Podcast Summary: "Charlie's Angels Or Demons? Disturbing Footage Emerges."

Podcast: Candace
Host: Candace Owens
Episode: 252
Date: October 27, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

In this episode, Candace Owens delivers an unfiltered and personal monologue in response to the ongoing controversy and suspicion following the assassination of her close friend and Turning Point USA founder, Charlie Kirk. She challenges the official story, scrutinizes the behavior of key figures immediately after the shooting, and dissects newly surfaced videos and private messages. The episode serves as both a memorial and a public call for transparency and justice, as Candace asserts her commitment to truth and accountability within the movement and for her late friend.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Candace’s State of Mind & Reflections on Charlie’s Death

• Candace recounts her trip to Wyoming to mourn and reflect, highlighting her close personal relationship with Charlie Kirk and expressing difficulty with accepting his sudden, public execution.
• She notes the contrast between her extended grief and others’ rapid acceptance of Charlie’s death, raising suspicions about those around him.

"I've now, I think, officially accepted that Charlie Kirk is not coming back. And somehow it took me longer to get there than it did many others." (00:20)

2. Casting Suspicion: The "Official Narrative" and Succession Plan

• Candace is deeply skeptical of the "lone shooter" narrative, likening it to old government stories ("1963 called, and they want their narrative back…All that's missing from the story is a grassy knoll." (05:48)).
• She is disturbed by how quickly Turning Point USA leaders moved into “business as usual” and implemented a “succession plan,” with Pastor Rob McCoy referencing Charlie's alleged plan just four days after the murder.

"The people who didn't even know Charlie all around the world seem to be fighting harder for him, fighting harder for truth." (07:37)

[07:11] Pastor Rob McCoy:

"Everyone's worried about the leadership of TPUSA. Don't. He was wise enough at 31 to put together a plan for succession."

3. The Mikey McCoy Video Analysis: Instantaneous Reaction Under Scrutiny

• Candace describes and breaks down viral footage of Mikey McCoy (Charlie’s chief of staff) at the moment of the shooting.
  • McCoy is seen putting a phone to his ear 834 milliseconds after the shot—impossibly fast unless he was already on a call.
  • Candace and her team analyze the footage frame by frame, unable to rationalize the reaction except by assuming McCoy was already pre-connected to a call.

"We decided to slow this clip down... it is exactly 834 milliseconds from the time you hear the shot... that's how long it takes for Mikey McCoy to put the phone to his ear. Now, why is that precise timing so important? Because there's no dialing. Mikey didn't have time to dial." (11:04)

• Questions remain: Who was McCoy speaking to? Why no openness about his call logs?

4. Behavior of Other Key Staff & Ominous Selfie Video

• Candace relays an unsettling video (obtained directly from the event’s AV/camera staffer), showing him, immediately after the shooting, calmly walking away, filming himself, and prematurely announcing Charlie's death.
  • The crew member does not run to help, nor far away (as in panic), but instead records his own reaction—a response Candace finds deeply odd and suspicious.

"So let’s watch that video. They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. God help her. That’s the first time it was announced… Charlie Kirk was dead. Kind of weird." (31:25)

• Candace notes that this same AV staffer was brought in by Tyler Boyer and had not previously been stationed so close during events.

5. Opaque & Contradictory Internal TPUSA Communications

• Candace recounts her efforts to obtain unreleased footage from the camera operator, who gives a series of inconsistent excuses—from legalities and trauma concerns, to technical inability, to fear of “Google hacking” the file—leading Candace to further distrust.

"He told me…he didn't want to just send the footage over the Internet that's behind Charlie's head because…Google might hack me. I swear on everything I love. That’s what he told me." (25:07)

• The AV guy claims that “ops” back in Arizona were remotely live-cutting the event (allegedly a new protocol), another convenient anomaly, according to Candace.

6. A Call to ‘War’ and Demand for Truth

• Candace delivers a pointed, emotional challenge to everyone involved, explicitly positioning herself as the combative voice for Charlie’s memory, and calling for others’ secrets to come forth.

