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All right, you guys, happy Thursday. Sorry I am running late. I was just doing so much research. I have so much to tell you all today. So we have to jump right into this because I actually have a horror story for you. An actual real life horror story for you. Someone called me last night and told me a very strange story about what happened to her back in the 90s at an evangelical university. But first we have to revisit Brian Harpole's story about how far in advance they typically plan security. Because someone has leaked to me another glaring oddity in this security protocol. Let's jump right back in. Welcome back to cand. Do you know what I think? I think that whoever made the decision for Brian Harpole to sit down with Sean Ryan made a terrible mistake. Big PR mistake. PR nightmare. That's kind of been the story here. One long, bad PR decision after the next. Because the issue is Brian said too much. The Internet is meticulous. The Internet is clocking them every sentence. It's really easy to catch people in inconsistencies and then to keep replaying what they said about certain things, especially when they don't add up. So I would like to gently remind you all back at home what Brian Harpole said about what typical preparations entail for Charlie Kirk events. Take a listen.
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Let's move into the threat assessment and the pre planning for the event.
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Absolutely.
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How many days prior were you guys there? We generally, the permitting process and all that goes on behind the scenes. And then there's questionnaires that are filled out that we used to. There was a lot of busy work. And then so, you know, kind of like in the military, what you did, we create forms that, hey, let's get this information up front. And so that we have a duplication process so that we can confirm it. And so we started our first before that one, the 24th of the month prior. And so. And that was with the hard conversations meetings. You started that on the 24th, right? Two weeks at least. No, it started before that with the intelligence gathering and all that. But the hard conversations, the sharing of information, the conference calls, the data sheets, and we put that in a timeline on an app so that this all goes up and every guy that's on that job can see all the intel that comes in. It's a decentralized command model for the company. And so anybody can make command decisions for the betterment of the client or the team. And so everything goes on that app. And so when I get it, they get it. And when whoever's Gathering that intel. It gets it. There's no hold. There's no power hold on it. And so that first information came in on the 24th. And then the information share starts where we're walking through, you know, everything that you need for a detail.
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Everything that you need for a detail. Obviously, elsewhere in the interview, he describes this conversation that he had with the chief of police. He's upset about the chief of police not covering the rooftops because he feels that his team was on it. So on it, you're coordinating with whole police departments. You're discussing drones. Drones were not allowed. And so they just had to let that go. Well, interestingly enough, I received a tip from someone that was directly involved with the planning of an event that Charlie Kirk was supposed to attend the following day. On September 11, the day after his assassination, Charlie was slated to speak in Woodland Park, Colorado. Colorado, at the Chorice Bible College. Okay, so that's in Woodland Park, Colorado. He was slated to speak there. And according to this person, after Charlie got assassinated, there was a bit of a panicked meeting that took place which was headed by the chief of police. They decided to transform this event into a vigil. And they were panicked because, believe it or not, they had absolutely no. No security plan in place. They thought, how odd. We don't have a security plan in place. Now we better consider this, and we need to make sure that we have police officer involvements. Why didn't Dan Flood and Brian Harpel and Turning Point USA's security have any coordination with the police department up in Colorado? This is what they normally do. And, you know, whatever the way he over describes that, and they get the plan and everybody can access and start to begin to speak. Speak. And then we speak to the police. I mean, we do all this stuff. We just didn't think to do that. For the event that he had the next day. No police officer involvement scheduled, nothing. Suddenly they're panicked because they realize they don't have anything scheduled. Yeah. So the police chief apparently decided to take measures himself to make sure that the vigil went off without a hitch. That's what I mean when you lie a lot and when you're planning things you're not supposed to be planning, you don't think through every detail. Yeah. As in the next day. If you expected Charlie to make it to September 11th, you would have been communicating about what he was doing up at the Therese Bible College. Anyways, moving on to other news, I want to show you this working Excel sheet that I quickly put together today. So it is by no means perfect. But I was telling you that throughout this investigation I have noticed some recurring themes that have come up. I don't, didn't really know what all this means. I still don't know what all of it means. But I wanted to start jotting this down and putting it together so that it looks clean and we can just add another name every time a name comes up in any of these categories. This isn't how you're really supposed to use Microsoft Excel, but it's how I'm using it so that it looks neat. If you just look over here at the columns, these, these four themes that I'm identifying and I'm going to add more Liberty University, Eastern Europe trafficking and child sex abuse. And then in that final column military. These are just themes that I recognize keep coming up. So Liberty University very quickly going through this. Tyler Boyer attended and he graduated. Erica Kirk attended and she graduated. Cabot Phillips attended and he graduated. Mikey McCoy was accepted into Liberty University but then he chose not to attend because he got the job at Turning Point USA instead and he went direct there after high school. It should be noted that his father Rob McCoy met Charlie Kirk via Jerry Falwell Jr. He was the president of Liberty University until there was a sex scandal fallout. Andrew Colbert. I'll tell you what his connection is. Andrew Colbert was working PR for the Kairos company under Johnny Moore. Johnny Moore was the lead pastor at Liberty University prior to then leaving Liberty University to start the PR firm. And Johnny Moore is an important name for those of you who watch the Tucker Carlson had interviewed someone in the military. He was speaking about what was happening in Gaza, how children were literally starving, how children were being shot at for fun. Bizarrely they decided that Johnny Moore, Reverend Johnny Moore. Is it Reverend Johnny Moore? I don't know. He was somehow equipped to lead the Gaza Humanitarian Fund in and he gets this role essentially you're going to distribute your organization. You're going to be the head of distributing the food to the children of Palestine, the families of Palestine and obviously we know how that went. IDF soldier, just killing them. And so he does a lot to say. I have no idea why he got this position. It seems remarkably corrupt. Anyways, I wanted to let you know who that Johnny Moore was. He was just running pr. He's a PR guy like Andrew Colvett who was under him. And then Andrew Colvat leaves Kairos and decides to mint his own PR firm. That's really just around Charlie Kirk really as his only client. I, I believe that's his only client, Turning Point usa. Then you have the Falkirk center and put that in the same category. In case you don't know this, what happened was Jerry Falwell Jr. And Charlie Kirk decided to come together to establish the Falkirk Center. This was actually Turning Point USA, the precursor, Turning Point USA. Right. So he meets Rob McCoy, they start discussing putting this together, the Falkirk Center. And then Jerry Falwell has this huge sex scandal. He's forced to step down. It's like this pool boy scandal. He's forced to step down from Liberty University. And now this project just go. They go, we can't go forward with this. This is hugely embarrassing to the university. And this is now going to be a relic. By the way, at that time, Erica France, because her and Charlie were not yet married, they were dating. She became a Falkirk fellow. They were kind of hitting the road together and working to make the Falkirk Center a thing. And so what happened after it fell apart was that they decided to instead create Turning Point Faith. That's important for you to know that this. This origin in Liberty University, because I'm going to tell you more in a bit. Now, regarding Eastern Europe, remember that plane that sort of mysteriously people thought it turned off its transponder? They issued a statement saying they didn't turn off their transponder. It flew from Provo, Utah into Arizona. And then he said, we were just picking people up. Well, I'm putting that under because in investigating that, I determined that. Oh, interesting. They were formally registered. That plane. Pardon me, was formally registered in Romania back in 2013. The tail number was then Y, R, N, V, Y. Almost looks like navy there. Y, R, N, V, Y. And then in 2015. So from 2013, 2015, that plane was registered in Romania. Interesting. Okay. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. I'm just telling you that this is when these things have come up. Obviously, we know that Erica Kirk began the Romanian Angels project in late 2012, early 2013 through to 2015. And obviously you have seen all the tick tocks describing the scandal. And to explain that to you, just to kind of separate the myth from the facts of this, I'll tell you what the facts are. The facts are that Lori Francis established the Everyday Heroes foundation, which was supposed to help children in need, that was established in Arizona under Erica's mother's name, Lori Fransvie. What they decided to do as charities do, is that they develop certain projects and certain missions. And what spun out from Lori's charity was the Romanian Angels Project. And they got this deal with the military. They worked with the military in Romania to help orphans. Okay. Now, it is a fact that they worked with, at that time, Colonel Otto Buscher. Colonel Otto Buscher was then accused of running a brothel with young children, taking them onto the military base for himself, his sexual needs. A woman filed in Romania and said, this is what's actually happening. These children are going on to the base, and they're being prostituted to military men. So it was not. There is no articles that say Erica Fransky or Lori were involved in this, but it is a fact that they were working on the Romanian project with Colonel Buescher. They thanked him, and then Colonel Buescher gets accused of running a Romanian brothel with Romanian children. Those are the facts of that. In 2011, Tyler Boyer also went to Romania to work with the Romanian government. I am still trying to determine exactly what he was doing with them. I'll have more on that, hopefully later. In 2013, Tyler Boyer posted a photo of himself with a Ukrainian orphan named Natalia. She doesn't. He says in the post or his wife says in the post. Current wife says in the post that she doesn't speak English. Natalia. And he claims to be helping through an adoption agency program. Helping her because he speaks Russian. I can show you that photo. Actually, we have that photo somewhere. Skyler, can we pull up that photo of that post? Do you have that? Great. Here we go. Just so you guys know, we're making this up. This was posted by his wife. This is Natalia. She is 12 years old, and she's an orphan from Ukraine. She's staying with my friend Aubrey and her family for the holidays through an adoption agency program. She does not speak English, so Tyler was able to go and talk with her in Russian for over an hour tonight. She was shy at first. By the end of the visit, she was hugging him and asked him not to leave. It was a wonderful yet heartbreaking experience all at the same time. It makes me so grateful for all that we have. Thank you to the OBS report for letting us be a part of Natalia's day. Okay, next we have Turning Point usa, obviously working with Pastor Greg Laurie, despite Harvest Church being accused of trafficking children from Romania. Okay, sure. He says that's not true. That's not what we were doing. People say, yeah, it's exactly what you were doing. We know. We don't have a verdict on that because that's happening currently. Andrew K's brother Curtis is currently stationed in Romania as a lieutenant colonel. We have Tyler Boyer, who holds a degree in Russian Studies and is fluent in Russian, which is similar to Astrid Tumes, by the way, the president of uvu. She also holds a degree in Russian Studies and is fluent in Russian. And I should mention she's an orphaned child. Might be relevant, might not be relevant. Who knows? Rob McCoy, if you knew this, but he adopted a 12 year old girl named Natalia. She now goes by Natasha from Russia around 2006. Okay, so I don't know. It's these. These are just facts. I'm delivering the facts here now regarding trafficking, sex abuse. A N88 kg which is now currently owned by Derek and Chalene Maxfield. They run Sapra, which is a child abuse charity. Not. Not, you know, they're helping children that have been abused. A sex abuse charity. And then I told you guys about Colonel Otto Bushcher, who was accused of running a brothel with Romanian children from 2011 to 2015 at a Romanian military base in Romania. I should say, not a Romanian military base, an American military base in Romania. And yes, he worked with Romanian angels during that time period. Civilian commander. Sorry, Stationed at Fort Huachuca. A civilian commander that was stationed at Fort Huachuca. David Frodsham was charged with running a child sex abuse ring. That is true. TPUSA Faith works with Pastor Greg Laurie. As I told you, they are currently embroiled in a trafficking scandal. George Zinn was arrested and then it was determined that he had pornographic images. That's our decoy boy. Of children. On his phone. And as I told you, he told people at the hospital that he was treated at, that he would be paid if he did this. Now, he didn't know where the money was coming from, but all he had to do was jump up and down and say, it was me. It was me. Andrew Piscadlo, you might remember that name because early on pictures were circulating of him and people thought that he could have been the shooter because he was wearing the suits. And he actually. And people thought he maybe had a weapon in his bag. Ended up being that he was photographing, that he was taking pictures. He was a photographer not hired by Turning Point usa, but he has rang the alarm before on military Ukrainian sex trafficking that is happening in the United States. If you go through his Instagram, he has said, this is what's happening currently. They are trafficking children from Ukraine. And he did some investigation into that. So that came up when I was looking into him early on. Obviously, I've covered extensively. Cavalry Chapel, Chapel church riddled with pastor abuse stories. I mean, it's. It's a Thing. Okay. And then obviously we know Rob McCoy was trying to rehabilitate somebody who actually went to prison, said he found the Lord and decided to put him in into homes with children via Calvary Chapel. There's a lot of rehabilitating people who have an issue with abusing children. I would say at the Calvary Chapel Church. It's problematic. And I'm putting Glenn Beck and Tim Ballard's Operation Underground here. Actually, I knew, I learned about Operation Underground. That was introduced to me by Marissa Strait over at Prageru. She asked me to interview Tim Ballard before he had to step down from the charity, which was a child trafficking charity dedicated to rescuing children from being trafficked in war torn areas. Glenn Beck was the initial investment, as the story was told to me when I was at Prager U, when I interviewed him. Obviously we know Glenn Beck has interviewed Erica Kirk. We know that Glenn Beck also, his children were there at UVU when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. He was one of the first people to speak out about that on the news on September 10th. And Tim Ballard's name strangely came up when we were looking into Phil Lyman and we learned that he paid Tim Ballard a visit in the days following the assassination, which was just Tim Ballard's name coming up was just interesting to me because I was like, oh, he runs also a child trafficking chair. It's a lot of that, just a lot of that happening. And also I should mention Derek and Chelaine Max Field who run this abuse charity. In their profile pictures, they were wearing an Operation Underground shirt. So people are very passionate, I would say, about trafficking and putting together organizations to stop trafficking in this story. Now, in terms of our military connection, it is extensive. Like I said, this is by no means a definitive list. I put this together today. Andrew Colvett's brother and cousin are captains in the military. Curtis Colvett and Robert Colvett. Rob McCoy's father, Roy Edgar McCoy ran psychological operations for Naval Intelligence to shape public perception. His son Danny McCoy is currently in the military. And yeah, he had a whole naval fleet named after him actually. So top, top dog. Top dog. We obviously know Erica Kirk has been open about the fact that her mother and her father have do defense related military work. It's why she moved to Arizona in the first place, because they had contracts with the DOD and we know that her father has worked with Raytheon. The Farnsworth family has extensive military connections. I will add more about that later and we will cover that later because the Farnsworth Farnsworth family in general is important to the story. Dr. Frank Turek was a naval flight officer for eight years. His son, Frank Turek III, is a deputy officer, deputy division chief, pardon me, at the Joint Chief of Staff in dc. His other son, Spencer, is an Air Force vet. He was on the phone with, I think he said, both of his sons FaceTiming with both of his sons. Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe it's one of his sons he was FaceTiming with the Hades military plane, which we haven't discussed too much, but I promise we will get there. Inexplicably flew this route around UVU on the day of the assassination, just before and just after, which is interesting because that plane in particular has a lot to do with drones. Again, we'll get more into that in a future episode. And then of course, the doctors. Dr. Lee Trotter did his residency on an Air Force base and he also has his pilot's license. The Utah Medical Examiner, Dr. Deidre Amaro, is a Major Butch Hibbs. We have Jack Hibbs, their father, Butch Senior, military background. And I suspect Butch Hibbs also perhaps is involved in the military himself. We are looking for something a bit more concrete on that now. I wanted to present that to you because I want to focus on building that so you can see these themes recurring. But today we're going to talk more about Liberty University because I received a very interesting set of tips about Liberty University, particularly yesterday I was contacted by someone. Well, actually, I should say I spoke to someone yesterday. I was contacted by them many times via email, pleading for me to call. She was pleading for me to call her. It wasn't really clear to me as to why there seemed to be a panic. She was seemingly triggered by a video regarding Trump pageantry. Okay. The video in question is not controversial and she has no connection to the person in the video, which was Erica Kirk, simply discussing how she got involved with with the Trump pageant world, hence why I was not exactly seeing the big picture. She doesn't know Erica. She had nothing to say about how Erica knew Trump pageants, but her speaking about it was triggering for her. Anyways, after a lot of back forth, I decided to just call her. I had some time yesterday to