Podcast Summary: Candace Owens – “Okay…These Text Messages Are Crazy!” | Candace Ep 307

Date: February 13, 2026
Host: Candace Owens
Format: Solo episode, direct and unfiltered commentary

Episode Overview

In this episode, Candace Owens delivers a freewheeling, deep-dive solo commentary, focusing primarily on the controversial and potentially inappropriate relationship between Erica Kirk (née Franzvi) and a then-15-year-old girl, Jillian, as revealed by a viral social media exposé and a series of damning text exchanges. Owens builds upon this by exploring connections between Kirk, child exploitation charities, oddities around Charlie Kirk's assassination, and surrounding Turning Point USA drama. Throughout, Candace uses her trademark candor and biting humor, supplementing her investigation with crowd-sourced tips, listener comments, and viral clips, while openly critiquing official narratives and public relations maneuvers.

Key Discussion Points

1. The Erica Kirk–Jillian Saga: Timeline, Evidence & Commentary

• Background: Viral revelations (first by YouTuber Nycee, amplified by Baron Coleman) about Erica Kirk's (then 25) relationship with 15-year-old Jillian Falcon in Michigan, 2013-2014.

  • Their first meeting was through a rental arrangement involving Jillian's friend's grandparents and Erica.
  • Exchange of phone numbers and development of a text/social media relationship.

• Nature of the Relationship:

  • Intensification from seemingly innocent exchanges to increasingly personal and arguably inappropriate messages.
  • Candace reads aloud and reacts to publicly posted tweets and screenshots.

• Sample Messages & Commentary:

  • Erica to Jillian:
    • “This Valentine's Day I am going to touch your butt.”
      (Reported by Nycee, 05:45)
    • “You have the most stunning features. Your eyes, your lips, your skin…you're absolutely beautiful.”
      (Reported by Nycee, 08:30)
    • “Let me call you…hold on sweetheart, give me a sec (sex*) wow…”
      (Reported by Nycee, 05:45)
    • Sent chocolate-covered strawberries with a card for Jillian’s 16th birthday:
      “Happy Sweet 16 beautiful girl…never forget you are perfect and amazing just the way you are. I am so proud of you…”
      (Reported by Nycee, 07:15)
  • Jillian’s reactions: At the time flattered and excited, now (age 27) acknowledges the situation was “absolutely weird” and questions Erica’s motives
    (Candace summarizing, 12:50)

• Candace’s Analysis & Critique:

  • “I'm trying to rationalize in my head under what scenario, if a 15-year-old…opened the door, would you exchange numbers with them?…I actually can't rationalize it.” (09:30)
  • Points out the lack of parental involvement, questionable encouragement for modeling photos, and Erica’s focus on Jillian alone.
  • Invites listeners to consider what they’d think if Erica were a 25-year-old man sending these messages to a girl.
  • “There is so much that disturbs me about that.” (10:00)

• Photographer Incident:

  • Erica arranged for Jillian, without her mother’s knowledge, to do a modeling shoot with an unknown male photographer (Jillian described him as “creepy”).
  • “Any photographer who is taking photos of a 15-year-old without their parents' consent is a creep. Find me this.” (17:05)
  • “What does all of this sound like? It sounds to me like every parent’s worst nightmare.” (18:18)

2. Broader Patterns: Charity Connections, Real Estate Oddities, and Organizational Ties

• Proximity to Child Trafficking & Scandals:

  • Multiple connections cited between Erica Kirk, child trafficking charities (notably Dream City Church/Phoenix Dream Center), and locations with history of trafficking.
  • “Who picked this location for a student activist organization?…Almost directly across the street from Arizona Mills…the number one human and child sex trafficking location in Arizona.” (19:18)
  • Notable figures in Erica’s circle have suspicious or notable backgrounds (e.g., Stacy Sheridan, alleged links to Ken Starr and Pepperdine University).

• Pattern Recognition & Supposed Coincidences:

  • Candace draws parallels between recurring motifs—proximity to trafficking, suspicious rentals, charity involvement—and the larger picture emerging from Turning Point USA and its associates.

3. Charlie Kirk Assassination: The "Color of the Day" Theory and PR Spin

• Color Coordination Amongst Attendees:

  • Owens asserts her theory that a “color of the day” (maroon shirts) signaled coordination on the day of Kirk’s assassination—a recognized method in covert operations.
  • “Way too many dudes are wearing maroon shirts…this many men really like maroon? I feel like there’s a color of the day here and everyone who’s wearing maroon is involved.” (29:29)
  • TikTok viral clip confirms DOJ/FBI documents reference “color of the day” for operations—with the Kirk assassination day’s color redacted. (31:15)

• Turning Point USA's Response to "Photogate":

  • Turning Point’s evolving explanations (moving of wedding photo from shelf) for details noticed by Owens; she sharply critiques these as "gaslighting" and “obvious emotional manipulation.” (33:16)
    • Owens satirizes the PR excuses, particularly the frequent invocation of Charlie and Erica’s daughter “Gigi” in alibis.

