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All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. I can tell you right at the top that Nick Shirley got back to me. I was super grateful. We'll discuss that. It's so great when people are normal and just respond and then you know the truth and then you can share it. We also have some more issues, however, with the infamous tarmac hug. This is the tarmac hug from hell, because it turns out that Frank Turek's memory makes that hug impossible. Impossible according to the timeline that they have presented. Unless Andrew Colvett, as I have been claiming, was on Charlie Kirk's plane. Otherwise, we again find ourselves in the familiar predicament of somebody at Turning Point. USA is lying. Pick a liar. Pick a liar. It's. It's a journey, ladies and gentlemen, I will also tell you that I spoke with someone from Hopkinson Aircraft. Remember that unmarked building we discussed yesterday where Erica was allegedly seen as. Got to tell you, right off the bat, the conversation was exceedingly weird. I felt uncomfortable. And also, we've got to get to Cash Patel's girlfriend. She's speaking again. Never good when she's speaking. Right? And this time, she has concocted a fantastical theory which proves that the reason people think that she's a honeypot is because of Vladimir Putin and Putin's philosopher and the Catholic Church and Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson all working together in a foreign operation. I don't know what to say, guys. Welcome back to Candace. All right, you guys. Nick Shirley, top of show. He. He got back to me. And like I said, I am grateful, but the issue is that I actually made a mistake yesterday. My. The signal. So many timelines got mixed in my mind, and for some reason, I thought that the flight from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale on the Y Refi plane was flying while Andrew was hosting the Charlie Kirk show, which would mean, obviously, that if he was live on the Charlie Kirk show, he could not have been on the plane. But I was Wrong. It was not flying at that time. The Charlie Kirk show was hosted in its entirety before that plane took off from from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale at 12:28 Mountain Time. So this plane actually left Santa Barbara just five minutes after Charlie Kirk was shot. And then it went to Scottsdale. And so Nick Shirley was very kind and gave me the details. And it's like, oh, no, that I did actually do that live. And here's everything in my communications about it. And then I realized, oh, my gosh, I was completely confused. I was looking at the plane while it was flying to Santa Barbara. My theory is that it picked up Andrew Colvette. That was its dead leg from Provo. I can also tell you that we have since been able to confirm that that Y Refi plane is in fact equipped with WI fi. Again, we are calling it the Y Refi plane only because Erica told me that that's who was aboard the jets, because it first goes from Scottsdale to Provo, and she alleges, and I don't believe her, that that was carrying Lane Schonberger, the CEO of Y Refi. And then it does what I presume is a dead leg to Scottsdale. That's the one that I got mixed up on. No one was actually on that plane while the Charlie Kirk show was live. And then it goes from Scottsdale, I mean, from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale. So Andrew would, of course, have been able to message while he was aboard that particular jet. Accordingly, there's. There's been no change. But thank you to Nick Shirley for immediately getting back to me and confirming that that was an authentically live show that took place within the 9 and 10 o' clock AM Pacific block. So here is our calendar again of the ongoings on that day. So you can see when Andrew is not available and when that Y Refi plane is flying. You can see how I got mixed up. And I was just wrong. It happens. Moving on, a very interesting find from my producer, Mr. Frank Turek. I have told you this man, Frank Turek, I. He. He is the only one that I feel like did not at all quiver. He has been just consistent. He acted the right way when the shots rang out. You know, he ducked. Yeah, he got a little angry afterward and said I was the devil. She's the devil. Don't listen to Ken Stowens. But he, you know, he was tight on the alibis, the timelines. He presented information in just the right way. We have not been able to catch Frank Turek in any lies. Right. Frank Turek hasn't made any mistakes is what I'm saying. Well, something that is interesting, though, is he did do a lot of media. He did a lot of the media rounds in the days following the assassination. He said a lot. He said a lot on his own podcast. I want to remind you that Frank Turek himself is a military guy. Okay? He is a former Navy officer. He also has sons in the military, I think, in the Air Force and the Navy. Don't quote me on that. It's one or the other. And I mention that only because we military. We all know that military men tend to be extraordinarily precise when it comes to timelines to time in general, they are reliable when it comes to keeping track of time. It comes with their general business. It's a stereotype that holds true due to their training. Okay? That's why they even have their own time. Military time. Right. So it makes it interesting that you're about to hear, Frank, approximately what the exact or ish time was that Erica Kirk arrived at the hospital. Take a listen to what he had to say. And then when Erica got there, she spent a lot of time talking to the. She probably got there, I don't know, somewhere around 4pm Maybe. And she spent a lot of time, as you could imagine, talking to the surgeon and talking to the hospital staff and seeing Charlie. Oh, oh, 4:00pm Ladies and gentlemen, we have a problem. We have a problem. Houston, the plane in which Erica told me that Andrew was aboard that day did not land until about 4:40pm okay? So if indeed Erica was available to console Andrew and to meet Andrew on the Runway when he landed, there is no way in hell she would have been at the hospital even before 5pm because even with absolutely zero traffic at all, it takes 20 minutes. If you were just flying from point A to point B, it would take you 20 minutes to get from the Pro Provo airport to Timpanogos Hospital. Okay? Now, by the time you account for the landing, the taxiing, deplaning, deboarding, the tarmac breakdown, the hysterics, the