USAID: The Rogue CIA Agency Burning Your Tax Dollars

Summary

Podcast Summary: Camp Gagnon – Episode: "USAID: The Rogue CIA Agency Burning Your Tax Dollars"

Host: Mark Gagnon
Guests: Joey Avery and Miles
Release Date: February 10, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Camp Gagnon, host Mark Gagnon delves into the controversial role of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). The discussion centers around allegations that USAID operates as a covert arm of the CIA, potentially misusing taxpayer dollars for questionable foreign initiatives.

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Historical Context of USAID

Mark begins by tracing the origins of USAID back to the post-World War II era, highlighting its inception with the Marshall Plan aimed at rebuilding Western Europe. He explains how in 1961, under President John F. Kennedy, USAID was formally established to expand American foreign aid programs. The agency was envisioned as a means to foster goodwill and counteract Soviet influence during the Cold War through what is often referred to as "soft power."

Mark (00:00): "From most benign to least benign, this foreign aid can be seen as goodwill... another element is that we're just trying to have a presence in these countries."

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USAID as a Tool for Soft Power and Influence

The conversation shifts to the broader implications of USAID's operations. Mark and his guests discuss how USAID's aid initiatives are not solely humanitarian but also serve strategic geopolitical purposes, such as countering China's Belt and Road Initiative. They argue that some of USAID's projects may act as fronts for intelligence operations, facilitating the CIA's objectives under the guise of development work.

Mark (07:26): "Some people are speculating that US Aid is basically the agency that ties all of it together, that is a funding arm for the CIA, for the State Department, for the Department of Defense."

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Allegations of Money Laundering and Misuse of Funds

Joey Avery raises concerns about the substantial amounts of money flowing through USAID, estimating it to be between $30 and $40 billion annually. He questions the transparency of fund allocation, suggesting that a portion may be diverted for illicit purposes.

Joey (08:30): "If you start looking to the actual initiatives that they're doing, people on the right are looking at it being like, why are we putting $30 million into this? Thing. Yeah, this makes no sense."

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Recent Developments: Attempts to Pause or Dissolve USAID

The hosts discuss recent moves, particularly by figures like Elon Musk and former President Donald Trump, aiming to halt or dismantle USAID. They speculate that such actions could be part of a broader strategy to expose and eliminate perceived corruption within the agency.

Mark (101:30): "Marco Rubio in there. And so then the question is, like, will the cure be better than, you know, the disease that was there before?"

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Criticized USAID Initiatives

Several USAID-funded projects have come under fire, primarily from right-wing media and politicians. The podcast highlights specific cases that have sparked controversy:

1. LGBTQ Initiatives in Serbia and Guatemala

   • Serbia: Funding LGBTQ+ groups aimed at economic empowerment.
   • Guatemala: Allocation of $2 million to support transgender-led organizations, including gender-affirming healthcare.

   Mark (27:30): "They were funding an LGBT group in Serbia. It's called the groupa... promoting economic empowerment for LGBTQI plus people in Serbia."

2. Arts and Cultural Programs

   • DEI Musicals and Comic Books: Grants for productions that promote diversity, equity, and inclusion through the arts have been labeled as wasteful spending by critics.

   Mark (34:15): "They call it a trans opera in Colombia... $47,000 for a quote, transgender opera in Colombia."

3. Agricultural and Educational Projects

   • Haiti's Sesame Street Equivalent: A $20 million project intended for educational purposes faced criticism for not achieving its goals amid instability.

   Mark (40:32): "This was intended to provide early childhood education to promote messages of peace and tolerance amongst children in post-war Iraq."

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Political Implications and Party Dynamics

A significant point of discussion is the perceived flip in party stances regarding USAID. Traditionally, Republicans have supported robust intelligence and defense operations abroad, while Democrats have championed international aid and development. However, the current debate sees Democrats criticizing USAID for alleged corruption, while Republicans voice concerns over foreign spending and advocate for "America First" policies.

Mark (16:50): "It seems like the parties have flipped. There's data that supports that people have not died of malaria because of U.S. aid... the left is like, we need this, and the right's like, no, put this money back into America."

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Consequences of Reducing USAID Funding

The hosts ponder the potential fallout of significantly cutting or dissolving USAID. They express concerns that removing USAID could create a vacuum, allowing other nations like China and Russia to expand their influence in regions where USAID was previously active. This could undermine U.S. strategic interests and reduce its ability to promote democracy and human rights globally.

Joey (74:20): "We just worked out our issues with China... We did this, but I'm not sure."

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Conclusion: Weighing Humanitarian Aid Against Domestic Needs

The episode concludes with a reflection on the balance between providing foreign aid and addressing domestic issues. The hosts raise critical questions about prioritizing taxpayer dollars: should funds be redirected to domestic programs addressing homelessness, healthcare, and infrastructure, or should the U.S. maintain its role as a global aid provider to influence international affairs?

Mark (94:06): "Are we giving away too much money for frivolous needs? And do we need to put America first or is it a more complicated geopolitical issue than, you know, a simple headline would lead you to believe?"

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Final Thoughts

Camp Gagnon presents a highly critical view of USAID, intertwining discussions of foreign policy, alleged corruption, and political strategy. While highlighting specific controversial projects, the podcast encourages listeners to reconsider the role and oversight of international aid programs in shaping both global and domestic landscapes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Mark (07:26): "Some people are speculating that US Aid is basically the agency that ties all of it together, that is a funding arm for the CIA, for the State Department, for the Department of Defense."

• Mark (27:30): "They were funding an LGBT group in Serbia. It's called the groupa... promoting economic empowerment for LGBTQI plus people in Serbia."

• Joey (08:30): "If you start looking to the actual initiatives that they're doing, people on the right are looking at it being like, why are we putting $30 million into this? Thing. Yeah, this makes no sense."

• Mark (101:30): "Marco Rubio in there. And so then the question is, like, will the cure be better than, you know, the disease that was there before?"

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Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript and aims to present the key points discussed in the podcast episode objectively. It refrains from endorsing or refuting the viewpoints expressed by the speakers.

Transcript

[A]

Usaid right wing media is having a field day. Left wing politicians, senators, and the media are not happy. You know, the most benign way to look at it is like, hey, we need to keep supporting people and giving aid from, you know, people around the world. Another way of looking at it is like, we gotta keep, you know, American imperialism alive and strong. And then on the flip side, you have people on the right that are like, thank goodness we're stopping this. We need to put America first and put this money back into America. Let's help our homeless people. Instead of funding $1.5 million to an LGBT group in Serbia, $2 million sex change situation in Guatema, Thousand dollars for a transgender comic book in Peru.

[B]

Super.

[A]

Maybe man is American Isolationism the way forward for America. And that's basically what this whole thing is exposing. And it seems like the parties have flipped. There's data that supports that people have not died of malaria because of U.S. aid. And then there's a certain part of it that's like, okay, this is definitely some type of CIA longarm. And then there's also definitely part of it that's money laundering. Apparently, USAID was sort of supporting research in Wuhan. Oh, what's up, everybody? And welcome back to camp. Yes. We're here in the tent on this beautiful day for a tent talk. You know what that is? That's the show where I explain the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from around the world and the Internet to my dumbest friends. And, oh, boy, we really dumped out the short bus today, ladies and gentlemen. We got some real ringers, some real liberal cucks in here. Okay. Of course you got my friend and friend of the show, Joey Avery. How are you, sir?

[B]

Great to be here. Glad we could bring back the great. The great Miles.

[A]

You've jumped the gun. We've got the return of the heel of the show. Okay. Truly, I'm back. One of the most hated people on the entire Internet, my dear friend Miles.

[C]

Yeah, thank you, guys, for making it all the way to the flavor comments and my vlog comments. I really appreciate that.

[A]

Yeah, it's awesome. So let's drop an F Miles in the chat just while we can, you know, while we're thinking.

[B]

I didn't realize this was affecting so many channels.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I love that my mom's.

[C]

Getting letters in the mail.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

No, it's gone deep. It's pervaded every corner of the Internet.

[B]

Feel free to drop those on my channel as well. We can just get F Miles going everywhere.

[A]

Oh, we're getting merch going. It's so funny to me. I genuinely was like, we're gonna get Miles on the show. We're gonna like. Just me and my buddy just riffing. And then immediately the comments start rolling in. We hate this guy. And most people would shy away from that, but not here at camp. I've leaned in fully and I'm going to monetize off it.

[B]

You have to embrace it.

[A]

Yeah. Tr. We have a very interesting story today. Something that has rocked the world, specifically on Twitter, AKA X. And it seems like right wing media is having a field day. And as a result, left wing politicians, senators, and the media alike are not happy. And that is with a little story concerning the pausing and potential dissolution of usaid. Have you guys ever heard of usaid?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're like, you're very familiar with usaid.

[C]

Not super, but I have heard you've.

[A]

Been looking into it for a couple years.

[C]

No, no, no, I just. I know I've heard the term.

[A]

Okay, see, this is why it's. It's shit like this.

[B]

I feel like it's. This week is when I started hearing.

[A]

Yeah, no one's ever heard it.

[B]

We're cutting usa. And it's something that I assumed was there. Like, we have all sorts of programs. I know we have initiatives in other countries, but no, USAID has not been a huge part of my life and knowledge.

[A]

No one's ever heard of usa, but apparently now everybody cares about it. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. So basically, after World War II, United States launched the Marshall Plan to rebuild Western Europe. And that was. This was like a aid program that was super successful. And so throughout the, you know, Post World War II era, they were like, we need more aid around the world. Okay. We need to help people. So in the 60s, foreign. Foreign assistance became more complicated. So you got this guy jfk. Ever heard of him?

[B]

I have.

[A]

He is like, you know what? Some of our aid programs right now are not that effective. So in 1961, he signs a Foreign Foreign Assistance act and creates U.S. aid by executive order in November 1961. Now USAID sounds like the U.S. has given aid to everybody. Yeah, U.S. aIDS better than USA. Yeah.

[B]

The reverse Bill Gates initiative trying to give AIDS to everybody.

[A]

Yeah, we're pumping AIDS across the world.

[B]

We're pushing this game.

[C]

Do you think, do you think 20 years later they were like, we should have really thought about this name?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Well, it sounds good on paper.

[B]

The program started as US hiv, actually.

[A]

And it developed, yeah, slowly. Uh, but the Name doesn't really have anything to do with aid. It's the U.S. agency for International Development.

[B]

But they knew what they were doing.

[A]

Yeah, it was cheeky.

[C]

That's aid.

[A]

International Development.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Could be aid.

[C]

That is aid.

[A]

Could be AID in America, you know?

[C]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

Could be. Could be AID in us it sounds like usaid. Sounds like, yeah, help the kids.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you realize KIDS is an acronym and you're like, oh, it's like helping some people. Da, da, da.

[B]

It's a little more Korean Institute of.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Dumb asses. Nice. Okay.

[A]

The Korean Institute.

[B]

We gotta make it bigger.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But it also just another side note, a lot of people, like, even people like in Congress, like professional politicians, are calling it usaid. We're not doing that on this show.

[C]

I did look into this.

[A]

This has been pissing me the hell off.

[C]

Yeah, me too. But I looked into this because, like, I don't know what to call it. I've been watching news people explain it, and they are calling it, like, you're saying usaid. Usaid. And I looked into it, and there's a Reddit post from, like, six years ago that brought up the same point, and it's like, what do we call this? And the consensus is usaid.

[A]

Yeah, it should be usaid.

[B]

USAID is stupid. It sounds like a new, like, passport or driver's license.

[A]

It's United States. Da, da, da, da, da. Like, it's not United States of America.

[C]

Something identification.

[A]

Yeah, it's dumb. So we're calling it U.S. aid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it starts in 1961. And broadly speaking, there are a couple different layers that now are getting exposed about it. Okay. It seems like it's been operating from the 60s all the way up until today, getting tons of money, tons of our taxpayer dollars. And some of the different layers can kind of be described in these sort of different ways, just broadly speaking, okay. From most benign to least benign. That this foreign aid can be, you know, seen as goodwill. Right. So that you can orient populations around the world more positively towards the US which can sort of help, you know.

[B]

America, like China's Belt and Road Initiative.

[A]

Exactly, exactly. But it's looking at it. You're like, look, we're helping people not die of malaria. We're helping people get rice. You know what I mean? And there is actual money going into these initiatives that are ostensibly helping people.

[B]

Love rice over there.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Big on rice. Yeah, dude. And they just. They need a lot of it. And so they're just Crushing rice non stop. Yeah. So again, that's like one element that is properly doing aid and helping people. Okay. The other element is, you know, it's maybe more of just like an influence and that we're just trying to have a presence in these countries and that the aid part and the rice and all this stuff is kind of whatever. There's another element of this that, like, this is kind of pulling through the Cold War. So, like, after World War II, obviously, Cold War basically starts and goes all the way up until, like, the 90s. And this is basically a way to kind of like stop communism without having to be, you know, a hot war, like, actually have boots on the ground. It's like, if we can just have a presence in all these countries, we can sort of stop the spread of communism by having them, like, be down with the boys and not, you know, whatever they're trying to do.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So there's like.

[B]

With kindness.

