D (3:12)

I used to be known as Charlie Kirch, pastor. Now I'm known as Mikey McCoy's dad.

E (3:16)

He clicked into gear eventually. It was amazing. Mikey was a heroic figure on that day.

A (3:24)

Amazing, heroic. He was brilliant. It stood out to me, really, because it's only Mikey that they moved to do it for. And objectively speaking, okay, I don't care what your experience in life is. I would not move to insist that someone was quote unquote, heroic for walking away from their friend after he was shot. Okay? I just wouldn't. That wouldn't be the adjective that came to my mind. Heroic. I also don't feel the need ever to qualify any of my friends with an adjective. Think about how strange it would be if on this show, every time I cover Tucker Carlson, I was like, the spectacular Tucker Carlson. The breathtaking Tucker Carlson is under attack in this moment. You'd be like, why are you doing that? Why do I feel like you're trying to program me? This only made me more interested in Mikey and the McCoy story. And I want to be super clear here. No innuendo. I don't think that. I know that Mikey McCoy did not kill Charlie Kirk. We watch him in those moments. But it's also becoming pretty apparent to me that the stage was being set for Mikey to become the new Charlie. In fact, on stage at the memorial event for Charlie and elsewhere, they were trying to prime the public for that plausibility. Almost like it was this psychological operation Nod to Rob McCoy and his family lineage to see Mikey as capable of filling Charlie's shoes. Take a listen.

B (4:52)

Let me tell you something about Mikey. Mikey's been with Charlie for several years. He's 23 years old. He is wise beyond his years. And when that tragedy struck, Mikey was an absolute hero who kept everybody calm and did some of the most mundane things you would think you would need to do on the worst day of his life. And he continues to be a rock. He's been following Jesus for a long time. I'm hoping that Mikey one day will follow in Charlie's footsteps right to the college campus. Because he has the ability, the demeanor, the grace, the knowledge to do so.

F (5:34)

Set an example for the believers in speech and conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.

A (5:46)

Our speaker today, Mikey McCoy has done that.

F (5:50)

His path was pretty much like Charlie.

A (5:54)

Kirk's path, pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path. And he's got the grace and the wits and every. It's amazing. Okay. And if you're wondering why we also included Erica saying the amazing Mikey McCoy in her first speech, it's because Rob McCoy oddly refers back to Erica's speech when he is asked specifically what he believes Mikey's future is going to be at Turning Point usa. Okay, he's going to start. You're going to see. He's going to answ answer a question. The show is Faith, the Faith Forward Show. And he starts to answer the question, but then he sort of cuts himself off and he trails into a different topic, almost as if he catches himself. Take a listen.

E (6:35)

And then Mikey specifically, like, how he's going to kind of fit into that picture. Because when I'm seeing him speak, man, I'm like, dude, this Mikey is going to have a humongous role within this organization.

D (6:44)

So Charlie was an avid journal journaler, Very avid. And when Erica started opening up his journals after he was killed, she started reading Charlie Had a Plan all the way through 2028. Written out. Written out. I mean, there's an order of succession.

A (7:03)

And.

D (7:04)

And when. So when she comes out and she says the amazing. I think she said the amazing Mikey McCoy.

A (7:08)

McCoy.

D (7:09)

Yeah, they. And this is one of the things I would share with Mikey, I'd share with Charlie, and I learned it from Steve Smotherman, and Pastor Steve Smotherman said it. Charlie, in a. Where you're a public figure, you have very little private privacy.

A (7:30)

