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Candace Owens
All right, you guys, happy Monday. It is heating up. It's heating up, ladies and gentlemen, because after Joe Kent resigned as the director of counterterrorism, there was this instant stream of Israel firsters who accused him of leaking to me. All right, Joe Kent immediately came under attack. And curiously, Andrew Colvett retweeted someone who suggested that Joe Kent should be arrested for leaking classified documents. Whoa. Why is Andrew Colvett upset with Jo Kent? Is he upset with Joe Kent? It would certainly appear that Turning Point wants to exact revenge because you guessed it, Jo Kent told the truth about something and that something made Erica Kirk, Charlie's wife, look very foolish. And on that note, you guys, I have got some, some unbelievably explosive news about that now infamous tarmac hug, the one that's been living inside of me since Charlie's death. Let's jump right into it. Welcome back to Candace. I see the chat saying no battle bun today. That is correct. No battle bun today. But I promise you we are going to do battle. Okay, we can jump right into Joe Kent. Joe Kent, after resigning, went on to Tucker Carlson and he communicated some rather explosive bits of news to share regarding Charlie Kirk's investigation. Right. He basically says the FBI stopped him from investigating. I'll let you listen to his words from his own mouth. Take a listen.
Joe Kent
And the last time I saw Charlie Kirk on this earth was in June in the West Wing, in the Stairway. And I said hi to him and he looked me in the eye and he said very loudly, and it's a small. You've been in the West Wing. It's small. It's a tight space. And he said, joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran, very loudly.
Candace Owens
He was single minded.
Joe Kent
And he walked off and he went, I believe, into the Oval. So when one of President Trump's closest advisors, who is vocally advocating for us to not go to war with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis. And then he's suddenly publicly assassinated and we're not allowed to ask any questions about that. It's a data point. It's a data point that we need to look into.
Candace Owens
What do you mean when you say
Interviewer/Host
we're not allowed to ask any questions about that?
Joe Kent
We've been told that this individual, Robinson, he's a lone gunman, and maybe he is, but the investigation that I was a part of, the National Counterterrorism center, was a part of, we were stopped from continuing to investigate. And the FBI will say that they stopped that because they wanted to have every turn everything over to the Utah state authorities. Everything's going to trial. It's very, very sensitive. But there was still a lot for us to look into that I can't really get into, but there was still linkage for us to investigate that we needed to run down. And I'm not making any conclusions. I'm not saying.
Candace Owens
No, I don't think you are.
Joe Kent
Because, you know, because of this, this happened. I'm not. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying there's unanswered questions. We know the pressure because of the text messages, text messages that have been made public, that Charlie was under a lot of pressure from a lot of pro Israel donors. And again, we know Charlie was advocating to President Trump against this war with Iran. And we knew at the end of the 12 Day War, at the end of Midnight Hammer, that the Israelis were going to come back and ask us to go back to war again.
Candace Owens
Right.
Joe Kent
So we have a lot of data points between Butler, the assassination attempts against President Trump, the breaches of his security, what happened to Charl Kirk.
Candace Owens
Now, of course, this instantly began trending. It's shocking. You have somebody who is the director, former director of National Counterterrorism, telling you that he was. Somebody stopped him, he stopped from investigating whether or not there could have been any foreign leads or foreign involvement. He's. I don't know for sure, but I do know that we had things that we would have investigated had not been for Cash Patel. Now, we had already knew, had known rather that something was brewing between him and Cash Patel. Right. That made it into the Daily Mail at some point. We had covered it. You would think, you would think that him sitting down with Tucker and revealing this would shock the senses of turning Point usa, that it would shock the senses of his wife. They would go, what? Get Cash on the phone immediately. I need to speak to Cash, but I would need to know why he was stopped, why Joe Kent was stopped from investigating. I demand to know why this happened. And then they should further demand that investigation to take place. Right? Was there foreign involvement? But that's of course not what is going to happen following his appearance. That's never how it works at Turning Point usa. They always forget how to just pretend that they aren't guilty. You know what I mean? They just don't know how to act surprised or dismayed or concerned that there could have been foreign involvement. They always do the opposite thing that the rest of the world is doing, right? And this time they're angry at Joe Kent. The Israel first crowd, like I said, immediately began demanding that he spend time in prison for leaking what they claimed are classified documents. Alex Clark, best known for posing in high boots on top of Charlie's vigil site just a mere days after he was assassinated. She had this to say on X. She said, Joe Kent is clearly no friend to Charlie as he has actively participated in and or egged on behind the scenes in the degradation of his wife. How anyone could defend him in any way after that disgusts me. Fake friends, obviously. What's missing from that is any proof, right? I have never heard from any person that Joe Kent egged on anyone going after Erica Kirk. In fact, in terms of public commentators who have gone after Erica Kirk, I actually they normally loop me in with Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, I stand alone in in that group. Tucker Carlson has said he is a friend of Erica Kirk. McKellas says she's a friend of Erica Kirk. Joe Kent, I have never heard utter a bad word about Erica Kirk. So is Turning Point going to supply any receipts for the fact that he egged on something that was harmful to Erica Kirk? Jack Posic, who works with Turning Point USA in a lot of different ways, but also is military and has served the country and therefore, like most military men, respect Joe Kent's accomplishment. He came under fire for merely listing, absent any commentary, Joe Kent's qualifications and his background having served this country. This is what Jack Posobic wrote and I'm going to show you how Laura Loomer responded. She he wrote, Joe Kent has six Bronze Star medals with five oak leaf clusters across 11 combat deployments as a Green Beret in some of the biggest battles of the GW ot And this they were infuriated. You should see the comments under this. They couldn't stand this. Don't. You cannot say anything good about Joe Kent. Laura jumps in and says why are you defending a known leaker who is undermining President Trump. There is now speculation that Joe Kent may have been leaking information to Candace Owens for the purpose of attacking Mrs. Erica Kirk. What are you doing? Okay, I can tell you right now that that is completely untrue. Joe Kent did not leak me anything for the purpose of attacking Erica Kirk. But here is what's even more interesting. Okay. They don't realize that they're implying that Erica Kirk is guilty of something. Right? Let's. Let's actually imagine what they're saying is true. Like Joe Kent. Let's say Joe Kent is the one that leaked me crucial information regarding Charlie Kirk. Okay. And the investigation. Well, how could that hurt Erica Kirk? That should hurt the. The feds. If they're lying, it could only hurt someone who is lying to the public about what actually occurred on that day. The implication is that him leaking something harmed Erica Kirk. They're not saying he is a liar. They are saying he is a leaker. I find that to be interesting. And they never think through their attacks. So we got to figure out what it is, what it is they're talking about. Why are they so upset about what Joe Kent said? How could this harm Erica? Well, we finally were able to determine what is it they're talking about because Andrew Colvette addressed the claims directly today on Charlie Kirk's radio show. Take a listen.