see why Trump pageantry in general was so triggering to her. And she began to tell me a story that was quite unbelievable at first until I did some research. This woman whose identity I am going to protect at this moment was a young teenager in the 90s and she had landed herself in a bit of trouble. She wound up with a probation officer. And she also got pregnant. And they essentially told her, hey, you know, you're either going to get your life together, Sort of this ultimatum. We could send you to juvie or you could go away and we'll give you an opportunity here. There's this amazing new program that's being run out of Liberty University which helps troubled teens, which. You are a troubled teen. She was thirteen at this time, so obviously they made the decision for her to take the option. It's like when the judge says, hey, you can go to rehab or you can go to prison. Obviously, I'm gonna go to rehab. So she chose to go down to Lynchburg, Virginia, while she was pregnant to live in a house with other troubled girls who were being helped through a program that was known as the godparent program. It still is a thing today. Effectively, they help these young women on who are struggling with various other things, but particularly with her and the women that she was sharing rooms with their pregnancy journey. And they offer to help place their children into adoptive Christian homes should they choose not to keep their children. Sounds nice enough. That seems like, you know, the Christian spirit pro life and don't have an abortion. Instead we can have a home for your child to be raised in. But things got pretty weird after that. And I want you to listen to what she told me in this conversation, which I recorded. And, yes, I have her permission to share this conversation. I'm sorry if this sounds, you know, not too clear. We tried to make it as clear as possible. And. Yeah, let's just roll it. It's going to be quite long, but it's very important. Take a listen.
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When I got the Liberty God parent home, which is what took me in in 90, like 94, they used to lock in our. Lock us in our room 24 hours a day. We had a. We were locked in our room. We weren't allowed visitors. We weren't wearing people at our home. I didn't have no visitors because I didn't have no family there. Of course. And I'm shaking. I didn't have no family there, so I didn't have nobody. They used to take weird pictures of us.
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How old were you?
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I'm sorry, go ahead.
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How old were you? I was.
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I had to be 13, 14.
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Okay. And who. Who took pictures?
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79. Who took pictures of you? Followers. Senior. Senior. And then his face looked familiar, but he looked older. Now you're talking 30 years ago, you.
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Know, but like, Jerry Falwell senior was the one actually taking the photos.
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Yeah, they. I remember him and his wife there. But another thing weird about it is I never thought about like what happened the night and the night, morning I delivered my baby. Everything was weird. And I think about it now, it's all weird to me. But then it wasn't because I was only 13, 14 years old.
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Right.
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I mean, I made mistakes. I mean, I totally turned my life around. I have four kids now with two grandbabies. But, you know, I.
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I want, I want to go back to. So what was weird about that night that you gave birth?
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Oh, gosh, the, the night before. Okay, so they have a mother, a house, a live in mother, 24 hours. I called there like a month and a half ago, two months ago. This is what's weird. I called there right after I prayed. I called there because this video of Erica came up with Trump and you have to get invited. And I was like, how in the world did I get invited? And, and, and to this day, I still don't know how world I got invited to that and what pictures they had of me.
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Interesting.
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I'm stuck.
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Okay, okay, so you had the baby. And what was weird about that night?
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Okay, the night before, they. Okay, like I said, they have house mothers. And, and I, I can't remember details, but I remember them doing, you know, putting the probe, listen, the heartbeat pretty much, and looking at, you know, doing the ultrasound. Okay. To this day I've had, you know, four other kids, plenty of ultrasounds. So I know what they were doing was funny to me because everything was fine that night. And then they moved me, which was weird. They moved me to another room by myself.
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Okay.
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At that time, I had had another girl with me. There's all these girl, different girls there, and some of them don't even speak English. Okay.
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How, how old are. Sorry, How. How many girls live in that house?
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Back then there was about like between 12 and 15 on one house. But you're talking anywhere from age 12 to like 21 years old. You know, I didn't get that. My mom's the youngest, but.
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And some of them didn't speak English.
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Yeah, there was a couple girls, you know, they didn't speak English, but we weren't allowed to. That's another thing. We weren't allowed to like talk to the other girls. We were only allowed like, certain girls were on one, one certain side of the hallway. Certain girls were on the other certain side of the hall hallway. Back then we had to either call collect or use quarters.
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Okay.
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On a pay phone. You know, they didn't they didn't allow us to use the regular phones. They treated us like slaves. But the next morning, it's like they knew something was going to happen to my baby or something because the next morning I all of a sudden didn't have a heartbeat. And I had to go in. But the strange thing about it is their daughter, this is another thing I thought about. Their daughter is a high doctor at the Liberty or at some university, some hospital in Lynchburg, Virginia.
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Okay.
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And back then, if I remember correctly, their daughter was like one of the house mothers.
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Okay.
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And I'm wondering if their daughter was like my nurser. Yeah, lady. It gave me something to miscarry. Because see, the thing is, is they coerced us to give up the baby because they got money for their adoption. It was some kind of adoption ring. I didn't know nothing about it. But my thing was, is that I kept telling them no, I wanted to keep my baby because I had a three year old nephew and I had took care of him. I thought I could mother. It was, it wasn't for me, okay? Honestly, I was too young.
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Okay?
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But still I have questions because now I keep seeing stuff and I'm like, why are these, all these videos coming up on my feeds for no reason, you know?
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Can I ask you a question? Sure. Did. Are you saying that you miscarried the baby?
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Yeah, but I was further along and they kept telling me I had to hurry up and make up my mind and make up my decision. Decision, because I'm running out of time. I have to hurry it up. And I'm like, why do I have to hurry it up?
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Hurry what up? Hurry what up?
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Decide if I want to adopt the baby out. They kept showing me folders of people's faces. Would you like your baby to be with this person or would you like to go raise your baby somewhere else or on the street or.
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Okay, and then here's a question for you. How far along were you when you miscarried?
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You know, I was asking my mom that. And truthfully, I have called down there to find myself, to find dates out and I can't even find myself actually in their system. That's another thing. That's weird.
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That's very special.
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I've called down there this past few weeks just to find out information on myself. I even called my own probation officer, which he called me back last night. He was actually telling me information and he told me, you know, back then I wasn't a bad kid. I just skipped school because I stayed home and stuffed in. My mom got in trouble for. I went Julie for it. I'm sorry.
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Wait. But just. I just want to stick to the story of the.
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Okay.
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To stay focused. The. You don't know how pregnant you were when you had a miscarriage?
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Well, I can tell you I was probably. Well, I had. They had to induce the labor.
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Okay. They.
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I had to deliver. So if that tells you I was over three, four months. Yeah, I was over.