[A]

Exactly, exactly. So this. This is seen as like, soft power is a term that we'll probably be using. And this plays a large role in the success of the United states in the second half of the 20th century. Okay. With the soft power, a lot of trade agreements have been. Have been done. And then there's another element that potentially through some of these foreign aid and humanitarian assistance initiatives, some of them either are sort of tied in or just completely are fronts for spy networks for the United States, like, send agents into these countries operating as humanitarians that are actually, you know, working at the behest of the CIA and are basically long.

[B]

Buying a rice bag.

[A]

Dude, are you listening? Just three guys in rice bags on a train. Like, why did that ice pack just blink? There's coughs coming from that rice bag. So that's part of it. And then there's obviously a money laundering component that is tied in with all of this.

[B]

Ooh, this I didn't know about.

[A]

Yeah. So it's like a giant pie of money. Okay. Like, some people speculate it's somewhere between, like, 30 and $40 billion every year that's going into USAID. It's crazy.

[B]

It's a speculation.

[C]

Is that a lot of money or a little money?

[A]

It's again, it's sort of in the scope of the overall budget. It's like, oh, it's not, you know, crazy compared to, like, our defense budget. But then if you start looking to the actual initiatives that they're doing, this is where people specifically on the right are looking at it being like, why are we putting $30 million into this? Thing. Yeah, this makes no sense. And on top of that, where's that money even going?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So from the fiscal year 2003 to 2023, federal agencies reported $2.7 trillion in total improper payments. And now all of this is coming to light through Elon Musk's DOGE initiative, which is basically, you know, put a halt on the agency and exposing all these programs and trying to figure out where all of the money is has gone. And so you have usaid and then they operate through all these like, sort of NGOs, non government organizations, like you can think like UNICEF or like Red Cross, and they go into all these countries, funnel money in there, and then where that money actually goes, it is speculation and fodder for the Internet.

[B]

So I think this is the case with so many government initiatives. Like, when you find out how a bunch of our defense money is spent, you end up seeing similar things.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's fascinating.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now the current state of affairs, like all of this is getting exposed. No one really knows exactly. Like, this is still all pretty early, so I've reserved the right to be wrong about all of this. But as it stands now, people are now like, uncovering stuff. Mike Benz is like a great journalist and like a cybersecurity guy, but also like a non Internet censorship dude that's been like covering a ton of this on X and like putting out receipts and like going through all the documents and funding, trying to figure out where everything is. And there's a ton of like, interesting things where it's like, wait, this money's going here? This money's going here. Why? And the most interesting part to me is that it's basically like flipped some of the parties on their heads. So Gabe, if you're able to pull up. Yeah. This image right here. If you click on this and go to the next image, you can see sort of like the way people kind of put this. So you have the Department of Defense, that obviously is working with the State Department, that's obviously working with the CIA, and they all sort of operate together. And some people are speculating that if you go to the next slide, that the US Aid is basically the agency that ties all of it together, that is a funding arm for the CIA, for the State Department, for the Department of Defense, all to basically additional funding arm. I mean, if they have their own funding.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Well, they can't directly be like, hey, we're taking money from the CIA. You know what I mean? Like, the CIA can't be out there building you know, water, you know, purifying plants and bridges and stuff. Right. And so they are able to create some front organizations is what people are speculating, to basically do the bidding and be a long arm of the CIA to basically like exert soft power in these regions.

[C]

Got it. So if USAID is funding a bunch of Americans to go like, and there's probably 95% of them are actual people that are trying to help, like this impoverished place, the CIA is like, hey, take three of our guys that are going to help and be there and do stuff, but they're also spying.

[B]

And they'll also be in one trench coat stacked.

[A]

Yeah, they're going to be stacked in a big trench coat. There's going to be a big tall CIA guy there. And then on top of that, it's like, hey, let's just curry favor with these governments. And then, you know, when China goes in to try to steal UN votes in like East Africa, we'll already have a presence there. And so, you know, China will have less power. Obviously, China's Belt and Road initiative was something that got a ton of, you know, information or a ton of press in like the last decade that basically China is using the soft power tactic to like, hey, let's build a deep water port in your, you know, region of East Africa. And we're going to basically use the port and we'll also, in exchange for building you this amazing port that'll help you guys, you know, economically. You're also going to help us vote in the UN and like, you know, give us some strategic alliance. So you look at some of these countries, like, for years we're never really voting in alignment with China. And then after some of these, you know, governmental infrastructural policies, all of a sudden are now voting in perfect locks up with China. People are like, huh, okay, I wonder what exactly is going on. So it's an interesting play of soft power that basically, to win hearts and minds, we're no longer using like military strategy, but instead we're going to be using these sort of soft power initiatives. So it's fascinating. And again, the percentages of this stuff that's like, okay, certain amount of it is good, right. Like, there's data that supports that, you know, people have not died of malaria because of usaid. Right. And then there's a certain part of it that's like, okay, this is definitely some type of CIA longarm. Okay. And then there's also definitely part of it that's money laundering.

[B]

Yeah. And then there's and beyond the malaria thing, I know that some of it's also been able to like stamp out like diseases before they get fudgeing crazy in another nation. Come over here.

[C]

And they're also like the post war effect, which is basically like after we. Or like an ally sort of leaves a place, we sometimes try to go like clean it up through usaid. Like right. We left a bunch of mines in your fields. USAID is going to come by and like sort of try to clean that up so that we're not. Not only do we decimate your country, but we're going to try to not decimate it for the next 50 years after we've left.

[A]

Yeah, maybe I don't know that specifically, but I can imagine that's probably a part of it. They're like, there's a good part, there's a money laundering part and then there's like a gray part which is like American imperialism.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it good or not?

[B]

Now you said something. I don't know if this is going to happen later so we don't have to dive into this, but when you said it flipped the parties on their heads.

[A]

This is where it's fascinating. So Gabe, if you can go back to the dock here, I can see.

[B]

Where this is going because it used to be the right was always like, we'll back the fucking CIA and the DOD and all this. And now the left is like, whoa, I mean we need this. And the right's like, no, it's the deep state.

[A]

It's fascinating. So literally that. So if you go to the senator admitting USA as a CIA front, that link right there, obviously Crystal and Sagar covered this, but USAID fights terrorist groups all across this world, making sure that we address the underlying causes for a retreat to terrorism. USAID chases China all around the world, making sure that China doesn't monopolize contracts for critical minerals and port infrastructure all around the world. It supports freedom fighters everywhere in this world. We are witnessing. We can just pause right there. Obviously you have a lot of Democrat senators that are coming out against this initiative deposit. And obviously Chris Murphy there from Connecticut is, is kind of saying what people are saying is the quiet part out loud.

[B]

US funding freedom fighters is an interesting history. Freedom fighters is a great euphemism for. And often, you know, there are people who have to fight for their freedom.

[A]

Precisely.

[B]

It's interesting. We in Al Qaeda just go back and forth. I feel like, I think we're back together, aren't we? I feel like in Syria I was.

[A]

It'S so complicated with us. It is.

[B]

It's complicated.

[A]

It really is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, yeah, this is just another, you know, indication where people are like, wait, I thought it was just giving rice.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like, I thought we were just helping people out. I thought we were helping, you know, like, Peace Corps kids and I.

[B]

So I know that that's a bad thing. Like, I know that there are initiatives that need to get done, but they don't cross my desk very often because I don't have clearance.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But now people are looking at us being like, wait, we're chasing China around to stop them from monopolizing. And that's kind of the Belt and Road thing we're talking about before. If China's going in to help out, hey, if we help out first and there's not as much of a need and we can sort of fight this greater thing of communism, but really fighting, you know, other countries power and their ability to sort of consolidate that power. So him saying this is like, oh, interesting. So you have, like, sort of Democrats being like, hey, we gotta, you know, we gotta keep the boys out there, you know, at, you know, the most benign way to look at is like, hey, we need to keep supporting people and giving aid from, you know, people around the world. And then another way of looking at is like, we gotta keep, you know, American imperialism still alive and strong. Yeah. And then on the flip side, you have people on the right that are like, thank goodness we're stopping this. You know, we need to put America first and put this money back into America. Let's help our homeless people instead of funding, you know, trans operas in Colombia. Right. Yeah. And so now people are like, well, isn't using American imperialism putting America first? So this basically goes down to, like, a foreign policy thing of, like, is American isolationism the way forward for America? And that's basically what this whole thing is exposing. And it seems like the parties have flipped.

[B]

I could easily see if Joe Biden for some reason, wanted to do this. Not that I could see him doing it, but I could easily see senators from both sides making the exact opposite point. Easily.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, if the left did this, I could easily see the right out there being like, they want us to be soft on the world stage. They want us to be pussies. I'm sorry. I think America's great. It'd be the same people. I feel like, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It. Like, it just is kind of whoever did it first. And now you're just having, like, this counter reaction but it almost seems like, again, the parties have kind of flipped on it. So that part is. Is fascinating to me. So I think we should go through some of these initiatives that USAID has funded or has allegedly funded as it's kind of come up on X and really quick.

[C]

It's paused, correct?

[A]

As of now.

[B]

Yeah, got it.

[A]

Paused. And so I think the executive order can pause it, but they can't dissolve it without going to a vote. So basically the way it kind of works is you can pause any of these agencies and be like, hey, let's just audit them. Let's look into the funding, let's go through the backlogs, let's see what's going on, and then from there you can decide to, you know, like, you know, basically dissolve it.

[C]

Oh, okay, cool.

[A]

So right now it's paused is my understanding. But if. If you go back to the links here, this I saw literally just like an hour ago that at the very bottom, the building of the usaid, like, main headquarters is like, they're basically wiping down.

[C]

Hilarious.

[A]

So the U.S. agency of International Development is getting changed in Washington, D.C. doesn't look like it's gonna be bouncing back anytime soon.

[C]

I mean, what a silly choice just to start here.

[B]

Yes, Start with the sign.

[C]

What a crazy choice.

[A]

Well, it seems silly, but there's actually an interesting political move that like, Trump and Elon seem like they could be doing. It's a fascinating political strategy. Okay, but before we get to all that, let's just go through some of these. Some of these initiatives. And again, there's a DEI component to this that also is fascinating that also kind of has flipped the right on its head.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[A]

Okay, so let's talk women in Waste management.

[C]

Great.

[B]

I've been saying they need to tighten up their waists for a long time.

[A]

That was a big thing for me when it came to this election. I was like, you know what? We don't need more garbage men. We need more garbage people.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[A]

I'm a big. I'm trying to democratize garbage.

[B]

Yeah, Shout outs to Foley and Kevin Ryan. They're doing their best to help find all the garbage people.

[A]

Exactly. So in 2023, USAID allocated funding for a DEI initiative, both domestically and internationally, supporting events aimed at fostering inclusivity. One such event was Recognizing Women in Waste Management. This was a initiative that basically included senior gender advisors for environmental, climate, social and behavioral change, and a gender director and a gender specialist that would be basically inserted into the. The waste management process, both in America, but Also in other countries around the world. Yeah.

[B]

That doesn't seem necessary. But yeah, like in other countries, like, you have a crazy. Do women want this? I don't know any women that are like, why don't you let us pick up trash?

[A]

Yeah. We can't drive in our country. We're not going to drive a truck.

[B]

It does make sense. They are better at cleaning. So if you actually think about what would be most effective.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Tidy up your nation.

[A]

Yeah. Oh. So I think that's what part of the initiative was that they happen to leave out of this. Yeah. Obviously the biased right wing media. Yeah. That they were just giving women Swiffers 100 and they were like, hey, get out there. Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Start dust the world is your kitchen.

[A]

That would be a good initiative. Honestly. 100 just be like, wait, so you want us like doing sanitation and like, you know, cleaning up the. No, no, no, no, no, no. You guys just go dust.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Dust. We got wireless vacuums.

[B]

The world is dusty as hell.

[A]

There's so much dust everywhere, it's insane.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Dude, I saw a. I saw an insane Reddit thread. It was so funny and it was just some guy who was on like uncomfortable questions or something. And the question was just, yo, do black people have different colored dust in their house?

[C]

That's really funny because what is it like 90% of dust is skin cells, skin follicles.

[B]

I didn't know that. I hadn't made that connection.

[A]

Does is just your skin?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. It's all skin, primarily.

[B]

Oh. I thought it was just shit that was in the air.

[A]

What, it just settles.

[C]

Upside down?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What are dust bunnies?

[A]

That's.

[B]

There are animals made out of my skin.

[A]

That's when you have enough. You know how Dr. Umar calls white people snow bunnies? Yes. A dust bunny is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know where that's going. No, a dust bunny is just when you get a whole collection of dust and it kind of hops around your house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, that's disgusting. I didn't know that.

[A]

Also from the answer, by the way.

[B]

No, they don't have different.

[A]

All ethnicities have the same color dust.

[B]

That's good to know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's why equality is so important.

[A]

It's important to look at it, I feel is what MLK wanted at the core of everyone. Okay. We might look different, we might sound different, we might even smell different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But at the end of the day, we're all the same. Just look at our dust.

[B]

Dust, equity and inclusion. DEI yeah, what's up, people?

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[A]

The world is dusty as hell. We need more women out there to start cleaning. How about $1.5 million got allocated to an LGBT group in Serbia.

[B]

What were they doing?

[C]

Yeah, what?

[A]

They were killing gay people. So, yeah, they were funding an LGBT group in Syria. So Syria or Serbia?

[C]

Yeah, Serbia or Syria?

[A]

I said Serbia.

[C]

You said Serbia.

[A]

Oh, you guys are thinking Syria.

[B]

You just said.

[C]

You said serious.

