EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: What He Saw On Fort Huachuca The Day Before Charlie Died. | Candace Ep 282

Summary

---

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Candace
Host: Candace Owens
Episode: Exclusive Interview: What He Saw On Fort Huachuca The Day Before Charlie Died | Candace Ep 282
Date: December 19, 2025

---

Episode Overview

This unfiltered solo episode of "Candace" features an explosive interview with "Mitch," an Army veteran and former intelligence operative, who claims to have witnessed a secretive, high-level meeting at Fort Huachuca the day before Charlie Kirk's death. Candace weaves together developments in her ongoing investigation, emphasizing suspicious circumstances around Charlie’s case, increasing indications of military and intelligence infiltration in Christian circles, and new revelations regarding Fort Huachuca—the military intelligence hub. The episode is heavy on allegations, testimony, and Candace’s characteristic blend of skepticism and crusading tone.

---

Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Candace on Evidence, Contradictions, and Unanswered Questions (00:05–24:22)

• Bomb Dog Controversy: Law enforcement and military listeners reacted strongly to the idea that bomb dogs could miss a gun (“This is where they are drawing the line in terms of fed slop").
• Fragmentation in Charlie’s Car: Responding to a listener, Candace discusses suspicious fragments in photos from Charlie's SUV, suggesting either broken glass or another material but avoiding speculation without evidence.

  "It looked like there were shards of glass, like tempered glass that you might see if you drop or break an iPhone." (03:44)

• Data Points of Suspicion: Candace lists troubling inconsistencies, including:
  • No direct evidence Tyler Robinson committed the crime ("There's no evidence outside of these shady messages that are not even timestamped")
  • Potential witness never contacted by authorities
  • Bomb dogs missing the weapon; local feds “directing” officers to its location
  • Failure to provide bomb dogs with weapon scent to run a backtrack
  • Federal agents removing surveillance footage from the hospital
  • Multiple sets of fingerprints, including Tyler’s, on the weapon
  • Missing footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in
• Federal Interference:

  “Federal agents prevented the surgeon from returning to his operating room; Federal agents removed the hospital surveillance footage… That strikes me as tremendously odd.” (18:38)

• Contextual Theme: The recurring narrative is that federal authorities blocked transparency, erased evidence, and possibly shielded the real perpetrators—raising the specter of a cover-up.

---

2. Christianity and Intelligence Infiltration (24:24–38:25)

• Christian Influence Under Suspicion: Candace posits that Christian institutions and influencers are increasingly being infiltrated, with particular emphasis on unusual patterns in church leadership and "Christian influencers":

  “Many of these pastors are behaving like operatives… many of these Christian influencers are behaving like operatives.” (27:30)

• Fort Huachuca’s Role:
  • Background: Fort Huachuca is an Army intelligence training base, not a combat one; civilians can be trained as intelligence assets there.
  • Listener Email: Candace shares a detailed email from a Sierra Vista resident who recounts how her faith-based gym was, she believes, targeted by military students training to infiltrate Christian organizations through psy-ops—a claim supported by other former students.

  “The class’s objective was to teach military personnel to infiltrate Christian groups and organizations through covert psychological operations. The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians.” (35:14)

  • Sexual Deception Exercises: Trainees practiced lying and "maintaining false personas" with unsuspecting civilians, sometimes including sexual encounters.
• Turning Point USA: Candace links these stories to the possible infiltration of organizations like TPUSA, especially following the death of Charlie Kirk.

---

3. Enter “Mitch” – The Fort Huachuca Eyewitness (24:24–69:27)

Background – Who is Mitch? (27:11–34:02)

• Military & Border Assignment: Mitch details a mission on the US-Mexico border in the 90s where his team discovered a massive cartel tunnel, only to have the operation covered up and their lives endangered by cross-border corruption involving both Mexican and American officials.
• Aftermath:
  • Gagged for 35 Years: He was placed under a gag order (non-disclosure agreement), ostracized, targeted by cartel-linked agents, forced to change his identity, and left to fend off lawsuits and death threats with zero government support.

    "They destroyed every layer of your life, fed your name to the cartels... you keep your mouth shut about it." (34:02)

The Visit to Fort Huachuca (38:40–52:32)

• Purpose: After his gag order expired in May, Mitch decided to return to Fort Huachuca in September 2025—to seek official records and justice for his ordeal.
• Arrival Details:
  • Checks into Candlewood Inn & Suites on base (documents provided to Candace).
  • Notices a “professional military-looking” man and a striking woman with icy blue eyes at the hotel—remembers these features distinctly due to personal associations.
  • By happenstance, finds himself at headquarters the next morning, encountering high-ranking officers, military contractors, men in suits, and a noticeable buzz around the building.
  • Sees a group leave in a “shiny GSA vehicle” (government-issued for VIPs).

Security Escalation (46:54–54:26)

• Questioned and Escorted: After approaching the front desk about his records, Mitch is:
  • Escorted away by captains and confronted by a host of federal and local law enforcement, apparently under the pretext of a bomb threat.
  • Interrogated for hours, prevented from accessing the building, and told repeatedly to “stay off base for 24 hours”—which aligns uncannily with the timeline before Charlie Kirk’s death.
  • Given a police report number (shared with Candace).

What/WWho Did Mitch See? (54:26–62:11)

• Recognition and Aftermath: After news of Charlie’s death, Mitch recognizes:
  • The woman with “rare icy blue eyes” as Erica Kirk (Charlie’s wife)
  • The “professional” man as Brian Harpole (TPUSA head of security)
  • A congressman—later identified from photos as Rep. Mark Amodei (NV)

"Those are really rare eyes... 95 to 99%. I can't imagine somebody else." (59:13, on recognizing Erica Kirk; also see 57:55 on Harpole, 62:11 on Amodei)

• All were present the day before Charlie’s death, at Fort Huachuca.
• Candace's Doubt/Verification:
  • Candace confirms, via metadata and additional witnesses, that Mitch was present and that the meeting occurred, but cannot independently confirm the identities of those he saw.
  • She cautions that people can have doppelgangers but also explains her choice to air the testimony, given its potential importance.

---

4. Candace’s Reflections and Fundraising (62:11–69:27)

• Allegations and Implications: Candace draws together the investigative threads, underscoring the intertwining between military intelligence, right-wing Christian influences, and the suspicious events surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death.

“I just haven’t. I don’t care about politics anymore. I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk and I want to know why.” (71:48)

• Action and Support:
  • Candace vows to set up a fundraising campaign for Mitch and his family, who have “endured hell because he did his job.”
  • She thanks Mitch as “the missing piece” and re-emphasizes her conviction that some religious and right-wing organizations have been seeded with military psychological operations agents.

---

Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the Bomb Dog Controversy:

  "The bomb dogs missed the gun. Apparently for people who work with bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to their intelligence than the man of steel neck." (02:32) – Candace

• On Evidence Gaps:

  “There’s actually no… overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson committed this crime... outside of these shady messages that are not even timestamped.” (10:40) – Candace

• On Faith Infiltration:

  “Many of these pastors are behaving like operatives, and many of these Christian influencers are behaving like operatives.” (27:30) – Candace
  "The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians." (35:15) – Email shared by Candace

• On Witnessing the Meeting at Fort Huachuca:

  "Those are really rare eyes... 95 to 99%. I can't imagine somebody else." (59:13) – Mitch, on seeing Erica Kirk
  “He was present at that meeting the next morning.” (58:35) – Mitch, on Harpole
  “That was definitely the guy.” (62:11) – Mitch, on Congressman Amodei

• Candace’s Motivation:

  “I would be turning my back on this, really, a hero discovering the cartels… and I decided that, you know what?... I genuinely believe this is God’s platform. I am a conduit.” (61:22) – Candace

---

Timeline of Important Segments

• 00:05–10:40 – Candace’s introduction; data points questioning Tyler Robinson’s guilt
• 18:00–24:22 – Evidence handling, witness issues, and federal agency oddities detailed
• 24:24–38:25 – Discussion of Christian “infiltration,” introduction to Fort Huachuca psy-op stories
• 38:40–54:26 – Mitch’s background, arrival at Fort Huachuca, suspicious events, and security response
• 54:26–62:11 – Mitch describes who he saw, including TPUSA figures and a congressman
• 62:11–69:27 – Candace’s endorsement, plans for fundraising, and closing reflections
• 69:27–End – Listener messages of support and Candace’s summary call to action

---

Conclusion

This episode is a pivotal installment in Candace’s ongoing citizen investigation into the death of Charlie Kirk. It introduces "Mitch," whose account significantly expands the narrative, directly implicating figures connected to TPUSA, high-ranking officials, and possible links to psy-ops training programs oriented toward infiltrating Christian institutions. Candace underscores her commitment to following the evidence and supporting whistleblowers, regardless of institutional pressures or controversy.

