Candace Episode 272: Turning Point Has Been Keeping A BIG Secret. Did Charlie Know About It?

Released: December 2, 2025

Host: Candace Owens

Overview

In this solo, raw, and unfiltered episode, Candace Owens delivers her most comprehensive and personal investigation since Charlie Kirk’s assassination, focusing on the shadowy interconnections between the FBI, French and American elite families (specifically the DuPonts), Turning Point USA, and a mysterious, secretive multi-billion-dollar donation involving a French-American billionaire. Using direct tips, behind-the-scenes sources, and her own experience, Candace raises uncomfortable questions about hidden power, betrayal, and the real forces influencing American conservative organizations.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Riddles of American Power, the FBI, and French Royalty (01:20 - 06:30)

• Candace opens with the classic "chicken or egg" riddle, drawing parallels to the United States' origin and the lasting influence of French elites and Freemasons in American institutions.
• She argues that America’s foundational narrative is a cover for subtler and more persistent transnational power structures, particularly involving French families (like the DuPonts) and secret societies.

"Turns out, actually... our FBI was founded by the French. In theory, the FBI really is in France’s building over in Wilmington. If you think about it for a long time." — Candace (04:22)

2. The DuPont Family, FBI Offices, and Connections to Delaware (06:30 - 17:35)

• Responding to a tip, Candace dives into the DuPont family’s almost total control in Wilmington, DE—where FBI offices and numerous corporate/NGO entities reside.
• Deep dive into disturbing DuPont history: Candace reads from a Vanity Fair article about Robert Richards IV—DuPont heir convicted of raping his daughter, who avoided prison due to the family’s influence.
• Discovers her own lawsuit legal paperwork was handled through a firm with a DuPont patriarch.

“Everything is DuPont. Vanity Fair article continues. The heir to the DuPont chemical fortune, and to be clear, that is what they specialize in, chemicals, chemicals that are used in war. We’re going to get more into that later.” — Candace (13:45)

3. The Proximity Web: Turning Point, FBI, and Shell Companies (17:35 - 22:10)

• Details multiple entities—including Turning Point USA, Brigitte Macron’s lawyers, and shell companies—all operating out of suspiciously contiguous Wilmington blocks.
• Discusses Stacy Sheridan (Turning Point’s Senior Advancement Director) and Tyler Boyer’s roles. Expresses unease at Stacy’s influence after Charlie’s death.

“I did not like her at all. Just the vibe was off... That’s when I kind of notoriously said to [Charlie]: you can’t go down this path with money.” — Candace (21:18)

4. Tracking Planes, International Money, and Timeline to Assassination (22:10 - 31:15)

• Lays out an intricate timeline intertwining Turning Point events, foreign donor sponsorships (“Why Refi”), odd Egyptian plane movements through Wilmington, and the final days before Charlie Kirk’s death.
• Raises questions about foreign, especially French and Israeli, monetary flows into Turning Point and suspiciously late event planning.

“And I am musing here, but I’m wondering if Why Refi, after Charlie lost millions of dollars, said, ‘Hey, you can make that up by going on tour.’ ... Maybe Charlie actually wasn’t planning on going on tour at all.” — Candace (27:05)

5. The Bibi Netanyahu Offer and Turning Point’s Billion-Dollar Secret (31:15 - 41:00)

• Reports that Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu personally offered Charlie Kirk to “take Turning Point to the next level”—a proposal Charlie refused.
• Suggests Charlie may have uncovered illicit foreign money flows and prompted an audit of Turning Point’s finances.

“Charlie said no. So Charlie died with his soul intact. Dying for the soul intact. He said no.” — Candace (39:40)

6. The Secret Donor: Pierre DuPont and Life-Changing Money (41:00 - 47:30)

• Candace reveals, via multiple Turning Point internal sources, the highly secret negotiation for a massive donation/IPO-linked deal from a French-American billionaire named “Pierre”—later identified as Pierre DuPont.
• Suggests that this offer was handled with utmost secrecy; only a few at Turning Point knew. After Charlie’s assassination, an immediate phone call was made to Pierre by the new COO.

"Oh, you figured it out. It’s Pierre Dupont... I cried really hard yesterday thinking, my goodness, how could I have forgotten that this donor was French, French American, that that was the big thing." — Candace (45:23)

7. Turning Point’s Culture, Betrayal, and Mourning Charlie (47:30 - 58:50)

• Candace reflects on Charlie Kirk’s ideals, their shared youthful optimism, and her alienation in political circles predicated on money, influence, and betrayal.
• Shares personal texts with Charlie, his premonitions about dying young, and his skepticism about power structures.

"Charlie always said he felt like he was a time traveler. This is a conversation. I would say, I’m an alien... He said, ‘I think I’m a time traveler. This is my home.’" — Candace (53:28)

8. Prophetic Warnings, Geopolitics, and the Looming Threat of War (58:50 - 1:07:10)

• Explores a 2018 prophetic message from Charlie about an inevitable, devastating war tying together America, France, Israel, and chemical warfare—political events that eerily mirror recent patterns.
• Candace confesses her present sense of dread, relates current disasters (wildfires, floods) to possible orchestrated events, and warns her audience to prepare and stay vigilant.