cry, then moving into your cars and then driving from the airport amidst a manhunt for a killer, I want to remind you when. When they get there, there's a manhunt going on. They don't know where the killer is. Don't forget that he's on the loose. Got the SWAT teams, you got bomb dogs, you got local police forces. The feds are crawling all over. I would say you are looking at. Even if you have a police escort 5:15pm the earliest that they would have arrived at the hospital. Okay. Which, yeah, that's a problem. Okay. Frank Turek, I will say this, did not get that wrong. And so he didn't get it wrong. I don't, I don't feel like Frank Turek said she got to the hospital around 4pm and he really meant 5:15pm that's just. That did not happen because he's a military man. Okay. That he's not incorrect by over an hour. I don't accept that. I don't believe that. Not one bit. I reject the premise and you should too. Frank is telling the truth. And I'm going to also add here. So is Andrew Colvett. Andrew Colvett did not make the story up to me on the phone. He didn't. Okay, vibe check. I was not being lied to. Andrew told me the truth. It was too detailed. Okay. It's very difficult outside of being like a like high intellectual psychopath to be able to just go into very precise details about how you were feeling on the plane, how it was pent up, how the emotions were, and then when you saw the first person when the doors open because you had no one to talk to, when you, Erica and you, quote, unquote, boohoo, cried. Andrew did not make that up. That was real, okay? He and I were having a real moment when he described that he and Erica hugged on the tarmac. This hug will never go away. Never go away. So how do we make these two points which I believe are true? I think Frank Turk is telling the truth. Erica arrived at 4pm is at the hospital and Andrew Colbet told the truth, that he hugged her and she was there to greet him. How do we make both of these points true aboard our available private planes that came in on that day? Well, I have an idea. It's been my idea all week. Welcome to the Candice Show. We just have to assume that my memory was correct, that Erica therefore flew in earlier than Andrew aboard a plane. I cannot confirm which plane that is yet, but I will. I'll find out. I'm going to find out. Erica and Andrew flew aboard Charlie's plane because that would mean Andrew landed the plane. Andrew landed on that plane at 3:31pm Utah time. That's about just enough time for everybody to crowd around at the airport, have a little cry, and then you're going to arrive. You got 20 minutes. Police escort. I'm assuming there's a police escort at around 4pm at the airport, which is at the hospital, which is 20 minutes away. Okay. That would mean, again, this is crucial, that Erica was on an earlier flight. The question that we now face is which one? Okay. There are too many inconsistencies in the story. The tarmac hug happened. Just accept it as a fact. Andrew was not lying to me. And also, by the way, I will say this.
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Every time we have been confronted with this predicament, many times of Andrew tells a story and Erica tells a story, we are able to determine that Andrew is the one telling the truth. We've been faced with this many times throughout this investigation. The Hampton Summit, Andrew was telling the truth. Actually, in the end, they tried to cover it up. Oh, people. All these statements going out BB call, blah, blah, blah. Andrew, in the end was telling the truth about the hug. Tarmac hug. When Andrew dropped that thing about the 3006 and she pretended he went rope. Nope. I told you, Erica was on the phone that day. She was directing Andrew to do those things. She allows Andrew to look like a fool and like he's a liar. But in reality, it's Erica that's lying. If so, if we're just to go with the pattern that has emerged here as we've been investigating this. Andrew's telling the truth. Andrew landed. Frank Turek is telling the truth. And they got to that hospital because he was on. Andrew was on Charlie Kirk's plane. That's what I'm putting out there. Now, the good news is that we can now fill in some more particular details about what happened on September 10, beginning with what happened in Arizona at the TPUSA offices. And this time it is thanks to Elizabeth Kravchuk McCoy. That's her main name. Kravchuk McCoy. Our Ukrainian. Yeah. A lot going on with her, her family, her background. I don't like it at all. I will say that don't like her. Elizabeth. What we can confirm was she was certainly at Turning Point USA's offices when the shot rang out. It was 12:23pm Mountain Standard Time. The shot ring out. She, as we now know, even though this was something they all kind of hid, nobody knows why she was actually the first person that was called. So much for Frank saying that Charlie trained him. Anything happens, call, call Erica, call Erica, call Erica. First thing, walk away. That's why he walked away. Then we find out like he called his wife. So he didn't follow the training, the militant training to walk away from me, let anything happen to me. Just make sure she gets this phone call. Okay, well then we find out. Yeah, here are the call box. It was, it was Elizabeth. So the amazing Mikey McCoy, her husband, who I should mention she was set up with. It was an arranged marriage, if Charlie is to be believed. He said that in their speech. In his speech at their wedding. He rang her first and then they conferenced in Erica thereafter. Elizabeth, after she gets that call, sprints into the office of Frank, who is the lawyer at Turning Point usa and not Frank Turek, not to be confused with Frank Turek, it's Turning Point's lawyer, where she discovers Justin Strife who was in the office at that time and alerts them to what has happened. Frank and Justin then run to the Turning Point action building. Not sure why, I don't know who was there, but that's what they did. I'll say allegedly here, but that's the story. Elizabeth then asks someone to drive her to the airport. And that registers to me as odd. I'm wondering why does Elizabeth, is she not licensed? Is she too upset to drive to the airport? What are our options here? I don't know the answer. I do know who drove her. Person who drove her is Lauren Tonic. Lauren tonight, kitsch. I should know how to say her name. She's a very long time employee of Turning Point USA. She's, I would call her one of the TPUSA