---

For Further Info

• Candace invites anyone with knowledge of Fort Huachuca intelligence infiltration or relevant military contacts to email her with information.
• She promises support and continued coverage for whistleblowers like Mitch.

---

Transcript

[A]

Kids, they grow up so fast. One day they're taking their first steps and the next they don't fit into the tiny sneakers they took them in. You blink your eyes and their princess dress is two sizes too small. And their dinosaur backpack isn't cool anymore. But don't cry because they're growing up. Smile because you can profit off of it. For real. There are a bunch of parents on depop looking for the stuff your kid just grew out of. Download depop to start selling. Okay, everyone, happy Thursday. I have to tell you that I was laughing so much yesterday because I received a flood of emails from law enforcement officers, military guys that were just like, no way. Absolutely not. That's where I draw the line. The bomb dogs missed the gun. Apparently for people who work with bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to their intelligence than. Than the man of steel neck. Like it was just a bridge too far. This is where they are drawing the line in terms of fed slop. Anyway, we have another unbelievable episode for you guys here today. I thought long and hard about whether to bring on the eyewitness from Fort Huachuca. And I think when we speak to him today and he gives you his testimony, you will of course understand why I am always honored to have any person that serves in our military especially honored to have him, given all that he has lived through, despite the firestorm that I know that both he and I are about to endure. Welcome back to Candace. Okay, so a couple of things before we get into that interview. I, at the top of the show first want to tell you about this interesting question that I received yesterday from one of our viewers over on X that I wanted to address. He asked me specifically if I saw black plastic fragmentation over the floor of Charlie's suv. I was immediately struck by this question because I am not kidding when I tell you that the very first thing that I noticed when I went through those photos of Charlie's suv, I said to my team that it looked like there were shots, shards of glass, like tempered glass that you might see if you drop or break an iPhone. It was very distinct to me in the picture from the blood that is all over the seats and all over the floor. I was like, oh, maybe like someone broke a window or something. And then I sort of put it out of my mind and particularly I noticed a lot of it spread across that back, back seat, rear floor. So I'm going to show you that just a couple of photos of that close up so that you can see it, what that looks like, because yeah, it was just kind of a compelling thing that he noticed something that I noticed. And you can see it was unusual. I think in this person's mind, they. The. The line that they were going down. I guess the line of questioning that they were going down in their own mind was, is this evidence that something broke on Charlie? Could something have been rigged? And I want to say that we can't necessarily extrapolate that from what we're looking at. It could be a thousand other things. Somebody could have actually broken a phone in there. Somebody could have had something in there. It could be broken hard candy. I mean, there's a lot going. And yeah, I did. But I did want to address that because it was interesting that he noted it and asked if we saw little black bits. And we. And I. I do. That is visually what I see. I am hesitant, by the way, to put up the rest of the photos kind of still going through that. I want to be slow on that because obviously I don't want the federal officers, the good guys that are in there who have assisted in this to be rumbled. Right. I don't want people, Cash. To go on a hunt and figure out who gave us what and people to start getting fired. We need to have the white knights in government. So I just need some time to think about that. And. Yeah, anyways, what we can do, however, and what we're starting to formulate now are just addressing these data points, right? These. These mysterious circumstances, these things that don't necessarily make sense. What do we actually know about that day? And what's really interesting for me is when I review these data points, I. I can't fathom how there are people out there right now trying to convince you that there is overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson committed this crime. There's actually no. There's no evidence outside of these shady messages that are not even timestamped. He. We don't have a confession from him. We have nothing. Okay. So these are just some. Some data points for you to. To remember as we go through this. The surgeon never confirmed or even suggested that Charlie was shot with a.30 06 or that Charlie had a steel neck that stopped that bullet. Rather, he suggested throughout the course of a conversation that maybe a frangible bullet was used. The lone confirmed eyewitness that we have. That is confirmed to the alleged shooter on Lozi center rooftop. Before the sound goes off, the sound of a shot rings out. Has not been contacted by the lawyers or the investigators on either side of this trial. The pending trial we are now in the phase where investigators are supposed to go out and be collecting more evidence. Pending the may probable cause hearing, he still has not been contacted. And why is that crucial? Because this individual is an instructor at a gun range. He claims the weapon that he saw looked more like a 223, quote, something shorter than the one that they found. The person that he observed was wearing what seemed to him to be black tactical gear plus a face mask. And he describes that person as looking like a. Like a professional. The bomb dogs were unable to locate the weapon in the field where it was eventually discovered despite the fact that they had crawled over that area. They just weren't on their game that day. That. This is now my favorite part of the story. It's just a little. I just didn't expect the reaction to be what it was. It's. I. I just love the people that are like, no, absolutely, this is. No, we are done with the fed slop. Instead, what happened was federal agents directed local officers to the weapon. Lucky feds. Lucky feds. The K9s were not provided with the scent of the weapon once it was discovered. So they did not then take that weapon and then have the dogs trace it back to the top of lawsuit. That did not happen. Terl Farnsworth. Still major question marks. He raced to remove the camera that was directly behind Charlie's head. I want to tell you, by the way, I'm reading myself into this, so not a data point, but in my mind, when I imagine why he might have done that, I think it's because they were gonna go with this story that a 36 hit Charlie Kirk. And what debunked that obviously would be seeing that it didn't, it didn't go through. There was no, like, there was no evidence of what should have been a tremendous amount of damage done to his neck. I also want to say here, because I've heard that various people like Terrell are getting death threats. Obviously, if you're watching the show, we are investigating what happened with Charlie Kirk. I have been clear of it. I do believe that there are some people that are engaged in a cover up. I am never giving anybody the permission to, you know, go be a bandit and go outside and take the law into your own hands. That's not what we should ever be doing and engaging in. Next data point that we have. Federal agents prevented the surgeon from returning to his operating room. I told you that was something that startled him. And he placed a call, presumably to D.C. to make them move because he wanted, obviously the team to get Back in there to clean it, to make sure that Charlie could get cleaned up. Before Erica came in, Federal agents removed the hospital surveillance footage. They're on a manhunt. And for some reason, that seemed like something that they should do. That strikes me as tremendously odd. We have that the vehicle in which Charlie was transported to Timpanos or Timpanogos Hospital was not impounded by law enforcement. It's very odd. And there were multiple sets of prints on the weapon that was found, something that I did not share with you, but I did know this for some time, and I can confirm this to you because that's one of their things. They got the prints of Tyler Robinson on this gun. There were multiple sets of prints that were on the gun that was recovered, thanks to the instincts of the feds and not the noses of the dogs. And finally, and I think this is a big thing, the footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in is apparently missing. And I have told you guys, and again, I'm reading myself into this, that in my investigation, I found that their entire story about how the parents turned him in and did the right thing is crap. It is bs. That's not what happened. They were told, either, you know, these doors are gonna get broken down or you're gonna. You're going to come in peacefully. And Tyler chose the latter. I also was told by police officers that were there when he. He came into the police, that they were. They were told not to look at him. They were told to avoid cameras. Very strange things that happened when he did eventually come in. And we won't know how strange because apparently the footage is missing. According to local Utah news that they. They didn't say a foia. There's another term. What was a gamma requested for that footage? And we're basically told, well, now there's been an expiration on that footage, and we don't have it. So maybe they just mean they already handed it over to investigators. I don't know. But we will wait and see. That's a lot that is going on. I want to pivot now because our instincts, which they keep mocking us over, I think are on the money. We're going to talk now about Christianity. Christianity. I'm putting that in quotation marks because it has been a. On this podcast, a recurring theme. Right. I keep sensing a. That these pastors are dangerous. Right. I've covered extensively how even just amongst the Cavalry Chapel in particular, there's just way too much of a habit of establishing former pedophiles and drug traffickers as lead pastors of churches. Okay. I'm not saying that people can't find God. I'm just saying that my preference would be that they maybe not be provided with access to children. Right. If, if you committed a crime against child. This is a preference that I guess is not or perhaps is in conflict with the beliefs and the preferences of Rob McCoy, who makes my skin crawl. We showed you that interview that he did with somebody who apparently went on rampage. He actually went to prison for it and he was just sort of laundering his reputation and then gave him access again to children. I feel like that is very wrong. I have also on the show been speaking a lot about these quote unquote Christian influencers. Something's not right. A lot of women who seem to know their Bibles for almost the implicit and explicit aim of socially engineering the population, right? Telling you, oh, it's right here in the Bible. Same with the pastors. God doesn't want you to follow Tucker Carlson on Instagram. Josh Hammer is amazing. Candace is possessed by a demon. You don't want to be possessed by a demon. So unfollow Tucker Charleston and unfollow Candace. And I promise there is no other motivations. Candace is just crazy and you should listen to me. Similarly, there are so many conservative media companies who are run by former military intelligence people that leave naval intelligence people that lead the Mossad suddenly. Their aim is to speak about Judeo Christian values. You know, they find God after they, they leave the military. I'm not saying that that's impossible. I'm just saying that this is something that we have discussed a lot on this podcast. I have been suggesting to you all that faith has been infiltrated by the military and people laughed. They laughed. All you guys didn't laugh, but like, oh, what do you mean by that? Well, you guys pull up a chair because it's about to get even more interesting. Fort Huachuca, as many of you in the military have informed me, is actually an intelligence base. Now, for those of you who are ignorant like