The Scaries for Summerween

Summary

We Ride at Dawn (ish): "The Scaries for Summerween"
August 6, 2026 | Dear Media
Hosts: Camilla Luddington (with special guest Matt, her husband)

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Episode Overview

This special episode takes a detour from the regular duo of best friends Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington—as Jessica sits out, Camilla’s husband Matt joins as co-host. Together, they recount the hilarious and harrowing tales of their family summer vacation, poke fun at one another’s quirks, muse over parenting chaos, and ultimately, try to deliver on the promise of “spooky” with a conversation about alien DNA and government conspiracies. The episode flows with warmth, self-deprecating humor, and genuine insight into family life, marriage, and modern mythologies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Introducing Matt & The Genesis of "We Ride at Midnight" (00:11–02:29)

• Matt replaces Jessica as guest co-host, prompting immediate laughter and riffing about “real life husband vs. work wife.”
• Camilla and Matt reminisce about their early days as struggling actors, bonding over a rejected audition for a badly written horror film—fueling their later shared love of all things spooky.
• The episode is christened as “We Ride at Midnight”—special themed episodes focused on scary subjects.

Summer Vacation: The Most Terrifying Recent Event (02:37–19:00)

• Vacations with children as horror movie equivalents:
  • “There's nothing scarier, honestly, than going on vacation with our kids.” – Camilla (02:51)
• They break down the trip:
  • High expectations versus harsh reality: “We had such high expectations. That was. That was where we went wrong.” – Camilla (02:56)
  • Both spouses have “vacation notes”—providing a tongue-in-cheek “travel guide” for families.

The "Shut Up" Saga (04:11–07:01)

• Household language rules loosened (“shut up” permitted), unleashing comedic chaos as kids delight in saying “shut up” constantly.
  • “It was like being able to say the F word for the first time.” – Camilla (05:36)
  • “Lucas kept checking in with me every few seconds. He wanted to know the parameters.” – Matt (05:51)
• By the end, both parents regret the experiment: “They wore it out.” – Camilla (07:01)

Family Photo Fiasco (07:07–10:28)

• Camilla outs Matt as the “mom” obsessed with family photos: “You love a family photo.” – Camilla (07:42)
• Matt’s photomania allegedly reduces vacation enjoyment by 20%: “My request for pictures is taking the fun level to a low point.” – Camilla (08:17)
  • Matt jokingly embraces his reputation: “I'm going to get those pictures whether you look dead inside or not.” (09:22)

Urgent Care Escape (10:52–12:32)

• Camilla’s stubbed toe leads to a (possibly strategic) urgent care visit for some solo peace and quiet.
  • “I think you just wanted X-rays, by the way, just to get peace and quiet. Honestly, I did. You know what? It bumped my vacation up by maybe 10%, though.” – Camilla (12:20)

Airport Meltdowns & Parental Check-Out (12:49–14:57)

• Camilla describes a silent meltdown in the backseat with rowdy kids and a driver inappropriately telling plane crash stories on the way to the airport:
  • “I went silent. I went mute...I was out. I was at a zero.” – Camilla (13:13)
  • “...our driver start talking about...Buddy Holly [and a plane crash]...So by the time I got out...with my kids elbows in my eyeballs, toys in my face, I was done.” – Camilla (14:07–14:43)

Vacation Glimpses: $20 Milkshakes, Dad’s Pool Fashion, Romance Amid Chaos (15:05–17:49)

• Overpriced treats, changing beach styles (“You look like the grim reaper in the pool.” – Camilla, 15:47), and sweet small gestures like bringing coffee in bed.
• Both partners compliment each other’s strengths: Matt as the thoughtful gift-giver, Camilla for her efforts to make Father’s Day and birthdays special.

The Plight of Loud Little Travelers (18:00–18:49)

• Their son insists on talking louder than an airplane, refusing to watch movies: “He likes to compete with the sound of the actual airplane.” – Matt (18:11)

A Movie Theater Nightmare (19:05–22:17)

• Family recounts a disastrous movie outing: surrounded by a rowdy family with eight kids, little regard for etiquette.

  • “They were acting like they were in their living room...” – Camilla (20:57)

• Camilla’s verdict: “That was a streaming situation. You needed to be at home so that you could do all the things that you needed to do.” (21:52)

Bickering & Mulholland Drive Wisdom (22:17–23:48)

• Playful humor and spousal banter—directions, sassy retorts, and a classic Mattism while stuck behind a slow truck:
  • “Even assholes want to see the fucking sights.” – Matt (23:46)

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Spooky Corner: Aliens, DNA Conspiracies & Government Secrets (24:00–33:30)

23andMe, Extraterrestrial DNA & Whistleblower Buzz (24:00–26:07)

• Camilla drops a “spooky fact”: CIA allegedly tries to harvest genetic data from consumer DNA testing companies to flag “extraterrestrial” genes.

