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That's like a weird she got away with so much. Why then make her the first lady of France? I offered. I speculated that there's probably an element of theology here. Welcome back to Candice. If you're a regular listener of this podcast and you have heard me say many times, everything is theology, but I can't take credit for that. That's actually something that my husband shared with me, at least when we first met. I asked him, why did you decide to study theology at Oxford? I remember thinking back then, like 2018, 2019. Of all of the subjects available for a student to take on at, why would somebody want to pick religion, especially a religion that you don't necessarily follow? Why do you want to learn about all of this? How silly I was, how wrong I was. Actually, I think now one of my biggest academic regrets is that I went to college, wasted my time when I should have just been studying religion and theology because in my political life I suddenly realize nothing else actually matters. Really. Everything else is theater. If you don't know what is guiding someone, spiritually speaking, then you can't comprehend what is happening. It was at university that my husband made a decision to convert to Catholicism. And an even stranger decision in my mind in my 2018American mind, because it's almost a marker of a public education in America to be anti Catholic. It's like Catholicism is a no, no. Everything you learned in history, the Catholics were just going wild, doing everything wrong in Europe and gratefully America. You're a young country, but you're getting it. Right. I now have a better understanding today of why that is. And it. I should say now, isn't it kind of curious that Brigitte is allegedly a devout Catholic? Anybody following the story believing that as a quote unquote, Catholic, you'll recall that she wanted. She first got into office, Brigitte Macron wanted to transform the dome of Notre Dame into a penis. I'm not kidding. You guys remember this? Look, here's the headline. Just to quickly recap here. French President's wife proposed Phallus and Golden balls for Notre Dame rebuilds. And here is a quote from that article. Because when Brigitte first entered into office, we're saying she entered. She's supposed to be the wife of. But I guess when Macron first entered into office, the Minister of French Culture was a woman named Rosalind Bachelot. And Rosalind Bachelet is the one that received the proposal from Brigitte. And here in that article is what Rosalind Bachelet recapped in her book. She wrote, quote, I do not regret this insubordination. When at lunch, we Brigitte Macron, a few days later, she shows me a project topped with a sort of erect phallus with its base surrounded with golden balls. I'm sorry, what? To be clear, they fired. They just got rid of that woman. They replaced her because they were like, okay, you don't want to put the golden balls in the dome. You don't want to do that. You got to go. You got to go. Bye, Bye, Rosalynn. And Rosalind does not regret, as she should, not her insubordination, because what on earth. I get it. I know what's happening. Because what better way to destroy your true enemies than from within to say, I'm. Yeah, I'm Catholic. And, yeah, Macron and me fell in love. He was 14. I get it. I get it. I gotta tell you guys something else about myself, a little fact. The first thing that I ever wanted to be in life, I remember this vividly, was an archaeologist in third grade. I got kind of obsessed. We learn about archeology. I don't know really what was motivating it beyond learning about Egypt. Needless to say, it didn't work out for me in life. But my interest in artifacts being dug up to that reveal secrets from the past, well, that never went away, which is why this artifact. There is an artifact, rather, in this Brigitte Macron saga. And it completely piqued my attention. I was like, you know, I feel like I should be paying attention, paying attention to this for Some reason. So here is the true story. Here's. It's just a fact. In Amiens, remember, that is the town where both Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte Macron were born. There is an artifact that got discovered in 1845. It was a. It is a bronze statuette, and it was located on the property of this military man named Captain Bornell. Now, I'm unsure if it's because of a language barrier that exists, but I'm currently unable to learn anything more about this Captain Bornell other than the fact that this statue was specifically found in the neighborhood of Henryville in Amiens. Now, if Henryville is ringing a bell to you, that's because you will recall that that is the specific neighborhood that Emmanuel Macron grew up with. Manette. Yeah. So I'm. I was interested, and I'm sorry. I'm interested because they decided to name this statue. It's still an Amian. It's feature museum. The God of Amien. Like, I'm