That was weird, right? That's a weird way to try to answer that question. What's he doing there? Is he trying to make us believe, but not explicitly state, but kind of explicitly state or maybe implicitly state that Charlie's future, or rather Mikey McCoy's future, was written by Charlie in one of these journals. That's what I was picking up. That's what I feel like he was throwing down. Let me know if I'm crazy. But that was a weird way to answer. And he's like, so when Erica comes out and she does the amazing Mikey McCoy, he talks about the journals. What's going on here? Now, I'm going to give you some data points to back this up. Now, I maintain that the wonderful Mikey McCoy doesn't strike me as intrinsically evil. Something Charlie used to always say to me is, the eyes are the window to the soul. I don't see this intrinsic evil when I look at Mikey McCoy's eyes, but however, I do think he was hyped. Okay. I think Mikey was promised or told or encouraged that he would become the new Charlie. And it is a fact that that was the number one sentiment that we received from our Turning Point USA insiders following Charlie's assassination. That the, you know, super califragilistic espialidocious Mikey McCoy appeared to have like an extra spring in his step that made them all a little bit uncomfortable in the aftermath, and that he seemed all too happy to assume Charlie's position. Look, he's already speaking at Liberty University. Why? Because he made some phone calls. That. That's. Have we lowered the standards for what makes somebody a hero in 2025? I don't know. And I will say that beyond the sentiment that was expressed to us from East Turning Point USA insiders, there are some interesting facts. Fact number one, for whatever reason, in the month, and I'm going to make sure that I address my timeline here, in the month leading up to Charlie's death, Mikey McCoy was interested in capturing some behind the scenes footage, more intimate moments of Charlie's life. And I'm going to give you two examples of that. Okay. Example number one, Charlie's very last overseas trip to Korea. This was four days before he died. For whatever reason, Mikey McCoy felt suddenly inspired to try his luck micing up Charlie and capturing him on the road. And he says this is the first time he ever did it. Take a listen to Mikey McCoy explain.

E (10:02)

That today is really fun because Mikey and Blake are going to talk about their last trip with Charlie to Asia. And Mikey, you are now in the driver's seat. The floor is yours.

A (10:12)

Yeah.

E (10:13)

It's crazy to think that was just three, four days before Utah.

A (10:17)

Crazy.

E (10:18)

It was Charlie's dream to always go to Asia. And Blake and I got the gift of being able to tag along for that. And so I brought the camera with me. I've never traveled with a camera before, but I decided it would be a good idea to mic Charlie up, do some content with him while we're there.

A (10:37)

