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All right, you guys. Happy birthday to me. Happy birthday to me. I am back from Italy. And what did I miss? Apparently, a lot. Apparently. A presidential award ceremony where upon which I was awarded times most vile person of the year. Really? Wow. Okay, Trump, to what do I owe the honor? More importantly, to whom? We will explore that. I gotta say, what I enjoyed most, without question, was the absolute whiplash from Trump's Truth Social post about me, followed almost immediately by their administration crying about the left's rhetoric. Right. Post shooting, if that's what we're calling it. I think it's more appropriately entitled An Incident at the Correspondence Dinner. Like, Melania, I have always said I love her. I love you truly, Melania. But this tweet about the left's rhetoric pertaining to Jimmy Kimmel referring to him as hateful and violent. His rhetoric? No. Nope, I gotta stop you right there, because this feels a little bit like people in glass houses. And speaking of which, Erica Kirk came out today, and she was channeling Janet Jackson in Rhythm Nation. I was feeling it at first. I was like, we're about to get a routine, a dance routine, and we didn't get that. Instead, we got something horribly scripted. And of course, she lied in my name and on my birthday. Shame on you, Erica. Shame on you. Welcome back to Candace. All right, you guys, quick shout out to Neeme Skincare for supporting today's show. I am very intentional about what brands I work with, and Neeme is one that I actually use. Clean, simple skincare made right here in America. So visit neem skincare.com and use my code, CANDACE10 at checkout for an additional 10 off your order. Order. Okay, so what did I miss? Well, apparently, I won. And I like to win. I just want to be clear, you know, And I don't get to win often because despite my, I think, a lot of accomplishments out here podcasting independently, I had to rebuild my entire YouTube channel from scratch after being gloriously, publicly fired and hanged for suggesting that genocide is always wrong. Despite all of that, and taking this podcast number one globally with a very small team, I. I just don't win anything. So you can imagine that when I found out that Donald Trump was publicly announcing me naming me, Candace Owens, as Time's Person of the Year, there was this little glimmer of hope. Right? I'm not gonna lie. Here is what he sent out on Truth Social. He wrote, candace Owens's stock, which was never very high, has fallen a long way. Her attack on the first lady of France is despicable. I Believe in this case, without verification, she is an extremely low IQ individual. Look at that photo. Ouch. Yikes. I'm not looking too hot, right? And also, like, why? What was going on on that day between me and Trump or even in the previously in the previous week? Like, actually, to what do I owe this dishonor? And hasn't he already said this? Is he kind of repeating himself here? He called me low iq. He's already asserted that I was uglier than Brigitte. That actually, between the two of us, it's not even close. Does he feel like his point was not delivered effectively the first four times that he made it? Yeah. This is actually the fourth tweet about me in the span of two weeks from the leader of the free world. What is going on? Before we get to who demanded that the tweet be sent, it wasn't Trump. We should address the points that are made within it, because what actually was he trying to accomplish with it? What it actually was the administration trying to accomplish with that tweet? Okay, well, the first was a little bit of politicking, to be sure. By now, you are plenty aware that Washington, D.C. runs on blackmail and secrets, right? They send operators out to find your deepest, darkest, most humiliating secrets that you wouldn't want the public to know. And once they discover these secrets, secrets, you're kind of presented with really just two options. One, fall into line. Deliver the talking points. If you're in Congress, vote how we want you to vote. If you're in media, say what we want you to say, and we'll make sure the public never finds out. Or here's your other option. Don't stand against us, and we will reveal all. We will make your lives miserable. That's how it works. That's how it works in politics. And it's incredible to me what people will do, what shame they will put themselves through, and the statements they will make that we know are abundantly untrue simply to avoid public embarrassment. And I guess in that regard, I got to give Trump a little credit here, because the photo he shared of me, to be clear with you guys, it is real. It is not. AI People were suspicious. Is this a real photo? I'm not going to sit here and lie to you guys. And you can imagine that was at least refreshing after four days of his top advisor, Laura Loomer, sharing AI photos, illusory stories about drunken hit and runs and fairy tales about secret trusts to hide money from the Macron. All in this, like, manic fit to try to land a hit on my rather boring life. You can imagine that there must have been some satisfaction when they stumbled upon something that is authentic, right? But you see, the only problem with people who are cartoonishly evil is that they also tend to be equally as dumb. So you can imagine how deflated they are going to feel to learn that the photo that they stumbled upon, my deepest, darkest secret, was actually at first shared by me. Okay. On my Twitter account, this was not found by some journalist. So back in 2019, I shared that because I'm actually proud of that photo. And so I will briefly tell you the story as to how it came to be, because I was not that well known in 2019, and so you may have missed it. The story is from 2016, before I had any public profile whatsoever. I had moved into a brand new, newly built luxury apartment. And one night I received a knock on the door from the building maintenance, claiming that there was a system wide H VAC leak. Okay. They needed to then pull the carpet back in a spare bedroom, and it was completely soaked through in the closet. They ran a fan and they advised us not to go in that room for a couple of days while the fan was running. Okay. It must have been a few days later that I woke up and my eyes were completely red and they were pussing and it was itchy. And I was like, that's weird. I don't know what this is about. Thinking that it was separate. Within weeks, I then broke out. And that is what you were seeing head to toe in eczema, Something that I had previously never had. Giant. I'm talking giant patches of. Of eczema all over my skin. My hair fell out in clumps. And this is now over a couple of months. And I kid you not, I even got athlete's foot, which is insane. I had two asthma attacks that landed me in the hospital, and I had no idea what was happening. I had no idea what was happening. Were it not for somebody that was in my life who instantly recognized the picture of all of the symptoms and told me that there had to have been a toxic mold presence for which I needed to have the environment tested immediately. And I genuinely think that that person could have potentially saved my life, I would have never figured out what was going on because everything seemed so separate and sporadic. And just so you know, Trump, I have way worse pictures than the one that you shared. And it was beyond just physical symptoms, beyond itching, the hair falling out. Mentally, I was a completely changed person. Instantly. I was exhausted. I was sleeping up to 16 hours a day. The only way that I can describe it to you all is I just suddenly was not myself anymore. And it was as though my brain could not think or process thoughts. Everything that I had to do, even things that I didn't have to do, was overwhelming. It was a task. If somebody texted me, I would cry and I would become overwhelmed because I couldn't think of how to respond back. Like, I was exhausted at the idea of having to answer somebody back in a text message. It just seems like an impossible task. So it was sort of going in a couple of months, if I felt like, oh, my looks and my brains, everything is just gone, right? And I had not realized up until that moment how much of my personal confidence was actually tied to my looks. Like, oh, my. Certain things have been easier for me for being. And Trump, you could free dispute this, but generally good looking by most people's standards, and I didn't appreciate that. I tied that so much to who I was. I used to be able, truly. I would, at the time of my life, I would just pop on a red lip. I was doing the Taylor Swift thing for a little bit and run out of the door without putting on any makeup. I'm gonna show you pictures leading up to this H vac leak. This is a picture of me. A few pictures of me in August of 2016. There's another picture of me before this happened in August. Another picture of me In August of 2016, Rocking the Red lip, no makeup here, just like doing some hiking with my cousins. Another picture of me. I wasn't needing to wear makeup at all. And another picture of me just traveling, feeling confident in myself. And yeah, the picture that Trump shared was taken just three months later. I was. I was sick. I was very, very sick. And immediately humbled. I did not want to see anyone. I'm not gonna pretend that I was this profound person. I did not want to see anyone. I did not go out. I also didn't have the energy to see anyone. I only let my cousin Mia see me. You've heard me mention her on the show. She took care of me day in and day out. And eventually a doctor told me, you know, this is not. I can keep prescribing you pills, but the only way that you're actually going to be able to beat this, an infection like this is you have to diet. An unbelievably restricting diet. You cannot have any sugar, not even sugar that is in fruit. It's a very strict candidiasis