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In 1959, nine hikers walked into a.
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Snow covered mountain range and were never seen again.
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What investigators found was more than just a gruesome crime scene. It was one of the most notorious unsolved mysteries ever. People reported strange lights in the sky, radiation on clothing, maybe even a government cover up. And this might all sound like science fiction, but this is a true story.
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That actually happened deep in the Russian wilderness.
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And today, what happened to those nine hikers is still unsolved.
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And yet many theories abound. Was it the Russian military that did an operation that went sideways?
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Was it an avalanche? Was it ravenous animals? Was it aliens? Or was it even a yeti?
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The truth about what happened out there is still a mystery.
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But the clear evidence of something unexplainable.
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Happening is what drives investigators crazy.
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Now, this is the Dyatlov Pass incident. So sit back, relax, and welcome to Camp.
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What's up, people? And welcome back to camp. My name is Mark Gagnon and thank you for joining me in my tent, where every single week we explore the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from around the world.
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From all times.
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Yes, this is a real life Ripley's.
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Believe it or not book that got turned into a show somehow. Yes.
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This is what we do here. All right. I'm sure you're like, oh, Mark, when.
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Are you going to talk about what's.
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Going on in the world?
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The wars, the stuff, the politics.
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That's not what we do here.
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All right?
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We are down for solving unsolved mysteries.
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From 50 years ago.
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That's what we do here.
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Okay?
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So welcome to the show and thanks for coming to my tent. All Right.
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You're always welcome to hang out with me in this cozy little, you know, this little cozy nook that I have.
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Deep, deep in the woods, far, far.
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Away in Brooklyn, New York.
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And as always, I'm joined by my dear friend Christos, the Greek freak himself.
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The legend from Athens, the hammer is what they call him, Thor's hammer.
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Right, sure. What's a Greek God?
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Hercules.
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Hercules, yes, the Hercules hammer.
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Dude, that's awesome.
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You are Greek, right? All right, all right, all right. Enough, Christos, okay?
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There's all this yapping about your heritage.
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Today we're not talking about the Greeks.
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Or the Americans, we're talking about the Russians. Technically the Soviets, but I'll probably use that interchangeably.
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But before we begin this, I also just want to point out I'm not Russian, so I'm going to mess up.
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A lot of these words.
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I'm going to do my best, okay?
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I've read very many articles about this and I'm going to try with my best Russian accent. All right? So my apologies on the outset.
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Where does our story begin?
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I'm glad you asked.
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January 1959, in the Ural Polytechnical Institute, there's this 23 year old engineering student named Igor Dyatlov who is organizing what would become a his most ambitious hiking expedition yet. Now, Dyatlov was already known amongst his peers as a very experienced outdoorsman. He had led multiple treks through the Ural Mountains and had a reputation for planning and safety and was very meticulous.
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In everything that he did.
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For this expedition, he assembled a team.
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Of eight other hikers, all with significant experience but also with, you know, jobs you wouldn't expect an experienced hiker to have.
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The group included two radio engineers. Again, I'm going to do my best with the names Zenaida Komogorova, who had.
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Been on previous hikes with Dyatlov, and.
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Georgi Krivonshenko, who worked at a nuclear facility. There were then two mechanical engineering students, Rustem Slobodin, Nicholas Thibault Brionel. Two economics majors, Yuri Doronchenko and Yuri Yudin, a nuclear engineering student, Alexander Kolevatov. And finally, the ninth member was Alexander Zolotaryov, who was significantly older than the others. Zolotaryov was an experienced mountaineer and a World War II veteran who had actually.
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Been added to the group simply so.
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That the group could meet the requirements.
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To go on this university expedition.
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Now, this hike required a grade three certification. This is the highest level of difficulty.
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In Soviet hiking classifications, meaning that they had to Bring either an instructor or someone with just a ton of mountain experience.
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So Latariov was the guy.
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Now, their planned route would take them through some of the most remote terrain in the Northern Urals. This expedition was designed to cover approximately 190 miles over 16 days, starting from.
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The town of Versailles, ending in the village of Vezay. After making a large loop through this.
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Remote Soviet wilderness, this route would take.
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Them past several significant peaks, with their main goal being to reach the top of Ortenden Mountain. After a few days of waiting, their expedition was eventually approved by the Institute Sports Club and the, you know, basically.
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Registered with the local authorities. All of this is required for a serious hiking expedition in the Soviet Union.
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Now, Dyatlov submitted detailed, you know, plans and emergency procedures and the group was expected to send a telegram confirming their.