[A]

Why would I say Syria? It's obviously Serbia.

[C]

Okay, all right, well, Syria would be way crazier.

[B]

Yeah, Syria would be insane.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Right. If you want to really craziest game.

[B]

Of frogger of all time. Just being gay dodging freedom fighters in. In Syria.

[A]

If you want to really put your balls online, yo. Start funding the LGBT in Syria. Yeah, you know, but no, it's in Serbia. It's called the groupa. Yes. Which in English means group. Come out. This is an NGO that received $1.5 million from the Biden administration to advance DEI in Serbia's workplace and business communities to promote economic empowerment for LGBTQI plus people in Serbia.

[B]

I could see both sides of this.

[A]

Right, let's hear it.

[B]

On the one hand, I imagine that Russia doesn't like us promoting gay stuff in Eastern Europe, and so that's a bit of a thorn in their side. But on our side, we're like, hey, we believe that. That's. We accept that, and it should be a lovely thing. So we should help people in places where it's hard for them to do that. And also, if you start empowering those communities, they'll be more likely to, like, the US Than repressive regimes.

[A]

Exactly. So that this is where it's all fascinating. Okay. Where it's like, is it possible that they're doing this to, like, basically provoke Russia by instilling Western values? Right. And that they can, like, coax Russia into doing something? So it's like, oh, they're using this as, like, a front to basically, like, get Russia riled up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we can use that energy and that, like, aggravation as, you know, more justification to like, prolong the war and basically set up more military units around Russia.

[B]

I also feel like, as these more, like, communist regimes have started to accept, like, McDonald's and in their country, we're g. We're kind of getting to gay because we're like, well, what do we have that's different than what they're allowing? You're not allowed to be gay.

[A]

Be gay there. Exactly.

[B]

I believe in spreading dance, dude.

[A]

The other thing that's interesting is that people on the right are looking at this and they're like, dude, why are we funding gay stuff in Serbia? Yeah, but if you believe DEI and, like, gay agenda is bad and we want to, like, subvert all these other countries, then do it. You know what I mean? Send DEI to Iran. Send DEI to China.

[B]

Yeah. Like, just people be free.

[A]

Let. If you think that that's bad. Yeah.

[C]

If you think DAI is upending our government up in their government.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Use DEI everywhere and then Gay Trojan horse.

[A]

Yes, exactly, dude. That. It's, like, kind of genius, right? Yeah. So it's interesting that you got people on the right. They're like, stop making everyone else gay.

[C]

The gay Trojan horse just has a huge dong.

[A]

Yeah. Mr. Dude's hanging on it.

[B]

But, yeah, it's just an orgy inside of the Trojan horse.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's awesome.

[A]

They can tell it's coming, dude. It's just. You hear Charlie xcx, you're like, oh, no, Brad.

[B]

Coming.

[A]

Like, there's some gays in that. Yeah, we got a couple other ones.

[B]

There's some gays in that.

[A]

They want to hear the club classics. Okay.

[B]

That would happen in Toy Story when you pull the back of Woody's.

[A]

There's a gaze in that. There's a dick in my ass. And apparently. Yeah, apparently there was $70,000 allocated for a DEI musical in Ireland. That's what the headline says. A DEI musical. Which. That's just a musical.

[B]

Pass me the shillelagh. Yeah.

[C]

Ireland's do we need to be funding that?

[B]

I feel like Ireland has enough money to put on their own gay musical.

[C]

Yeah, that's actually right.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So this is apparently what. What the article is suggesting here is that an Irish DEI musical is funded to deliver a, quote, live musical event to promote us and Irish's and the Irish shared values of diversity, equity and inclusion and accessibility. The grant was awarded as a part of a cultural exchange initiative aimed to foster deeper international ties through performing arts. Organizers of the event outlined plans to integrate performances that highlight the struggles and triumphs of marginalized communities in both nations.

[B]

And I think people see that as more sinister than it is. Like, it's just like we have some money that we can shuttle to things like promoting theater. You know, that's what they settled on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A show called the Pagato Famine.

[C]

Have you ever been to Irish pub? It's just a bunch of dudes singing.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is sort of gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But it's splitting the g. That's the.

[A]

Start of the, of the musical. Just so potatoes. What do we eat? But yeah, $70,000 doesn't seem like that much money. Right. Like, if you look at the budget of the US government, but then you have people that are saying, why are we putting that money over there? Yeah, why don't we just not do that and spend the money anywhere else?

[C]

We also are cool with Ireland. I don't think we need to, like, really extend too much soft power over there. Serbia, I'm like, okay, you got to.

[A]

Keep hands on everybody. Yeah, yeah. But I think this is like, maybe that one is one where I go, yeah, we don't need. We don't need 70,000.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For that. Like, it's not bad. I don't think it's a bad thing. But you just look at the money and you're like, maybe we could, like, I don't know, give it to a podcaster or something.

[B]

A lot of these, like, government arts grants and spending are by nature going to go to shit. That's kind of dumb because that's where the money comes from is something that if it was going to make money on its own, it would just make money.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So it has to be like, oh, we're supporting, you know, good vibes.

[A]

But then people are like, dude, we got people dying of fucking Fentanyl. We got homeless people here. You know, let's throw them some money. We got. North Carolina's got a hurricane. They're giving them 500 bucks. Let's put that money into someplace that matters.

[B]

That does seem better.

[A]

And you hear it and you're like.

[B]

It does seem better.

[A]

But then you're just like, look, those things are sort of apples and oranges. You can't compare the funding for fema. And then also, what if whenever a.

[B]

Natural disaster hits a place, we give them money to put on a play? Instead of build rebuilding your house, why don't you build a set?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then you can dance and. And the do put on a gay play.

[A]

After the Hurricane Katrina, the musical. Yes.

[C]

Now we're talking.

[A]

Now we're talking.

[B]

Dude, the whole city was wet.

[A]

Yeah, George Bush does care about black people, actually. Turns out. All right, what about $47,000 for a quote, transgender opera in Colombia?

[B]

Baritone, I assume.

[C]

That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, it's a very tonal, very tonal opera.

[B]

I Am a Lady.

[A]

This was called the AS1. It was a quote, so called trans opera in Colombia in 2022. And this has come under fire from Donald Trump's administration that they cited this musical as an example of waste of the USAID funds. The funding was a part of a broader initiative to support arts and promote cultural exchange. The opera was created to share the experiences of transgender individuals through music and storytelling. Aimed to foster empathy and understanding. It sought to provide a voice, a very powerful voice to the transgender community, highlighting both the challenges they may face and their resilience.

[B]

I am curious if we have also funded plays that aren't about gay and trans stuff that people just aren't freaking out about.

[A]

That might be true.

[B]

You know, like, if we're just funding a play about like, you know, Colombian, like farm workers or. Or whatever. I. I don't think they would care. Right? Yeah, they wouldn't care about that same amount of money.

[A]

Also.

[C]

What if it's good?

[A]

That's the other thing.

[B]

If it's Perez would would seem to indicate it's not a good play. I heard that movie sucked ass from people that would like it.

[C]

But also imagine if they were like, oh, we're funding a play about like the historical retelling of like, John Burton, Alexander Hamilton. He'd be like, that's a waste of money. And then you see it, then you watch Hamilton.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you go, that is sort of worth it. We should have paid more.

[A]

Yeah, that is true.

[B]

If the government funded that, these same people would be like, they're having black people play Alexander Hamilton and it sucks. And it's like, actually, there's bangers.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I do think this one Is like, we got to see it.

[B]

Yeah. And every play is a little gay. Right?

[A]

That's true.

[C]

Operas are sort of sick, and there's.

[B]

Nothing wrong with that.

[A]

For anyone that can't drink the have a drink in there. You can't drink while you're singing opera.

[B]

Yeah. Why not?

[C]

It's not Hamilton so far.

[A]

Is my skin really softer? All right, shut it down.

[B]

Shut it down.

[A]

Yeah, that one. That one's a little tough. Again, people are looking at this saying, hey, we got people starving in America. Do we need $47,000 to go do that? To go do this? Soft power.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That could become a hot. A hard.

[B]

Trying to make their hard power a soft power.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

As they.

[A]

Another one.

[B]

They got rid of that power altogether eventually.

[A]

Another one that got people fired up is $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru. Yes. So according to recent reports. $32,000.

[B]

Super. Maybe, man.

[C]

Super that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spider person.

[C]

Super them.

[A]

This was allocated $32,000 for this transgender themed comic book in Peru. The exp was highlighted by the White House press secretary, Caroline Leave it as an example that what she described as, quote, wasteful spending of American tax dollars. So back in November, USAID announced a new partnership with UNICEF to support inclusive education of Venezuelan migrant refugees in Peru. And so Peru hold held the second largest Venezuelan migrant and refugee population in the world, 1.6 million. And they were able to use this money to eventually support some artists that then made this book. An interesting point with this, and kind of all of them. I'm curious, again, the headline is like, they spent 32 grand to make a transgender comic book. I'm like, did they put money to help migrants? Some of that went to, like, an arts program.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then some artist was like, hey, I'm going to make a comic book. And then they were like, all right, well, I guess this is what it is. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[B]

Again, if that's how it went and it wasn't about trans, it wouldn't be a headline.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Right, exactly. So it's just interesting that this has become the talking point again. I think with most things, it's, like, kind of true. Yeah. It's like, did America fund a transgender comic book? Yes. Was that the purpose? Probably not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And did they just support some artists in Peru? And did that. Did they happen to make a transgender comic book? I think that's probably the likely case.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But who knows? But all that is to say is that people are pissed off about this and they're like, why are we doing this? Why are we putting the money there?

[B]

It's easy, like, first step thinking to just get people, like, who will just see the headlines and walk around and just be infuriated about this and be like, we're funding trans. Goddamn Peruvian comic. What the.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it is probably more that it's like, for me, it doesn't really necessarily bother me that it's trans if we're funding art and artists can do whatever they want. But to your point, does feel like we could clean some of this spending up.

[A]

This is.

[B]

Have it for, you know, aid for people's house burned down in our country.

[C]

If it was 1.5 million, I'd be like, it's a lot of money for a comic book. It's 32 grand. And it probably didn't all go to the comic book kid.

[A]

So then this is the money laundering thing, where people are like, you're spending X amount of money. What percentage of that is just getting pocketed from this person and this little middleman? And once we get into the big numbers, you can easily see how, like, a couple mil could just get, like, pulled off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So a big one that people like to point out is $20 million for Iraqi sesame Street.

[B]

This is interesting.

[C]

I like this.

[A]

Yeah. Can you pull up on Twitter to search Iraqi Sesame Street? Can you. In the mid 2000s, the United States Agency for Big Birds.

[B]

Just a drone.

[A]

Big metal bird. No, big metal bird is coming.

[B]

I don't think that's good. It looks good.

[A]

This is not the real one.

[B]

Oh, but play.

[A]

No, no, play this. Play this. This is so funny. This is what people said. This is what they think it looked like. Oh, no.

[B]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

We.

[B]

We.

[C]

Who made this?

[B]

I think this is from the time of the war.

[C]

There's no way that's. There's no chance they actually made.

[A]

No, that's not the real one, obviously.

[C]

Yeah, but I'm saying someone had to make those puppets. I was like, this shit's going to.

[B]

No. I bet that was like a sketch on, like, late night during the war, I'm assuming.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. But it's just such a fun idea.

[C]

How much money do they give to this?

[A]

20 mil.

[B]

We are going to need to do some PR in Iraq if we want people back on our side. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, we might need. There might be some gains that we could have in terms of our public perception over there.

[A]

I think so. And I think Sesame Street, I mean, they're Some of Our best ambassadors. Yes. I mean, Cookie Monster.

[C]

Yeah. Ali the Grouch.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly though, like, I find that Arabs and Muslims in general are some of the cleaner people on the planet. Like, it's part of the religion that they have to wash a ton. Yeah. So I feel like their relationship with. What did you say? Ahmed the Grouch.

[C]

Ali the Grouch.

[A]

Yeah, Ali the Grouch. You know, like a trash dump person. Yeah. I feel like they would look at that and be like, don't bring that to our street. We're not going to be.

[B]

But you don't foil for a good show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So he's the evil guy.

[C]

Oscar. He just.

[A]

Was he evil or was he just grouchy?

[C]

Grouchy dude, he's just a grouch.

[A]

Like, he doesn't murder anyone. Right.

[C]

Sesame street is 20 mil. That's crazy.

[A]

So in the mid 2000s, they funded the Iraqi version of Sesame street. Known as Ifta Ya Sim. The initiative was intended to provide early childhood education to promote messages of peace and tolerance amongst children in post war Iraq. However, the project faced significant challenges due to the ongoing instability of the country, which led to delays and its limited success. Critics of the funding argue that 20 million could have been better utilized for humanitarian aids such as food, medical supplies, et cetera, rather than producing a kid's TV show. The failure of the program to achieve widespread reach and tangible results reinforced skepticism over the allocation of foreign aid.

[C]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[B]

Yeah, because that 20 mil should have gone to helping Iraq. That might not have been the best way to do it. What a brutal set to work on. Bombs are going off, you're at the craft services table.

[C]

You're not. You're not at the craft service table. You're under a table with your hand above.

[A]

Yeah, but what better job for an amputee, you know, that's dark, guys. That's crazy. That's really. But if you think about it, right, we have to employ all these one handed people.