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So let me tell you what is really interesting about this particular conversation. Well, Liberty University is involved in. And you hear she broke down crying several times throughout the conversation. There was obviously real pain there. And what's really interesting is that she told me thereafter that while she can pull all of her court records, Liberty University is sort of like, you know, it's all electronic now. You're talking about the 90s. We can't find you. We can't find you. We had. You had a baby in a house when you were 13 years old, and we can't find you. By the way, where's the baby buried? I asked that question to her, and she said, what happened after she gave birth was they told her. They called her mom and they said that she's got to go. I said, how do you know the baby was dead? You're telling me they moved you into a room and they induced labor after you said, I don't want to give up my child. They induced labor. They told you a child that yourself, that there was no heartbeat. Mysteriously, right after you made the decision that you didn't want to give up your child for adoption, you felt like you're being pressured now, there's no heartbeat. They induce labor. You never see your son, that you said she had a son. She never saw anything. They tell your mom she's got to pick you up asap. That's what she goes on to tell me. Because they didn't want the other young women to be traumatized learning that she had a miscarriage. So the middle of night, her mom drives up and gets her, picks her up. Funeral. Is there a headstone? What happens when there's a induced labor at Liberty University? This is. This is unbelievable. Now, why she was triggered when she heard Erica speaking about Trump Pageantry to connect that dot for you is because Erica had said, you know, you have to submit your pictures. Well, she goes back home, she's still a teenager, and two years later, she gets an invite to join Trump Pageant World. But she doesn't know how they got her picture. She doesn't know how they Got her picture. She wasn't taking pictures. She wasn't trying to be in Pageant World. And so that's what triggered her and went, wait a second, how do they get my picture? Why were they taking these weird pictures? She never said that they were. They were sexual, by the way. I'm sure they probably said to her at the time at that house, like, so that we can submit your picture to the Christian adoptive families, whatever it is. But it sort of clicked to her that that's kind of odd that I got this invitation to join Trump Pageant World. Now, for those of you who have followed our Epstein series, we spoke about this. Xavier Pusard showed that this was one of his mechanisms. Jeffrey Epstein, Israel's guy, would go find organizations where there were tons of young women that were coming through and he would pump money into them, like Victoria's Secret. And maybe some trafficking happened. Right. By the way, the history of pageantry, for those of you that don't know, it's child sex trafficking, it's the carnies, it's P.T. barnum and Bailey in America. What was going on at carnivals, historically speaking, was very dark stuff. Very dark stuff. Anyways, in case you aren't believing the story, because we know what happens next. They. They do the Mitch Snow thing. Oh, she's crazy. She's making this up. It's all an illusion. Well, the good thing is that there's actually an entire podcast series that is currently investigating this godparent program at, literally, Liberty University. And these women have done incredible work. So much work that it actually got picked up locally in Virginia by ABC News. Take a listen.
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The Liberty godparent home place for young.
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Single pregnant women is defending itself against.
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Allegations of coercion and manipulation.
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A new podcast called Liberty Lost alleges.
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Some of the young women felt pressured.
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To place their children for adoption. ABC13's Rachel Branning investigates.
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The Liberty Godparent home is tucked away on Liberty Mountain Drive. The Maternity Home was founded by Jerry Falwell Sr. In the 80s as part of a pro life ministry at Thomas Road Baptist Church. Now it's the focal point of the podcast Liberty Lost. What inspired you to investigate this in the first place? For the last two years, I've been investigating the Maternity Home after connecting with several residents who went through the home as pregnant teenage girls Both in the 1990s and in 2008. One of those residents, Abby Johnson, At 16, she got pregnant. Finding out I was pregnant was traumatic and shocking and not something I had any preparation for mentally, socially, emotionally. Her Parents sent her across the country to Liberty Godparent Home with the promise of a scholarship to Liberty University. After all was said and done, I really can't describe the sense of abandonment and fear and disassociation that you experience when your family abandons you, all the while calling it something like, good for you, and like, this is a plan. Johnson says she wanted to keep her son. However, she felt the home already made the decision to go the adoption route. Did you ever really feel like you had a choice?
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I felt that I was put in really terrifying moments of being given an opportunity to explain to an adult that had a different opinion how I thought I could pull it off. The godparent Home declined my request for an interview, but sent a statement saying in part, quote, our staff and volunteers work tirelessly in this ministry and have built a reputation of being a trusted voice and ministry resource in the community. They have treated every, every individual who has sought assistance with compassion and integrity. Did you feel supported in any way by the people within the home? No. I felt endlessly put off. Rafael says in theory, maternity homes are a good thing. These women should have been supported and provided with real options to keep and parent their children if that's what they wanted to do. But she says the godparent home shouldn't have ties to an adoption agency. According to city records, the godparent home and the Family Life Services adoption agency share an address. Thomas Road Baptist Church founded Family Life Services, according to their website. I reached out to them multiple times for comment about the allegations in the podcast. We just want to make sure we're sharing all sides of this story, but I haven't heard back. Johnson and Rafael say for them, speaking out is the path forward. Help people feel like they have a voice that they're not forgotten. I also reached out to the godparent home. I asked if they can put me in contact with residents who have had a positive experience in the home. But at this point, I haven't gotten a response back to you.
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I would imagine that I would respond to that and I'd say, yeah, tons of people had a positive experience. And again, the woman that I spoke to, you can see she was there when it was Jerry Falwell Sr. Who we're going to speak about in a little bit because I'm going to connect even more dots for you. You know, what I want to say is we all felt, for some reason, spiritually sick watching Amfest. Right? Tim Dylan did such a good job of saying this feels like something else, like they just keep saying that this is about God and this is about the Lord and this is about almost like they were trying to turn Charlie into a messianic figure. And yet we felt darkness there. We felt darkness. We felt like this was actually about money. We felt like we were being diluted. We felt like it was a Las Vegas convention. And I have been speaking throughout the last year, even before Charlie Kirk got assassinated. I dedicate a lot of time, this podcast, to speaking to you about this veneer of Christianity. Operation Mocking Pastor returned, we termed it, and we really start saw them start to ratchet that up after Charlie Crook's assassination. These influencers. Well, this is, this is the Lord. This is what the Lord would want. Yeah, we're going to talk more about that and I'm going to tell you more about the founding of Liberty University right after a brief break. Well, it's certainly a time in America. We've had skyrocketing inflation, surging national debt, market volatility, never ending wars, bank failures, and yes, even assassinations. I believe it's important to look out for yourself and help protect what's important to you. And the same holds true for your money and your savings. Of course. That's why I've partnered with a great precious metals company, which is Goldco. They've helped tens of thousands of Americans protect their money with gold and silver. 