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Return by February 12th.
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So the journey begins on January 23rd, 1959. The nine hikers took a train to the town of Serov, then continued a.
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Bus to Vishay, the last sort of inhabited settlement before just the wilderness.
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When they arrived in Vishai, they hired a truck to take them as far.
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As possible into the forest before they actually began their trek on foot.
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Now, the group was extremely well equipped for these harsh conditions and they knew basically exactly what they were going to.
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Be facing, or so they thought.
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They carried a large tent designed for winter camping, warm clothing, food for the entire expedition, cameras to document the journey.
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And various pieces of standard hiking equipment, including axes and knives, navigation tools, everything you need. And on January 27, they began their trek on foot. The weather was already getting rough with.
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Snow and strong winds, but nothing that this experienced group of hikers had hadn't ever seen before. They made good progress the first few.
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Days following their planned route and maintained their schedule Exactly. But on January 28, the first complication arose.
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Yuri Yudin began experiencing severe knee and.
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Back pain that made it impossible for him to continue.
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After consulting with Dyatlov and the rest of the group, they decided that Yudin should turn back while he could still.
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Make it to safety. Yudin then returned to Vizhai on his.
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Own, leaving the remaining eight members to.
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Continue towards Alterton Mountain. And this decision ultimately saved his life.
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After Yuden left, the group of eight continued to go deeper into the wilderness.
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Based on their diaries and the photographs.
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That were found later, they seemed to.
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Be in good spirits, making good progress despite obviously the harsh weather.
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Kolmogorova actually wrote, we are having an unusually good time. I can hardly believe we feel so good here. As they continued the trail carried them.
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Through thick forest where the trees were giving them a little bit of shelter from the snow.
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But eventually, the snowfall made the terrain rise.
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That actually forced them to move their camp again. The higher they climbed, the more the wind would tear across the slopes and the more exposed they became.
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On January 31, Rustem Slobodan wrote, cold, piercing wind.
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It's hard to imagine such a thing in a city.
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This goes to show that, again, no amount of training or classrooms could really prepare them for what these mountains were.
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Actually throwing at them.
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The very next day, on February 1st.
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The group was approaching what was now known as Dyatlov Pass, an area between two peaks that offered a potential route for their destination. The weather had just gotten worse. The winds were stronger. The snow was falling even more. But still nothing beyond what these experienced hikers could handle. Or nothing out of the unexpected, you.
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Could say, based on the evidence that's found later. They made camp that evening on the.
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Slope of what's now called Dead Mountain. Literally Kolat sekal, and this is the language of the Mansi people, and it.
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Literally just translates to Dead Mountain. This location that they chose was a little unusual, right, because experienced hikers would.
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Typically avoid camping on this exposed slope.
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Specifically during a storm, and they would.
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Try to find shelter in the forest below.
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Now, we don't know why they chose.
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That particular spot, but there are many theories as to what happened. Perhaps they got lost in the weather conditions.
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And some people even say that they deliberately chose that spot for training purposes.
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So they could actually, like, test their.
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Equipment or their skills in the conditions.
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That they really never got to experience.
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Either way, the group chose this spot.
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Not expecting it to be their final place setting up camp.
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The final photo the group took shows.
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Them digging out a hole for their tents on the side of the slope.
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And it's honestly pretty morbid when you.
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Realize that just a few hours later, all the people in this image would be gone.
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By February 12, it was clear that the group failed to send their expected telegram, and there was initially no immediate alarm.
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Delayed returns were pretty common specifically for these types of expeditions when the weather conditions were challenging and changing so quickly.
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But as the days passed with no word, the hikers, families, and the instructors.
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At their school became concerned.
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So on February 20, a search party.
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Was put together to go find the hikers.
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And after six days of traveling the.
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Same dangerous path that Dyatlov and his.
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Team took, the search party found the.
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Abandoned tent on the slope of Death Mountain.
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But what they discovered on this mountain.
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Would puzzle investigators for Decades, the tent.
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Had been cut open. But here's what's strange. It had been cut open from the.
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Inside with several long slashes made by a knife or something sharp.
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And the rips made it look like.
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The tent had been abandoned really quickly. But there was no signs of internal struggle.
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And here's another weird part.
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Most of the group's belongings are still inside, including boots and warm coats and all their essential cold weather gear.
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They also found footprints in the snow.
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That led away from the tent and actually went downhill towards a nearby tree line about a mile away.
