B (9:56)

No, but he really loved Catholic Mass. He loved the ritual of it. He loved the beauty of old Catholic churches and the stained glass.

A (10:10)

And him and Erica would go sometimes.

B (10:12)

Yeah, well, Erica's a cradle Catholic, but she ended up kind of like me. I grew up Catholic and first Communion and went to Catholic high school. But then I ended up becoming a Christian in college through a Protestant church through a non denominational kind of more experience. It's actually a Presbyterian. And then it was kind of non, non denominational and. And I think Erica kind of follows that same path.

A (10:34)

She and I share that also, by the way. I just want to draw attention to. She's posted a photo of her and Charlie and the kids in Mass before and somebody in the comment section said, oh, are you guys converting? And she said, no, we just like attending sometimes. So she herself had said no.

B (10:47)

Yeah. And I think Charlie, one, one of the things Charlie really hated worshiping in like a gym, you know, or some. Some sort of kind of blank space that you turn into church. I don't. There's no problem. He didn't have a problem with the, the act of that. He just didn't prefer it. And he loved again, the ritual, the ancient, you know, feel of a Catholic mass and the fact that everybody around the world that was worshiping as a is Catholic. He loved, he loved that. So he had some really big theological hang ups with that. You can go check the videos out. Him debating with Michael Knowles, you know, in good fun. I mean, they were dear friends, but they loved kind of debating the whole Protestant versus Catholic thing.

A (11:32)