4. Listener Engagement & Appeal for Tips

• Open Questions:
  Candace solicits further information from listeners/researchers:

  • Who was Erica's acquaintance involved in the Batman Colorado shooting?
  • Anyone with school history (elementary/middle/college) with Erica in Ohio/Arizona/LMU?
  • Clarity on Erica's whereabouts (September 8–10).
  • The identity of the photographer involved in Jillian’s photo shoot.
  • She repeats her call: “Do not flood the inbox with extraneous info, but real leads only.” (24:00)

• Notable Fan Comments (selected with Candace’s humorous, often sardonic responses):

  • "I don't know about anyone else, but if my husband was assassinated and I did not sleep beside him on the last night that he was alive, I would be absolutely shattered." (Listener comment, 55:17)
  • “Be better. We’ll get into some more of your comments for today’s episode.” (Candace, 56:05)
  • Candace playfully banters about recurring requests for her book club, dives into speculation about possible government psyops and mass manipulation (Tavistock Institute, Beatles, 9/11, etc.).

5. Broader Rant: Epstein Files, Gaslighting & Elites

• Recap of Epstein File Debacle:
  • Candace plays a viral clip (Jared Moskowitz) summarizing the political circus and deflections surrounding the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, critiquing both Trump administration and establishment complicity.
  • “Shame, shame, shame on you for telling the truth about what we have put the public through…” (46:22)
  • Mocks the absurdity of shifting focus from child exploitation to economic indicators such as “the Dow is over 50,000…” (Pam Bondi clip, 47:17)
    • “How much more do you need to be distracted so we can go on worshiping Satan? I just don’t understand.” (48:39)

6. Turning Point USA Drama & Behind-The-Scenes Gossip

• Alex Clark/Paleo Valley Beef:
  • Owens relays an anecdote about Turning Point's Alex Clark allegedly pressuring podcast sponsors to choose sides.
  • “Sounds like me and Alex Clark got beef. Paleo Valley beef. Who does that?” (50:00)
  • Jokes about the absurdity of influencer “wars” and sponsor drama versus bigger crises.

Notable Quotes & Moments

(Attribution given to speakers, with timestamps)

• “You've never, as a 25 year old, decided to message a 15 year old about their lips and their skin and how perfect they are…Is that appropriate to say to a 15 year old? Come on, where are my Erica Spainers?”
  — Candace Owens, 09:30

• “Any photographer who is taking photos of a 15 year old without their parents consent is a creep. Find me this.”
  — Candace Owens, 17:05

• “Who picked this location for a student activist organization?…Almost directly across the street from the number one human and child sex trafficking location in Arizona.”
  — Candace Owens, 19:18

• “Way too many dudes are wearing maroon shirts…there’s a color of the day here and everyone who’s wearing maroon is involved.”
  — Candace Owens, 29:29

• “We have been so aggressively gaslit over the last six months that sometimes you forget how audacious and how positively traumatizing the manner in which our government just routinely lies to us is.”
  — Candace Owens, 41:40

• “How much more do you need to be distracted so we can go on worshiping Satan? I just don’t understand…Please, let’s talk about the Dao. Incredible. That’s where we’re at right now, guys. Up is down, down is up.”
  — Candace Owens, 48:39

• Listener comment:
  “I don't know about anyone else, but if my husband was assassinated and I did not sleep beside him on the last night that he was alive, I would be absolutely shattered.”
  — Malia, read by Candace Owens, 55:17

Key Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:58]–[09:02] – Nycee’s recap of text messages & initial commentary
• [09:02]–[13:00] – Candace’s personal analysis and context from her conversation with Jillian
• [16:19]–[22:00] – Candace details the modeling shoot arrangement and links to child trafficking themes
• [29:29]–[32:03] – The “color of the day” theory and analysis of event organization
• [33:16]–[37:05] – Turning Point USA’s response to “Photogate” and Owens' critique of their PR efforts
• [42:17]–[46:07] – Epstein file discussion: Jared Moskowitz’s summary
• [46:22]–[48:39] – Candace’s reaction to official responses, gaslighting, and societal distractions
• [50:00] – Sponsor drama & Alex Clark story
• [55:17]–end – Listener comments and Candace’s responses

Tone and Style

• Candace Owens’ Tone:
  Sharp, sarcastic, relentless, unfiltered—openly combines investigative fervor with personal opinion, social critique, and humor. She frequently breaks the “fourth wall” to interact with and tease her audience while venting frustration at institutional evasiveness and perceived official gaslighting.

Conclusion & Takeaways

• Candace Owens uses this episode to scrutinize potential predatory behavior and broader institutional failures, drawing explicit links to recurring patterns surrounding Erica Kirk, Turning Point USA, and the ongoing fallout of Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
• She leverages social media sleuthing, viral content, and direct audience engagement to challenge official narratives.
• Major open questions remain, especially regarding unexplained connections, PR spin, and missing information tied to Kirk and Turning Point USA—Owens pledges ongoing investigation (“we’ll have more…in the coming week”).
• Themes of manipulation, both on an interpersonal and institutional scale, recur throughout, as does Owens’s call for listener involvement and critical scrutiny.

Next steps:
The show will be off the air for a week, resuming on Monday, Feb. 23. Candace encourages tips related to open questions and promises to continue digging into these controversies on her return.