Andrew Colvett
The central claim, though, that I want to get to is, was Joe Kent leaking certain information. And over the weekend, a clip came up, and it's gone a little bit viral. I want to address it. Let's go ahead and play it. Cut 16.
Narrator/Commentator
The way that those screenshots got to Candace is via Joe Kent. Andrew Colvett. Andrew was in the chat group as well. He was one of the nine people in the group. And he admitted at first, be perfectly honest, at first he was denying it. We didn't know how Candace got them. But then he admitted on the air on his show that he had given these text messages and he gave them to. He said that on the show that he gave them to someone in the government. He told us that. That he gave them to someone in the government. Joe, Kentucky was someone that we. We knew that there was a relationship there between Charlie and Andrew and Joe. We knew that when Charlie would visit Washington, D.C. he would talk to Joe. We kind of verified that the messages had been given by Andrew to Joe Kent and that Joe Kent had been the one to pass them on to Candace.
Andrew Colvett
All right, so verified is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I do want to confirm what I can confirm, and that is that, yes, in the immediate aftermath, I did provide the group chat to Joe Kent. We don't throw around accusations recklessly here. We don't. There's a lot of people that do that online. We don't do that. We think that's keeping in the spirit of Charlie's spirit. And the way we choose to do things is we try and be responsible. So, yes, in a spirit of looking at every lead, turning over every stone, we wanted everybody that needed to know to know anything that we knew, not just. I mean, and by the way, we've been accused of not being interested in the truth.
Interviewer/Host
And just to remind people what this is referring to, this is after Charlie's murder, there were text messages that from a private group chat that were made public and were used to, frankly, kick off the big conspiracy theory that we've run into over and over again, which is that Israel or the Jews had Charlie murdered.
Andrew Colvett
Yes. So which we do not believe. Which we do not believe. But we have been accused of trying to. Or we're not interested in the truth. The actual fact of the matter is that behind the scenes, we have given everything we know to give every single piece of information. This was one of them. I was told I could trust Joe Kent. I provided the screen grabs to Joe Kentucky. And I don't know what happened to them at that point. Okay, I just wanna make that very clear. Eventually, Joe did message me and suggest that I make those screengrabs public. I declined because those were shared privately. I didn't want to be reckless with them in the public. There could be innocent people on that group chat that would then be harmed. So I declined. But then fast forward another week or two and they were made public. So that's what I know is that Joe suggested that they be made public. I declined, then they were made public. Can I 100% categorically say that he leaked them? No, but those are the facts. Maybe somebody on his team, maybe they got passed around, maybe somebody else leaked them, but that's that. Those are the facts of the matter. And that's what I know.
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Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. Yeah. The part that Andrew's just forgetting to add there is that he himself told me about the text chain. Andrew was telling multiple people about the tech check text chain. And I'm so glad that he is telling the truth, that this was going around. And this is their. This is their bone to pick with Joe Kent. This is what put a B in their bonnets. This is what has upset Turning Point usa. As a refresher, Turning Point chose to stay entirely mum on the topic of Charlie's support for Israel. Instead, allowed a force of Zionists who. Who were harassing him in his last days. Zionists like Josh Hammer to lie about what Charlie was going through. Right. So I came out and told the truth. Megan Kelly came out and told the truth. Tucker Mountain called the truth. He was having changing opinions on Israel. Now we're way far down. We know how true that is. Brett Weinstein has released his messages about Iran. You hear Joe Kent telling you the last time he saw him in the White House, he said that everybody knew this and Turning Point did not confirm it. It allowed Zionists to lie about that. Then I released the concrete proof in the form of the text chain, which then forced them to confess. Confess that there was a communication that took place less than 24 hours before Charlie was shot and killed. And more crucially, it was a communication that took place shortly before Charlie began texting his security and Andrew Colvett, which he also told me about, that he thought they were going to kill him. Okay. Something that Erica initially denied to the public. So what we have here is that Turning Point is angry because this made both them and the new CEO and chairman, who also happens to be Charlie Kirk's wife, look bad. Right? Liars hate when they get caught. But narcissistic liars, rather than repenting when they get caught, get angry and they seek revenge on the people who expose their lies. They never feel any shame. Okay? They don't possess any shame. The rabbi is not ashamed that he lied and said Charlie never blinked on Israel. He's not ashamed that he lied. He's angry he got caught. Josh Hammer was angry he got caught. I'm exploring legal options. I. I should be allowed to lie to the public and make it look like Candace is crazy. Right? They view themselves as the victims when they get caught being dishonest. Now, you should remember liars, they are nocturnal creatures. They hate the light. Me, I love it. Daylight is the best disinfectant And I have some more interesting information. Yeah. Your punishment is more truth. Mr. Blake Neff and Andrew Colvett. Foremost, I'll just state this. This could be nothing. But I do want to say this. On September 