Now, given everything that I've, I've shared with you, does that conversation register as like totally and completely authentic or kind of trying to be like, yeah, no, like he loved the architecture of things, but beyond that, nothing was happening. Like, that's not, that's not fully honest. And it registered to me like a cover up of sorts. And I was wondering, like, what are we exactly covering up? Like, I wasn't going Catholic gang gang, wasn't trying to bring back a 30 years war. I was just sharing the communications that I had with him. And now I felt like suddenly so many people were racing to establish that his legacy was anything but Catholic. Catholic, right. Like he was super d duper Judeo Christian. And ironically, it was Judeo Christianity that I was challenging him on personally, like privately. And I was speaking to him about the political pressures of it, the way that I felt because of last year that it registered to me like more of a cult than a true theology or a religion or a religious aspect rather. And it was back in February of this year when out of nowhere, he's the one that actually messaged me and said, I'm sorry, and said, Catholicism is sounding better and better in February of 2024. This is kind of when we started having that discussion. We should chat soon. Catholicism is looking better and better. Okay. I then offered back to him a chart just showing how the phrase Judeo Christianity kind of is really associated with the dawn of the nation of Israel. Right. And we did chat about it. We chatted about. Talked about it a lot. And I was thrilled, like I said, and I was being honest, that he was attending Mass. Okay. But I want to again state that Charlie was not attending Rob McCoy's church. He was attending Mass. So it registered to me, again, as somewhat disingenuous when Pastor Rob McCoy came out and effectively asked me to, you know, stop looking into all of the things that had happened in the lead up to Charlie Kirk's assassination. Or at least asking me to pause it, rather would be more fair of an interpretation until the memorial. Right. I'm going to jog your memory here. Here is what Pastor Rob McCoy wrote on his Instagram after I exposed the now infamous Hamptons meeting which took place. He wrote this. Charlie Kirk was my friend and I was his pastor. I want to simply say this regarding Candace Owens. Charlie Kirk was a friend to Candace and never publicly spoke poorly of her. Although he disagreed with her. He never operated nor entertained gossip or innuendo concerning Candace. My only comment I offer regarding Candace is this. I only wish that at this tragic time of mourning, she would be the friend to Charlie that he was to her. He would never have treated Candace or her family in such a way had, God forbid, this tragedy been hers. All friend loves at all times. Proverbs. Now, I want to be very clear. If Charlie was a friend of mine, I sure hope if I was assassinated in front of the world, that he would. That he would raise hell to figure out what actually took place in that day. That's not being a friend. A friend is not someone who stays silent when lies are being told by the federal government. That's not a friend of the. Again, emotionally manipulative. The family can't have you finding out who actually killed him. The family can't have you looking into those things of who was pressuring him behind the scenes. That's just. That's not good for the family. Bothers me. I have to be honest. You, that bothers me. I don't even like that. To the untrained eye, he's kind of representing himself or representing Charlie as like a current congregant. Congregant of his church. I feel like a lot this year. I have been feeling as those. As though these pastors are just not as honest as they should be. Right. Is that the vibe? Like a lot of pastors are not really so concerned with the truth is what I would say. So we should zero in here on Rob and what his motivations might be. Right. Why did he decide to post this after I revealed that Hampton's meeting. Well, you should know I think most people do that. Both his son and his daughter in law work for Turning Point usa. So whether you want to represent that or not, they have a financial stake in the future of the company. He heads up the faith division. So Charlie's faith and what direction it was going into would actually matter, right? It would actually matter if Charlie and I never said he was going to decided one day to become Catholic. It would have financial implications. Want to be clear, I never had a conversation that Charlie was in the process of converting. Okay, but Rob in particular knew for an absolute fact that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him. That's what bothers me so much about this man. Him allowing these headlines Charlie's pastor speaks out. You know, crushes Candace because of what she said. Not whatever. I don't like it. He knew and others knew that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him. And I am now going to present you proof of what I am saying. This is an actual group chat which happened two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. There were nine people in total on this chat, including Charlie and Rob McCoy. I'm going to protect the names of the other seven for now. To be clear, I might actually release a name every day this week. But I want to show you this because suffice it to say, Rob McCoy was on this text thread and I think it helps contextualize him as a person in my view that he would attack me for telling the truth about the pressure that he was facing. Take a look. So Charlie writes in this group chat, just lost another huge Jewish donor. Two million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace. Somebody writes, ugh. Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause. Then somebody writes, donor writes, please do not invite Candace. That might feel good short term, but it's not good long term. In my opinion, like all groups, you're going to get a wide variety of opinions. That nasty free will thing that God bestowed on us makes life frustrating at times. After the dust settles a bit, maybe. So Again, this is 48 hours before Charlie was assassinated. He was very clear and he was very explicit and he did not back down out in that Hamptons meeting, which they're all lying about, nor in this text thread. I'm not going to reveal the names of the other seven. Actually, you know what? I disagree with myself. Four seconds ago. Let's just throw in Josh Hammer for funsies. He's on this chat. Okay, so what are we to make of that? Okay, now that I'm showing you this and showing to you that the conversations were real, I want you to reflect. And it took me a lot of patience to allow the lies that were being woven and the misrepresentations of people that were pretending that I was just, what, high on lying about Charlie and the pressure he was under, the attacks that not just me, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly faced for trying to stand up and tell the truth about what Charlie was actually going through. Why are you hearing it, though, from me and Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly? Isn't that weird? You got people that are hosting a show, have they in like, one honorable thing come out and said, like, you know what? F a couple of these donors who made his life a living hell in the last couple of weeks, why haven't they done that? Also a rabbi in that chat, like, why hasn't anybody made that move to at least say, to vindicate what I have been saying about what he was going through? That registers to me as very suspicious. I'm going to frankly say that it's suspicious to me. It makes me think that in the way. In the same way that Charlie was being pressured by money that you might be now run by that same money that those same donors might be running you to correct the ship and to focus yourselves on eulogizing Charlie as something and someone that never once flinched, never once for a single second doubted the Israeli cause. Now they want us to suddenly believe the best way to honor Charlie is to shut up. The exact opposite of what he quite literally laid down his life doing. Answering questions. Turning point. Answering the questions is what he was doing in the second that he died. Okay? And we all feel. We all are feeling spiritually the same way. So I'm just going to say it. They're not grieving, right? It's not up to us to decide how people grieve. But I will say unequivocally that you shouldn't grieve by lying or by gaslighting. Is that fair? Can we all agree you should not grieve by lying and gaslighting the public? They want us to believe that the only way that we can support and honor Charlie's legacy is by donating our money. But it would not be supportive for us to try to figure out who killed him and why the feds are lying. We should instead just trust the Feds and excuse their little Half truths that they're telling along the way. Now, on that point, they keep trying to make it seem like it's completely normal that four minutes after Charlie was shot, someone on their team nervously raced to grab the SD cards specifically from the camera that is behind Charlie's head. And that was because during that time, I think it's like trying to make it normal that his instinct was to stand on Charlie's chair to actually violate a crime scene, but also to mysteriously just grab the SD card out of the camera. Right. Not only are they pretending that that was completely normal, but they're also presenting it as though it was a heroic act. It was like a forthright, clarified act to do in that moment. And that anyone who uses their own eyes and sees it as maybe a little bit suspicious are just in the business of spinning conspiracies. Now, that's exactly what was communicated by Andrew Colvett when he sat across from Tucker Carlson, who was hosting Charlie's show. And gratefully, Tucker Carlson instantly responded with a much more sensible approach. Take a listen.