Okay. That is remarkable. Obviously, for the first time, he decided to mic. That's not something that somebody does as a chief of staff. It's not something that somebody does in that role. Okay. I've traveled with Charlie everywhere. Very strange. The person that mics is always the AV person, and I would assume there were some AV people that were on hand given the trip. But anyways, that's not it. Okay. That's not just one point. That we have. And don't worry, because I'm going to show you after I've plotted all this into our timeline. Just a few weeks before Charlie died, Mikey McCoy and his wife Eliza, for the very first time. Now, this is according to Eliza McCoy. She shared that it was the first time ever that they went on vacation. Her and Mikey went on vacation with Erica and Charlie. Here's that post on Instagram. That second paragraph begins, we spent a few weeks together this summer. Our first family trip together. Okay. Getting real close there. And while they were on this very first time together for a couple of weeks vacation, something moved the McCoys to capture intimate and sweet moments of the Kirk family from behind the scenes. Now you know which footage I'm talking about. It's the footage that has since gone viral of Charlie walking with his children and Erica. Erica grabs his hand. It's actually a very sweet moment and it moved a lot of us. People were. I know I was crying when I first saw this footage a couple of days after Charlie died. Well, let me tell you guys something. Fortunately, the McCoys were the ones that captured that footage. See, my thing is, I need to know what moved them to do that is are they really just that extraordinary? Is it the extraordinarily lucky Mikey McCoy? Because I was thinking about it, because I have a big family and people with families know. And you can go through Charlie's Instagram, as I have done, there's always one person missing from intimate family moments. When they're on the fly, they're not planned. Right. There tends to be one family member missing. But because one person grabs the camera and you're capturing the kids with dad, or you're capturing the kids with mom, or it's just the kids, whatever it is. That's how family footage, when it's organic, tends to look. Right? And of course, on holidays, you get together, you stand up, you capture a picture. That is the pattern. If you go through Erica, Charlie's Instagram, Charlie's missing, or Eric is missing. And that's because they're filming each other. But thankfully, the McCoys were on hand in what looks like mid July or early August into early August, according to my sources. My sources. We will nail down these specific dates in the future. We are working on it. Okay. Strikes me as odd that Mikey is just picking up the camera and capturing these moments. I don't know. I don't know. For the first time ever, I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And if I'm in Erica's position. I'm starting to look at him funny, like, what's going on here? Okay, now let's bring in Daddy. McCoy. Wouldn't say he strikes me as something else entirely. And he similarly had some rather impeccable timing. Rob McCoy, as you very well know, was the senior pastor of the Godspeak Calvary Chapel in Thousand Oaks, California. You should also know, by the way, let me introduce this to you right now, because I didn't know that he was funded. His church was funded by the Wilkes brothers down in Texas. The Wilkes brothers are the ones that fund Daily Wire, were, you know, the initial seed money behind the Daily Wire. The initial seed. Not the initial seed money behind Prager U, but they majorly fund Prager University as well. So that's an interesting web that's being woven before our eyes. Right? You got Prageru and now you've got this. This church. And they are a part of what is described online as a cult. It's like Christians for Jews. I don't you look into it yourself? I honestly can't explain it, but that's just something that you should know in the background. Anyway, for whatever reason, after 17 years as the head pastor of that church, Rob McCoy, it was publicly announced in January of this year that he would be stepping down as the head pastor and instead assuming the role of pastor emeritus. Now, for the uninitiated, emeritus is basically just an honorific title, right? Bestowed upon someone after they retire from some distinguished position. For Rob McCoy, they had planned that transition. That transition took effect in mid July of this year. Okay, Mid July of this year is when he officially steps down from the church lot going on here in McCoy land. Now, in case you're thinking, well, that doesn't mean that he was doing all of that and transitioning because he was anticipating some bigger role at Turning Point USA and maybe therefore planning to wind down his life in California. No, actually, that's exactly the reason that was cited when it was reported on in January in the Ventura County Star. They wrote, quote, he's approaching a transition. In July, he'll step down as the senior pastor of Godspeak and hand the reins to his son in law, Micah Stevens, the church's administrative and worship pastor. McCoy will become the emeritus pastor and will still preach regularly at the church in a role that could last into the mid-70s. And then it goes on to say, when McCoy's responsibilities grew at Turning Point USA, he and his wife sold their home in Thousand Oaks and bought a home in the Phoenix area. Now, he said that he bought a different place in Thousand Oaks. He also owns a home in Coronado near San Diego. Now, what we can confirm to you is is that Rob actually put that secondary home in Coronado up for sale. On August 24, 2025 of this year, he listed his home up for sale. So suffice it to say that the Fantastic, heroic, sensational McCoys were pretty busy this summer. And I don't like it at all. I just don't like it. The vibes for me are not good. Now we can take a look at our timeline here. With these new moves added into it, we're going to start looking at 11th because that's when I think things reached some sort of a pinnacle. That's the infamous speech that Tucker Carlson gave where he calls out Bill Ackman. He starts talking about Israel, all this stuff, and things start moving. Okay. Now you can see on that's July 11th. And he says that people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of their citizenship. He muses about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from. July 18th is our next date on our timeline. And this came from. This is a great find from Sam Parker. That is when the Turning Point USA receives a request from UVU for Charlie to hold an event at Utah Valley. Not only do they instantly accept this request, but they also make it his first stop, which is incredible. We can listen to a news anchor, I think this is from Fox News Salt Lake City. Describe exactly when that request went out. As we're telling you, on July 18th. Take a listen.

G (17:42)

Utah Valley University has provided the document that created the rally at which conservative activist Charlie Kirk was shot to death. But it is not providing the security plan for that day. I'm Fox 13 investigative reporter Nate Carlisle. We've been asking UVU for records related to the September 10th Kirk rally. After about six weeks, this is the first record provided. It's the application submitted mid July by the UVU chapter of Kirk's Turning Point usa. The applicants answer standard questions about time, place and a description of the event. However, we notice there is one question not asked on the form. Whether organizers need any police protection. That's a standard inquiry at, for example, University of Utah events. Speaking of police, UVU has denied Fox 13 News request for a copy of the Kirk rally security plan. The university is citing the provision and state records laws keeping confidential, quote, security measures, end quote. The campus also has expressed concern that the records could interfere in any investigation and someone's right to a fair trial. Tyler Robinson is charged with Kirk's murder. FOX 13 plans an appeal of the denial and we are still pursuing a variety of records related to the Kirk shooting.

