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Kirk Martin (0:00)
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Casey Martin (0:02)
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Kirk Martin (1:20)
So how can you get your kids to be more responsible for themselves? How can you get them to clean up their messes? And how can you do this without ruining your relationship or constantly resorting to consequences that don't work? That is what we're going to discuss on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast. So welcome. This is Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. You can find us@celebratecom.com reach out to Casey especially for this one, as he was a hugely messy kid, but now he runs a tight ship in his own home. Kids do change. It's caseycelebratecalm.com take advantage of the big holiday sale to finally get control of yourself and learn how to discipline your kids and teach them without all just resorting to yelling and consequences. So last time we talked about sitting in the midst of the mess until it didn't trigger you. Have you tried that? Because that's your big win, you know, and I want you to do that. So keep working on that. But today, let's lay some foundation here and and then I'm going to walk you through different ways to get your kids to be more responsible. First off, this is normal for kids to be like that. It would be weird if all your kids cared about keeping their rooms and your home as neat and orderly as you do. Just like it would be weird if a kid was as meticulous about my lawn care right as I am as a father. It just doesn't work that way. When you're a kid, you have a hundred other priorities and things you'd rather be doing than cleaning up. It just isn't a priority. And developmentally, it's just very normal. So I'm going to take you through the tough approach in a minute. But I want to address what I think is probably the elephant in the room that we haven't discussed, but that probably should have been included in the previous podcast. Things for you to work on. But it's this. Control your own anxiety about your child's future. Look, if you're a good, conscientious parent who loves their child, which you are, because you're listening to a parenting podcast, then you have this reasonable fear. You're anxious that if your child is a slob or disorganized as a child and you don't correct and teach him or her properly, then they're going to grow up to be disorganized, sloppy, sloppy adults. And that will mean that you all failed to train and raise them properly. And it may mean that no one will marry them and they'll be living in your basement until they're 35. Okay, I probably took that too far. But some of you do have that fear, and there is legitimate anxiety over this. I get that. But here's what I want you to know. While it may seem like a reasonable fear, it simply is not true that a messy kid grows up into messy adult. Now, if you're a hoarder or completely disorganized, and if you're raising them in a home in which you and your spouse are just very disorganized and there's messes everywhere of your own choosing, well, then that may happen, because that's the DNA of your home. But you do have a DNA in your home. And if you and your spouse are pretty organized, your kids are going to grow up like that. Just like if you eat healthy, one day they're going to replicate that after you. Your DNA replicates. Right. But I can assure you that kids change, and they change a lot. We've worked with almost a million families. We had 1500 kids in our home. We followed them, tracked them as they've grown into adults, talk to their parents. And we also have our own child, Casey, whose bedroom and bathroom bathroom were disgustingly horrid when he was a kid. We actually had a saying in our home. Hey, where was Casey? Oh, wherever the crumbs are right. He somehow figured out how to make the biggest messes and not clean them up. And yes, we instituted all kinds of measures that I'm going to share. But here's what I want you to know. As an adult, Casey is completely opposite of how he was at age 7 and 10 and 14 and 16. Casey now owns his own home. If you go to Casey's home, guess what you have to do about upon entering his house? Take your shoes off. And my response is, seriously? Seriously, Casey, you're going to make me take my shoes off in your home after what you did in our home? Why? So you don't track dirt into his house. The kid who seemed to attract dirt and had a bedroom that was disorganized and unruly now has a home that is orderly and clean. Why? Because he owns it. And if you understand the concept of ownership with strong willed kids, it will keep you from fighting them over things throughout their entire childhood. Please listen to that. Enjoying your strong willed child programs how to stop the power struggles. You have to understand how to give them ownership and what that means to them. It's a great, great principle. Look, he owns his home. And he grew up in a home with two parents who like order and structure. So he came back to this when he got his own home. He's meticulous about the things he cares about. He does skiing and backcountry skiing and all kinds of cool. He is meticulous with his stuff. So I want you to chill with your parental anxiety and not project into the future or you will endlessly lecture your child and it won't ever get them motivated and it'll hurt your relationship. And we don't want that. So let's talk about the tough approach. There's no guarantee this is going to work, but it's worth a shot. Hey kids, your room can be a mess, but the living room, the kitchen and stairs, they got to be free of Legos, free of your stuff, free of clothes. If you leave your things lying on the floor in this area, it will cost you $1 per item. You're either going to have to pay me or work that off or I'm going to bag it up, donate it to Goodwill, or I'm going to collect your items and hold them ransom. Now look, some kids will respond well to this, so institute it. Just no drama. Just do it. Do what you said you were going to do. But some simply won't care. You're going to have kids who are going to be like, fine, I didn't really want those Legos anymore anyway. And you're like. So we had a rule with lights left on in the house because when we would wake up in the morning, somehow there would be lights left on in the basement, the hallway, the bathroom, everywhere. So I started exacting a fine for each light that was left on. Did that work with Casey? Yes, to a degree. Looking back now, I think I probably would have just smiled a bit more and just said, hey, go turn the lights off, or I would have just done it myself. Why? Because in the grander scheme of things, that was more about my own anxiety. Well, aren't you teaching your kids good discipline? Yeah, that's a way to do it. But I also teach my kids good discipline by learning how to control myself and actually controlling my own anxiety. Because we have all those things about you left the lights on that's costing me money. It's not costing you much money. You waste way more money doing other things. Right. But we get caught. So I want you. I'm hoping that you'll take advantage of some of my old guy wisdom. Right. Because I've been through this and with a lot of families and say some of these things. It's just more about your uptight and your own anxiety because the things you were raised with and you think, well, if I don't teach them how to do this, they won't learn how to be. It's not true. Focus on the right things, the big things. Now, that said, you can go hardcore, which we would do at times. So let's say the weekend comes and the kids haven't picked up after themselves in a reasonable manner, you could begin to set this expectation and declare martial law in your home. I'm good with that. I recommend that. Just remember, when we're tough with kids, we use few words, we take decisive action, and we do not ever make it personal. We don't lecture and go on and on about ourselves and what we did as kids. We don't yell and scream. There's no drama. It's clear. And I definitely want you to be unified with your spouse on this because there is going to be whining. There will be tantrums and drama on your child's part, just not yours.