sorry, but if I was just going in my backyard and I dug up something that looked like a pagan figurine, I wouldn't name it the God of anything. I would be like, oh, we found. This is interesting. But somebody made the decision to name that the God of Amien. I needed to know more because you can always count on me to not mind my own business. Okay? And like I said, what was compelling me was the name of it. Right? None of us would do that. Think about it right now, no matter what you dig up in your backyard, you're not going to place it in your house and call it a God, unless you're maybe pagan yourself. So let's take a look at this statue, right? The statue itself is missing something in its hand, in both sides, actually. You will also note that the statue itself kind of looks like it's a young boy. It has an animal ear. I can tell you now that what is supposed to be in its left hand, you can see something's missing. From that left hand is a snake. Okay? And what's supposed to be in that broken arm? Is he supposed to be holding grapes? Here is what that statue should, like, should look like. Okay? On the right hand side, we know that because that statue is called the God of Beson Son, which is south of Paris in France. So that on the left is what is the God of Amiens. On the right, that is the God of Besancon. Again, who's giving these statues this name? I don't know. Now, I'm going to explain to you And I want you to listen very carefully to everything that is represented in this unique statue. God, quote unquote, God of Amiens. Okay? King Midas is represented by the animal ear. Cybele, who was a demon. And also the ancient mother goddess of Anatolia, who castrates herself, is castrated, is represented by the snake. And then Dionysus also goes by the name Addis, is represented by the grapes. Okay? That's the effeminate looking male. And lastly, the goat ear is Pan. I'm going to tell you the story of how these all come together, how these mythological figures are all related to the same story. As it turns out, the statue relates to the pagan belief in how Phrygia, which is a region in modern day Turkey in Anatolia came to be. I'm showing you that on the map. It is relevant. Turkey is always very relevant. The story goes that there was an oracle that, that was consulted to determine who would become the next king of Phrygia. Now, consulting an oracle genuinely, generally speaking, typically involves some high priestess who becomes possessed spiritually by the deities and is able to communicate messages. This particular oracle declared that it was going to be Gordius who would become the king of Phrygia. And he would do this once. He rode his cart into Phrygia alongside the high priestess Agdistis. Okay? Agdustus was a hermaphrodite. The gods feared this monstrosity, saw it as a demon. And so they castrated Agnitus and then she was. What was left was a woman, I suppose, and she becomes Cybele. Some of this is starting to sound familiar to you. You're like, you know, it kind of. The story's mixed. You get the Greek, the Roman, the Turkish virgin. But follow me, follow me with this. I want to be clear here, okay? The ancient Turks. To the ancient Turks, there is no higher goddess that is worshiped than this priestess Cybele. She is their Magna mater, the great mother of Anatolia. So Cybele goes on and she mothers two children. Don't worry, I'm going to actually show you a mythological family chart. Cybele goes, she mothers two children. The first one she mothers with King Gorius, right? He. They rode into town together. That child becomes is Midas. Everybody knows King Midas, right? King Midas, the golden touch. And her other child, who she mothers is with someone else. And it was a bit of a scandal of, of how this child came about. That child is Dionysus. Now you will recall that Brigitte Macron Ramamian hand picked Thomas Jolly to put on that now notorious Olympic show that outraged the world. Brigitte was intimately involved in the planning of that performance. For some reason, when the world objected to what looked like a promotion of trans ideology and a mockery of the Last Supper. Curiously, the Elysee palace rebutted, quote unquote, clarified to the public that it was actually supposed to be a tribute to Dionysus, the Greek God of wine in revelry that is represented in this God of Amian figurine. Okay. Brigitte actually went so far. This meant so much to her. To clarify this point that she stipulated in her lawsuit against me, that performance was actually about a Greek God. It says Owens went so far as to claim that the 2024 Olympic opening ceremony, which was a tribute to Greek mythology, was designed to honor Brigitte Macron because she is transgender. Oh, so you're doubling down that this is actually supposed to be something related to Greece? Again, I should have noticed it then. But that's another clue. They say way too much. The Elyse pals way too much when they pretend to