B (21:36)

By the way, just one other conspiracy theory. I just want to snuff out here one of our dear friends that literally, from the very beginning, started with us and loved Charlie like a brother. He grabbed the SD cards out of the camera afterwards, and there's all these conspiracy videos about, like, why did he grab the SD cards? Well, first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI. Okay? It's not like he took them and, like, ran off with them. Second of all, I asked him personally, I said, why did you do that? And he looked at me, and this was his answer. He said, because I know people can be evil. And he did not want that footage being grabbed by somebody. There was videos of people after the incident going and stealing hats off the table. I mean, so I'm so grateful he did that, and that that was his instinct. He's like, I'm depressed to know that that was why I did that. But I knew that I had to protect that footage because I know I wanted. I mean, you know, you're recording in, like, 4K, you know, and so I'm so glad he did that. But Charlie knew the existence of evil.

C (22:40)

And so can I say I think that people can feel the existence of evil and that just to put in a sympathetic word for people who are trying to make sense of this and coming to the wrong conclusions, I think they're motivated, for the most part, by pure intent. I think they don't trust the authorities. They have every reason to feel that way. I know that for a fact. Not the Trump administration in general. Like, we're not, you know, there's been a lot of lying and it's corroded the trust. That's not their fault, actually. They're the victims of point.

B (23:08)

Thank you for saying that.

A (23:10)

