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Kirk Martin (0:00)
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Kirk Martin (1:20)
So a couple approached me after one of our live events and asked me this. Dad said hey, we had four $100 bills in a cupboard and after selling something and then noticed that three of the bills were missing, our daughter informed us that she had seen the missing money in our son's room. Now I played like I didn't know. I got down at my son's eye level and I asked him if he had taken the money and he denied it. So I then placed him over my knee to give him a spanking and he confessed. And I admit that I was kind of irritated that he lied to my face and then that kind of breaks our trust so I gave him an extra spanking. What would you have done differently in this situation? That is what we're going to discuss on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast. So welcome. This is Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. You can find us and our big spring sale@celebratecalm.com so a few thoughts to come to mind. One is I have a very distinct bias here. I expect the kid to grab the $100 bills. I I don't know if you've ever seen $100 bills, but they're really cool looking and it's a lot of money so I'd be shocked if a kid didn't go for that. Since the beginning of time, there have Been countless stories of people wanting the forbidden fruit. It's human nature. My only question is, why did the kid only take 3 of the bills and not all 4? So I want you to know you're not a bad parent if your child misbehaves, takes things, cuts in line, melts down, throws a tantrum, lies and covers things up. I get tired of people judging you as parents because your kids act like kids. That's what they do. So why would this surprise us that a kid stole some tantalizing looking $100 bills? Am I excusing it? Absolutely not. Was it right of him to do it? Absolutely not. I just don't get all that worked up and create all kinds of drama around this. Wringing my hands and talking late at night in hushed tones, kvetching over whether our child is a thief or a kleptomaniac or what did we do wrong? Number two, your child lied. That's normal. And I will just throw this in there. If you have kids who have been adopted, and even if you adopted them from birth, a lot of those kids, I would say a majority of those kids, are probably going to take things and lie about it. It is so very common. And I will tell you, in some ways it's actually a good sign. It means your child has a conscience and knows he did something wrong. He knew he shouldn't have taken the $100 bills because kids from a young age know you shouldn't steal, lie, hit, spit, throw things, say I hate you, mommy, and be mean to others. They already know that. So when they naturally and impulsively misbehave, which is what they're supposed to do. Kids are supposed to be impulsive. 35 year olds aren't. They know instinctively. Oops, I shouldn't have done that. Now I might get in trouble for that and lose my toys or my video games or my car keys. So what do they do? They lie. They to see if they can get away with it. Look, there's no moral ambiguity here. There's no lead for a long lecture about stealing. Please stop with those cringy lectures about. Well, we just need to talk about integrity issues. I hate those. It's not an integrity issue. It's an impulse control issue. It's a human nature issue. So the boy in this story knew when he first set his eyes and fingers on those crisp $100 bills that it was wrong. And that's why he hid them in his room. That's why he lied when asked about it, because he knew it was Wrong. But he didn't want the consequences. He didn't want to get caught disappointing his parents. And in some cases, and this was, I was telling the dad, he was probably afraid of your reaction, as he should have been given that your reaction was over the top. You got frustrated, went too far. He was afraid of your reaction. He was afraid of the consequence you give. So he lied right to your face. Just think about this. Parents often say, well, we have kids who make up stories and lie, and it's a trust issue. I know you do they. That is very true. But I like to look at it from a different perspective. It's often a trust issue because your kids can't trust you and your reaction. They are afraid of your harsh reaction. In this case, a spanking, out of frustration that they cannot trust you enough to tell you the truth. Does that make sense? See, it makes perfect sense to me. And please note this. It's not just that our kids fear the consequences of getting caught. They don't like disappointing us, and they often feel embarrassed and ashamed by their behavior and they want to hide it. Sometimes they fear the anger and they dread the long lectures that we give. Please know also, direct eye contact can be intimidating. Sometimes it's just too intense. And at the time of their greatest shame, we're staring right down into their souls. And that's why I prefer having hard talks while walking the dog together, riding in a car, building on the floor with Legos, coloring, playing catch, working on a project in the garage, cooking together side by side, next to each other. Not me against you. I've talked about this with our discipline becomes, I'm really frustrated at you. And it's me against you. You. And now the child is on the defensive. What were you thinking? How many times do I have to tell you that? And I'd rather come alongside of them and say, look, I'm curious. I know that you know that is wrong to do, and I'm curious, why did you do it? Because it just brings dire consequences upon you. See, most of their behavior, it doesn't offend me, doesn't hurt me. You're just hurting yourself. And so what I want to become is that I want to come alongside and become the trusted person that they can look to to help them stop doing these things. Not just the angry person who's going to punish them. And you've got to watch and see where you got those ideas from, that the authority figure just punishes you. Some of you, it was your parents. Some of you, it was your religious Upbringing. And that will seep right into your own parenting. One thing I had to be aware of is that I was more intimidating than I thought, even when I started becoming the calm dad. Because my dad ruled our home and his four boys through fear and intimidation. It's not my goal. I don't want my son to listen to me because he fears me. I don't want him to obey out of obligation or fear. I want him to listen to me because he trusts me and he respects me. And that respect isn't because I'm the authority figure. It's because I've earned it, because I'm trustworthy. I'm worthy of being trusted. I wanted him to listen to me because he knows that I have his best interests at heart, and I come alongside him to help him. And that might be a little mind shift for some of you. So this week, let's begin practicing this. Create an environment in which you make it easy for. For your child to tell you the truth without the shame and anger and reaction and drama. You want a weird. It's just kind of an odd but effective idea. And I encourage you. Practice this. You could tell your kids this. Hey, I want to apologize to you because I think I've made it hard for you to come and tell me the truth. Because when you do and just fill in the blank, I lecture. I talk too long. I make you feel 2 inches tall. I react and get angry. See, I think that's just good honesty. Because that's what does happen. And what happens with our kids is they get in the habit of lying. It just becomes a reflexive habit for many of your kids. So you could work on this together and tell your kids, I want to practice a couple things. I want you to practice telling me the truth, Things that are hard, things that might you be afraid to tell me. And I promise you, I will not lecture, react, or get angry. See, you're both physically practicing a new skill in your home. I love that. Point number three, this slight game of gotcha here by the dad, that was dishonest, right? You asked him if he had taken the dollar bills, but you already knew that he had. Unless your daughter is a psychopath who planted the dollar bills in his room to make him look bad. So in a way, what you did as the dad here was a form of entrapment. That didn't need to happen. And look, we all do these things. If you know that your child didn't wash her hands or brush her teeth or do her homework, stop asking her if she did when you already knew that she didn't. That is dishonest yourself. It's not a trustworthy way of handling these situations because you're basically kind of asking your child to lie and then you're going to ask, but why won't my child just tell me the truth? Well, do you ever tell your spouse or friends or own parents white lies or just flat out lie to spare an uncomfortable situation or drama? Probably. Look, it would be kind of surprising if at first the kid looked right into his parents eyes and said, hey, I took that money and then I hid it in my room. And then when you asked, I lied and deceived you. Look, I'm picturing the end of a Scooby Doo episode where the kid says, and my evil plot would have succeeded if not for that rat fink sister who ratted me out. And this is. Look, this is possible to do. It is possible to teach your kids to be honest. We got there with Casey by practicing it. A mom just emailed last week and said it worked by changing my reaction. Instead of my kids, they're now being upfront and I honest, I never thought this would work. I always thought they had integrity issues, but it was my reactions all along. You know, for a lot of kids, you know what they they really fear most? It's just our reaction. It's that disappointment, that shame. It's not so much taking things away. Okay, now what about the spanking issue? Let's just cover that really quickly.
