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Kirk Martin
Hey moms and dads, don't you just.
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Kirk Martin
So when you were thinking about having kids or adopting, you weren't like, you know what? I bet we're gonna have really challenging kids and they're gonna every day is going to be a power struggle and then you and I are going to begin to not like each other very much because we didn't really discuss our parenting styles and what our childhood was like. And then all of a sudden we're going to pull apart, we're going to fight each other and the kids are going to divide us and then our whole home life is going to be miserable. Like, you didn't have that thought, but it's kind of what's happened, right? So how do you fix that? How do we change that? The original idea of this podcast was going to be titled 3 Quick Ideas for Dads. But these ideas work for moms. And I don't want to give you just three ideas. I actually just thought of a couple other bonus ones. So here they are. And part of the backdrop is you have these kids. And in many cases, in my case, I began to pull away from my son because I didn't like him, because I couldn't control myself. And when you don't have a relationship, you can't discipline because they're not going to listen to you. And I had to rebuild that relationship. A couple quick ideas for rebuilding one is Music. Take an interest in your child's music. I know you hate their music. It's awful. Just like your parents hated your music and their parents hated theirs. You don't have to encourage it, but at least be curious and ask your child why they like that music. Listen to it sometimes. Just try that. It's a good way to bond. Another way, ask your child to teach you something. Because our kids go through their entire childhood, teachers, parents, coaches, leaders, teaching them, teaching them, telling what to do, lecturing. Give them an opportunity, say, you know what, I'm curious. Could you help me with this? Could you show me how that works? I have a dad that I was working with and he's, he doesn't like Apple products, he like MacBooks and so he's Microsoft guy and security thing for him. But his son loves Apple products. Well, he digs in because he's a man and that's what we do. We're like, well, those things aren't safe and I'm not going to talk about those. I was like, just take an interest. Just say, hey, you're really curious about these Apple and these MacBooks. Why, what are you curious about them for? Why do you like the functionality? And just listener, let them teach you how to do something on your phone. Let them teach you. It is a way to bond and it's really cool. So with that said, let's get into the real meat of this, what I was looking to on this podcast. For those who don't know, I'm Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. You can find us@celebratecolm.com backstory I very strong willed son almost destroyed our relationship. But by learning how to control myself first, I rebuilt that relationship. And we have an awesome relationship. And he is a tough kid, but I'm also a tough dad. And we had 1500 of these strong willed kids in our home. So the short story is we know what we're doing with these kids and this stuff works. So dig in and do it. If you need help, reach out to that kid, Casey. That's our son.
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Kirk Martin
Tell us about your family will help you out. Go on to Celebrate Calm. Get the Calm parenting package. Why? Because it'll help your family. Now if you want to be miserable and continue ruining your relationship, then don't do that. But if you want really practical stuff that works in the Calm parenting package, there's a program called Straight Talk for dads. Because I like talking directly to dads and that's what I'm going to do right now. I like giving you on the straight talk. For dads, it's 24 hours of when you get up in the morning, do this. When you come home from work, do this. And I give you scripts to use. It's really cool. So three things for dads, moms you can apply it to. One, men respect other men who are cool and calm under pressure, right? If you're in the middle of a war, you don't want your platoon captain saying, oh my gosh, they're shooting at us. What do we do? But we often flail, right? As parents, sometimes as dads, we do that. If you like football, you want your football team's quarterback to stay cool and calm under pressure. Because if your team is down by two touchdowns in the fourth quarterback, fourth quarter, you don't want your quarterback coming into the huddle. You know we're down by two touchdowns. You, you don't know what route to run. You keep fumbling. Let's go score. Nobody's following that guy. You want the guy who walks into the huddle confidently takes a knee. By the way, for dads of younger kids, come home from work or out of your home office and take a knee. It changes your body posture and your tone of voice. And you lead your kids from that posture. It's really cool. Just try it. And that quarterback says, guys, we're