be outraged about something. Back to Dionysus, right? The second child of Cybele in Greek mythology. The story goes that Zeus became quite enchanted with this priestess. Cybele, Zeus, if you know, he was just. He was cheating all the time on Hera, his wife. And one of these individuals, it's Sibily, he gets enchanted by this priestess, and he begins to see her on the side. And the end result is that Sibily becomes pregnant. Pregnant with his child. Hera, Zeus's wife, decides, like, oh, this is. This is crazy. And she's in a fit of rage, and she decides that she's going to disguise herself as a nurse, and she's going to ingratiate herself with a pregnant Sibily and manipulate Sibily by sowing seeds of doubt in her mind, like, oh, are you sure that your paramour is Zeus? Like, the God Zeus? And Sibley's like, yeah, I'm sure. She's like, how are you sure? Have you ever seen him? Has he ever presented himself in his. In his full, godly, divine form? Like, I feel like you should find out whether or not that's actually Zeus. That's chunky. And it works. The reason Hera wants Cybele to ask Zeus to appear before her in his divine glory is because, mythologically speaking, if a God appeared in his full divinity before a human or a priestess, it would automatically kill that person. The sight is. Is just too divine. And like I said, Hero's trick works. Cybele Then says Zeus, if you're actually. If you're actually Zeus, appear before me and instantly Seuss is like, no, don't make me do this. Make me do this. He does it. Cybele is then struck by a thunderbolt of lightning, and Cybele dies and goes into the underworld. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Between two factor authentication, strong passwords and a VPN, you try to be in control of how your info is protected, but many other places also have it and they might not be as careful. That's why LifeLock monitors hundreds of millions of data points as second for threats. If your identity is stolen, they'll fix it, guaranteed, or your money back. Save up to 40% your first year. Visit lifelock.com podcast for 40% off terms apply. The impact of this lightning strike forces her son Dionysus to be born prematurely. Zeus then rescues this premature Dionysus by sewing him into his thigh. When it comes time for Dionysus to be born again, like twice born, Zeus knows that he has to hide this child because Hera. Hera's gonna freak out if, like, what you keeping the child is that this is. This is not happening. So he asks the messenger God Hermes, to take Dionysus into the forest where he is instead going to be raised by a half goat known as Pan. Here we are, Pan in the forest. So to be clear, Pan, this half goat, becomes the foster parent to Dionysus. I'm going to show you the family chart because this is very relevant. Okay, so you've got Cybele up there, right? The demon of Anatolia. She mothers the child with Zeus. She's now in the underworld, right? You've got Dionysus on the other side. Cybele and King Gordias are going to have Midas. Okay, the interesting thing about Pan, this half goat, some people interpret him as Satan, is he's a bit of a lush. He's always drunk in the forest because when he is in a drunken stupor, he's able to tell prophecies. So Pan is the God of shepherds flock and drunken revelry. Pan does as he is asked. He raises, he fosters Dionysus. And Dionysus then grows to be this very beautiful, as they describe it, effeminate looking young boy who clearly adores Pan. Pan with the horns. One night, Pan is hitting the bottle a little too hard, right? And he is found in a drunken stupor by the now King Midas's men. They find this, like, half goat. They bring him back to Midas's palace. And of course, King Midas recognizes Pan because of his dad, King of Gordias. And he. And he resolves that he's going to keep Pan safe and comfortable in his palace. Now Dionysus is panicked because she can't find her foster father, and he, pardon, is panicked because he can't find his foster father. And then he's completely relieved when he discovers that he's with King Midas, which. That's actually his half brother, right? Cybele is both the mother of King Midas and also the mother of Dionysus. This pretty boy so happy is Dionysus, who is half God, because Zeus is a real father, that he says, I'll do anything you want, Midas. I'll give you anything you want as a reward, a gift for taking care of my foster father, Pan. Your wish is my command. And King Midas is greedy. He's very greedy. He says, oh, I would like the Midas touch. I. Everything I touch. I would like to turn to gold. And the Midas touch is granted. Now, of course, that touch turned out to be a bit of a curse. He. Midas goes on to accidentally turn his daughter into gold when he tries to console her. And then he realizes, oh, okay, maybe I shouldn't have asked for this. So he goes back and he starts pleading with his. This half sibling. And he's like, look, bro, I really need