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Because when you invest in your health, you invest in your ability to show up, think clearly, and stay in control no matter what life throws your way. If you want an easy way to take care of yourself while you're taking care of everyone else. We've worked out a special offer for my viewers. You'll receive 30% off your first subscription order by visiting Armra. That is a a r m r a dot com Candice. And you can enter code CANDACE at checkout to get 30% off your first subscription order. That's a r m r a dot com Candice. So back to Liberty University. Now, I have been signaling to you guys, like I said, that there is something very wrong with these mega churches in America. There's very wrong with almost what I would term Christian Inc. These Christian influencers, suddenly they look like they're glitching a bit, right? Something happened in the last year, and we're like, oh, I used to kind of like you, and now you seem to be glitching inside of this matrix. You're telling us it's right here in the Bible. You seem overly invested in certain narratives. Suddenly this is beginning to feel like, well, a psychological operation that's being orchestrated by Israel because you sort of missed it. If your whole brand is Christianity, but you decided to stay mum on the atrocities that Israel is committing in Gaza, this probably isn't really about Christianity, is it? The Bible's pretty clear. Thou shalt not kill. Children, especially I. If I could. If I could offer an addendum. Children, especially innocent souls. And yet they're remarkably mum on the issue of Charlie Kirk. They had more ire for Candace Owens investigating it than they did for the FBI. No interest. Shut it down. Right. Shut it down. How dare you say he's Catholic. That's what's wrong with this. You saying anything about Catholicism is wrong. Glitch. Glitch. Oh, Josh Hammer's lying. Let me tell you, he's a wonderful human being. Glitch. Glitch. I'm sorry. Lying. Shouldn't you just be able to call a spade a spade? No, they can't, because they represent something else. Now, I want to be clear. I have spoken at Liberty University multiple times, and I promise you, I never thought once to look up their origin story. I was just so excited that there was a Christian university in general. And they were remarkable to me when I spoke there. And I wasn't looking, I guess, for anything deeper. I didn't see how I was also being manipulated in various ways early on in my political career. So color me surprised to learn that Liberty University was once failing and then it received a ton of funding. Honestly, the story of how it came to be the university that it is today is quite interesting. Someone emailed Me. And they wrote, and I quote, hi, Candace. I'm currently reading the Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer. And in the book, it talks about how the Israeli government gave Jerry Falwell, Liberty University's founder, Jerry Falwell Senior, a two million dollar jet in 1979. Adjusted for inflation, that's like ten million dollars. And that was to gain support from evangelicals in America. I figured it would be helpful for your deep dive of Israel buying evangelicals, end quote. So that's interesting. That tip does seem like something I should explore. Probably is helpful. And it's true. Jerry Falwell Sr. I should tell you, had a rather radical conversion to Christianity when Israel became a Nation in 1948. Now, prior to that, this is according to the Washington Post. He came from a family that definitely had some issues. His daddy, a man named Carrie Hezekiah, was a drunk and he was a bootlegger. Okay? He was a bootlegger and he was a drunk. And he got into a fight with his brother once. This is literally his brother. His name was Garland, and he shot him dead. And to be even clearer here, his dad wasn't just a bootlegger. Kerry was not just a bootlegger. He was also a smuggler and a trafficker. Okay? So he pretended like he was just a business owner that was running a string of gas stations, ostensibly. But in reality, he was using his fuel trucks to smuggle bootleg whiskey into America during the time of Prohibition. It's giving Trog no liquors. You know, as we started getting into season two of becoming Brigitte, I'm like, wow, a lot of people were smuggling things into America anyways. I keep telling you guys that the people that rule over us, the people that have these huge platforms, they are not smarter than us. They're just more corrupt than us. They won't do anything to maintain their power. And they really are the heirs of gangsters. Back to Carrie. After he shot his brother dead, he became a rather nasty alcoholic. His employee one time. This is a true story as documented by Rolling Stone. His employee stayed home sick one day. So Falwell got mad. He decided to catch the man's cat that he loved, and he killed the cat. Then he cooked the cat, and then he delivered the remains of the cat to the employee's house for lunch. Yeah, that's why I went with the thumbnail title, Don't F with Cats. Because now we have to find Charlie Kirk's murderer. For those of you who watched that series. Now, according to Forbes, he also once threw A man into a bear cage after he had an argument with him at one of his restaurants. So, yeah, he had a colorful background. Indeed. Like I said, these people are gangsters. But in 1948, the very year that Israel became a nation, Carrie Hezekiah died from cirrhosis of the liver. And his son, Jerry Falwell senior, had an immediate radical conversion to Christianity. Bootlegging, trafficking, smuggling be damned. Because his business was now going to be the church ministering, he became a televangelist and he established Lynchburg College in 1971, which would eventually change its name to Liberty University. Liberty University that we know today. And yes, it is true, in 1979, Jerry Falwell Sr. Was gifted a Learjet from the founder of the Lacude party, then Prime Minister of Israel, Metakim Begin. Now, that's pretty nice of Israel, but I always am wondering, in exchange for what? Like, in exchange for what? Because that kind of reminds me about how Bibi. Net and Yahoo wanted to take Turning Point to the Turning Point USA to the next level. He offered to take Turning Point USA the next level. Charlie Kirk said no, but apparently nobody in the mainstream media is interested in answering the question as to why he wanted to take Turning Point to the US to USA to the next level. What does Israel have to do with Young evangelicals, a young evangelical organization? Also, how? That's my other big question. How exactly was he planning to get that money into Turning Point usa? I'm assuming he wasn't going to write like a blank check from a Likud party. Surely he was going to accomplish accomplish that through other people and their organizations. Because Israel never gets their hands dirty if they can avoid it. That's the lesson of yesterday, by the way, you employ Christians to do your dirty work. And I got another clue from a different email tip that I received regarding Liberty University. It reads. Hi Candace, I have some links that might be important for you in your investigation regarding connections between the Iran Contra scandal and Liberty University. Now, to remind you, the Iran Contra scandal was a a trafficking scandal that involved our government, the CIA, of course, the Mossad. Jeffrey Epstein was involved in the Iran Contra scandal. If the Mossad is to be believed, that's how they first brought him in. Running weapons through South America. And the CIA and the Mossad got caught involving. They were trying to control what was happening in South America. And yeah, they were arming people to take over countries. That's kind of what our CIA does. Anyways, the reason how this involves Liberal University is that during the Iran Contra scandal as the email goes on, a man named Sun Young Moon, a North Korean evangelical cult leader, assisted the CIA in its so called anti communist efforts. That's how they build what they were, what they were doing. During the Iran Contra scandal in Central America, he used his logistics network through the churches to aid the Contras. Through his Unification Church, he connected and their connected organizations like CA USA. And he also ran PR for the Reagan administration regarding US's involvement in Central America through his newspaper, the Washington Times. Okay, so what's important is that this son, Young Moon later would bail University, Liberty University out. The person in the email said roughly the amount was 20 to 40 million dollars in the mid-1990s. Now I find it extremely interesting, I mean, sorry, this person wrote to me. I find it extremely interesting that the same evangelical cult leader who worked with federal agencies and profited from the Iran Contra scandal also financially rescued Liberty University and how Liberty University might be connected to the drug smuggling military base. He's referring to Fort Huachuca. That was the reason he sent the email discussing Fort Huachuca. Interesting indeed, I would say, because we've got a story about the Feds smuggling, Christianity, Israel, South Korea. Did all that actually happen? Yeah, that it did actually happen. And the Washington posted a fantastic article breaking down what became known as the Moon Cult in an article that they published in 1997. As that cult was beginning to fade, or I guess their power was beginning to fade here in America. And it's stunning because if you close your eyes and imagine, you start to see Turning Point USA and Turning Point USA faith. Everything that I've been describing, I kept saying from the very beginning, what went wrong in that Turning Point USA was this faith push. I've been telling you. I'm going to show you that these Egyptian