5th, while Charlie was away in Asia, that Rabbi Wolicki and Rabbi Pesach Wolicki, who was the one who shouted me out, he had a call with Justin Strife and Andrew Colvett. And I find that to be interesting because Rabbi Wolicki does not have any role within Turning Point usa. He claims to be one of Charlie's personal advisors. I don't know why he would have a phone call with Andrew and Justin Strife. Why do two Catholics need to speak to a rabbi while Charlie's away in Asia? Now, there could be a reasonable explanation. I would just like to hear it. It's another interesting data point for me. But there's something bigger, actually, something that is explosive. It's massive. And it may even involve those pesky little Egyptian planes that were following Turning Point faith events for years. And this most definitely will require a response from Turning Point usa. So let me at first jog your memory about the infamous tarmac hug that lives inside of us all. I had told you all that I spoke to Andrew Colvett on September 10th and the Days. The immediate days thereafter, and he specifically told me something that became problematic down the line. It wasn't problematic when he told me it became problematic down the line. He told me that he was on a massive plane all by himself. I was under the impression it was a G5 or a G6. And he was, after Charlie got shot, racing to Provo alone on this plane with no one to speak to, with anxiety building inside of him. Finally, they land in Provo. The plane doors open, and the first person he sees is Erica Kirk. Suddenly, all that built up anxiety releases when he meets her on the tarmac and boohoo cries in her arms. The exact word he used was collapsed. He collapsed into Erica's arms. And when he told me this, painted a picture in my mind and thought about it of like, wow, could you imagine being on a plane all by yourself? Massive plane. You got this G5 to yourself, and you got no one to talk to. And then suddenly you see someone and you just. And it's the first time you really acknowledge that Charlie's. Charlie's dead, Right? On that conversation, I am 10,000% certain. Okay. I was also put immediately under the pressure that it was Charlie's plane. So I was then surprised when Andrew's Story down the line seemed to shift to me, and it became that he was with his wife, flying from Santa Barbara. Wife. No, that. That just can't be right. I said this instantly. I was locked in emotionally due to the adrenaline of everything that was going on those days. Andrew told me his wife asked if he wanted her to then fly to Utah, and he told her, of course. Okay, conversation. That I registered as his wife, having flown separate and later from him. In fact, I was so convinced that I did not miss on this that I heard Andrew and understood him correctly, that they had flown separately, that it was among the highest priority items for me. When I had the opportunity to sit down with Erica Kirk and Justin Strife, I had very few questions and. And one of them was pertaining to the planes. I asked them who flew on each plane on that day, and more specifically, I said, did Andrew fly with his wife, did not tell them about a tarmac hug. I kept that card close because I was going to be able to determine whether or not they were lying to me about who flew on which planes if I just didn't tell them that I knew about this tarmac hug. Right. Justin Strife told me that he booked the planes. He said, I booked the planes. I'm paraphrasing here. He was like, and Andrew's wife was supposed to be on the plane, but I don't know if she got on it. Let me double check. He said, I'll get back to you and I'll double check. And he jotted down as something to get back to me. And he did eventually get back to me. He says, later the next day or so, he texts me, says, she was on the plane. And yeah, his excuse was like, I'm not sure, because even though I scheduled her sometimes, it was such a crazy day, things could have changed and maybe she found her own way there in the end. But of course, I looked at Erica, expecting her to pipe up and say, yes, she most definitely did fly with Andrew. You put that pencil down, Justin. I know, of course, that she. She flew with Andrew because we met on this tarmac and had this hug and cried. But no, Erica blanked me. She did the Erica thing, the eye. She stood there. Erica is the person who should have been able to answer that question instantly. It is not every day that you have a boohoo cry on a tarmac with a married man while his wife is standing behind him on the day of your husband's assassination. Is that fair? Am I being fair here? I feel like I'm being fair. It's fair to assume that Erica should have remembered that Andrew Colvette's wife was flying with him, but she didn't. Also, the other reason why I felt they were lying was why would any person wait an hour for the PR guy to land before racing to the hospital to see their husband after he was shot? That doesn't make sense. Erica would have had to wait an hour on the tarmac for Andrew Colvett's plane. I instantly felt they were lying and now I believe that I have evidence that proves that I was correct and they were indeed lying. And it is highly likely that Andrew flew by himself on Charlie's plane, plausibly Charlie's plane, because I now have a message chain from that day, arguably the most significant text chain that took place on September 10th at that company. The text chain pertaining to public relations. How are you going to communicate to the public, to the world, to employees, what is happening with Charlie Kirk? How are you going to, to tell them? How are you going to explain to them that Charlie Kirk has passed away? So we go back to September 10th. Charlie Kirk has been shot. Instantly, the most important person at that company becomes Justin Strife because he's been promoted to coo. Just seven days earlier, he gets promoted to coo. So he's the number two guy here. And of course, the most important person is also going to be our public relations, our longtime spokesperson, Andrew Colbett and their chief marketing