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So how many of you have kids who are fighting, they're squabbling, they're picking on each other? It's annoying. Well, the answer is apparently a lot of you because. Because we are being inundated with emails about this. Which makes sense because we're in the heart of the summer and your kids have been together all the time. So I want to give you some very practical tools that you can use and we're going to cover what do we do with that provoking child? How about the child who gets picked on teaching them to speak up and how can you deal with it so it just doesn't drive you crazy so much? That is what we're going to discuss on this episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast. So welcome. This is Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. You can find us and the final days of our Christmas in july sale@celebratecalm.com I'm going to ask you a favor. This is also the final few days of my special hiking trip with our son Casey. And I had a different podcast already planned and recorded, but I've gotten so many emails and questions, so I was making some notes today. This will not be scripted, but it's going to be really good. And as always, I hope it's very practical and and helpful. So I've got about seven points to make here. So let's roll. Number one with sibling squabbles and fights. Accept it, it's normal. It would be weird to me if you had kids who were not getting on each other's nerves. You have probably been married for a while, you get on each other's nerves, you squabble. And you're grown adults, so why would you expect anything different from our kids? From the beginning of if you read any ancient literature, it is filled with stories of what siblings who were fighting. And so some of you, it's hard because you grew up with no siblings and so you think this is awful and you're not doing anything wrong. I want you to know I grew up with three brothers. It was a part of our childhood. We are grown adults now and we still squabble and we give each other a hard time, but we love each other. You're not doing something wrong. There's nothing abnormal about this. Now to me, sibling fights tend to come from two or three different things. Number one is boredom. You have kids, strong will kids, kids on the spectrum, ADHD kids who need a lot of brain stimulation. Well, if I get bored, well what is my brain going to tell me to do? All I have to do is poke my brother or look at my sister and then they react to me and now I'm in complete control of their behavior. Now mom or dad is coming in the room, leave your sister alone. And I just changed the behavior of three people by looking at my sister. That solves my boredom. It's just a negative way to do it. So we don't want that. So we'll address that. Number two is resentment. If you have a strong willed child, they have likely been the black sheep of the family. They're in trouble all the time and they feel like you favor the other siblings. And so they will grow resentful toward the sibling that does so well in school, and everything's easy for them, and they get invited to sleepovers. That's very normal. We'll address that. And related to that one is confidence. Look, people who are confident, who feel good about their future, who have a vision, they tend not to put other people down. They tend not to pick on other people because they're secure and they're so focused on the good things in their life. They don't need to pick out all the negative things in other people. So building confidence is hugely important. I would encourage you to go back and listen to, I think it was at the end of June, maybe June 25, we did one on six ways to build your child's confidence. Over the summer. You get your child with a vision, building confidence, a lot of the sibling issues go away. And I'll get to that in a bit. Okay. Number two, I'm going to encourage you to, next time your kids are squabbling and doing this, sit in the midst of it and ask questions. A dad had emailed and said, I used to shut down all the sibling squabbles and fights because they irritated me, both the fight and the kids. And I just wanted peace and quiet. I started listening to your programs, going through the 30 days to calm, and I realized I. I was part of the problem. I listen to this. This is interesting insight from this dad. I was giving the kids complete power over my emotions, my tone of voice, my entire day. I was giving these sibling squabbles complete power over me. They were irritating, in charge of me. And he said, I actually became the third participant in. In this. And the kids knew it. And the truth is, I was more reactive than the kids because my wife told me that later. She's like, look, the two kids fighting, I kind of deal with that. But when you come in, raising your voice and now you're tense, now I've got three of you to deal with. And kudos to this dad and all of you who are working on this. So he said, I did what you said in your programs because I think I have this on. The Stop Sibling Fights program is pop some popcorn. Just pop some popcorn and walk into the room and sit down and put your feet up and eat some popcorn and begin asking questions. Hey, I'm curious. What's going on? What set you off? Why are you saying that to your brother? Try to identify the root of it. And then you can say to the child who's like, oh, he's irritating me. Say like, yeah, it bothers me, too. I have a high need for order. I have this sense of justice because this dad said he's a little bit on this spectrum, like one of his kids. And so you start identifying with it and you start breaking it down. Instead of, hey, cut it out. You go to your room. You go to your room until you two can play together. No screens, nothing else in the house. That's not teaching them. What this dad started doing, he said it felt great because it's what I do in my job. I problem solve. And so now I was trying to break it down and say, hey, what could we do differently? And now that I was slowing my world down, like you talk about, I could see the situation so much more, so much more clearly. So number three, and here's what the dad started working on it, and I have in my notes, instead of just sitting in it, lie down in the midst of it. Because this is one of my favorite examples of two siblings are fighting in the living room. You walk into the living room and you lie down in the middle of the living room floor. Why? Because your kids will stop what they're doing and say, what are you doing? And be like, well, I was just listening. I was just observing this. And then you can start teaching. Because discipline means to teach. It doesn't mean to punish. To send to the child's room. And you can say to the, let's start with a provoking child. Hey, provoking child. Hey, do you know why you're doing this? Because I