down by two touchdowns. We're going to march down the field, execute our play, score, get the ball back. We're going to score again. And the best quarterbacks, you will see them, they don't get flustered on the field. Men, moms too. When we're at work, we can handle the pressure. Something's going wrong. Sales are down, competitors coming in. We have to problem solve. And we kick in. We're like, you know what? I'm going to dig into this. I'm going to problem solve. I'll stay in work for 24 hours. I'm going to solve this problem. Because we're good at that for some reason. We open the front door of our homes and we lose it. There are just Legos on the floor and we can't handle the disorder. And we start yelling there's a problem and we run from it. Or we try to use fear and intimidation like I did. It doesn't work. So here's an idea. Come home and talk to your kids like they're a business colleague. Because at work, you don't freak out on your employees or your colleagues. Otherwise, they don't trust you. And they won't follow you. That younger employee, what do you do? You take him or her under your wing and you walk down the hallway and you say, you know what, doing a really good job. Here are a couple areas where you need to step up. But I believe you're capable. So this week, be the coach. Try being a coach of your child. Because what are we as men? Well, I'm just, I just have to be the strict disciplinarian. And I'm going to take everything personally and think everything my son does or daughter does. They're just disrespecting me because I get offended easily, like an NFL wide receiver. Now look, if you're offended at that, then you got to work on that because you are like that. You know why? Because you're a man. That's the definition of a dad. That's what we all do. But you need to change that, right? And so instead of just thinking like, well, my job is just to discipline all the time. No, your job is to teach. Discipline needs to teach. But we're usually punishing and getting upset. And what we're really telling our kids is, you better behave because if you don't, I'm going to get angry and yellow. True. It's what we teach our kids. I want to teach them. I know what's going on. I can handle this. I got it. You're having problem in school, you're having a problem with your friends. Look, I've been through this stuff before. Let me give you some of my wisdom. That's a coaching kind of thing and I think it'll take some of the pressure off of you. Second thing, I like this analogy. So I'm doing a phone consultation with the dad. I'm doing a lot of one on one stuff with men now because I love it. We'll set up like 20 minute, just 20 minutes. Because, guys, we can get to a lot of stuff very quickly. You don't need to, you don't need to go through all your stuff just like, hey, tell me what to do. And I'm like, here's a script. Go do this, dad. Fist bump. Good. And so I'm doing this a lot. Like once a week or every two weeks on a certain time of the day, or I'm doing stuff, I'm texting guys every two days. Like, hey, remember this? Do this. So talk to this dad. And he's not, he's not really buying into it. He's not getting. He's like, well, my son just needs to do what I told him to do. I was like, I get that, but you can't control yourself. So I pivoted. And I was like, hey, I'm just curious, what kind of jobs have you had? What do you do? And he goes, well, I used to be animal welfare. And I was like, oh, so like dogs that are out in the wild, like, you had dog catcher? And he's like, yeah. And I was like, hey, that's interesting. So I'm curious, if you had a wild dog out in the neighborhood and you had to go find it, how did you approach the dog? He's like, well, you know, you can't just come running up onto it because then it'll create a defensive response and it'll attack you. And I was like, interesting. And he's like, yeah. So, you know, you come up and you get down on a knee. And he. And he was like, oh, I see what you're doing. I was like, exactly. You know intuitively what to do with a dog who is angry and afraid, because that dog is angry and afraid, and that's why it's lashing out. And guess what? Your child is probably angry and a little bit afraid. So what if you took the same approach to approaching your child that you did in your job? His other job was, guess what a fireman. Guess what a fireman does. He puts out fires. So we went through the whole process of like, hey, when there was a fire, you knew what you were going to do. You had a process. You didn't like, run right into the building. You, problem solved. You figured out you had a routine. So next time your child is emotionally on fire, why don't you have a routine and why don't you problem solve and why don't you put out the emotional fire like you did as a fireman? So, guys, moms, think about the job that you're in. You may be a teacher, you might be a nurse, you might be an occupational therapist, you could be a business executive, you could be, whatever it is, an engineer. Take the same principles that work at work and apply them to working with your child.