you to kind of get rid of this thing. I know I loved gold so much, but I didn't really think through my request. Please, just let me get rid of this. Dionysus eventually obliges, and he tells Midas to go wash his hands in the river Pactolus, and the gold will instead be transferred there. Now, just popping into ancient life, in case you didn't know this Pactolis, that river, ironically, that is where an absurd amount of gold and silver was found beneath that river. In fact, that river became the source, and this is important, of the very first gold coins that were used in the ancient world. Banking begins right here, guys. Banking. I can't make it up, I promise. Look it up. Begins right here in Turkey. Now, back to our family. Dionysus. Like I said, he's now a young adult half God. He wants his mom back. He just really wants Sibley back. Sibly is in the underworld. So he resolves. I'm going to journey, do what I have to take. Go into the underworld. I'm going to retrieve her. And that journey is not without its obstacles. Obviously, he has to enter into the realm of the dead sacrifice a lot to bring his mom back. This is again why Dionysus and Cybele are associated with this idea of a rebirth. Now back from the underworld, Dionysus becomes the consort to mommy Cybele, and it gets a little complicated. The story goes that his mom, Cybele, falls in love with him and his foster or forest foster parents, people, the nymphs in the forest, they didn't really like that. It's like, whoa, Mom. He's like a young boy. Adult, young. What are we doing here? Falling in love. This is weird. So they think it's weird, this creepy old castrated mommy macking on their. Her beautiful son. And they had other plans for him. They take him away. They want him to marry someone else. But the love that this priestess, high priestess Cybele, felt for that boy, her son, it was too strong. Man, this is really starting to sound a bit familiar. This is the most Amien story ever. Long story short, Dionysus and Addis live happily ever after. Dionysus and Cybele live happy ever after after she drives him mad and he castrates himself as well. It's a lot of castration happening in the story. You should know that out of this, this is. Should not shock you at all. Cults were formed. Cults were formed. These cults are known as the cult of Cybele or the cult of Dionysus and Addis. You need to look this up. The people that follow this cult are known as the Gali. And to become a high priestess in the cult of Dionysus, you have to castrate yourself. That's not me saying this. I'm not making this up. I just looked into this statue. Here it is. You can read it on the English Heritage site. Tells you about the Gali breaking Roman gender norms. A little piece of LGBTQ plus history, I bet. The Gali were priests in the cult of the goddess Sibily. They may have been devoted specifically to her consort, Addis. That's Dionysus, who had castrated himself in a fit of divine frenzy. And on initiation to the cult, the Galli also castrated themselves. And afterwards they dress exclusively in women's clothing. They therefore occupied an ambiguous space in Roman notions of gender that many modern transgendered and non binary people have identified with. I bet. Castrating yourself and then only dressing in female clothes, I kid you not. This is apparently the God of Amien. To initiate yourself into this cult. How it works is there has to be this night of revelry. This night, of course, where you're trying to summon Pan. A night where people wear horns, they make these tributes to Pan and they practice what is known as like orgiastic rituals, basically sex, magic. Lines are crossed. You can look this up. I have been tracing this through the centuries and realizing this cult never really went out of fashion. Lines are crossed. There's pedophilia, there's incest. It's all encouraged in these nights of revelry. And you should also know that theater is a component of this cult. Dionysus is the Greek God of theater. That is actually where Western theater stems from. So when we look across the world and we see all these people in positions of power and we learn that Justin Trudeau was a drama instructor, Zelensky was an actor, Emmanuel Macron was an actor being instructed by Brigitte. It of course, makes you ask yourself the reasonable question. Did this cult really survive through the ages? And it did. I told you, I traced it. The cult has its features. Every time there's Pan, there's a young boy, you know, the goat worship. There's always a young boy that he is raising. And then there's always the Midas in every story. I was therefore not actually surprised to learn that a statue giving a tribute to Pan was also found in the Medici family villa. The Medicis would have been the Midas's of their time in Florence in 1787. Look at this statue. So much of what we need to get into is the theology that is obviously the half goat. And this statue meant a lot