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But not all of the tracks were made from shoes. It appeared that some of the hikers.
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Had left the tent barefoot or just in their socks.
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But the strangest detail about the footprints is that they didn't look like they.
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Were made in distress, necessarily, as if.
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Someone was running away.
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They almost look like they were calmly and evenly spaced out, almost as if the hikers were almost casually walking down the slope.
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And as a search for the missing hikers continued, the searchers would have way.
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More questions than they bargained bargain for.
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The first two bodies, Yuri Doroshenko and.
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Georgi Krivonischenko, were found on February 27, about a mile from the tent. They were found lying under a cedar tree next to the remains of a small campfire. But the weird thing is that both of them were found barefoot, wearing only their underwear.
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And the cedar tree they were under.
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Showed signs that someone had climbed it. Branches were broken from the top, and.
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There was even pieces of of flesh from the two guys.
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Hands stuck in the bark as if they kept climbing it over and over again.
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But whether it was in a desperate attempt to flee something or maybe to.
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Gather firewood or try to see a vantage point, we don't know.
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Another thing that investigators found was the fact that Krivonischenko had a piece of.
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His own hand in his mouth and the tip of his nose was missing.
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Not far from the spot, searchers began.
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To find more members of the group.
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Between the cedar and the tent site.
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They came across Igor Dyatlov, Zineda Komogorova, and Rustem Slobodin.
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However, the way that Dyatlov and the.
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Others bodies were positioned suggested that they had died while trying to make it back to their shelter, possibly after realizing that whatever had driven them away from the tent was now no longer a threat.
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For two months, the search effort continued.
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To try to find the final four hikers. And on May 5, a Mansi native of, you know, the native group that lived there, named Kurikov was walking with.
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His dog when he noticed some cut.
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Branches that were forming, almost like a trail near the cedar trees.
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When he followed the trail, he ended.
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Up finding a pair of black cotton sweatpants that had the right leg cut off with a knife.
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After this discovery, they searched the area and ended up finding a massive den.
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That the surviving hikers had basically dug out in an attempt to get away from the freezing winds.
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But what they found next to the.
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Den would change the entire investigation, because.
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Just a few feet away, investigators dug.
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Out a ravine and they discovered the last four hikers.
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But these four victims looked completely different from the others. They were wearing more appropriate clothing. They were better dressed, Right. They were also wearing clothes that appeared to have been taken from the other.
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Two who had died first.
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And even more strange, their injuries were more severe.
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The autopsy results on the four bodies found in the ravine raised a lot of questions about what actually happened that night.
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Thibault Brindelel had suffered a major skull fracture that would have been fatal. The injury was described as consistent with.
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A severe blow to the head. But there are no external wounds or other signs of an attack.
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Dubinina and Zolotorov had suffered multiple broken ribs. Dubinina had six broken ribs on one.
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Side, four on the other, while Zalotorov had five broken ribs on one side.
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Medical examiners claimed that it would have.
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Taken the force of, like, a truck to cause the damage that was done.
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But the strangest of all, Dubinina was.
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Missing her tongue, her eyes, and parts of her face.
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The medical examiner attributed this to natural.
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Decomposition or animal predation, considering her body had been partially submerged in the ravine for several months.
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However, Zalotorov was also missing his eyes, and both he and Dubinina had what.
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Appeared to be chemical burns on their exposed skin and clothing.
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And get this, maybe one of the weirdest parts. Some of their clothing even showed elevated.
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Levels of radiation, which, of course, only deepened the mystery and left anyone working on this case just completely confused as to what was going on.
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Now, the official Soviet investigation concluded that the hikers had cut their way out.
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Of the tent and and fled into.
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The harsh winter conditions due to the.
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Report called a compelling natural force. That is what was actually put in the report.
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However, the exact nature of this force.
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Is not really specified in any way.
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And several things actually complicate the investigation. So, first of all, the scene had been disturbed by search teams before a.
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Proper forensic examination actually took place.
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And the remote location made it extremely.
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Difficult to conduct a thorough investigation, especially using, you know 1950s forensic methods.
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The case was classified as having no indication of criminal activity and was ultimately.
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Closed in May of 1959.
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The official cause of death was listed.
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As hypothermia for the first five victims and a combination of hypothermia and physical trauma for the final four.
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However, the lead prosecutor in the case, Lev Ivanov, later revealed that he had been ordered to close the case and.
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That certain evidence had been completely classified.
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He also mentioned reports of strange lights.