OGs back when I was there. Lauren was there. She was, she was, you know, at that time helping with everything, to be honest. And she volunteered for the task to drive Elizabeth to the airport. I want to be clear if that is approximately 30 minutes away in Scottsdale. So like I said, that was immediately weird to me because then I thought, wait a second. But you know who's missing from this equation? Stacy Sheridan. Where is Stacy Sheridan is like the de facto mom to Erica. She's going to step in. It's the only person Erica needs to be around. She's going to be the one recording Charlie in the casket. She's going to be, you know, momager for everything. That's. Where was Stacey Sheridan? Was they shared at the office? No, say Sheridan was not at the office. Sheridan is missing. Actually Stacy Sheridan is Allegedly home in Scottsdale. I would like to now put out an APB for Stacy Sheridan on September 10th, because I can confirm she was not at the Turning Point USA office. And this is interesting because Stacy Sheridan lives with Erica and Charlie. The same apartment complex, not in the same apartment unit, but she just moved in ahead of this. She moved in after her husband passed. I think she initially was initially living in California, and she chose to move into the apartment that Erica and Charlie live. They really are family. Guys. It's weird. Mikey McCoy is there all the time. They're always all together. It's creepy. Let me just say this. You guys go home. Like, once you are done with work, please go home. Just all live in a little hippie commune together and see each other and eat. Like, go home. Have a life outside of work. Your job is not your family. Actually, it's just a job. If anything happens to you, if we have learned anything in this Charlie Kirk story, you'll be replaced, maybe even by your wife. Anyways, I'm now interested because that's a something that strikes me as like, oh, did anybody see stacy Sheridan on September 10th? It's another person we can look out for. What about Tyler Boyer? Because I do feel that Erica and Tyler flew together definitively. Was Tyler Boyer at the office on that day on September 10th? Did you see Tyler Boyer on September 10th at the office? If so, what time do you have a text from him saying he was at the office? If so, please email us. We want to hear from you. More tips@candaceowens.com this is an interesting person to be missing. Mama Stacy. She didn't need her family there. No, not her real family. Forget her friends, her family, everyone she grew up with. Remember, Erica grew up in Scottsdale. Everybody's right there. Right, Mom? Okay, Mom's a little sick. Dad, aunts, uncles, everybody. Doesn't everybody live here in Scottsdale? I think even I heard that Nicole Rothstein once upon a time lived in Scott. Where are all of you? Where's your family? Where's your high school friends? No, I. When I. My husband dies, I want to be with the chief fundraiser. She's my mom now. Okay. Okay, Erica, I don't believe that. I don't believe it at all. You're a very shady person. What happens next? According. This is Elizabeth McCoy's alleged narrative, is that she then receives a phone call. She's at the airport. She receives the phone call that Charlie did not make it. She alleges that, for whatever reason, she beats Erica to the airport which is remarkable to me, given how close Erica and Stacy live to the airport. How close? The alleged appointment that she says her. Her. Her mother had that day. She was with her mom. And I'm gonna debunk that in a future episode, probably tomorrow. Erica's very close. Where's Erica at this time? Why has nobody seen Erica or Stacy during all of this? A lot of action is happening, but Elizabeth tells people that she had to break the news to Erica that Charlie was gone. She's the one that told Erica when Erica gets to the airport and she's inside of this terminal, that or this fbo, that Charlie was gone. And Erica collapses and screams. Now, there's a lot wrong with that story. We don't need to nitpick. It's Turning Point usa, okay? You don't need to take anything they say as fact. It's just another Turning Point USA narrative. Of course, right off the bat, Erica told me that the doctor called her directly and informed her that Charlie was dead. And that seems much more appropriate to me. But like I said, there's no two stories that are the same at Turning Point usa. I should mention it's a point of interest that there was a lot of evidence that Mikey McCoy's assistant, who knew he needed one, a young woman who by all accounts, is very kind and very nice. But her name is Catherine Locastro. Uh, she was a part of the team that transported Erica to the airport on that day, and she also went out to Utah. People found that to be very weird. She's very young. Uh, what is unknown is when or how the priest showed up to the airport, but he was also in tow as well, as we told you guys yesterday. Now, according to Elizabeth's narrative, Mikey's assistant Catherine got sick on the plane. Just overwhelmed from the emotion. As soon as they landed, they raced to the hospital. Guess nobody waited for Andrew Colvett. Except they did. Andrew Colvett is to be believed where Mikey McCoy met them all outside. And Elizabeth was thereafter the one who went in with Erica to see Charlie's body for the first time. That's weird. That is weird. Weird. It's wrong, and it's weird. I'm sure there'll be some neocon to explain to that. It's not. It's just usually everybody's grieving differently. Sometimes you just want to grieve with people that you kind of just became friends with and that are, like, young. A lot younger than you. It's just. It's weird. Okay? Now, at some point, they sent Catherine, who, like I said, it sounds like she's quite innocent. She's well liked, I can say that. At least to grab something from the car. The car that Charlie bled out in. Bloodied car. Okay. That he was transported to the hospital in. And when she opened the vehicle and she saw the blood, she was apparently very traumatized, according to Elizabeth's narrative. Now, Elizabeth left the hospital and went to then gather the items for everyone to stay overnight since they did not pack any bags. This is where the aloe story comes in. Now, you will note that there is curiously no mention of Andrew Colbert in that narrative or the Feds, we were told by Frank Turek, were guarding the vehicle and had taped it off so nobody could get into it. So what could be so important in the