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So we decided to slow this clip down, and we're gonna watch this clip slow down so you can see that it is exactly 834 milliseconds from the time that you hear the shot. That is how long it takes for Mikey McCoy to put the phone to his ear. Now, why is that precise timing so important? Because there's no dialing. Mikey didn't have time to dial. Okay? You can't dial and put your phone to an ear in 0.834 seconds. The next time that you're gonna see Mike, Mikey McCoy, as we just showed you, is in just under two and a half seconds on the other side of the tent. He's on a phone call. So we can track Mikey, but let's watch the clip again in milliseconds so you really grasp how quickly this transpires. So when this clip was brought. There we go. We're tracking that. Yeah. When the clip was brought to my attention, I. I obviously have a file. I have a big folder of files of every angle. And I decided to track Mikey from every angle available to see, like, maybe we just missed it. And he did, at some point, put that phone down, dial a number, speed dial, hold down one. I don't know, maybe we missed it, because that seems. That seems automatic, right? 0.834. That seems pretty quick. And no, no, he doesn't do that. We even have him in front of Charlie's car. When Charlie's car is. When Charlie is brought to the car, the waiting car, rather, he is still on the phone. I can show you the clip of that. Take a look at this. Don't worry, we'll slow it down for you. See him in the background with the backpack? It's Mikey McCoy. Okay, so what are we to make of that? The only logical conclusion that I can come up with and many others, because I've pressed. I said, play devil's advocate. I want you to Advocate for Mikey McCoy. I want you to play lawyer. And you are representing your client, Mikey McCoy. What was he. How did he do it this quickly? No one could win this game. The only logical conclusion we come up with was that Mikey was already on a phone call at 12:23pm By 12:23pm he was already on a phone call. So I said, let's go back a little earlier in the footage and see if we can find when he actually maybe dials onto the phone. Maybe we can see him pick up the phone and begin a call before the shot takes off. And then after beating that call, if we're following this logic, that would mean he puts his phone down until Charlie gets shot. And we were able to find what we think could be that moment. And I can tell you that it is 1 minute and 45 seconds approximately before that Shot goes off. And we can watch that here. Seem like he's on his phone here, and you're gonna see he pulls it up and he starts to cover his ear again. Now, that could be unrelated. Again, we're taking a guess here. That's what made the most sense to us because we couldn't justify it in any other way. And I want to be clear, we're not here to make assumptions, okay? And we wouldn't have to make any assumptions if Turning Point USA could just tell the truth. They could just be open and they could be honest about everything. Okay? I obviously went out to both Mikey McCoy and Andrew Colvett for a statement, asked those two questions. Hey, who were you on the phone with? What's going on here? No response. Weird. Because if that was me and I saw clips going viral and people were drawing conclusions from that clip thinking that I was already on the phone, thinking that my reaction was weird, I would instantly hit back. I'd say, here's my. Here's my call log. You wanna know who I was on the phone with? 9, 1, 1. Obviously, I was freaking out. Freaking out. I called 911. I didn't know what I was doing. Here's my phone. Here's my whole call log for that day. This is. I don't know. I guess we live in a world where that doesn't make sense. I would have issued a statement to dispel any rumors, but they have not. Here's what I want to say, and I honestly, I understand. I'm preaching to the choir here. Everything about this is wrong. You know it and I know it. I actually know it better than most because I helped build that organization. And that's why I am almost the perfect person to discern what is normal and what is abnormal in terms of what happened at that college campus event. In fact, when I did my tribute to Charlie, this is unbelievable. Remember just after he died, I posted a video to my friend Charlie Kirk, and I shared a clip of him at a college event. And he and I were laughing, and I'm gonna show you that clip in a second. And I said, I don't even know which college this is when I showed the clip, because I didn't know what college it was. And unbelievably, it was uvu. I kid you not. Let's rewatch that clip. If you aren't wealthy, white, and male, Charlie Kirk is not your friend. What do you think you're not my friend anymore? Are we not friends? Is that right? This. I'm going to find out a sign outside of a thing, an event that we just did that you're not my friend. Go figure. As unbelievable that of all the clips, we picked that. And I had no idea it was uvu. The point is that I hit college campuses with Charlie Kirk for six years. I don't believe that there was a single living, breathing person who has spoken at more college campuses alongside Charlie Kirk than me. So I knew that things were weird when I saw the first and foremost, the camera guy, the one who takes down the camera. Seeing him lingering alongside Charlie at the event flagged me as weird immediately. Okay, That's. That's why I reached out when people saw him taking down the camera. I said, what is this? Why are you here? Literally, why are you standing next to. I've never at any college event ever in six years had that man standing next to me at an event. Okay? Sometimes he wasn't even there. Other times, of course, when you are in av, your job is to be somewhere quiet. Your job is to have on, like, headphones to make sure the audio is good. Maybe the idea that they're micing the person running a company is micing you up is completely absurd. I didn't, like, felt new to me. You know what? When I called him, things got pretty weird. He acknowledged that a lot of new stuff was happening on that day. And I inquired to him immediately about these subtle changes that I recognized. And the thing that struck me as wrong was that he lied to me. I don't know why he was lying to me, but a lot of