[B]

100.

[C]

Did the puppets wear his? Like, they're all.

[A]

They all look the same. Are there, Are there women puppets?

[C]

Yeah, Elmo's got that little pink.

[B]

I think Elmo's not a lady. Dude, we wouldn't have a.

[A]

We were gonna do Trans Elmo.

[B]

We wouldn't.

[A]

No.

[C]

But there's a doll that you're just.

[B]

Hanging out with a woman.

[C]

That's true. That's true. I think there's a pink one that hangs out with Elmo.

[A]

Oh, maybe.

[B]

I mean, here we got almost bottom.

[C]

Oh, they have the cookie Monster.

[A]

Oh, this is.

[C]

See, they got Elmo. Cookie Monster.

[A]

I would have put that girl in a hijab, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Who's the big one? I've never seen that one.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's. No, no, man.

[B]

It's like Ali Sheikh Muhammad. It's like an actual.

[C]

That's awesome.

[B]

I. I get.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Also misguided. Misguided.

[C]

20 mil is crazy. 20 grand. To dub all of our Sesame Streets and give it to them seems like the appropriate response.

[A]

You would think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or let's not do Sesame street, just give them band Aids or whatever they need. But.

[B]

Yeah, but you don't remember Band Aids when you grow up.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

I actually don't think it's a crazy idea to like try.

[B]

Good ip.

[C]

Yeah, it's good ip, but just give them hours and dub it.

[A]

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. There's a. Another one that I text you, Gabe, that I would love for you to pull up. This one I have not been able to confirm. And this is actually from a long time ago. This is the textbooks that are apparently sponsored. So there is an element of this that I find fascinating. Okay. So people have claimed that specifically like for example, with like Palestinians and Israelis, that Israelis are claiming like, oh, these Palestinians are taught from a young age to hate us. Okay. And they're like, how is that possible?

[B]

That it up sometimes by our actions maybe.

[A]

Right.

[B]

At times.

[A]

Why point.

[B]

At times.

[A]

Yeah. But now people are.

[B]

It's a bit of a few. I feel like it's been back and.

[A]

Forth a 2000 year saga. Yeah, yeah. That's now an ceasefire. So there you go. So maybe we solved it.

[B]

I think so. You heard it here first, folks. Never again.

[A]

Trump's gonna build a what? He's gonna put like a golf course. Yeah, golf course or something near the wall. Trump Tower sounds great. But this is apparently a USAID sponsored school textbook to teach Afghan children to count. One machine gun, two knives, three pistols to fight Russian infidels.

[C]

Four umbrellas, they didn't get that far. Five pencils. They didn't do a good job. They really cut it well.

[A]

You can't go over the top. So this is what some people are claiming. Again, I have not been able to confirm this. Okay. But this is just a Twitter thread that I thought was so funny that apparently they're like, okay, Russia's trying to exert power in Afghanistan. Okay. They're invading us. Right. So let's raise the Afghan children to have a sort of A fluency with weaponry and understanding that Russia, Russia is the aggressor and that they need to be taken out at any cost. So when you're seven years old, you go to school and you learn about 1 machine gun, 2 knives, 3.

[B]

Imagine your child coming home like you're just a parent and you're like, how was school today? And they're like, one machine gun, two times three pistols. And you're like, good. That's crazy.

[A]

I mean, like, if you're pissed about, like, I don't like a drag queen reading your kids. Yeah. You got to be equally mad about. You're like, both of these are bad. Yeah. Like, if you're. If you're mad about one of those or like, oh, they're teaching my kid to be trans. Yeah. You got to also be like, they're teaching my kid about knives.

[B]

Well, the thing is, we wouldn't, like, we wouldn't care at the time because we did this. We're like, I mean, the Russian infidels do need three machine guns.

[A]

Well, we teach them that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I mean, but then we teach our kids, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just regular numbers.

[B]

What if this was taught by a drag queen? We actually don't know if there's just a drag queen in an Afghan school.

[A]

Let's split the diff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, and being an Afghan drag queen is one of the easiest things in the world because you just put on a burka.

[B]

100%. Yeah. Actually so feminine and glorious.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, that's. It's a fascinating thing where it's like, this is what people are saying is apparently being taught there. I can't confirm this, but again, this contributes to the. The idea that USA is being taught as a. A CIA soft power weapon to infiltrate the hearts and minds in order to do our bidding.

[C]

Why is four umbrellas? It just doesn't make sense. They're like, we have guns. We have. Not all of them are weapons except for two of them. And they're. Yeah.

[A]

You know, and for the, for some of the bombs and stuff, it's just hilarious. Yeah. So you don't want to be overhanded, you know, so you got to be like, yeah, some guns, but there's a bunch of.

[B]

Yeah, it's also umbrellas.

[A]

Yeah. You know, toss it in.

[C]

Do we know how much money they paid for this or is this just a, like something that's coming out of.

[A]

This is like.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

This actually came out a while ago. This came out in April and I just found it. Randomly, like doing research on Twitter. Again, I can't confirm whether or not this is an actual thing, but I found it very funny. What's up, guys? We're gonna take a break really quick because you need more time. It is the most valuable commodity that exists, and Huel is going to help you do that. All right? If you're like me, you're constantly on the go, you're constantly running late. I mean, every time I'm leaving my house, I'm going out the door and I'm like, I forgot to eat today. And then I find myself just eating garbage, like, throughout. I'm, like, going to the bodega corner store, just grabbing, like, sugary nonsense. Or even if I'm trying to eat good, oftentimes it's packed with stuff that's terrible for me. And that's why I love Huel. All right, Huel is everything you need. It is a complete, balanced meal, all in this convenient, beautiful little bottle. 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[B]

Would be fun to work in that part of the CAA where you CIA rather, where you just get to come up with fun new plans like this and like pitching that in a meeting and people are like, that's good. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Draw the book.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The Shel Silverstein of training freedom fighters.

[A]

Well, this is where it gets crazy is that apparently China created a vaccine, the Sinovax, that they administered to a lot of countries. And again they saw this as like a soft power technique that if we can inoculate people to Covid, then you know, we can obviously, you know, gain some influence in the region.

[B]

Playing both sides of it. They're doing the old Philip Morris. We may have started it.

[A]

Sell them the cure. Yeah. But now when they went to the Philippines, they started administering the vaccine and then it came out later that the United States was funding misinformation campaigns for anti vaxxers in the Philippines.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you remember this? Yeah. If you can Google just like RFK.

[C]

That like it's dragged into this.

[A]

If you can search like anti vax Philippines, basically the US Is now pushing this and for a long time one.

[C]

Of those three words, right? A neat vax Philippines.

[A]

But they Google them, they got it. So yeah, it's an interesting thing. If you scroll up a little bit.

[B]

You can see the headline don't take the vax. It'll make you Chinese.

[C]

That's really good. You didn't have to move your.

[B]

I could do that. Yeah.

[C]

Most people that do it actually move their actual neck to do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I didn't know I had that. That was the first time.

[A]

How'd you.

[B]

Fun.

[A]

How'd you do that?

[B]

Just kind of channeled it. Yeah, I've been doing push ups all morning. It came out of me.

[A]

Is it a vaccine injury?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But yeah. According to Reuters, the US tells Philippines, yeah, we made a misstep with our anti vax propaganda effort. So when this came out originally in 2024, everyone was like, wait, why is this happening? It's come out more recently that apparently some of this media effort came through a USAID initiative to basically get people to not take the sinovax. So we don't want people taking the Chinese vaccine. But we can't just tell them, don't take that one. Let's just tell them to not take any vaccine to basically thwart China's influence in the region in the same group.

[B]

That's like, if you're against it in the U.S. fuck you.

[C]

It's like, it's also funny. They were like, but we can get them on our. Like they were never going to give them any vax.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Way around it.

[A]

But that China got there first. So it's better to have them not get favor with China.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or vice versa rather. And let's just leave them not vaccinated. But still, you know, closer with us.

[B]

We just worked out our issues with China.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And we didn't have to do such crazy shit all the time.

[A]

It's a good idea. Did you just think of it?

[B]

It's just a thought. Dude.

[A]

Good fucking.

[B]

I was fucking eating fried rice the other day and I was like, why can't we all just get along?

[A]

Yeah. What did you guys do?

[B]

Yeah. Chinatown the other night. I was like, dirty but fun.

[A]

Yeah. So the, the media component is, is pretty interesting that apparently there's like a lot of, you know, backdoor media stuff that's happening. One of the things that people pointed out is that there's $8 million from.

[C]

It's my favorite type of music.

[A]

So there's mainstream MSNBC and then there's the BBC. But apparently $8 million went to Politico from USA, which again, this raised a lot of suspicions. Everyone's like, wait, are they just buying off like American media? Like what's happening? Like who's controlling this money? Yada, yada, yada. And the, the funny in question is actually quite interesting. Again, people are looking at this saying like, like this is, you know, messed up. Actually it seems like the truth of this is that a lot of the payments came from Politico. Pro accounts. So basically Political Pro has like a second tier that gives like a super, super in depth analysis and sometimes those subscriptions are like 40 to $50,000. So basically in order to get all of your federal employees Politico Pro accounts, you might have to spend 8 million bucks.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

So that one is like, doesn't seem as crazy to me. It's like, yeah, you kind of want your.

[C]

Yeah. How much is the government spending on like Adobe? You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. Probably a decent amount.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But this was one that initially sounded crazy where it's like, wait, 8 mil is going to Politico? Yeah. And then you're like, oh, it's in the form of subscription. So it's not actually as crazy as people originally thought.

[B]

This does. I mentioned this earlier, but this is just really is one of those stories where you need to read more than a headline and half of an article about it because all this shit sounds insane and some of it is. Yeah. But some of it is like it's not quite as nefarious as it sounds. Sounds.

[A]

Now there are some, there are some that are more nefarious than they sound Good. So there's a ton that. These are older ones that apparently are not really like being discussed at length right now. But there's such things as like the Guatemala syphilis experiments.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So these are apparently experiments that were.

[B]

Carried out one crazy bachelor party.

[A]

Yeah. Like you said, we're going to Colombia. You're like, look, I miss, I miss.

[B]

We're going to Guatemala. You ever seen the pyramids?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But this happened in 46 to 48. So this is prior to the US AIDS creation. But this came from a group that was basically like the precursor to usaid. So this basically was this national institute. It was basically a funding support from the National Institute of Health and the Pan American Sanitary Bureau and the Institution of Inter American Affairs. And basically they funded research that used various unethical methods such as injecting 1300 Guatemalans with syphilis and gonorrhea.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

And only about 700 individuals received treatment. So not great. Now this wasn't USA.

[B]

Wait, why did we do that?

[A]

So the, the nature of the experiments are sort of undisclosed.

[B]

Let's see if the Browns get sick. That's what we.

[A]

I mean that is up 7.

[C]

So we could have gave them Sesame Street. What the.

[B]

Yeah, Syphilis Street.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So many of them.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like a whole thing. It's crazy. It's basically similar to the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. Yeah. Where. Yeah, they were basically trying to see, like, hey, is there a treatment for syphilis that we can, you know, test on an actual population?

[C]

Don't Worry, guys. In 2010, the U.S. the president, Secretary of State, and Secretary of Health and Human Services formally apologized. So I think it's water under the bridge. All right. We're fine.

[B]

Yeah, drop it, Guatemalans.

[A]

My bad.

[B]

Bringing it up.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I shouldn't have even said it. Again, this is not USA specifically. This is a precursor to. I think that's worth noting.

[B]

Multiple unsuccessful lawsuits have since been filed.

[C]

In the U.S. we also didn't find out about this until. Oh, five. Holy. What else have we done?

[B]

Oh, buddy.

[A]

Yeah. So there's four sterilizations in Peru. Apparently that happened. So in the 90s, USA provided funding and technical support for reproductive health initiatives on the services was seen as a way to support Peru as a voluntary effort to reduce poverty through birth control. But later testimonies and investigations revealed that allegedly 300,000 Indigenous women were misled, coerced, or even subjected to sterilization without their consent. USAID did provide funding for reproductive health in Peru. At the time, it is still debated and contested whether or not the US aid knowingly funded or supported the forced sterilizations. So again, another one of those things where.

[C]

Got it. So this is the Peruvian government doing this to a native population or an.

[A]

Ngo, rather, operating in Peru.

[C]

Got it, got it, got it. So we don't know if the money was actually, like, fully earmarked for, like, a bad CIA operation or if it was earmarked as, like, this will help people. And then someone down the ladder was actually very nefarious.

[A]

Right. But then the question goes, it's like, well, should we be allocating money to NGOs that have the ability to be doing evil stuff? This evil. Got it. Like, is the benefit of, you know, birth control and, like, reproductive health worth sterilizing 300, 000 indigenous women. Sort of a gray area, you know. I'm not gonna step in that one.

[B]

Yeah, look, there's two sides to this one.

[A]

Yeah. I think we go back.

[B]

Imagine being at, like, kind of not liking your job and getting assigned this project, and you're like, ah, yeah. God. How's work? Oh, God. Pain in the ass. I had this sterilized 3000 indigenous Peruvian women. That's horrible. I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't like my boss either.

[A]

Yeah. Who likes their job?

[B]

He doesn't even let me leave early on Friday.

[A]

Yeah. And Honestly though, if you look at what we were talking about Peru before the. The trans comic books.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That seems like a walk in the park. Yes.