vehicle that they needed to send this young Catherine to retrieve something? Charlie wasn't traveling with a bag. He had a private plane. If he had a bag, he would have left it in the plane. He wasn't planning on staying there that night. He didn't pack anything. Um, I've traveled him many times. What would. He had his phone and gum, water. I'm just leaving that as an open ended question. I have another update for you which is interesting. I was able to connect by just a very strange set of circumstances, a giant coincidence yesterday with someone who works at Hopkinson Aircraft. Okay, Remember we told you this yesterday. There's this weird unmarked building. It looks weird. And this is apparently where Erica was when she had this little collapse. Second collapse of the day episode. And I'll just say, foremost, they would like me to clarify that they are not a CIA front company. They do real business, okay? They do real business, not, say, a front company. I always, like, whenever I say a lot of stuff, I'm always interested in like, what they focus on. I'm just. I thought the website just looks a little weird, but they probably do do real business, okay? So just put that out of your mind, okay? That aside, it was weird. Very, very weird. Basically, it just so happens that after I go off air yesterday, I have a conversation with a friend in Scottsdale, friend of mine who I trust, and the person, I hang up the phone with them, and they're like, I have a dinner, I got to run. Dinner. It turns out that he was going to dinner with somebody who works for Hopkinson Aircraft. I can't even figure out how that happened. Like, the chances of it happening are slim to none. I woke up this morning, had text from him which was like, hey, first you mentioned on your show and Sends me a photo. You. You got to connect with him. He doesn't even know Erica. Yeah, he was there when she got the news that Charlie was dead. But, you know, or like, you know, saw her at the airport, whatever. But that was just, like, kind of a coincidence. I'm like, what a weird coincidence. But, like, you know, he's got a lot of good details, and you should call him. I'm like, okay, so I'm. I'm calling, thinking maybe there's a off chance that what we missed here was he just saw her out of the window. Maybe she got the news in a parking lot. Maybe she collapsed in two parking lots that day. One was at the airport. Good to have the confirmation that this person also told my other. This didn't know that we have his friend in common, that he saw Erica at the airport. Get on the phone, this guy thinking he's gonna be like, oh, yeah, I saw her at the airport. Because if you don't know her, who cares, right? That's where she's supposed to be. You would just be confirming her alibi. Right? Clammed up, super weird. Effectively said, I will not confirm or deny. That's to sum it all up. It was like, all. I'm like, okay, like, what do you mean? Well, confirm or deny? Like, did you see her? Did you not see her? Did you. Like, what do we say? No, I don't know. I'm like, okay, did you tell people that you saw her? But I could either confirm or deny. I don't talk about things. And it just made me feel really uncomfortable. Again, there would be nothing wrong with seeing Erica where she's supposed to be. Not something you have to be clammed up about. You're just like, yeah, that's where she's supposed to be, right? Yes, sir. Didn't have a conversation, but just happened to see her. And then I'm like, okay, so now you're saying, like, multiple people are lying here. And did you tell people this? And then it was like, I will neither confirm or not. Are you saying this person's a liar? No, I'm not saying that person's a lie. Are you saying that I have this wrong? Well, I'm not saying you have this wrong. I just can either confirm or deny. It's like, I am not. I don't have you. Like, this isn't a court hearing. I'm just trying to figure out what happened on that day. So I wanted to share that this person is not in the CIA. It is not. Is not running a CIA front company. It's a totally legit business and you should buy aircraft for them. But also, this person cannot confirm or deny whether they saw Erica that day at their offices. And yeah, we will pause there and come back after a brief break. All right, you guys, thanks to you. Last year, preborn helped rescue over 80,000 babies. And today you can help save even more. 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Again, that's 800-795-1210 or visit american financing.net Owens Again, that's American Financing. Dotnet/owens. So look, Zionists are down real bad right now, okay? It is just not a good time to buy stock in Zionism. And everybody is just seeing things clearly. Some people for the first time. And I think there has been sort of a proliferation of this, especially in the wake of Charlie's assassination where we were just fed so much objective BS that it was, it was kind of hard to even focus. You're just going, are they really going to just pull. Try to pull this off? They're just going to tell us that there's a bullet that they can't match to the weapon or bullet fragment they can't match to a weapon. They don't know why it didn't go through Charlie, Superman. Anyway, then they, they're deeply upset that Joe Rogan, as I told you, similarly has weighed into this. And I missed this part where he specifically spoke about the Superman neck theory. 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The Kirk thing's weird because now there's video footage from behind. Is that right? Yeah, it. I mean, the round that he was supposedly shot with was a 30 odd six, which is a big round. That's a round that you kill a moose with. Huh. And it doesn't even have an exit wound. Right. It don't make no sense. It makes zero sense. Well, you hear about this Joe Kent. Yeah. Yeah. They told him not to research or investigate. Yes. So what's up with that? He said that they were told to stop their investigation. Yeah. And that they were going to handle it and he just resigned. And meanwhile, have they handled it? Like we haven't seen that guy, the guy who loves furries, who supposedly killed Charlie Kirk? Tyler Robinson. Yeah, yeah. We haven't seen him talk. No, he hasn't said he did it. He hasn't said he didn't do it. There's no known like independent video of him talking about it. Yeah. And then there was footage of him like at a yogurt shop way across town, like 20 minutes later. The whole thing is like super sus.