A (19:03)

Well, Fox 13 News, if I can be of any assistance, you just reach out to me because I've done a lot of these events and everything happening here is unusual. Okay. For them to honor a request. I mean, they get every university across all 50 states trying to get Charlie and I to speak. Okay, Just a request going in that late, being honored and becoming stop number one within a couple of weeks. I'm going to say that's never happened. I'm going to dig through my inbox. Okay, I'm going to dig through my inbox. I'm going to see what the normal security protocols are because as everybody has noticed, there was no ambulance on standby and that's against Utah law. And so it's interesting that they don't want to release the security plan because I'm pretty sure this was an extraordinary first time thing where they didn't have a security plan. And I had received a tip and I do want to check this out, by the way, that they also had initially slated for this event to be inside, but it was moved. Again, I have to look into that. I'm not confirming that, but if that's true as well, things are about to get very interesting. And guess what, guys, there's more. And this part is crazy. I guess it's not really crazy. I think I saw like Milo Yiannopoulos tweeted, I think now I think Israel did it. And that's because he was tweeting about the bizarre lie of them saying Erica Kirk was accepting this award and they completely fictionalized it. They've just been lying non stop quickly, right, right out the gate, BB Net and Yahoo doing propaganda rounds denying that he had anything to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Perfectly normal thing to do, right? Perfectly normal. For some reason I didn't feel compelled to do that. I didn't feel like I had to get on camera and make a statement that I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. But BB Net and Yahoo felt that he needed to do that. They needed. And all the sickle fans in America echoed that statement and nobody had accused them a thief runneth when no one pursueth. Right. Well, here's some explosive news for you that I can now beyond a shadow of a doubt confirm putting my name on this. Not only can I confirm this, but I can publicly challenge the very Zionist occupied Trump administration who is aware of this, to deny it to Come out and say, no, that's not true. Okay? And if Cash Patel is done crying about the mean tweets on the Internet regarding his sensational singing girlfriend, he can also certainly make the time of day to deny what I am saying if it is untrue. Right? Because this is pretty relevant. Now, I should say that some people had actually reported this earlier. Like, Mel, I've been telling you to follow her village crazy lady over on X. She was actually very early with this reporting, and I had heard rumors and rumblings, but I wanted to make sure that I had verifiable proof. Proof that I would go out on a limb, as I'm doing right now, and asserting that it is authentic and it is real. Ladies and gentlemen, there were, for whatever reason, 12 Israeli cell phones on the ground at Utah Valley University the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. This has completely spooked the people that are very high up in government. Now, to be clear, I don't mean that there were 12 VPNs that were switched and routed through Israel on that day. I mean that there were 12 personal cell phone accounts that were opened in Israel. Okay? Like you go into Verizon in Tennessee or in Connecticut, and you open your phone. I am saying that they opened their phones in Israel, those accounts in Israel, and they were on the ground on September 10th at Utah Valley University when Charlie was shot. Now, the NSA knows this. Cash Patel knows this. People in the current administration know that know this, and they are desperate for some reason to stop that information from being released to the public. Why? Because they're the most transparent administration ever. Is that why is this, like Jeffrey Epstein transparency that we're getting? Because that's what it feels like. It always seems that on the topic of this one nation that's only the size of New Jersey and has done nothing wrong ever, and was truly the greatest friend to Charlie right up until the very end, never put any pressure on him. Suddenly, everybody abandoned their values. True friends of Charlie Kirk, right? Standing on that stage, giving him a speech, hiding this. Now, what would be the reason that they wanted to keep that information under wraps? And why does it have people at the very top spooked? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide. Okay? