Camille Ludington
Yes. Yes.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
You guys are awesome. You have a great podcast. Thank you for letting me be a guest.
Jessica Capshaw
Oh, my God.
Camille Ludington
Well, I'm so happy that you're our first. I mean, it is a public, you know, thing. The other people on the show are going to now know that you're my favorite. But, you know, that's okay.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
You're going to tell them all?
Camille Ludington
Well, no, because I'm not a devious person. I'm gonna be like she is. So what are you gonna do to try to be my favorite?
Jessica Capshaw
I'm gonna work that. Yes, she is. And games Competition.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Exactly.
Camille Ludington
What would you like to bring to get yourself in pole position in my life.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
And then I'll come back and try to top it.
Jessica Capshaw
Yes, I love. All right, Jessica, I think it's time to call it the end of the episode.
Camille Ludington
Hey, can we talk about Plan B for a second? What exactly is it?
Jessica Capshaw
Okay, Plan B is emergency contraception you take after unprotected sex. Think of it as backup birth control. It works by temporarily delaying ovulation to help prevent pregnancy before it starts.
Camille Ludington
And it's available right off the shelf.
Jessica Capshaw
Yep. It's at all major retailers in all 50 US states. No prescription ID or age requirement.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
Ah.
Camille Ludington
Together we've got this.
Jessica Capshaw
Follow Plan B on insta at Plan B. One step. Use as directed.
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Kimberly Williams Paisley
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That may happen during sleep.
Kimberly Williams Paisley
You're more than the symptoms you've been ignoring.
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Daytime sleepiness, fatigue, irritability. They shouldn't be getting in the way.
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It's time to address OSA head on.
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Episode: "Remembering Diane Keaton…with Kimberly Williams-Paisley"
Date: October 24, 2025
Host(s): Jessica Capshaw & Camilla Luddington
Special Guest: Kimberly Williams-Paisley
In this heartfelt and lively installment, Jessica and Camilla welcome Kimberly Williams-Paisley to reflect on her career, personal growth, the loss of Diane Keaton, and behind-the-scenes stories from Hollywood. The conversation traverses topics like Kimberly's nonprofit work, her changing relationship with her voice (after losing it and regaining it), Diane Keaton's influence, Hollywood “almosts,” and playful revelations about family life and celebrity crushes. The tone is candid, friendly, and sprinkled with nostalgia, humor, and warmth.
Timestamps: 02:31–07:35
Quote:
"Our vision with the store is really to give people dignity in choice, in getting to, like, come and shop for what they need and what their preferences are, and to have their kids see their parents in a position of power."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (03:37)
Timestamps: 07:35–14:10
Quotes:
"She was just so generous and so funny and wise...especially on the second film, I felt like we really bonded and, you know, just laughed like you and I do."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (09:10)
"She showed up in her full Diane Keaton, like, you know, her suit, top hat...and she gave me $5. And she’s like, go buy something. And I'm gonna go buy something, too."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (10:47)
Timestamps: 13:15–14:31
Quote:
"[Diane] said, 'I wish that I had had more confidence to do the thing...my lack of confidence or my worry kept me from doing things I wish I had.'"
—Camilla Luddington, (14:00)
Timestamps: 17:47–23:46
Quote:
"That comes out of two years of being, like, maybe no one's gonna ever hear me. Maybe I am invisible. Maybe my...how am I gonna have my voice be heard? So practicing for two years, well, over the course of two years, to speak up..."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (19:16)
Quote:
"It’s not as loud. For a while it just kept getting higher and higher. Until then it just kind of turned whispery. And so it's not as loud."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (22:10)
Timestamps: 24:03–26:43
Quote:
"I always say...with some perspective, what not getting it got you for sure. And I mean, yeah, I can. There are years..."
—Camilla Luddington, (24:45)
Timestamps: 27:03–28:31
Timestamps: 31:19–34:42
Quote:
"I honestly crushed on my co star, George Newbern. I had a crush on him. He was so cute."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (32:49)
Timestamps: 34:42–36:54
Quote:
"Father, the Bride was really...That changed my life. It was a classic movie. It’s something people talk to me about every day."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (35:19)
Timestamps: 37:53–42:42
Quote:
"For sure. And it'll be about me, and it's like a love story or love song or something. And I'm like, it's too schmaltzy."
—Kimberly Williams-Paisley, (41:40)
On community dignity:
"Our vision with the store is really to give people dignity in choice...to have their kids see their parents in a position of power." (Kimberly, 03:37)
On Diane Keaton's influence:
"She was just so generous and so funny and wise. Just like wonderful. And especially on the second film, I felt like we really bonded." (Kimberly, 09:10)
On losing her voice:
"Practicing for two years...to speak up for what I need to be heard and stepping out for me and, like, you know, how can I take care of myself best? And that's what came out of that period of feeling invisible." (Kimberly, 19:16)
On authenticity in partnership:
"Being in a relationship where you feel like you can say this thing I’m gonna say might disappoint you, and say it anyways. That's fantastic." (Camilla, 42:16)
The tone remains genuine, supportive, humorous, with plenty of insider stories and laughter. Jessica and Camilla excel at making deep conversations feel like a cozy hangout, while Kimberly offers vulnerability and wisdom. There’s a strong “girl talk” energy mixed with touching moments about career, loss, and resilience.
This episode is a heartfelt homage to Diane Keaton’s memory and the power of mentorship, a reflection on overcoming personal hurdles, and a candid peek behind the scenes of both Hollywood and family life. Listeners walk away with stories that are both moving and amusing, a reminder to "call things what they are"—and to live, love, and speak up fearlessly.