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It just is objectively super sus. And apparently now they're at the, the phase where they're angry at people for noticing. And the craziest thing that you will read today is what I, I actually am just going to see this as Cash Patel's revenge. I think when Cash Patel went in to the FBI, there was kind of this ideal. He was gonna, you know, right the wrongs and make sure that he took down the deep state. And then he just fumbled every plausible ball. Right. I mean, you had Pam Bondi and him. The Epstein files. First is the first thing that happened, obviously would be the biggest thing with Trump saying what Epstein files. Are we still talking about the Epstein files? And then the Charlie Kirk assassination? We're going, wait, Charlie Kirk literally helped all of you guys get into power? Are you really letting it go down like this? Like this? This is. We are looking at the deep state. And I think he is now seeking his revenge on people who he feels have thus far are, are I guess, guilty of ruining his reputation as professional. And he's doing it via his girlfriend. Okay. The young woman that he once referred to in a real tweet as a country music sensation. Most embarrassing thing that's ever happened. Like, should have immediately had to resign. If this was like Russia, he would have just disappeared, I think in general. And yeah, he was just to give you an update, he was flying this girl on, flying to see her on the FBI plane, going to see her in Tennessee. He has also sent a police force to protect her. Like, where I think, are we paying for that? Is this like our tax dollars are going to protect his country music singing young thing? She's definitely got a government security detail and her name is Alexis Wilkins, in case you're not familiar with her. And people have been suspecting that she's a honeypot and that he's a non serious human being. Especially like I said, given the Charlie investigation. Well, Alexis was deeply upset by the honeypot allegations, so much so that she began suing content creators, claiming that it harmed her professionally. Professionally, she's like sings the opening at Turning Point USA events. Like that's what she does. I don't see how that could have harmed her professionally. You should go listen to her music. We can't play it here because we'll get hit. That's what happened last time. But she's not that talented is what I would say. And that's putting it mildly. She's definitely not what I would refer to as a sensation. That's not all she's done. So apparently for them to exact. Maybe they're exacting their revenge together for the last few months, she has. She's claiming that she began building a program or a data set to determine how anyone could think that she's a honeypot. Now, the obvious answer is because they have ice, right? They suspect because they have ice. Anybody would say this if they saw these two together. It's somewhat earlier said, you know, if I just literally saw them in a restaurant, I'd be like, that man must have money. Right? But no, it's never common sense. It's never obvious. It's Got to be something way deeper. And she has come up with the idea that Russia was behind the attacks on her. And she presented this theory in a 13 part thread explaining how she realized that Russia was behind a foreign influence campaign that controls me and Tucker Carlson and Joe Kent and General Michael Flynn, and they are doing it through the Catholic Church, even though Russia is an Eastern Orthodox society. Apparently Vladimir Putin, because he really wanted to go after this country music sensation with the purpose of taking down Cash Patel and Maga, he decided to repair the schism. I, I'm just gonna let you see her thread. And I can't go, I can't read the whole thing because it's, it's dizzying, it's hard to follow. But she's, it's. It's 13 parts and you're gonna see. She starts to refer to tweets as chapters. And I'm really sad that we're at this point in America where a tweet can be considered a chapter. I'll go back. You can scroll back up. She says a foreign linked influence network has been running coordinated operations against the Trump administration for 22 months. I know it's real because they ran one against me. I was targeted in something that I knew was far from organic. The level of media is isolating, unwanted and unwarranted. There was nobody to help. I want you to keep in mind, there's nobody to help. She's literally dating the FBI director and has a government security force following her. There's nobody to help. Nobody to jump in and say this is a false op and help me. Well, I don't believe in problems without solutions. So I spent the last few months learning to build programs to utilize publicly available information to prove that this is way bigger than me. This is about creating cast in the Republican Party. So then she goes through and she kind of, you can see, she then says, it recaps, I was falsely labeled a Mossad spy. And then she says she noticed that people started retweeting it. There were 15 pairs that retweeted in 10 seconds of each other. So then that tweet, she's just kind of generally learning how Twitter works. And she thinks she has stumbled upon something. That's how Twitter works. There are accounts and you tweet something. If they agree, they retweet it. So that's. Jack Dorsey could have probably explained this to her in less time than the months that it took her to come up with this theory. Then she says, the network, the network has a trail. Catholics for Catholics lists General Michael Flynn as their senior advisor on their own website. Flynn is the anchor of a digital infrastructure that has been repeatedly activated at every major Republican fracture point. No, she's just not going to approve that. But I guess she just picked on the Catholics for Catholics, a very young organization. General Michael Flynn spoke there. By the way, that's the first time that I've ever spoken to General Michael Flynn that I remember. Maybe I met him at a random event a long time ago, but my memory, like, it would be years ago if I met him previously. And I don't think I have, but it's possible because it's Turning Point usa. So she's now putting this at the event that I spoke to a couple of weeks ago. It made her go, aha, it's the Catholics. Let's keep going here. Then she gives us chapter one. And by Chapter one, she means just one tweet. Chapter one, no. So, yeah, this is one tweet. This is not a chapter. Okay? We can't know. Not even a first grader would call this a chapter. Then she explains how before the Butler assassination. And then chapter two, which is just a tweet again, she says a coordinated narrative falsely identifies FBI director's girlfriend. So it's as a Mossad honeypot. She's somehow connected. I don't know how this jumps from the Catholics to there. You have to read it. It's too stupid for me to understand. Then she goes, the amplifications that were documented. She found out that Russia Today retweeted it. Ah, so a news publication in Russia retweeted it, and that's how she then realized that, well, then there's got to be an international conspiracy. Obviously, if Russia ever covers news that's happening in America, it's because Vladimir Putin is behind the thing that's happening in America. It