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide. Now, let's play devil's advocate. And to be clear, we are now advocating for the devil when we do this. Maybe the cell phones belonged to some exchange students. It's possible. Maybe 12 Israelis were touring UVU on that day because I don't know, Utah Valley University is a place where they maybe wanted to attend in the future. Maybe. 12American students had Israeli based cell phones because they had just come back from a summer abroad program and they wanted to keep their Israeli cell phones running when they got back home to Utah. I don't know, but I'd like to know. In fact, we need to know the answer to this question. Why are they hiding misinformation? And why? And who did those 12 Israeli cell phones belong to? Okay, I don't like secrets. I don't like secrets. Especially when they pertain to the public execution of my friend Charlie Kirk. We'll take a break and we'll come right back. 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What does this feel like to you? What does this feel like to you? Sometimes I wish I was born yesterday, right? It would be so easy to just accept him. Like, oh yeah, I totally. There just was a lone shooter who, you know, had, had never really been hunted, but he got really lucky and he just fired this shot and he got, he never been to the campus, but he somehow knew how to scale the buildings. Running around like Spider Man. I wish I was born yesterday so I could just accept that. I do. Unfortunately, I wasn't born yesterday. I was actually born 36 years ago. And everyone is full of it. I am looking at a situation where Charlie was betrayed and is actively being betrayed every day by the very people that he helped to elect. The people that are in office. They are betraying him by trying to feed us this nonsense, okay? They are feeding us, they're, they're selling us crap and trying to tell us that it's food, right? Like this is nourishing or something. I just won't tolerate it, okay? And it is, I think one of the craziest things happening right now that these people are now telling us to shift gears and that it's our duty, right? It's our duty to make sure more of them get elected. Now there are a lot of people running around right now. There Are races important races, they tell us, going on in the country, consequential races that are happening. And people online are being somewhat accusatory upset that Republicans are infighting, if that's what you're calling this. I'm not fighting with you, okay? I'm going to see this thing all the way through. And that we're instead focused on using our platforms to fight one another rather than to encourage people to go vote so that Republicans can stay in power across various cities. You know, as just one example, of course, people really cannot stop speaking about the Mom Donnie versus the Cuomo mayoral race in New York. Now, Cuomo's already one of the most corrupt families in New York, and now they're like, no, switch gears because Mom Donnie is going to be worse. And it's your job as a good little Republican, okay, to go out there and to make sure that Mom Donnie doesn't win. And to those very many people, I would like to say no, I'm good, actually. I'm just not interested. I'm interested in nothing until you start telling the truth about what happened in Charlie Kirk. Until you acknowledge that a 3006 did not go through his neck, did not get stopped rather by his neck. Until you acknowledge that that story that you tried to sell us is complete bs. Something that could take down a moose somehow did not take down Charlie Kirk. Are you kidding me? Are you absolutely kidding me? I'm not interested in your races around the country. I'm not voting until this is resolved, okay? This is toxic. You are toxic. And it is unbelievably abusive to suggest that I have to now reinvest and work for the exact same party that told me that if I voted for them and got the word out for them, and I did do all those things, that things would be different. Corruption's gonna stop. We're gonna be the most transparent thing administration that you've ever seen. Except on those Epstein files. Yeah, I know he was like, abusing children, but what Epstein files were we even talking about? No. No. Thank you. No. Nope. Goodbye. Not doing it anymore. You're left versus right. Don't care anymore. There is power and there is the rest of us. There is power and there is the rest of us. And you are not going to convince me that any of this stuff is consequential after I just watched Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in his throat and am watching all of you lie about it. Okay, there's actually this vintage clip from trl. Remember Total Request live with Carson Daly. That perfectly embodies me and how I am feeling in this moment. So let's watch that vintage clip together.