kind of have an idea. I think what happens is you've got this really busy brain and you hate being bored. You get bored, you start picking on your brother or sister because they reacted to you. Well, that's pretty smart of your brain to do. The only problem with that is you tend to get in trouble for that and lose some of your privileges. And I know at the end of the day, it doesn't feel good to pick on your brother or sister. So I've got an idea for you, because here's what else I know about your brain and your heart. You love money because many of your kids, they're born entrepreneurs. And it's not an unhealthy like love, like greed. They like making money. And number two, you've got a big heart. So I have an idea for you. You have a choice. From now on, you may continue to pick on your brother and sister, but it just doesn't end well for you. So if instead you want to come help me fix dinner? I've got to do something in the garage. I. I bet we could brainstorm three different ways for you to earn some money in this neighborhood, around the house. And with that money, well, you can buy your own stuff, but you could also give money to, say, St. Jude's to kids with cancer. And I'll even match a part of that. So what I'm doing is instead of, you're a bad kid. Why do you always pick on your brother? You can't ever just be quiet, go to your room now. I'm teaching him now, son, this is why you're doing that. Because your child is likely going to struggle with this for the rest of his or her life. Because I'm an older guy, I have adhd. I know I need that brain stimulation, but now I know how to get that need met in positive, proactive ways. Like, that's why I hike a lot of to get that energy out. And there are several other ways, but then you've equipped your child to know I need to know how to deal with this. By the way, with young men, it is a huge issue. Now with gambling because it's online, it's free now, like it's legal, so you can gamble and all the other porn, everything else is available that's highly addictive and very stimulating for the brain. So I want to start teaching kids and, hey, you're going to need to know how to do this, and I'm going to teach you how to do it in positive ways. So this is a mission, using your brain to make money to give money to a charity. And that will be very stimulating to you. And so do you see how that works? I've just taught him something and I love doing that. Now with the other child who gets picked on, you can teach them how to handle conflict and speak up for themselves. Because a lot of the other siblings are really sweet kids who are people pleasers. And I want you to let them know it's not mean for you to say no to your brother or sister. That is called demonstrating self respect. Your brother or sister will only have respect for you if you demonstrate self respect. And so I would script this form and actually role play because it's hard for some of these kids to speak up and say, you know what, I don't want to do that, but I would go play X or Y game with you. Here's another one. I'm not going to play if you're just going to cheat or quit. I just want to Play to get better. But I don't care if I win or lose and I don't need to be better than you. See now that that's kind of a little bit advanced because that's what's going on with the provoking child. They quit because they feel insecure. If I lose, that makes me a loser. So having the other child be able to speak up and say no, I don't want to do that is a fantastic life skill because these kind of kids, these kids are the ones who get taken advantage of in life and some of you are like this and I have part of that, I'm part kind of strong willed and part people pleaser in me. And I know the pattern, which is someone asked me to do something or for something and I know inside like no, I don't really want to do that. But I say yes to it because I think, well, I'm being a nice guy and then I immediately start to beat myself up. Why did I do that? I don't want to do that. I'm so stupid. And some of you have been through that. So I want you to use. It's what I've said before with meltdowns, they're a huge opportunity to teach your kids life skills. So these siblings, fights and squabbles instead of seeing as oh it's so irritating. I give my kids all these different things and they can't even play well together. It is a huge opportunity to teach them life skills that they will use for the rest of their lives. So I bet your families like ours during summer life gets so busy we don't always have time to grocery shop or cook. Thanks to Hungryroot, we shop on our own schedule and make healthy home cooked meals. 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Now, I don't want you to tell your kids about all your different marriage issues, but they can usually tell some of them and it's this of like, honest talk with your kids. Of like, look, we're still figuring this out as two grown adults. And as your kids get older, you can teach them about how to compromise. You can if you want, tell them a little bit about, like, hey, here was my childhood. This is what I struggled with. So like, for us it was, well, I had a career military father, and so he was abusive toward us and really toward my mom a lot. And so what I learned was conflict is bad. And so what you do is you run away from conflict. Whereas my wife came from a background where she was abandoned, actually by both her parents in some ways, but especially her dad. And so what happened is if something was happening and she wanted to talk and bring something up, I was like, oh, that's conflict, that's bad. I run away and disappear. Which triggered her abandonment issues even more. It was like a perfect storm in our home. We were like perfectly imperfect for each other. And so we had to learn in the middle of our marriage how to handle conflict. And have those discussions. And so there's some modeling. Your kids pick up on all the, a lot of those subtle things that are happening in the kitchen with those conversations. They can hear your tone of voice change as you're talking to each other. So just be aware of that. That, that is really good modeling for how to handle conflict, how to compromise, and how to come together, forgive each other at the end of the day. Super important. Okay, Number seven, confidence issue. So you may have heard me talk about this before, but I love mission and mentor. Getting kids using their natural gifts, talents and passions, what they're good at. That's a mission. Something larger than themselves and a mentor. It doesn't have to be an official mentor, just another adult who can do two things, who can encourage them and also hold them accountable because other adults can do. Look, if you sent one of your strong will kids out to like live with us for the summer, your child would be awesome for us. Is