to the Medici family. They actually transferred it to their villa in Florence. And it is, yeah, Pan tutoring one of his many aero menos, which is just like young boys, essentially. I don't know, guys. All I'm saying is that it's interesting that we're discussing this whole becoming Brigitte thing and Brigitte decides to put on this Dionysian festival or the Olympics where people a cross dressing and then we just find out that this is the quote unquote God of her and Emanuel's hometown. It's just weird. Okay? It was also weird that at Brigitte's wedding to Emmanuel, they chose this very strange cake topper with horns from Xavier Prussard's book Becoming Brigitte. He writes this quote regarding that strange wedding. And I think. Do you have that up? Everything there is strange, from the sleeveless and particularly short dress that's worn by Brigitte to Emmanuel Macron's pink tie knot, not to mention the cake topper possibly evoking the horns of Baphomet. Strangely, he continues, this wedding did not appear in the local weekly Les Echo du Coutette, due to 2K for October 20, 2007. The only event event mentioned at the town hall is a christening. End quote. So, yeah, it's a weird wedding. And they couldn't find that. This wedding was reported on in the local press and no explanation for that cake topper. On a further fashion Note, back in 1972, the Rothschild family had this infamous party, a surrealist ball where guests were required to wear costumes. And it was hosted by Baroness Helene de Rothschild. And I have to say, I wouldn't wear this. Like, I wouldn't wear that. That she's wearing there. Really makes you wonder. But you're not allowed to wonder, by the way people, even if you ask. AI says any questions about what she's wearing at night is deeply anti Semitic. I mention all of this to you because as we're pulling together the pieces of the Epstein story and we're talking about Sigmund Frederick Freud and forgetting about Emmanuel Macron, you start to see these themes. Theology is very, very relevant. Might be time for all of us to pick up an old Bible, not a new one. Changing things around already. It's pretty clear in the Bible that the Ashkenaz are the Turks and they are not Semitic. They cannot be Semitic because they are of the lineage of Jaffet and Gomer. You got to learn about Gog of Magog, the prophesied war against God's people. And to understand that, to accomplish that, this element of theater that we are seeing, theater and infiltration. Theater and infiltration. It is so important or very important to the Dionysian cult. So learn more about Dionysus and I think you will be provided a lot more clarity about what it is that we are facing. 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For our JMT lookalike prisoner 2093 he instead has this entry that reads Warren on further assignments. It is true, we looked it up first particularly is a naval shorthand term that means further assignment which means that there is a person that is in flux. And the abbreviation is used when a sailor is being transferred to a new command but their specific duties have not yet been designated. So now the bigger question is what is Warren? We got first on further assignment but what does Warren mean? Is that a place? Is that a person? Send me what your ideas are. You guys are much smarter than me. I literally feel like I am just getting a rapid fire education in all things military at this moment and I'm starting on a basis of knowing nothing, especially about the Navy. So we'll see what you guys come up with. Something that I had wanted to mention to you guys yesterday but we were kind of running out of time was that Stanford University campus On top of everything that's happening in 1967 they became one of the only places there were only about 10 across the US that began sex change operations. Transgendered surgeries. I kid you not guys, I'm going to show you because you're not going to believe me. Sounds a lot of times like I'm making this stuff up, but I'm not. This was published in the Stanford newspaper and it exists in their archive from that time. This article particularly is from 1973. So that's actually two years after the Stanford prison experiment. Sex change surgery arranged as part of Med center project. It tells us that the patients learn how to set their hair and sit and walk like members of the opposite sex as part of a Stanford University Medical center sex change program. Quote, Rehabilitation is the main focus of the program, says program coordinator Pat Gandy. Surgery may or may not be a part of an individual's rehabilitative process. However, if we're going to do this surgery we want the individual to be able to fit the social norms, to fit into society as normal males or females. Since Stanford began. The article goes on to say since Stanford began performing sex change operations in 1967, some 500 candidates have approached the hospital, but only 10% actually