diet. And okay, I Said, this is just what my life is going to have to be. I cried a lot. I mean, I am not a big crier, and I can tell you, you wouldn't have known it if you knew me during that time period. And also for the first time in what felt like a very long time, because prior to, I had been living in New York City, going out all the time, I started praying again. I felt like since the first time, since, you know, I was living with my grandparents, maybe in middle school, I hadn't made prayer a daily habit, but I did. And I remember vividly lighting this candle in my bedroom at night and getting on my knees and praying. And I will say, I know it's not acceptable, but I was bargaining with God. I remember specifically saying, I don't even care about the looks. I just want my mind back. I just want to be able to think again. I just want to be able to write again. I want to be able to have energy again. I want to be Candace. I want to be Candace on the inside. And when it came down to it, I. That's all I wanted. Not to look like myself, but to be healthy again. And I came away from that experience realizing that health is everything. Your health is everything. Your looks mean nothing in the scheme of things. I was happy to accept that that was how I was going to look the rest of my life. Anyway, the story ends well. Actually, I moved out of that apartment. Did that strict diet, did eventually have to chop my hair, but I did it in a cute little bob. Here's a picture. Um, with a lot of time, I would say probably maybe like six months, my skin fully cleared up, which was not something that I was expecting. And what followed that was in, I think it was August, almost a year. Exactly. And In August of 2019, I started, for the first time, my political YouTube channel, having no idea how successful it would be. And when it became successful, I really enjoyed. Enjoyed the hindsight of that story. Like, and of course, this is probably me. This is me inserting this. But I felt like God was giving me a little bit of a test before I had life in the limelight. Like, I always think, what if I had instead prayed and said, oh, please, God, give me my good looks back. Take my mind, but give me my good looks back. Yeah. Anyway, for whatever it's worth, I entered the space of politics with a very real understanding of how fickle it all is. I felt completely that I was at God's mercy. I wanted to sort of keep my circle really small, as you Guys know my cousin Mia still works with me. She is the person who actually helped me upload my first video onto YouTube. She filmed me, if you can find that video on this channel. And as you know, she's still rolling with me today. She was the one I took with me to see Erica because of vibes. And so I feel like I went into politics just with the right attitude and not impressed by a lot of the things that other people were impressed by. You know, I knew the importance of family and, again, how quickly everything could be stripped away from you. All I wanted was my health, and I was just so grateful to be able to think again. So, to Trump, there you go. To you directly. I guess it's important for you to know that you have no power over me and my life. I chose to share that picture. That's why you have it. That's why you could have somebody put that on an AI cover. I made a decision to share that with the public because it was the lowest moment of my life, and I do not want people digging through to find that and to try to embarrass me. I'm not embarrassed of it. I'm proud of who it made me into. Today, people get sick, okay? In fact, there are people who email us daily about their chronic illnesses and tell me how much this podcast helps them get through the day. People who are going through surgery, people who are going through cancer and similarly are wearing bandanas and have no hair who enjoy listening to this podcast. It gives them a laugh, and that's okay. Who cares what you look like, okay? You have low moments. You get through them. And I will say that never, when I went through that, and to people who are sick and going through things, never could I have imagined that my lowest moment would one day become President Trump's lowest moment. I do feel like, to Trump, he's just repeatedly humiliating himself over and over again, and. And he can continue to do that in front of the world. I will say real power never has to name itself. I am Maga. I built Maga. I am loved 100% by the people. Just look at these polls. It's like, come on, old boy, who are you fooling? You know, you weren't even worth replying to until I could make time for it. You weren't even worth interrupting my holiday in Italy to address, okay? And let's now address the words on the COVID of the magazine, which, to a lot of people, sounded oddly racist. Honestly, this. This particular portion accusing me of using rich white men and his own Lies, lies, lies and uses rich white men. Okay, I'll bump this to you. White House, please. Reporter, ask him, which rich white man have I used in my life? I'd love to know that because it's such an odd thing to say. All of my exes were poorer than me, with the exception of one. When my husband and I got married, thanks to strict immigration laws, we were entirely supported by my income because he was not allowed to work until they got a green card. And Covid dramatically slowed down the green card process. So during the first, almost two years of our engagement to our, through to our marriage, we, we had one income in our household. I had no debts when I met him. I had a million dollar book deal when I met him. I think we moved 800,000 copies of my first book. So I had a lot going on for me. I think at least we could say it's more than Trump can say regarding his three wives. So my question to Trump would be, would you describe Melania as using rich white men? What about Lara Trump? Does that only apply, that expression apply if the person getting married to a white person is black? Is it, Is it like literally because I'm black and I'm marrying someone even if I have my own money? I think that's kind of what you were getting at. You meant to imply that George's family has generational wealth, as in his parents are richer than my parents. Yes, you are correct. Served. Oh, my gosh, I got served. Is that supposed to be publicly humiliating to me? Yes. My mother did not even graduate, graduate high school. My father was a plumber for most, most of his life. We have no wealth that I could speak of. I will not be inheriting anything from my family. Well done. Congratulations. There are many people out there that can relate. Who cares? This is, this is the game of, of politics. You think that, like, this is what's going to bring me to my knees, that I don't come from a wealthy family. And I want people to know that the real driver of the entire random attack on me from the President and the reason why it was tinged a little there with some race, was actually his top advisor, Laura Loomer. I am told specifically that she was ranting, ranting to people because this is when she was deep in the throes of her psychosis about how she wasn't invited to the White House Correspondents Dinner, which she was already upset about, and because she was out there throwing everything, which we'll get to later, making up rumors about me and my family. She demanded a tweet of support from Trump. In fact, that is what does explain the hint of racism behind the tweet. She is truly manic. And leading up to Trump's tweet, she had been particularly focusing on my race. And I will just let you hear the things that she has was saying before Trump dropped the uses rich white men section. Take a listen.
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I just remember her always talking about how she wanted to be like, like a suburban wife. Like, she wanted to drive like a black Escalade. She used to talk about how Club Monaco was her favorite store. And she always just wanted to have like a white husband and be like, you know, married to like a, like a established white man. And she used to tell me, like, oh, I don't, I don't date black men. And she's like, in fact, when I was in high school, I was known as the girl that would like, go to the club and basically, basically steal your man. Like, that's how she literally used to talk. And she would say there was something just like really satisfying to me about being a black girl from the hood. Being able to like, walk into a ritzy bar in Greenwich and leave with the hottest white guy there and basically like, ruin the relationship of like the popular white girl. This is how she used to speak. And for some reason, there's a lot of people that are really afraid of this nappy headed black who just has a lot to say but not really a lot to offer. So I'm not afraid of Candace Owens. Hannah Stone is just this one resentful ghetto black bitch. Like, that's literally what she is. She, she's a racist too. Like, you could listen to this. And I'm not a racist person, right? Like, I don't hate black people, but I say she's a ghetto black bitch because you have to listen to the way that she has so much resentment for white girls. Like white girls with blonde hair and blue eyes. And you know, I'm originally a blonde too. I have blonde hair and blue eyes, right? Maybe that's why Candice has so much resentment towards me. But listen to the way that she describes how traumatizing it was for her to go on a play date as a young black girl in Connecticut at the home of a wealthy white blonde girl with blue eyes. And she really sees Erica Kirk as that white blonde girl that got everything that she wanted while her mommy and daddy didn't love her. Mommy and daddy didn't love me. And, and I was jealous of the white blonde girl growing up who had mommy and daddy. So now I'm going to dedicate my life to destroying every pretty white blonde girl that has a happy family. Because I don't have a happy family.