planes, I've showed you in part, we're tracking Turning Point USA faith. These pastors, okay, what's going on with these quote unquote Egyptian planes that happen to look like they're going into Gaza actually. So I'm going to read you parts of this article regarding the Reverend Sun Moon, his Unification Church, he declared himself just, you know, a messiah. So when we start to see how it feels like they were trying to establish Charlie as a messianic figure and it's all become somehow about money. They don't actually care about Charlie. It's like, how much money can we make? We're going to put the tent up. We're going to make it. People just, here's the bloody mic. We're putting it in a thing. It feels like I said a seance wanting to imagine that as I tell you about what Sun Moon Unification Church estab accomplished in America rather and yes, attached to the Iran Contra affair and Israel and pumping money into Liberty University. Okay, now it tells us that their Unification Church fault was faltering as a religion in the United States, but it still remains a robust, diverse business. Again, this is 1997, especially in the Washington area where the movement controls more than 300 million in commercial, political and cultural enterprises. It tells us that the organizations owned or sponsored by Moon and his inner circle of Korean and American followers holds properties stretching from Prince George to Fairfax County. According to corporate property and court records, this vast and bewildering multinational could be called Moon Inc. It is a sprawling collection of churches, nonprofit foundations and for profit holding companies in the Washington area. The Unification Church's investment is an important cog in a global machine that Moon uses to boost his credibility, spread his spiritual doctrine and win political influence, according to current and former church members. As the Unification Movement evolved from selling roses on street corners to acquiring control of a nationwide cable channel, the nation's capital became the epicenter of Moon's U.S. holdings. Those include the Washington Times, Washington Times newspaper, a video production firm, a stately old church once the pride of The Mormons along 16th street, northwest Washington area property owned by the church, its affiliated companies or senior church officials is worth more than $200 million, according to property and corporate records. A lot of property. I was telling you. Turning points Getting into real estate. It's very interesting they're getting into real estate according to a tip that I have because they're going to teach young conservatives how to buy houses. I'm sure Tyler Boyer leading the charge Washington will be the focus of the worldwide Unification movement this week as Moon sponsored organizations are going to hold a series of academic conferences and the World Sports and Culture Festival culminating Saturday with a mass wedding at RFK Stadium. The South Korean self declared Messiah has grown increasingly vehement within the Unification Movement. Moon's spiritual and business ventures are viewed as a part of a unified whole quote. Ideas without the money to back them up are just dreams, end quote, said Richard Rubenstein, the president of the movement controlled University of Bridgeport. The corporate section is understood to be the engine that funds the mission of the church. I am telling you this is like almost verbatim if you were to read statements about Turning Point USA and their spin offs. We need the money to do the work. This is what we're going to it's going to be the 501C3, the 501C4 and turning point action. This is where it's all going to come together. It goes on to tell us that since the 1970s, Moon has gained his highest profile in this country, not with his church, but with the Times, the 100,000 circulation daily that competes with the Washington Post. But the paper has become an established voice of conservative America. Beyond the Times, Moon affiliated entities are linked by a complex web of interlocking directorships and nurtured by a seemingly endless flow of cash from the Far east that has enabled them to buy new businesses and even help to bail out Reverend Jerry Falwell's foundering Liberty University. Again, this is 1997. Executives of Unification Related Entities have acknowledged that money from Japan and Korea are fueling their U.S. operations. But the magnitude and the mechanism of those payments as well as their exact sources have eluded investigators on three continents over the past three decades. Let me slow that down for you. So you're telling me we have a faith based organization with a political arm that is stretched into evangelical churches that's working with Israel and helping the CIA traffic arms at one point through churches and the presence of their church. And now you're telling me that when they started looking into where this money was coming from, it's actually eluding them how the money is coming from Japan and Korea. And wasn't that Charlie's last trip was early? He went to Korea. We're going to get to that. And then after he went to Korea and met with a pastor, that pastor got arrested again, we're going to get to that. And then after he went to Korea, he went to Japan. I'm just saying the past is feeling like it's a bit prologue. Why was Charlie going to a build up? What does Charlie Kirk have to do with Korea? Turning point faith pushing you into Korea. A lot going on in South Korea, by the way. Like lol. I saw this article about how they suddenly established a Holocaust museum. I was like, there goes the neighborhood. Do we have that article? Yeah. South Korean Christian Zionists opened the country's first Holocaust museum. I should add that to my timeline because there goes the neighborhood. We're coming. You can't question anything. We're gonna call you Hitler. Sorry, South Korea, you're so cooked. Okay. Anyways, jumping back into this, into this article before I show you what happened when Charlie went to Korea and a pastor then got arrested, it tells us that Moon Inc. Sorry, let me flip this wrong side. Moon's business. Moon's businesses exist for several purposes. Church leaders and critics agree to employ members to gain influence in industries that Moon considers crucial and to support Moon's spiritual and political agenda. Sometimes that support is direct, as when Moon's nonprofit organizations contribute to conservative political and social causes with financial donations, staff and publicity. And sometimes it's indirect, as when Moon sponsored groups stage academic, religious and cultural conferences, inviting professors, clergy, media executives and other opinion shapers to meetings, all expenses paid. Oh, that reminds me of Turning Point USA Faith. I told you they were embarking on this pastor summit. They were going to bring all of these Christian Zionist influencers training. They had a pastor summit led by Rob McCoy as I showed you that Sean Foy, they were going to lead this up, pumping in money. This is what was growing Turning Point Faith, which was spun out of Liberty University. So this feels especially relevant. It goes on to say that they'll have a conference on the essence of religious founders. This is a guy who was an ex Catholic priest. His name was Borderland. He says, quote, they'll have a conference on the essence of religious founders like Buddha, Jesus. And then Moon gets a room full of academics to sit there. He gets his picture taken with them. He gets credibility. They get to have their conference. It's all very messy. End quote. Borderland, like many people who have received some of Moon's generous bounty, has never been able to figure out the blizzard of organizations that make up Moon Inc. He says, quote, my money is never from the church itself. It's always the international something or another. That's interesting because when we started looking into operation Mocking Pastor, we had that lead that it was coming from one of these fellowship, international fellowships or whatever. I icjf. I don't remember what it was. Point is, like, there's all these International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and they're pumping money with an explicit purpose. In fact, you'll be very proud to know that when I worked at the Daily Wire, they used to bring me companies like Ad Reads and they brought me the International Fellowship of Christian and Jews to read ads for. And so I said to my producer at the time, I said, well, what is this? Actually, let's pull it up, okay? Because I was allowed to decline an ad read if I had a moral, if, if I. If I felt like I was morally averse to it. And so I looked, pulled up the website and it was basically, here's what you Christians can do for Jews. I said, this doesn't feel like a fellowship. So, no, I'm a Christian, I'm gonna get to work. We have tons of issues. They're not telling what they're going to do in the Congo or how they're going to help with what's going on all around the world. Armenia. So why would I just like read ads for it? There's something going on with that organization, by the way. They've got their hands in a lot. Anyways, that's how they were doing this. They were paying this guy. But it wasn't actually coming from Moon, Moon's church. It was coming from international something or another. That's how you hide the money. It goes on to read on one corridor, the International, International Coalition for religious freedom, the group that