me regarding the structure of the military, this is an important distinction to make in your mind. Because when we think about military bases, at least me, and maybe, maybe you can. You have the same mindset. I tend to think about where they're scrambling off the planes off of an air base if there's an attack, right? Oh, quickly, jump into. Jump into your planes and get into the air or maybe get into the sea. It just requires an immediate response. But that is not what Fort Huachuca in Arizona is Okay. It is a hub for intelligence training. Civilians can be turned into intelligence assets on this base. They can take courses to join the intelligence community. Okay, just giving you one example of an email that I got. Quote, just FYI, Fort Huachuca is where soldiers go for their MIT courses. That is army military intelligence. Once a soldier has finished basic training, they go here for their advanced training for their actual job in army military intelligence. End quote. Okay, now, among the many emails that I received regarding what sort of intelligence courses take place, I was absolutely floored with when a person who grew up and lives just outside of the base in, in Sierra Vista told me something. I'm going to recount the story to you and I'm going to paraphrase a little bit of this so that I protect their identity. Basically. Their story begins in May of 2013. They are two recently baptized Christians. Like I said, they grew up in this area, Sierra Vista, and they decided that they were going to pour their savings into starting a gym. Now, of course, because it's a gym that's located off base, they had a lot of clientele who happened to be associated with the base. And one such client was a woman that they met. A couple that they met that were on fire for the Lord. Right? That couple made a sizable investment in their gym and became, quote, unquote, founding members. Okay, so the gym owners were drawn to this couple because they were so bold in their face. They were like, I. I loved the bold proclamation of their faith. And we thought, this is great. This, this is going to work. They accept money from them. So you can imagine that they were then completely surprised and shocked when this couple, over time, effectively staged something akin to a hostile takeover of their company, undermining them while pretending to be their friends, going behind their backs, propositioning other gym members. I'm gonna be clear here. This is ob. Allegedly. I'm going to say allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly here. The couple almost lost everything in the process, and they had to start all over again. Now, what was once the fastest growing gym in Sierra Vista, suddenly they were forced to relocate and downsize their company entirely. So now it's 2015, they are in their new, smaller location of a gym. And I'm going to read this next portion of the email that I received verbatim. Again, allegedly, Allegedly. Allegedly. Because he names an individual, an individual who, I do not know. I've never heard of this individual, but I feel it is relevant because I'd like to learn more. The email continues, quote, we were struggling, sometimes barely making rent, but still Serving the community, including military students who came through for four to six month training courses. Okay, I'm gonna stress that again. Got all these students that are coming in and their training is lasting between four to six months. So they're signing up for this gym. Back into the quotation. One morning I noticed a female military military member lingering after class. She was visibly distressed, so I kept the gym open longer than usual to give her space to talk. We ended up conversing for about 45 minutes. And what she shared with me has stuck with me ever since. She said she, quote, could not take it anymore. When I asked for details, she explained that her stress was coming from a class that she was taking on Fort Huachuca, taught by none other than Bruce Bevins. My ears perked up when I heard his name as I immediately remembered the incident with his wife. This young woman described Bruce as, quote, the most evil man that she had ever met. She then revealed something that I wasn't expecting at all. The class's objective was to teach military personnel to infiltrate Christian groups and organizations through covert psychological operations. The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians. At the time, I didn't fully connect the dots. Our gym was and still is an openly Christian faith based organization. But looking back now, I have to wonder if the infiltration and the destruction of our gym was actually a training exercise or field assignment. I also wonder if the distressed young soldier was sent to our gym on assignment from Bruce, but couldn't follow through with her objectives and instead chose to confide in me. There were other students who will corroborate this type of training to military students both named Blank and Blank. I'm redacting that. Passed through our gym during this same period. They shared similar stories, but seemed much more advanced in their training. On one occasion, after I asked what was so funny in the back of my class, they privately shared that they had just returned from an overnight field training mission with very little sleep. Their objective had been to deceive civilians in Tucson, about an hour north of us. They practiced at local bars and public venues on unsuspecting people telling lies, remembering those lies and maintaining their false Personas without, quote, unquote breaking character. They laughed about their conquests while working out at our gym. Now I got the impression that their deception sometimes extended to sexual encounters with their targets. At the time, I found this disturbing, but I did not know what to make of it. Now, 12 years later and watching the situation unfold with Charlie Kirk and learning that some of his most trusted people may have been trained operatives who infiltrated Turning Point usa. These memories suddenly seem significant. You mentioned previously that there was a strange military background connection among some of the people involved. I am now wondering if instructors like Bruce Bevins trained some of these individuals before they infiltrated Christian organizations like Turning Point usa. End quote. Now, I obviously cannot confirm just yet. I'm sure after the show we're going to get a bunch of emails the allegations against Bruce. Again, I have never heard of this individual. But what I can say to you is on a guttural level, I feel this is accurate. I do. It is what I have noticed. It's what I've been pointing to you all year. Many of these pastors are behaving like operatives and many of these Christian influencers are behaving like operative. And I keep telling you that all roads, including the Egyptian here, Israeli planes lead to the front door of Turning Point USA Faith. I kept saying there's something when Faith suddenly infiltrated and something happened to this organization. And I feel this email is a big piece of the puzzle. Okay, so if you played a part in these exercises on Fort Huachuca base where you were learning instructions about how to be a good little Christian to infiltrate and potentially to overthrow a Christian organization, and maybe you're having some second thoughts about your soul and you'd like to speak to me about it off record, please email more tipsandaceowens.com and I would also like you all to remember that we suddenly have been experiencing wall to wall panic ever since we mentioned Fort Huachuca. You saw this. It's crazy. I mean, the articles right now are unhinged. They are, they are, are just doing fiction. The panic button was pressed when we mentioned Fort Huachuca in the alleged meeting that happened on the morning of September 9th. So we're gonna get into that. By the way, for those of you that thought that this person was making it up, he was apparently not familiar with metadata. I don't think he was. And he had not sent me the photos that he took that morning on the base. So he tells a story, I stepped outside, I got coffee. Well, because he thought he was going to write and I'm laughing here, going to like right the wrong of his past. He was sort of documenting himself while he was on the base. So he sent, sends me over all this stuff and I literally was able to confer with the metadata, where he was, exactly what time it was, and see the background, obviously. And it's just a fact. Okay. It's just A fact that this, this happened. He was there. I was also able to establish it because like, now, this is like beyond a reasonable doubt. Now when we get back after this brief break from our sponsors, we are going to bring on and this is his new name, Mitch. I, I've told you about who he believes he stumbled upon in that meeting and I think that we need to focus on that and you may learn more. I know I certainly did. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys. When they double down on abortion, you know that we have to double down on supporting life. Through our partnership with preborn, we can help save babies and support mothers in need. Everyday preborn clinics rescue hundreds of babies. Because when a mother sees her baby on an ultrasound and hears that tiny heartbeat, her chance at choosing life doubles. And now, thanks to a generous match program, your gift will be doubled as well. That means twice as many ultrasounds, twice as many lives saved, and twice as many mothers that are given hope with diapers, car seats, counseling plus care up to two years. If you've heard about preborn before but you've not yet taken action, there is no better time to do so than right now. Their work is some of the most important work to help heal our country. One ultrasound is just $28, but you can obviously give 10 times that. If you can afford to head to preborn.comcandace to give again. That's preborn.comcandace. i also want to tell you guys about the Wellness Company because what if the sore throat and fever that hit you overnight did not mean that you had to cancel a family trip, miss work, or waste hours at urgent care. Instead, you could just open your medical emergency kit from the Wellness Company, match your symptoms to the doctor recommended guide, and start treatment immediately. This is not a first aid kit. It is a mini urgent care center right at your fingertips. Inside, you'll find core prescriptions to treat over 30 conditions like Covid, strep throats, pneumonia, plus more. So there's no more waiting rooms or pharmacy lines, just modernized medicine right when you need it. Ordering is simple. At checkout, you can complete a short intake form and a licensed doctor will review it. Fill your prescriptions and the kit will arrive to your home within a week. No one wants to be sick during the holidays. Be prepared. Save yourself time and money. Medical emergency kit puts urgent care in your hands. Order your kit now by heading to TWC Health Candice and be sure to use Code Candice to save up to $45 off plus free shipping that's TWC Health, Candace and use code Candice at checkout kits are available. I should tell you to us residents only. Also want to tell you guys about Tax Network USA because you might owe back taxes. Maybe you have not filed in years. Well, now is the time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS is fighting back and proving that it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than they've ever been. They're sending out more collection notices. They're filing more tax liens and collecting billions more than they had in recent years. The IRS can take your wages, bank accounts, Social Security, retirement and even your home if you owe or you haven't filed. It's not a question of if the IRS will act, but when. Right now, Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they can stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands or even eliminate your debt entirely if you qualify. Don't make a serious mistake by representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own. Waiving your rights can cost you even more money. They are not on your side, obviously. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process of settling your tax burden once and for all. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com candace for your free discovery. Call with Tax Network USA. Again, that's T N usa.com candice.