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Yeah, a lot to unpack. They're not really worth unpacking. It's just. It's just too insane. I do genuinely believe that she is on the brink of needing to be committed again. But the point in all of these lies met someone who goes to the club and high. Who's going to the club in high school. I've never in my life actually been out in Greenwich, Connecticut. Nobody had that kind of money, obviously, as you just mentioned following that. But this, this entire thing, you have to recognize what to pull away from this, is that she was going on an unhinged racist rant. And then she was able to make a demand that the President of the United States issue a truth social supporting her mania. And it was a demand. I want to be clear that I am told specifically that Susie Wiles was staunchly opposed to credit to Susie Wiles, that she came up against that and said this is a very bad idea. And yet Trump's team overall conceded question is why? That's a very important question. Why did Donald Trump concede to a lunatic? There has been, of course, a very long standing rumor that it's because she has blackmail on him. A rumor that I'm reticent to believe. Right, because it's Laura Loomer. But it has something to do with her having relations, that she went on to Air Force One years ago, as we all knew, and then began telling people that she had relations with Donald Trump. Again, it's Laura Loomer. So don't just take it with a grain of salt, take it with a grain of crack cocaine. Okay? But the point is we are now able to demonstrate that she's able to force the administration's hand. Okay, so do I. Do I believe what she is going to allege? Whatever they're afraid of? Probably not, if I'm being honest. But is she now threatening them into compliance or she will make his life a living hell, as she says. I won't stop. I'll post your grandkids, your mother, your father. I won't stop until I get what I want. Probably they probably just don't want to deal with Laura Loomer. Either way, that is a type of blackmail, in my view. That's a type of emotional blackmail. Okay? And that very real notion that our President who it seems randomly attacks people on her behalf. So when you're wondering why did he send out this crazy tweet about Tucker Carlson or Megyn Kelly? If you go onto Laura Loomer's feed, you will see that it's her focus of the week. It's whoever Laura Loomer happens to be attacking that should be noted because there is no way in hell that Donald Trump, who has never by the way, pushed send on his own tweets, that was the job initially of Dan Scavino during his first term. And now it's been widely reported that on Truth Social, that's the job of Natalie Harp. Trump is not using AI to doctor that. He did not hit send on that. And the question that journalists should be asking is who did it and why? And we are going to leave that open ended as of now. 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Nobody wants to be a diaper head, but that's the translation for you. Also, on the point about me hating blondes and blue eyes, my team is shocked. Ashley, the producer, blonde hair, blue eyes. Savannah, blonde hair. Bella, blonde hair, blue eyes, who scrolls on our prompter. So this is definitely news that I hate people with blonde hair and blue eyes. Anyway, speaking of Erica, obviously, because she name checked me today. Let's just back this up. Everything went down while I was in Italy, right? I came back, suddenly there were all these reporters who were in ball gowns at the White House correspondence dinner, sharing clips down at the crowd, taking selfie videos, sharing their survivor stories. They're now apparently Thug Life. I think Brian Stelter is about to get that tattooed across his abdomen. He's survived. He's a survivor. Did they just. What are they survived? Vietnam, the streets of Compton? Actually, it turns out that it's more like the streets of incompetence. Because what actually happened? Well, a man stormed a security check at the White House correspondence Center. And then Secret Service agents, and only Secret Service agents began firing their weapons. That is the latest. And I, as soon as I saw the video, I was like. I think, like, nobody can, like, fire a gun that quick. I think it's actually friendly fire. Here's the latest headline in the Washington Post. It reads, video shows moment Secret Service officers fired at correspondence dinner suspect. And then it says, surveillance footage reviewed by the Post. The clearest picture yet of the seconds after the alleged gunman bolted through a checkpoint inside the hotel. In addition to this, Evan Hill, who is an investigative reporter for the Washington Post, wrote on his ex that a Secret Service officer fired four times at Cole Allen and in the direction of other security personnel as he charged a security checkpoint. A Post review of surveillance footage has been found. Has found that there was no indication on the footage that Allen fired his weapon. So to be clear, after all of that, it's hard to say a shooting happened, right? Nothing happened in that regard. Or I guess the implication that this was a shooting that came from this outsider and the majority of the people could not, that were inside could not even hear or distinguish the sound of what was going on. They connected the dots, of course, on the basis of the Secret Service then rushing the President out, Which it would be scary, obviously, like, what the heck's going on? Which I think a lot of them thought, like, why are they moving him? Actually, I got to give a rare kudos to Andrew Colvett now. In a couple of minutes I will be dissing him. But a rare kudos to Andrew Colvett, who when he recounted the story, was actually honest. He said he heard a sound. He honestly did not know what it was. It could have been plates crashing. If anybody, by the way, has been in the presence of a shooting, I have because I lived in D.C. and I lived in New York. And you, you hear guns go off. Sadly you, unless you, you see it, you're not sure. It's like, it's like a pop. It's a pop sound. And yes, it could be. As he is describing, plates crashing. What is that? Okay, now, despite this, despite this actually being a story, we were immediately inundated with social media posts. And for some reason, the star of the would be saga was none other than Ms. Erica Kirk. Somehow at the exact right moment and amidst all of the chaos and the subsequent lockdown, someone had captured the exact moment that Erica Kirk was walking out and captured the audio of her saying this. Okay, so the clip was first shared by Sarah Seidner. She is of cnn. She's a CNN reporter. But I noted pretty early on I thought that was pretty precise for her to have recorded that. Also she's on air talent, so would be unusual for her to just be like trying to get things behind the camera. Anyways, she stopped short. I've looked everywhere of ever saying that she herself recorded it, which I found to be interesting. That's interesting to me. And so I reached out to her on Instagram ahead of the show. I reached out yesterday and I think the day before on Instagram, on Twitter and via text, asking her to simply confirm that she in fact shot the video and that it was not given to her by somebody else. I got no response. I would like to confirm that she actually shot that footage. Actually, there are other people that are in the corridor who have cell phones. I'll put a Bounty on it. I will offer $10,000 to somebody who has the opposite side footage. And I obviously will not run your name. Name. I will protect you if you have that opposite side footage of the person who caught that footage. 10k is yours. No questions asked. Okay. More tips@candace owens.com. anyway, I bring this up because what would have just been Erica's reaction somehow became the focal point of the entire event, right? And we were getting lectured. I don't know how it happens that Erica goes out and we get lectured, but it happened again, by golly. And Baron Coleman happened to notice that as well. And here's what Baron Coleman had to say.
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And maybe innocently, Erica just happened to make an excited utterance. I just want to go home. And she just happened to say that right as she crossed the only camera that captured her leaving. I could accept that. I could accept that. I could accept it if it hadn't gone viral. I could accept it if we didn't get hit with a relentless onslaught of simps lining up to promote her in this moment. And kick off Operation Number two of the night. Operation One was Operation Ballroom. Operation Two is Operation Erica Kirk.
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Correct.