officer, Marina Minas. Now if Andrew Colvette's story that he is now telling the public is true, he was at home with his wife in Santa Barbara when Charlie was shot. And then he mysteriously waits for three hours until he flies private with his wife at 3:19pm Utah time. I'm going to keep everything in Utah time today because it's just easier that way because you don't, you don't have to worry about the time changes. Okay, so three hours, almost exactly three hours. He departs Santa Barbara. I could get him a private plane faster than that. I'm going. What? That's not. Nope. He told me he sprinted. Whatever. That would mean that during that three hour timeframe in Santa Barbara, Andrew Colvett should have been available, right? To, to freely communicate with the team, the press, until that flight departs at 3:19. That's his job. That's literally his job. That is not what these messages reveal. These messages that I'm about to show you, they are in Pacific time. So you're going to have to adjust them, adjust them all forward one hour in your mind at this Time at this, it's Arizona time. And at this time, Arizona is on Pacific time. So we're gonna. I'm gonna do that already when I discuss these messages one hour forward. And don't worry, I'm then gonna show you a nice clean calendar entry so that you can take a screenshot and understand how this went down with the details of the communications afterwards so that everything is crystal clear at 1:02 Utah time. So 39 minutes after Charlie is shot, 12:23, Andrew Colvett messages the group and he says he's telling them for communications we can confirm publicly that he's been shot. Take a look at this. Okay, in this group, we have Justin Strife, we have Andrew Colvett, we have Marina Menez, and we have Aubrey, who is later going to be fired over an Uber ride that Marina overhears. Here is that text chain. Okay, so at 1:29pm Again, I'm adjusting forward, Utah time. He is then informed that CNN wants to have someone on the show. Everyone's reaching out, right, to speak about it. And he instantly says no. Just a minute later, at 1:30pm he is asked, can Morgan do a news hit at 8pm Eastern? And there's no response. Okay, so at 1:30pm there's no response from Andrew until almost exactly two hours later at 3:25pm Again, this is Mountain Time, 3:25pm Utah time. He asks back, is she on Fox? Like, is Morgan on Fox? And then he replies to that initial question that was sent to him at 1:30, and he declares why he's been absent for two hours. So he's following up and he says at 3:26. Sorry, on the plane. This just loaded. This just loaded. It's an important way of describing something. In other words, I am sorry that it has been two hours and I did not reply to you. I didn't get this message because this just loaded now. Okay, maybe you're coming in to land. Whatever it is. Now all your messages are starting to load. Messages, as we know, cannot load when you are on a plane. If it's a plane that doesn't have WI fi, he is saying that the messages just came ineffectively. Do we agree that's what that means? This just loaded. This time frame from 1:30 Utah time up until 3:25 Utah time matches within the timeframe that Charlie's plane is traveling. Andrew shouldn't have even taken off. Nothing. Okay, I'm showing you. This is Charlie's plane, and that plane is going to leave at 2:31pm from Scottsdale and land into Provo at 3:31pm and we're going to be told that Erica and Tyler and Elizabeth McCoy and Stacey Sheridan are on this plane. But this text chain makes it looks like it's Andrew. Okay, now I can tell you more. Giving even more credence to the claim that Andrew was unavailable because he was on a plane during that time is the fact that Marina Minas, the Chief Marketing Officer, personally called Aubrey at 2:05pm, Utah time and asked her to to draft the death statement, which was going to go out to the entire staff. Because here's what's crucial, because Andrew's currently on a plane and I don't have it within me to draft this statement. Can you, Aubrey, draft this statement? Essentially, Aubrey, the what, 26 year old, is now responsible for the unbelievably emotionally heavy statement that has to be drafted in Andrew, steady. Because he's on a plane. Can we just take a moment to appreciate that Marina, this psycho, is going to then just a few months later, be behind getting Aubrey fired because she had a conversation with an Uber driver. Like, I am sorry, if you ever make your employee go through the emotional trauma of having to draft statements to the press and draft and draft statements to the entire company to announce that their CEO has that on the day that they have died. You can't even process the emotion of learning this that Charlie Kirk is dead. That employee should just be allowed to chill and do nothing for like, I don't know, three years. Three years. This all came down to a 26 year old and they're gonna then make her work insane hours and then fire her through weekends and then fire her and her fiance because they had a conversation with an Uber driver and she wasn't loyal to Erica. Like, I'm sorry, that feels criminal to me. It just, I know it's not literally criminal, but it feels criminal. Like it should be a crime. Like, I, that's me, I'm talking to a lawyer. Because that's crazy, okay? And I, and I never say that, but this is beyond insane now that I'm really processing what they put this person through emotionally, only to then fire them and not even give them a bonus after they took in that much money. Like, what, where's, where's a lawyer? Okay, Anyway, back into this. I just got angry, I stepped aside. Now I'm back, I'm back here. Anyway, this means obviously that Andrew had to have been on an earlier flight. Just as I had remembered, we now have a hard evidence. We have the call Logs. We have text messages that Andrew was unavailable from 1:30pm to 3:25pm and it's about to get stranger and it's stranger. So at 2:27pm Mountain time. Okay, remember this is all adjusted for Utah time. The email goes out to the employees confirming that Charlie Kirk has passed away. Drafted