[C]

Street for 20 mil. I'm like sure, run it up.

[A]

Yeah. Apparently USA had also had a role in the Haitian agricultural collapse in the 90s. So basically there was this we with.

[B]

Haiti quite a bit, haven't we?

[C]

Well France did way worse certainly.

[A]

Well France also gave them their independence.

[C]

So gave is a big, you know. Yeah.

[A]

After that war and the rebellion that they had.

[C]

But they also saddled them with debt. Haiti got so screwed by. There's a great video on like how France is still collecting.

[A]

Are they really Haiti? Yeah, I had no idea.

[C]

Yeah, it's crazy. Sorry. We. But Also in the 90s we came in and kicked them while they were down.

[B]

They basically had this get back to how we're awesome.

[A]

Yeah, no, we're gonna get that. Don't worry.

[B]

We're gonna get. This is good information.

[A]

They basically promoted this trade liberalization and subsidization effort of US rice exports. So USA facilitated sort of cheaper American rice, known as Miami rice into Haiti. This move effectively undercut and wiped out Haitian rice farmers because they were unable to compete with the artificially cheap import. And then this caused Haitians to abandon rice cultivate cultivation, leading to the collapse of domestic food production. Haiti now is heavily dependent on imported foods, making the nation vulnerable to price fluctuations and shortages. So again, another one of those things where it's like we're trying to help.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

We're trying to figure it out and then maybe some bad stuff happens.

[C]

Didn't Tom's run into this issue? Remember the shoe company Toms? Oh yeah.

[A]

Where they would hair that you bought.

[C]

Then they would donate to like people that needed shoes.

[A]

That's why I never bought.

[B]

Putting local like cobblers out basically.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So local cobblers, there's like a huge vacuum now for people that make shoes with like the local things. And then people that want like to buy the rubber for the local shoes aren't making the rubber. Like it's basically a, A, a huge downstream effect for the economy there.

[B]

But they have shifts so often it's like it's like introducing an invasive species to an environment. Like we do this with business, we do it with the government. We with even well intentioned sometimes. Yeah, you with it has unintended consequences.

[C]

You give them rice for a decade and then 10 years of people not cultivating rice and using the fields and everything and then 10 years of information is gone.

[B]

A few kind hearted Millennials simply want to get rid of Joseph Cony, and then you end up naked masturbating in the middle of the street in San Diego.

[C]

That' very true.

[B]

Don't know where things are going to lead.

[A]

You got to give a man a.

[B]

Fish when you're trying to be a white savior.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

It's so hard to be a good white savior.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you don't know what's going to happen after.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it just goes into this sort of, like, greater political feeling that a lot of, like, MAGA Republicans feel now, where they're just, like, staunchly isolationist, where they're like, hey, let's just stop meddling. And I think this is sort of what they're reading and where they're getting that idea from.

[B]

But, you know, you don't medal a little bit, but then other people start meddling.

[A]

If you're not meddling, someone else start meddling, and then you just let them medal.

[B]

Meddling.

[C]

What if we put all this money back into America? We don't know what we're going to be up.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

We already own it. What are you going to do over here?

[A]

The TOMS thing is interesting because the whole marketing campaign was everything that you bought. If you bought a pair that would donate a pair to a kid in Africa, and I bought my sister a pink glittery pair of toms.

[C]

No.

[A]

And then they donated a pink glittery pear to a kid in Africa, and then they murdered him for being a witch. They said he was a witch and they killed him.

[B]

And there were two sides to that story. We still have to look into the facts.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

No, we might have been a witch.

[A]

I'm not gonna say he's not a witch.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's also an interesting thing that people have pointed out in regards to Covid, that apparently USAID was sort of supporting research in Wuhan. So allegedly, Fauci's NAID and the USAID organization spent $40 million in taxpayer money to fund research in Wuhan, China, that was for a project on, quote, understanding the risk of bat coronavirus emergence. The lead researcher on this project, his name was Ben Hu. Many people say that he could allegedly, again, this is sort of conspiratorial, that he's, quote, patient Zero, the first person to contract Covid and the completion of this payment and the research estate is being in 2019. But some people are looking at the timeline and they're suggesting that this is going all the way back to 2014 and that we're actually doing research in Wuhan at the virology lab that some people speculate is where Covid leaked from.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So this one is again, sort of debated in some capacity. But according to Wall street journal here, US funded scientists among three of the early researchers who fell ill among COVID 19. Now you could say, yeah, these guys are researching COVID 19 and they're around it because they're researching it and then they happen to get it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Is it proof that they invented it? Is it proof that they created it in a lab? Yeah, you can't necessarily say that.

[B]

And also, it's not like they were trying to do it, but it does seem like it came from the lab. The CIA even said they're. It's the most likely conclusion is that it leaked from that lab.

[A]

And then people point to like the Wuhan Military Games that happened in 2019, I believe.

[B]

I didn't have a ticket to that. You should have gone, what were they doing?

[A]

Can you look at the Wuhan Military Games? This is basically what like a early stage conspiracy.

[B]

A bunch of Chinese dudes riding bats around like Khaleesi.

[A]

They do these military World Games where like, they invite basically like active military from all different militaries from around the world and they all compete in different, like, sporting events. It's almost like an Olympics of like, you know, fit military personnel as a way to like, sort of of raise morale.

[B]

Motto, Military glory, World peace.

[A]

Yeah, to create peace. Yeah, different militaries. And so there was, you know, people from all different countries all at these different events. And this was in 2019 in Wuhan. And people are claiming that this is when it was effectively spread, that they had these games and then they infected different military personnel from around the world. Again, this has not been confirmed, but this is, you know, where the conspiracy sort of stems from. From. I mean, if they're going to do it, that'd be a good. Sounds awesome to watch. Oh, yeah, yeah, Definitely be televised.

[B]

When is Wuhan so pop? I've never heard of it before.

[A]

COVID Yeah, yeah, no, my parents there, but they never. Yeah, they didn't talk about it that much.

[B]

They didn't talk about it much. The fact that they had this crazy lab there and the games. We get a picture up of Wuhan, I'd love to see the skyline.

[A]

Also.

[C]

Is that where that crazy cool city is? Chong King Trung Quing. I've never heard the one that's like molt. It's like basically like, ah, looks nice, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. The Han.

[A]

Yeah, it seems like a beautiful Little area. Oh, speaking of awesome military events, have you seen the armored mma?

[B]

No.

[A]

The medieval mma?

[B]

No.

[C]

That's awesome.

[A]

I've searched this up.

[C]

I've been saying this on TikTok and then it was on randomly at a bar we were at and I was like, oh, Mark, have you seen this before?

[A]

Pull. Pull this.

[B]

That's a great bar viewing.

[A]

It's an all time amazing sport. Like, I can't believe this is not more popular.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

They're blunted swords. It's all blunted swords. They wear like crazy armor and they're in a literal octagon or sometimes like a square ring. And then they just beat the hell out of each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, how sick is this?

[C]

It's like BattleBots, but way cooler.

[A]

And so this is one of the hardest knockouts. Let's check it out. Okay, so these guys are teeing off.

[B]

Event like this. No sex. Lots of sex.

[A]

Yeah. I think there's a tipping point.

[C]

Yeah. Also, this is one of the competitors. This is M1 Medieval. There's also amma.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's a sick.

[A]

I mean. Oh, oh.

[C]

And then you just beat the brakes off a guy.

[B]

Take me to your lord.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, look at him. Oh. I mean, just beat. Oh, with those out.

[C]

He's got to be out. Yeah, he's out.

[A]

And.

[C]

Oh, this is funny. Their ref isn't wearing the armor. There are in the amma. The ref also wears the armor. Oh, it's awesome.

[B]

Ref should be on a horse. Where is. This is awesome. Yeah, like in England somewhere.

[A]

Like most of these crazy sports. I'm going to assume Eastern Europe.

[C]

Yeah. Awesome.

[B]

I would watch that.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

USAID should put money into that.

[A]

Yeah. Right. This is what we need. This is the cultural export that America needs.

[B]

Feuds.

[C]

That's an extreme. What are we talking about?

[A]

Yeah, it's like not. Doesn't even make sense. This is awesome. So, yeah, this is just something that people should check out.

[B]

All your most feudal feuds.

[A]

Don't you hate your feudal feuds?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then there's some other things people point out of, you know, wasteful spending. $6 million went to Egypt for tourism.

[B]

So it's doing fine.

[A]

You would think.

[B]

Pyramids.

[A]

They got some sick pyramids.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Wait, why are we promoting Egyptian tourism? I guess. I guess the thought is like, we want to be close with Egypt because, you know, just they're a key ally. So just throw some money their way.

[A]

The thought with all of this, are they an ally?

[B]

I don't even know.

[A]

It's just creating a presence. You just want to be out. You want to be Facey. You want to be with the world. Just having just vibes with everyone. Yeah. You know, because if you're not doing it, China's doing it. So according to this, the funding supported projects like improving transportation so that people in rural areas could access tourism, jobs or markets more easily. They're also including programs to help families earn a living, create small businesses, getting job training and benefiting from the economic boost of tourism. And the goal was to make sure that the tourism industry growth directly benefited everyday people, not just big business.

[B]

See, that's nice.

[C]

That seems great.

[B]

And we, we, a lot of Americans go to Egypt. We want to make sure that the tourism is smooth and on the up.

[A]

Exactly. So again, this is one of those things that seems like a perfect like threefold thing. It's like, okay, we're going to send some people over there to help transportation and we're going to help the everyday Egyptian get access to tourism. Yep, we're going to help the everyday Egyptian get access to tourism. Right, that sounds great. We're also going to send some, you know, cover guys that are going to go over there and maybe spy a little, you know, and just, you know, check out what's going on. Who's better to talk to the tourists than a CIA guy, you know, and so he's able to get in touch with the tour guides. He knows what the vibe is. We got boots on the ground over there. On top of that we're now kicking it with the Egyptian government. They're like these United States guys, they're great. They're giving us money, they're helping us out, they're supporting us. So that way when China comes knocking on their door, all of a sudden American be like, hey, we're, we're boys, we're helping you, we're helping you guys get tourism. And then on top of that there's a 6 million dollar deal. Maybe 300000 of that goes to a local politician in Cairo. Maybe another 400000 goes to a local politician in D.C. that's helped working out the deal.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they're happy.

[B]

Yeah, they're getting a little bit long and take.

[A]

So it does everything. Yeah, it's a CIA arm to put spies in. It helps the people, it gets money into individuals pockets to like, you know, privately and personally get very rich. And it seems like something like this, I don't know, it hasn't been confirmed but would just tick all the boxes of like what all the speculation is.

[B]

Yeah, some good idea, some money laundering, which is why it's so hard to cut government spending because there's always some rationale and there's people who are making money that are willing to defend it. But at some point, we can't just be in debt forever maybe. Or can we? I don't know.

[A]

This is the question. So now people say, say we're dropping 6 mil in Egypt. Why don't we put 6 mil in here in America?

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you're like, that's also a good point. But this is where it's interesting that things get flipped because now you got people on the right being like, put that money into America. And you got people on the left being like, no, let's keep spying on Egypt. Yeah. And you're like, I don't know which one is the better one. Yeah, I don't know. Like the, the isolationist in me, you know, and like the people that wants, you know, sovereignty for all people and sort of self determinism is like, hey, let's get the out of there there, you know, almost like on some Ron Paul vibes, like, let's just let everyone be free and do whatever they want. But then like the imperialist of me, you know what I mean? The Kissinger inside all of us is like, let's stay over there. Yeah, let's put some spies.

[B]

And it's also like, hey, if we're isolationist, who's doing exactly. Is it gonna be trying to. Plus everybody versus us just trying to hang out.

[A]

The second England is like, let's be isolationist. We just murked them, you know what I mean? They lost all their power.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like. But it's just an interesting.

[B]

People don't like when you with their shit either.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. Which creates more danger at home because you might be creating freedom fighters who, you know, who don't like what you're doing.

[A]

Exactly. So it's just another one of those interesting things where it's like, hey, we're just now creating. It's this one specific moment is creating everyone to really evaluate like what their geopolitical and like, you know, foreign policy position to be.

[B]

There's one thing Trump has been good at is forcing people to rethink things.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Moving the Overton window or whatever the bucket's called.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like some really wild places.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How much would they get? 6 million.

[A]

That was 6 million.

[C]

Whoever broke the deal for 20 for Sesame Street. Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Who's the local Wall Street.

[A]

Yeah. Who Worked on that.

[B]

It was caa.

[A]

Gotta be right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I feel like in Iraq he was not the one that was doing the deal, you know, I mean, that seems more like. Like a West Hollywood situation. Yeah, you know, it seems like a Glendale guy the.

[B]

On his phone. No, no, picture this.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It is Sesame street. But we're doing Iraq. Baby.

[A]

Elmo's not reading a script for less than 2.

[B]

Yeah, think explosions, think sand. You're gonna love it. It's different. It's imaginative. I'm smoking hookah right now to celebrate. Sign the deal.