makes perfect sense if you suspend rational thinking. Okay, Then she jumps in and she explains, chapter. I'm in Chapter three, it looks like to be four sentences. Charlie Kirk's assassination. Within hours, Candace publicly attributes the killing to Israel and targets Kirk's widow by name. That's just made up. That's just a lot. Chapter three is just a lie. I was not naming Erica. I said nice things about Erica, about her speech. Didn't start covering Erica until Erica lied to my face in December. But that doesn't matter. This is Cash Patel's girlfriend. The facts. She can just put whatever fact she wants there. And so she's now correlating, oh, you know, my hubby I did go after Cash right away. So I went after her boy. Boy. And that's what she's upset about. And so she's woven that in, I think, somehow. And then chapter four, she talks about Joe Kent resigning, which just happened, and then Catholics for Catholics, he was at the event. And yeah, that's. That is literally only the, I think, second time I've ever even seen Jo Kent. I did not know Joe Kent at all prior to the assassination. His name became familiar to me because the news article which we covered, which said that he was standing up to Kash Patel. So. But she's now woven this all together because why would we all be at the same event? And once again, she shows that when he resigned, Russia Today covered it. So obviously Vladimir Putin is doing this. And she then shows that the data clearly demonstrates that the same people that are interested in the Butler assassination are the same people that are interested in Joe Kent's resignation, and they are the same people that are interested in Charlie, her assassination. By golly, guys, she has figured out that the MAGA voting bloc might be all interested in these topics. Yes, Alexis, that is called. You have properly identified a group of people that are interested in the same political themes. So if you're interested, if you were a Trump voter, you were interested in the assassination and figuring out who did that. If you're a Trump voter, you're going to be interested if he decides to go to war with Iran and Joe Kent resigns for that information. If you're a Trump voter, you're going to be interested in the Charlie Crook assassination. That's not a conspiracy. That's common sense. Anyway, she. I don't know what chapter we're on. You can keep scrolling through, but she showed the data that these, these same accounts were interested in these same topics, and then somehow said that, you know, General Flynn is, is running it. And so I just want to you to know that she spent, she spent months on this and then discovered that this must be intentional and it must be to inflict harm on maga. So I want to help her understand what is happening and what is actually inflicting harm on maga. The first thing is I, I think generally speaking, MAGA voters and Democrat voters care about children being raped. Okay, that, that seems like something they might care. I don't think that's inorganic. When people are upset that Trump says, are we still talking about the Epstein files? And then basically Thomas Massie has to fight him tooth and nail alongside some others to get the Epstein files, and then we Discover what's in the Epstein files that's going to harm his base because of what he. He did. Okay. The second thing that I think might be going on is that people think your boyfriend's ugly. Think they think. I think they think your boyfriend's ugly. I don't know how to say it to you. And so when they see you and they see him, they think this seems like a mismatch, unless maybe he's super duper rich or super duper powerful, and she's been sent as a honey pot, and I wasn't the one to put that out. So I'm not being sued by you, but I just want to help you connect that dot. And as the news goes, when in the midst of a international war like Iran, which would have implications, of course, all across the world, somebody resigns and says that this is an immoral war, people are going to cover that in different countries. Russia even might cover that. So I do just think that some people think your boyfriend's butt ugly. I think that's all that's happening. I don't think there's a conspiracy here, but I do invite you onto the show to take us through it. Take us through the data sets that you built, the models that you built, to bring us to this crucial understanding that it could be Vladimir Putin. She also meant as his philosopher, Alexander Dugin, and doesn't understand that people just have eyes and they don't believe what we're saying, what you. What Cash says about the Trolley investigation, and they don't believe what you say about your relationship. There's generally a rule if you have to sue to prove that your relationship is real. Maybe not. I don't feel like I have to sue anybody when they say, george and I are not into a relationship. People have made those allegations before. I don't care. I don't. I don't know why you seem. You seem really upset about that. I also want to add, it didn't help that after she did this thread, like, the first person who retweeted her was Bibi Netanyahu's son, Yair. It's just like when they're calling you a honeypot. You just got to be like, y. Not now. That didn't help. Anyway, here's your boyfriend at a recent hockey game. This is another reason why people maybe don't take him seriously, but here he is.
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Maybe you think that's cool. I don't know, maybe you think it's cool, but I think they just think he's a tremendously unserious person, as are you. Anyway, the real person who's running the entire op is Tim Dillon. I always want to throw that in there, and I'd love to have you on the show. Important to note that just in general, Catholics have been under the attack. This is a real headline in the Daily Wire. Not that surprising. It's the Daily Wire, and it says the Catholic convert boom is real. But a trouble pattern is emerging. And so you can see what the trouble pattern is going to be that they in, you know, in that article is that they're not Zionists. That's. That's why there's always attacks on Catholics. It's because Catholic does not imply Zionism in the way that Southern Baptists might imply Zionism. And so elsewhere in the article, that's what he spells out. And it's just really interesting because there's that meme. Yeah. Unlike many branches of Christianity, this is in the article. The Catholic Church does not demand that the faithful be committed Zionists to receive God's blessing. Many prominent members of the church have spoken out about the plight of civilians in Gaza. Yeah, great. This makes us happy. We love that. We think that's great, that we are not manipulated by the idea that we're not going to get into heaven if we don't support BB Net and Yahoo. And I do want to say that what's really funny is there's that meme where they deny, deny, deny, something is happening. And then suddenly one day we're like, okay, this is happening, but let me tell you why it's a good thing or a bad thing. So this is them acknowledging, okay, it is happening, but let me tell you why it's a bad thing. And it made me laugh because last year, I remember I was, like, being gaslit about the growth of the Catholic Church, particularly by Ali Stuckey, who definitely has a