the things that he said didn't make sense. And I'm going to speak more thoroughly about what it was that he said, because obviously I recorded the phone call. I of course, asked him why he took down the cameras so quickly. I asked him to first and foremost simply show me the footage because that's all I wanted to do. I'm thinking again, we're all going to get the band back together and solve this murder. And it got weird. It got really weird. I said, I just wanna, like, see the footage so I can debunk. I know that you don't wanna put more footage out there. That's fine. But, like, just show me the footage so I can debunk these. All these Internet conspiracies that you were hiding something. I was not suspicious of turning point at all, actually. When I called and I asked him again, like, what's the reason? What's the reason for taking down the cameras quickly? Why hasn't the footage been released. Let me see it. And he told me that a. He had spoken only to Erica and the feds that he had regarding the footage. That is, he specifically told me that, as I said earlier, that he had secured that footage because he wanted to prevent Erica, as I told you, from having to relive that moment. And that made entirely no sense to me. I told you guys, because we all can watch Charlie Kirk be murdered over and over and over and over and over again. So how are you sparing any emotions here? By taking down the back footage. And then it made even less sense to me and appeared to me as a lie once I saw the footage on FaceTime, when I realized that there was no blood on Charlie. So it was the. It was the least traumatizing footage of all. Why be so secretive about it? He then told me that he needed to speak with Turning Point lawyers first to see about releasing the footage. I said, okay, fine. I let him take a couple days off, and then we got back on the phone, and I said, look, that's kind of a BS excuse, too, because you run your own company and the footage is owned by you. He then said, okay, yeah, I do own the footage. I just wanted, you know, just coordinate, check, whatever. Okay. Kind of a lie number two. Ish. Then he said something that really bothered me. He said, I don't know how to send the footage. Like, the file was too large. Oh, Oh. I was born yesterday. So you run an entire AV company, and you don't know how to send footage? That didn't smell right to me. It got even more bizarre. He told me, and this is when I was extremely uncomfortable. He said, after I offered, you can just use. We transfer. He said, I don't want to just send the footage over the Internet that's behind Charlie's head because I'm worried that we. Google might hack me. I swear on everything I love. That's what he told me. He was afraid that Google was going to hack him. So at this moment, I got a little bit. I looked at my team, and I started snapping across the table, and I was like. I. I said to them, literally guilty of something. I don't know. This is weird. What a stupid lie. I mean, what do you mean? So I said to him, I said, let's just pretend that that does happen for reason. Sergey Brin is sitting around. He's going, I want to hack this person because I want to see footage behind Charlie's head. Does it? Whatever. And then he gives the footage to Fox News, cnn, and they Play it. And what happens after that? I said to him, oh, I know what happens after we all get to see Charlie Kirk die from a different angle. We've seen it die from a thousand different angles. Like what? What is actually changing if Google hac. Weird. A weird thing to say. I also asked him who he was on the phone with after Charlie got shot, and he told me, and I kid you not, he was on the phone with the ops that were back in Arizona watching. And I said, what ops? We don't have people back in Arizona watching when we do college campus events. Is that something new? He said, yes, it is new, in fact, which is the first time we were doing it. He said there were two people, two ops that were watching it back in Arizona. And he told me that the reason that they were doing it was because, you know, Candace. He said, charlie, he was so ambitious, and it wasn't fast enough that it was all being live streamed. He wanted people to live cut the clips so that they could be the first people to get it on the Internet. He didn't want to. He's like, not even a second to be wasted. So live streaming, everybody can watch. But they were racing some people to get the clips out faster than anybody else. Because Charlie's ambitious now, I got a little suspicious, and sensing he could sense that I was now growing increasingly suspicious with every random thing that he was saying, he sent me a video that I didn't ask for. I wanted to see the footage. He then sends me a video, and I guess this was supposed to work as some sort of an alibi. I don't know if he thought that I thought that he shot Charlie. I certainly did not think that he was involved in pulling a trigger and killing Charlie Kirk. I actually don't know why this video. I don't know what this video could have done that he sent me, other than to make me feel even more uncomfortable, because the video he sent me is quite shocking. It's also the reason that I knew that Tyler Boyer was lying when he tweeted that in. This guy was commanded by the police to take down the cameras. He's lying because I have every minute of what this guy was doing thanks to him having sent it to me. Okay? Every minute of what he was doing before he took those cameras down. And there are only four minutes, by the way, before he takes those cameras down. So he's next to. And he is in front of Mikey McCoy when Charlie gets shocked. Now, to his credit, he actually did see Charlie get shot. He saw in Like a split second, sees Charlie bleeding and runs and doesn't run very far. He just runs a couple of yards away. Now, I should mention that the camera guy, he too, was also brought into the company by Tyler Boyer. Okay. And if you have worked with Charlie for this long, over a decade, and you watch Charlie Kirk get shot, what do you do? What would you do? I'm asking you this question at home. What would you do? I say two things that were. Are pretty commonplace, right? You choose between fight or flight. You run towards him or you run away. And you run away far because you don't know what's happening. Is it one