Calm Parenting Podcast #553: Kids Who Act Like Nothing Happened After Meltdown, Laugh When Disciplined?
Host: Kirk Martin
Date: January 14, 2026
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode addresses a perplexing parenting scenario: strong-willed children who have explosive meltdowns, say hurtful things, and then later act as if nothing happened—or laugh during discipline efforts. Kirk Martin explores why children respond this way, what’s really going on inside them, and, most importantly, gives listeners practical, emotionally intelligent strategies to move beyond power struggles and build resilient, respectful relationships. The focus is on moving away from shame and punitive reactions, and toward real teaching, connection, and long-term emotional growth for both parent and child.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Why Kids "Forget" the Meltdown or Laugh When Disciplined
- Shame is at the root
Kids often feel deep embarrassment and helplessness about their outbursts. Acting like nothing happened is a coping mechanism. - Awkwardness, not defiance
When kids laugh during discipline, it’s rarely outright disrespect; it’s an awkward defense against embarrassment.“It’s not usually disrespect. It’s just awkward for them.” (08:37)
- Adults don’t like facing their missteps either—Kirk offers self-reflection about his own mistakes, normalizing the challenge.
- Children may already be deeply beating themselves up—additional parental shame or lectures are often “piling on.”
2. The Harmful Cycle of Shaming and Lecturing
- Personal example: Kirk recalls his own adult “tantrums” and discomfort facing family after.
“Now imagine being a kid having two parents sitting you down, looking you in the eyes, and they begin lecturing you…” (10:24)
- Forced apologies or parental venting: These create defensiveness, deepen shame, and damage trust.
- Background matters: Many parents repeat patterns from their own childhoods or belief systems—especially if they grew up with “angry authority figures.”
3. What Does Discipline Actually Mean?
- Discipline = to teach
The real purpose of these moments is to teach emotional skills, not to extract apologies or prove parental authority. - Kirk challenges parents to reflect on their goal:
“Do you want to check off some parenting box, or do you actually want to teach your child to handle the frustration that caused this in the first place?” (15:59)
4. A Transformative, Humble Approach: Kirk and Casey’s Story
- Setting: After his son Casey’s meltdown, instead of lecturing, Kirk chooses humility. He sits near his son, avoids eye contact (to reduce shame), and quietly builds Lego.
- Statement of humility:
“Hey, Case, I’m sorry I reacted like that downstairs. I shouldn’t have said that.” (22:58)
- This disarms shame, leads to genuine contrition, and opens the door to reconnection—a far cry from punitive cycles.
- Children are looking to see if it’s safe to be vulnerable:
“…he wants to be close to his dad or his mom, because that’s the way it’s supposed to work. And I’m telling you, it better be safe for your kids or they will lie and sneak and hide things from you.” (25:59)
5. Modeling and Teaching Repair & Emotional Skills
- Humility is powerful: Apologizing as a parent models taking responsibility for emotions.
- Reconnection through activity: Doing Legos together restores the bond, making it safe for Casey to apologize unprompted.
- Consequences handled after emotions cool:
- Kirk invites Casey to choose an appropriate consequence the next day, which is both fair and more meaningful.
- Example: Act of service as a consequence, promoting restoration over punishment.
6. The Real Work: Equipping Kids for Next Time
- Role-playing solutions: Rather than rehashing what happened, Kirk and Casey practice handling disappointment differently.
- Important quote:
“The consequence, sure, it’s important… But that’s not enough. Because when…the next time frustration, disappointment, anxiety come in, the consequence doesn’t really relate to that.” (29:55)
- Discussing coping strategies and building an “action plan” for moments of intense emotion is key.
7. Breaking Generational Patterns
- Parents must do their own “inner work” to avoid repeating cycles of shame and anger.
- Goal: Create a family culture where kids feel safe to come to their parents—even after failures or transgressions.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On why kids act like nothing happened:
“Our kids are ashamed or embarrassed about their behavior because they know how irrational and awful it was.” (07:42)
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On the tendency to lecture:
“They already know it was wrong, but now they feel embarrassed and ashamed and kind of afraid of this awkward conversation you’re going to have.” (09:40)
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On the parent’s inner turmoil:
“Am I letting this kid get away with things? ... What have we done wrong? ... Why is he doing these things?” (19:55)
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On humility as a parent:
“Sometimes humility is a very powerful tool that breaks down walls. Humility leads to contrition instead of a forced apology.” (23:25)
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On reconnection:
“Motion changes emotions. When kids are upset, you give them something they are in control of.” (25:18)
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On the long-term relationship:
“I can tell you, Casey’s a grown man now and I can’t express to you how much it means to me when Casey will text or call and say, ‘Dad, can I talk to you about something?’ He’s seeking my wisdom. He trusts me to open up.” (29:10)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [03:27] — Main Topic Begins: “So you have a child who lashes out…”
- [07:05] — Why kids “forget” meltdowns or laugh when disciplined
- [10:24] — Kirk’s adult example of facing family after a meltdown
- [15:59] — Reflection on the purpose of discipline, not shame
- [19:55] — Parent’s emotional wrestling and fear of “letting kids get away with it”
- [22:58] — The Lego story: Apology, humility, and safe reconnection
- [25:18] — How giving kids control in activity calms emotions
- [27:42] — Use of collaborative consequences
- [29:55] — Teaching proactive skills for future emotional challenges
- [29:10] — Vision for lifelong trust with your strong-willed kids
Final Reflections
Kirk Martin encourages parents to embrace humility, model honest self-reflection, and prioritize teaching over shaming. Repairing after a meltdown isn’t about “letting kids get away with things,” but about creating a family dynamic where emotional safety and growth are possible. In doing so, you break negative generational patterns and raise resilient, emotionally intelligent children who turn to you—not away—when life gets hard.
For further help:
- Visit CelebrateCalm.com
- Email: Casey@CelebrateCalm.com
Quote to remember:
“You are breaking generational patterns. You are learning new skills that you didn’t learn from your own parents. So you’re growing up just like I am while your kids are growing up.” (31:30)