from like a 26 year old. And then Andrew is going to disappear again. Disappears again from the chat. And this is where it's going to get especially interesting because he disappears during a most critical time. Again, this is his literal job. They have just sent employees an email that Charlie Kirk has passed away and that the office is going to be closed for the rest of the day. Of course a corporate wide email to that effect, when the entire world is watching is going to leak. And what's going to then happen is they're going to get a sudden influx. The PR is going to get a ton of emails. Aubrey's going to get a crap ton of messages. People wanting a confirmation. Is this a real email? Is it true? Is Charlie dead? Is the office closed at 3:49 Utah time? She's going to ask her boss who's been unavailable, should I confirm or deny? Right, let's. We can pull those messages back up. Justin Stripe is going to come back and say confirm or deny what? And she's going to say that the, that the office is closed to which Justin's going to say yes. And if the email is authentic, Justin who, sorry, she's going to then say to him yes. And if the email is authentic, they want to know, the press wants to know if this is a real email and whether or not the office is closed. And Justin, who remember he told me that he booked the planes and he therefore should know if Andrew is unavailable. He then jumps into the chat and he says it's your call, Andrew, it's your call. Obviously it's true. That's at 3:52pm if you guys need to pull that, please pull that so we can throw that up later. And there is curiously again going to be no response from Andrew until 4:25pm Mountain, Utah time. And when he finally replies, he again is going to have another excuse. He's going to say curiously, my Internet just came back on. My Internet just came back on. Okay, so we have a two hour window and then we have this hour window in which Andrew Colvett is unavailable to do the most important thing on the most important job. And in east each instance he doesn't have Internet. What goes on in Santa Barbara? Santa Barbara, it's very strange. So now I'm going to place all of this on a calendar. And, Skylar, just shout me out when you have that second part in my ear of the message. I'm going to place this on a calendar so that you guys can see all the moving pieces here, okay? And I'm also going to add some Egyptian planes that were transponding here because I find they line up a little too precise. Remember, there was a one Egyptian plane that was just transponding on a tarmac in Provo mysteriously just turned on. And I always felt like that was something that shouldn't be ignored. But, you know, they weren't concerned about it. Not turning Point, not Erica. They're cracking jokes. They're not interested at all in foreign involvement. Joe Kent. Ugh. What a terrible, indecent human being for being interested in knowing whether or not wanting to find out whether or not there was foreign involvement. We hate this, man. Right, let's look at this. Let's look at this calendar. And you guys can screenshot this that you have it. Okay, first is that early morning that Egyptian plane is going to transpond from 1005am to 1134am this is all Utah, Mountain Standard Time, guys. Okay? Then we have Charlie. Then we have these blocks in which Andrew Colvett is unavailable. Okay? Those blue blocks are Andrew Colvett being unavailable according to his own chain. His own chain. And when he responds and says that the message is just loading. That's that second block in which we have the Egyptian plane transponding in purple. And during that time is also Charlie's flight from Charlie's plane. Pardon me, from Scottsdale to Provo. Okay? So you can just, again, screenshot this. You can see, and it's like, okay, Andrew's not available. Can you please drop a statement? This is all happening at a time where he should be here. Andrew, according to his story, does not have anything to do until 3:19pm so why are the communications coming from executives that Andrew is unavailable and he is on a plane when Andrew is not supposed to be on a plane all time suggested for Utah? I'm just going to keep saying that because inevitably there will be someone that says, this is wrong. All times have been adjusted to reflect Mountain Standard time, Utah time, so that we could get it all on board. Okay, now there's something that I certainly would like to add here, and this, to be clear, is now moving toward speculation. But the reality is, is that secure communications happen via satellite. Okay? That that's how planes communicate. Planes are not using cell phone towers. They're above cell phone towers. They are communicating via satellite. And that is what you would have, satellite phones. If you're, like, in the military and running a ground operation. Satellite phones are what intelligence agencies use because they sit outside of landline infrastructure. They sit outside of cell phone towers. And this is a fact, the Department of Defense, which is all over the story for some reason, Lori, is part of the Department of. They actually have their own satellites entirely. Right. They're not even having to connect to other satellites near. They have their own satellites, obviously, for the purpose of running operations. So were they to run any sort of ground operations, they'd likely hand those out to their guys. And this may be nothing, but while we're just speculating, Blake Neff sure did have an interesting way of describing his phone call with his mom after the shot rang out. Remember, he was defending Mikey McCoy and talks about how he ran, and after he ran, he called his mom. Listen to the words he uses at the end. Here, take a listen.
Interviewer/Host
I remember he calls Erica. I. Around the same time, I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, mom, there's been a shooting. You're going to see it on the news. I'm okay. You know, pray for me. I've got to go. And I remember that call. And around the time I put that phone away. And then he immediately calls his dad. He calls Robin McCoy.