borderland said signs his checks these days, shares a suite with the martial arts federation for world peace and a company called Washington Times Aviation. The only person in the suite on a recent visit was a Korean man who spoke little English saying I am martial arts federation. I work for father okay, then tells us that Moon's Washington enterprises range from a ballet academy to an architectural molding company to magazines. They said, quote, the idea was that we'd be like Disney controlling all kinds of media, working on behalf of God. Always. Always. Paquette, whose job gave him access to financial information about several church related businesses, said he believed that virtually none of the Unification's U. S. Operations is profitable. We have all these businesses and none of them are profitable. Where's the money coming from? How's that work actually? And isn't it starting to sound like the seven mountain mandate? These pastors we gotta have an interest in culturally, here and there. We've gotta be everywhere. The turning point is gonna help us get there. It's very interesting. What, where is the money coming from and where is it going? Was one of Charlie Kirk's last questions before he was assassinated. He established DOGE to determine that answer. They decided to investigate moon organization in 1978. In 1978, congressional investigation into the Moon organization concluded that, quote, the Unification Church and numerous other religious and secular organizations headed by Sun Moon constitute essentially one international organization that moved money freely among its entities. SEC filings show that the cash for nostalgia that's one of their companies comes through a chain of companies that lead to the Unification Church International. It's a vertically integrated operation that is common in Moon's empire. Goes on to tell us. This is my favorite quotation because it's just so mega. Church vibes like, you know, you find $300,000 behind a sink or a toilet. Tells us, quote, rev. Moon Sent bags of cash, big fat bags, stacks and stacks of hundreds from Korea and Japan to Manhattan center, the church's recording studio in New York City. Paquette said, whenever we asked where that money was coming from, the answer was that it came from the father. Okay, I think we're, we're good on that. I'm sure it did. The wealth of Unification's worldwide economic empire remains a closely guarded secret. Lawrence Zox, a private investigator who has studied the church for more than a decade, has concluded from church documents that the Unification Church International, the main holding company for Moon's US businesses, exceeded $500 million in the mid-1980s. Man who took Moon Inc. To the next level. But the church's wealth has always been centered in Asia. A detailed analysis by the Far Eastern economic review in 1990 valued the church's land holdings in South Korea alone at more than 1 billion. In recent years, though, several of the Korean companies have lost money, causing business experts there to wonder, like their counterparts in America, where the money comes from? Charlie Kirk, where is the money coming from and where is it going to? Charlie Kirk is in Korea, he's in Japan, and he's being told that he's there for reasons that have to do with the Christian faith being suppressed. And I don't think that's why they had him there, to be honest with you. I don't think that's why they pushed for Charlie to go to Korea and to Tokyo. The long standing explanation as to where the money comes from, where the money was going to it is Japan, not Korea, that provides the bulk of the church's wealth. As much as 70%. Church observers estimate they can't get to the bottom of that. We don't know. We don't know the answer to that yet. Despite years of such legal and financial troubles, the unification movement continues to pump hundreds of millions of dollars into existing businesses and new ventures all around the world. It's just a bottomless pit of money. Nobody knows where it's coming from. According to business analysts and academics who study the church, Moon's most ambitious foray into the political process in recent years was the American Freedom Coalition, a conservative group that built popular support for Colonel Oliver L. North during the Iran Contra probe. In addition to about $5 million, unificationists provided the personnel that gave the coalition its grass grassroots strength. Former church member said, ah, yes, of course, you got to build, got to be able to help the colonels, got to have a military angle here. And so that has been their most ambitious, building something that actually helped The Iran contrast people that were implicated tells us. Also in 1995, the Women's Federation made another donation that's one of the another arm of this church, a donation that illustrates how Moon supports his fellow conservatives. It gave $3.5 million grant to the Christian Heritage foundation, which later brought a portion of Liberty University's debt, rescuing Reverend Jerry Falwell's Lynchburg, Virginia religious school from the brink of bankruptcy. The Post has learned of more recent and direct financial support from Moon to Falwell. Last year, New World Communications, which is a parent company of the money losing Washington Times, lent $400,000 into Liberty at a 6% interest, according to the promissory note. So the point of all of this is that to get money, it's. It's a web. It's a financial web that took one investigator 10 years to still not figure out how all of this money is happening. And that's what it feels like. Turning Point USA has become a very complex financial web where money is coming in and money is going out and every dollar is being spent and money is going back to certain people and there are kickbacks and it feels like very sophisticated money laundering. When I read what happened with Moon Inc. And I compare it to what seems to be happening at Turning Point usa, it feels like the company grew bigger than Charlie Kirk and then they were ready to go to the next level. Like maybe they were represented with an opportunity to become Moon Inc. And maybe Charlie said no. Maybe. Anyways, back to Korea. Yeah. Charlie's last trip, he went to go meet with a pastor. And Charlie, the way it was pitched to Charlie was that they were suffering. Christians are suffering in Korea because they want to get engaged into politics and like, you know, Christians want to vote. Well, Christians are concerned about. But again, I don't think that's why the McCoys were pushing for Charlie to go to Korea because, you know, they just got a Holocaust museum. And I don't think much Holocaust stuff happened in Korea. Feels like maybe Korea's getting infiltrated, like America got infiltrated. I mean, you can guess how many. How extensive the infiltration is by guessing how, how extensive the Holocaust education is, is what I would say. That's kind of the lesson that I'm looking back and I'm going. It's kind of weird. We didn't learn about this school. We had to learn about that. Yeah, you have to establish yourself as the ultimate victims before you do the ultimate oppressing vibes. I don't know. Anyways, I'll, I'll Let you read about or I rather see. This is the headline from the Korean Herald. How pro Yoon Pastor was arrested for breaking election law. He was arrested on September 9th. Now to remind you, Charlie was there on the 4th and the 5th for the built Up Korea conference. So days later he got arrested and the rhetoric that he was using is interesting. It's very interesting. Take a look at this news clip and sorry. Skyler. Turning overseas, we've been following the case of South Korean Pastor Yun Bo Sun. His imprisonment has raised concerns about religious.
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The case recently gained more attention when his son Chance spoke in Arizona at turning point. USA's AmFest Asia Correspondent Lucille Talusan spoke with him following that appearance where he spoke about his father's case. Pastor Yoon Bo Son remains jailed in South Korea Korea on election law charges and has drawn attention from the Korean administration for his stance on biblical truths.
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So firstly, I would like to thank CBN News for covering my father's news when it was mostly needed. And that's when I believe a lot of Christians in the States especially starting to pick up my father's story. I think this is a great opportunity for Americans themselves to be able to realize what's at stake and what we are to do as brothers and sisters in Christ.
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As a show of support, the organization Advocates for Faith and Freedom has launched a petition for a fair legal process. In Pastor Son's case, support from Americans is also growing. That includes the late Charlie Kirk who met Pastor Son in Seoul at the conference.
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My father was able to share what's happening in Korea recently, especially to the Christian leaders, including himself, and also the possibility that my father would get could get arrested. And in fact, my father got arrested two days after he met Charlie. Charlie made sure that he will use his platform and his voice to let the whole world and America know that this is happening in South Korea. And this was important for him because it was an example what would happen if we don't speak for biblical truth.
