Podcast: Candace Host: Candace Owens Episode: Did Erika Kirk Know Jeffrey Epstein? | Candace Ep 309 Date: March 10, 2026

Episode Overview

In this solo episode, Candace Owens dives headlong into the growing suspicions around Erika Kirk – widow of conservative activist Charlie Kirk – whose high-profile appointment to the Air Force Academy’s Board of Visitors has sparked controversy. Candace lays out a detailed case suggesting a pattern of connections between Erika and notorious socialite/trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, pointing to intersections in the world of pageantry, modeling agencies, charity ventures, and real estate. The episode also addresses broader elite agendas, occultism, and the mounting skepticism among the conservative base toward both Trump and institutional leadership. Candace scrutinizes timelines surrounding Charlie Kirk’s last days, the optics and reality of recent Turning Point USA staff activities, and pushes for answers to questions about Erika Kirk’s rapid rise and possible concealed past.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Erika Kirk’s Surprising Appointment (00:28–05:00)

• Candace introduces the episode with sarcasm about Erika Kirk’s appointment to the Air Force Academy Board of Visitors, highlighting the exclusivity of the role and raising questions about her qualifications.
  • “How did she really just graduate from an apparent stay-at-home mother to suddenly being qualified...to the Defense Secretary of the United States? ...Her husband died. That’s what I’m told.” [03:00]
  • Notes the pattern in how Erika is promoted after Charlie’s assassination, likening the situation to a “Claire Underwood from House of Cards” scenario.
• Critiques the system as one that rewards survivors with unearned advancement, drawing a pointed contrast between Charlie’s documented achievements and Erika’s lack thereof.

2. Linking Erika Kirk and Jeffrey Epstein (05:00–15:30)

• Candace details her growing suspicion that Erika Kirk’s career repeatedly runs parallel to Jeffrey Epstein’s orbit, especially in:
  • Pageantry (Trump/Epstein business, Erika’s Miss Arizona USA win during Trump’s co-ownership)
  • Universities (Epstein’s funding at Arizona State University during Erika's attendance)
  • Charity Partnerships (Erika’s “Romanian Angels” project in coordination with US Marines at Constanta, Romania—site of alleged underage trafficking)
• Shares that she directly reached out to Turning Point USA for comment about Erika’s involvement with Next Model Management (a modeling agency deeply associated with Epstein's partner Faith Kates), and had not received a response after 48 hours.
  • “What does Erika have to do with Next Model Management? What is she doing there?” [30:30]

3. The Modeling World, Pageantry, and Epstein’s Modus Operandi (15:30–30:00)

• Lays out a timeline:
  • 2010: Epstein procures models from Romania and simultaneously, Erika’s cousin leads US military operations in Constanta.
  • 2011: Erika enrolls in ASU; shortly after, wins Miss Arizona USA and visits Romania for her charity (in partnership with figures later accused in trafficking cases).
  • 2014-2015: Erika is active in Los Angeles as a “casting director/recruiter,” with convergence in Mark Burnett’s production circles (Producer for Trump’s Apprentice).
  • Multiple, corroborated reports place Erika in meetings with Next Model Management’s executive circle (Epstein close associate Faith Kates), but with ambiguous reasons – not as a model, but as a “suit.”
• Questions the pattern of her repeatedly turning up in environments directly tied to known trafficking routes, modeling exploitation, and high-level real estate transactions possibly used for money movement.

4. Occult, Elites, and the Larger Agenda (08:10–13:00, 12:27–14:00)

• Candace pivots to a broader critique of elite misconduct—specifically, the “deep state” prioritizing depopulation and centralized control.
  • Quotes from an email exchange between Epstein and the Princess of Norway regarding lab-grown designer humans as evidence of eugenicist thinking among the elite. [07:40]
  • Recommends a clip (Father Ripperger on Sean Ryan’s podcast) about generational occultism: “They know that their activity in the occult is getting demons actually involved... they’re on the side of evil.” [11:32]
• Ties back the cultic, secret society undertones to the mechanics of how people like Epstein and, by implication, Erika Kirk, move within elite spheres.

5. Turning Point USA, White House Meetings, and the Release of the Epstein Files (14:00–25:00)

• Explains the suspicious timing and secrecy around Turning Point USA staff (Andrew Colvett, Mikey McCoy) at the White House on the eve of the Epstein files’ release.
  • “Odd that Andrew Colvett and allegedly Mikey McCoy and his wife were making an effort to fake a live show...” [13:37]
• Examines the optics of the organization’s public actions versus hidden dealings, suggesting image-maintenance around controversial connections and events.