C (31:33)

Hi, my name is Me and I live in Florida. Being a young black female and also a teen mother, what do you guys do to get back, give back to the community? Also directed mostly towards odb. I know Prague and the Fujis do things for the community, but what do you. What is going to be your thing for the community?

F (31:57)

Nothing.

A (32:06)

Don't get me wrong.

F (32:08)

Don't get me wrong now.

A (32:10)

Don't get me wrong, I send you.

F (32:12)

Love.

A (32:14)

To the Republicans. I send you love. Okay, don't get me wrong. I send you love. But what I will be doing for the broader community until you start telling the truth is nothing. Nothing. So don't even, don't, don't at me. I just don't care at all. Not even a little bit. Anyway, two of the, like three people that I still like that are within the realm of politics got together. Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith. I kind of want to qualify. Tucker Carlson. I feel like I want to say the stupendous. Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith on his show to respond to all of this Zionist backlash that he was receiving for having a conversation with Nick Fuentes. And foremost, Tucker explains why he had the conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen.

F (33:01)

I didn't make Nick Fuentes hardly. I just want to know what this is about. And I wanted to make the point that I often make and now seems even more important than it ever has, which is that virtue and sin are not transmitted genetically.

A (33:18)

Right.

F (33:18)

There is no such thing as blood guilt. Therefore, collective punishment is always immoral. God created each person individually. He did not create communities at once. He created people. And all of us will die and in the end face God alone. So it's about the person. And people can be changed by God, by the way. And the New Testament is that story of people who were, in the case of the whole hero of the New Testament, the human hero is a guy called Paul, was murdering Christians as a Pharisee, and then becomes the greatest proselytizer in the history of Christianity and my personal hero. So, like, don't tell me that people can't be changed because of their blood. Now that is the basis. That position is the basis of Western civilization. We often talk about Western civilization and we're all defending Western civil. Israel's defending Western civilization. Israel does not have a Western position on this question. The Israeli position, not of all Israelis, by the way, and certainly not of all Jews. But I'm saying If the Israeli government and of a couple of its ministers, which they say this out loud all the time, is that everybody who's related to a terrorist shares in his guilt. That's collective punishment. It is blood guilt. And it's antithetical to Christianity and to the West. And so for me, and by the way, Israel's not the only country that does this. Most countries do this. Literally most countries do this. All of Asia, India. This is like an intuitive response that.

A (34:36)

People have, okay, so that I actually introduced that wrong that's to occur. Just giving the broader theological. Delivering the broader theological point, which is important, that people have the capacity to change. And actually, we're kind of in this weird psychosis as a society. And I would say that this is kind of one of the things they're trying to deliver to us, is that some people are just deplorable. Like, everything about them is just so deplorable. We have to throw them away. And that's what creates these sort of movements where people are just tired of it. They're just tired of this. This is not the way that Christians think. Actually, we very much don't live in a Christian society because we live in a Christian Zionist society. And Christian Zionism is a. It's a paradox, okay? It's. There's no such thing as Christian Zionism because Zionism is all about identity, right? It's all about identity. Because I am a Jew. I therefore have a right to this land because they are Jews and I am a Christian. I recognize that I'm going to get into heaven if I just worship how Bibi Netanyahu, even if when he kills tens of thousands of kids, that is a political ideology. It is not a religion. And it is dangerous and it's wrong, and it is. It is backwards, and it is, of course, antithetical to the Bible. Now, Tucker then explains specifically why he chose to have a conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen.

F (35:54)

You should be forgiving. Always. Things are being said right now that almost seem like they can't be forgiven. They're so. Their. Their exhortations to violence, clearly they are, etc. Etc. Slander of a kind. That's so severe. Like, how do you get past that? I think we should force ourselves. I interviewed Nick Fuentes. Attack my wife and my son. And my dad can take my dad. And I interviewed him anyway, I choked it back. And I thought to myself, I'm just. I want to hear this. And I'm just gonna make. We. I try to make myself do that. So if tomorrow John Put Hartz is like. Or whomever I'm mad at, right? People I used to know are calling me a Nazi is like, you know what? I don't think he's actually a Nazi. Like, let's have a real conversation. Let's do the best for America. They should all be accepted. I don't think we should have permanent enemies who are American citizens. I don't. Because I think the whole idea of it, it is we're united by citizenship, our common Americanness. Everybody's welcome. Even if we hated each other 20 minutes ago. And Glenn Greenwald, I mean, I hated Glenn Greenwald now. I think he was one of my favorite people in the world, not just monthly, but personally. Like, forgiveness is essential. People change. Allow for that. Don't draw permanent lines in the sand where it's like, I hate you and I will hate your son too. Like, that's non Western thinking. We don't allow that.