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In the sky, what was described as like fireballs on the night of the incident, and these unusual readings on radiation detection equipment after the case files were classified and sealed.
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It only added to this mystery and.
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Over the decades since 1959, numerous theories.
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Have been made to try to explain what actually happened to the Dyatlov group. And these range from everything from natural phenomena to human interference to the military.
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Some of the earliest theories was an avalanche, and some people still hold true to this. Some researchers suggest that a sudden snow.
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Slab could have struck the tent, injuring many of the hikers and basically forcing them to cut their way out.
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But when investigators reached the site, the evidence didn't exactly add up.
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The tent was on a small 15 degree slope, whereas avalanches usually occur on slopes that are, you know, 30 degrees or more. Sure, it's possible, but it's just not typical. There were no signs of a slide path or debris.
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And most compelling of all, the footprints.
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Were actually still visible in the snow.
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Now, oddly enough, the UFO theories have.
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Some plausibility to, you know, obviously the UFO community.
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Witnesses from nearby areas reported seeing these.
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Large, bright orange lights moving across the sky on February 1st and 2nd.
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Remember, even prosecutor Ivanov admitted to seeing.
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These lights in the sky. These theories suggest that the hikers encountered, you know, some type of unknown craft which could explain why they ran away.
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And the strange injuries and the radiation.
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And, you know, how strange and sort of violent the injuries are. Now, even if it's not UFOs, which it's not, it's not UFOs.
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Military theories suggest that the group could have maybe accidentally encountered a secret Soviet.
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Military test, possibly involving nuclear weapons or.
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New weapons people didn't know about, or aircraft or who knows what, which could.
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Explain the elevated radiation levels on some of the clothes and the reports of strange lights.
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However, when you strip away the conspiracy.
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Theory lens and remember that several group.
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Members had worked at nuclear facilities, it.
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Could very much explain the radiation contamination on their clothes.
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But of course, just the very fact.
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That some of the hikers were involved in nuclear sites led to speculation that the whole trek was actually a planned nuclear test set up by the government. Then there's also like the, like, yeti theory or like the Sasquatch thing, which emerged like, partially due to just like, how remote into the wilderness it is. And then of course there's like Russian folklore that they, you know, that many, you know, Russians and Soviets at the time would talk about. They would talk about the menk, which is like this, you know, like yeti, like creature that lived up in the mountains.
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They also noted that the Mansi people.
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Had told these stories of dangerous supernatural creatures that basically inhabited these high places in the mountains. And they looked like these giant man like beings that would prey on human beings that wandered too far.
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Now, proponents of this theory point to.
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You know, the massive force that would cause these injuries and, you know, arguing that only a creature of like, enormous strength could actually cause these external wounds.
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Some of the footprints at the scenes.
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Were even described as being strange. They, you know, some people describe them as being larger than human feet, but this is likely due to the fact that they were wearing socks or, you know, minimal footwear that maybe created a distorted impression on the snow.
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Now, one of the final images taken from the trek actually shows what some people claims, like, is a yeti.
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But a lot of people that, you know, they also claim that this might just be one of the hikers who set up a camera on a stand and walked out into the frame to take a picture of himself.
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You can see the picture here and.
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It will kind of contextualize. It is sort of ominous, but you can see where the theory comes from.
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So either way, the single image is.
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Responsible for the 60 year old theory that they were killed by some sort of like ominous yeti thing.
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In 2019, 60 years after the incident, Russian authorities actually reopened the investigation in.
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An effort to use modern forensic techniques and computer modeling to re examine what happened.
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Now, the official conclusion that was done in 2019 pointed to a specific type.
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Of avalanche called a katabatic avalanche or a delayed slab avalanche.
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Now, according to this theory, the hikers.
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Were forced to cut their way out of their tent when they maybe started to hear the break in the snow or the snow started to accumulate against it and it created a risk of collapse or suffocation.
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Now, the investigators used computer modeling software.
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To show how a delayed avalanche could.
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Have occurred several hours after the hikers.
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Had actually set up their camp, potentially triggered by their presence or changes in the wind conditions.
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So the official story goes like this.
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The hikers would have fled the tent.
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To avoid being buried.
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And so they cut their way out and they left, you know, somewhat quickly.
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They became separated and disoriented in the.
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Darkness and the extreme cold. And the injuries found on four of.
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The victims would have been the result.
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From the force of the avalanche and their falls into the ravine. Now, however, the official explanation still leaves some of the questions unanswered. Why were the footprints so calm and evenly spaced? Why were two bodies found in their underwear? Why were some hikers wearing the clothes of their dead friends? And where did these chemical burns come from?