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Kirk Martin
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Kirk Martin
And then the third thing I want to say is going to be very direct, but it comes from a place of compassion and I hope you're not offended by this. But sometimes when speaking to men, my tone and language is a little bit more intense because that's what I respond to better. I like a guy who says, you know what, you got to grow up, Kirk. That's what my mentors tell me. So I just told this to a dad on a phone consultation and I hope you will receive this Stop asking your son to deal with your childhood crap that you haven't had the courage and strength to deal with as a grown man. Isn't that true? You're putting on I was putting onto my son who I love and who you love, your child. I was putting all of my childhood that I got from my dad onto my son and expecting him to deal with it when I hadn't had the courage or strength or the tools to deal with that as a grown man. And I'll give you the tools because I say this out of compassion. Here's another one. You keep saying your child won't push through when things get hard. But you won't either. Because you complain that your son won't give his best effort. Well, neither are you. Because when things get hard, you know what I did? I ran and hit. Because that's what I learned as a kid, to hide from conflict because my parents fought all the time. I want you to dig in. You want your son to push through when things get hard. Well, it's time for you to do that. You keep saying your child is the issue. Well, it's my child. He's the issue. If my daughter would just do. And you keep denying the dysfunction you've carried from your own childhood. Maybe your mom or your dad. I promise this will only change when you admit that you need to change yourself first. Nothing else is going to change. You have to change yourself first because that's what grownups do. Otherwise you're dumping on a 9 year old or a 6 year old or 3 year old or 14 year old what a 39 year old man won't even address. It's unfair. It's wrong. So when you're ready to do this, I will help you. Because I know it's hard work that little boy inside of you, and I know that sounds weird to you, but there's a little kid inside of you that's hurt. It's probably hurt deeply. Let's not pass this pain on to another person, onto another generation so that your own little boy or daughter grows up hurt and does this to his or her own kids, Right? I guarantee you I'm a 56 year old man. I'm very confident now. I've been through a lot of stuff, but I am still a little boy. Still a little boy looking for my dad's approval at times because I never got it. That little boy comes out at times and it's hurt. And I don't want to pass on that pain and all of your issues to another generation. You get to be the hero now. You know why I like saying that? Because I'm a man. I like to be the hero. So do you, right? You're the one who gets to stop the pain from passing down through generations in your family. And you're a fighter, right? That's what you want to pass along to your kids. Man, you got to work hard, you got to push through this. You're a fighter and you've done that in your work. You've done it in a lot of different areas. It's time to do that and deal with the stuff from your childhood and deal with this as a dad so we can heal that up and so your family can find the heal. And I'll just say this, if you don't do it, your wife is going to divorce you and leave you. She will. She can't put up with this. She already has to take care of the kids and she has to manage the emotions of your strong will child and she has to manage your emotions because you can't. That's unsustainable. It causes adrenal fatigue, it causes women to shut down and they eventually leave. And you know what happens? All of that time that you put into your work and all that hard work when you busted your butt and you saved and you invest and said half of it's going to be gone. And you know, it's even worse if you don't change. You have to live with yourself for the rest of your life and all your relationships will continue to have this pattern and you will not spend holidays with your kids and your grandparents grandkids. I know it sounds extreme, but it's true. It's how it works. But if you dig in because you are a fighter and you work through this, you'll be proud of yourself and so were your wife and so were your kids. And I'm going to see you as a new man. If I can help you, you reach out to us, reach out to our son or reach out to me directly. Kirk k I r klebratekolm.com and I will work with you. I'll do phone mentoring with you. The easiest thing right now is to either go and get the get everything package, just get that one. It's got everything we put together and it's cheaper than the phone consultations. And look, it's cost of a trip or two to a therapist's office. That's it. You spend a lot more than that on your, all your other stuff that you like to buy. Change yourself, change your family. If we can help, reach out to us. Okay, thank you for listening. Talk to you guys soon. Bye.
Podcast Information:
In Episode 3 of the Calm Parenting Podcast, host Kirk Martin delves into practical strategies aimed at parents—both dads and moms—who grapple with strong-willed children. Drawing from his extensive experience with over 1,500 challenging kids, many diagnosed with ADHD, OCD, ODD, ASD, and other behavioral challenges, Kirk offers actionable insights to alleviate power struggles, reduce yelling, and manage defiance effectively.
Kirk begins by addressing a scenario familiar to many parents: the unintended drift that can occur when parenting styles clash or when unresolved conflicts surface.
Key Points:
Unexpected Challenges: Parents often do not anticipate the extent of challenges they might face with strong-willed children, leading to strained relationships and constant power struggles.