[B]

What.

[A]

Can I say other than the fact that I do just feel on a spiritual level that we have been infiltrated? I'll ask a broader question. Are all of our lives a bit like the Truman Show? Do we have essentially a cast of characters who are performing and pretending? And this is what kind of made everybody go crazy after the Turning Point USA event where Tucker asked the question, where does this guy's money come from? I mean, obviously Barry Weiss is one of these actors. This is clearly an act. You obviously are not intelligent. You obviously are not some journalist that works their way up and broke some important stories. You are obviously an intelligence op and not so intelligent op. Like are all Are we living in the Truman Show? Are we all going to work thinking that we can climb a ladder when in reality these people are just selected and given certain there were supposed to be certain characters. You're supposed to pretend like you're the head of a tech company and you're supposed to be super weird and quirky. I'm going to cast you into that role and then we're going to call you a genius and you're supposed to pretend that you're this super financial guru like Jeffrey Epstein, and we're going to put you at the head of a finance company. You know, you have no background in this. That's kind of the theme that I'm seeing. Anyways, I don't want to waste too much more time because I do want to bring on Mitch, who apparently has what I would describe as, I don't know if it's the best or the worst luck ever in life, stumbling upon the feds when there may be up to no good. Mitch, welcome to my podcast. It's so great to have you here. I'm doing very well. I, I obviously you know the story of how I instantly got the email from one of your friends that just said, you should call Mitch after I prayed and said, I'm missing a piece of this. Please God, give me a piece of the story. And the first email I see when I get back from church on a day of holy obligation is this email. And so, Mitch, my audience is up to date on what happened to you when you were 20 years old. And I'm wondering if you can just sort of briefly recap in case I got some things wrong. Marshall Spires are hustling hard to get amazing new gifts into stores right up to the last minute. Like a designer perfume for that friend who never RSVP'd wishlist topping toys for her kids who came too. Belgian chocolates for the neighbor. A cozy scarf for your boss and a wool jacket for your husband that you definitely did not almost forget. Marshalls, we get the deals, you give the good stuff, even at the last minute. Find a Marshall's near you.

[B]

Oh, wow. Briefly recap. 35 years. Sure. Yeah, we, we were part of a mission going down to, down to the border of JTF6, assigned from 10th Mountain. Previously there had been a Marine Corps unit there. Apparently they had an incident, we had to replace them. They wanted a less, less kinetic unit to be involved. So we went down there in a matter of a few days, you know, and I was the youngest guy on the team and for the first few days I, I got assigned to have to, you know, do the hard work of putting in the sensors and following one of the border patrol who was on a, he was on horseback, got to learn a little bit about picking up signs in the desert, stuff like that. While we were placing these sensors down, it took a few days. I think we put in like 80 sensors or so along the border. And we were getting some. They thought it was some glitch signals coming back. Being that I had just gone through the course, I had the most updated information. And what we realized is they weren't, they weren't glitched signals that these people were being sent out for. It was subterranean. And once when I got pulled back to the JTF6 headquarters, they were in discussions of, of trying to remove the army. In case your viewers don't understand, when units get put together like this, especially this mission, there's a lot of contention even to this day between the army and Border Patrol and who gets to take credit and who gets to stay, who gets to go. And back then the War Patrol, I, I think they just wanted us out of their hair. So they were having some sort of a big meeting and a big do not disturb meeting. And I got assigned to the skeleton crew to sit back on the sms, excuse me, the receiver. And I was looking at the data while the skeleton crew of the Border patrol was left there with me as well. And he was giving me a bad time about the army equipment and how they were being sent out for. For no reason. And he kept giving me a bad time about it. So we were looking at the data and we started discussing things and, and I brought up the fact that, you know, I asked if there was any subways or something like that around, and between the two of us, the light bulb went on that. Yeah, it was a. Yeah, it was an underground tunnel. And within minutes we could triangulate the, triangulate the signals and be able to pinpoint the location. And that's the information I got to hand off. So, no, I didn't, you know, like go on the raid itself. Handing that information off was, was the probable cause they needed to be able to go get a warrant, go to the location, and also communicate with the Mexican authorities on the other side to perform a raid. And yeah, that's what, that's what happened.