Candace Owens
I put that phone away is a very interesting way of putting it. No one calls their phone that phone. Right? I put that phone away implies you have two phones. That's what it implies. Implies you have two phones. Right? You. Otherwise you just say, I put my phone away. I put that phone away. He says it so casually, because you don't think about it. That's these little things that happen. Again, it's just a data point that I'd be interesting exploring. Did he have another phone? Maybe he did. Maybe had another work phone. And so he literally meant I put that phone, my personal phone away, and it was my work phone. But if I'm. If I'm running counterterrorism, I'm interested. They're not gonna. They're not gonna point me. I thought about it over the weekend. I was like, oh, maybe they'll, like, place me in there. Jo Kent's gone and resigned, and I have not been called yet from the White House. Anyway, I'm gonna show you guys, by the way, that second part of the chat that we did not have for you so that you could see it where I was discussing Justin Strife jumping in saying, confirm or deny. What? All these messages are coming in. Is the email authentic? Yes. You can see these times. And it is at the end there, at what would be 4:25pm Utah time, that Andrew jumps in and says, my Internet just came back on Justin's drive says, you may need to wait until AK is on the ground. My Internet just came back on. Why is he gone all day? What's going on? What's going on? Where, where are you? Who are you communicating with? What's going on here? Okay. Another maybe purely speculative bit of information is the Y Refi plane. I never liked their story here. I never liked this plane. Call it the Y Refi plane because that's, that's who Erica told me was on the plane, right? Y Refi was sponsoring the event. He's the guy that walks over and is all like whatever in the video and that they flew in. And I always felt like I'd, you know, I'm interested because why, first off, why are you flying into Duncan Aviation? Duncan Aviation is not where you fly into. Usually you fly into signature, you fly into Atlantic. Duncan Aviation is particularly has a bent towards military and it is for fixing planes. So what are we doing at Duncan Aviation, full stop? I don't really know. Anyways, the Y Refi plane had some interesting SOPs that Dave and I would like to bring up here. It just happens to go from Scottsdale in the morning to Provo, then from Provo to Santa Barbara at 10:24, then from Santa Barbara it goes to Scottsdale. And if you actually put this up, you will start to realize that when this plane lands, at the times that it lands, like when it arrives in a Provo at 1006, you know, it happens to land at a time where suddenly that plane, the Egyptian planes are going to be transponding. Okay, same deal. When it lands In Scottsdale at 144, it Suddenly, it's like when these blue planes start to transpond there, you're just gonna see that Y Refi plane now added here. And it's just, it's interesting. Like right when they land, see, it lands in Provo and then right away, then Egyptian plane starts transponding, then it lands in Scottsdale and right away that Egyptian plane starts transponding. It's like planes can communicate to each other on a satellite. If they know which satellite they're going to. Again, I'm in speculation zone. But I don't, I don't like the idea. This was Just a drop off, but it also then goes to Santa Barbara and also then comes to Scottsdale. It's like all the places that are involved that day. And yes, this plane is somehow associated to Turning Point usa. It gives me the ick. And people who lie and people who are like abusive in their lies, like you get caught in your lie and then you're angry at people who revealed you, they tend to keep lying. Right. It's a pattern. It's a personality trait, so to speak. So that's why we call this frequent liar Miles. We don't know what's going on. We're gonna stay on this this week though because we are getting close. And justice for that girl Aubry, the anger that I felt when I really processed that she had to write all of this stuff, then work like seven hour days, not sleep, only to then not get a raise and to be fired because Marina Minas spoke to an Uber driver that can't fly in this world. There has to be justice. There's gotta be justice for Aubrey. I'm start selling justice for Aubrey tees justice for Aubrey. Anyways, we went max. We'll see you guys right after a quick break. All right, you guys. We are only a few months into 2026 and AI is already changing how we work. Tools are getting smarter by automating tasks and saving hours every single week. The reality is the people who learn how to use AI now are the ones who get ahead. That's where Outskill comes in. 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You can find it@nemi skincare.com and if you want to try it, you can use my code candace10 at checkout for a discount. Again, that's Nimi skincare.com justice for Aubrey, justice for Aubry. I'm gonna pour some out for Aubry because this is crazy. This is just absolutely crazy. It's. It's evil, actually. And then she's like my turning point family. My turning point family. How did you put this person through this? It's sick, actually. Very disturbing. You're angry. Why? Because somebody can't vent and she says she never did vent to the Uber driver. Uber driver says they've ended. Who cares? You're not required to like your boss when you get home. By the way, I have no idea what they say about me in the control when they get home. I'm a business, you know what I mean? Anyway, adding more to the Israel Firsters frustrations is the fact that everybody can see that something's not right with Turning Point USA and Erica Kirk. And that includes the biggest podcaster in the world, Joe Rogan. They were so angry because he went on his show and just kind of said, water is wet. Take a listen.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, that. That Elvis is real. Like we used to have a fun, kind of playful. Yeah, yeah. Then now it's all out of whack.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
You know, it's Macron's got a dick.
Joe Rogan
Exactly.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
I've heard Erica Kirk's got a dick. I've heard that one. Whoa.
Joe Rogan
Well, she seems thrilled right now.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
She's an odd duck.
Joe Rogan
She's a kook for sure.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
You ever seen the compilation of her making crazy eyes?
Joe Rogan
No.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
There's a video of her make a demon eyes. And every time she makes the eyes, the music, dude, it's so ridiculous.
Joe Rogan
She's possessed.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Well, she just gets intense.
Joe Rogan
She seems she's having a good time. Well, she was on a reality show, you know.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Yes.
Joe Rogan
So she's a star.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
A little bit. Maybe she was also in some weird CIA documents or CIA films.
Joe Rogan
Is that right?
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Like. Yeah. You never seen those films?
Joe Rogan
No, no.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
See if you can find those films. There's some weird, like, internal films that they made that she was a part of.
Joe Rogan
She looks like if a pageant lady, a pageant girl was growing up 100. Yeah, look at that.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Yeah. Well, I mean, she essentially was a pageant lady.
Joe Rogan
Oh, really?
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Right. Wasn't she in, like, Miss USA or one of those things?
Joe Rogan
I don't know, maybe. Wasn't she got that kind of face?
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Well, there's a thing that people want, right? That attention, fame thing.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
That is what they really want. Okay, so Jamie will find it vulnerable
Candace Owens
that we've presented to congressional officials. One being cyber, two being hackers, three being physical threats, fourth one is solar emp, and the fifth one is man made emp. So the concern that we have is that we put out this critical information, and when we go over this risk analysis, they hear what we're saying, but they don't want to take action.
Interviewer/Host
Well, there are 18 critical infrastructures.
Joe Rogan
It's weird, but very weird.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
She's doing a CIA informational video.
Joe Rogan
Weird. An acting gig. Or is this something else, perhaps?
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Or, you know, but even so, you're doing an acting gig for the CIA? Who calls you for that?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
You ever get one of those calls? No, no, I never go on those calls.
Joe Rogan
And my agent never hit me with that one.
Guest on Joe Rogan's Show
Yeah, it's odd. Well, there's a lot of people that think that she was his handler. She was. Charlie Kirk said. But of course there's a lot of people think, I have antlers.