  • “The CIA has been attempting to access genetic data from 23andMe and ancestry.com specifically to flag users carrying extraterrestrial DNA.” – Camilla (24:52)

• Matt’s reaction: skepticism and comedic incredulity—“So the CIA is getting stuff from 23andMe...to find out which of their users might be aliens?” (25:19)

Alien Typologies: The Four Kinds Among Us? (27:05–31:39)

• Camilla brings up rumors from “government insiders”: there are four types of alien beings “on file.”

  • Reptilians: “Scaly lizard-like creatures...cold or calculating.” (28:14)
  • Grays: “Small, three to four feet, gray skinned with large black eyes.” (28:52)
  • Insectoids: “Multi-limbed beings...insect like features.” (29:12)
  • Nordics: “Tall, six to seven feet, fair skinned, blonde...peaceful and highly intelligent”–the ones most likely to blend into society.

• Camilla jokes that government searches may target “Nordic” DNA, as these would-be aliens are already “making little Nordic alien hybrid babies.” (30:11)

• Matt’s witty response: “That just sounds like a human.” (30:22)

• Camilla notes: “For years we've heard about...that person's a reptilian...maybe it's [true]...” (31:39)

• Both admit it all sounds like wild speculation, fun to entertain, but “fascinating if there’s any truth.”

The Real Scary Story? (33:01–33:41)

• Matt’s verdict: “The more terrifying story was the vacation. Because I lived it.” (33:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• “There's nothing scarier, honestly, than going on vacation with our kids.” – Camilla (02:51)
• “It was like being able to say the F word for the first time.” – Camilla (05:36)
• “I'm going to get those pictures whether you look dead inside or not.” – Matt (09:22)
• “I think you just wanted X-rays, by the way, just to get peace and quiet. Honestly I did. You know what? It bumped my vacation up by maybe 10%, though.” – Camilla (12:20)
• “Even assholes want to see the fucking sights.” – Matt (23:46)
• “That was a streaming situation. You needed to be at home so that you could do all the things that you needed to do.” – Camilla (21:52)
• “The CIA has been attempting to access genetic data from 23andMe and ancestry.com specifically to flag users carrying extraterrestrial DNA.” – Camilla (24:52)
• “The more terrifying story was the vacation. Because I lived it.” – Matt (33:04)

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Flow & Tone

The energy and flow oscillate between lighthearted bickering, sharp comedic timing, genuine confessions, and wry observations about family life. Even when discussing “spooky” topics, the mood is never heavy, instead staying self-aware and playful.

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Useful Takeaways

• Family vacations, while idyllic on Instagram, come with hidden chaos and real-life comedy.
• Parenting rules, even about minor things like words, can backfire spectacularly.
• Marriage is an endless dance of habits, humor, and (loving) annoyances.
• Spooky stories and alien conspiracies remain a favorite topic—best delivered with a wink and a sense of wonder.
• Sometimes, the most “terrifying” thing isn't found in the movies...it’s road trips with kids.

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For Next Time

The episode ends with a promise to return to more "scary" content, possibly with Matt providing the unsettling research—if Camilla hasn’t already beaten him to it.

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Episode Theme in a Nutshell:
A very human (and wildly funny) look at what’s truly frightening as a grown-up: managing marriage, kids, and vacations, with just a hint of aliens and government cover-ups to keep things interesting.

Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. I'm Jessica Capshaw. And I'm Camilla Ludington. And welcome to another episode of We Ride Adonis. Okay, let's be serious.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Okay, everyone. Today is a very special episode for me personally, because since Jessica Capshaw, my work wife, cannot be here, I have brought in my real life husband, Matt to the podge. I don't know why it's making me laugh already to guess your real life

[B]

wife, not your work wife.

[A]

Did I say real life wife?

[B]

No, you said Jess was your work wife, so yeah.

[A]

Yeah. My real life husband.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Matt, welcome to your very first episode of We Ride Adonis. And we were thinking. We were thinking about how Matt and I bonded over the fact that we were waiting tables together and we got an audition in, I'm not gonna say the movie, but for a horrible, terrible horror movie. So badly written. And we did not know that we both had an audition for it and we could have absolutely done with that money.

[B]

Yes. And both roles were awful in their own way.

[A]

Do you remember what mine was?

[B]

I do, I do.

[A]

Should I just tease what mine was really?

[B]

I think I might give it away. It was just gross. And I mean, that horror movie, it was.