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The president sort of faded into the background last night. The Vice President sort of faded into the background. The only people who really rose to the top. One is a building that hasn't even been built yet. A ball. And the other is a woman most of us had never heard of seven months ago, eight months ago. Erica Kirk. Operation Erica Kirk. So I might have been able to buy that
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these are the facts, okay? Baron Coleman is telling the truth. That's why people are going to hate him. They hate the Internet because we clock this stuff so instantly. It was just weird. The ballroom. Erica Kirk. Oh, and then suddenly, again, I'm being tweeted at. Next thing you know, we are all being lectured by neocods across the Internet. We're being called sheer evil, psychopathic. Because Erica Kirk opted into another social calendar event, okay? An event that did not in any way require her presence. One which not even Charlie Kirk had ever attended. Or President Trump, for that matter. As the president, he never attended any of these correspondent centers. And yet it's somehow our fault Again, we were not invited. And it's always our fault. Right? I'm just getting flashbacks to uga. Erica misses her appointment. We weren't going. We didn't speak about uga. We didn't say, don't go. Suddenly we got the Vice President lecturing us about not keeping Erica safe. Right? Neocons. Same thing. Hitting hard with the repeat lecture about a grieving widow who apparently we're all now somehow responsible of. They just turned her into one of our kids out of nowhere. Right. It's all our fault. Because if you noticed anything about Erica Kirk, this is the reason why she went to this social calendar event. Okay. I just want to be very clear at what we are looking at and forgive me, because I know that Hillary Clinton, many of my listeners maybe voted for Hillary Clinton. You liked Hillary Clinton. That is fine. I did not. And I'll explain to you why, because you might be able to connect the dot here. This is why a lot of people who voted for Trump, some, some of them actually were just voting against Hillary Clinton in 2016. It was because of the nature of the campaign. It was whiny. It was, it was. That is what we resented truly about the campaign. You can't criticize Hillary Clinton because she's a woman. Oh, my gosh. This person said this because he's a sexist. Oh, my gosh. The reason why Hillary Clinton is struggling, or if you think she faint, whatever, is because. It's because she's a woman. She's hyper qualified. Her husband's Bill Clinton. I will say Hillary Clinton is actually accomplished in her own right. But that was the whole attitude. It was like, we're not actually trying to get your vote. We don't need your support. We're too rich and too big to fail. She's too connected to fail. So we're just going to keep chastising you and we're just going to keep lecturing you, and then we expect you to vote for her. That's what, that's the Erica Kirk campaign. It's worse. I actually, if I could pick,
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like,
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if we have to go through another cycle of a grift, whether it's a feminist grift like the Hillary Clinton one, which felt like it's because she's a woman. The race grift, where, like, people couldn't express their opinions for a while post blm, George Floyd, or this, the widow grift, where they're doing the same thing. They're shutting down reasonable questions. People that are bringing up things in Hillary's past, whatever it is. The widow grift is the worst. I, I have to say, of all of them, the widow grift is the one that I actually find to be the most despicable because we all know that you're doing it and you just keep doing it. No, it's nobody's fault that Erica went To that event, other than Erica, okay? We did nothing. We didn't hit someone up. We didn't say, hey, could you storm the barrier? Hey, Secret Service, do me a favor. Could you fire shots at each other so that Erica gets into a state of trauma? It's just. We're really getting tired of this. It's. It's so disingenuous, and we can see what you're doing, and it's not moving the needle any. I get. I get it. She's too big to fail. You got too much money. You got too many connections. Okay. It's just that she's failing. So anyway, on the heels of the White House correspondent, or she tweeted that she would be addressing her latest traumatization, and she did that today. She said, I will. She said, I will. I need to spend time with my family. We should have pulled the tweet. She went, literally in one sentence, she said, I. I After today's traumatizing shooting, I need to spend time with my family. And then I will be on the Charlie Kirk show on Wednesday. So I think she just needed 48 hours. And what we got today was objectively weird. It was weird for a couple of reasons. First is that it was nine minutes, and then they just played Charlie Kirk clips for the rest, the remaining almost two hours. The second thing is that it was pre recorded. Okay. It was straight from the teleprompter, and it was very clearly not written by her. But we can kind of go. Go over the. The points that she delivered. And yes, there's been immediate backlash. And yes, I am already being blamed for the immediate backlash because it's always somebody else's fault when it comes to Erica Kirk. Okay? So the first thing that's weird is the reason that she gives for people asking that question. Why did you go to the White House correspondence? And you literally just said you couldn't do your UGA commitment because there were credible threats and you couldn't trust a Secret Service to absolve them. Then you did an event with Trump which relied on upon the Secret Service. And then now you're doing another event, and it's like a press event, right, that actually Charlie hated. He always made fun of the White House correspondence dinner. So why do you feel obliged to show up here? And here is the answer that she provided. Take a listen.
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And everyone is asking why. I even went to the White House Correspondence Center. And it was because many of the journalists in that room have attempted to dehumanize me. And I wanted to meet Some of them face to face, quite frankly. Why have a conversation about me when you can have a conversation with me? So, for example, a journalist from the Daily Mail came up to me. She introduced herself and she was saying, she was very gracious. She was saying, you look so beautiful. I'm so sorry for your loss. To which I replied, it is so nice to put a name to the face, especially with all of the slander, the lies, accusations that are out there surrounding my husband's murder and myself. And I said to her, you know what's so interesting? This is my first time at the White House Correspondence center and I find it so fascinating the dynamic that is going on right now because everyone is all dressed up and you guys are co. Mingling in and out of each other's cocktail parties. And so for one night you are able to put aside all of your differences for the sake of freedom of speech. And then by Monday morning, things will go back to being an absolute bloodbath between all of you. To which she replied, literally, she said, I know, isn't it special?
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Right?
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Isn't tonight so special?
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Any buyers, any takers of that? That she, she went just for the social experiment of it all. And by the way, I know we're not allowed to remember anything she says yesterday, but I'm pretty sure that when she sat down with Caroline Levitt on stage at Turning Point Events, she says that she doesn't, like, she didn't read the headline. She doesn't care. She's completely removed. We've been told over and over again that she's just not aware of what's going on. Now she's saying, I actually went to this event because I needed to confirm, confront these journalists who day in and day out, I actually know their names, which is more than I can say. I actually don't know the names of all journalists. I write articles about me. I don't care to learn about their lives. I actually virtually never give them statements. Like I. My PR is an open. You just go out there and say, she doesn't care, she doesn't care. She doesn't care. Because I just got tired of answering for things. But that's what we're getting now. We're getting that she went there and she got dolled up and it was because she simply just wanted to. And she even went to a pre party, I believe. Right. That was posted as well. But that was just because she wanted. It was a social experiment, okay? And next she is going to say something that is ironic. Okay? She's gonna call out those journalists. Cause she's on a. That's why she went to. Just like, I don't like you journalists. She's gonna call them out for their reactions to the shooting. Okay, take a listen.
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If you were in that room, you had no way of knowing what the status of the shooter was, how many there were, or honestly, really anything. It was just utter chaos. And so during an active shooting, these journalists are using their phones to find moments to capture for clips. They were so concerned about getting a video in a room with an active shooter that they could have accidentally and quite literally filmed themselves being shot. Many of those people have become so desensitized that fight or flight became secondary to the opportunity of putting themselves into the story, which ironically breaks the number one rule of journalism.