shot? Are there multiple people? Are you being pursued? There's no way to process that. If you are going to. To be in flight, you should be sprinting and maybe calling 911. That's what I would have done if I wanted to run away and not towards Charlie to make sure he's okay. But this second close friend of Charlie chose to run just a few yards away up to a grassy knoll to take out his phone. Couple of seconds later, he takes out his phone and he begins recording himself. It's a selfie video. Takes a video of himself. So let's watch that video. They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. God help her. That's the first time it was announced, actually, that Charlie Kirk was dead. Kind of weird. Go ahead, catch your breath. Hit rewind. Watch it again. Watch it over and over again like I did, because you're probably thinking out loud. What the f. Did I just watch? What's going on? What were Charlie's closest friends and allies and the people that were gonna carry on the torch doing? Oh, picking up phone calls that they were already on and filming themselves and prematurely announcing when not a single person could have known. Charlie Kirk is dead. Less than a minute. Declared dead. No instinct to run towards him. No instinct to run further away, maybe because you got to backtrack and go get the cameras. A minute after this ends is when he goes and gets the cameras. Okay. Rather let me record me and my reaction, which doesn't actually feel to me to be too distraught. Okay. In fact, if I. This is one of those videos that made me so upset that I was, like, mad at other people, you know, like I was, like, mad at Savannah. I saw Mikey McCoy's reaction. Now I'm looking at this guy's reaction. Like, Savannah, like one of the homies. I get assassinated. You film yourself. I get assassinated. You're talking about my succession Plan. A couple days later, I get assassinated. You're lying about little things about me. Everything Turning Point is doing is wrong. And you know it's wrong. You know it's wrong deep down. And I want to say this because there has been a lot of reading in between the lines. It's strange to me. I think I'm a very direct person and I say what I mean. And I do not want people to mistake what's happening right now or to wrongly assume my attentions here. So allow me to be very explicit, okay? I want war with all of you. Okay? All of you. And there's a reason. I'm gonna get to that reason a little bit. But I want more with all of you. So write your articles, issue your statements, email the White House, reach out for comment. Okay? Say whatever it is you want to say about me. I want war with all of you because I know. I know this isn't right. And there is no way you are going to convince me and the rest of the world that all of this is normal. 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You know what's so funny to me is I don't know, I feel like they are now steeped in psychology for toddlers. It's so obvious what's coming down the pipeline that thinks, oh, it's not appropriate to share private messages unless we do it. Unless we do it. Unless we're up on stage talking about private conversations and making stuff up that definitely didn't happen. I mean, I think it was actually Pastor McCoy's speech. Charlie wanted me to lead the next movement. Charlie. Charlie told me I'm America's pastor. He said, yeah, I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. I'm sure he called you America's pastor. And so, yeah, I will be doing whatever I want to do until the truth is told about what happened on 9 10. We should start with Josh Hammer, by the way, because he really has now become the king of defying no stereotypes where we last left off. Obviously, he is now infamous for just being such a deceitful little creature. The text message exchange. Josh Hammer caught hand in the cookie jar. I'm talking way in the cookie jar. No other way to say it. Right. Charlie gets killed. He on the same day starts pushing his book. Charlie's last words were buy my book by Josh Hammer's book the night before. Oh, he never even flinched on Israel. He loved Israel so much. And then I just waited because we're fishing now. And I knew they would do this. I knew liars have to lie fast and first. And he did. He lied. He lied over and over and over again about his position on Israel. And when I got, when he got caught, you would think that he would have a shred of decency. You would think he would have a shred of humility. You would think he would apologize for lying about Charlie's position on Israel. But he didn't. He just sort of doubled down. He sort of Israeled down, if you will. And it sort of gave me an idea for a little miniseries, a little recurring miniseries that we'll probably have on this show. An HBO miniseries, by the way, executively produced by me. I want to show it to you guys now. It's a trailer that we put together. I sure hope you guys like it. Take a listen How Charlie Kirk was actually feeling about the pressure he was receiving from pro Israel Zionist donors to Turning Point usa. Charlie definitely was not someone who liked to be bullied by donors, as we saw in those text messages. They're Jewish donors to TP USA played into the worst stereotypes of Jewish people. Charlie writes, jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. A few moments later. You know, I'm talking to lawyers. I think I'm a lawyer by background. I heard for a federal appeals judge. I know. I know a thing where war two about United States constitutional law. I think that we have a potentially serious case here for defamation, and I'm very much speaking with lawyers, and we'll see what happens. Well done, Joshi. Well done. Very good, Joshi. Tried your best to curb your Zionism. I know it's hard. Do your best. Too funny. Also, I want to shout out John Miller on X. He made me laugh. I mean, I was really laughing when I saw his tweet about Josh Hammer threatening to sue me. He just. He just wrote this and it said it all. He said, they really trying to make us believe this is the good guy. Lmao. I mean, come on. Yeah, I mean, he just looks like a Bond supervillain. That's just what he looks like. And by the way, that's. That's a lot of words to say. What I always say, like, we don't know. No, but we know. And on Josh Hammer. Yeah, we know you're not the good guy.