[A]

Aladdin was a hit. Why can't this be a hit? Yeah, right. Think about it. It's wild. Wild. And again, the list goes on and on and on. $2 million sex change situation in Guatemala. So again, this is what the headline said. The truth is unfortunately a little bit less exciting, but the headline says that the U.S. aid and also according to the USAID website, allocated $2 million to support transgender led organizations in Guatemala. This funding aimed to enhance the delivery of gender affirming health care and advocate be improved access to these kinds of services. The grant was awarded to the Asuncion Lambda, a Guatemalan organization dedicated to proving equality and participation for LGBTQI individuals. And it strengthened the capacity of trans led groups to provide healthcare services and advocate for the transgender community. That's more or less what the article and the headlines on X have been saying. Why are we funding sex changes in Guatemala? Now the truth of it is that $2 million was allocated to these groups that are doing like, LGBT health care, some of which is sex changes. Certainly a smaller portion of that budget was actually used for sex change therapy, where it seems like most people are speculating, but it hasn't been confirmed that the majority of that budget went to, you know, like just general care and like, you know, housing people that are gay that maybe got kicked out of their houses, yada, yada, yada. So it's a little bit less exciting. But certainly there has been money from the US Government to fund sex changes in Guatemala. And people were like, like, again, why are we there on it? Yeah. And it's like, well, you got to put money somewhere and you got to help the Guatemalans. Like, I'm sure there's a rationalization from people on the left, like, hey, let's, you know, let's put some money and try to help uplift human rights around the world.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Should we be the leaders in American or in global health and is, you know, gender specific health a part of that? So Again, it just goes back to your position on foreign policy. You're like, should we be out here being the leaders, or should we just focus on America? Yeah, it's really whatever you think it is. And that's why everyone's so. So split on what's up. Guys, we're gonna take a break really quick because I gotta tell you about an amazing service known as BlueChew. That's right. BlueChew is a service that basically delivers this chewable tablet to your door whenever you want. Once a week, once a month. I don't even know if they could do it that frequently, but they'll send it right to your door. You don't have to go to the doctor and have some awkward conversation with some guy in a lab coat. Some dude that's judging you, probably, if I had to guess, with bluechew, it's super discreet. The packaging is discreet. It's just a couple questions on their website. And they will send you chewable tablets that have basically the same active ingredients as, like, a Viagra or a Cialis, but at the fraction of the cost and in a chewable form. It's great. It truly is. I mean, one time I was in the woods and we were cold, and everyone. It was raining, and I pitched a tent with the help of Blue Chew. And everyone gathered under it, and we were safe. And it saved me and a lot of lonely people. So if you're interested in BlueChew, here's how you get it. You're gonna go to BlueChew.com and use the promo code. Gagnon. That's right. G, A, G, N, O, N. It's kind of funny. Gagnon has the promo code. I don't know why exactly, but it is funny. And you're gonna receive your first month for free. That's right. Bluechew.com use the promo code. Gagnon. Check it out. Bluechew. Let's get back to the. What's the best time of day to get a deal? All day with Jack in the box's all day, big deal meal. You get to choose from four entrees.

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[C]

You've got all day at Jack. Every bite's a big deal.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It does seem one where it's like, I. I understand the less, you know, conspiratorial angle on it, but it does seem like a place we might not be needing to speak, spend money, but.

[A]

I do think that. The Guatemalan one.

[B]

If we're gonna spend money in Guatemala, we need to sterilize the 300,000. No, no, no. Okay.

[A]

We already tried and people were pissed off.

[B]

I mean, this kind of works. This is actually a way to. Oh, you know what I mean? Rebrand.

[A]

Yeah. War never changes. It just shifts names, you know? That's fascinating.

[B]

Yeah, it does change names. Exactly.

[A]

Now it's Juanita.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We're not gonna go and sterilize them anymore. Let's just chop their dicks off. Yeah.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

And call them tr. Dude. Imagine the forced trans surgery guy waking up. Yeah. Waking up. Being like, what? Yeah.

[B]

What the hell?

[A]

What the. Where's my dick?

[B]

Who stole my dick?

[A]

But yeah, there's a ton of other things. There's one. This one is interesting. It's not specifically usaid, but I had to put it in because it's just hilarious. In 2009. So this is just what the headline says. Almost a million dollars used to subsidize a pancake house in Washington D.C. that's the headline.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm on this one.

[A]

That one.

[C]

That's America first, baby.

[A]

Yeah, right. Like, you gotta. It's the International House of Pancakes. Like, what's better for, you know, foreign policy than the International House? Right. You know, so apparently in 2009, the. The Department of Health and Human Services awarded $765,000 in community economic development to the Anacosta Economic Development Corporation. And this organization used $500,000 of this grant to acquire a 30% stake in the Jackson Investment Company, facilitating the establishment of an IHOP in Washington D.C. i.

[C]

Mean, what a convoluted way to get to the ihop.

[B]

Yeah. I don't.

[A]

I don't even get this basic. This is where people are like, oh, this is money laundering.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or this is people stealing money just outright where it's like, okay, we're awarding a million dollars to a grant, and then that grant is going into a development corporation. And then that development corporation is acquiring a stake in an investment company. And then that investment company is facilitating the funds in order to open an ihop. Yeah. And everyone's like, are they just stealing money? Where's the rest of this money going?

[C]

The reason IHOP's great. We really need to talk more about that.

[A]

Yeah. It is an all time great spot.

[B]

One of the. Yeah.

[A]

If you're gonna be 3am Awake somewhere and I.

[C]

You want Rudy 2D, fresh and fruity.

[B]

Dude, this is just not what I think about when I think about money going to, like, Help like. Like food deserts, for example. Usually it's like, hey, we should get a better grocery store chain or places for people to buy natural food. Because if you leave companies up to themselves, they won't always develop in poor areas. And you do need to put money into development groups so that you can give people decent options so they can be healthier. It won't have an immediate payoff, which is why the government needs to do it. But you're investing in the own health people. But none of that works if it's an ihop.

[A]

Damn it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, what if they have just all natural, great, organic food at a low price? That's I house promise. Is it? I think so.

[B]

The food is not organic.

[A]

It's full of red dye.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Damn it.

[B]

I remember I. There was a. There was like a pancake house in town. And one year, like, Little League, we were excited. We had an all star game. And so the whole team, the dads were like, let's take everyone out to pancakes before. And we ate a bunch of pancakes before our game. And we got our pushed in because we were so tired. Everyone was, like, sleeping on the bench because we had pancakes before. An athletic event.

[A]

Yeah, that's tough. I did that one time. It wasn't even for an athletic event. It was for a dumb race. Yeah. We went to. Oh, where was it? It was Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh. I was there with Schultz. We actually filmed a. A vlog dropping in on his YouTube channel that is still there to this day. That accounts the entire. The entire event, basically. We went there and we're like, hey, what's there to do in Pittsburgh? They were like, nothing. And we're like, come on. And they were like, all right, fine line. There's a pancake, like, waffle spot. And we're like, okay, is there anything else to do? And they were like, we have one of the steepest hills in the country.

[C]

Steepest street. Like paved street.

[A]

One of the steepest paved streets. And we're like, really? And they're like, yeah, it's over here. And it's not like there's a monument or anything. It's just a guy's driveway, basically.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like a quarter mile long.

[B]

And it's just Mount Washington, I imagine.

[A]

Just a steep thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so we were like, oh, this is perfect. So we went there, we ate maybe a half dozen pancakes, or I think there were waffles, regardless. And then we finished up, and we were like, oh, let's go check out this hill. So we drive over full of these waffles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

See the hill. And then someone's like, hey, let's race up the hill. And so then me, Schultz, and Alex race up the hill. Foot race.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We sprint. I win. I don't want to brag. Well, it doesn't matter.

[B]

It doesn't matter.

[A]

Who even cares? And then I get to the top, and they go, let's run it back. Let's do one more race. And at this point, I'm winded.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is like maybe a two and a half minute race uphill. Yeah. So I was like, ah, all right. Race again. Make it to the very top. I win again. The guys are pissed. Immediately I start going, I don't feel that good. Puke everywhere. Projectile vomit.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[A]

And the whole time, they went from being pissed that they lost and now being so happy.

[B]

Like, we got contact.

[A]

Dying. Laughing. Yeah. Just filming me throwing up in the woods.

[B]

And then. I'm sure you did a very uninspired show that night.

[A]

I feel great, actually.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I love to run.

[B]

You purged.

[A]

Yeah, I love it.

[B]

Is good for you.

[A]

One of my favorite. You heard it here first. A hundred million dollars went to Afghanistan for what they believe to be poppy production.

[B]

Oh, that's in line with a lot of conspiracies.

[A]

From 2002 to 2019, the Agricultural Development Fund received $100 million to provide loans to Afghan farmers to cultivate lawful crops. And people have looked at the poppy production in the window that they were sort of getting funding, and it basically spikes the second that they get funding and then sort of goes down after the funding is taken away from them.

[B]

One of the other reasons I believe that poppy production spiked is because they weren't allowed to do it under the Taliban. And when we took over, we were like, let it fly.

[A]

Yeah. Pills. Yeah.

[B]

I don't think they liked opiates.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. They're not big on bagels. Bagels. It's kind of a Jewish. Yeah, like, we're not gonna make poppy seed bagels for the Jews. You crazy? But, yeah. So people, again, point at this, and they're like, wait, are we funding, like, heroin development?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why? And so, again, none of this has necessarily been confirmed, but it just sort of leads into a larger web where people have kind of speculated that there's been a heroin situation play in Afghanistan, that now there's a little bit more credence to the theory as some of the books are getting opened. Yeah. Apparently there's a big effort from USA to provide trade assistance to Ukrainian models. And designers allowing them to participate in international events such as Fashion Week in New York, Paris and London.

[C]

Yeah, Fun this.

[B]

You're in on that one.

[C]

Yeah, I have no real complications.

[A]

Yes. US lawmakers raised concerned about the USAID funding practices. But on the other hand, proponents of the initiative argue that supporting Ukrainian businesses through international exposure can not only help but sustain the country's economy and also. Excuse me. And also spread a message of peace and Ukrainian support during wartime.

[C]

Yeah, great, More Ukrainian models. I'm in on that one.

[B]

Miles is actually cranking his hog under.

[A]

The table right now.

[B]

It's hard to tell, but it's a.

[A]

Little like honeypot situation to reference a future episode. It's fascinating that they're like, hey, let's get some of these Ukrainian models.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Send them around the world. World.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And every time people look at them, they're like, they're like, free Ukraine. Free Ukraine. Yeah, we need to free them.

[B]

Pay for that, but free you.

[A]

Yeah, right? It's like, it's kind of genius.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so, yeah, if you want to get people on board with like the.

[B]

Ukraine vibe, just show them these bad Ukraine's. Obviously, you know, everyone talks about the war now. I feel like it was a hot spot for catfishing back in the day. It was like a big 90 Day Fiance spot.

[A]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But now it's actually a way better rebrand because you fly a girl out from Ukraine, you're like, hey, come spend a couple weeks with me.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's actually humanitarian work.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good point. Be like, dude, you flew a girl and you're like, bro, she's a refugee. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to save her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But this does just seem like foreign policy created by like some guy in a frat.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He's like, dude, let's take their, like, let's like take some like the babes. And if we just put them on the world stage, people will be like, bro, like, we. These guys are sick.

[B]

Picture this. More hot bitches everywhere. You know what I mean? Dude, dude, dude. Like Bryler, dude, send. There are not enough sluts from Ukraine everywhere.

[A]

Yeah. Look, if you want people to care about your country. Yeah. They gotta care about the.

[B]

Yeah. Think about the babes.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[C]

What's the ratio at this party gonna be like?

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

You gotta fly a couple.

[B]

And that's how they think about the world. What's the ratio on this planet?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not good enough.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. So apparently that's what they Did. And usaid and your tax dollars. Yeah. What you guys have cumulatively contributed probably went directly to flying Ukrainian models around the world.

[B]

Well, that's true.

[C]

Fine.

[B]

Also the pre. Tax dollars.

[A]

Yeah. All right, let's go through a couple more of these, shall we? Oh, this is an interesting one. Apparently we allocated $50 million for condoms in Gaza, so Press secretary Caroline. Leave it. I actually don't know how to pronounce her name. Leave it.

[B]

Leave it.

[A]

Leave it in. That's why I need the condoms. Yep. I don't know if it's leave it or Levitt. It's. You would think Levitt, but it's got an L, E, A.

[B]

Everyone's saying pull out of Gaza, but we're. We're dropping condoms. You don't even have to.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's. You can just go in there, start blowing it up if you need. Yeah. But. Yeah, so apparently we got $50 million worth of condoms in Gaza and they labeled it again, according to the. The White House, describing the Biden administration's policy on this a preposterous waste of taxpayer money. USAID reported that in 2023, approximately 60.8 million was allocated for contraceptives globally, with only about 7 million specifically for condoms. Notably, none of these funds were directed to Gaza or any part of the Middle East. The only region. The only regional recipient was Jordan, which received a small shipment of oral and injectable contraceptives valued at $45,000. That comes from the Guardian.

[B]

It does seem like their least prevalent safety concern. Like, if you're like, in Gaza and there's bombs going on, you're not like, whoa, whoa, let's practice safe sex. Yeah. Nothing here is safe. That being said, it's like giving more condoms to people cuts down on, you know, unwanted pregnancy. It cuts down on unwanted disease. Because if condoms are just around, you might be more likely use.

[A]

It cuts down on some unwanted freedom fighters. That's right. Yeah.

[B]

Actually, yeah. They're nipping terrorists.

[C]

Yeah. Truly.

[A]

Like, I wonder if, like, that's the crazy thing is that I bet you some people are thinking that. Yeah, they're like, dude, no, no, we're gonna help with, you know, contraceptives and safe sex. And they're like, let's just make them stop.