Yeah, thank you, Tucker, for saying that. And this is the reason why Tucker is so big, because he. He has this perspective. He understands, like, what the average person is thinking here. And the average person looks at that, and I think it's shady. And, you know, saying that there was this heart wrenching moment where you were worried because people were stealing stuff on the table, but also you took the SD card out and not the very expensive camera, which is. If you were worried about stealing and theft, maybe you would take the camera. But more importantly, there is. He says that the feds. That he. That he. He gave it to the feds. Right? Now, he doesn't insinuate, obviously, that they don't have the footage. Turning Point does have the footage. That's very clear. I saw partially the footage, which means it made it back home, or maybe they had it back home because they were recording it live. Whatever it is, it was being live streamed. But what he said actually conflicts with what Tyler Boyer is about to say, what he said over this weekend. Okay. Tyler Boyer, like I said, he's a COO of Turning Point Action. And he went on this kind of bender, worst kind of bender, Twitter bender, defending the organization. He thought he was defending them against public sentiments. During which time he refutes what Andrew Colvett is saying about the SD cards. Andrew says the Turning Point employee was worried about theft, but Tyler says that actually he was instructed to secure the SD cards before the campus went onto lockdown. Now, here's the tweet so I can show you that somebody said rightfully emotional manipulation and falsely equating scrutiny as some form of hate speech is not going to work here. You and Colvett admitted that the staff tampered with cameras and the most crucial video evidence in the largest political assassination in decades. Hiding makes him look guilty. And Tyler countered. Dude did not tamper with anything as he did. It's a crime scene. The law enforcement officers asked them to turn them over immediately so they didn't get lost in commotion before they took everyone into lockdown. Now, that is just not true. That is not true. What Tyler is saying is not true. I spoke to that Turning Point individual. I, as I told you, and he never once mentioned that police officers. I explicitly asked him, why did you take the SD cards out specifically of the camera behind? And the answer that I was given was, sounded more like Andrew. What Andrew Colbett said, you know, I was emotional. I knew that Charlie was dead. And my instinct, he told me, was to take. Make sure that I secured the footage so that Erica would not have to see it again. Like he didn't want Erica to have to see it and have to relive it. That is what he said to me on the phone. Nothing about police officers. No one's ever heard police officers asked them to secure the footage before lockdown until Tyler Boyer tweeted this weekend, I don't like it, okay? I just don't like it. Now, to be fair, Tyler is making it clear that he is responding to all of these tweets, or X's, whatever we're supposed to call them, because there have been people, he says, that have flat out accused the organization of having a hand in Charlie's murder. He doesn't share when or where exactly that happened. I think people feel you're being dishonorable by not questioning the narrative, but I don't. I don't. I haven't read anybody that's explicitly accused them of murder. In fact, the. The tweets that he's responding to all seem to be pretty fair in my opinion, you know? Now, regarding the missing campus footage, there is a user that begged Tyler to file an FOIA request, and that user wrote this. Please, I beg you, focus on getting the security footage of the sequence pre jump off the LOSI building where we can see Robinson in shot position and corroborate the story. Like, file an F. Sorry, File an foia. Get that footage. Keep it simple. And he responds and he says, guys, there's camera footage all over that campus that the police have, plus all the cameras that we had. They likely won't release it until the trial. Now, there's just one problem with that narrative, right? If they have all this footage and they're just not releasing it because they just want to. What? They're just worried about the trial to make sure they win the trial. What's wrong with that narrative is the manhunt that took place, if indeed they have tons of footage from all these different angles and some of it in 4K, which they do. This is why we've been saying the feds are lying from day one. Then the first time that that footage should have been deployed was during the 33 hour manhunt, right? Why didn't they release more footage at that time, right? They were. If they were actually interested in catching the killer, why only release a blurry image when there is, as he mentions, footage everywhere, all over that campus, every inch. Are we supposed to honestly believe at that time their thought process in the middle of a manhunt was, well, let's not release too much except for a blurry image because I know we don't have him, but in case we do have him, when we do get him, we want to make sure that we are able to try him by not releasing footage, which makes no sense, by the way. I think this is what happens when a company loses there as South Park Rib Tim, Master debater. Right? What they're saying does not make sense. These people could not win it in college campus debates without Charlie. Okay? Because the reality is if that if releasing footage, okay, if releasing clear footage of what happened on that day means that you are going to lose in court, that it probably signifies that the person that you are trying to bring to court didn't do it. If they're somehow vindicated by the footage. If you're like, I released the footage of him jumping down on the center and I show him firing the shot and but like that totally vindicates him, then you got the wrong guy, right? Having more footage, examining more footage and examining more evidence should further incriminate Tyler Robinson. It should also go a very long way in getting people off of these quote unquote conspiracies. Common sense is what I said in the beginning. Release the footage which you do have in your possession. It's not like just the feds have this footage, release the footage because then people will move on from quote unquote conspiracies. So everything they're saying right now doesn't make sense. 