Candace Owens Podcast — Ep. 242 Summary
Title: BREAKING NEWS: FBI Pressuring Utah To Close The Charlie Kirk Case
Date: September 24, 2025
Solo Host: Candace Owens
Overview
In this solo episode, Candace Owens offers an unfiltered update on the investigation into the assassination of Charlie Kirk, alleging active FBI pressure on Utah officials to close the case as a lone gunman scenario. She also opens up about a personal sense of foreboding prior to Kirk’s death, connects it with broader themes of government secrecy, lone actor violence, and spiritual warfare, and shares exclusive information about the Trump assassination attempt. The episode shifts between breaking news, personal anecdotes, spiritual reflections, and commentary on censorship and societal trends.
Main Topics & Key Points
1. The FBI and the Charlie Kirk Assassination Case
[00:00–16:00]
- FBI Pressure on Utah: Candace alleges, via a high-level source, that the FBI is insisting Utah authorities declare the Kirk case closed, criminalizing it as the act of a lone gunman, Tyler Robinson, despite a lack of hard evidence.
- “The FBI is putting an absurd amount of pressure right now on the authorities in Utah... to come out and to say that the Charlie Kirk case is closed.” — Candace [01:40]
- Critique of Official Narrative: No video evidence shows Robinson firing or aiming the weapon. The only eyewitness claims the shooter wore tactical gear (not matching Robinson’s outfit), and the gun/bullet don’t match Robinson’s rifle. Other fingerprints are on the weapon.
- “Nothing is making sense at all. It has not made sense from the very beginning, okay? And that's because the feds are involved.” — Candace [06:18]
- “The only thing that I have heard that made sense…was that Tyler was just told to walk and drop off his gun at a neighboring house.” — Candace [12:47]
- Skepticism Toward the Prosecution: Candace is sharply critical of what she calls “moral blackmail,” the FBI’s argument that not closing the case could interfere with prosecuting Robinson.
- “That feels a little bit to me like moral blackmail.” — Candace [02:48]
2. Intuition, Spiritual Warnings, & The "Beehive"
[16:00–28:00]
- Premonition Before Kirk’s Death: Ten days prior, Candace felt a “sense of doom,” corroborated by private messages and her insistence on pulling her children from school, hiring security, and warning others to do the same.
- “I sensed that the danger wasn't stopping there and that more was coming… there's imminent danger coming. Okay. It is relating to a school. I think it's a communist underground, and I don't know why, but it has something to do with bees.” — Candace [20:17]
- Bee Symbolism: She notices “encoded” online discussions referencing bees and links this to the Utah state flag’s beehive symbol, invoking historical Mormon communalism and associating it with Soviet collectivist roots.
- “It's this, it's a Soviet symbol, like the idea of making everybody into a worker bee.” — Candace [25:12]
- Critique of Public Education: Cites Thomas Sowell’s work to claim that the US public school system is influenced by Soviet ideology and is used for ideological and behavioral programming.
3. The Thomas Matthew Crooks/Trump Assassination Attempt Parallels
[28:00–33:00]
- Fresh Evidence on Crooks: Candace presents an 80-page document (soon to be released) of Crooks’ violent online history — initially a Trump supporter, he later turns radical, exhibiting warning signs allegedly ignored by authorities.
- “There is no way this person was not on the federal radar.” — Candace [31:24]
- Red Flags & Federal Awareness: Online searches by Crooks include mass shootings, bombings, and explicit calls for violence, but the FBI and the media quickly buried the story and blamed Iran without substantial evidence.
- “You want me to believe, on the basis of what I have seen, that this individual wasn't on federal radar? That is a nonsense, okay?” — Candace [33:19]
- Pattern of Lone Gunman Narratives: Draws a connection between multiple “lone wolf” attacks and the government’s role in both enabling and covering up multi-individual conspiracies.
- “I think that this is a program. I do. I don't know know. But I know. You know?” — Candace [35:13]
- References historical parallels (e.g., JFK, MK Ultra era).
4. Spiritual Warfare and the "Curse" on Charlie Kirk
[33:53–36:10]
- Discussion of Megyn Kelly’s Revelation: Jezebel, a left-wing site, placed a “hex” on Kirk via Etsy, which Candace links to real spiritual danger despite Jezebel’s “tongue in cheek” tone.
