Campus Files: The Army's Got Your Goat – Detailed Summary
Episode Information:
- Title: The Army's Got Your Goat
- Host/Author: Audacy (Host: Ian Mott)
- Release Date: July 30, 2025
- Podcast Description: Campus Files delves beneath the surface of American college life, uncovering stories ranging from admissions rigging to sports scandals. This episode explores the intriguing tale of a notorious mascot heist between military academies.
Introduction
In the episode titled "The Army's Got Your Goat," Campus Files investigates a legendary incident from 1965 involving West Point cadets and the Naval Academy's beloved mascot, Bill the Goat. Host Ian Mott introduces the story, setting the stage for a deep dive into this audacious act of collegiate rivalry.
Setting the Stage: West Point and Military Academia
Tom Carhart, a West Point graduate, provides a personal backdrop to the story, highlighting his admiration for West Point and its rigorous environment.
"[...] the finest men I ever met were West Point graduates."
— Tom Carhart [03:05]
West Point, officially the United States Military Academy, was established in 1802 and serves as one of the premier institutions for training future Army officers. Admission is highly competitive, requiring nominations from Congress members or higher officials, making Tom's acceptance a notable achievement.
The Legendary Rivalry and Mascots
The episode delves into the storied rivalry between the Army and Navy, particularly centered around their mascots. The Naval Academy's Bill the Goat became intertwined with the rivalry after being introduced as a mascot in 1890. In response, West Point adopted mules as their mascots in 1899.
Notably, previous mascot thefts set the precedent for the 1965 heist:
"In 1953, during the height of the school's rivalry, Bill the 12th was kidnapped one week before the Army Navy game..."
— Ian Mott [08:52]
These acts, though disruptive, became part of the lore between the institutions, leading to heightened tensions and creative schemes among cadets.
Planning the Heist
In the fall of 1965, Tom Carhart and his friend Dean Kleinhos conceived a plan to steal Bill the Goat from the Naval Security Station in Severna Park. Despite warnings from Bob Kazmodo's father and initial setbacks during reconnaissance, the determination of the cadets remained unshaken.
"We thought of ourselves as immortal. They'll never get me."
— Tom Carhart [17:13]
The group meticulously planned the operation, assembling a crew of six, securing necessary tools like a crowbar, and devising distraction tactics involving their peers.
Execution of the Mascot Heist
On the night of the operation, the cadets successfully infiltrated the high-security Severna Park Naval Security Station. Their plan involved distracting the marine guards with decoys while stealthily approaching Bill's enclosure.
Key moments during the heist include:
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Breaking Through:
"We approached the second gate and saw that there was a Marine guard coming and we didn't have passes for that element."
— Tom Carhart [02:01] -
Securing Bill the Goat:
"We went up to the goat cage. It was on three. One, two, three. And jerked down and broke the lock."
— Tom Carhart [18:02]
Despite the dangers, including navigating armed guards, the cadets managed to free Bill and transport him back to West Point, albeit with chaos ensuing from the goat's distress.
Aftermath and Disciplinary Actions
Upon returning, the cadets faced immediate repercussions. The theft triggered an intense investigation involving the FBI and Marines. Tom and his crew navigated disciplinary hearings, where their actions were initially met with stern reprimands. However, their audacity and the shared camaraderie among officers led to an unexpected leniency.
"They were delighted. They were all smothering their laughter because they're all West Point graduates."
— Tom Carhart [28:00]
Ultimately, the commandant acknowledged their ingenuity indirectly through the academy's revered phrase:
"And what we have done is... fulfill our duty, honor, country."
— Tom Carhart [28:33]
Their actions, though technically against orders, were celebrated as a testament to West Point's rigorous training and esprit de corps.
Legacy of the Mascot Heist
The 1965 heist became legendary, inspiring subsequent generations of cadets. Although official agreements aimed to curtail such acts, the tradition of mascot theft persisted, each instance adding to the rich tapestry of Army-Navy rivalry.
Notable subsequent incidents include:
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Operation Good Shepherd (2007):
"West Point cadets undertook Operation Good Shepherd, abducting all three goats..."
— Ian Mott [30:13] -
Attempted Theft in 2021:
"In 2021, cadets tried to steal Bill the 37th, but made so much noise that they spooked him."
— Ian Mott [30:13]
Tom Carhart, now in his 80s, reflects fondly on his youthful endeavor, recognizing both its daring nature and the profound bond it symbolized within the military community.
"I was intimidated, but I did it anyway."
— Tom Carhart [31:27]
Conclusion: Reflections on Military Education and Tradition
The episode concludes by exploring the deeper implications of such traditions on military training and culture. Tom Carhart emphasizes the transformative impact of West Point, shaping young individuals into committed servants of their country.
"Duty, honor, country. And it strikes very deeply. I'm a West Point graduate. I'm very proud of that."
— Tom Carhart [32:38]
This storied incident not only highlights the lengths to which cadets will go to uphold their institutional pride but also underscores the enduring spirit of camaraderie and resilience fostered within military academies.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
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"We thought of ourselves as immortal. They'll never get me."
— Tom Carhart [17:13] -
"It was like being in a... It was a federal institution, like being in prison."
— Tom Carhart [05:44] -
"If we just walk away, it'll disappear. So we decided we'd have a last minute rally..."
— Tom Carhart [25:51] -
"Duty, honor, country. And it strikes very deeply. I'm a West Point graduate."
— Tom Carhart [32:38]
Credits:
- Written and Reported by: Ian Mott
- Produced by: Ian Mott, Eliot Adler, and Margo Gray
- Executive Producers and Story Editors: Maddie Sprunkheiser and Lloyd Lockridge
- Edited, Mixed, and Mastered by: Chris Basel and Andy Jaskowicz
- Special Thanks: Jenna Weiss Berman, J.D. Crowley, Leah Rhys, Dennis, Maura Curran, Josephina Francis, Kurt Courtney, Hilary Schuff, Sean Cherry, Laura Berman, and Hilary Van Ornam
- Original Theme Music By: James Waterman and Davy Sumner
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This summary encapsulates the key points and narratives from the "The Army's Got Your Goat" episode of Campus Files, providing an engaging and comprehensive overview for those unfamiliar with the original podcast.