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Anybody in the chat want to tell her what's ironic about that statement? Anybody remember Terrell Farnsworth? And when we said that was weird, they said it wasn't weird. And now Erica is basically going. Who would record themselves in an active shooting? This is Terrell Farnsworth. Doesn't know how many shooters there are. Doesn't know what's going on. Seconds. This is not even a minute after Charlie hits the ground and he's behind him. And he recorded himself. Take a listen.
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They just shot Charlie.
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They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie Sar. God help him. I'm just pointing out irony. That's all. I know I'm gonna get crushed for that. How dare you. Remember, I go kind of spending a lot of time on this case, and it's part of the bizarre reactions that the public doesn't feel good about. So I just think it's weird to call out journalists for the exact same actions that your team took. That still works for you. Taking down cameras, all that's a bit weird. But if they started taking down cameras, you might think it was a little weird. Anyway, another part, which this is. This is random push coming from the White House. And. And you're gonna hear us from Erica and from the first lady as well, where I'm just starting to feel like they're coming after the First Amendment. Right? And bizarrely, they're going after Jimmy Kimmel, which I'm again angry at. This is the second time that they're going to make me defend Jimmy Kimmel. They are trying to assert. And again, on the heels of Trump sharing that about me, on the heels of his advisors sharing this information about me, all right, going after that. It's actually Jimmy Kimmel's joke that is to Blame for the White House correspondence incident. Okay. And Erica Kirk is going to underscore that as well. Take a listen.
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If you can just pause and just take a minute and ask yourself, how would you feel if even just one person made cruel jokes about the attempted murder of your loved one? That is what Jimmy Kimmel did to the first Lady. He said that she had the glow of an expected widow. The glow of an expected widow. So disingenuous 48 hours before that nightmare almost became a reality.
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It was a joke. I can't do the Hillary Clinton campaign. I can't do it. I can't do. That's how it felt. Trump would make a joke about something and then they'd all get out and pretend it was super serious. And it's ironic because, like, Jimmy Kimmel was a part of that syndicate of people that did this. And I said no, and I couldn't stand Jimmy Kimmel. And I still really don't like Jimmy Kimmel. But they're flipping it now on its head and they're Jimmy Kimmel ing it. Okay? They're doing the thing where they pretend that it's exist. A joke is existential. A clear and obvious joke is as existential. And now the source of shootings, that's that this happened because Jimmy Kimmel made a joke. She may have liked the joke. I don't love everything that said about me. Oh, well. Oh, well. But the big news, of course, is that as she got toward the end of this pre written monologue not written by her, is that she name dropped Drew Ski and she name dropped me. And that was supposed to be, I think, as they planned it. And this is why she's gotta stop working with Blake Neff. It's giving. Blakey Neff wrote it. I know he's her writer for things. This was supposed to be a moment of bravery or something. And it's gonna backfire. Take a listen.
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Every morning I wake up to a new headline lying about me. I have comedians dressing up in whiteface. I have people saying I'm not fit to be CEO. And I have Candace Owens claiming I murdered my husband. And the list goes on and on and on.
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And it's just not. The performance of all this is not good. And before we get to her claim, in which people immediately checked her on and it was not trending in a good way. It's not trending for her in a good way. The reaction to this, whatever this was supposed to be just an obvious lie. She wakes up to headlines and Candace Owens saying that she killed her husband. Now I'll show you how they're trying to clean it up. It's similar to uga. It's going to be narcissistic abuse where they blame it. They find tried a way to wiggle out of Erica lying as opposed to saying, oh sure, misspoke. They're going to try to assert that no, Candice did say this. But overall, before we even get to that, the response has just been brutal. Okay, Everyone is calling her out. They're saying that the look is wrong. People are making fun of saying that she looks like she came dressed up as the assassin that was walking up the stairs. Allegedly. But also just her general demeanor. Okay, here are just some of the reactions. We can. We can go through them. I guess I missed it. When did Canis Owens mentioned anywhere in the podcast that you murdered your husband? You didn't miss it. I trust gas station sushi more than I trust Erica Kirk. This user writes. I was hoping you were going to address all the questions being asked of you. This lecture was pointless. We're just getting lectured every day. We're so tired of being lectured. This person writes, Candace Owens never once made the explicit claim that you murdered your husband. All she has accused you of is being a liar and a fraud. By the way, when that is the my repeat accusation, which I've proven that you lie, it's best not to lie in the monologue that you're going to come after me, right? Like that is like, come on lights on, guys. This person says, so she's not resigning. She's ruining Turning Point usa. She should just go home and be and stay at her mom to. And stay as a mom to those poor kids that have no parents at this point. Here is another tweet this person wrote, if Erica truly is just a grieving widow and not actually a bad person, which is now becoming harder and harder to believe, then somebody around her who cares needs to tell her the following. One, her disposition is totally unlikable. Two, her delivery is completely untrustworthy. And three, every time she opens her mouth, she digs herself a bigger hole. I would rather not tell a widow how to grieve, but I would advise a wannabe astroturfed CEO to go home and spend some more time with her kids that she claims to love so much. Here's another couple of funny tweets. Did Erica tell her stylist to, quote, give me the assassin outfit today? Another one, Erica Kirk trying to prove to us that she did not try to kill her husband. These are obvious jokes. Guys, I know they're now criminalizing jokes, but these are jokes. Okay? Erica Kirk out here dressing like Eminem when he got sober. I did not see that one before. That's very funny. This person. Why is Erica Kirk wearing something that looks eerily similar to an imperial officer's uniform from Star Wars? It fits the theme music when they walk out. So, yeah, across the board, people are laughing, they're mocking it, they're saying it was, you know, didn't. You're lying. And also, it's just weird. It was weird and it was awkward. And speaking of the lying, which, like I said, many people called out right away as that person said, I've never made that statement on this podcast. Of course, they instantly then started realizing that they needed to defend it. And of course they came out with two different excuses. Okay, Blake Neff came out and said, well, Candace didn't say it, but she implied it. She implied it in the episode where I said that the police should drag Erica in for questioning. That Charlie would have already been Dr. He probably would have been arrested until further notice and asked questions if we had found this many holes in his story. Like, of course they should have her phone. They should be asking her questions about various lies, because that's just how it works. So that. That was Blake Neff's excuse. Now Andrew Colvett's excuse is even more bizarre. Andrew Colvett is going to present an out of context text message which looks like it got passed around at Turning Point usa. I. Look, I gotta give Andrew Cole that, like, they're never on board with. They're all, like, running in different directions. But he is the king of the narcissistic abuse. The narcissistic abuse of the public, right? He instantly comes out and starts chastising us. And he can never just be like, you know what? I would. I would have instantly said she fumbled over her words. She meant to say that she feels Candace implied it. But of course, that would have been a hard sell because it's very clearly scripted. And look, you have all over the Internet, people are calling her out for lying. Why would she utter that statement? Why would she say that? I accused her of murdering her husband. And as it was going viral, too many people obviously watched the show, so they just clocked it immediately. So Andrew did his thing, right? To prove this was real, he presented a screenshot of a text message joke. A joke definitively sent by me. And I will say right now, Andrew Kovett, you have my full permission to release the entire conversation. Because how dare you remove this joke from its context? Okay. And it's a message that had never been revealed to the public. I stand by it. I'm assuming employees passed this around and now kind of explains why