- "They contacted witches who are not trying to be funny. That’s the problem when people don’t understand this stuff is real.” — Candace [36:08]
- Candace’s Spiritual Perspective: Warns listeners about underestimating occult and spiritual forces in politics and the broader culture, characterizing the fight as a spiritual war.
- “They very much know what religion they follow, the numbers, numerology, it makes sense to them, the people that are in control of this world. And you should just be very cautious, very cautious of that stuff.” — Candace [36:21]
5. Commentary on Free Speech and the Kimmel Shout-Out
[30:49–32:13]
- Jimmy Kimmel’s Monologue: Kimmel thanks Candace and other conservatives for defending his free speech after his cancellation; Candace agrees with the principle despite their ideological differences.
- “Some of the things they say even make me want to throw up. It takes courage for them to speak out against this administration, and they did. And they deserve credit for it.” — Jimmy Kimmel [31:26]
6. Listener Q&A, Reflections, & Book Club
[53:00–End]
- Community Interaction: Candace addresses questions about religious divisions, grief, criticism of Erica Kirk, the beehive/bee symbol, overlooked video evidence, and resources on education reform.
- “I think we just need to be a lot more gracious. It's an unimaginable thing to go through ... we have no idea how we would react.” — Candace, on grief [1:03:10]
- “Inside the American education system…does a really good job of illustrating what's been happening and why...” — Candace, resource recommendation [1:06:20]
- Personal Stories: Recounts her own rapid engagement and marriage, counters conspiracy theories about her private life, and thanks listeners for their support during grief.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 01:40 | Candace | "The FBI is putting an absurd amount of pressure right now on the authorities in Utah... to come out and to say that the Charlie Kirk case is closed." | | 06:18 | Candace | "Nothing is making sense at all. It has not made sense from the very beginning, okay? And that's because the feds are involved." | | 20:17 | Candace | "In a sentence said there's imminent danger coming. Okay. It is relating to a school. I think it's a communist underground, and I don't know why, but it has something to do with bees." | | 25:12 | Candace | "It's this, it's a Soviet symbol, like the idea of making everybody into a worker bee." | | 31:24 | Candace | "There is no way this person was not on the federal radar." (On Thomas Crooks) | | 33:19 | Candace | "You want me to believe, on the basis of what I have seen, that this individual wasn't on federal radar? That is a nonsense, okay?" | | 35:13 | Candace | "I think that this is a program. I do. I don't know know. But I know. You know?" | | 36:08 | Candace | "They contacted witches who are not trying to be funny. That’s the problem when people don’t understand this stuff is real.” | | 31:26 | Jimmy Kimmel | "Some of the things they say even make me want to throw up. It takes courage for them to speak out against this administration, and they did. And they deserve credit for it." | | 1:03:10 | Candace | "I think we just need to be a lot more gracious...we have no idea how we would react." | | 1:06:20 | Candace | “Inside the American education system…does a really good job of illustrating what's been happening and why...” |
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [00:00] – FBI pressure on Utah in the Kirk investigation
- [10:00] – Problems with the Tyler Robinson prosecution
- [16:00] – Candace’s “sense of doom”: intuition, bee/Utah symbolism
- [28:00] – Thomas Matthew Crooks background
- [33:53] – Megyn Kelly’s revelation about the Jezebel “curse”/hex on Charlie Kirk
- [36:00] – Spiritual warfare and symbolism in politics
- [30:49] – Jimmy Kimmel acknowledges Candace and others for supporting free speech principles
- [53:00-end] – Listener Q&A, book recommendations, community feedback
Tone & Style
- Candid, assertive, and conspiratorial: Candace blends personal vulnerability with investigative skepticism and ideological critique.
- Mix of investigative journalism and personal testimonial
- Explicit rejection of official narratives and mainstream explanations
- Strong undercurrent of suspicion toward both government institutions and mainstream media
Closing Thoughts
This episode serves as both an exposé and a personal reflection, connecting current and historical “lone gunman” events, warning about government overreach, and invoking spiritual dangers that she asserts are present both in politics and daily life. Candace positions herself as a defiant counter-narrative voice, pledging to pursue truth in the Kirk case, and invites her audience to join her in both skepticism and faith.