Podcast Summary: Candace Ep 244 – "They Are Lying About Tyler Robinson." (September 29, 2025)

Host: Candace Owens

Solo episode. Unfiltered investigative update on the Charlie Kirk assassination and the controversial case of Tyler Robinson.

Episode Overview

In this episode, Candace Owens continues her independent investigation into the Charlie Kirk assassination and provides detailed commentary disputing the official narrative about suspected shooter Tyler Robinson. She reveals new information from vetted sources, questions the government and law enforcement accounts, and exposes inconsistencies in media reporting and witness statements. Owens also focuses on the suspicious behavior of local politician Phil Lyman and his network surrounding the incident, calling for greater public scrutiny and crowd-sourced tips.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tyler Robinson – Not Suicidal, Not Confessed

• Major assertion: Tyler Robinson is not suicidal and has never confessed to the crime, contradicting mainstream media and federal claims.
  • “Tyler Robinson has never confessed...he still is pleading innocence on the shooting.” – Candace (02:04)
• Tyler’s state: Described as “bewildered” by the accusations (02:16).
• Family context: The gun in question is a family heirloom, not indicative of criminal behavior.

2. Text Messages and Timeline Inconsistencies

• Fake messages: Tyler's alleged confessional texts appear fraudulent.
  • “Tyler absolutely did not author those text messages...he has no idea where these messages came from, believes they are therefore entirely fictionalized.” – Candace (02:56)
• Dairy Queen mystery: Questions why Tyler was pictured at a Dairy Queen, why the feds surveilled it, and why details were withheld (01:58).

3. The Family’s Perspective and Gag Order

• Parental doubt: Tyler’s own parents do not believe their son committed the crime, contrary to how the media styled their involvement (05:03).
• Witness protection: The family claims the feds pressured them to stay silent, suggesting their “lives could be at risk” if they spoke out (12:22).
  • “They convinced the family to go into witness protection...your lives are in danger.”

4. Questions about the Crime Setup and Evidence

• Campus familiarity: Tyler had never even set foot on the UVU campus, raising doubts about his ability to commit the rooftop shooting (07:03).
• Blurry suspect photo: Family insists the "staircase suspect" image used is not Tyler, due to physical differences (16:07).
• Apartment staging: Tyler’s apartment was found staged after the arrest, implying fabrication of evidence or shifting of suspicion (16:32).

5. Key Individuals Under Scrutiny

Mike Mitchell (Retired Law Enforcement)

• The neighbor/family friend who convinced Tyler to surrender is a retired detective, Mike Mitchell, with almost no press trail upon his retirement (18:43).
• Candace questions why law enforcement tried to obscure his identity and describes the secrecy as “very odd...an anomaly” (18:43).

Sheriff Nate Brooksby

• Described as “weird” and “over-explanatory,” Brooksby provides conflicting accounts about Tyler’s mental state and the surrender process (09:11, 11:24).
• “It can't be both. Was he suicidal and wanting to die, or was he worried about dying? It can't be both.” – Candace (12:09)

Phil Lyman (Politician)

• Lyman, a local politician with deep family roots in the area, is repeatedly present or involved near key events.
  • Provided a car seen in key surveillance footage (29:56).
  • Helped witnesses get media hits (like Good Morning America).
  • Gave inconsistent accounts of where he was during the shooting (34:38, 35:38).
  • Engaged in suspicious behavior, including an uncomfortable visit to a young volunteer (“Nick”) after being asked questions about his involvement (40:16).
• Lyman’s network (family, neighbors) seems quick to point suspicion at political rival Governor Cox and to insert themselves into the investigation.

6. Unusual Media & Political Behavior

• Most of Charlie Kirk’s close associates and Turning Point USA are publicly silent, which Candace finds deeply suspicious (21:33, 52:50).
  • “I am the only person that is publicly demanding further investigation into his assassination. Why?...Something’s not right here.”
• Odd media protection and manipulation around witnesses, including Tiffany Peterson Barker and fast-tracked TV interviews, frequently facilitated by Lyman’s network.