that because we're so good at this? No, we're just not you. Right. Like, our kids are great for other people, just not their parents. And I would get them to work and I'd be like, oh, I don't know why you're having problems with your son or daughter. They do everything we ask them to do. Well, they're so diligent. They're outside working in the yard, they're doing all these things. And so. But I could, I could do two things. One, I could hold your child accountable and say, hey, you got to cut that out or you need to do a better job. And I talk to them in an even matter of fact tone. I wouldn't use that really sweet tone or I wouldn't lecture them. And they probably listen to me because I'm not their parent. And I could also encourage them in ways that really meant something because mom and dad have to say nice things about me, but another adult doesn't. So you've heard me talk. I would do this. Find a neighbor, an elderly neighbor, a mom who needs help with her kids. Because some of you have people in the neighborhood who really need some help. And your kids are really good with younger kids. So babysitting or going down there and being mother's helper, helping an elderly couple do stuff around their house. Here's what it provides, space and place. So let's say your provoking child, your strong willed child, goes down to a neighbor's house for a couple hours every few days or lives with them, goes for a couple of days. Well, now there's Space because they're out of the house for a little bit and that gives the other siblings space away from that more provoking child. And it gives them a place that is their own. Because we've talked about the fact that our kids are, do not compete well in the kid world. And so they don't get grades as well. They're not as good at school. Just roll with me. They're not as good in school as their siblings. Maybe they may not be socially as adept as their siblings. So when they have their place and they're down there and they're helping another human, you know what it does inside? It's like I have something to give, I can help other people. Could be service projects, dropping them off somewhere to help feed the homeless or at an animal shelter. All those things are really, really good. Starting their own little business. Parent just emailed and said, hey, we took your advice, did that. And our son, his name is Max, he is now has a power washing business and he called it powermax. Well, guess what? Now that kid is going around the neighborhood handing out flyers, cold calling indoors. And this is your child who's really good at sales because they're persuasive and they don't stop. And that child is out all day working power washing, making money. Well, guess what? He doesn't have time and energy for now. Picking on his brother and sister because he's got a vision and a mission and he's busy. And that builds confidence. It's really, really cool how that works. So please put some time to that. I always like to say sibling issues usually are not really sibling issues. It's more so that it's a boredom issue or it's a resentment issue or it's a confidence issue. So I really put some time into thinking maybe there's someone at work, a colleague that you work with that could use some help with some kind of project that your child might be good at doing. Anyway, enough on that. Okay? Here's a really cool email that I kind of, I think I'm going to close with this one because it's really good. It was, and I, and I use it to encourage you because a lot of parents this summer are doing this and I love this, they're letting their kids listen to our programs because this is not the wizard of Oz. There are no secrets here. And you can't keep secrets from a strong willed child. They know all your weaknesses, they know all your buttons, they know all your triggers. What I want them to understand is why they do things and so over the summer, while there is time, while you're driving to places, while they're just while the kids are bored, if you want to do camp boredom like we talked about, and your kids and you have time. So here's what a kid said. His parents let him listen to our programs. And he said, I never understood before why I cheated, why I quit games, why I. Why I changed the rules. I always felt bad and I was embarrassed and I always thought that I was a really bad kid and I had so much shame inside. But now I understand why. I was just a kid. And it was interesting. He's saying that as if he's 30 now. But he said I was just a kid who didn't understand myself, who felt out of control. And he said I never understood why. I always like to collect little things. And his parents had said he always had like little stones and acorns in his pockets. And again, he's getting this self knowledge and self awareness to know. Oh, when things feel out of my control, when I don't feel good about myself, then I seek to control other people in situations. How many of us did not learn that about ourselves till we're 35 or 40, or if you're a man, not until you're 50, because we're really slow at this stuff sometimes. And now you have a kid who's understanding himself. So guess what he started doing? He talked to his parents and said, I really am not that interested in the kid world, but I really am interested in the adult world. Can I start doing more adult jobs around the house? So guess what he's doing? He's changing the oil in the car. And he is doing outdoor jobs and he is cooking a meal one night a week for his parents. And so it's cool when you start to teach your kids why they are doing certain things so they can make adjustments. Part of the reason none of us adults or kids make changes is because we don't really understand what's happening underneath. We just. We're kind of on autopilot. Even with our eating and our diets and our food, food we don't understand. But when you understand what your body's craving and why, you can say, oh, now I get it now I don't feel helpless anymore to make those changes. So I would encourage you let your kids listen to the programs. We have them on sale. It's Christmas in July sale. If you need additional help, just email Casey. But I really want you to use this summer to understand what triggers you so your kids understand so you can make changes. All right, that's enough. Look, I really respect you all. You listen to a parenting podcast and you're working on yourselves, and so thank you for that. I promise you, it is all worth it. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing the podcast, subscribing to the podcast. If we can help you anyway, let us know, okay? Love you all. I hope your kids. I hope your kids start squabbling as soon as this thing is over. Or maybe right in the middle of it, they did. So you can go and practice some of these things that we talked about. You've got this. You've got this. Moms and dads.