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That want you to really consider. You listen to Tucker's perspectives and what's guiding his perspectives, and then go backwards and listen to, like, Mark Levin and these people that get on their platforms and call him irredeemable. And you realize there's a different spirit moving within these. Within these groups, Right? And he is what Christianity is, right? It's about forgiveness. It's about when you're angry, not assuming that there's some, like, blood oath that you need to honor, but saying, you know what? Nick Fuentes has something crappy things about me and I'm going to speak to him. I did the same thing. I was like the bigger person hosted him, and he was, by the way, still a jerk. But this idea that he shouldn't have a platform, he shouldn't be allowed to speak, he shouldn't be allowed to think, he shouldn't be allowed to breathe. What is that from? What is your faith? Don't. You're definitely not going to convince me that that's the first five books of the Bible, okay? I know what your faith is. It's Zionism, okay? You guys behave like gangsters. You behave like you are only loyal to one another. And you'll come beat up any person, figuratively. You'll take care of any person that gets in your. And the world can see that now. So what's your next move? To just keep doing this? To just keep behaving like this and just know that every act that you make, every show, everything that you make go viral with you speaking in the way that you speak. And then people get to Hear, Tucker, he gets bigger and you get smaller. Okay? He gets bigger, our ideas get bigger, your ideas get smaller because people can perceive the nastiness that's guiding it and they want nothing to do with it. Okay, now, I would take a brief break because I know that you guys have a lot of comments and we also have book club tonight. And we're going to get deeper, by the way, into that sort of guiding theology when we get back into the Sigmund Freud book, because it really, really connects dots for you, right? What that guiding philosophy comes from is actually a psychology. It is a psychology, and he's the father of it, as they call him the father of modern psychology. And so really stepping back into time and understanding what was happening at the turn of the 19th century across Europe, why. So speech laws have been passed in Europe. Kind of Christians in the way that we're doing right now, waking up and going, what is the guiding philosophy of these people that seem like they hate us, like they're trying to, to abuse, like what, what have we done wrong to be treated like this? This book is really an aha moment. And I'm excited for the book club. I'm excited and I understand why Zionists infiltrated it. But we're not going to stop. 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All right, comments from today's episode. Laughing Cats Music World writes, I keep thinking about George Zinn. I know he was a habitual Salt Lake City event disruptor, but what are the chances his reflex is to take the blame voluntarily? Voluntarily, I guess it's possible. But wow, crazy split decision to make, right? Not even a hesitation. I, I told you guys that we had a source leak to us. He went to the hospital. He went to Utah Valley Hospital after this event to treat some of his like mild injuries from being dragged and he told people that he was told to do it and he was paid to do it and but he didn't know where the payment was coming from. So yeah, this was, this entire thing was just an operation. Like I said, Brandon Hansen writes, been a lifelong Israel supporter. Recently, I've come to not like bb, but I still love the land where the Lord was born. A Zionist likes Netanyahu. Curious how you feel about that love for Maine. It at least makes me happy to hear you acknowledge that there's a demon. I don't. It's. It's the strangest thing to me when these people are treating bb, Net and Yahoo like he is their Christ. And that is what makes it a disgusting heresy. Right? Like to misinterpret the Bible so much that you're basically platforming and honoring what Bib and Yahoo does does. Avoiding the topic, not acknowledging that what he's doing to the Palestinians is wrong. Having love for Jerusalem, that makes sense. Having love for. To be able to walk in Jerusalem and to see the relics. That all makes sense to me. And I think I'm just more disgusted by people who turned a blind eye to everything that's happened to the Palestinians. It just makes me sick. And to see him on camera acting like such a gangster and that and people pretending that he's holy. Whether it's ever even a shame. A shred of documented proof that these people are the original people from the Holy Land is crazy. There's way more proof to the contrary, which they've stopped printing. Even their own textbooks, which they've stopped printing, that point to the fact that they came from Turkey. The Turkic Ashkenaz tribe that came down, began speaking Yiddish and then needed a place to go after World War II. It's crazy to me. The whole thing's crazy. Again, I would debate anybody on that topic. Topic definitely. Feeling especially fired up about it. A Smoky Mountain kitty writes, always trust your gut. Our brain takes in far more information than we are aware of. I love your show and all that you do. Thank you so much. Beck build writes. So glad Charlie had you. On another topic, dinosaurs. Hundreds of Bible believing PhD scientists have evidence that dinosaurs are real. Killed during the global flood of Genesis. The Institute for Creation Research answers in Genesis and creation. Okay, guys, I'm sorry. Nope. Sorry. And this is gonna get. I bet you the people that are going through my book club, by the end of this, you're gonna see that there was a conscious movement, as I said, at the end, at the turn of the century, same time they started going, oh, we found dinosaur bone too. And then you get into like the research of you come from an Australopithecus. And they