thing about Catholics. And I just tweeted like, oh, this is great. The. The Catholic Church was in April of last year. Oh, it's so great. All around the world, the Catholic Church is growing and Protestant denominations are on the decline. And all should. Should ponder why that may be. And then Allie jumped in and was like, respectfully, no, that's not true. And then she puts in an article. I think you had that tweet, respectfully, it's not true. And then she sort of like, we just go back and forth and she's like, it's not true, it's not true, it's not happening. She also did like a super long post beyond that, I think in September of last year of why, like, this is not true. The popular narrative is that the Catholicism is booming, but this is not true. And now you fast forward to today and they're all like, okay, it's true, but let me tell you why it's a bad thing. And there are so many articles now that show how much the Catholic Church is growing. We can just show you a few of them here. But U.S. catholic population shows growth trends southward, which is true. Here is another article. That one's actually an old one, but this one from 2025, August. More Americans joining Catholic Church than leaving for the first time in decades. Here is one that was in the London Times. Catholics outnumber Anglicans 2 to 1among Gen Z churchgoers, which is amazing. And so it's. Yeah, there's a conversation happening. Is it. Is part of it being driven by people that are feeling disenfranchised by Zionism. Yeah. When they can see things that are obviously evil and you're telling them that it's not evil and that they're not going to be saved unless they turn the other way. Yeah. I'm sure that. That it kind of removes the scales from your eyes a little bit. But anyway, I think it's great for Catholics and we are fully under attack. There's no question about it. And that thread and having the FBI's girlfriend do that really shows you how there's no way that she can attach it to Catholics for Catholics, but she just does because she doesn't like that Joe Kent's Catholic and I'm Catholic or something. And Tucker, who she mentions, is Episcopalian, so he's just always catching strays. Or Tucker, he's always catching strays. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, do you owe back taxes? Or maybe you've not filed tax returns, or you've filed every year, but you still keep owing somehow. Maybe you retired and suddenly got hit with a tax bill that you didn't expect or pulled money from your 401k or IRA early, and now the IRS wants its share. However your tax issue started, the outcome is always the same. Your balance is not going down, penalties are growing and interest compounds. And many of you are about to owe again for this upcoming tax year with no plan in place. So stop what you're doing and call Tax Network USA. 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Send Candace. I got you. I will be there. If that happens. I will investigate. Also, Sarah writes they are investigating Joe Kent harder than they investigated Charlie's murder. Yeah, I am telling you, it is. It is. We are Watching Cash's revenge. Like, he's angry. It's so obvious that they're. He's angry. Andrew Colvett's angry. Erica is angry. I forgot to mention this. It came to me, actually, last night when I met up with Erica. She brought up Jokent. And I was so confused. I need to get my notes from when we sat down. But she was asking me about, if I recall correctly, the. This was a part of the conversation where we were discussing the hospital that day. And Andrew was the one who had called me and said that, like, you know, there was attacks against me or like there was, you know, threats against me and Tucker Carlson. And for some reason, Erica thought that that was Jo Kent. And she kept asking about Jo Kent. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. Like, I genuinely was telling people. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know why you're bringing up Jokent. And she was like, well, was he your source at the hospital? And I said, no, Andrew Colbett was. And then she said, oh, because there's some guy. And she mentioned Jo Kent. So Jo Kent has been on her mind for a long time. And I don't know why that is. I don't know why she got to Joe Kent. And I didn't push too hard on that. I was like, no, I didn't. Obviously, when all this happened, I didn't know who Jo Kent was. And I know that him and Cash or clashing or whatever it is, but she mentioned Joe Kent to me and she thought that he was my source at the hospital and it wasn't. It was Andrew Colvett. Yeah. Anyways, just sharing that random fact that came into my head and I forgot the name that she said that she thought was giving Joe information and she thought somebody who I'd never heard of was giving Joe information and that Joe was giving me that information. And I just told her, no, I don't know what you're talking about. Which is true. More comments from today's episode. Actually, I also remind you guys, we have new merch. That's exciting. There is new merch. It is great merch. Check this out. On the website we have public enemy number one. That is me. Probably should have put Tucker's face there too, if we're being honest. Also, you can buy the Mossad is listening crew neck. So just say that Israel is our greatest ally. Click into that sky. It's great, right? Please just say Israel is our greatest Ally, because the Mossad is listening and we want you to be okay. And we have also our not dying for Israel shirts. Patriotic shirt. Just not dying for Israel. I would get that. I'm not dying for Israel. There we go. Also remind you that we now have the clips channel that is up on YouTube and we have a link in the description. If you prefer shorter clips of the show because you're running out of time, that works as well. Okay. Comments from today's episode 7 Sheets writes, I have so much respect for Charlie being so vocal in his stance against what would be a disastrous war. He has been completely vindicated, sadly. I hope true fans of his will be as vocal and principled. God bless that kind and thoughtful man. He was so right. I mean, seeing the clips of him saying how it would play out, how they always think it's going to be a day is exactly what they said. Oh, they're done. Iran's done. And now Trump's like, negotiating with Iran. Iran is dropping some fire propaganda, by the way. They're like, they're dropping some pretty cool propaganda. It's definitely a lot better than the White Houses, which feels like it's just Boomer slop. Natty Nicole writes. Wait, I thought Elizabeth patched in Erica when she was on the phone with Mikey, but then Elizabeth also told Erica at the airport. Yeah, two different things you're. I think you're confused about. The first thing is just the initial phone call that Charlie had been shot. And that took place obviously when she was at the office. Apparently she screamed and then she went and she found us in strife. The later phone call that she told people was when they found out that Charlie didn't make it. Uh, and I don't, I don't believe that narrative at all. But that's. That would have happened later. The Nicole writes, I sent the last few months learning to build programs to build my conspiracies. Tell me you are a honeypot without telling me you're a honeypot.