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Right, you honor Charlie, of course, by donating A Turning Point USA and shutting up and trusting the feds don't question anything because it's just not right or whatever. You shouldn't even question the things that Charlie was questioning. Right? The spin is in. I got really annoyed last night going through somebody tagged me and said, you see, Alex Clark posted and tried to make it seem like I lied about the new Doge department when I literally shared the email from Charlie. They're even using this kind of like I call it Christian slop, okay? Because what they're serving up to you is, well, if you're a good Christian, you shouldn't do this. Like they kind of saying it's demonic. You're possessed by a demon. If you want to pursue truth said literally no one ever but Satan incarnate, okay? Truth is truth. It is always appropriate. Another one of these talking points for coming out is people are doing this for clicks. They're motivated by money. Do you guys understand the tens of millions of dollars that Turning Point USA made in the two weeks following Charlie Kirk's assassination. And it is. It would be insane for a person to suggest that if a random guy on YouTube catches a million views discussing ballistics, which there have been many gun guys who have done videos on ballistics and caught a million views, that that's somehow immoral because they're maybe gonna make $10,000 if they keep that up for an entire month. Like that is insane. And it. It actually relies on financial literacy to think that that's immoral. Good for them. Good for them. If you have a small account and you somehow got a million views because you told the truth, then bless you. Okay. Don't let them shame you. Doing it for clicks. Oh, no. Their account talks about ballistics all the time. This is now just a political assassination. The most high profile ever. And people want to understand every aspect. So we're clicking and we're watching these individuals that look like they know what they're talking about, especially in the absence of any truth coming from the quote, unquote authorities. So what are we supposed to believe? That the more moral thing would be for us to behave like Turning Point USA employees, You know, Alex Clark calling me out, you kidding me? Should I do what she did? And I. It would have been more moral for me to invite the Wall Street Journal, a literal week after Charlie is murdered, to photograph me in high boots standing over his memorial site at the office. Like the outside memorial vigil where people mourn and drop off flowers and gifts. Because that's exactly what Alex Clark did. And I thought it was icky, I thought it was gross, but I didn't say anything because everybody mourns in their own way. But I gotta stop saying that. I gotta stop saying everybody grieves in their own way. This is the article that was published on September 18. So we can assume that they at least photographed her one day and interviewed her one day earlier. Right? That's being charitable. So this was done latest again, one week after Charlie was assassinated. Again. Take a look at this. Pull that up. I'm gonna pull this photo up because I just wanna look at the photo. This is literally her being shot in front of the GIFs that people are dropping off for Charlie. But maybe it's Photoshop. Doesn't look like it is to me. Even if it was photoshopped, I would be losing my mind. I don't understand how anyone would let this go out and think that it's okay if they knew Charlie. I couldn't even speak to the press that week. I still haven't spoken to the press about Charlie Kirk. Actually not. I haven't even given one interview about Charlie Kirk because it felt icky to me. I'm just focused on investigating his murder. Anyways, I want to read a little blurb from this article again. Published September 18, Alex Clark was about to head to the airport for a work trip to celebrate the first anniversary of her podcast when she heard the news. Her boss, Charlie Kirk, had been shot. She says, quote, the very first thought that popped into my head was, I'm so glad that Charlie knew Jesus, said Clark, 32, who hosts the Maha friendly podcast Culture Apothecary Returning Point usa. The second thought was, what will happen now? And the third thought was, thank God Trump is president. I don't know. You people around the world didn't even know. Didn't even know Charlie. Okay, third thought, thank God Trump is president. Like, Maga, did you go? Maga, did you go? Like, I'm glad he knows the Lord. And then Maga, what are we missing here? What? What? Like, I. Does that feel okay at all? Goes on to say she praises the FBI director, Cash Patel and his deputy Dan Bongino for their leadership in the hunt for the suspect. What's so crazy is that we have them in office because of Charlie, Clark said. So honor the feds. Quick pick outside. And also the Maga. Maga. Hard. That is like, I'm sorry. I get it. Everybody grieves differently. Okay, but not that way. The last thought that I had as I spent days crying, okay, had difficulty physically pulling myself out of bed, felt like I was being a bad mother, was, man, I'm sure glad Donald Trump is president. Maga. I didn't feel that way. Didn't feel that way. In fact, was angry. I remember feeling angry when Trump moved to kind of like, do a same time post BB Netanyahu and then like, publishes a picture of Charlie with an Israeli flag behind. Was pretty angry about that. I thought, yuck, that's gross. Have you no dignity and respect Post picture him with his family, you know, trying to, like, already sow seeds into people's minds that, like, no, he, he, like, kind of died for Israel. He loved Israel so much. This would be appropriate, especially in the context of the message I just read to you. It was gross. Anyways, I, I, I just, I don't know why. I don't know why. But the people that are critiquing us for investigating the murder are not critiquing themselves. They're not holding a mirror to themselves. Anyways, Alex has decided to share a Total half truth PR spin. Another tweet from Tyler Boyer where he responds to someone asking about Charlie establishing a Doge department. Again, we presented that