Podcast Summary

Podcast: Candace
Host: Candace Owens
Episode: Exclusive Interview: What He Saw On Fort Huachuca The Day Before Charlie Died | Candace Ep 282
Date: December 19, 2025

Episode Overview

This unfiltered solo episode of "Candace" features an explosive interview with "Mitch," an Army veteran and former intelligence operative, who claims to have witnessed a secretive, high-level meeting at Fort Huachuca the day before Charlie Kirk's death. Candace weaves together developments in her ongoing investigation, emphasizing suspicious circumstances around Charlie’s case, increasing indications of military and intelligence infiltration in Christian circles, and new revelations regarding Fort Huachuca—the military intelligence hub. The episode is heavy on allegations, testimony, and Candace’s characteristic blend of skepticism and crusading tone.

Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Candace on Evidence, Contradictions, and Unanswered Questions (00:05–24:22)

• Bomb Dog Controversy: Law enforcement and military listeners reacted strongly to the idea that bomb dogs could miss a gun (“This is where they are drawing the line in terms of fed slop").
• Fragmentation in Charlie’s Car: Responding to a listener, Candace discusses suspicious fragments in photos from Charlie's SUV, suggesting either broken glass or another material but avoiding speculation without evidence.

  "It looked like there were shards of glass, like tempered glass that you might see if you drop or break an iPhone." (03:44)

• Data Points of Suspicion: Candace lists troubling inconsistencies, including:
  • No direct evidence Tyler Robinson committed the crime ("There's no evidence outside of these shady messages that are not even timestamped")
  • Potential witness never contacted by authorities
  • Bomb dogs missing the weapon; local feds “directing” officers to its location
  • Failure to provide bomb dogs with weapon scent to run a backtrack
  • Federal agents removing surveillance footage from the hospital
  • Multiple sets of fingerprints, including Tyler’s, on the weapon
  • Missing footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in
• Federal Interference:

  “Federal agents prevented the surgeon from returning to his operating room; Federal agents removed the hospital surveillance footage… That strikes me as tremendously odd.” (18:38)

• Contextual Theme: The recurring narrative is that federal authorities blocked transparency, erased evidence, and possibly shielded the real perpetrators—raising the specter of a cover-up.

2. Christianity and Intelligence Infiltration (24:24–38:25)

• Christian Influence Under Suspicion: Candace posits that Christian institutions and influencers are increasingly being infiltrated, with particular emphasis on unusual patterns in church leadership and "Christian influencers":

  “Many of these pastors are behaving like operatives… many of these Christian influencers are behaving like operatives.” (27:30)

• Fort Huachuca’s Role:
  • Background: Fort Huachuca is an Army intelligence training base, not a combat one; civilians can be trained as intelligence assets there.
  • Listener Email: Candace shares a detailed email from a Sierra Vista resident who recounts how her faith-based gym was, she believes, targeted by military students training to infiltrate Christian organizations through psy-ops—a claim supported by other former students.

  “The class’s objective was to teach military personnel to infiltrate Christian groups and organizations through covert psychological operations. The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians.” (35:14)

  • Sexual Deception Exercises: Trainees practiced lying and "maintaining false personas" with unsuspecting civilians, sometimes including sexual encounters.
• Turning Point USA: Candace links these stories to the possible infiltration of organizations like TPUSA, especially following the death of Charlie Kirk.

3. Enter “Mitch” – The Fort Huachuca Eyewitness (24:24–69:27)

Background – Who is Mitch? (27:11–34:02)

• Military & Border Assignment: Mitch details a mission on the US-Mexico border in the 90s where his team discovered a massive cartel tunnel, only to have the operation covered up and their lives endangered by cross-border corruption involving both Mexican and American officials.
• Aftermath:
  • Gagged for 35 Years: He was placed under a gag order (non-disclosure agreement), ostracized, targeted by cartel-linked agents, forced to change his identity, and left to fend off lawsuits and death threats with zero government support.

    "They destroyed every layer of your life, fed your name to the cartels... you keep your mouth shut about it." (34:02)

The Visit to Fort Huachuca (38:40–52:32)

• Purpose: After his gag order expired in May, Mitch decided to return to Fort Huachuca in September 2025—to seek official records and justice for his ordeal.
• Arrival Details:
  • Checks into Candlewood Inn & Suites on base (documents provided to Candace).
  • Notices a “professional military-looking” man and a striking woman with icy blue eyes at the hotel—remembers these features distinctly due to personal associations.
  • By happenstance, finds himself at headquarters the next morning, encountering high-ranking officers, military contractors, men in suits, and a noticeable buzz around the building.
  • Sees a group leave in a “shiny GSA vehicle” (government-issued for VIPs).