underwent surgery, Gandhi said. And it goes under this new subheading only program. Stanford offers the only such program on the west coast and is among about 10 nationwide, he added. Potential candidates undergo extensive physical and mental testing and are evaluated by a team of doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists, and former patients, Gandhi said. He said the evaluators look for motivation and physical resemblance to the opposite sex. They must be physically capable of undergoing the surgery and must have no history of psychosis. Then it tells us that for the 10% who have surgery, it is not done for at least 12 months when we feel comfortable and the patient feels comfortable with the decision, gandhi said in an interview. People who would not be candidates may enjoy the role of opposite sex, but don't necessarily desire the surgical change. I mean, that's just. That is kind of just stunning. The only place in the whole west coast, if you wanted to get it done, Stanford University. At the exact time when our Jean Michel Trogno look alike Prisoner 2093, who we cannot identify, were desperate to identify him. And maybe you are. Maybe you're watching this and you're like, you, it's me. I'm Thomas Williams. It was me the whole time. I look just like jmt. It's crazy. I'm not him. Trust me, bro. Reach out please email us tipsandace Owens.com by the way, that is something. Being the first to embark in sex change surgeries and transgender surgeries is something that Stanford to this day still brags about. You can check out this headline. You know, it's a part of LGBTQ Aware awareness, New historical collection on gender affirming care at Stanford. They're like, we did this first. Amazing. Absolutely amazing. In celebration of Pride Month. They're like, we are just showcasing everything that we did to be the first people that took care of trans people. You have to wonder, as we all watch the world go trans mad, are we being indoctrinated you guys into somebody else's theology? Are we being indoctrinated into somebody else's faith? We talked about this, this combination of the male and the female. The more you learn about Cybele, the more you learn about Addis and or Dionysus. They try to pretend these people were not the same. Absolutely. They are the same. You really start to Understand what is happening in this world. So I mean, thanks for the tidbit. Amien also received. We received tons of emails regarding George Pompidou. We told you that was the Prime Minister who became the President of France after this color revolution was staged to overthrow Charles de Gaul who was much more like no, we're not doing this thing. We're not moving away from gold. This is not, this is not a good idea for us. Just join the global fiat system. Well, this is one of many comments that we received. I'm reading this particular one from YouTube. This person writes Candace important nota bene here. George Pompidou was the Director General of the Rothschild bank in Paris before becoming Prime Minister and later the President of France, working under the leadership of Guy de Rothschild. Pompidou joined the bank in 1955 and quickly rose to a management position working there until 1962. Thanks for your work. He is correct. I fact checked that it is true that George Pompa to very similar story to Emmanuel Macron. I mean it's almost the same thing. Just like a hand on him, a Midas touch upon him gets pulled to the ranks and becomes the President after they had to get rid of De Gaulle. And yeah, then France came and picked up their goal in this, in this mysterious fleet of naval fleet. Apparently air force was involved. We don't, we don't know, we don't really know how that happened, what route the gold take. Lastly, a lot of French people, all French speaking people, I should say all over the world, Canadian French people and France French people wrote to us to explain the unusual, overly wordy and philosophical, unnecessarily philosophical MANNER that Prisoner 2093 speaks in the transcript of his exit interview, speaking about his identity, the self. It was very confusing. And I said that's not. That ain't American. We don't speak like that. Okay, you can learn the language. But there's something that goes beyond the language which is is this regular? And the answer is no. That speech was incredibly irregular. It was incredibly confusing. Well, guess what? The audio on that actually does exist. There's no visual, but there is an audio that was up on the Stanford website. I don't know how I had missed it. Once again, as we play this audio, I want you to pay close attention to the struggle that this person has with Rs. This is very clear to me that this is not a native English speaker. I would state almost unequivocally that this is not a native, native English speaker. Unfortunately, because he's discussing his role. Role. We're going to keep hearing him try to pronounce these Rs. Take a listen.