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So just so you know, why was he arrested? Well, he was accused of violating the Public Official Election act and the Local Education Autonomy act prior to attending a court hearing on Monday. For on the warrant for his arrest, the conservative pastor participated in a protest that was held by Christian groups in which he said that the state is quote, the same as Hitler and the Nazis, end quote. And his arrest would be a confirmation of his claim. According to this article, he shouted the words that Lee Jae Myung has to die for Korea to live fighting Nazis. Guys like everybody everywhere is fighting Nazis. At all times. It's just the only thing that's ever happened in the history of the world is these Nazis. And obviously if you don't allow this museum to come in and allow Christians to have a leg here, Christians, well then obviously the Holocaust is going to happen again. I think it's, it's pretty sound. This all feels right to me. If I had to today give you my best guess as to why Charlie Kirk was assassinated. It's because an offer came to him to become the next Moon to turn Turning Point, which is already $100 million organization into a multi billion dollar organization like in real estate and purchasing businesses and doing all sorts of things, working with the military and the top politicians in the world. And you just turn the other way. Don't ask questions about where the money's coming from or how you're getting the money. Just keep things afloat and keep poisoning the minds of the youth and keep saying that you're doing all this in the name of the Lord because you know, why not? If moon could traffic help the CIA traffic in the name of the Lord? Why? Why couldn't Charlie Kirk's organization do that? Hell was Charlie Kirk doing in Korea? Okay, this is my best guess. I think this is what Charlie Kirk said no to. I think this is what Charlie Kirk turned down. And I would imagine that if you're as lieutenants and you're thinking this is a lot of money, the big payday, you might betray him. You might betray him for that. So that's all I have for you today. Very long episode, but a very important episode to see how all of this comes together. We're going to take a break before I read some of your questions. Do you owe back taxes? Or maybe you haven't filed taxes in years? Well, now is the time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS is fighting back and proving that they want to be here to stay by becoming even more aggressive than they've ever been. They are sending out more collection notices, filing more tax liens and collecting billions more than they had in recent years. The IRS can take your wages, bank account, Social Security, retirement, and even your home if you owe or you haven't filed. It is not a question of if the IRS is going to act, but rather when. 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That is what happened here. These people are not pastors. These people are soldiers. These people are not influencers. These people are soldiers and the war is on us. The war is for your mind and you can recognize this very simply, right? You cannot be a Christian and ignore what's happening in Gaza. You can't just pretend that that's okay. You cannot be a Christian and not pursue truth or try to demonize those who pursue it. I think that's, that's self evident, right? And yeah, I hope that this episode has woke, has woken a lot of people up. I hope people have been awakened to how severely all of us have been manipulated, myself included. I will never unsee this. And it is a cancer. It really is a cancer. If you'd like to support us our independent work because we are not receiving money from Moon Inc. We do have new merch on the website. Small team but I feel like we're the little engine that could here Hara you can buy a hard copy autographed bundle now available on our shop. Both my books Make Him a Sandwich and Blackout hand signed by me. You can also be sure to check out our Spanish, Portuguese and French channels. Now link in the description. I'll read our top comment from yesterday's episode. Somebody wrote this is really funny. Ben Shapiro is the type of guy that wakes you up to tell you that he's going to sleep. Absolutely hilarious. Yeah, they're doing more releasing content on my old Instagram channel. It is bonkers, it really is. But they are also just not relevant anymore. Vera Black Designs writes hey Candace, so Dan, floods, hand signals and the guy in brown in the front row that pulled his sleeves at the exact time that Charlie's life was taken. Do you think there was something there or is it a coincidence? I don't believe it was a coincidence much. You're talking referring to Rick Cutler? Yes. He has a very complicated history. We haven't even gone into him, his history of the dod, his family's history. Listen, at the end of the day, I feel strongly that an operation to assassinate Charlie Kirk took place in that day and people are implicated. That's the how we're still working on. I think we've discovered the why. It makes the whole story makes sense what was going on. Charlie, the doge, the offer from BB Netanyahu, the weird possession that overtook Christian Zionists. To tell you that investigating this would be completely wrong. I feel like Moon Inc. Passed his prologue on that one. Jennifer K8033 writes Candace, have you seen or watched the work that John Bray has done regarding his theory on Charlie? It is pretty compelling. I pray for you and your family. Stay safe. And thank you for apologizing to the horse. Yeah, I'm sorry to the midget horse. Again. Out of control. I was out of control. But Ben is still fake and gay. Yes, I have seen John Bray and the work that he's doing. I find it to be very compelling as well. And I have been communicating with him behind the scenes. There's so much happening and there are so many rabbit holes to go under. And again, that's under the category category of the how. And until I feel totally certain about how it was accomplished, I don't want to produce a theory because I'm under so Much scrutiny. If I say one thing and I get one thing wrong, then they suddenly pretend, oh my God. So radical. Everything's been debunked. The why I feel certain about. I suggested that it was trafficking. When I started looking at the route of the Egyptian planes and how they were tracking Turning Point US SA Faith and pastors for years. And this sort of infiltration and overtaking of Turning Point USA that this faith, faith just came on very suddenly like that's not what we were doing. Charlie and I were going around talking about free markets and capitalism. I blinked and suddenly it was. Everything was about the Lord and everybody is talking about the Lord and. But spiritually you're like, this doesn't feel like this is about truth or honesty or Jesus Christ at all actually. It actually feels like you're being controlled by people who hate Jesus Christ. Actually, it's just a vibe that I get. This person writes, look into Paul E. Vala Valley. I did already. Retired army intel officer. He co wrote the book Mind War with Michael Aquino. Aquino, who was an army intel psychological operations officer and an avowed Satanist. Because Paul Valley is also on the advisory board of Turning Point usa. Well, it doesn't matter as long as you got a big enough check as we've learned. Who cares if he worships Satan? Okay. They're doing the kind of Christianity that can be bought, clearly. And yes, that is true, by the way, because I have looked into that B. James. Actually I should add that scholars make a note to military connections here because I do believe that he has some connection to Fort Huachuca as well. As we dive back into that B. James writes. Hi Candace. My girlfriend and I listen to you every episode while we are at work and then we talk about when we get home. It would mean the world to her if you could just say a quick hello to Christian. Hi Christian, I hope you didn't misspell your name. Is it Christina? Because it could have been Christina and he could have just misfired there. Whether you are Christian or you are Christina or you are a Christian, Christina, I would like to say hello to you and thank you guys for watching the episode every day. Really appreciate that, all of you. I appreciate you all so much. I loved yesterday, seeing Maggie's Instagram blow up. That was awesome. She deserves that. I love that for her. Making the difficult decision at the time, but making the right decision. You should always be rewarded for that. Free hour speech rights, Turning Point usa. Nothing to see here. Yeah, never anything to see but pyrotechnics living for his glory. Daily writes, this is why you have to look at Ferris. And Dan Wilkes explains another reason for Ben Shapiro's push against you and the push to get into Turning Point. I'm just a mom who is not blind to the lies anymore. Sending my research tonight. That's funny you say that, because I had a dream. It was so clear. I promise you. You can actually fact check this with Village Crazy lady, my girl Mel over on X, because I woke my husband up. It was after Ben first attacked me. I was like, that's weird. I don't know what his investment is in this. And I had another vivid dream. The dream was so vivid. It was like if you've ever seen Harry Potter. And like, when they have, like the chessboard scene and they're having a wizard war, but they're using. They're playing a game of chess. It was basically a game of chess, and Ben was one of the pieces. And what I saw in this dream, or how I felt because there's no words in this, is that he was being sent out. And I woke up at, literally my husband at 4am in the morning. And I said, I just had a dream that we have to look into the Wilkes brothers. So weird that Ben. The reason he's sending out that he's being sent out is because the Wilkes brothers are freaking out about something. Swear to you, Mel, Village Crazy lady can show you the text. I then woke up and I messaged. I woke up and I got started and Mel messaged me and she said something about the Seven Mountain Mountain Mandate. And then she mentioned the Wilkes brothers. And I was like, that is so crazy that you are messaging me this because I had a dream at 4am they were not on my mind at all. I don't actually really know anything about them. It's not like they've ever been like a part of the daily wire operations or anything. But they do fund Prager U. They do fund Turning. I don't. Sorry, I said Turning Point. You say they do fund Prageru and they do fund the Daily Wire. And they are not, you know, evangelical Christians. They fund the mega churches. They started Rob McCoy's church. Actually, they funded it. So that was interesting, which is what she was telling me. And I looked into it, and all that's true. Anyways, I know I'm not allowed to talk about my dreams before everyone starts freaking out, but I'm gonna still talk about my dreams, especially when they're that vivid. And I've never dreamed more vividly. And more precisely than since Charlie Kirk has been assassinated. It's, it's unbelievable. Like it's, it was disturbing me in the weeks after his death, how vivid the dreams were, how I was being woken up from my sleep. I imagine this is exactly what Charlie was going through in 2018 when he was having visions that he was going to die. That's kind of what's happening to me now about different things that have happened in this investigation or you know, things that were happening with Charlie. Anyways, for whatever that's worth. And just reminding you guys as before we sign off that we have a two hour book club tomorrow we will not have an episode but we will have a two hour book club because we're going back to not doing Friday episode episodes unless we do an occasional thing that we taught you and that's to make up for the book club that we missed at the end of last year. So it will be at 4:00pm Eastern. If you have not signed up to the book club, you should we get to get much deeper into these topics and you can do that by just going to Candace Owens.com beyond that, you guys, we will see you on Monday. Sam.