[A]

Now you're thinking, amazing. We have found the biggest cartel tunnel. There had never been one bigger previously discovered. I, I presume maybe there had been. I'm. And there, I don't know, I'm just. I'm going to become a hero. Maybe you're thinking, this is going to be great. And the exact opposite thing is true. And it's because they eventually find pictures of. Well, was it an American lieutenant colonel who. Exactly. Sorry, I know you told me this. Was it a colonel?

[B]

One of the commanders that was with the Border patrol was actually Posed with a photo that was found on the Mexican side after the tunnel apparently had been built along with other Mexican military and US Military. So there had been some collaboration prior to us getting there. There had been some. A lot of suspicion that the federal government knew that 80%, I think it was 60 to 80% of the cocaine was coming through the Douglas, Arizona area. That's basically Region 6, or that's why they called it JTF6. So they knew all the cocaine's coming through this one area. But the local authorities back then, you know, came up with shrugs like, you know, oh, we just don't see where it's coming from. So they suspected there was some. There was some, you know, compromise of. Of officials down there. So, yeah, we. We went to work and. And it didn't take us long to pinpoint this. So when they recovered that data and they recovered the photos, obviously they had some of the top names of. Of who was helping out on the US Side to help build the tunnel and also keep it functioning for at least six months, judging by the date on the photo.

[A]

So I just wanted to ask you your attachment to. Because I'm trying to figure out why you're going to then go back to Fort Huachuca. Is that where you were initially trained?

[B]

Yeah, I was.

[A]

Okay, so you were initially trained on Fort Huachuca. What then ends up happening is they put you. You're basically. You're not allowed to talk. You just get gagged for. Is it 25 years? The gag order lasted while they destroyed every layer of your life, fed your name to the cartels. You've been on the run, you've had to change your name, your family is now in debt, you've been fighting lawsuits, trying to get the government to, I guess, defend you against the cartel gangs. And clearly they're angry because you stepped on their toes, it looks like. I think that's a fair depiction of what happened here, which we are learning more and more. How corrupt and our. I think the CIA was created to traffic. To be clear, that's. That's my opinion there. But you. They effectively destroyed your life and gagged you in in the process. Is that a fair assessment of what happens next?

[B]

Yeah, it is. I could probably go into some detail that while we were down there, you know, I got to. Got the honor of incinerating all the. It was about a ton of cocaine and a bunch of guns, bunch of money. And then right afterward, we went right back to work, and I ended up getting approached with a friend at noca. Arizona, not a friend, but another border patrol agent. And if it wasn't for him, I was too stupid. I didn't understand why this person was coming up or why they had personal information on me. I. I was a young kid. It was the border patrol agent that caught what it was about. And, yeah, thank God he. He knew what to do. Took me back to base, and they thought it was, you know, something I did to give away my identity. So I was on base for. It was the next day that I got brought into a briefing, and by that time, the photos from the Mexican side had made their way to the American side, and they were able to put together how my information got. Got fed to the other side. As far as cartels and stuff like that, I. You know, it's just plain corruption at this point. It's. It's. And it's thick. And, yeah, they have followed me. There's been. I've had people come through my windows, and it's not like. I know these are. It's, like, fantastical stories. We got the court documents. We got the. We got the court cases.

[A]

You've sent them to me.

[B]

It's not just that we have those. It's that the work that was done to even try to bury those afterward is pretty substantial. And, yeah, I've got 20 years of this. And you think. You know, one would think that somebody in the federal government would care or in any part of our government would care. The more I've gone up the chain to try and, you know, get more of these records as well as get answers to this saga. It just seems like I step on more and more toes, and eventually that's what led me to going down to Fort Huachuca was just to get the original records and find out, you know, why wasn't the FBI updated as what my status was and, you know, why has this been allowed to. Yeah. Basically use our own laws against me to attack my life. I feel I wanted answers.

[A]

When I hear this story, it makes me. It makes me so angry because it's just too many people that are serving our country only to figure out that our country is serving some other, you know, the interests of oligarchs, truly. And I think we're kind of all coming to that moment right now and recognizing that it hasn't been left or right. It has been them. A unique gang of oligarchs and criminals that are running every aspect of our lives, and they would gladly have you die for them. And could they. They couldn't care less. I Want to pivot now? So you're, they put you, there's this gag order or you know, non disclosure agreement and it is 25 long years and it happens to 35, pardon me, 35 years. You're told, yeah, you can suffer, the cartels can chase you, change your name, but you keep your mouth shut about it. And finally in May, this of this year, this, this, it expires, right? This, this gag order expires. And you say to yourself, I am going to go down to that base where I was trained. I'm going to go down to Fort Huachuca, book myself into a hotel. I'm going to go to the criminal division, the investigative division. I'm going to get that original paperwork and get some answers to why my, I feel that my life has been effectively ruined for me having done what I was ordered to do by the government. So you get to the base and I want you to address this because there were so many people who were like, there's no way you could have gotten onto the base. Obviously you sent me your military cards and I think we can show a picture of that. You get onto the base and I want you to walk us through what time. And I did show a timeline, but about, you know, you don't have to be perfect here. We already showed a timeline. But like you get to the base and just kind of, what's your general mood? And this is on September 8th, the evening of September 8th, at the Candlewood Inn and Suites, which you have given me all the documentation for.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, getting into Tucson, there was a little bit of a issue getting the rental car and stuff. So that took a little while, a little bit of a delay, but we made reservations ahead of time for me to be there. And yeah, I get down to the base. For those that think that people can't get on base. No, typically you can, as long as you have your, your id, your insurance and you have a purpose for being there. I certainly did.

[A]

You can show that documentation as he's speaking. I'm sorry, go ahead.

[B]

So, yeah, we made, made reservations and I got to the hotel. I had to. It was sort of hard to find, but once I found it, I sort of recognized it because it was, that was actually the barracks that I had when I was there in AIT training, but they converted it. So. Yeah, that was pretty cool. All of a sudden staying in the same barracks. Really nice place, by the way, wonderful beds. But yeah, I check in and as I'm doing that, you can tell that there's Regular military people, young kids that are there probably just checking into post, stuff like that. There were a couple people that, that stood out and they're a little bit older and, and as I'm checking in, one guy that was sitting on the couch, he just had a sheen to him. Looked like he had a professional military sheen to him. If I had to guess, you know, being a Special Forces guy, I would have guessed that he's ex Special Forces, probably doing, you know, something down there, probably contract. He was definitely waiting on something.

[A]

And age about, just so we can get a description age.

[B]

You know, I'd say 30, 33 to 40. About there, give or take. You know, I wasn't there to check out people or check ID cards. I just happen to know him and veterans, especially SF guys, when you notice somebody like that. I almost had the impression, so much so that I was going to go up and ask him what group he was with and say hi and thank him for his service. I didn't really get that chance. So as I'm checking in and then I go to my room and then come back out, he was joined and joined by a female that you can, you can definitely tell when. How do you put it? When people are well off and they're dressing down. She was definitely dressing down and it was very well kept. The one thing I noticed about the woman that really stuck out to me was, was her eyes. And I have an ex that has caused me a lot of problems. So when I see someone with, with striking blue eyes like that, they stick out. And I even. I was on the phone with my, with my wife here and, and I even told her about it. I said, oh geez, somebody has those kind of eyes. It creeped me out a little bit, you know, and had nothing to do with that person. Just, you know, life is what it is. But as I was checking in, they, I was going to go back and actually talk to that person, the, the guy. And yeah, they. Between me at the front desk and then going back to my room one time and then coming back out, I was going to go to dinner. Yeah, they had gotten into. There was a vehicle parked out front, big green truck. It looked like a real shiny GSA type. And yeah, they were getting into that vehicle and, and driving off. And that night I went to dinner at some. A little bit crazy that people in Sierra Vista, they can probably verify there was a Mexican. Oh, Mexican sushi place in Sierra Vista. So I got dinner and, and it was a pretty good place actually. And then I came back and went to sleep that night, got up early the next morning, wanted to see the sunrise, reminisce about, you know. Yeah, there we go. Just reminisce about having been there a long time ago and even stopped to talk to some of the police. They tried to give me directions to, to cid, but the buildings there are, they're sort of old World War II, and they're also built on top of the foundations of like almost Alamo era rocks and stuff. And some of them aren't really well marked. So his direction sort of led me off on a wild goose chase.