to the public. We showed the internal email, the internal memo that went out. It was Charlie in his own words. We showed the who. I didn't read the paragraph where he announced that Justin Strife would be the coo, but we read the entirety related to the Doge Department. And here's what Tyler says about that. He says she took a sentence and made something up. Tpusa doesn't audit every year. Always. Has Charlie constantly looked for ways to make everything we do more efficient. That's tpusa. It operates eight times more effectively than any other similar operation. So what did I make up when I shared an email and Charlie said he wanted to establish a new Doge department? Why would he call it new if he was doing it every year? And wow, what foresight you had as a company that's been around for, like, 10 years or more. Maybe more. 10 years that you were doing doge since the beginning. No, you're conflating. And it's dishonest. It's dishonest. The audit has F. All. Okay, F all to do with DOSH. The audit is what 501 C3s are instructed to do. Audit. Get an independent auditor and audit yourselves or else the IRS will hound you. Now, when you are auditing yourselves, I will guarantee you the Clinton foundation audited themselves annually. That does not mean that there is not corruption. It does not mean. It means that you're doing things that are above board from a government perspective. Government perspective. It does not mean that within your own organization there is not corruption. That is the reason for a Doge department, at least according to what Elon Musk said. Nobody, when he established DOGE with a Vikramaswamy, was thinking that he was going in there because he was going to see if they're violating the IRS laws. No, I think he went in there to see wasteful spending and to see where the money was going, where our tax dollars was going. That's the vibe I got. So they're relying on us to be, again, financially illiterate, to not understand how it works. I shared a 501C3 lawyer with them. So I met her in her offices with Charlie, and she explained the reasons why. She said that you got an independent auditor. I actually think that for organizations of a certain size, you're required by law to do an annual audit. If you're 501c3. I think it's state by state that guides that. But to present this like this means we're above board. I have a feeling some people are going to die on that sword because the reality is, is that big companies, inevitably you will find corruption. And I'm hearing some stuff. Okay, a lot of contractors, that's something that you can do. As just one example that's completely legal but utterly immoral is if you're outsourcing all of the millions of dollars to contractors and you're getting kickbacks. That's just one example. Okay, so I take money from donors and then I show that I'm paying out to a contractor who doesn't work for Turning Point usa, but that contractor is then somehow paying me back. That would be something that wouldn't flag the irs, but then would flag a CEO of and a Doge department if they started looking at where the money was spending. I hope that clarifies matters. Now, shifting gears only slightly. I don't often or really ever speak about my faith journey, right? Because I'm still on it. And I don't want to make a mistake or be wrong. And in many ways I kind of feel like this pressure that I don't want to let Catholics down because I don't know everything and I prefer the people that have been Catholic forever to speak on things as I'm still a student. But I do want to say that a major clue for me that being non denominational was no longer working for me, happened because of things politically when I tried to express certain questions about the modern state of Israel and was instead met with what I can only describe as cult like behavior. You're seeing it right now, right? Judeo Christian after Judeo Christian, making videos, cannons can't. It's like cult like behavior. You can't leave, right? There's only one way out of here. People quoting scripture to actually fulfill what became quite obvious to me was just their political lens. And yeah, people taking money to do that, keeping it above bar, it's not illegal. But you are taking money, you're taking free trips. So what are your motives here? If you're citing scripture to defend the actions of Bibi Netanyahu, you're a fraud. Of course you're a fraud. And if you're accepting money to do that in the process, you're worse than a fraud. Anyways, I want to show you guys this clip that someone sent me. This was a sermon which was given by a pastor on September 21, 2025. Now it's not necessary to name the Judeo Christian pastor. Right. I'm never trying to put any fire on them because I actually think what they're doing is important. Because I find out about all these sermons because their congregants are sending them to me. Right. They've got the CIA in their own congregation and people are going. And I stopped attending that day because I realized something's not right here. I want you to listen to this pastor's words because you might too feel similarly inspired to recognize that something is wrong. And I want to also be clear here. It's not every pastor, it's gonna be fair for me to say that, but pastors that have a very strong political bent, something's not right there. All right, now to tee this up. The title of his sermon is what has Defiled you? And he has decided for this particular sermon to pull from Paul's letter to the Corinthians. And that specific biblical passage that he cites is chapter seven, verse one. And it reads, the Bible reads, therefore, beloved, since we have these promises, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that defiles body and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Now, you don't need to be a priest or a pastor to think right now about what you might perceive is the point of that passage. Probably thinking through it. Yeah. Yep. It's important. Body, spirit, probably not. What you're thinking right now is that this has something to do with Megyn Kelly. You're probably not thinking, Paul wrote this letter to the Corinthians because there's a point that he wants to prove about Megyn Kelly. But he's going to get there. That's how this pastor is going to get there. He's going to explain that. Take a listen.