Personal Experience: Kirk shares his personal journey of almost losing his relationship with his son due to his inability to control his emotions, emphasizing the necessity of rebuilding that relationship to establish effective discipline.
Notable Quote:
"When you don't have a relationship, you can't discipline because they're not going to listen to you."
— Kirk Martin [01:20]
Originally intended as "3 Quick Ideas for Dads," Kirk broadens the scope to include moms, emphasizing that these strategies are universally applicable.
Music as a Bonding Tool: Kirk suggests taking an interest in the music your child listens to, even if it's not to your taste. This curiosity can serve as a bridge to connect and understand your child's preferences.
Notable Quote:
"Ask your child why they like that music. Listen to it sometimes. Just try that. It's a good way to bond."
— Kirk Martin [01:20]
Let Your Child Be the Teacher: By inviting your child to teach you something, you empower them and create a collaborative environment. This shift from being the sole authority to a mutual learning experience fosters respect and understanding.
Example: Kirk recounts advising a father who disliked Apple products to engage with his son by asking about the functionalities he appreciates, thereby turning the interaction into a learning opportunity.
Notable Quote:
"Let them teach you how to do something on your phone. Let them teach you. It is a way to bond and it's really cool."
— Kirk Martin [02:15]
Kirk emphasizes the importance of maintaining composure under pressure, akin to professional environments, and provides analogies to illustrate his points effectively.
Quarterback Analogy: Just as a quarterback remains calm during a high-stakes game, parents should emulate this demeanor to guide their children through stressful situations without panicking.
Practical Tip:
Notable Quote:
"Come home and talk to your kids like they're a business colleague. Because at work, you don't freak out on your employees or your colleagues."
— Kirk Martin [06:45]
From Discipline to Teaching: Transitioning from being a strict disciplinarian to a coach can transform the parent-child dynamic, making discipline a tool for teaching rather than punishment.
Notable Quote:
"Discipline needs to teach. But we're usually punishing and getting upset. What we're really telling our kids is, you better behave because if you don't, I'm going to get angry and yell."
— Kirk Martin [08:30]
Dog Catcher and Fireman: Kirk draws parallels between professional roles that require calm and strategic responses to emergencies and how parents can handle their children's emotional outbursts similarly.
Example: Applying the approach used by a dog catcher to soothe an aggressive dog to defuse a child's anger.
Notable Quote:
"Your child is probably angry and a little bit afraid. So what if you took the same approach to approaching your child that you did in your job?"
— Kirk Martin [07:10]
In a heartfelt and direct segment, Kirk addresses fathers specifically, urging them to confront and resolve their own childhood traumas to prevent passing unresolved issues to their children.
Key Points:
Self-Reflection: Fathers are encouraged to acknowledge and work through their own unresolved issues instead of projecting them onto their children.
Breaking the Cycle: By changing themselves, fathers can prevent perpetuating negative patterns and foster healthier, more supportive relationships with their children.
Notable Quote:
"Stop asking your son to deal with your childhood crap that you haven't had the courage and strength to deal with as a grown man."
— Kirk Martin [12:00]
Emphasis on Responsibility: Kirk stresses that true change begins with the parent. Without self-improvement, efforts to discipline or guide children are futile and can lead to further familial discord.
Final Encouragement: Kirk motivates fathers to embrace their role as heroes in their children's lives by undertaking the necessary work to heal themselves, thereby creating a positive and supportive family environment.
Kirk wraps up the episode by reiterating the importance of personal growth and its impact on parenting. He invites listeners struggling with these issues to reach out for support through the Celebration Calm programs, offering resources like the "Calm Parenting Package" and "Straight Talk for Dads" for tailored guidance.
Final Quote:
"Change yourself, change your family. If we can help, reach out to us."
— Kirk Martin [12:50]
Build Relationships: Strong parent-child relationships are foundational for effective discipline and mutual respect.
Engage and Empower: Taking genuine interest in your child's interests and allowing them to teach you fosters bonding and respect.
Maintain Composure: Applying professional strategies to parenting can help manage household tensions and set a positive example.
Personal Growth: Parents, especially fathers, must address their own unresolved issues to prevent negative patterns from affecting their children.
By integrating these strategies, parents can create a more harmonious and supportive family environment, reducing conflicts and enhancing the overall well-being of both children and adults.