Podcast Summary: Candace Ep 230 – “President Macron Gives His Victim Impact Statement”

Host: Candace Owens
Date: August 19, 2025
Theme: Candace Owens responds to French President Emmanuel Macron’s lawsuit against her, analyzes recent developments in the “Becoming Brigitte” investigation, covers tangential scandals, and addresses listener questions with her trademark tone: sarcastic, unapologetic, and conspiratorial.

Episode Overview

This solo episode centers on Candace Owens’ ongoing legal and cultural conflict with French President Emmanuel Macron, specifically regarding his lawsuit against her tied to rumors about his wife, Brigitte Macron. Candace provides her take on Macron’s recent statements in Paris Match, revisits the mysterious case of Jean-Michel Trogneux, explores viral internet theories, and touches on other related controversies, always through the lens of free speech, media manipulation, and political theater.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Macron’s Paris Match Interview & Lawsuit Breakdown

[00:30–15:43]

• Main Event: Macron’s lengthy interview in Paris Match covers his lawsuit against Owens, where he refuses to say her name directly, refers to “enforcing the truth,” and defends legal action under the guise of protecting his wife’s honor.

  • Macron Quote (via Paris Match):

    “It is a question of enforcing the truth... It is not freedom of speech to want to prevent the restoration of the truth... She is someone who knew very well that she was holding false information, and she did so in order to harm in the service of an ideology and with established connections with far right leaders.”
    — [as translated and paraphrased by Candace, 06:30]

• Candace’s Reaction:

  • Mocks Macron’s avoidance ("He will not say my name. I’m feeling like Destiny’s Child right now. Say my name!"), calls him a “weenie,” and criticizes his reliance on a friendly journalist.

  • Attacks the lack of tough questioning in the French media, especially regarding why Macron doesn’t just provide full public evidence to disprove allegations, sue the French investigators like Xavier Poussard, or answer specific questions about Brigitte’s past.

  • Claims that Macron’s lawsuit amplified the rumors globally (“filed the lawsuit, then made it globally big”).

  • Memorable Quote:

    “He says, we don't have to think about speech here. We're going to prosecute, we're going to convict her. ... But if you want to defend your honor, wouldn't you just come out and do that [disclose evidence]? ... But no, he can't do that.”
    — [08:30]

2. Revisiting Jean-Michel Trogneux—The “Missing Link”

[15:44–27:23]

• Recap: Candace refreshes listeners on the timeline and mysterious disappearance of Jean-Michel Trogneux (alleged by some conspiracy theorists to be linked to Brigitte Macron’s identity).

• Claims:

  • Military file records show Jean-Michel’s activities from 1963 to 1981 are still classified by France, cited as a privacy issue.
  • Brigitte claims to have been in America for the 1969 Moon landing, but offers no public proof or detailed background.

• Internet Sleuthing:

  • A viewer alleges on X (Twitter) that a suspiciously familiar figure—looking like Jean-Michel—appears in a 1971 documentary about the infamous Stanford Prison Experiment.

  • Candace’s Attitude:

    “We are literally just asking questions… It’s always faster to just go to the public because the Internet sleuths are the best. This is like our own CIA.” — [16:55]

  • Summary of the experiment: Reviews the background of the Stanford Prison Experiment as a military-funded psychological study, with themes of manipulation, abuse of power, and possibly, theatrical staging.

  • Quote from the Experiment’s “Guard,” Dave Eshelman
    [18:22]:

    “Each day I said, well, what can we do to ramp up what we did yesterday? … Maybe, you know, having so much power over these poor, defenseless prisoners … you kind of get off on that a little bit.”
    — Dave Eshelman

• Unresolved:

  • Candace admits it’s likely a dead end, but laments the non-disclosure of identities: “No matter how much I dig into this experiment, I cannot just find a list of the 24 students that participated in this. … There’s no way for us to go through and … confirm that everybody here was just an American student.” — [22:52]

  • Calls on audience for tips and new evidence.

3. Israeli Cyber Official Las Vegas Scandal

[29:08–34:49]

• Update on a Separate Scandal:

  • Reports that an Israeli cyber security official (Tom RTM Alex Alexandra Alexandrovic) charged with attempting to solicit a minor in Las Vegas claimed to have recently met with NSA officials.

  • Candace’s Conspiratorial Spin: “Could you imagine the courage—the absolute audacity... Because we know we’re in control? Especially when you get to talking about cyber officials in Israel, they’re always like, ‘Oh, they help us. The Israeli tech is leading the day. That, that is why we have a relationship with Israel. ... To spy on us and to blackmail us. That’s what that tech is about, people.” — [32:01]

  • Compares federal response time and priorities to comparatively “mild” incidents (i.e., anti-Semitic campus spats) versus actual criminal activity with foreign actors.

4. Leo Frank Case and “Musicalizing” Tragedy

[34:50–40:10]

• Candace on NPR Announcement:

  • NPR promotes a new musical about Leo Frank, a Jewish man lynched in 1915 for the murder of Mary Fagan, a Catholic girl—a notorious case long debated in US history.

  • Strong Claims:

    • Asserts Frank was guilty, alleges ADL and Jewish organizations manipulate the narrative to rewrite history and vilify Catholics.
    • Links the ADL to Freemasonry and Sigmund Freud, claims their power comes from such rites and connections.

    “He was a despicable human being. ... The victim here is Mary Fagan. ... You guys have been doing that for a very long time. It’s why you hate Catholics. Because we remember history.” — [39:26]

  • Promises a future deep dive into the Frank case and its supposed connections.