so many people got fired. I think I'm grasping some understanding of that. And he presented it as an authentic exchange. Despite the cry emojis. I was being asked what questions I planned to ask Erica when we met up at the end of December. So you recall at this time, this was during the week where Erica was going viral for her interview with Barry Weiss for a number of very funny reasons. And they were pushing real hard in the press to assert that asking Erica any questions was despicable off record, and it equated to accusing her of murdering her own husband. Okay. So I sent this as a joke, an obvious joke, which they know is a joke, because when I met up with Erica, I never asked this question. And I was being funny. And I think. I still think it's funny. Actually, I said this in response. I said, and that's on. This is the tweet. The person is asking, What are you gonna ask her? At the bottom here, you can see I said, I'm asking everything. First question, why did you murder your husband? I'm cry emoji. Cry emoji. And again, the context of this was us making fun of Barry Weiss and Ben Shapiro and the syndicate of people that had come out and said that asking any questions about Erica Kirk at all was akin to just saying exactly that you murdered your own husband. This was never released to the public. It's a private conversation. So to pretend that that is what Erica was to today. How disingenuous can you be, Andrew? Like, it's like you. You have to get tired of it at some point. You just got to get tired of it. Again, I will assert publicly. You have my full permission. Go, Max. Release the entire chain. I have nothing to hide. When I said. And I asserted several times, there is not a single thing that he can point to that I said on this show that was leaked to me by Aubrey le, like, from December 15th, okay. Post getting fired, obviously she spoke out, and I've had many conversations with her, but nothing was leaked to me about there that I presented on this show about anything that was going on internal. So pretending that this joke that went around of. I'm. The first thing I'm going to ask her is, why'd you murder your husband? Like, why are you gay? Is a little over the top. Release it. Release it all let the public judge. I have nothing to hide. And in this investigation, when I went into that room, I genuinely, I believed that, you know, Erica was being a little weird, but I thought that I was going to get straight answers. And then she lied to my face. And from that point on, when I clocked her on those lies and when the public kept repeatedly clocking her on lies and seeing your reaction to it like it is right now, I grew increasingly suspicious of Erica. I remain suspicious of Erica. I, I, I think that is any person who is being honest. Why don't you respond to what I'm actually saying? I am saying that donors are telling us that that was an AI video or an AI audio that you presented of Charlie Kirk. Wouldn't that be a great time to clear that up? Up? If you're going to sit there and you're going to point the finger at Candace Owens, I would have said, and it is egregious that Candace Owens is implying that we would make this up, that Charlie didn't want me to take take over. And then you slam dunk show the video of Charlie Kirk saying in Aspen that he wanted you to be the CEO. I have made a lot of claims about you lying. And I stand by the claims that I have made on this show. Okay. I stand by the claims I have made. Like I said, I spoke to multiple donors that were at that event. It is strange that you will not release that video. It is strange that you are now pivoting to a private text message thread to assert that I said you murdered your husband. What does that mean? Did you shoot your husband? No. I'm not accusing you of shooting your husband, but I am assuming that I have been open about on the show is that it reeks of dishonesty. You and that people told you this. There's something about your general nature that comes across as very dishonest. You don't seem to be interested in the very many holes. I wouldn't be able to stomach sitting or standing next to Cash Patel. And yet you do. You're sitting here at a White House correspondence center. Why don't you ask him to give the defense what they need if you want a speedy trial? Victim. Oh, no. I'm just there to, you know, for a social experiment. Well, you're standing next to the FBI director that's holding up your case. I wouldn't be able to stomach looking at Cash Patel. And you can. I'm sorry that we're all noticing these sorts of things and keeping track of the very many lies that you and Turning Point people have told. Biggest of all, which no one wants to address while they're putting on this widow grift, is the lie that you told about the surgeon going rogue. Erica. How about responding to that? The surgeon went rogue. Andrew Colbert went rogue. I wasn't a part of the conversation. You lied about that, Erica. That's a big lie. That's not a small lie, okay? I'm not coming after you like the Internet was in early days for wearing hot pants with J.D. vance. I don't care about that. That's not relevant to me. How you style your hair, how you want to do your makeup, how much eyeliner you want to put on. That feels petty to me. But you lying, allegedly, according to donors that were present, about Charlie saying, I want you to take over if I get killed. Yeah, that matters. You lying about the surgeon and beginning the entire story about a Superman neck. But actually, you were on the phone, but you lied to my face, and you're pretending that I have to take that because you're a widow. No, that doesn't work for us, okay? That does not work for us. In fact, Baron Coleman called this out. The widow grift. And trying to tell us that she's allowed to lie to us because her husband died is. Is so on its face absurd that it should be rejected by all people everywhere. Take a listen to what Baron Coleman had to say on his show.
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Nowhere in the Bible, nowhere in any religious tradition, does it say, if you're a widow, you get a free pass to lie to anyone you want to gaslight everybody you meet for everything you've ever done in your entire life. That is dog doo doo. You just get overlooked. No one's allowed to bring it up. No one's allowed to talk about it for the rest of your life. Everyone has to fawn all over you and support you because, my God, you're a widow. It doesn't exist. I've looked at scripture. It's not in there. Erica, Graham, Gary, not in here. Andrew Blake doesn't say it. There's no requirement. I support her as the head of tpusa. There's no prohibition on me criticizing her for documented falsehoods. None. None. And I'm tired of this gaslight play life.
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We're all tired of being gaslit all the time. We are so tired of them moving the goalpost and problematizing us, clocking the lies as what is problematic. Like it's. It's problematic that you recognize that she is lying. It is problematic that she keeps lying to your face and you keep noticing it, and she just moves to absurd excuse like, oh, well, there was this private text chain where Candace said, erica, did I Actually, when I arrived, did I say, did you kill your husband? Oh, so it was probably a joke. Erica, it was probably a joke, and you should share the full context. Don't retweet as. As she's done. Andrew Colvin. Oh, no. That's the excuse for why I just said that publicly. This private chain that nobody saw, Everybody recognizes that as a lie. You guys just keep piling on the lies. And again, you can't get on board with the same messaging. Blake Neff already gave a different excuse. Well, she implied. Erica. No, it was this. This joke that happened in December. Private joke that happened in December. That's the reason we're saying that with the crying emojis. That's. Nobody ever makes a private joke, obviously, that. What she meant was that I killed my husband. Okay, stop being ridiculous. Please hire a new PR team. You are not smarter than people in the public. You just aren't, actually. And that's honestly gonna be your only saving grace, is to just exercise some humility and just come out, say, I am sorry I canceled my event at the last second UGA team. Right. I was embarrassed to come out because there wasn't a lot of people, and I'm under a lot of pressure right now. That works. Humanity works. Okay, I did tell a stupid lie about the surgeon. It was a big lie. It was a really dumb lie. I don't know why I said it. You know why I said it? Because I was advised to by a really stupid PR agent. That's probably what happened. Right? Just deny that in the face of overwhelming evidence. Respond. Have the courage to respond. Okay, stop with the Hillary Clinton campaign. People want to ask Hillary Clinton questions about her past and what she did in Haiti. It's not because she's a woman. If people want to ask Erica Kirk questions about her past, whether or not she made up the AI video or AI audio of Charlie Kirk saying, I appoint my wife to take over me. If anything happens, answer the questions meaningfully. And if you're going to the White House correspondence, you know, to face people face to face. By golly, Erica, why don't you do that now? Why don't you have a roundtable with the people that are causing you the most grief? Get Baron Coleman. Do it live so the whole world can see it. Right? So it's not behind closed doors, as I said, Thousands of times over. This does not need to be in