[A]

It was a really bad horror movie. And we could have absolutely done with the money because again, we were waiting tables together and we both denied it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We both turned down the audition.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And we were laughing over it. And it's literally one of the first conversations that we ever have had. So we have this history of, like, loving horror movies, having bonded over this one, like, rejected horror movie. And we spend a lot of time by our fire pit at night and we talk about spooky stuff. And our kids love spooky stuff.

[B]

Great. You know, spooky films. And kids love Halloween. Like, Halloween has been.

[A]

Halloween's huge. And we talk about. We tell a lot of ghost stories and urban legends, and our perfect date night would be to honestly go watch a horror movie. And so for you to be here today, I thought, well, how can we make it different?

[B]

How can we terrify people?

[A]

How can we just terrify listeners and watchers? And so we are adding a little flair to this podcast and we are calling the episodes that Matt is here for. We ride at midnight and we'll be talking about scary shit. We're going to bring some stuff with us.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I have actually made some notes in my phone of what I'm going to say today. I'm going to bring some, like, spooky facts. And you don't know.

[B]

That you haven't told me about. Yeah.

[A]

That you don't know about. But before we start, we're going to talk about the scariest thing that's happened to us recently.

[B]

The most terrifying thing that's happened recently is our family vacation.

[A]

Okay. Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

There's nothing scarier, honestly, than going on vacation with our kids.

[B]

It's true. We had such high expectations.

[A]

That was. That was where we went wrong. Okay. And then.

[B]

So I'm still tired from it.

[A]

I'm still so fucked.

[B]

We've been back for a few days now.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So what we did is. I told you to make some notes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Of your top, like, what, five.

[B]

I just made notes. I just made vacation notes.

[A]

So we want to. We want to take you back on that journey with us personally, because maybe you guys can relate.

[B]

We had a. We had a wonderful vacation.

[A]

We should say that first.

[B]

We should start. We were in paradise.

[A]

We love our family.

[B]

We love our family. We had some great highlights.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And some not so great highlights.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I titled my document ways to fix a shitty vacation

[A]

for next time. Okay. Give me some of the things that you have noted, because I have notes, too.

[B]

So are we presenting this as like a maybe a travel guide for families that are maybe exactly, you know, going out this summer?

[A]

But it really is. It is kind of for us. But we're gonna let our listeners and our watchers just have a little. A sneak peek into what life was like on the road.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Where to begin? You start.

[A]

Me start?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Well, one of the biggest mistakes I think that we did was before the vacation. And I'm not blaming either one of us. Okay, but before the vacation.

[B]

That already sounds like a blame. It sounds like a blame. Go ahead.

[A]

100. Your fault.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no. Before the vacation, the kids. We have a rule in our house that you cannot say shut up.

[B]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's a bad word in our house. Or Lucas is like, that's a bad word. So. Yeah, they know that.

[A]

Shut up. Okay. And then which? Growing up, like, I mean, I told my siblings to shut up all the time. Did you?

[B]

I think so. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like a bad word.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Okay. We've made a bad word in our house. And the problem that we did is, like, right before the vacation started, we loosened the rule. Okay. Because I heard them arguing, and I thought to myself, I'm jumping in. And you do this, too. We jump in every single time. And I was just allowed. I figured I almost felt like, with my siblings, I would just argue and almost.

[B]

Sometimes. Sometimes it was like parents were like, work it out. Just work it out.

[A]

Yeah, a little bit of that. But what happened is within that shut up was thrown around, and I let it go.

[B]

I even said, guys, I'm gonna give you a free pass on the shut up.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

That was the beginning of the end.

[A]

That was the beginning of the end. It was the vacation of a shut up. Okay? No one. Here's the problem that they had. Once they realized they could say shut up, it was like being able to say the F word for the first time.

[B]

Lucas kept checking in with me every few seconds. He was like, hey, dad, so can I say shut up like, every time I want or just like, you know, he wanted to know the parameters.

[A]

Yeah. The parameters of the show, but it

[B]

was on his mind. He was ready to just let it go.

[A]

Okay. So our kids on vacation this summer loved saying shut up. And. And. And. And the joy and vitriol in which they were able to say, like, shut up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, just, like, pure.

[B]

They said it every possible way.

[A]

Any exact. Yes.

[B]

With every pause, every. Every motivation.

[A]

They loved it. So our. Our. That was a big mistake that we made right before the vacation. So they really. Like, there was a sh. There was a shutup off.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. On the. On. I feel like Lucas enjoyed it so much that it was just like he was. He was feeding off of it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

He. Like, where can I. Where can I use it again?

[A]

He was almost, like, power hungry from the. From the Shut up.

[B]

So we had to. We had to wean him off of the sh.