Security Escalation (46:54–54:26)

• Questioned and Escorted: After approaching the front desk about his records, Mitch is:
  • Escorted away by captains and confronted by a host of federal and local law enforcement, apparently under the pretext of a bomb threat.
  • Interrogated for hours, prevented from accessing the building, and told repeatedly to “stay off base for 24 hours”—which aligns uncannily with the timeline before Charlie Kirk’s death.
  • Given a police report number (shared with Candace).

What/WWho Did Mitch See? (54:26–62:11)

• Recognition and Aftermath: After news of Charlie’s death, Mitch recognizes:
  • The woman with “rare icy blue eyes” as Erica Kirk (Charlie’s wife)
  • The “professional” man as Brian Harpole (TPUSA head of security)
  • A congressman—later identified from photos as Rep. Mark Amodei (NV)

"Those are really rare eyes... 95 to 99%. I can't imagine somebody else." (59:13, on recognizing Erica Kirk; also see 57:55 on Harpole, 62:11 on Amodei)

• All were present the day before Charlie’s death, at Fort Huachuca.
• Candace's Doubt/Verification:
  • Candace confirms, via metadata and additional witnesses, that Mitch was present and that the meeting occurred, but cannot independently confirm the identities of those he saw.
  • She cautions that people can have doppelgangers but also explains her choice to air the testimony, given its potential importance.

4. Candace’s Reflections and Fundraising (62:11–69:27)

• Allegations and Implications: Candace draws together the investigative threads, underscoring the intertwining between military intelligence, right-wing Christian influences, and the suspicious events surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death.

“I just haven’t. I don’t care about politics anymore. I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk and I want to know why.” (71:48)

• Action and Support:
  • Candace vows to set up a fundraising campaign for Mitch and his family, who have “endured hell because he did his job.”
  • She thanks Mitch as “the missing piece” and re-emphasizes her conviction that some religious and right-wing organizations have been seeded with military psychological operations agents.

Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the Bomb Dog Controversy:

  "The bomb dogs missed the gun. Apparently for people who work with bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to their intelligence than the man of steel neck." (02:32) – Candace

• On Evidence Gaps:

  “There’s actually no… overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson committed this crime... outside of these shady messages that are not even timestamped.” (10:40) – Candace

• On Faith Infiltration:

  “Many of these pastors are behaving like operatives, and many of these Christian influencers are behaving like operatives.” (27:30) – Candace
  "The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians." (35:15) – Email shared by Candace

• On Witnessing the Meeting at Fort Huachuca:

  "Those are really rare eyes... 95 to 99%. I can't imagine somebody else." (59:13) – Mitch, on seeing Erica Kirk
  “He was present at that meeting the next morning.” (58:35) – Mitch, on Harpole
  “That was definitely the guy.” (62:11) – Mitch, on Congressman Amodei

• Candace’s Motivation:

  “I would be turning my back on this, really, a hero discovering the cartels… and I decided that, you know what?... I genuinely believe this is God’s platform. I am a conduit.” (61:22) – Candace

Timeline of Important Segments

• 00:05–10:40 – Candace’s introduction; data points questioning Tyler Robinson’s guilt
• 18:00–24:22 – Evidence handling, witness issues, and federal agency oddities detailed
• 24:24–38:25 – Discussion of Christian “infiltration,” introduction to Fort Huachuca psy-op stories
• 38:40–54:26 – Mitch’s background, arrival at Fort Huachuca, suspicious events, and security response
• 54:26–62:11 – Mitch describes who he saw, including TPUSA figures and a congressman
• 62:11–69:27 – Candace’s endorsement, plans for fundraising, and closing reflections
• 69:27–End – Listener messages of support and Candace’s summary call to action

Conclusion

This episode is a pivotal installment in Candace’s ongoing citizen investigation into the death of Charlie Kirk. It introduces "Mitch," whose account significantly expands the narrative, directly implicating figures connected to TPUSA, high-ranking officials, and possible links to psy-ops training programs oriented toward infiltrating Christian institutions. Candace underscores her commitment to following the evidence and supporting whistleblowers, regardless of institutional pressures or controversy.

For Further Info

• Candace invites anyone with knowledge of Fort Huachuca intelligence infiltration or relevant military contacts to email her with information.
• She promises support and continued coverage for whistleblowers like Mitch.