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Why am I bringing this up? Because I was watching an interview with Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and this is what they said. Everyone under 30 in America is against Israel. The older generation is not. Because we've seen the Six Day War in 1967. There wasn't a narrative that was so prevalent right now, right now with, with, with foolish people that are so deceived, like a Candace Owens and like a Nick Fuentes. And young people are eating that up and they're changing their philosophy on what these people say that do not do, do not base your ideology unless somebody has a Bible open. That is where your ideology comes from. You're going to be like that tree hugging hippie mom that I'm trying to save her kids from being bitten by a rattlesnake and dying. And she's all worried about some habitat when she knows she's not welcoming in rattlesnakes in her home. And our ideologies, when we really, really think about them, they've been formed by a society that is not basing everything they believe out of the word of God. And I challenge you today, if I've said anything that you don't think is right, bring your Bible and show me. Because if I'm wrong, I want to know.

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Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted. I really, like, look, far be it from me. I'm not a seminarian. I really don't think that is what Paul. I just don't. I don't think it was about Nick Fontes. Call me crazy, I know you guys do on Sundays, but I don't think it was about Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens and the modern created state of Israel. Again, I could be wrong. I'm open like you to being incorrect, but it's just like there's something that is so fundamentally disgusting. And I hope you guys agree about using the Bible to justify your own personal rants. Using the Bible to justify why you're attacking somebody preaching a sermon. Like, just start a podcast. You can be like me, right? I'm not sitting here going, turn your Bible here. And you are, you know, defile and blah, blah, blah. And what this really means is like, that turning point is like, that's there's something so incredibly evil about that. He has a quick second here when he wraps up his points about me that I want to get to because I've started to realize I don't even think he knows what defile means. Actually. Take a listen.

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You need to go to the Lord and say, what has defiled me. Hopefully some of you that have been defiled with the nation of Israel because you've been in an echo chamber of Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens, that defilement has now come off of you. You. And you're going to block them because they're anti what scripture says. What defiles you. What defiles you.

A (49:28)