"In our lifetime we will experience real war beyond anything that we can fathom. Absolute and total destruction." — Charlie Kirk, cited by Candace (1:02:06)

9. Turning Point’s Future: Real Estate Scheme and Broader Implications (1:07:10 - 1:10:25)

• Shares a tip that Turning Point intends to leverage its audience to launch a real estate empire selling homes to young Christians—a marked shift from its original mission.
• Asks whether this aligns with Charlie’s vision or marks another departure after his death.

“They are planning to leverage Turning Point’s position with young Christians... to build and sell houses.” — Candace (1:09:21)

10. Calls for Truth, Resilience, and Closing Reflections (1:10:25 - End)

• Cautions the audience about the “matrix” of lawsuits and intimidation now targeting her, vows to remain on the side of truth, and invites supporters to stay engaged.
• Reads moving comments from listeners expressing gratitude, heartbreak, and outrage at the “French connection.”
• Calls for true accountability from Turning Point ("We deserve a clear answer.") and hints at further revelations to come.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "The FBI was founded by the French. In theory, the FBI really is in France’s building over in Wilmington... Welcome back to Candace." (04:22)
• "The heir to the DuPont chemical fortune... chemicals that are used in war. We’re going to get more into that later." (13:45)
• "You can’t go down this path with money, okay? Because... you can run into trouble that way." (21:18)
• "[After Charlie’s assassination]... this donor actually had a pretty big piece of bait on the hook for Turning Point USA. A piece of their billion-dollar company." (43:48)
• "Charlie said no. So Charlie died with his soul intact... He said no to a lot of money." (39:40)
• "How could you promise that your IPO was going to lead to billions of dollars? ... Did Charlie know?" (46:02)
• "In our lifetime we will experience real war beyond anything we can fathom. Absolute and total destruction." (via Charlie Kirk, 1:02:06)
• "The White Walkers were building an army— and they’re here. So that’s the sense of dread I have about what’s happened in this country. And they are Bolsheviks and they believe murder is their right. They hate Christians." (1:13:20)
• “Charlie knew he was going to die young. But also... he felt, as he intimated to me, he had to take that option so that people would wake up.” (1:14:00)
• "If they're gonna be soldiers for darkness, then we have to be soldiers for [God]." (1:17:18)
• “It’s too French, right? It's just too French. We just can't all be hanging out in Delaware.” (47:00)

Important Segment Timestamps

• Opening, Chicken/Egg Riddle, French Influence: 00:00 – 06:30
• FBI, DuPonts, and Delaware Web: 06:30 – 17:35
• Turning Point & Suspicious Proximity: 17:35 – 22:10
• Timelines of Planes, Money, & Assassination: 22:10 – 31:15
• Netanyahu’s Offer, Turning Point’s Billion-Dollar Secret: 31:15 – 41:00
• Pierre DuPont Revelation: 41:00 – 47:30
• Cultural Reflections, Mourning Charlie: 47:30 – 58:50
• Geopolitical Dread & Prophecy: 58:50 – 1:07:10
• Turning Point’s Real Estate Move: 1:07:10 – 1:10:25
• Listener Reactions & Call for Truth: 1:10:25 – end (~1:21:00)

Tone and Style

• Candid, Introspective, and Often Raw: Frequent asides about personal recollections, grief, spiritual feeling, and anxieties.
• Investigative: Heavy reliance on “sleuths,” insiders, and document-based evidence interwoven with unanswered questions.
• Defiant: Vocal refusal to be intimidated by legal threats, trolls, or institutional backlash.
• Spiritual/Urgent: Recurrent emphasis on feeling “missional,” on warnings and need for preparation/awakening.
• Unfiltered/Boldly Speculative: Asserts connections and draws patterns in ways both provocative and controversial.

Summary for the Uninitiated

Candace Owens uses this solo episode to peel back the layers of influence and potential corruption surrounding Turning Point USA and its founder, the late Charlie Kirk. Through weaving together insider tips, news reports, and personal anecdotes, she suggests that American governmental and conservative structures are deeply entangled with powerful French-American elite families (specifically the DuPonts), foreign money, and possible cover-ups relating to Charlie’s death.

She calls out top Turning Point figures, divulges the details of a secret, possibly game-changing donation kept at the highest levels, and reflects on the cost of truth-telling in an era of hidden betrayals. Throughout, Candace grapples openly with her own grief and sense of mission in the wake of losing a friend, outlining a worldview in which spiritual warfare, international intrigue, and the fight for American integrity are inseparable realities.

“You can call me crazy, you can call me evil... Because let me tell you, it isn’t going to be nearly as warm as you are going to be when you burn in hell for an eternity.”
— Candace (1:19:00)