6. Real Estate, More Strange Coincidences, and Missing Answers (32:00–36:00)

• Highlights Erika’s unexplained acquisition of a New York real estate license under Corcoran, whose president is Linda Rothschild (named in Epstein’s emails).
  • “If you want to move money, real estate is a very good way to do that.” [34:00]
• Notes absence of public records for Erika’s transactions, despite her listing with a firm named in Epstein’s network.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “The math on this is really simple. It makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it at all.” (Candace, sarcastically on Erika’s qualifications) [03:32]
• “Epstein was definitively of the mystic Frankist ilk. He was practicing mystical Judaism. There is no question about that.” [13:05]
• “What does Erika have to do with Next Model Management? What is she doing there?” [30:30]
• “You don’t need the protection of U.S. Marines to be in Romania and decide you want to drop off some Christmas gifts.” [28:55]
• “How many times can her life path keep intersecting with Jeffrey Epstein before it’s weird?” [35:26]

Detailed Timeline: The Night of September 8th [36:36–44:54]

1. Alibi Examination (36:36–44:54)
   • Candace reconstructs the timeline of Charlie Kirk’s last known day (Sept. 8), using texts, show appearance, football game, and neighborhood sightings.
     • Frank Turek, a pastor friend, recalls a walk with Charlie that night but is ambiguous about who else was present for dinner.
       • “He wanted to have dinner with the family, which is…he’s a family man.” [36:55]
     • Candace suggests evidence points to Charlie being at home with the kids alone, watching the Bears game.
     • Nobody can confirm Erika’s presence at home or anywhere that day.
   • Candace pledges to continue seeking independent confirmation or contradiction to Erika's stated whereabouts: “I will keep putting out an APB for September 8th for Erika Kirk.” [44:54]

Community Reactions and Candace’s Reflections (45:26–54:40)

• Candace reflects on the backlash against those questioning Erika Kirk (“grieving differently…with the Dept of Defense,” [45:35]) and urges caution and patience in seeking truth over defending the indefensible.
• Acknowledges now-severed personal faith in Trump, expressing honest regret: “At the end of the day, we just got it wrong with him or I don’t know if it’s just this time around, if this is who he is…” [53:10]
• Shares listener comments, with many expressing gratitude for her independent investigation, courage, and what one listener called “tenacity and charisma in the face of the constant barrage of attempts to subvert your power.” [54:00]

Occultism, Empiricism, and Gut Feeling (54:00–56:50)

• Candace emphasizes the need to heed one’s gut instincts in the face of absurdity, linking “the spiritual ick” the audience feels with the intentional push by elites toward empiricism and away from intuition: “We should stop ignoring our gut. There is so much more, and they know that there’s so much more. They’re playing with demons.” [54:20]
• Urges listeners to read up on Sabbateanism and Frankism as additional context for occult elite behavior.

Closing Notes and Corrections (57:10–58:20)

• Candace issues a factual correction: although Turning Point USA removed a controversial clip from their Twitter stream, the full episode (including Blake Neff’s comment about Erika stating Charlie “wouldn’t want to come back” after his death) remains up on Rumble.
• Reiterates the importance of accuracy and transparency, a central theme in her critique of both Erika Kirk and broader institutional deception.

Useful Timestamps

• 00:28 – Start of Candace’s main commentary, Erika Kirk’s appointment
• 05:30 – Introduction of Epstein suspicions linked to Erika and pageant/model networks
• 10:43 – Clip: Father Ripperger on generational occult initiation
• 12:27 – Bloodlines, Freemasonry, Epstein’s “method”
• 19:00 – Timeline: Romania, ASU, Black Sea operations, Tyler Boyer
• 31:40 – Confirmation of Erika’s meetings at Next Model Management
• 36:36 – September 8th reconstructed timeline (Charlie Kirk’s last days)
• 45:26 – Shifting public narrative; defending Erika Kirk
• 54:00 – Comments on occult, intuition, audience feedback
• 57:10 – Correction on Turning Point’s content removal

Conclusion

Through a mix of sarcasm, skepticism, and direct investigation, Candace Owens challenges the narrative surrounding Erika Kirk’s rapid ascension and relentless advancement. Raising credible questions about intersecting paths with Jeffrey Epstein and elite networks, Candace demands transparency and prods her audience—both left and right—to question the stories they are told by institutions and media. The episode weaves granular investigative detail with broad critiques of cultural, political, and spiritual malfeasance, serving as a lightning rod for a newly critical conservative skepticism.