Podcast Summary: "Candace x Baron Coleman LIVE!!" | Candace Ep 293

Date: January 21, 2026
Host: Candace Owens
Guest: Baron Coleman

Overview

In this high-voltage, freewheeling episode, Candace Owens and Baron Coleman team up for nearly 90 minutes of intense, unfiltered discussion centering on the ongoing fallout from the Charlie Kirk assassination. They deep-dive into new revelations, explore possible conspiracies, analyze the power dynamics at Turning Point USA, and dissect the interconnectedness of major figures and institutions. The conversation touches upon leaks, internal purges, suspicious patterns around mass shootings, military corruption, child trafficking, and the machinations of the conservative and Zionist establishments. The tone is impassioned, skeptical, and sometimes darkly humorous, with both hosts candidly expressing frustration at misinformation, cover-ups, and personal attacks.

Key Discussion Points

1. Turning Point USA Purge and Internal Dynamics

(00:56–07:13)

• Candace reports a major staff purge at TPUSA:

  • 30–40 employees fired in search for organizational leaks related to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
  • “Rather than try to be an honest organization, it's just let's get rid of all the people we think might be disclosing that we're a dishonest organization.” – Candace (01:14)
  • Story of a female employee wrongly accused due to screenshots on her laptop—mass panic ensued.

• Management and Central Players:

  • Baron argues the firings show TPUSA was overstaffed and poorly managed.
  • Erica (Kirk) seen as the decision-maker, with Tyler Boyer and Andrew Colvett in key advisory roles. Baron questions their judgment and motivations.

2. Deep Suspicion Surrounding Charlie Kirk's Assassination

(04:42–08:09; 24:30–26:06; 45:49–49:20; 51:26–63:39)

• Alleged Cover-up:

  • Persistent belief that Turning Point’s internal response was suspicious.
  • Dan Flood, a security figure, possibly promoted instead of dismissed after the assassination—a “protected person.”
  • Military connections: Fort Huachuca repeatedly recurs as a hub for key characters.

• Institutional gaslighting:

  • Candace remains sure that the official story, especially surrounding security and Kirk’s warnings before his death, does not add up.
  • “There's just more than meets the eye with Erica, full stop… I'm uncomfortable with the amount of inconsistencies that have presented themselves in her story.” – Candace (07:29)
  • Allegation: Kirk had considered demoting Dan Flood and warned of danger; new leadership did nothing.

3. The "Mass Shooting Coincidence Satellite" and Military Ties

(08:11–17:35)

• Erica Kirk’s odd connection to the 2012 Aurora theater shooting:

  • As Miss Arizona USA, she tweeted about a close friend in the theater during the shooting (09:00).
  • Candace expresses discomfort with persistent “tragic coincidences” among conservative circles–notably, figures like Rob McCoy being present or intimately linked to past mass shootings.

• Victim Profiles:

  • The case of Jessica Ghawi (“Gowie”)—present at two separate mass shootings within weeks in different cities, including Aurora, CO and Toronto.
  • New Braunfels, TX, and military ties keep recurring in the backgrounds of victims and key players.

• Underlying Hypothesis:

  • Candace speculates on a broader conspiracy: “What if there are just targets in the military just going in and killing people and then blaming it on some tranny... or a die hard MAGA guy... and we're so at each other's throats that we're missing broader [themes].” (10:36)

4. Militarization, Mind Control, and Psychological Operations

(17:35–24:30)

• Institutional Rot:

  • The concept that “good guys” at low levels are distinct from those in military high command, where “satanic, anti-American” agendas dominate.

• Historical testimony:

  • Candace plays a clip from Kathryn Pollard Griggs exposing military intelligence as a “mind-control operation” run by “sexual deviants… easy to control… become mind slaves.” (21:46)

• Pattern recognition:

  • Candace: “It is very obvious to me that these sorts of people are being sought out. Like, how far will you go? How deranged are you? Are you willing to harm a child? And if so, then you sort of pledge yourself into the cult.”

5. Child Trafficking, Military, and the Shadow State

(24:30–26:06; 38:44–40:47)

• Recurring theme:
  • While probing the Kirk case, Candace keeps hitting the “child sex trafficking” thread in proximity to power players.
  • Questions what Netanyahu/Israel’s “offer” to Kirk/TPUSA was really about—implying possible compromise, corruption, or illicit quid pro quo.

6. Conservative Media and Zionist Pressure

(30:16–43:44)

• Feuds and Loyalty Tests:

  • Dave Rubin accused Candace online of “ranting against Kirk” at his home—Candace retorts, revealing unflattering details about Rubin’s behavior and motivations.
  • “You could disagree on tax cuts… but you cannot disagree on the Israel issue… or you are cast aside and lied about.” – Baron (32:22)
  • Reveals Rubin (allegedly) tried grooming a young male employee, which Candace cites as why their friendship ended.