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Nicole, you're gonna get sued. She's suing. Nicole, you better watch it. She's coming for you. The FBI's are coming for you, Nicole. Heidi Gumbert writes, my cat died on Monday. I've already grieved longer than Erica Kirk. Genuinely, when my cat died, it took me years. I just now feel ready to have a new cat. I just didn't want to, like, replace the cat. Just felt weird. But I feel like now it's been five years. So I do want a cat and I, I don't mean to trigger Alexis Wilkins, but I particularly want a Russian blue cat. So add it to the data sets. They're. They're very pretty. I love the Russian blue cats. Bonnie Miriam writes, pretty rich. Wilkins is implicating General Flynn since he was exactly who brought Kash Patel into the Patriot movement through the Awaken America tours with Clay Clark. Yeah, I don't know how that relationship soured. That was weird. I don't really follow. It seems like Cash tells issues a lot of people, but clearly General Michael Flynn is on his list. And it's funny because then later on she says that the purpose of this is, like, to not get people to sign up for the military. And I'm like, wait, General Michael Flynn is working to get people not signed to not sign up for the military? Like, it literally just makes no sense. Everybody hates you guys because of what you're doing. Okay? That's always the easier the outcomes Razor. It's because of what Trump is doing and what he's not doing. It's because of what Cash is doing and what he's not doing. And also, like I said, I do think that people think your boyfriend's ugly. I don't think that that's my fault or anybody else's fault. I didn't say it. I'm just saying that that's where the honey pot rumors are coming from. It's not that deep. It's just people with eyes think that something is not organic in that relationship. And certainly suing is not helping people believe that your relationship is real, because that's not what you do if your relationship is real. Just like you don't sue someone to prove that you're a woman. Okay. Like, it's just not a thing that you actually need to do if you're actually a woman. Anyway, I think I read all of the comments. Oh, one more person I missed. Love of Light. Love Light Rice. Chapter one. I've been watching. I've been watching your show since the beginning, and I absolutely adore you. Chapter two. It gets better and better every day. Chapter three. Go, Max. I want to buy that at Barnes and Noble, get that published. You find a book publisher and you put it in. I will read all of those chapters and I will sign that book for you. So thank you so much, lover of light. Thank you guys again. Apb. Stacy Sheridan on that day. I know I have contacts that are live in that same building. If you guys remember seeing Stacy Sheridan, that would be great. Still can't get an Erica sighting, but I do have a lot of issues with her Lori alibi that is very problematic. That alibi falling apart. It's falling apart. I will tell you more about that tomorrow.
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Episode Title: Who’s Lying? Frank Turek, Erika Kirk, Or Elizabeth McCoy?
Date: March 25, 2026
Host: Candace Owens
Theme:
Candace Owens delivers a deep-dive, solo investigation episode exploring the complex, conflicting timelines and shifting narratives surrounding the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. The focus is a forensic breakdown of alibis and stories from Turning Point USA figures including Frank Turek, Erika Kirk, Andrew Colvett, Elizabeth Kravchuk McCoy, and related individuals. Conspiracies, botched cover stories, and claims of international intrigue are all analyzed, with Candace’s acerbic, mocking tone on full display.
[00:30–06:30]
“I realized, oh my gosh, I was completely confused. I was looking at the plane while it was flying to Santa Barbara … Thank you to Nick Shirley for immediately getting back to me and confirming that that was an authentically live show.” — Candace, [03:10]
Key Point:
Candace continually reviews and reconstructs the timeline using flight records, call logs, and first-hand confirmations.
[06:31–11:24]
“When Erika got there, she probably got there, I don’t know, somewhere around 4 pm maybe …” — Frank Turek (via Candace), [08:00]
“Frank is telling the truth. And I'm going to also add here. So is Andrew Colvett. … The tarmac hug happened. Just accept it as a fact.” — Candace, [10:15]
Conclusion:
For both Frank and Andrew’s stories to be true, Candace hypothesizes that Erika arrived on a separate, earlier plane, possibly Charlie Kirk’s.
[11:27–19:00]
“If anything happens to you, if we have learned anything in this Charlie Kirk story, you’ll be replaced, maybe even by your wife.” — Candace, [15:30]
[19:01–25:00]
“Effectively said, I will not confirm or deny.” — Candace, [23:15]
“There would be nothing wrong with seeing Erika where she's supposed to be. Not something you have to be clammed up about.” — Candace, [23:42]
[27:00–29:15]
“The Kirk thing’s weird … the round that he was supposedly shot with was a 30 odd six … and it doesn’t even have an exit wound. Right. It don’t make no sense.” — Joe Rogan [28:01]
[29:16–42:12]
“A foreign-linked influence network has been running coordinated operations against the Trump administration for 22 months. I know it's real because they ran one against me.” — (Alexis Wilkins, as cited by Candace, [31:10]) “I'm in Chapter three, it looks like to be four sentences. … Chapter three is just a lie.” — Candace, [33:30]
“The MAGA voting bloc might be all interested in these topics. Yes, Alexis, that is called … common sense.” — [36:00]
[42:12–48:35]
“We’re not manipulated by the idea that we’re not going to get into heaven if we don’t support Bibi Netanyahu.” — Candace, [44:55]
[48:36–54:51]
“If I am killed, don’t send the cops. Send Candace. I got you. I will be there.” — Candace, quoting listener, [49:54] “There’s generally a rule: if you have to sue to prove your relationship is real, maybe not.” — Candace, [53:15]
Frank Turek (as played by Candace):
“When Erika got there, she probably got there, I don’t know, somewhere around 4 pm maybe ...” [08:00]
Candace Owens:
“Frank is telling the truth. And I'm going to also add here. So is Andrew Colvett. ... The tarmac hug happened. Just accept it as a fact.” [10:15]
“If anything happens to you ... you'll be replaced, maybe even by your wife.” [15:30]
“Effectively said, I will not confirm or deny.” [23:15]
“The MAGA voting bloc might be all interested in these topics. ... That’s ... common sense.” [36:00]
Joe Rogan:
“The Kirk thing’s weird … the round that he was supposedly shot with was a 30 odd six ... and it doesn’t even have an exit wound. Right. It don’t make no sense.” [28:01]
For listeners:
If you want an interconnected, skeptical, and often cutting examination of right-wing power struggles, narrative-building, and the fog around one of the most shocking events in contemporary U.S. conservative politics, this Candace solo episode delivers — with plenty of questions left open for tomorrow’s investigation.