[C]

Yeah. It's hard to radicalize. Like a 40 year old, he's like, I'm not gonna radicalize. But it's really easy to radicalize a future person.

[A]

That's when they get radicalized.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? So, yeah, there's a an organization called the International Medical Corps. The imc. It's a U S. Based organization operating in Gaza. They received 1.2 million from USAID intended for medical and trauma services, including Flam Family Planning. The IMC also recently clarified that no US government funds were used to procure or distribute condoms in Gaza. So while it may be fun to joke about, it sounds like the money was given to the organization. The organization chose to purchase these contraceptives themselves. So.

[B]

So people at the organization are wrapping it up.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

[B]

It's again, it's. It's so many of these are like, it's a good headline. So it's interesting. But it's like probably not a lot of corner stores open.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

People still need to have sex. Barely any of them don't want to have kids because they're in a bit of a tough scenario right now and you can't closed.

[A]

You're not gonna pull out. It's a whole mess. Yeah. It's not no fun.

[B]

Come on. What are we doing? Life is short.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

The evidence is all around us. I'm. I'm spraying guide you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

With respect, with all different.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're my wife.

[B]

Yeah. 100. I will look you in the eyes while I release my seed into your belly.

[A]

Which is why we need a condom, Correct? Yeah. And so from that perspective, you kind of get it, you know? Yeah.

[C]

How many condoms could you buy for 50 mil?

[A]

Dude?

[B]

It's a lot of condoms. Yeah, but are they ribbed for her pleasure? Because that's sort of.

[A]

Doubt it.

[B]

Yeah, maybe not.

[A]

I sort of doubt. I bet you there's a numbing agent on the outside. Yes.

[B]

A massad numbing agent. Yeah.

[A]

We're going to get them from the inside.

[B]

Yeah, I, you know, I. I think the people of Gaza should get whatever for free right now.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's been a tough year and they should get whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

More rice, less condoms.

[B]

Honestly, More rice, more rice. Yes.

[A]

More condoms, I think. I think get us some babes, get them some Ukrainians. Get those Ukrainian models. Be like, hey, we have.

[B]

Send them to get saved. Hey, this will kind of like home, actually.

[C]

But on the water. But on the water.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, you're gonna be on the water, warm water. It's gonna be nice. Yeah. Okay. And you're gonna help the. The effort, you know. Yeah. You're gonna help the boys down there. It could be nice.

[B]

It's a beautiful place. Yeah.

[A]

I don't know, I'm like, we should also just be giving out condoms in America too.

[B]

I think we are. I think we do.

[A]

How hard is it to get a free condom?

[B]

I think that free condoms are everywhere. But. But I think if you pull up to smash a chick with a free condom, she'll look at you sideways and be like, you can't even go name brand.

[C]

Yeah. They do the circular ones, which is so funny.

[A]

But they got to do better with that even.

[B]

What about. What about a stuffed condom so it adds to your length and girth?

[A]

This is the best fucking idea.

[B]

This is a good idea, dude. Yeah. Wait, a padded condom? So you just get a little extra.

[A]

A little extra push, you get a little extra girth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You last longer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's safe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's genius.

[B]

That's an idea.

[A]

That's honestly one of the better. Does that exist? Can you search, like padded? That's got. Right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They're going to steal this one. Like they stole the.

[A]

The Hands Free flashlight.

[B]

Flashlight from the last episode.

[A]

See? Okay. They got some of these. Oh, this is a reusable one.

[B]

Well, it would have to be because you'd probably need a mold of your dinger. You know, you could even get one that vibrates if you're. But I mean, you don't want to la. You don't want to go too quick.

[A]

Yeah, Right. It seems insane. I mean, this is kind of a genius idea. Yeah. Dude.

[B]

Maybe want to props you up if you got a whiskey dick or something.

[A]

This is fun.

[C]

I'm talking to two men who have never really had to bike on.

[A]

Yeah, I haven't.

[B]

I haven't. Haven't. I mean.

[A]

Yeah, you did.

[B]

In the past a decade.

[C]

Hasn't ever.

[A]

Yeah, I don't believe I haven't been.

[B]

Yeah, I've been hitting it raw for a while.

[A]

There's not enough humanitarian aid in my home. We've been missing out on our USA to shipment, unfortunately. Unfortunately. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, dude. Yeah. I mean, it is better raw, obviously, but, you know, theoretically, you need a little extra push, you know, like, what if you have a micro penis? You should still be able to please a lady.

[A]

Yeah. You know, that's actually. See, these are the initiatives. This is what the people in Washington. Yeah. Need to be talking about.

[B]

This is a hundred million dollars for prosthetic condom penises to Gaza. Only for men with micro penises.

[C]

If the three of us were in Theta, it'd be so much.

[B]

And if they made the micro penis guys happier, there'd be a Lot less war. War.

[A]

Think about that.

[B]

There'd be a lot less war.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

World peace. No, give everyone a little.

[B]

Yeah. World peace.

[A]

Yeah. Give everyone a lot additional to their peace.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't know. I'm kind of with you on this. I think this is where we. We should be out.

[B]

I think USA should hire us because we have good ideas.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We're not trying to sterilize the people of Peru. We're trying to help them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're the opposite, dude. Be fruitful, but don't multiply.

[A]

I mean, so what would you do? Let's say someone's like, hey, we have to put $40,000 into a comic book. You know, should we do it in America? Should we try to revitalize DC's reputation? Like, where's. Where do we allocate this $40 trillion of USAID where it has to go.

[B]

To a comic book?

[A]

I mean, could.

[B]

No, I would say it. Yeah. It should go to just really shit. You should give it to people to walk around big cities and give out one or $2 to each homeless person so that the average person doesn't need to feel guilty built when they're walking around.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

You know what I mean? So now when a homeless person's like, hey, I need five bucks, I go, buddy, they're coming. Yeah, it's fine.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, and I feel like, because.

[A]

I'm not carrying cash, I got a handful of coins.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And wait, are you saying that they just give it out to homeless people or.

[B]

Yeah, they distribute people.

[C]

I think it'd be better if we get to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Interact.

[A]

But you get the goodwill.

[B]

The goodwill.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

They should give you walking around money to give to homeless people. People.

[A]

That's a good idea. And you have to give it.

[B]

It would encourage more asking, though. I think that's true. But you.

[A]

But yeah, I would be asking, but, you know, I would probably just be around.

[C]

Be like, if Mark's in a shave today, he could be asking.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I was. I was close.

[B]

That is true. Just be a bunch of people. Yeah. This is the problem with it. You come up with one good idea, but it has external consequences.

[A]

Yeah, the State Building is hard.

[B]

It is hard, right?

[A]

We got to give these CIA guys a break. Be like, look, you tried your best.

[B]

You're doing a tough gig.

[A]

The US aid guys, you look, you tried to give rice to Haiti. Haiti, yeah. Did you kill thousands of Haitians in the process? Did you destroy their agriculture?

[C]

Also, what a title. Miami Rice sounds like cocaine. Boys got into some Miami rice last weekend.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That'd be a sick show.

[B]

We should make that Miami rice.

[A]

Just barbecue down in Haiti.

[B]

Yeah, it's just an Asian cop in Lauderdale.

[A]

He's driving in his Ferrari or whatever.

[C]

No, no, it'd be a rice stout.

[A]

Yeah, it's. That's fire. But yeah, it's a. It's a tricky thing. Another interesting one that I read about was that usaid, apparently this is one of the more like covert operations that they were trying to fund a. An initiative to help people communicate through the Internet, basically creating a social media site in Cuba and that they wanted to create like a competitor to like Twitter in Cuba for the Cuban citizens. And it didn't really work. It sort of failed. It cost a ton of money. And instead of being effective and being useful for us to sort of send, because basically the goal was that we're going to create our own Cuban Twitter. Yeah.

[B]

The Buena Vista Social Club.

[A]

Yeah. US secretly creates Cuban Twitter to stir unrest and undermine mind the government.

[B]

And when people do this to us, we get so bad, then we just do it to them.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, where do you think they learn it? We're the originator.

[B]

Tick tock.

[A]

Yeah. So basically we're going to create our Cuban Twitter and then slowly we're going to infiltrate, you know, like anti Russian propaganda on there, some anti China stuff and maybe some anti Cuban government stuff and cause some unrest. People appointed to like Arab Spring being like an example of the United States using our social media influence as a way to upend a democratically elected government. Government. So if we're able to do this.

[B]

Then Elon has now done perhaps. Yeah, right.

[A]

It'd be great. It didn't really work. And then instead it seems like the Cuban government officials were actually just able to harvest that data and the information to gain political understanding about like some like150,000 Cuban citizens.

[B]

We'll backfire there. Let's backfire.

[A]

But I think we need to talk more about USA's achievements.

[C]

Yeah. What have they done?

[A]

What? Well, I don't know. That's not part of my research.

[B]

Well, we talked about the anti malaria.

[A]

Yeah, let's find out.

[C]

We have a friend that works for usaid. Actually, we have a friend who works for a nonprofit that is funded by usaid and he's been calling me a lot. They're not really doing much lately.

[A]

He's been pretty free.

[C]

He's had a lot of free time. It's actually crazy. He literally called me. He's like I was like, what are you doing? Aren't you supposed to be in the office?

[B]

He's like, no, no.

[C]

Nope. And he seems. He seems to do good stuff.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so we got a couple things here. Let's check it out. Look. Seems like the. In the education sector, USA helped improved the reading skills of 289. 286,000 students in over 280 schools developed 645,000 pieces of reading materials and teacher guides that targeted boosting literacy skills. And. Yeah. Trained 2,000 teachers on the best practices for effective teaching.

[B]

None of that's a good headline.

[A]

That's not nearly interesting compared to what we talked about.

[C]

Yeah, sounds great.

[B]

A lot of the good stuff that I think governments can do, just. It's not. You can't sink your teeth into it.

[A]

No.

[B]

It's downstream. Like, all these people who know how to read. It's like, okay, cool. What are they up to? It could be great things.

[C]

I've got an idea.

[B]

They're writing trans musicals. Go ahead.

[C]

We take hot Ukrainian women.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Make them teachers in parts of the world that is low on teaching and literacy.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The students want to come to class because they have hot teachers.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

We give them slutty outfits.

[B]

Teach you how to make that dick go up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Now you've got kids coming to class and teachers teaching, and now everyone in.

[A]

The world just has a Ukrainian accent.

[C]

That's fine.

[A]

Duh.

[C]

That's fine of me.

[A]

But, yeah. They did a bunch of stuff with, like, malaria. They did feed people, you know, I don't have the exact details. I'm sure someone could look it up.

[B]

You know, so some good things. Why get bogged down, is there, with what is happening? I don't know if you know the answer to this, but with what is happening with Elon and Trump hoping to shut it down, is it like, well, maybe we can keep some of the reading things.

[A]

It's not what it looks like. So this is where people are like, okay, what happens now? Right. Like, now all this is coming out. More of it, I'm sure will come out by the time even this episode comes out up. And people are looking at this and they're saying, all right, so what do we do? It seems kind of like what the dude in El Salvador did with the crime there. He was like, hey, we have one of the highest murder rates in the entire world. We have cartels that are basically upending our government, and our citizens are dying in crazy, crazy numbers. So what are we going to do arrest everyone.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you seen this?

[B]

No.

[A]

They've looked. El Salvador prison.

[C]

It's crazy.

[B]

They have a lot of dudes in prison.

[A]

They, they have the highest capacity of prisoners in the world. Now United States used to have it for a long time time.

[B]

And I think he offered Trump to put migrants there.

[A]

Exactly. That is exactly what he did. Which is insane. If you got arrested here and then.

[B]

They send you top left, top left, top left.

[A]

So they literally just a lot of dudes.

[C]

And it's not even that you had to be like a criminal. It's that you had to like be roughly a criminal. Like it was a very like big over correction of arresting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That.

[C]

So there's no like civil liberties. Basically it was like, ah, dude, you sold weed once. Or like you were a drug dealer. Roughly. And that person's like, I was just trying to make money.

[B]

Like I'm not like selling some nug to the boys. And you end up with a chicken coop. Can you imagine the smell?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Smell horrible, dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have two dudes in a bunk bed. It smells like these guys are.

[A]

Yeah. It's a tough vibe. But there are.

[B]

Does create. I mean, you know, this isn't people better.

[C]

The president of El Salvador claims that they have the lowest murder rate in the western hemisphere.

[A]

That is true. Well, that is true.

[C]

That information directly comes from the government that put all those people away. So.

[A]

No, but I've actually was looking into this and there are like other reports that like certainly their homicide rate has gone down.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.

[A]

And people are suggesting that it's even possible that El Salvador's homicide rate is lower than the United States in 2024.

[B]

Yes. But how many lives were ruined by this is the. Is the ultimate question.

[C]

98% in nine years. Holy.

[B]

So problem solved. I guess the question is is this at what cost? And is this a long term thing where he's just like we're going to be a. You know, I don't know what you would call that a police state.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Jail. Ever. Or is it like, hey, we've made a shift in the culture and now we cannot jail everybody. Yeah.

[A]

And then slowly let people out based off their offenses and go through everyone's paperwork.

[C]

What's the country that can people sue still? Singapore.

[A]

Oh, Thailand. Singapore.