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Candace Owens
Again, he's just speaking common sense, and I love that he addressed particularly the CIA document. Because a documentary. Because they came out and they were suddenly trying to gaslight us and were. Well, the CIA didn't produce the documentary. Okay. Yes. But the head of the CIA is in it. Okay? You got to get approved from the CIA to be in a CIA documentary that doesn't just happen casually like he says. Are you getting that phone call from your agent? And no, she's not acting. She's specifically referring to her mother's business model, EMPs. So she's not acting. She's involved. And so people, of course, online, were so angry about it. The Israel Firsters, Mark Levin tweeted this. Is this some AI production? If not, what a total disgrace. Then this. Aton Fishberger said, this is some sick stuff from Joe Rogan. As if Erica hasn't been through enough already. How about just acknowledging that you do not have the power to transform reality? Just you. You're losing. You're losing this repeat battle to try to tell us that up is down and down is up. And everybody consents that something is not right with Erica. Everybody can sense that. It is not normal for somebody to lie. It's not normal for an organization to be angry. Even if Joe Kent had released every single message and said this is what Charlie was going through, how would that hurt Erica? Somebody explain how that would hurt Erica to get closer to determining what was going on in his life in the last few days. Especially when people are lying. None of this would be weird if Josh Hammer came out and was like, dang, we were, you know, he was pretty fired up day before. I feel so bad. That was our last conversation. They were honest about what happened in the Hamptons. It happens. You get into arguments with people. If I got into an argument with somebody and the police asked me, I wouldn't be up there. Like, we never had any. Any issues at all. Never. We never even had one. Miscommunicate. No. That is. He just loved me. Every second of every. Nothing was weird. I would be like, oh, my gosh, we had a massive fight yesterday. Here are the messages. I feel so terrible. Are you kidding me? I. Gosh, life can be taken from any moment. They don't know how to just be normal and not lie. Just tell the truth and don't get upset if you believe somebody else is telling the truth. And that's what they're angry about. They are angry that Joe Kent is echoing what everyone has said. We all told the truth instantly. I told you the truth based off of my discussions with Charlie about where his headspace was at when it came to Israel. I didn't need Joe Kent for that. I didn't even know Joe Kent at all. Had never had a single communication with Joe Kent until after Charlie was assassinated. That. That is the honest to God truth. I didn't know this man at all. And so this whole idea that everyone's colluding, colluding to tell the truth. Megan Kelly told the truth. Tara Carlson told the truth. And you guys hate us for that. You guys want us canceled and attacked for having the spine to do what you did not. You were going to allow a hostile takeover of his legacy. And we said, hell no. So there it is. Anyway, I'm going to. I didn't realize we were kind of running up against time. And I want to get to your comments. So I think we are going to throw it to a brief break and we'll come back and I'll answer some of your comments. All right, you guys, when you think about your future, you probably picture your family, your home, and the life that you're building. But here's a harder question. What happens to all of that if you're not here? Life insurance isn't really about you. It's about protecting the people that you love and making sure that they can cover the mortgage, pay off debts, and keep moving forward no matter what happens. That's where Ethos comes in. Ethos makes it simple to protect your family's future. 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So visit clearthefog.org or click the link in the description below and you'll get 15 off your entire order if you order within the next 15 days. Again, that's clearthefog.org today. All right, you guys, Top comments from last episode. Betty writes, saying Erica never sought the spotlight is like saying Ben Shapiro never brings up Israel. And that is in response to Andrew Colvett who said, you know, Erica didn't want, ever want the limelight. It's like, I'm sorry, bud, have you paid attention to my Erica timeline? I can't find a moment when she wasn't seeking the limelight. This next user, Ted Bundy's ghost, writes, a woman who applied for numerous reality shows can never claim that she was not looking for the limelight. Yeah, it's an absurd, it's, it's, it's an absurd allegation that she was not ever pursuing the spotlight. It is just pointedly wrong. And I don't know why he would say it, but he just says stuff a lot of the time. And that's our guy. Andrew Colbert, your punishment is more truth. Comments on this episode, Lindsay Rowe writes, Candace, your ability to speak truth with clarity and humor is unmatched in a time that feels upside down. Your voice cuts through the noise. The sarcasm isn't just funny, it wakes people up. You are not alone. You've got an army behind you. You know, it was so good over the weekend. I did my first event in a really long time. You know, I had such anxiety leading up to it, the Catholics for Catholics event. Just because watching Charlie be publicly assassinated, not all of us could be like Erica who, like, was fine the next day and said she felt no fear. You know, I had a lot of fear and anxiety and apprehension. It just felt so good to get back out into the public and to see so many people at the airport and people that were swarming us. And you do need to plug back in with the fighters. Like, you need to go out and get together with people that are like Minded and to appreciate how, you know, loved you are all the time. You know, you need to go out and see people and take pictures with people and have them, you know, say, I listened to this and I had this little tidbit and I messaged you. So really just want to say thank you to you guys because it just felt like so rehabilitative to be out in public. And we just had a fantastic event at Catholics for Catholics. And I appreciate you guys more than you'll ever know. Jonathan by no writes, we love you and support you, Candice. Thank you for your voice. God bless you. Thank you, Jonathan. Anthony writes, please start calling it knee. No, no, no, wait. Nevada. I love this show and it disturbs me every time you call it Nevada. Connecticut's