[A]

You had to lock that down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We waited until, like, the last day where we're like, you know what, guys? Shut ups off the table.

[B]

Yeah. I don't think they want to say it anymore. They. They wore it out.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They wore it out. Okay. That's my first note of maybe where we went wrong. I have a note for you.

[B]

Here we go.

[A]

Where? I do think you added to the stress.

[B]

I got one for you too.

[A]

Mine is this. I'm gonna set this up. Okay, go ahead. I think that. Do you know where I'm going with this?

[B]

I. I'm not sure. There's maybe two or three spots that I could use work on. I. I feel like.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Just on vacations.

[A]

Okay. This is the most annoying thing that you do on vacations, and you do it every time. People typically think that the person that wants to take all the family pictures is the mom.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In our family that is 100% not true. You love a family photo.

[B]

I do love. My kids. Hate it. My wife hates it. I love. I am snapping photos.

[A]

Yeah, you're like.

[B]

You're like a grandma. I'm like a grandma, but I usually start a vacation or even just a dinner with guys. I'm letting you know right now I'm gonna be taking a lot of photos.

[A]

Yeah, there's a lot of people.

[B]

I don't want any arguing.

[A]

Yes, exactly. Exactly.

[B]

I have to preface it constantly, but.

[A]

Well, why do you have to preface it? Because honestly, it instantly ruins the mood. It is a mood.

[B]

You told her. Actually you told me that I. My request. You said this on vacation. My request for pictures is taking the fun level to a. A low point.

[A]

I had. I had heard a fact. I don't know where I heard it from.

[B]

That's right. Yeah.

[A]

But I did tell you I had heard.

[B]

Let me hear.

[A]

The fact that the person that makes you constantly take pictures on vacation lessens your enjoyment of that vacation by 20%.

[B]

It's a 20%.

[A]

It's a 20 drop.

[B]

That number is ridiculous. First off, 20%.

[A]

Honestly kind of felt right.

[B]

So if you're having the best vacation of your life at a hundred percent and I ask you for a photo down by this beautiful palm tree, you're down to 80%. Like that. That's absurd. But I could feel it. I could feel that every time I asked for a picture I could feel everyone's life being sucked. And I just kept going. Cuz that's what you get. I'm going to get those pictures whether you look dead inside or not. I'm getting that.

[A]

500 pictures later, I'm at zero percent enjoyment. It's is my point. But here's what you did. That was the most.

[B]

Hang on thing.

[A]

Wait, I'm not okay. When we go. What did you do every single morning? You're like, I'm going to take 20%. Because it was so I woke.

[B]

I woke up and said today I'm going to make everyone enjoy this vacation. 20%.

[A]

Watch me.

[B]

Yeah, that's my goal. Get the.

[A]

Get out of here by the elevator.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Before we even. I'm like crying. Yeah, before we even went.

[B]

One picture. Camilla.

[A]

We even went downstairs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You stopped a picture and that stopped 20% off the top.

[B]

So daily one photo takes 20% out. You're. You're messing with the figures.

[A]

I'm not even kidding. It was. I'm just letting you know. Don't argue with science. That ruined. That is. I Do think you can improve by

[B]

being less of a. I know that it's annoying. I admit that.

[A]

It's so annoying.

[B]

The Meryl Stress Streep of. Of every family member reacting to it. It's so dramatic. Just to get a photo from this family.

[A]

Okay, anyway, let's move on.

[B]

Okay, let's move on to your points of improvement. Hang on, let me unscroll this thing.

[A]

Oh, my God. Go. I. I honestly can't think of one being serious.

[B]

I think one day Camila stubbed her toe and she went to the. The urgent care just to get maybe two or three hours of silence for herself. I think is what really happened, because she was apparently. Apparently had requested so many photos that she was to 0% and had to go to urgent care to feel better.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Tell us about it.

[A]

Okay, well, that is.

[B]

I wrote Camilla stubbed her toe question mark. You just wanted quiet time.

[A]

You think I thought my toe was broken? You're such a dick. Dude. I thought my toe was broken, and you didn't give a about my toe.

[B]

First off, I care, but I had two kids who had lost their minds at that point.

[A]

So let me get this right. The real story right now. You're making me laugh. The real story right now is that I stubbed my toe and I thought, oh, my God, it's the size of an elephant. It might be broken. And you thought, don't get it checked out because I don't want to be left with the kids.

[B]

I didn't. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it was a stub. It was a stub.

[A]

How big was my toe? My toe was the size of that pillow right there. Okay. If your toe looked like that, it

[B]

was literally like this, and it's fine. And it was like Camila deal with

[A]

was not that big that I went to urgent care. I think you just wanted X rays, by the way, just to get peace and quiet. Honestly, I did. You know what? It bumped my vacation up by maybe 10%, though.