[A]

And I'll interject here, while you're having a sip of water, that this is when you accidentally take a video and it's 18 minutes long while this guy's giving you directions, which you've also, you've sent everything over. So there's no question you were here and everything happened because you tried to document this, thinking you were going to get some justice from the past. And, and I will let you continue telling the story.

[B]

Yeah, I was there to get help and I was really figuring some people would have a. Yeah, I have some answers for me. I couldn't find cid, but as I'm wandering around and I finally decided, you know, I need to get some coffee and wake up, maybe have a little breakfast, I noticed that there's some signs there that say JTF and, and JTF headquarters. I went in a couple of the buildings, there was nobody there yet, so I continued on. I went and got coffee, ran into some 10th Mountain people there. They said they were there for JTF. You know, we, we sort of talked. I bought them coffee, I think for their service. They sort of. I asked where there would be a headquarters that I could go to, to, to speak to someone. They tried to explain it to me, I forget. They gave me a building name. And I don't necessarily want to, we don't want to disclose that kind of stuff, but I went right back to the front gate and as I came in, I, as they scanned me in with my ID card. Yeah, I asked the gate guard there where, you know, where would this building be and how would I get there? He gave me detailed instructions on how to get there, how to wind around to get to that building. And so I did. And it was obviously a temporary setup for this new command down there. There was no gate guard. There was. I, I think they did have some barbed wire around the, the field in the building, which made me hesitate for a second. But there was a, it was a parking lot So I, I just went in and parked. I was on the phone with my Mrs. Here and told her, you know, we'll see how it goes, we'll see what they say here and I'll, I'll call you in a few. I ended up not being able to call it back for about seven hours. And you can, being in the military for a while, you, you notice when there's a lot of high ranking people around and you notice when there's a little bit of a buzz. And I, I walked in there.

[A]

I.

[B]

Didn'T know if it, if this was just a new type of army that I haven't seen for a while. But I walked up to the front desk, I sort of told him what I wanted. I initially talked to one captain for about five minutes and then he stepped back out. He was going to go get someone. I stood there at the front and as I did, the guy that I thought was next, SF guy, he had walked out from, from wherever it was and he was sort of walking out to the, to the front doors and he stood there for a while waiting. And then three more people came, came around, civilian dressed and one, he looked like a congressman. Had the pin, had the flag, you know, congressman suit. And there were a couple of people next to him and obviously they were trying to talk to him and they were sort of paling around, but it was also sort of serious. And some of the military lieutenant colonels there and the, and the unit sergeant major escorted them out. They got into one of the GSA's. For anybody in the military that knows about GSA, it's the, they own everything in the government. Could you.

[A]

Sorry for those of us who don't know about this gsa, just to, to break it down for us, I'm sorry to be so ignorant. What does that stand for?

[B]

No, what was Government Services Administration or. Okay, I forget what it is.

[A]

No worries.

[B]

What they, they basically maintain all the property for the U.S. for the federal government.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So if you're in the military or if you're in federal government and you need a vehicle, basically you, you go to one of the GSA places and it's like renting a vehicle at Enterprise or something, but you have orders attached to it. Some of those vehicles there, they're reserved at any GSA where they have VIPs that come in for those in the know, they, they keep a reserve set of vehicles and they're extra shiny. They're, they're like new off the lot. You know, their tires aren't worn very well, so they all got into one of those vehicles and they. They left. The sergeant major came back in him, and I was. I was teasing him about his tabs and how he didn't have his long tab. And I think he had a ranger tab. And airborne or. No, he didn't have airborne, he had aerosol. Anyway, I was teasing him about some of that. Was supposed to go back and talk to him. I was finishing signing in when, yeah, a couple more captains came around the corners and they escorted me way out. They wanted to take me out of the building. I thought I was getting arrested and I didn't know what I had done wrong. Yeah, I'd give my name, the missions I had been attached to. I give them the purpose, why I was there. So. And I was very polite about. I was trying to be discreet as possible, and I had no idea what I was walking into. Obviously, you know, when congressmen are around, there's something special going on. But. Yeah, they escorted me out across the parking lot to the park benches there. And me, one of the captains there, his name was Captain Neff. Nice guy. Yeah. And I started telling him my story, what I'm telling you and. And what I was there for. Yes, that's the guy. Real decent gentleman. And as we sat there, the other captain went in, was going to get the sergeant major. And I don't know exactly what happened, but before long, there was a bunch of cruisers pulling up. There were police officers from different levels of the government. I couldn't tell you all the different types of law enforcement that were there, surrounding me and sort of putting up a wall between me and. And the front door. I did catch that there was yet another. I don't know if it was the same GSA vehicle returning or a different one, but that did pull up to the building. I couldn't see who got in it, and it ended up sort of a big deal. They kept interrogating me, trying to gaslight me, ask me if I would, what I was there for. Like I was some sort of a spy. I. Yeah. And then they mentioned a bomb threat. They wanted to check my vehicle, mentioned that because I was in Special Forces, obviously I must be some sort of a bomb threat. And for me, I just figured this had to be some sort of the false flagging that. That I've encountered from before, some sort of residual effect from that.

[A]

You're just thinking, you know, this has got something to do. This has been 35 years running. The government's corrupt. It's all about me finding this Cartel tunnel. And this is just going to be the story of my life, never getting any justice. That's what's going through your mind at this point?

[B]

Yeah, people, you know, people in the government start pointing guns at me. My houseman squatted and stuff like that. I, I just roll my eyes. I literally.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

I was just throwing my car keys out. They wanted my car keys. I, I chucked it over. I said, yeah, if you don't mind, park it closer because my bones are getting old and it hurts. I don't want to walk that far.

[A]

So sad.

[B]

So Captain Nuff was really nice and I asked him what this was about. He, he tried to shrug it off and say he didn't know. There was another lady that seemed to be conducting the, what this overreaction was, and she was definitely, you know, she was in plain clothes undercover, big sunglasses, Hispanic woman. Right. You know, if I had to guess, probably Secret Service or something like that. She didn't want to approach me directly. She was, she was directing how other people would approach me and ask me questions, get my documents, stuff like that. Eventually they said, okay, we're going to take you to another location. They took me to. They finally showed me where the CID building was, I guess put me in there and, and they recorded me for a while, asked me a few questions and were, they were very, very concerned about the next 24 hours, like they wanted, they wanted to make sure, I don't know, maybe that I wasn't there for some other purpose or related to something. It was, it was pretty odd. They didn't answer any of the questions I was there for. They didn't give me the documentation. They did give me a report number to go out and, and you, you went ahead and I gave that to you.

[A]

You did.