Mark Gagnon
And what about the lights in the sky? That picture of the yeti thing, Right? Remember that? So the Dyatlov Pass incident is still.
Christos
One of the most studied and debated mysteries in modern history. I mean, you have this combination of.
Mark Gagnon
Like, these experienced hikers, extreme conditions, weird evidence, government secrecy of, like, kind of.
Christos
Folding up this whole story, and it just creates the perfect storm for speculation.
Mark Gagnon
And what makes this case really compelling.
Christos
Is that it involves, you know, these.
Mark Gagnon
Experienced people that should have been able.
Christos
To handle these winter conditions, yet something caused them to abandon their shelter altogether. Now, the incident has inspired numerous books and movies, and today the past where the tent was found has actually been officially renamed to Dyatlov Pass in honor of the leader of the group.
Mark Gagnon
And perhaps most importantly, the case kind.
Christos
Of just highlights just how crazy nature is, right?
Mark Gagnon
Like, even the most experienced hikers with.
Christos
The right equipment can face these situations.
Mark Gagnon
Where even, like, a small mistake or.
Christos
Like, a weird, unexpected event can get you and eight of your friends killed. Now, whether the official avalanche explanation is correct or other factors were involved, nine experienced hikers died in circumstances that we honestly still can't confirm. Now, today, Dyatlov Pass is a tourist destination where people can walk on the same path that the nine hikers did.
Mark Gagnon
There's even a memorial at the exact.
Christos
Location where the group's tent was found. And people go there, you know, every year to leave all sorts of trinkets and things to honor their memory. Now, what do we think about this?
Mark Gagnon
I don't know. I mean, there's a great website for.
Christos
The record, dialoguepass.com I think is what it's called. And it has, like, all the photos.
Mark Gagnon
All the evidence, like, super, super detailed.
Christos
Stuff that seems, like, super granular. But if you're obsessed with this case and you're fascinated by it, I would recommend you go check it out. I really think the avalanche thing makes the most sense.
Mark Gagnon
Like, look, these guys worked at a nuclear facility.
Christos
They might have some, you know, radiation on their clothes. That seems very obvious to me.
Mark Gagnon
Why are the other people, like, naked?
Christos
It's like, okay, maybe they found their. The bodies of their dead homies and like, hey, we're freezing to death, we can't find our camp, We're Gonna take your guys's stuff. Why were the branches all broken? It was like, oh, maybe someone else tried to climb it.
Mark Gagnon
Like, to me, it seems obviously okay. The group. The avalanche comes. Bang.
Christos
They get. They're like, oh, we're about to get crushed by this. This, you know, specific type of avalanche. This is pretty sketchy.
Mark Gagnon
They didn't think the avalanche was going.
Christos
To come because they were on the right slope. They were like, oh, this is not that. This is not avalanche territory. But they didn't realize that there was a specific, specific type of avalanche that actually just kills hikers on this specific part of the mountain. So it happens. They're like, oh, we're about to die. They cut their way out. They're like, okay, let's just walk down a little bit, wait for this avalanche to pass, because this avalanche is literally going to just, like, swallow us up if we don't get out of here. They walk out. They go. Let's just wait a minute.
Mark Gagnon
We'll go back. The group gets separated.
Christos
They can't find their way back.
Mark Gagnon
Eventually, the big group finds the two.
Christos
Guys that are, you know, in their underwear. And they're obviously not in their underwear at the time. They have jackets. They take their jackets. They try to climb the tree to, like, see if they can, like, find where their camp is. They can't find it. They go back down. They go back to, you know, where the rest of them are. Like, why are there, like, they have.
Mark Gagnon
Injuries and stuff like that.
Christos
I'm like, dude, they're like, completely getting frozen to death. I'm sure they fell at some point and cracked their heads. Why are their eyes missing? It's like, okay, animals came and ate their bodies.
Christos (additional comments)
Do animals do that, though?
Mark Gagnon
What, do they pick out your eyeballs? Yeah, dude, this is like the whole thing. You ever seen a vulture going to.
Christos
Town on a possum?
Christos (additional comments)
Oh, good point.
Mark Gagnon
That's just like, what they.
Christos
They just be out here. But that's just a free.
Mark Gagnon
That's a freebie about the radiation.
Christos (additional comments)
Isn't there radiation the higher you go up in altitude? So it makes sense.