[B]

And you. What's funny is you came back from the urgent care just raving about their customer service and how there was no wait. And it was so pretty there.

[A]

It was great. I fully recommend the Maui Urgent care.

[B]

Let's see.

[A]

They were fantastic. Okay. Okay.

[B]

I have one. One day of vacation. The day Camilla checked out.

[A]

Oh, my God. Which day was that?

[B]

Which day we left when the kids were driving us nuts and the way to. On the way to the airport before our flight got killed.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You were Done.

[A]

No, that is true. Okay, so I. I need a preface. This. Yeah. I. I went silent. I went mute.

[B]

You did.

[A]

I really did. I. I refused to speak. And I said to Matt, I'm done speaking in my defense, because this is a note of mine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it wasn't about you or me. You took the front seat of the car on the way to the airport. Okay. Our kids had already done a. Shut up. 5,000. I take a 5,000 more pictures with you. I was out. I was at a zero. Okay. We went to the airport, and I was with the two kids in the backseat. And you were like, recline lounger.

[B]

I did have the driver that was just chatting to me about Hawaiian history.

[A]

Exactly. But you had all the room in the world. You were chilling. I was getting carsick. The kids were, like, playing like this, like, like. And I was so done. And I don't like flying. I'm a nervous flyer. And what did our fucking driver start talking about?

[B]

He literally started singing that song.

[A]

And he was like, do you know who this is?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Big Bopper. He died in a plane, and he started banging on.

[B]

I could feel Camilla's mind. I could feel her in the back seat. When he said Big Bopper, I could feel you just imploding.

[A]

And then he even goes, you know, Buddy Hall, I'm like, everyone knows that story is, like, the day the music died.

[B]

And I'm like, yeah, buddy, we know the story.

[A]

We're on our way to the plane. So by the time I got out of that car and I'd been told the story of this plane crash that had happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And with my kids elbows in my eyeballs, toys in my face, I was done. And I did tell you. I was like, I am checked out. You're right. I checked out. And then our flight got canceled, and

[B]

then we spent four hours at the airport, only to get redirected the next day. And.

[A]

Yeah. I have a note in here.

[B]

What's it titled?

[A]

It's not a note. It's. I like the milkshakes that they sell. There are $20.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the kids always want one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They take one sip and they're done.

[B]

Always.

[A]

You used to be really hot on vacation.

[B]

I don't even know is a note that I respond to that.

[A]

You used to be.

[B]

You said used to.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, used to. Okay. Because you used to be in, like, shirtless, right? Like, getting a tan, shorts. What do you look like now on vacation?

[B]

I am covered wrist to neck to ankle, basically. To ankle. No, I don't cover the legs, but I do wear the sun shirts now and usually a hat. And.

[A]

And now you have the hoodie on.

[B]

I. I found one that had a hoodie, so.

[A]

You look like the grim reaper in the pool.

[B]

I.

[A]

You do. I'm not kidding.

[B]

I came home with a worse. And it's honestly with a worse farmer's tan than left.

[A]

Maybe there's no part of your body that even sees the sun, but I. How have you morphed? Like, what is driving that?

[B]

Honest. To be honest, because our kids. I'm constantly worried about sunscreen with them. It's made me more aware and less hot, apparently.

[A]

I. I'm just saying, next vacation, you could step it up a little bit. I.

[B]

You can also find me with four inner tubes around my waist. Two, you know, flowery tote bags.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And a bunch of goggles. So that's not hot either.

[A]

Feel like a Christmas tree.

[B]

It is. I feel like a Christmas tree.

[A]

Going to the beach every time you are stuck. Okay, I'm gonna do a couple more, and then we're gonna move on to how annoying last night was. Okay. Oh, something very romantic that you do on vacation that people should know about.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You actually are very romantic on vacation. Always.

[B]

I have a compliment as well. Go ahead.

[A]

Okay, good. You get me coffee every single morning and bring it back to the room on vacation. And like, literally deliver me coffee in bed, even though I know that you're exhausted. And I like to.

[B]

Yeah, I like to bring you coffee.

[A]

Yeah. It was real cute.

[B]

My birthday and Father's Day just happened to be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On this trip.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And you were so sweet.

[A]

I did a good job.

[B]

And you. You made me feel very special.

[A]

Yes. Because what people don't know is that Matt is the best gift buyer, surprising birthday celebration, everything person ever. And I am less so. I'm good with our kids.

[B]

No, you're really good. You're really good.