not doing that. Connect. Look at me, Anthony. Connecticut is not doing it. You. You. This is even different. You say Nevada, we say Nevada. And Ashley, you say Nevada. So where are you from, Anthony? Where are you from, Anthony? Nobody knows where you're from, Anthony, that you're saying Nevada. That's crazy. I. I need to know where in the US they're saying Nevada. It's Nevada, not Nevada. People in Nevada say Nevada. But that's just. That's just wrong. I don't just tell you. What does it even. What does it even come from? Like, what does the word Nevada mean? Actually, it'll help us more. We got to do a whole episode on Nevada one day. Venice writes, someone start the petition for Candace's nominations for Joe Kent's former job. I just always say I'm going to get called. I thought Turning Point was going to call me when they needed somebody in PR because I could help them. Like, hey, you guys have to pretend you're surprised about the Egyptian planes. Like you're concerned. You guys have to pretend like you're surprised that Joe Kent is saying that the investigation was plot. Was. Was blocked. You. You should be concerned, not angry. Concerned. I can help them with regular human emotions. You know, if everybody's a droid at Turning Point usa, they need me. I can go in there, give them a little bit of humanity. This is how humans feel when they hear misinformation. And I can help, you know, input their algorithms. They understand, cannot process. What do you mean? I'm supposed to feel sad or concerned? I'm here for that. Hire me, bonita. Ooh. Okay. Skyler's got something. The name Nevada, it's. Oh, it's Spanish originally from the Spanish adjective Nevada. So I'm definitely right, right? Yeah, yeah, like snow. But they say ada. They don't say. They don't say ada. There's no ADA in Spanish. Right, Skylar, you agree? You speak Spanish? See? Connecticut wins. What's up, Connecticut? In the chat. I'm representing. It's your girl. It's your girl, Candace. I told you I'd let you down, Connecticut. Bonita Joshua writes, hey, Candace, Support from South Africa. Keep fighting the good fight. Anthony, where are you from? Anthony. So I want to go back to Anthony. Where is Anthony from? Anthony's crazy. Craziest person ever wrote a comment is Anthony C. Zach run writes, let's throw the whole pot of spaghetti on the wall, see what sticks and how much falls on the floor. These people are pure evil. Take everyone not on their side out. It is sad to see Bongino become a little man. Trying to link Candace and Joe. Yeah, I didn't know what it was about. They were all over this. I'm like, guys, drop the receipts. I never got classified information from Joe Kent. Like I said, the person who told me about the text chain originally was Andrew Kollvet. So it's so wild to hear him sit up there and be like, oh, this is whatever. And again, why are you upset about that? Why are you upset about more information being given to the public? He says, well, I was trying to protect into people, innocent people that were lying to the public and saying Charlie never blinked on Israel when they were arguing with him the night before. Knew how stressed he was, knew how aggrieved he was. Those people are therefore not innocent people. Okay? Innocent people don't lie. They don't lie. Okay? I'm not saying they're guilty of a crime for lying, but I'm saying they're not innocent people because they lie. So anyways, let me not get fired up. It's been a fun Monday, you guys. If you'd like to support our show Merch on website. I'm gonna have some. Some Aubrey. Gotta get some Aubrey. I feel like I should be wearing an Aubrey hat. I don't know. I just can't believe what happened to Aubrey, bro. It hurts. We got new merch on the website. Candace Owens.com. easiest way to support the show. You can also buy my book. Everybody has been really enjoying that. You can get a bundle and you can have both of my books signed or you can just buy the book by itself. Make him a sandwich. It's. I'm really proud of that book anyway, and so I appreciate all you guys that. Tag me when you get it too. Please tag me on instagram. 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In this solo episode, Candace Owens addresses a rapidly escalating controversy involving Turning Point USA (TPUSA), the late Charlie Kirk, former counterterrorism director Joe Kent, and accusations that internal information—specifically a group chat—was leaked to her in a way that undermined TPUSA’s chairwoman, Erika Kirk. Candace unpacks a swirl of accusations, infighting among conservative influencers, claims of cover-ups, conflicting timelines, and mounting public suspicion following Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Throughout, she maintains her trademark mix of sharp analysis, irreverence, and combative energy.
| Timestamp | Segment | Speaker(s) | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------| | 00:30 | Setting up the controversy, TPUSA's anger at Kent | Candace Owens | | 02:19 | Joe Kent: Last conversation with Kirk, on Iran & Israel | Joe Kent, Candace Owens | | 03:08 | Joe Kent: Being stopped by FBI, foreign involvement | Joe Kent, Interviewer | | 04:21 | Candace: Reaction to Kent's disclosure, pressure at TPUSA | Candace Owens | | 06:50 | TPUSA influencers attack Kent, Candace unpacks their logic | Candace Owens | | 09:01 | Andrew Colvett: Admits passing chat to Kent | Andrew Colvett (on CK Radio) | | 12:53 | Candace: Andrew was source for text chain | Candace Owens | | 14:17 | The tarmac hug story, analyzing conflicting plane accounts | Candace Owens | | 25:24 | Candace: Aubrey forced to write Kirk death announcement | Candace Owens | | 29:10 | Egyptian/Y Refi plane movements and speculation | Candace Owens | | 33:58 | "That phone"—double devices and possible secure comms | Interviewer/Host, Candace Owens | | 41:47 | Joe Rogan’s show mocking Erika Kirk, discussing CIA videos | Joe Rogan, guest | | 44:29 | Candace reacts to Rogan; commentary on TPUSA’s reaction | Candace Owens | | 46:51 | Candace thanks supporters, addresses comments | Candace Owens |
This episode is a fast-moving, forensic dissection of an ongoing public scandal within TPUSA, as seen through Candace’s eyes. She lays bare contradictory narratives, internal paranoia, and a desire by some to punish truth-tellers rather than confront uncomfortable facts. Candace’s tone is relentless, sarcastic, and emotionally invested, interspersing hard evidence with pointed rhetorical flourishes and dark humor. The big takeaway: there’s growing consensus, both inside and outside the conservative movement, that something is amiss—and Candace, at least, is determined not to let it go.