Christos
That's an interesting question. Can you get a fact check on that? I've never really heard that, but it might be possible.
Mark Gagnon
I mean, what is the sun do that's full radiation and you're closer to the sun? Duh.
Christos
You know, I think that tracks, Christos.
Mark Gagnon
But also, it's like, dude, they work at a nuclear facility, right? Like, that seems so obvious.
Christos
It's like, yeah, I'm also like, what kind of lamps are they using? Do they have like flashlights that happen to have like radiation stuff in them? I don't know if you can even power a flashlight on radiation stuff, but I don't know. That's just my theory.
Mark Gagnon
So again, I know everyone is like, dude, it was a giant terrifying beast.
Christos
I'm like, probably not, because it would have just ravaged them.
Mark Gagnon
They wouldn't have escaped.
Christos
Like, it would have just. They would have got murked.
Mark Gagnon
Is the radiation thing true?
Christos (additional comments)
It's experienced by people in mountainous areas, passengers and on airplanes.
Christos
So yeah, elevated levels of radiation.
Christos (additional comments)
Correct.
Christos
I wonder if they're statistically or like categorically significant that you'd be like, oh, this is the right level. Again, you can probably find this exact info on the website, which people should check out.
Mark Gagnon
But I think that's the most compelling thing to me. Like the Russian military testing thing.
Christos
I've even read theories about this where.
Mark Gagnon
It'S like, oh, the military knew that they were going, so they were using.
Christos
Them as test subjects.
Mark Gagnon
I'm like, dude, there's no way the.
Christos
Military is going to use their Russian nuclear engineers on a hike with their buddies to like merc them out in the mountains.
Christos (additional comments)
But if they're gonna get killed anyway, they don't mind the research that was.
Mark Gagnon
Why are they gonna kill him anyway? What do you mean?
Christos (additional comments)
Like, if they're gonna die anyway?
Christos
Oh, you're saying the avalanche thing plus.
Mark Gagnon
The nuclear plus the military thing.
Christos (additional comments)
Exactly.
Christos
That's a cool theory. I've never heard that one before.
Christos (additional comments)
Jackpot.
Mark Gagnon
So they actually find them and they.
Christos
Say, hey, we're not going to save them. We're actually going to use this for testing.
Mark Gagnon
But then their bodies aren't like nuked. If their bodies like obliterated and their.
Christos
Campsite was just blasted off the earth. And I'd be like, well, maybe. But I'm like, come on.
Mark Gagnon
I just, I don't buy it.
Christos
I'm like, look, I just, I don't know.
Christos (additional comments)
How do you feel about the living ones taking the dead ones clothes?
Christos
Is that, that's completely.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, duh, dude, you're dying. You're freezing to death. I would take your shirt just like if I was chilly, you know what I mean? Like, are you crazy? I get cold. Are you? Yeah, duh. Like, I think that is the most normal thing in the world. Like, yeah, you like, sorry, dude. Like it'd be crazy if one of them like murk the other one.
Christos
If they were like, yeah, we're gonna put you out and then jack your. Because I'm gonna die. And you're, you know, that would be crazy. I don't know if that. If anyone's brought that theory up.
Christos (additional comments)
Oh, cutting the tent from inside out.
Mark Gagnon
If you hear the avalanche, you can actually hear the ice breaking.
Christos
And you're like, oh, something's happening. You don't have time to unzip, dude.
Mark Gagnon
It's 1950 zippers, dude. You gotta just be like, hey, we're.
Christos
About to get swallowed by an avalanche any second. Let's get the hell out of here.
Christos (additional comments)
Rather grab a knife and cut as opposed to unzip.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, bro, they're sleeping with their knives. They're absolutely locked in. I think we also got to look.
Christos
At the zippers of these tents.
Mark Gagnon
It's not like you're thinking of, like.
Christos
A Coleman, you know, 20, 25 tent. I don't think that's what we're dealing with here. I think these are like, industrial giant zippers with probably, like, three layers.
Mark Gagnon
You got to unzip.
Christos
Da, da, da, da, da.
Christos (additional comments)
Might not even be zippers. Could be, like a tying situation.
Mark Gagnon
Could be a tying situation. That's the thing, dude. That is the absolute thing. I would actually. Can we get a fact check on that?
Christos
That's a great question.
Mark Gagnon
Because everyone's like, dude, they cut their way. I'm like, yeah, they wouldn't even know what was going on.
Christos
This is 1950s Soviet Russia.