5. Lawsuits and Free Speech: Melania Trump v. Hunter Biden

[40:12–44:30]

• Context:

  • Melania Trump threatened to sue Hunter Biden for $1 billion after he repeated a claim (originating from Michael Wolff) that Jeffrey Epstein introduced her to Donald Trump.

  • On Andrew Callahan’s show, Hunter refuses to apologize.

  • Transcripted Quotes:

    Andrew Callahan [37:18]: “He didn’t make these claims out of nowhere. They come from another journalist named Michael Wolff... But now here we are, and I’ve got a billion-dollar document in my hands because Mrs. Trump is seeking $1 billion in damages if we don’t take the video down and if Hunter here doesn’t issue a formal apology.”

    Hunter Biden [37:51]: “That’s not gonna happen.”

    Candace [43:18]: “I actually believe Melania... but it does follow that you would have to sue Michael Wolff ... before you could go for somebody repeating it. ... I do think that a lot of times we need to remember that he was not acting in bad faith.”

• Candace’s View:

  • Sides sentimentally with Melania but argues the lawsuit has shaky legal footing unless Michael Wolff is sued first for originating the claim.
  • Uses the episode to reiterate her critique of the “deep state,” mainstream media manipulation, and free speech threats.

6. Listener Comments and Historical Parallels

[44:31–End]

• Notable Listener Comment (Ana Maria Dominguez):

  • Shares rumor of Spanish monarch involved in sexual scandals, which Candace uses as a segue into discussions of Sabbatean-Frankism, conspiratorial European elite networks, and historical hidden power structures.

    “You guys have been doing that for a very long time. It’s why you hate Catholics... And I’m gonna hold onto it a little bit more so long as I have a platform, so help me God.”
    — [40:33]

• Candace on Research and “Going Back in History”:

  • Urges listeners to research history, claims world elites engage in perversion and secrecy for power, links it to contemporary scandals and the episodes’ central theme.

  • “This New World Order was established. It’s very clear that it was established. I would say there was kind of this global reset probably around, like, 1850…”
    — [47:30]

• Legal Comparisons:

  • Briefly recounts the Newsmax defamation settlement, the case with Dominion Voting Systems, and contrasts her willingness to go to discovery due to having “nothing to hide.”
  • Calls out the absurdity of heads of state being shielded from criticism and pledges to keep fighting in court.

• Paranoia and Call to Research:

  • Encourages audience to dig into any group or claim blacklisted by the ADL.
  • Urges continued investigation into world history and contemporary allegations.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Macron & Lawsuit

• “He’s just such a little punk. He refuses to say my name while also discussing me.” — Candace [00:34]
• “It is not freedom of speech to want to prevent the restoration of the truth.” — Macron, translated via Candace [06:20]

French Media & Brigitte’s Past

• “Why exactly is it that he won’t take the much easier path of defending his…honor by just asking his wife to publish photos from the first 30 years of her life?” — Candace [09:10]
• “He will not say my name. I’m feeling like Destiny’s Child right now… Say my name, say my name.” — Candace [11:50]

Stanford Experiment Deep Dive

• “We are literally just asking questions… the Internet sleuths are the best. This is like our own CIA.” — Candace [16:55]
• “No matter how much I dig into this experiment, I cannot just find a list of the 24 students that participated in this…” — Candace [22:52]

Israeli Cyber Official in Vegas Scandal

• “Could you imagine the courage—the absolute audacity. Not courage, the audacity. The level of I have no respect for your country, or rather no fear for your country. Because we know we’re in control...” — Candace [32:00]

Cultural Critiques

• “He was a despicable human being… You are not going to erase Catholic history. You’re just not gonna do it.” — Candace [39:26]

On Melania, Hunter Biden, & Michael Wolff

• “If this is something that Michael Wolff…has published…you would have to sue Michael Wolff…before you could go for [someone] repeating it.” — Candace [43:18]
• Hunter Biden, when prompted for an apology to Melania Trump: “That’s not gonna happen.” — Hunter [37:51]

Key Timestamps

• 00:30 – Macron interview recap and Candace’s reaction
• 06:20 – Macron’s “enforcing the truth” quote; Candace’s media criticism
• 09:10 – Candace on media’s failure to ask about Brigitte’s early life evidence
• 11:50 – “Say my name, say my name” Destiny’s Child moment
• 15:44 – Introduction to Jean-Michel Trogneux timeline and disappearance
• 18:22 – Stanford Prison Experiment: Dave Eshelman’s quote about sadism in the study
• 22:52 – Candace laments the lack of transparency about Stanford’s participants
• 29:08 – Israeli cyber official Vegas scandal and US authorities’ selective action
• 34:50 – Leo Frank musical and Candace on rewriting history
• 36:33 – Hunter Biden’s segment on Channel 5, prompted to apologize for Melania-Epstein claim
• 37:51 – Hunter Biden refuses to apologize: “That’s not gonna happen.”
• 43:18 – Candace’s legal analysis: Melania’s lawsuit and Michael Wolff’s culpability
• 44:31 – Listener comment on Spanish/Italian royal scandals; Sabbatean-Frankism
• 47:30 – Candace expounds on global resets and 19th-century cabals

Final Thoughts

Candace frames Macron’s legal action as emblematic of elite hypocrisy and media complicity, ties historical scandals to contemporary conspiracies, and calls on her audience to “keep asking questions” and do their own research. The episode blends news, opinion, and cultural commentary in her signature combative and irreverent style, leaving listeners with more provocative questions than answers.