[A]

But, like, you're like. You are very sentimental with gifts and stuff, and I. I struggle more. And so I wanted to make.

[B]

You made me feel very special. This. This birthday and Father's Day.

[A]

Okay. Before we get into other scary stuff, we're going to do one real life scary thing.

[B]

Hang on. Can I say one more thing about vacation?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Go our son real quick.

[A]

Yeah, he's got to go.

[B]

I mean, he. Oh, he's at an age where he can talk. Oh, and, man, I do.

[A]

Listen, we should preface this by saying we. We love it.

[B]

I love it so much. And we have conversations that are just adorable. And his voice is just so yummy and adorable. But on an airplane. Oh, he's. He likes to compete with the sound of the actual airplane. So when you're traveling with your son and he's trying to talk.

[A]

Yeah. I love how you're like, when you're traveling with your son, he's also yours. But. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. His. His need to compete with the sound of the airplane itself is.

[A]

Oh, it. You guys.

[B]

It was non stop, just constant talking.

[A]

It was the longest five and a half hours of my life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because he didn't want to watch a movie. I was fully down to be like, guess what? You're going to love your life on this flight. You're going to watch 500 movies. Like, this is your moment, right?

[B]

He's like, no.

[A]

Okay. Speaking of movies, we took the kids to a movie last night.

[B]

We did.

[A]

And I left that movie theater so irritated, and you did, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we got into the car and we usually would have had a major bitch fest about it together. And I said, save it for the pod. So I'm gonna set this up. Okay. Matt and I took the kids to a movie and I booked the tickets maybe like three hours before. And when I booked them, the entire row was free. Right. And so I said, like, I'll book the four in the middle. And okay. I get there, this mom and dad show up with literally eight kids.

[B]

I think. I think they were outside just grabbing kids. They were just, you want to see this movie? Get in here. Because there were so many kids. There was so many. I didn't know if it was the parents. It was like, they didn't want to be parents, though.

[A]

But they were bringing every kid in the world.

[B]

And right next to you, like, they. They lined up right next to you. And then down the line.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So we took our seats. This woman. I don't know if it was a birthday party or like a Duggar situation where it's like, they have eight kids. I don't know. This mom walks in, she sits right next to me. Right. And like, what, I sit in a chair in a movie theater. People might have opinions on this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I like, am cognizant that around me, other people are sad. Yeah. I don't, like, confine myself to, like, a small space, but, like, I'm just aware, okay, this lady, her kids were a nightmare. First of all, through the whole movie, they were up. They were literally standing.

[B]

I mean, there was a sea of popcorn on the floor. Before the previews, they bought.

[A]

You know what? Here's what I'm getting at.

[B]

Getting where she's getting mad at.

[A]

Family. No. Really pissed me off. We're acting like they were in their

[B]

living room, you know, like at a buffet when there's, you know, people kind of moving around to get something from here and get something premier. That family was just like it.

[A]

Constant movement. And she bought her kid, who was probably like 18 months old. I'm sorry if your kid is going to be like, screaming, yelling, crying. They don't. They're not even watching a movie yet at that age. The etiquette to me got. People might have opinions on this. The etiquette to me is that you need to take your kid outside or you don't bring your kid. You have someone babysit that kid. Because everyone in that movie theater had paid to watch the movie.

[B]

And all of that happened before the movie started.

[A]

I feel like it happened before the movie started, but it. It was just. I've never seen a family do that. And it happened the entire movie. I said to you, stream it. Some families. Some families. Controversial or streaming family.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

That was a streaming situation. You needed to be at home so that you could do all the things that you needed to do. I get. By the way, I understand we have kids who were chatty, would be like, oh, my God. You know, I understand that this was not. That it was streaming behavior.

[B]

It was anxiety inducing.

[A]

It was streaming behavior. Well, honestly, we've just complained. This podcast. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Do we want to get anything else out while we're at it? I feel like there was a. To be honest, there were a few things I feel like leading up to this. This morning. No, this morning that you were yelling at me about that you wanted to address.

[A]

Yeah, we've been on one. I said to you on the way here. Yeah, just don't. Just don't take a right here. Go straight or a left. Right.

[B]

Go straight.

[A]

And what did you say to me?

[B]

I don't remember verbatim, but it was exactly this.

[A]

Yeah, go, go. Tell me what you said.

[B]

No, I said, look, we're gonna be fine on time. I want you to sit there and enjoy the drive.

[A]

You did? Yeah.

[B]

In the passenger seat, where you are.

[A]

A passenger seat. And you did the. As a passenger.

[B]

It was a little dramatic like that and a little sassy, but I. It was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was so annoying.