[C]

I can't remember Singapore. Like canes the out of people if they like throw their gum on the ground. Like they have like a very like I'm making an exaggeration. But they do literally do like some crazy punishment yeah, to people that do, like, sort of minor infractions. And on one hand, apparently, Singapore is, like, the cleanest country ever. Like, people go there and they're like, holy. It's the cleanest place in the world. On the other hand, they can. They literally, like, brutal, totally beat people. And the crazy part about the caning in Singapore, it's not like, oh, they hit you once. If you get 20 lashes, you get hit really hard. And if you. If you say, stop, stop, you then get to recover and then go back for the rest of them. It's not. It's never a number.

[B]

It's like you have to space them out.

[A]

There's a hilarious story. By hilarious, I mean it's, like, kind of wild, but also sort of funny. But this guy named Michael Fay, who was lashed six times with a cane in 1994 in Singapore for vandalism. He's an American teenager. And in 1993, 67 cars were vandalized in various neighborhoods of Singapore, including spray painting and eggs. Sounds sort of American, right? They arrested two teenagers who were driving a car similar to the one witnessed. Faye was one of the students. He pleaded guilty to two counts of vandalism and said that he spray painted two of the cars in mid September. And then, due to the 1966 Vandalism act, trying to curse her political graffiti, he eventually lost his appeal and then was caned six times. The Clinton administration tried to express objection to this and tried to get him not caned. But unfortunately, Singapore was like, yo, is.

[B]

Kane just getting hit with a cane?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, oh, don't. It's gross. Their asses look like him. It's, like, bad. It's, like, brutal as.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So Faye told Reuters that he did not know that the time had come for his punishment. When he was taken from a cell, they bent him over a tree.

[C]

They don't tell you when it's gonna happen.

[A]

They bent him, sat in a cell.

[C]

And then one day, if they come in and they go, hey, your food's here. The next day it might be, hey, you're coming with us. Oh, so you just sit there and.

[A]

Think they put him there with his butt.

[C]

Hey, we're all good.

[B]

I want to know.

[C]

Good.

[A]

No, no, Gabe, please pull that back up. Thank you. They stick his butt out, and then they put his hands and his feet buckled to the structure. He's naked except a rubber pad fixed to his back. Back. The flogger. A doctor in prison officials were also present. Fay said that the caner then walked sharply toward three steps. And they said, count one. They yell really loud. And then they. They basically track him, just like stroke him in the back with this cane that when the fourth stroke was delivered, he was immediately unbuckled from the trestle and taken to the cell to recover. And then he. It left streaks of blood running down his buttocks.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I'm sorry I brought this up.

[B]

No, I mean, well, it's good to know some places. Singapore is nice. And I'm like, well, I'd love to go, but I won't. I won't do any vandalism.

[A]

It's too nice. Why is it so nice?

[B]

What if you were into that?

[A]

Then you better vandalize.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Yeah, but, yeah, it's one of those things where it's like, okay, you've overcorrected. Now there's no more murder in El Salvador. Now there's no more graffiti in Singapore. Yeah, but at what cost? I feel like this is a similar situation where it's like, hey, we're gutting the whole thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is, you know, a part of Trump's, you know, politics. It seems like it's like, hey, we're getting rid of all these departments. We're cleaning up all the inefficiency. And certainly doing this will clean up money laundering, it will clean up government inefficiency, it will clean up, you know, some of the soft power tactics that we've done to exert power, probably at the detriment of many innocent sovereign people around the world. And also people might, you know, not have access to medication, might not have access to food, et cetera, etc, certainly people that have now become dependent on foreign influence and aid. And is it possible in that power vacuum that other countries, a la China, Russia, et cetera, will fill in and then gain some type of, I don't know, favor with the nations that they now enter into?

[B]

Yeah, it's possible.

[A]

So it's fascinating. We'll see eventually what happens. So on January 24, Trump ordered a total freeze on foreign aid. The website is, like, basically scrubbed. You can't even really access this. A lot of, like, the nos that were a part of it, a lot of them have, like, pulled off their board of directors because they're like, oh, we're all going to get, like, investigated. Like, no one really even knows what's going on. And other people are seeing this as a political strategy that, like, hey, we're going to find, like, the departments in the United States government that are the most bloated, that have, like, the most visible corruption. And by being able to get wins early on politically and sort of dissolving these departments, we can then go down the list. List and dissolve more departments. Right. And this seems like it's following almost like a Milton Friedman esque economic policy of like, hey, let's get rid of all this bureaucratic bloat. And even Elon actually tweeted a. And this is the USAID website. You can see it's basically just has a message with nothing on it.

[C]

Well, they have a great logo by the way, the hands shaking in the middle. That's a great one, right?

[B]

Nine billion for that. Yeah.

[C]

Worth every penny.

[A]

But actually, it's interesting, Elon tweeted an interview that Milton Friedman did where he talked about, you know, which government agencies should be slashed. And they basically went through all of them top to bottom. And Milton Friedman was like, get rid of everything basically other than like, you know, the IRS and like the justice system. Like everything else is bloated. Get rid of it all. So it seems like that's more or less where the, the, where the political, you know, sort of vibe is going are.

[B]

So it's one of those things where the concept of it sounds good but you don't know what you're missing out on. So yeah, I think it's good that we're revisiting it.

[A]

Right. And it's also interesting because it's now become a, a political mirage for everyone. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like if you're working for like the Peace Corps and you're giving rights to people and now all of a sudden you can't, you're like, this guy's racist, hates people, he's anti human women. And then if you're, you know, like, I have friends, actually we have a mutual friend that was in the military that had to work with USAID people and was like, yeah, they're the worst. They were late, they were slow, they didn't seem like they cared. Like the whole thing seemed like a complete fugazi.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And those people are like, yeah, get rid of them. They're in the way of our operations. And then, you know, if you look at these rich people that are stealing money from it, you're like, them, why are they getting rich often? So like literally wherever you line politically and whatever your foreign policy position is, is this thing is just like becomes a completely different thing for you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's interesting to see what will happen.

[C]

This is also final little interesting thing. While USAID and Department State are preparing a plan under which USA personnel So if you're right now in like, a different country and the USA has been shuttered for 30 days, if you. It seems like if you buy your own, travel back to America to sort of like get away from that place, they'll reimburse you. And I'm like, lay flat through Hawaii.

[A]

Yeah, P.J.

[C]

Yeah, Hawaii. Stay for four days and then get back to wherever the hell you live.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then go. You said you reimburse me.

[A]

The other symptom of the Democrat bloat, isn't it just crazy how these guys do it?

[C]

Right?

[A]

They just try to milk the American taxpayer.

[B]

It's been both parties, but, yeah.

[A]

No, I mean, that's honestly a good plan that would do the same. The same thing, to be honest with you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see what happens. Is this going to happen to every other department in the United States? Does this happen. Does this happen with the, you know, Department of Education? We'll see.

[B]

The Department of fluffed Condoms. Yeah, we gotta start that.

[A]

So I don't know. What'd you learn? What do you think? Did you know anything about this beforehand? What do you feel like you. You feel about this now?

[B]

I think, yeah, I was. It was very helpful to go through it, the specifics, because I see the top line stuff where it's basically people being like, thank God we're finally cutting this. This needed to go. And other people being like, you want African children to die? And I think that it makes me want to read more about the specific projects, because some of them seem like bullshit, but other ones seem to have. They have a good purpose. So I guess if we do get rid of it, would we be establishing any sort of smaller group to continue, you know, helping people in poor nations that don't have the ability to fight diseases at least?

[A]

Yeah, there's another.

[B]

Continue doing that.

[A]

Another element is that, like, Rubio is now in charge of, like, overseeing it, I think, or something like that. So, yeah, so now you got like, Marco Rubio in there. And so then the question is, like, will the cure be better than, you know, the disease that was there before? Yeah. Like, do we trust that Rubio and Elon will be able to come through and clean it all up? I guess we'll see. Yeah, it's one of those where it's like, look, if people stop dying of fentanyl, maybe these tariff things were genius, you know? Know, like, I think Mulaney has that bit where he calls Trump like the.

[B]

Horse in a hospital horse in a Hospital.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, is this bad? Like, is it good? Like, who knows? Another thing that's interesting with this is like, does it indicate that Trump is still like an outsider? Like several. Everyone's been like, oh, he's like a part of the machine. Like, he's not here to like get rid of anything, da da, da. But like doing this, is this like an out what an outsider would do?

[C]

It's a wrench in the machine for sure. Like his machine is halting or at least this small part of whatever the major machine is, is halting.

[A]

Have you heard of this idea of accelerationism? This is fast. This is like a political idea where basically like you promote and like encourage anything to happen so long as it accelerates the destruction of the current system that you think is oppressive and wrong.

[B]

It's like left wing people supporting Trump because they're like, he's going to do so many things, like cutting back on so many things. It will lead to increased oligarchy, increased insane late stage capitalism, increased inequality, that people will actually finally be like, oh.

[C]

Yeah, it'll inspire the left to actually like do something that's interesting. There's a sort of similar theory, like.

[B]

Not in I don't want my to get up. So I'm not an acceleration. Yes.

[A]

I just want to be my own anarchist.

[C]

Yeah, there's a similar, I don't want to say like infrastructure. There's something similar, but there is something similar in the historical. Like we think of Japan and Germany and all these like European countries having like great infrastructure. Basically. Basically. And part of that, that people are now saying is that it's a post World War II like benefit of your whole country getting bombed, which is like, you have the time to rebuild, you have the time to think forward. And America has never been attacked on foreign land.

[B]

And also, you're welcome, Germany and Japan.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Except for 9 11. Except for 911 we haven't been attacked on American land. And it's interesting that like the nicest part of the the New York City MTA subway system is the lower Manhattan 911 subway stations.

[B]

So what are you proposing, Miles?

[A]

I'm not proposing devious.

[C]

I'm not proposing anything. I'm just saying that it is interesting.

[B]

Might not make any more fans with this line of thinking.

[A]

So evil just might.

[C]

Evil. Miles, that would be sort of accelerationist.

[B]

In a way, certainly.

[A]

And as someone that wants to just go back to hunting and gathering and the sooner we can just get back to, to just chilling with the boys and just Honestly, just doing this right here. Just on horseback going through Utah, just chilling.

[B]

Man with podcast yearns for simpler times.

[A]

Run the headline. Run the headline immediately. I wish we didn't have to be recording. I wish we just.

[C]

Man who makes every dime he ever makes online, hates the Internet.

[A]

You want to know something? If we were all around a fire, hunting and gathering, we wouldn't need money.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

True.

[B]

We just need meat.

[A]

Yeah, Just meat. And just babes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, what's more, bro, than just being a native? Just running around meeting babes.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

Just grounding. Yeah. Sounding.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, have you heard of sound?

[B]

Oh, I know about sounding.

[A]

It's my. One of my favorite things to do.

[B]

Yeah, nice. Something shoved up the old ure.

[A]

You ever heard of sounding?

[C]

No.

[A]

Can we get a picture of sounding now?

[B]

You never watched Kids in the sandbox.

[C]

Growing back up entertaining?

[A]

Well, I think that was a USA initiative in Afghanistan.

[B]

You know, Two Girls, One cup was actually a USA project.

[C]

That's actually what they called the Sesame street project over there. Kids in the sand.

[B]

Sounding is. Yeah, it shoves, as you can see, an item there into your pee hole.

[A]

And right into your urethra.

[C]

Franklin, I hate this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This feels like the end of the episode. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, you can sign this off.

[A]

Anyway, thank you guys so much.

[B]

You know what? Before we do that, Mark, we don't.

[A]

Have any shows coming up.

[B]

That's not true.

[A]

Really?

[B]

We can plug our show in Portland, Maine.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Speaking of sounding, it is.

[B]

Come and get your penis plugged. Mark and I are co headlining in Portland, Maine, April 27th. So come on out and see both of us joey.com live for all my shows and show podcast.

[A]

Probably the best place to buy t. Cuz I don't have a website yet.

[B]

Is that serious?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where do people buy tickets to your show? Shows? Joey.com live mark will be at all the shows. Come out. Come on out. Buy tickets.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Stand up.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a little behind, so I gotta figure that out.

[B]

Get a website.

[A]

It's just so hard to do it.

[B]

Just wants to hunt and gather.

[A]

Oh my goodness. If only he gets. I'm trying to really just get sponsored by like WIX or Squarespace. It's just a long play.

[C]

Squarespace might be the easiest sponsor in the history of sponsorships on podcast only.

[A]

I knew how to build a website website.

[C]

If only. If only you had AI tools that could help you build a website.

[A]

Exactly. And I'm open. I'm open for any bids, but yeah, I just need to get A website. But anyway, come see us. That'll be a great show. Yeah, I can guarantee it'll be fun. Yeah. That they'll be laughing.

[B]

I think we're at a college the night before in Maine. I don't even know if you can buy tickets to that. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. We're doing. What is it, like an adjunct? We're doing.

[B]

Yeah, we're teaching. We're teaching about sounding at the University of Urethra Main.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bangor it is, actually.

[B]

The show, I think is in Bangor.

[A]

Can't wait. Yeah, it's gonna be a good time. I can't wait to see everybody there. Miles is also gonna do some time on that show.

[C]

Dude, I would love that.

[A]

You would do great.

[C]

Thanks.

[A]

You would do awesome. I would really enjoy it.

[C]

That'd be awesome.

[A]

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