person, okay? Don't make unnecessary hurdles. Answer the questions once and for all. Just. Just answer the questions. These are. These are. These are big accusations, Erica. You lied. But I sat down with you and did this. You lied to my face. Doesn't work like that. You don't get to do that. Especially when it's regarding a murder. The murder of your husband. It's a weird thing for a widow to tell lies pertaining a Superman. Next. And to throw it on a Dr. Lee Trotter. And to claim that you weren't on the phone when you were and you facilitated that entire conversation. That's weird. That's not okay, Erica. So that's all I'll say about that. Okay. Now, speaking of lies, I'm very happy to now clear up what I was actually doing in Rome. I said I was on. I'm on no clock now. To respond to varying absurdities. I. It was. We left off before I went to Rome. And it was. Candace and her husband are living separated. I think this was according to Laura Loom. We were living separate and in two different houses. And I had dual citizenship. Of course, none of that is true. Then it was George is in a secret gay relationship with Milo. Proof presented was an AI photo of him wearing a Ricky Martin type silk shirt. Very clearly. AI by the way, just to say this, George had never even met Milo at all. Not once in London, until the day that I interviewed him here in this house. That was the first time that he said hi. That's it. Well, also, I'm hiding money in a trust from Brigitte. That again, is just showing legal stupidity. You don't have no idea how lawsuits work. But then when I went to Rome, right before I went to Rome, came her exclusive report that I was potentially paid half a million dollars by the Southern Poverty Law center to communicate David Duke talking points was the SPLC paying Candace Owens 500k a year to plagiarize David Duke. And I just didn't respond to that because it's just. It's just so kooky and so crazy. She doubled downed. And she said because she saw me flying with my husband, that David. Yeah, no, she. She rumbled me. I was fleeing the country because of her stunning report on the Southern Poverty Law Center. And due to her reporting, I was. I was fleeing to Rome and taking my money to Rome. Right. Candace Owens had to abruptly cancel her show today and travel abroad. She never alerted her audience of her travel plans. Interesting how she fleeing the country the same day that I reported her Zionist Jewish lawyer dropping her ahead of an important deadline in her lawsuit with the McCrones next week. Remember, I exposed her secret trust where she's hiding nearly $12 million in real estate among other assets. Her other lawyers firm specializes in bankruptcies. Is she moving her money abroad and hiding assets so she can file for bankruptcy? She's fleeing the country at Emanuel Macron. She alleges she's in communication with him now. Wow. I am. Woo. By the way, it's like 2026. You don't gotta get on a plane to move money man. Just send fire, right? You just, you don't have to get like, like completely crazy. And then once I got to Robe, the story was that I was meeting with Nick Fuentes and David Axelrod and Aubrey Leitch of Turning Point USA to have an anti Trump summit which was funded by Qatar. I think I'll just read the tweet in its entirety because this is the person that you can actually see why they don't want to deal with her in the White House. You can see what they don't want it. They don't want to have to keep responding to clinical insanity, she wrote. Are the radical left and the Woke Reich currently converging in Italy for a secret anti Trump summit? Just days after Barack Hussein Obama's top advisor, David Axelrod, met with the Pope, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes and the alleged Fire Turning Point USA leaker Aubrey Leitch all suddenly appeared in Rome. A reliable source informed me that Aubrey approached several conservatives last year in an effort to recruit them to attend a paid propaganda trip to Qatar. Did she register with Farah? The Woke Reich is nothing more than a massive grift. And I have suspicion it is all being funded by foreign dark money. Okay. And of course she doubled down on that. Another AI photo joke. An obvious AI photo joke from Aubrey saying, happy birthday, Candace. Like, I guess three of us decided to get on a small scooter. So the reality, just to clarify for everyone, is that I went to Rome with my husband and my children, who I am not living separately from, thank you very much, my husband, who I love dearly. And no, this was not an abrupt trip, but a completely planned. As it is, when you have children, you don't just pick up and flee a country. But it was a plan to trip to Rome, which I actually sort of announced back in March at the Catholics for Catholics event when I said this. To be a Catholic is to suffer. Our reward is not here. And I can't tell you how encouraging it is with all of the fighting that happens every single day to be in a room filled with people who share that same heart. And I just want to thank you guys so much for welcoming me and allowing me to be in my infancy, hopefully maturing and toward my confirmation, which will be next month. God bless you. Thank you so much. I was so nervous about this trip for a thousand different reasons, took this very seriously. Obviously spaced out the baptism from the confirmation because I understood the differences between those sacraments and I wanted to take it very seriously and go around the sun a couple of times and really understand what was happening in the church and my missal and asking every question that I had to ask. And it was an absolutely beautiful trip. I was confirmed by, in the old Latin rite by a cardinal. My priest flew in from London. So that was part of the reason why I had no response to Trump because I told my priest I would chill. And he was there when that happened and that went down and he's just given me the best advice and it was just. I can't even explain to you guys how amazing the trip was and what it felt like. How, how absolutely. I was just nerve wracked the entire time. I don't know why. I was just so nervous and completely overthinking my confirmation. And yeah, it was, it was just a blessing. Literally was a blessing. And so that is a Scooby Doo mystery. No, I did not see Aubrey, I did not see Nick Fuentes, I did not see David Axelrod. And yeah, I just wanted you guys to know that I have been confirmed and very excited about that. Something that I wanted to share with you guys. And I did really just forget, obviously we recorded the Corby hall episode because we were trying to cover for Thursday and I just kind of didn't. Well, we pre recorded it, so that was probably why I didn't think to mention. But yeah, it's done and I'm very excited. So thank you guys, especially to the Catholics worldwide that have been praying for me and to Christians worldwide that have kind of seen the journey and understand what we're up against. I know that it can sometimes feel so ugly, but that's kind of the process of fighting for what's right and fighting for what's true. And I feel even more prepared in many ways for the fights to come. And yeah, I guess just everyone, every single person, even you guys who are not Christian yet or I know that many of you guys have at least been putting your thoughts toward me and hoping for me and my family and praying for our safety day in, day out. We're not the ones that complain every day and tell you about the threats that we endure and tell you about how insane these people are and how difficult they try to make our lives. Because I don't want my show to become a wine fest. You know, I think God picks his soldiers. You know, you are never given more than you can handle. And maybe that really is the lesson from my butt ugly face that Trump shared when I and I got some uglier picks. So have someone on your team call me Trump. If you really want to go for the jugular, I can show you it was. It got worse than that. So that's all I'm going to say about that. And we'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, I want to tell you about Ethos because when you picture your future, you probably see the people that you love most, your family, your home, the life that you are building together. But there's a tougher question that most of us avoid, which is what happens to all of us when we're not here? That's what life insurance is really about. It's not for you. It's for them, your family. It's about making sure that they can stay in their home, pay off their debts, and keep moving forward no matter what. And that's where Ethos makes things simple. With Ethos, you can apply online in just minutes. There's no medical exam. 