7. Crowdsourcing and Open Questions

• Owens solicits the public for tips about key individuals, especially unknown people in Lyman family’s social media, and about law enforcement connections (23:50).
• Suspects “military coordination” due to recurring military connections among key witnesses and lack of clear evidence trails (38:21).
• Expresses frustration with the lack of transparency and assistance from public figures who inserted themselves into the narrative.

8. Listener Engagement & Personal Reflections

• Candace reads audience comments supportive of her ongoing investigation, highlighting the public’s skepticism about the official story and expressing her own deep suspicions about a larger cover-up (51:15).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [02:56] Candace: “Tyler absolutely did not author those text messages. What text messages? He has no idea where these messages came from, believes that they are therefore entirely fictionalized.”
• [12:09] Candace: “It can't be both. Was he suicidal and wanting to die, or was he worried about dying? It can't be both.”
• [16:32] Candace: “Tyler Robinson’s apartment was staged after his arrest...in Tyler’s room, a furry bed was placed, almost sort of implying that they’re trying to transfer attributes of Lance onto Tyler. And that’s shady.”
• [18:43] Candace: “Why are you trying to protect him? Why did you feel the need to explain to us earlier? ...It’s nonsense. He’s weird about this.”
• [21:33] Candace: “I am the only person that is publicly demanding further investigation into his assassination. Why?...Something's not right here.”
• [34:05] Candace (reacting to Phil Lyman): “So what I get from that is he was up high because he says they're looking down below and that maybe people that are wearing black are immediately suspects. I don't know. Because they were not afraid.”
• [40:16] Candace: “Nick calls me and he's a little bit undone. He tells me that Phil Lyman has just showed up at his house. Now, I want to be very clear. Nick is 20 years old...and he’s very uncomfortable...And he is thinking, this is getting weird.”
• [52:50] Candace: “Sadly, the people that I am in partnership with on demanding more answers are not even people who were friends with Charlie Kirk....Why is Max Blumenthal, who wasn't a friend of Charlie Kirk, more interested in what happened to Charlie Kirk than the people closest to him? That strikes me as very odd.”

Timestamps – Vital Segments

• [00:00] – Episode intro & overview; cliffhanger setup from previous episode.
• [01:58] – New source contact, key questions about the Dairy Queen incident.
• [04:36] – Police body cam clip of Tyler Robinson, language usage pointed out.
• [09:11] – Sheriff Brooksby begins describing call about Tyler, his “suicidal ideation” claim.
• [11:24] – Brooksby describes Tyler’s surrender and fears about police violence.
• [12:22] – Candace: The feds pressured the family into witness protection.
• [16:07] – Analysis on the widely circulated staircase suspect photo.
• [16:32] – Accusation of post-arrest apartment staging.
• [18:11] – Brooksby explains attempts to conceal retired detective's identity.
• [18:43] – Candace: “Why are you trying to protect him?”
• [29:56] – Phil Lyman explains his car’s presence in key video footage.
• [32:12] – Lyman’s account on Alex Jones, blames “goth girls.”
• [34:38] – Lyman describes being backstage with Charlie Kirk pre-shooting.
• [35:38] – Lyman’s post-event Instagram video on proximity to the shooter.
• [40:16] – Candace recounts Phil Lyman’s odd visit to 20-year-old volunteer Nick.
• [52:50] – Candace centers on the strange silence from Kirk’s close allies.

Takeaways & Tone

Owens’ tone throughout is direct, skeptical, conspiratorial, and challenges the mainstream narrative at every turn. She is unafraid to name real individuals, follow the logic into uncomfortable places, and insists her investigation is crowd-led.

The episode highlights deep mistrust toward federal and local authorities, a belief in narrative manipulation, and calls for transparency from anyone inserting themselves into the case.

Call to Action

Candace explicitly asks listeners to help identify individuals in photos, send direct relevant tips (not theories), and contribute on social media with any actionable information. She emphasizes the importance of transparency and pressing for the truth, regardless of political implications or institutional pressure.

Summary prepared for listeners who want a detailed, clear, and compelling account of Candace Owens’ ongoing investigation into the Tyler Robinson/Charlie Kirk shooting case, including the political and law enforcement intrigue swirling around the incident.