describe this as like, oh, suddenly science was peaking. And actually what was happening is they wanted to make people invest in scientism. That's Lewis perspective. He writes about that in one of his books where they wanted to turn science into God. And as long as they say there's an expert, there's research. Experts say that people would fall into line and that's what we see happening. So I can't do a deep dive on the dinosaur thing right now, but the book club, we're going to go there eventually and I just can. I don't know, I just, I see a bigger picture, a broader picture now. Removing the Bibles from classrooms, teaching people that they're Homo sapiens and they started walking straight. But also the monkeys are still here. It was very methodical and yeah, broader conversation to have. I can't wait for that clip to go viral, by the way. Like I care. I also don't believe the moon landings happen. So you can cut that clip because they didn't happen. That's crazy. More scientism. Anyways, Smokey, I'm sorry. Christine writes, loyalty is rare. Christ is king. Indeed he is. Beth Mitchum writes, so we give give Israel billions. People who support Israel give AIPAC money to give our government to give to our government to vote the way Israel wants. So my tax money pays for Israeli ideas. We pay Congress twice. Can you say money laundering? Yeah, that's what it feels like, for sure. We give our tax dollars, they go overseas and then they yell at us for paying attention to what they're doing overseas and then call us anti Semitic. This is like the worst deal ever. And I'd like that deal to be undone. And it certainly isn't going to be undone in this administration, that's for sure. Jennifer K. Wright just asked Grok if Israel and Egypt coordinate on intelligence ops. It says yes. Calling their cooperation. Unprecedented since the 1979 peace treaty. Intel chiefs have met often, share real time data. Honestly, few countries make more sense working together. Yeah, country A that gets most of our money is Israel. B is Egypt. And there is a reason for that. It's so it doesn't look like it's all going to Israel. Israel. That's my perspective. Darth Phantom writes, citizens have, and I would say since the 1967 war. Do you think that they would let Israel control the Snide Peninsula? Anyways, more on that later. Darth Phantom writes, citizens have always paid taxes to finally be able to retire. And the thanks that we get for this is they raise the age on us to retire and we all obey like idiots. Am I the only one angered about this? Yeah, it's all coming apart for realizing it's all one big scam. It's all usury and it is a sin. And everything that's happening into our. In our country, our culture, the corrosion. I think it's because America has married to Zionism. Like I truly do believe that. And I think a lot of people are waking up to that. We were a better country when we were a Christian nation. We are no longer a Christian nation. We are an occupied nation with an ideology that has produced filth in our culture. Miranda writes, Hi, Candace. I'm 23 and I should be clear. A political ideology dressed up as a religion in a faith. Miranda writes, Candice, I'm 23 and newly married. We just found out that I'm pregnant. Congratulations. I'm nervous, but I know children are God's blessing. Do you have any advice for me as a young mother? Is it okay to be nervous? My advice would be not to take advice. It is going to be the most natural job that you have. You are going to just know what to do when you see the baby and it will make you a better person because you will be so tapped into God's creation, you will realize that there is something more. It is one of the sins in the culture that kind of trained us to have children later is that we don't tap into our divine purpose and children immediately have you tap into your divine purpose. You feel more wholesome, more confident. I became a more confident person when I had children because I suddenly realized what matters and what doesn't matter. And that's why I fight like hell for truth. Because it matters. Right. My investment is that I have children and my silence is. Is essentially cowardice that would g guarantee that their future would be compromised. Could be more compromised than our lives are right now. Right now. Lastly, Real light worker writes. Have you looked into events going on at UVU that day? A college student posted an FB reel of her experience. She ran into a building where the room was filled with uniformed people and a bunch of different flags. Who were they? That's the hall of flags. That's behind Charlie's head. And I do find something suspicious was going on there. I've never gotten clarity but that's where notoriously person who filmed the footage, the only footage that we have of of the person running across who they say is the shooter running across the Lozi Center. So yeah, look, we are investigating every day with more information. Tomorrow we will have more explosive information and revelations about the Egyptian plane which so interesting. Speaking of the unique relationship between Egypt and Israel. Tick Tock is hitting us for videos talking, talking about the Egyptian planes. That's very strange. Israel's moderator served in the idf. We know and they Bibi wants Tick Tock secured for Israel's future. Why do they care about Egyptian planes that were there? It's kind of coming together. There's a picture here that's coming together. Anyways, you guys we have to jump off because we do have book club tonight. So I will see you guys in the Zionist infiltration on our book club. We finally did it guys. We went viral and they're stealing clips from behind the paywall. If you guys would like to support our work, you know you can go to candaceowens.com you can go to makehimasandwich.com to buy the book. You will really enjoy this book. It's really important especially for women to understand where these feminist ideals came from and beyond that. We will see you guys tomorrow. Sam.