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NFC Boys writes the man this man was basically insolvent and broke, both personally referring to Corby hall and his business. And he gets an offer to sell 50,000 guns and he turns it down on principle. What a man. The response has been really amazing to the Kirby hall episode. And you, you can sense people's authenticity. I also let you guys know Victor Marks, he's posting all these videos. He never replied to my Instagram at all. And I followed up and I said it's weird that you're posting all these videos and you have not replied. I think the last time I checked that was like three days ago. So that, that, yeah, there's been, there's been no response. And like I said, his like little alpha macho man thing is not interesting to me. He can come onto the show and he can join by Zoom and we can do it live and he can present his side of things. I'm happy to have that and I want to make sure that he has the opportunity to do that. But that's going to be on my terms and not on his. And also, like, I don't want to be in the room with him. After everything I've heard, which I think is fair, I think that is spiritually discerning of me. Harry Taylor writes, I'm probably your least likely subscriber. I wasn't a fan of Charlie in the least and I wasn't historically a fan of yours either. Your methods and your research are impeccable and you seemingly immediately uncover the BS and bring it to light. You are loyal, brave and fearless, regardless of politics or preconceived notions or clips of things I've heard. I respect the hell out of you. I'm rooting for you in regards to Erica, Charlie and the French dude and his husband suing you continue kicking ass. Thank you so much. And, yeah, I mean, if they could see the jokes that I write in my phone about Brigitte, like, it's just. Yeah, that's just. There's a lot there. And, you know, we've gone through a lot. Oh, that's actually a great time. You brought up France for me to tell you guys that for my confirmation aim, I picked St. Joan, Joan of Arc. And it. Yeah, I just felt like there was a lot of synergy there. And also it happened in 1429, which I think is. It's like my birthday's 1429. And I do feel like, especially if you guys are in the book club, we are noticing that, like, all roads kind of leads back to France when we talk about freemasonry, things of that nature. By the way, the book club on Friday will be wrapping up this book and then we're reading my book next, which is really exciting. So if you'd like to buy a book, it's available on, I think still available on makeemasandwich.com and you can also buy it on our website. You can buy hard copy. You can do an autographed bundle if you want something that's signed. If not, and you're not in the book club, why aren't you? You should absolutely be in the book club. And we learn a lot. It's really fun. And this book that we just read in respond, because I hadn't read it before reading, obviously reading my book is going to be super fun. I actually haven't done an audiobook and there's so many things I want to talk about with my book. So if you want to join the book club, now is a great time to do that. Head to the website, join the book club, and join us for my book, Make Him a Sandwich, which we will be reading next. Okay, getting into today's comments, Riley England writes, happy birthday, Candace. So much fakeness and gayness while you were out. On a real note, congratulations on your confirmation. My mom and my little bro were in Rome as well. No. And had an audience with Pope Leo this morning. Morning. So cool. Praying for you. Always love from Houston. I hope your. Your mother and your little bro get my instructions that I left them beneath the Vatican. I did not have. I did not meet the Pope. I did not. I did some tours around the Vatican because I was with my Kids and they obviously, my son especially wanted to see the Swiss Guard. It was a total normal family vacation. Jubica writes, love you, Candice Owens. Thank you so much. That is so kind. I also see that that is Euros. So thank you from wherever you're from. Next time you do that, please tell me which country I love seeing how many countries around the world watch our show. Angie Lynn writes, candace wants all the smoke. She does not know how to duck. Happy birthday, my sister in Christ. I have no choice. I just. They're constantly coming for me all day, every day and everyone is just so disingenuous. I just wish they would just be honest. And like I said, I am willing to host these people on my platform and to have a conversation regarding the Charlie Kirk investigation that includes the neocons who are now just full on lecturing us at all times of every day and gaslighting us. I, I would love to sit down with you. I care. I am passionate about this case. I am passionate about justice. Justice does not mean looking the other way when Charlie's widow tells lies. No, that doesn't work. We woke now writes, my wife is going through what you went through with your skin. And seven years ago she had a similar freak accident with her ankle. We thought her condition was related to surgery. Thank you for your transparency. Yes, it is. What's weird is that like, I'm sure there's always like trace amounts of mold. I've lived in older houses and it never happened. And I'm so. I'm not educated on why that leak would have caused that reaction. But tell your wife it gets better. It really does get better. And the, the exhaustion and all of those things. And really it needs to be. The diet is the only way. I mean, I was like deathly ill obviously, after doing that diet. But it does get better. I should, you know, we, we should sell get well soon cards with my ugly, ugly face on there. Right? We should sell the Time magazine. I'm going to put a note for that. That for David. That would be a great. So people can get people cards when they're going through something and just remind them that no matter what you're going through, you never know. You could fast forward and the President of the United States, they could be using your photo. So smile. Boise Jet guy writes, Canis's transparency is toxic mold to Turning Point usa. It makes them look fugly. It makes them completely incapable of forming a coherent sentence or answering questions. I again, I will assert. Andrew K. You have my full permission to share that entire conversation, the context of that was a joke. And you have, you just have my full permission, like I am, I am totally okay with that. I, I trust the public to be discerning. Shay Walt writes, happy birthday. Text me back. We love you. Congratulations on your confirmation into the Catholic Church. Your photos were absolutely beautiful. Candice is a winner. She wins so big. Like the world has never seen Donald Trump. Probably. Allegedly. Definitely not. He's very clear. I am not cute at all. Old dog writes, happy birthday Queen. Never stop truthful rain. Thank you guys for all these birthday wishes. Megan writes, happiest birthday Candace. Cheers to a year of being filled with devotion, grace and wisdom. I think I'm going to write a book from Charlie's lens called My Friend Candace to teach children to choose their friends that will have their backs always. Oh, so sweet. That is really, really sweet of you to say. Thank you. Thank you, Megan. Eugenia writes for all the happiest birthday. To the most whole and complete woman in every way. You are the best. I wish more than anything to meet you in bond. I know we would totally get along, sister. I'm sure you will. I feel like I know all of you guys. I, I, I look forward to doing the show every day. I love what I do. I love my family. I love my life. I love my kids. I know that that's something Tucker always says too. He's like, you know, my life is so filled. It's my, my life just feels so fulfilled in, in, in many ways. And sometimes you look around, you're like, I'm like, man, did I deserve this, you know? And it's just, yeah, God has been very, very good. Kelly Martini writes some ish always going down when you take breaks. I, yes, 100%. It's like full on attacks whenever I am on a break. And it's because they know that I can't respond to it. And then they could like put out all this innuendo. I am glad though, that, you know, I didn't respond to it because it was just such a special trip and I was like, no. Nope. It felt like a wedding day for me. My confirmation. I was that nervous and I just was like, no, you are not. You people are not going to ruin this. I have looked forward to this for so long and they didn't. So there's that. They just could not encroach on my happiness. J.Q. writes, Please, no. Dear God, don't make us listen to Erica. That's worse than Chinese water torture. Love you, Candace. I just don't know how they don't realize how whiny it's gotten and how insincere it's gotten and how everyone can kind of see that. That outside of their orbit of influencers. So, yeah, I. I guess it's like I said, kind of deluding yourself and not realizing that the world is not with you. And, yeah, calling people names, it's just not. It's just not going to work. Damned writes. Keep on fighting the good fight. Candace. The demons and loonies are in such denial as they fear what you are all about the truth. God bless you and your family always. Thank you so much. And Seven Sheets, who always supports the show. Thank you. Seven Sheets, right. I'm assuming you're referring to this Laura Loomer clip. That was the roughest minute of Candace Owens, the show that I've had to endure. But thank you because you are enlightening, inspiring, and unifying. Strangely, none of your detractors are. We are here for it in faith and in prayer. I think a lot of people just aren't happy. And that's what it gets down to. I think that's what they want. They know I'm happy. And I think that that drives people insane who don't have that sense of completeness in their life. And they also hate the fact, obviously, that my voice is not owned. And so I will never, ever bend the knee to emotional blackmail, any of that. Like, just let the public have it. And I don't want to become what people in D.C. are. And, yeah, that's why I think a lot of you guys enjoy the show so much, and I'm grateful to have the platform that I do. Anyway, we did a long show today, 82 minutes. We will see you guys tomorrow. Sam,