"Allow me to be very explicit, okay? I want war with all of you. Okay? All of you. And there's a reason…But I want war with all of you because I know. I know this isn't right." (34:40)

• She denounces the “succession plan” and insists that the real events of September 10 must come out before the “business as usual” can resume.

7. Charlie’s Prophetic Messages

• Candace shares private texts from Charlie Kirk (April 2018), conveying his fears that Turning Point and his activism would “be the death of him,” and that Candace would carry on his fight.
  • She characterizes these as almost prophetic, reinforcing her belief in foul play and betrayal.

"Charlie wrote to me, ‘You're going to be the Iron lady of America. I might not see this whole thing through. Lmao, if that's the case, be my David… Since the beginning of TPUSA, I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time. I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time.’" (38:21)

8. Spiritual Framing & Final Warnings

• Candace positions the situation as a spiritual battle of good versus evil, explicitly encouraging those with knowledge to “come clean” and warning of becoming “infamous through the ages” should they persist in silence or deception.

"Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom…There are lines in the sand that are being drawn right now between good and evil. Many of you have picked the evil side. To you, podcasters, people that make videos… stop doing that." (44:01)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the rapid “succession planning”:
  "It's kind of giving me, like, I don't know, LBJ when he gets sworn in in that famous picture... I don't think LBJ was actually that upset. I don't know why. Vibes. The vibes just aren't vibing for me in that picture." (06:24)

• On transparency:
  "If that was me... I would instantly hit back. I'd say, here's my call log. You wanna know who I was on the phone with? 9-1-1, obviously… I would have issued a statement to dispel any rumors, but they have not." (13:45)

• On the AV guy's excuses:
  "You run an entire AV company, and you don't know how to send footage? That didn't smell right to me." (26:01)

• On fighting for justice:
  "There is no way you are going to convince me and the rest of the world that all of this is normal. We're not just gonna keep on going and jump into a succession plan. We're gonna figure out what the hell happened on September 10th first." (35:47)

• On foreknowledge and fate:
  "Charlie knew that I was gonna be the person that had the spine to stand up for him. What he didn't know, I don't think he knew, was that millions of people around the world who maybe don't have a microphone… are standing by him, are standing on the side of goodness." (47:32)

Key Timestamps

Opening Monologue & Context

• [00:00] – Grief, reflections in Wyoming, Charlie’s last days and their friendship
• [05:48] – Critique of official “lone shooter” narrative, succession plan talk starts

Succession Plan Discussion

• [07:11] – Pastor Rob McCoy: “He was wise enough… to put together a plan for succession.”

The Viral Footage Breakdown

• [11:04] – Analysis of Mikey McCoy’s phone reaction (0.834 sec)
• [13:45] – Candace on expected transparency (“show the call log”)
• [20:00–31:00] – Camera operator’s strange behavior and selfie video

Candace’s Challenge and Call for War

• [34:40] – “I want war with all of you… because I know this isn’t right.”

Charlie’s Prophetic Messages

• [38:21] – Candace shares April 2018 messages from Charlie ("I might get wiped out at any time…")

Spiritual Framing & Final Warning

• [44:01] – “There are lines in the sand that are being drawn… Many of you have picked the evil side.”

Listener Comments & Community Reflection

• [50:10+] – Candace reads audience comments, reflects on decentralization, spiritual war, and the resilience of truth

Tone & Style

Candace’s tone throughout is impassioned, personal, often biting, and unafraid to directly call out names and dissect details. She heavily leans into a distrustful, investigative mode, questioning every unusual move by key figures, deploying sarcasm, dark humor, and spiritual language to underscore her points. The style is informal yet relentless, functioning as both true crime commentary and movement polemic.

Conclusion

This episode documents Candace Owens’ crusade against what she sees as a cover-up involving the murder of her friend Charlie Kirk. She provides minute analysis of incriminating footage, casts suspicion on Turning Point USA’s internal leadership and staff, shares striking private messages from Charlie, and positions herself as a leader in a spiritual war for truth. The episode is a rallying cry for transparency and moral courage, inviting listeners to join in the steadfast pursuit of justice and reject official narratives that don’t hold up under scrutiny.