So I think what he is saying, that if I'm being charitable here, he's suggesting, like, you'll somehow be saved if you block me on insta. What is this actually? What is that? I'll tell you what it is. It's completely heretical in a theological sense, but it's also unhinged. It's just unhinged. He looks unhinged. It's like he. It's like so much relies on him getting his point across, so he just like, opens his Bible, points to a verse and just throws it up and says whatever he wants to. He's basically me on like aim when I was in the 8th grade, picking out quotes from like, you know, whatever those quote websites are and just like throwing it on my away message. There's no rhyme or reason that he's doing this. Just a feeling that he has and he wants to express it and justify it using a quote without its context or even understanding of why that quote was said or why that biblical passage was written. It's wrong and it's also deranged. Everything that's happening right now to continue to justify the state of Israel is doing, the modern state of Israel is doing, which has nothing to do with the ancient Israel. Biblical Israel is. They are now trying to censor us, trying to control our speech. They are murdering children. And so the more that you defend this and that, you pretend that this is what God wants, the more that you will expose yourself, right? The more that you expose yourself. Even this headline is crazy. This, this, this came out that, like their TikTok, which we covered this before moderation team like IDF soldiers and Bibi Netanyahu saying, we're taking over Tik Tok. My agents are going to get that in a purchase. That's what needs to happen so that we can win. Announcing essentially psychological warfare on, on the American people because they don't think we can think for ourselves and decide who we want to follow on X all by ourselves. Apparently they're going to ban the juice box emoji, right? Because people, because they can't talk about the modern state of Israel, have been using like at the apple juice because juice can sound like Jews. And so they're now moderating that. And I will say this, that's going to be funny because it's just. It's going to be a game like whack a mole and all we can do is laugh at it. Because these people are savvy. These tiktokers are like, they're pretty savvy on the Internet. They're gonna be. Something's gonna be announcing like, let's use this emoji instead from now on. This represents the modern state of Israel and before you know it, there's going to be no emojis that are allowed on TikTok. Actually, it would be funny. The funniest thing that they could possibly do right now is every time you want to talk about Israel on TikTok, use the term TikTok and see if TikTok will ban TikTok from TikTok. That's how we win. Like if that happens, we win. Okay? We get to laugh forever that we made TikTok ban TikTok because TikTok is actually code Israel, the modern state of TikTok. That's what I want you guys to do because that would just be funny and we have to actually have fun because it's getting so crazy. We have to actually have fun and continue to smile and laugh and to be happy warriors for truth. Because Charlie always believed in being a happy warrior. That is, that is just a fact. Anyways, you guys, let's, let's let me read some more of our sponsors for today before I get into some of your comments. First, I wanna tell you guys about Pure Talk. Our society works because of the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment. Everyday Americans should be able to speak openly about honesty, family and traditional values without retribution. And that's a principle that Pure Talk proudly supports. They sponsor my show, which allows me to stand strong behind the microphone every day and share the truth with you. 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That's americanfinancing.net Owens Cameros Owens Cameros Owens Somebody wrote me a message and was like Candice, you said your name wrong. They missed the operation. Mocking Pastor Joke Cameron Owens is my pastor stage name. When they're talking trash about me, I actually love that so much. All right, let's get into some of your comments. What is on your mind? I'm gonna be in so much trouble, man. I'm gonna get off here airwaves and be like, she's not. She is just, yeah, I'm there. I'm there now. I just don't like it. I just not getting the right vibe. And I know everybody else feels it too. And I'm just really tired of these influencers making the videos are all saying the same thing in a different way. I think we're dumb and, like, it's all happening organically. It's like, it's just tiresome. It's really tiresome. So if I have a take on everybody so we can get some truth, then that's what it is. That's just what it is. Jennifer Murchison writes, praying for your safety. Candace, keep digging, please. You are onto something. We need truth. Thank you, Jennifer. That is a massive donation. I really, really appreciate that all of you guys have been donating to the show to support us. Like, I just want, you know, like, we really appreciate it and we see it. Melissa Forberg, similarly, the really nice donation here spent the weekend researching the Kabbalah. It was, to say the absolute least, terrifying. Thank you. Yes, it is very important. Of course, if you are in my book club. We're about to really get into it. By the way, tomorrow we start the book, which they don't want to resell, which is crazy. I don't know where David Bakan's children are. The author of the book, he is Jewish himself. But I'm just wanting to know that you're being like, they're blocking money from you. They don't want the public to read this book, which you can download and find it online for free. But, like, still, it's pretty crazy that they are now realizing people are catching on that book. We'll dive into the Kabbalah. It's very important to know. Similarly, like I've said from the beginning, we have different denominations within Christianity. That's kind of what this whole episode has been about. I don't know why one. Like, I don't know why so many evangelicals have such vitriol for Catholics. The feeling is not mutual, genuinely. The feeling is not mutual on the Catholic side or on the Orthodox side. And so it's interesting to say the least. But similarly, within Judaism, there are different sects. There just are. And we don't realize that we don't know what they believe in. We just go, oh, well, it's Judaism, it's the, it's just, you know, it's the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible. No, there's also the Talmud, there's also the Kabbalah. And to just not actually study and understand all of those differences, it makes us extremely ignorant and very likely to be indoctrinated into one of those religions convinced that it's actually modern science, which is what's actually happening. I think we kind of live in a kabbalist society more than anything else. And I think that this book that we're going to read will help you get there. We really have. We go there in the book club. We go there. And so if you'd like to join the book club, we are starting a new book tomorrow. Tomorrow will be an introduction, an introduction to that book. We will wrap up this last book that we read which is similarly terrifying, which is the Assault on Truth. The scales will fall from your eyes if you read the Assault on Truth. To understand how they will lie to protect the most evil people in the entire world, you have to destroy your belief system about Sigmund Freud and then you're ready to learn about what Sigmund Freud actually what his major contribution was. And that's the book we're diving into next. Sigmund Freud in the Jewish Mystical Tradition is the name of that book by David Bakan that we will be starting on tomorrow's book club. Lauren writes. Lauren Houlin writes. You mentioned the suspicious way so many of the individuals surrounding Charlie's case are new to their role. I live in Dallas and I noticed after the ICE shooting that Daniel Comeau, the Dallas police chief, is new to the role. As of April, we are all being lied to. Yeah, it's almost like they're like actors, you know what I mean? You're going to just play the role of sheriff when we do this thing. You're going to play the role of this and everyone's going to be so new. It's pretty lame. It is pretty lame. Again, questions we're allowed to ask them. Expose the truth. Writes I had been a Catholic my whole life and attended a non denominational church once and found it to be cringy. Like that pastor that you showed the video of. Keep fighting for truth. I'm sure Charlie is cheering you on from heaven, praying for you. You know, actually to tell you how emotional I was after Charlie's death was really just not myself. Obviously But I was upset. I was almost upset with my priest because it went on Sunday. I expected him to, like, say something about Charlie Kirk, which is not what he should be doing. Like, you can dedicate a mass to somebody. But he didn't say anything about Chuck. And I was like, oh, like, I don't like that. And then now that I've removed from that, I actually appreciate that. Like, that is what I actually find that I love about the Catholic religion is like, there's not. There's no political bent there. Like, that is what I love. And I attend, you know, the Latin mass. And I. What I was upset with, I now really appreciate in the retrospect that, you know, there's no drop of politicism when you're in the room. Jennifer Barney writes, I admire you so much. It's easy to drop something and go with the flow. Don't drop this. Something is not right. Thank you, Candace, for being our voice. I'm grateful. I'm actually so grateful I can be your voice. And I'm grateful that you see that when they're attacking me, they're just kind of attacking people for asking the most basic of questions. And again, I would like to. I'm so grateful to Tucker. I think he's also one of our voices. He immediately interjects and he's like, well, let's be fair here. The feds have lied about everything always, so why should we think this is different? Especially when they're dropping these weird text messages. So, yeah, I'm. I'm grateful that you guys trust me to be your voice. And obviously, you guys were kind of all on the same squad here. So it's because of the information that you're giving me that I'm able to even platform it. So I owe. I have so much gratitude for you guys as well. Every morning, I start the day with gratitude, and I always say how grateful I am for the platform that I have been given by God and the people that have invested in me by just watching and hearing what I'm saying and standing up for me when I can't stand up for myself because I'm being attacked from every which direction. So from the bottom of my heart, I do want to say thank you to you guys. Moderator Marzi writes. Rob o', Neill, the guy who shot bin Laden, questions the story of Charlie on Piers Morgan Show. Also, the South African ambassador to France was found dead in a Paris hotel. Oh, no. France. France. It's hot right now. France. France is. You guys already know. Look, I want to say this. I want to say this. Make sure I read all this. Oh, I budget also asked, what's the update on your Australian visa status? I want to answer that real quickly. Your Australian fans need you. You know, the. The Supreme Court of Australia heard. I don't think it's called the Supreme Court. You guys call it something else, but it is. Your Supreme Court heard our arguments and we are still awaiting a decision. Obviously, we can't rush them in their decision, so you will be the first to know when we hear back. Speeches. Speech is on the line. But of course, we will always respect the decision of any country. We've never been in trouble. So it's weird that I can't travel to Australia. It's very strange to me. Everybody else can travel to Australia that's been in ton of tons of trouble. But that is the power of truth when it is spoken. That is what is so amazing. All of the money in the world that Israel has, the money that they spend on influencers, people that have been assassinated by trying to get them to register under Farah presidents, everything that they have done and every piece of that carefully woven tapestry of deception is falling apart because people are speaking truth. That is why free speech is important. Right? That is why it is. The single thing that they want to attack first is because truth, when spoken, that's Christ. Christ is truth. Right? It is that powerful. And that's something to be amazed by. Be amazed that they are scrambling and they want us to stop speaking and to stop communicating and to shut down communications. It shows you the power, you know, the power of Christ. Truly. I will say in closing and going back to France, if I found Brigitte's penis, I will find who killed Charlie Kirk. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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