[A]

Sass right off the bat, by the way, like two minutes into the drive. Also, by the way, on the way here, we were stuck behind the slowest, most gigantic truck with all this Stuff on that didn't even look legal. And on the winding roads, you guys, in Mulholland Drive in Los Angeles, this isn't the freeway. Mulholland Drive is like up in. In the hills. Right? Like. And I said they shouldn't even be allowed to drive on Mulholland. And what did you say? Because I wrote it down. You said, even assholes want to see the fucking sights.

[B]

Even assholes want to see the fucking sights.

[A]

Yeah. Because it is a good view.

[B]

That. That does sound like something I would say.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So we have been on one all morning, but we're gonna. We said we were gonna talk about some spooky.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Let's at least get into it a little bit. So I apologize, you guys, because this was supposed to be a very spooky podcast and we have been. We've just complained. Couple things I want to talk to you about. And I'm wearing the T shirt because of it. We're gonna talk about aliens and UFOs. And I am bringing up my phone because I also wrote down some facts that you will not.

[B]

These are the facts that you would not let me even know about until we got here today.

[A]

So this one is so crazy to me and is being talked about a lot. According to a whistleblower, the CIA has been attempting to access genetic data from 23andMe. And I already know your reaction.

[B]

I'm listening. You gotta start over.

[A]

Okay. Sorry. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

According to a whistleblower.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I want you to take this seriously.

[B]

I am.

[A]

I am know that you're gonna be a wind up. The CIA has been attempting to access genetic data from 23me and ancestry.com specifically to flag users carrying extraterrestrial DNA.

[B]

Who's doing this?

[A]

CIA.

[B]

CAA.

[A]

No, no, no. CIA. CIA.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, the CIA.

[B]

So the CIA.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Is. Is getting stuff from 23andMe, an ancestry to find out which of their users might be aliens?

[A]

Yes. Because apparently, okay, they're already here. They're walking among us.

[B]

I've heard.

[A]

Okay. From them.

[B]

That's what they told me.

[A]

Okay. But apparently when you do it, it comes back, like with different ethnicities. Right? So it's like you, percentage Caucasian, you're this, you're that. There's also a little option that says other. And the other option means you're an alien. They can't identify what that is. And so this, apparently they're looking for that. Have you done it?

[B]

I have not done it personally. I know people who have done it. Yeah, but it's a little Scary to me to, you know, put my DNA.

[A]

I know that's. I know that's how people feel. That is. But isn't that crazy? The government is potentially doing a deep

[B]

dive, but couldn't the other be like. So this DNA strand or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is different than all the human strands, or is it a. Just a different kind of human strand,

[A]

if that makes sense. No, they're saying, like, genetically there's something undetectable that they can't. They don't know what it is.

[B]

Like, that part of it just doesn't.

[A]

Well, I don't know. I'm not a fucking scientist. I have no idea what. I don't. It's not.

[B]

I need answers, Camilla.

[A]

I know. I feel like it's like the beginning of Jurassic park where they're like, Daz or DNA.

[B]

Speaking of the DNA. Thing is, that's exactly what I was thinking is there's just a little part they're missing and they're saying they don't know what that is. Right.

[A]

Matt, I don't think you understand. I don't know. I have no idea if the sequence. I don't know what it is.

[B]

Got it. All right, let's move on.

[A]

Okay. Now this is going to. You're going to freak out, honestly. Okay. Ready for this?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, no. I screenshot these. Okay. Okay. This was insane. Are you texting someone? Are you busy?

[B]

I'm just making sure if there's.

[A]

Okay, this goes with the DNA part. Okay. Did you know that there are people that have worked in government departments.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That are in the know.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That are saying that they. That we have recovered craft crafts. Right. And when asked on podcasts or even in, like, by like a congressman, they have disclosed that they have heard that there are four different alien type beings. And I'm going to tell you what they are. Have you ever heard this?

[B]

No.

[A]

So you know how people, like, always used to talk about. And you were like, those are crazy people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Reptilians. Yeah, Reptilians is one.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes. Okay, so like, giant lizard, basically. Like, the reptilians are scaly lizard like creatures, sometimes with tails, described as cold or calculating. That's their personality type. What?

[B]

I have. I have thoughts.

[A]

Yeah, you do.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

No, no, let's hear them.

[B]

No, it's.

[A]

It's.

[B]

That's personality stuff. That's. It's. It's ridiculous. It sounds like a dating app.

[A]

Dicks, basically.

[B]

I pause on that.

[A]

Okay. Okay, we'll come back to that. Because you have thoughts. The grays, which we all know about. Okay. So they're actually described as small, three to four feet, gray skinned with large black eyes, three fingered hands. And they are the ones that are often. Why? Why?