• Zionist establishment:

  • Candace and Baron allege coordinated efforts from figures at PragerU, Daily Wire, and the broader Zionist media ecosystem to silence or ostracize nonconformists like Candace.
  • Discussion of Trump’s foreign policy “flip,” pressure from globalist/Zionist donors, and support from former “Never Trumpers”.

7. Disillusionment with American Institutions & False Dialectic

(44:18–49:20)

• Left vs. Right is a Distraction:

  • Candace: “If you are still having those arguments… you’ve not yet seen the big picture, and I refuse to play a part of it.” (44:18)
  • Both reject the “false dialectic” of left vs. right—believe the real struggle is between “good” and “evil”/corrupted power versus the people.

• Religious and Ethical Crisis:

  • Baron sets a new voting standard: “Give me a Christian who pledges to place America’s priorities first or I’m not voting for you.” (45:16)

8. Key Anomalies in Kirk Case Post-Assassination

(51:26–63:39)

• Timeline & Alibis:

  • Scrutiny over flights, alibis, and hospital arrivals immediately after Kirk’s death.
  • Discrepancies in stories told by Erica Kirk, Andrew Colvett, and others—Candace highlights conflicts between public statements and her private conversations.

• Succession Narrative:

  • Candace deeply questions the official claim Charlie wanted Erica to succeed him as TPUSA head—says this contradicts Kirk’s character and public stance on women with small children working outside the home.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• (01:14) Candace: “Rather than try to be an honest organization, it's just let's get rid of all the people we think might be disclosing that we're a dishonest organization.”

• (09:00) Candace: “[Erica] says, ‘one of my best friends was in the [Aurora] theater.’ So Erica has a personal attachment via her friend who was in this theater at the time of another shooting. And I'm uncomfortable…”

• (10:36) Candace: “What if there are just targets in the military just going in and killing people and then blaming it on… a transgendered person or… [a] die hard MAGA guy…?”

• (21:44) Kathryn Pollard Griggs (played clip): “…the United States military is literally run by sexual deviant, heavy on the homosexual side…. they actually become mind slaves. And the US military, literally, as outrageous as it sounds, is a mind control operation.”

• (32:22) Baron: “You could… disagree on a lot of foreign policy, but you cannot disagree on the Israel issue. You just cannot.”

• (45:16) Baron: “You give me a Christian who pledges to place America's priorities first. You don’t give me both of those, I’m not voting for you.”

• (51:26) Candace: “When they had Amfest and Erica came out, they played audio of Charlie saying that he wanted Erica to take over for him. And I was curious about that… If you have the audio, shouldn’t you have the video?... I do not like the fact that we are being told that we have to believe [the official story].”

• (62:33) Candace: “She waited to go to the hospital… Like, why wait an hour on the tarmac? And then… they went into different entries into the hospital. Erica went through the back and Andrew went through the front. So there's a lot there that doesn't make sense to me.”

Memorable Moments & Running Jokes

• Joe "Crash Out" Segment
  (76:11–79:58)
  Baron’s fiery response to a critical viewer named “Joe,” which has become an inside joke: “You can learn to not be like you are, Joe.”

• “Doge Effort” & Cease and Desist Letters
  Satirical references to organizational mismanagement and petty legal threats.

• Reference to “the club”
  Allusion to George Carlin's “big club, and you’re not in it”—used to summarize why the outsider perspective will never fully grasp the elite machinations.

Important Timestamps

• TPUSA Purge/Leak: 00:56–03:09
• Fort Huachuca/Military Connections: 04:42–17:35
• Kathryn Griggs Clip: 19:43–22:34
• Zionist Influence & Dave Rubin Segment: 30:16–43:44
• Institutional Crisis/Religious Commentary: 44:18–49:20
• Succession & Aspen Donor Event: 51:26–57:43
• Flight Timeline & Hospital Arrival After Assassination: 62:33–71:09
• Baron’s “Joe Crash Out”: 76:11–79:58

Conclusion and Call to Action

Candace and Baron end by inviting listeners to continue submitting leads and tips, with Candace encouraging support of their non-corporate, independent work (“We're not being funded by Zionists, obviously. We're just being attacked by them.” – 82:58). The episode strikes a balance between dark suspicion, investigative rigor, and gallows humor, ultimately framing the struggle as “a spiritual war of good versus evil.”

Find Baron Coleman:
YouTube: Real Baron Podcast (with one R)

Email tips to:
moretips@candaceowens.com

“We are in a spiritual war of good versus evil. Everything done in the dark will be brought to light.”
– Listener Comment, echoed by Candace (81:11)

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