[B]

We'll see what that says. But yeah, they were looking for any excuse to try and hold me up for like 24 hours. And that 24 hour number kept getting repeated by them and then eventually they didn't have anything hold me. I wasn't a harm to myself or others. I wasn't there to, you know, spying on anybody. I really just wanted to get records and, and get out of that desert. As reminiscent as it was, the place creeps me out a little bit. So, yeah, once they said, you have to stay off base for 24 hours, I was, don't worry about it. I ain't coming back. Got the Tucson, stayed the night there in a hotel. Never got a refund on my Candlewood Suites. But. Yeah, got on the plane and before we touched down, I had a stop off in Salt Lake City. By the time we wheeled down that, you know, we got the news about Charlie Kirk. And of course, that's been just all over the. All over the. All over the news. Everybody's watching it. And, you know, I don't think anybody's believing what the federal government's saying about it, for sure. But what I noticed, I don't know, these people from tpusa, never been associated. I could recognize Charlie Kirk, probably. But what I started seeing come across and got more familiar once I saw a picture of somebody in a ponytail with those eyes. That was that person. They were there. And, yeah, the head of security there. He was one of the people walking out with the congressman. Now, how would I know that? I. I just. I just have a gift for recognizing people. And, yeah, maybe it's not him, maybe as doppelganger, but somebody with the same mannerisms, the same crick in his neck, face, the waxy look on his face, hand gestures, shoulder shrug, gait, approximate height, haircut, definitely walk past me.

[A]

And if you had to put it at a percentage that you were looking at Brian Harpole, maybe he's got a brother in the military, who knows, right? Maybe he does have a doppelganger. He's got a twin brother, who knows. And I want to be clear. I can confirm on this podcast live, every step of your story in terms of where you went, what time you were there, that there was this big meeting that happened. I've confirmed the location with other people that are. That are on Fort Huachuca currently. I can confirm everything with metadata. I obviously can't confirm that you saw who you say you saw. If you had to put it at a percentage that you saw Brian Harpel, what percentage would you put it at?

[B]

95.

[A]

95.

[B]

Okay, 95 to 99. I mean, I. When I saw him, you know, on the interview with the. With his face and gestures, I. Yeah, with that photo, it struck me in my gut. I blew it off until there was, you know, some other pictures that came up with other people.

[A]

What other people? Other pictures?

[B]

If you want me to say it, there's a picture of Erica Kirk with a ponytail. And from. From her past, that person matches who I saw at Fort Huachuca in the lobby the night before, and she was with that. With that man in the lobby. And that man, he was present at that meeting the next morning.

[A]

You had to put it at a percentage that you saw that the girl in the ponytail matches the description of Erica Kirk, what percentage would you put that at?

[B]

Those are really rare eyes. That's 95, 99%. I. I can't imagine somebody else.

[A]

Okay, so what I'm going to say, because obviously this. That's very explosive, and it's. It's one of the reasons why I wanted. I wasn't sure if I wanted to have you on. I'm going to be honest with you because I. Gosh, I mean, I guess I'll tell you the conflict that I had and just be just as honest with you as you are being with me. The first thing was, I can't confirm it, right. I can confirm where you were. I can do all of that, but I can't confirm what you think you saw. I don't know you. I don't know. There are people like my husband, who. We can see someone once, and he recognizes that person ten years later, exactly where we saw them, and they're people like me. And I kind of have facial blindness until I meet someone three times. The second thing was, I didn't want people to wrongly extrapolate things and say, okay, well, maybe she was on the base. Maybe she. What? There's a chance she wasn't on the base, right? That she has a doppelganger. People do have doppelgangers. I have doppelgangers. Right. Well, let's say she wasn't the base. Let's say you're right, and you saw her. This is the night before. This is on the 8th. Maybe she was in the hotel, but maybe she was there for a different reason. Maybe she was there because she's always been open about the fact that her mother moved to Arizona because she got involved with the military. So that could be totally unrelated to the meeting that took place on the 9th. And I didn't want to, but then I said to myself, I am. This man has lived through so much. You know what I mean? This man has lived through so much, and I would be turning my back on this, really? A hero discovering the cartels, who's lived through so much and has been treated like the government. And then I struggled with my own soul going, I'm turning my back on him because I'm afraid of backlash for allowing him to tell the truth. And so. And my soul was in conflict. And I decided that, you know what? I am not. This is not my platform, okay? I genuinely believe this is God's platform. I am a conduit. I don't know why I have a platform, and I don't know why you have this luck in life. I really don't. I don't know why these things happen to you or why they happen to me, but I know that my prayer was very intentional that night that I received that email. So I'm going to allow the Internet to hear your testimony, hear what you think. And I also want to show them a picture because we did look through some congressmen and I didn't tell you where they were congressmen from, but there is one that you thought looked familiar. And I am going to show that picture of him now. This is. And Skyler, someone's got to get in my ear because I'm blanking on his name. Mark Amodi. Is that right? Mark Amodi from Las Vegas. And you thought that this could potentially be the congressman that you saw on the 9th?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

What percentage? That's the one that walked closest to you.

[B]

That's 95. I'm absolutely. You know, after I've looked at it, that's. Yeah, that was definitely the guy.

[A]

Okay. Now, we have then been able to look at flights and look at who could have been at that meeting. We were able to confirm based on a call sign that there was somebody heavy duty that was at Fort Huachuca Air, Fort Huachuca pardon, on that morning who made sure to turn off their transponder. So we are the clues. The picture is coming together that you saw what you saw. Then that call sign did change at a certain time, which lets us know that then it could have been moved to a congressman. There could be a chance that that person they were blocking you from seeing when they all lined up might have been someone that is. It could be Kash Patel. I mean, I have. It could be Cash Patel. That's someone who could have a call sign. We've been running ideas. It could also not be him. And I want to be clear. I do think you saw. I think. I think that is the reason they surrounded you was to make sure you couldn't see he was walking out. I think your instincts are right on that. And I don't know what to say other than I know what you are going to go through now. And I want you to know that you have an ally with me. And I know how much you are already going through fighting them. And I intend to help you raise money to go through these lawsuits with the federal government. I know this is not easy. I know what your kid has been through. I know what your wife has been through. And no one should have to be through this. Have to go through this because they told the truth and potentially stumbled upon something corrupt, did definitively stumble upon something corrupt. And I think the public will be with you because they see what I'm going through right now, being sued by a transatlantic president overseas for just trying to tell the truth. And I just want you to know that, like, I know that this is hard for you and given everything you've been through, but, like, I am here with you. I'm going to fundraise money for you and I'm here for you and your family through whatever comes next.

[B]

Oh, boy, that's really wonderful. I've told you. Thank you. I'd like to see justice. I'd like to see our government being honest again or some level. I don't know why I was there or why I got to see what I did or how I happened to walk in on something I wasn't there to. You know, obviously I didn't know what was going to happen the next 24 hours. It seems coincidental that that was the number they kept bringing up and whatever they were doing, it was important and they didn't want any. Anybody looking at it. And okay, the military does that stuff. That's. That's what they do. I thank you, you know, for everything. But really, after hearing some of the other stuff, hearing about some of the threats against you and I. And I do. I watch some of the other podcasters. Valhalla really good guy. Even if he. He gave me a bunch of. A bunch of crap about stuff. Fellow brother there from first group. No, he. He had. When he interviewed the French Foreign Legion, he and he got to learn a little bit about sometimes how in the intelligence world, how things cross over and other countries are a little bit dirtier and they borrow resources from us for Huachuk is one of those places. They would have to have done that. And when I. I had. I had to pray myself and beyond. I. I tried to. I just wanted to give.

[A]

So good, so good, so good. Score holiday gifts. Everyone wants for way less at your Nordstrom Rack store. Save on Ugg, Nike, Rag and Bone, Vince Frame, Kurt Geiger, London and more.

[B]

Because there's always something new.

[A]

I'm giving all the gifts this year with that extra 5% off when I use my Nordstrom credit card. Santa who join the Nordy Club at Nordstrom Rack to unlock our best deals. It's easy. Big gifts, big perks. That's why you rack.

[B]

I just wanted to give you a tip since you're pulling on these threads and I had no idea that you were going to do all this.