Mark Gagnon
They needed to be warm in their tents. I don't think these are, like, little.
Christos
Camping tents that people are normally talking about.
Mark Gagnon
You know, there was a form of.
Christos (additional comments)
A zipper starting in 1917. So.
Mark Gagnon
Okay, I'm sure they had a zipper. I'm saying it was heavy duty. The zipper on this tent is heavy duty. It's like a whole thing.
Christos (additional comments)
It's a double zipper.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, exactly.
Christos
That's my point.
Mark Gagnon
Imagine you're in here. What would be faster? Zip, zip.
Christos
Or you just cut your way out if you think you're about to get swallowed by an avalanche.
Christos (additional comments)
You're naked. You got a knife next to you.
Mark Gagnon
You're in it. Yes, Christos, you're camping. You're, of course, like, you're not naked naked. You're in your underwear. Because again, you're wearing, like, these massive.
Christos
Heavy coats all day. You're not going to sleep in your giant coat. You're just going to, like, pop in your sleeping bag, knock out, wake up, keep it moving.
Mark Gagnon
That's. That's the most compelling thing to me.
Christos
I really think that that makes the most sense.
Mark Gagnon
Now, what's interesting about this is that the evidence in the way it shows.
Christos
Up, people just draw all their own theories. They're like, dude, they found the bodies. They were missing eyes. Something came and sucked their eyes out of their head. It's like, no, they died. And then also animals or people are like, oh, they cut the tent from the inside. What must have happened. A supersonic weapon. I'm like an avalanche.
Mark Gagnon
Like, it's just like, this is again, a kind of an Occam's razor thing.
Christos
It's like the most likely explanation is the one that's the simplest. And typically it's. You know, I think that I'm all for conspiracy theories, don't get me wrong. But I just think this one, I'm gonna go gun to my head. I'm saying avalanche.
Mark Gagnon
With that said, what 23 year old.
Christos
Is going with his boys to go hike for a week and a half in the worst terrain of all time. That's like, I'm not.
Christos (additional comments)
Look, they're fucking Soviets.
Mark Gagnon
They are Soviets and they're. You guys are wild people. Technically, Soviets don't exist anymore. The Russians, though, y' all are crazy.
Christos
And look, no disrespect. All right, rip to the dead. Pour one out for all the homies. Sure.
Mark Gagnon
Don't do that. Don't do. Don't go to the mountains. Don't disappear into the mountains and be.
Christos
Like, yeah, I'll hit you all up in two weeks. You'll, you know, if we don't come back. Look, for us, you're 23 years old.
Mark Gagnon
Drink vodka, you have the hottest women in the world. This is post world, dude.
Christos
Russian women are like, by far.
Mark Gagnon
Maybe not by far, but like pristine. Sure, pristine. And this is post World War II.
Christos
All the men just died.
Mark Gagnon
There's now all these women that are now populating Moscow.
Christos
St. Petersburg, I think technically Stalingrad. Still, I can't actually. Leningrad. I can't remember all that.
Mark Gagnon
All that. It's Leningrad, I think. But I don't know if they change.
Christos
It to St. Petersburg yet.
Mark Gagnon
Anyway, all I'm saying is that there's beautiful Russian women walking around and you're like, you know, it'd be a fun weekend.
Christos
Just be gone for two weeks in the snow.
Mark Gagnon
Not that they deserved it.
Christos
No one deserves this. But they deserve it more than, like, me, because I'm not doing this kind of stuff.
Mark Gagnon
This is the way I think, like the way black people look at white people.
Christos
This is how white people look at, like, Russians. We're like, dude, that is white people. Shit. Like, y' all are Doing too much.
Mark Gagnon
Just chill. Drinks a vodka, go to a bathhouse, you have a banya over there. Just chill, you know what I mean?
Christos
You don't need to do all this.
Christos (additional comments)
Haven't you had multiple camping trips?
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, I like to camp in moderate temperature. I love camping, as you can see.
Christos
Take a look.
Mark Gagnon
But I like to do it in Brooklyn, New York in a air conditioned room.
Christos
Not where we are, obviously. We're deep in the wilderness.
Mark Gagnon
I also, every time I camp, it.
Christos
Is like end of summer, like springtime. It's moderate, not a ton of mosquitoes depending where you are in the country.
Mark Gagnon
Obviously I have yet to do snow.
Christos
Camping, which I would consider, but it just like. Guys, this is crazy. I bet you sleep so good though.
Mark Gagnon
I bet you, you go snow camping.