[B]

I'm just waiting for the punchline.

[A]

This is serious. They're often linked to abduction narratives. Yeah, okay. That's where I was going.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Insectoids.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How big are those?

[A]

They don't. They're.

[B]

What do they do? What do they like to do?

[A]

Multi limbed beings with segmented bodies often associated with insect like features. Here's the crazy one. And this is the one that they think that ancestry.com and that whole thing that I just said, they're trying to figure out this particular DNA.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The Nordics. The Nordics are tall, they're six to seven feet, fair skinned, blonde haired humanoids resembling northern Europeans portrayed as peaceful and highly intelligent. Now the conspiracy is that the Nordics are already here and are like obviously a lizard can't be walking down Beverly Hills going on a date. But the Nordics could take a date. And they've been. They have been hooking up, making little Nordic alien hybrid babies.

[B]

What is their. Their power or what?

[A]

Well, they're peaceful.

[B]

What's their bio say?

[A]

That is the bio. Read the bio. You mean on like a dating site? I have no idea.

[B]

This. That seems a little. I need more. I don't know because that just sounds like a human.

[A]

Well, apparently they're not. And apparently like they have their. It's okay, listen. When I was researching this, it said.

[B]

Where were you researching this?

[A]

Why didn't go to a library. I like I was online. I researched stuff right on my phone. Okay, but what I'm saying is when I was researching it I was like Matt is never going to believe me. It sounds so crazy, like just something someone's made up. But these are real conversations with people that have been part of these departments.

[B]

And these are all the different kinds of aliens they have found in these aircrafts.

[A]

They. Yes, they have been told that they're afraid four different types of non human beings and that is how they were described.

[B]

Okay. Fascinating.

[A]

Honestly, if I had to run into one, the Nordic seems the most peaceful and nice.

[B]

You don't have a full dating bio for that one?

[A]

I don't have a full dating bio for any of that.

[B]

The first one I feel like you

[A]

knew the most about what the Reptilians? Yeah, well that's because they said that they're cold and calculated. But it's so funny because for years we've heard about, like, someone being reptilian. Like.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Or like, you know, like, those conspiracies, real conspiracies, of, like, that person's a reptilian, and I'm. Like, that person's crazy. And I don't know. Maybe it's.

[B]

I feel like we're on the verge of getting a lot of stuff to come out or it's slowly trickling out right now.

[A]

It's the year of disclosure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Disclosure day. Right. I got to ask Jess about this. Jessica does want to talk about this.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She absolutely wants to talk about it. And. And if I could ask her dad one question, it would be that everyone is wondering if the movie the Spielberg made is a buffer to, like, sort of see how Americans feel about the idea of real disclosure.

[B]

That's fascinating.

[A]

I know. Isn't that crazy? That cannot be true, though. Obviously, that's not true.

[B]

Be cool. Like.

[A]

But I do think that, like, the fact that we're. More information is fascinating, but why not just give it all to us?

[B]

I don't know. Information is dangerous.

[A]

I know. But it feels like they're breadcrumbing it to me.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of reasons to breadcrumb things right now.

[A]

As a distraction.

[B]

Just distractions in the world in general.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why not release a little bit here and there.

[A]

Yeah. We've covered. Next time we do this, I'm gonna

[B]

be honest with you.

[A]

Yeah. Your mind wasn't blown.

[B]

It was. This is fascinating. I don't have a lot of. You know. Well. Cause you're taking it in sarcastic comments on. Essentially. But the more terrifying story was the vacation. Because I lived it. Because I lived it. I can't even shake it. I'm back to it.

[A]

So let me just. I'm just gonna understand what's happening right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just told you that there might be Reptilians.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As aliens.

[B]

Nordics.

[A]

Nordics. All of the four different types, possibly on Earth already. And their DNA is maybe being tracked. But our family vacation is more horrifying to you?

[B]

To be honest, I think a lot of people this summer, a lot of adults, parents, will have the same feeling.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like Independence Day. That ship could float above us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But most parents this summer will be

[A]

like, it's the least of my fucking issues. Totally.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The next time I bring you on, I will have more spooky, scary stuff to talk about. I just wanted to just breadcrumb it smart. I wanted to see how the listeners and the watchers were feeling.

[B]

I'm gonna bring some stuff back to throw your way next.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wait, maybe you should do that. Maybe you bring the spooky facts, because

[B]

it's rare that I find a spooky fact that you haven't already, like, literally yelled to me from the other room that you just.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is true.

[B]

But I'm gonna. I'm gonna come up with a list and. And.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And, you guys, thank you for listening. We have. We have really been on one, actually. This felt good to, like, vent with them.

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Good to know. There are things that I need.