[A]

I want you to know There were literally 51,000 emails unanswered in that box. And I went to church and I prayed and I said, give me something. And it was the first email, just like I said to you. I mean, what did I call four minutes after the email was sent and it was actually me. I didn't send it to my producer. I was just like, hey, maybe this is it. And I can't help but to see God in that and not, you know, God as in people being trained in intelligence to make us think that everything is holy, but rather, truly, I saw God in that. And, yeah, it just. It just. It's. It's stunning. It's. It's hard not to see God in something like that, happening in that order. So I don't know what comes next. But you know that, like, you have an ally. Me. And I will. I'm a. I hope you see that. I am a fighter. And when I see good people and bad things happen to them, I will fight. And same for the people that watch this podcast. They are. They are. They are fighters as well, so. And they've had my back, and they will have your back. I promise you that.

[B]

I really appreciate that. There are a lot of people in the military who. We see things. I'm sure there's people down at Fort Huachuca and other places that have seen things, and. And there's a lot of people that stay quiet to stay nice, to. To, you know, not be in conflict. And I had to pray. This doesn't help. This doesn't help my situation at all. It's going to aggravate it, I'm absolutely sure. And. But the truth matters, and that's why we wanted to send this up to you. We had no idea all of a sudden you'd be calling us. That was. You really interrupted our gym time, by the way, and we really need it. Typically, I try to lap things off quite a bit, but things are getting quite serious, and I think Baron Coleman, he gets it, Keep pulling those threads, and I hope you stay safe.

[A]

And same to you. And like I said, I'm going to put together a fundraiser for you imminently. And this obviously is just the first conversation we're having. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, not just for sharing what happened, and I do believe you are a missing piece of this. I also want to thank you for your service. I want to thank you for trying to do what our government should be doing, which is stopping the cartels and not partnering with them. And so just thank you for your military service and all that you've gone through.

[B]

Thank you Ms. Holmes. Thank you Candice.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

We will be thank you also.

[A]

Thank you guys. We will be right back. You guys. I'm going to let Mitch sign off here and then I will answer some of your questions after some sponsors Good news you guys. The Fed dropped rates for the fourth time this year. And if you're a homeowner, you should call American Financing today because you could be saving real money every month. High interest debt is crushing budgets across the country, but homeowners who act now are using their equity to wipe it out. American Financing customers are saving an average of $800 a month with some getting rates in the low fives, which is a massive difference compared to credit cards that are charging 20% or more. You can speak with a salary based mortgage consultant and find out exactly what you qualify for. There are never any upfront fees. To find out how much you could be saving, move quickly and you could even delay two mortgage payments which puts cash back in your pocket immediately. So call American Financing today. The sooner that you act, the quicker you could be saving. Call 800-795-1210, that's 800-795-1210 or visit american financing.net Owens american financing.net Owens and of course I'm going to remind you guys about Neeme Skin Care because it's cold outside, December's here, the weather's dry. If you're anything like me, your skin is definitely feeling it. This is a time of year when we all need a little extra help keeping our skin moisturized, healthy and glowing. And let me just say this, I love what Neeme Skincare is doing this Christmas season. Because while other brands are tiptoeing around eggshells trying to be inclusive with their Happy Holidays messaging, Neemi is not doing that at all. Their entire website is decked out for Christmas. Bright, joyful, unapologetic. And I could not be more here for it. Now if you are wondering what I am personally using right now, my skin can get dry pretty fast in the winter. So I've been using Neemi's Sunshine Tallow Cream paired with Buzzing Tallow Balm. And honestly, my skin has never felt softer. There's no dryness, no cracking, just rich moisture that lasts all day. Their formulas are clean, simple and they work. And yes, they make incredible gifts for the women in your life who appreciate great skin care and American made values, especially Moms, sisters, daughters, grab a few and you will thank me later. So here's the deal. Use code candace10 and you'll get 10% off your [e-mail] Again, that's nimiskincare.com don't wait. Get your skin the care that it needs this winter. Treat yourself, grab a couple of gifts and support a brand that actually stands for something this Christmas season. Well, you guys, this is normally the part of the show where I push things that I am selling on the website. But what I'm going to say to you instead is that I will get together a give send go for Mitch and his family. Like I said, I've seen the legal paperwork. He, they, they've endured hell. They've endured hell and he's been enduring that hell because he did his job. It sickens me. Our government sickens me. People telling me that I need to worry about midterms when there's just so much corruption that is happening and good men that are being persecuted while bad men are being protected. So I wanted to just basically say that you, if you look on all my socials, I'll make sure that I get a fundraiser out for Mitch and his family and hopefully we can help them with some of the legal costs that they have endured. Curbster writes, we stand behind you, Mitch and your family just as much as we stand behind. Oh, we stand behind you, Mitch and your family just as much as we stand behind Candace. Thank you for your service and continued bravery and resolve. Despite our government not doing the same for you. May God continue to protect you and use you to reveal the truth. That's very, I'm sure that's going to make them cry. I know that they were in tears from all the messages of support that they got the first time around when I, when I just shared their story. Madeline writes, thank you Candace for keeping me sane these last hundred or so days. I still cannot believe that Charlie is not among us. But thank you for trying to find who really did this to him and for helping us all get through it. Like I said, this feels like the, like there's nothing more important than getting to the bottom of this because the implications are so far reaching and for me it is. I just haven't. I don't care about politics anymore. I just don't care. And I do believe that our government was involved in this. Our government is involved in the COVID up. And the people that would have to. Okay, that would be the very people that Charlie fought for. He fought for them. To get into office. Sleepless nights fighting for those people to be in office. And so like I've said over and over again, I don't care about your midterms. I just don't care about your midterms. I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk and I want to know why. I want to know why he had to die. Martin Box writes, thank you for being my compass throughout the last few months and helping me to gauge right from wrong. Christ is king indeed. Christ is king. Bitsy Figurino writes, I recognize the psychological religious operation going on since Trump was elected. It's been wild to watch. Christ called us to be peacemakers. I would like to help with Preborn. I'm in Arizona and I'm also an ultrasound tech. They know they will know us by our love. Please reach out to Preborn. They do fantastic work and you are right to recognize that they were also gaslighting us about that. And I was saying like there are so many of these people that have very high up military and military, military connections who are have these platforms and all they do is they focus on the Bible. And I'm telling you there's something wrong. There's just something that is wrong. And you can kind of see the mask slip now because these people purport to care about what happened to Charlie and the easiest thing is to demand truth and instead they're protecting people like Josh Hammer. This is like such an obviously bad person. He lied. And they'll go out of their way to protect those individuals. That's a psychological operation. That's not the truth. And it's actually in many ways the most sadistic of all psychological, psychological operations. Because what they're doing is they are asserting themselves as the, we are the most literate in scripture so we can tell you whether or not your soul is going to be condemned if you listen to this person or you don't listen to this person. It is, it makes me sick. Like I said, I hold the most contempt for, for those that hold up the Bible as they criticize people knowing fully well that they could care less about what's in the Bible and they just want to take swipes and attack somebody and feel justified in doing it. It's so, it's so arrogant and it's, I think it's also tremendously evil because there are people that follow you and they are true Christians. Namari Valimar writes, those who have been watching every single episode would not abandon ship. Do not lose hope, but place your trust in Christ alone. The Holy Spirit will bring discernment. That is true. And I think that's what this has been a story of. We all have spiritual discernment, right? We are feeling things on a spiritual level. And we are having people that think they can replace our spirit with garbage. And just like, well, enough of us will say this and then it will be true. We'll just keep saying, Tyler Robinson. We'll just keep saying the evidence is overwhelming and we'll somehow hijack the spirit. And this time we're saying no. Ivan writes, the more haters, the more we know that you are on track. Go, Max. Candace again. Guys, I'm going to jump off because we are over time here, but you will be hearing more from me on my socials. I will put up a give send go for Mitch and his family. We will obviously be giving in a big capacity and I hope that you guys will join me in doing that. We'll see you guys tomorrow. And Doug, here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual.

[B]

Fascinating.

[A]

It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug. Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[B]

Cut the camera.

[A]

They see only pay for what you [e-mail] savings. Very underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company and affiliates. Excludes Massachusetts.