Christos
You go through this whole thing, you're hiking all day, you get in your tent and you just hear the wind outside. Oh, I bet you that sleep hits crazy.
Mark Gagnon
Anyway, now if this story sounds familiar to you, it's because I did an.
Christos
Entire episode on it with my dear friend Casey Rocket. And we talk about that with like, we also talk about a bunch of other like crazy sort of unsolved mystery Lost footage. Just like, you know, crazy little wormholes. If you enjoyed this episode, there's this plus much more with the brilliant and hilarious Casey Rock. And you can check that in the description. And yeah, that's all I have really to say about Dyatlov Pass. Anything else you'd like to contribute, Christos?
Christos (additional comments)
Nope.
Mark Gagnon
So there you go. In the end, no one really knows what's going on, and it may never.
Christos
Be fully known what exactly happened, but the incident continues to capture imaginations, my imagination for sure, and just reminds us once again that some questions maybe have no answers. But that, ladies and gentlemen, is the Dyatlov Pass incident.
Mark Gagnon
If you are familiar with this, if.
Christos
You'Ve researched, if you've gone through the.
Mark Gagnon
Whole website, if you've seen other videos on it, please let me know.
Christos
Is there anything I missed? Is there anything I got wrong? Anything I glanced over?
Mark Gagnon
If you've never heard of this, what'd you learn?
Christos
Is there anything you came away with?
Mark Gagnon
What's your theory?
Christos
What do you think happened? And I implore you to comment. Not only because it's, you know, just a nice little community we got built in the comments, but in addition to.
Mark Gagnon
That, the top comment on this video.
Christos
And all the future videos going forward.
Mark Gagnon
Is getting free merch.
Christos
Yeah, we're gonna hook you up. I don't know how exactly we're gonna find you. But we will go through, we will go in the comments and I'm gonna send an agent directly to your house and we will, we will deliver it to you by hand, by force. That part is not true.
Mark Gagnon
But we will get you some merch.
Christos
If you drop a comment. We will hook you guys up and.
Mark Gagnon
You can buy merch.
Christos
Obviously, you know, camp R D, all that good stuff. Make sure you subscribe to history Camp, Religion Camp. We get in all sorts of cool stuff over there. Similar vibes, but obviously more niche.
Mark Gagnon
And you can come see him on the road. Mark Gagnon live.
Christos
That's where you can find me. Markagnonlive.com we'll drop that link in the description as well. I'll be doing, unfortunately, just a perfect hour of stand up comedy. Just phenomenal. I mean, God's gift, you know, modern day philosophers over here, if you may say so yourself. If. And, and I do. Because if I don't do it, no one else will.
Mark Gagnon
No, it's going to be a great.
Christos
Hour, stand up comedy. We have, you know, a good time. I do a bunch of stuff at.
Mark Gagnon
The end with the audience.
Christos
I bring a bunch of great openers. It is a wonderful show and the rooms are pretty small for now, you know. So come on out, have an intimate time with your boy.
Mark Gagnon
So you can check me out on the road. I got all my dates there.
Christos
And I will see you guys at.
Mark Gagnon
History camp, Religion Camp, and of course here at Camp Gagnon.
Christos
Thank you for joining me in my tent and I'll see you guys next time. Peace.
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Episode: The Gruesome True Story of Dyatlov Pass
Host: Mark Gagnon
Guest: Christos
Date: October 16, 2025
In this gripping episode, Mark Gagnon and guest Christos dissect the Dyatlov Pass incident—a chilling and still unresolved 1959 tragedy where nine Soviet hikers perished under mysterious circumstances in the Ural Mountains. The hosts walk listeners through the known facts, bizarre forensic details, and enduring conspiracy theories, blending historical narrative with their trademark banter. The episode probes why this Russian wilderness story has fueled decades of speculation, from natural disasters to the supernatural.
Mark and Christos seamlessly blend factual retelling with conversational, irreverent humor and skepticism. Jokes about Russian culture, survival decisions, and the wildness of mid-century Soviet adventurism keep the atmosphere lively, while maintaining compassion for the hikers. The speculation is anchored by repeated reminders to seek logical, evidence-based conclusions.
Ultimately, Mark and Christos do not claim to have “solved” the Dyatlov Pass mystery—but they make a compelling case for the avalanche theory, urging listeners to seek evidence above conspiracy, while leaving space for the enduring allure of the unknown. The episode closes with an invitation for audience theories and a reminder that, sometimes, "some questions maybe have no answers." (37:12)
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