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Capital Decanted
Hosted by John Bowman and Aaron Filbeck · EN
Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence.
Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.
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#1 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: The Great Convergence
Sep 2501:42:41Summary readyToday’s asset management business has quickly transformed into a race to build out a stable of thoroughbreds--investment strategies across a spectrum of conventional public equity and debt as well as offerings across the continuum of private capital--equity, credit, secondaries, real estate, infrastructure etc. What makes recent history particularly unique are the crossover deals from traditional managers with alternative managers. For several decades, traditional long only mutual fund shops and institutional firms stayed in their lane and idiosyncratic, complex private capital partnerships lived in a different world---there was a peaceful co-existence and mutual exclusivity. Those distinctions and parallel worlds have evaporated. We explore why with two of the most revered leaders in the industry and compare and contrast their different approaches to meeting this challenge.Introduction: (2:09)Halftime: (48:25)Guests: (54:36)Guests:Jean Hynes, CEO, Wellington ManagementJenny Johnson, CEO, Franklin Templeton
Summary#2 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: Private Capital for Wealth Clients
Sep 2301:51:13Summary readyHow does a legacy private capital partnership who has thrived solely in the institutional draw down LP ecosystem, assemble the apparatus to begin distributing those strategies to the individual investor? When client acquisition and conversations, investor sophistication, product design, culture, operational support etc. are all fundamentally different...where do they start in this overhaul? What challenges and pitfalls have they experienced along the way? What battle scars and advice can they share with others that are considering the same or in the early stages themselves. Join us as we draw a blueprint in a very applied and practical manner.Introduction: (2:05)Halftime: (55:18)Guests: (1:00:56)Guests:Shane Clifford, Managing Director–Partner and Head of Global Wealth, CarlyleDoug Krupa, Managing Director, Global Client Solutions, KKR
Summary#3 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: The Modern Asset Owner
Sep 1802:03:17Summary readyWhat do co-investments, secondaries, joint ventures, and NAV lending have in common? To some, they sound like complex investment vehicles - to us, they represent the cutting-edge tools reshaping how asset owners build portfolios. Gone are the days of relying solely on the binary choice between insourcing or outsourcing investment capabilities. Today’s institutional investors have a dynamic, customizable toolkit at their fingertips, empowering them to craft strategies that truly serve their stakeholders. Join industry leaders Scott Chan and Molly Murphy as they dive into this exciting evolution, unpack the innovative investment vehicles driving change, and discuss the challenges and opportunities in implementation.Introduction: (2:08)Halftime: (1:00:48)Guests: (1:07:17)Guests:Molly Murphy, Chief Investment Officer, OCERSScott Chan, CFA, Chief Investment Officer, CalSTRSEpisode Sources
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#4 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: A Crypto Golden Age?
Sep 1601:52:28Summary readyAfter many booms, busts, and shakeouts in crypto markets, the pump seems primed for broader adoption in institutional portfolios. Are we really doing this? How might a seemingly crypto-friendly Trump Administration fuel further adoption in the largest capital market in the world? In this episode, we use history as a guide, exploring the phases of crypto adoption and wrestling with whether we're truly in a new era or if the headlines are overhyping reality. Join us and our guests, Robbie Mitchnick of BlackRock and Greg Tusar of Coinbase, to explore further.Introduction: (2:03)Halftime: (1:03:01)Guests: (1:09:13)Guests:Greg Tusar, Head of Institutional Product, CoinbaseRobert Mitchnick, Head of Digital Assets, BlackRockEpisode Sources
Summary#5 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: Is China Investable?
Sep 1102:38:45Summary readyDespite being thousands of years old, China’s current economic and political system began to take shape only in the late 20th century, particularly following the economic reforms initiated in the late 1970s. Today, China represents one of the largest economies in the world, a breeding ground for innovation, and an exciting capital market increasingly open to foreigners. However, recent policy swings and geopolitical events have called many items into question - is China investable? Is it possible to develop a long-term view despite short-term geopolitical headwinds? And, most importantly, will the many years of progress toward economic and political pragmatism win the day? We're joined by China private capital investor pioneer, Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO of the Dietrich Foundation.Introduction: (2:09)Halftime: (1:22:17)Guest: (1:30:26)Guest:Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO, The Dietrich FoundationEpisode Sources
Summary#6 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: Asset Based Lending
Sep 901:44:39Summary readyAsset-based lending has come of age, but its evolution has made it challenging to put it in a homogeneous category or asset class, given its complexity and diversity of the underlying universe. From receivables and real estate to royalties and R&D, the range of collateral backing these loans raises questions about ABL's position within the broader private credit complex. In this episode, we attempt to define the history and parameters of ABL, including how loans are structured, as well as crucial due diligence and portfolio construction considerations. To help us explore these topics, we're joined by Greg Turk, Deputy CIO of Illinois Police Officers' Pension Investment Fund, and Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital Partners.Introduction: (2:08)Halftime: (58:18)Guest: (1:03:50)Guests:Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital PartnersGreg Turk, Deputy CIO, Head of Private Markets, Illinois Police Officers Pension Investment FundEpisode Sources
SummaryOn Location at the SALT Wyoming Blockchain Symposium: Special Summer Episode
Aug 2600:41:44Summary readyLive from the Wyoming Blockchain Symposium, we sat down with three of the earliest pioneers in the space to discuss the unprecedented political, regulatory and market momentum of crypto and blockchain. Franklin Templeton’s Jenny Johnson, SALT and Skybridge Capital’s Anthony Scaramucci, and Pantera Capital’s Dan Morehead joined us to explore the need for bipartisanship, the current use cases for the technology platform, and more. Guests: Jenny Johnson, CEO, Franklin TempletonAnthony Scaramucci, Founder and Managing Partner, Skybridge Capital; Founder and Chairman, SALTDan Morehead, Founder and Managing Partner, Pantera Capital
SummaryS2 | Episode 11: The Evolution of Private Equity - From Wizards to Artisans with Jacob Kotzubei
Jul 29, 202501:43:04Summary readyFinancial engineering or operational value add? As private equity's growth has evolved over several decades, the mechanics of deal structure, capital structure, and motivations have undergone changes across several eras. No longer just the barbarians at the gate anymore, many private equity firms have turned their attention from balance sheet gymnastics to delivering actual operating expertise for portfolio companies. In this episode of Capital Decanted, we answer important questions - what is driving this evolution? How are deal structures different today vs. in the late 1980s? And what is the playbook for a segment of the industry trying to deliver true value? To help us answer these questions, we are joined by Jacob Kotzubei, Co-President of Platinum Equity.Introduction: (0:48)Halftime: (52:00)Guest: (58:31)Guest: Jacob Kotzubei, Co-President, Platinum EquityEpisode Sources
SummaryS2 | Episode 10: Asset-Based Lending: An Asset Class or a Collection of Esoteric Collateral? with Greg Turk and Cedric Henley
Jun 24, 202501:43:19Summary readyAsset-based lending has come of age, but its evolution has made it challenging to put it in a homogeneous category or asset class, given its complexity and diversity of the underlying universe. From receivables and real estate to royalties and R&D, the range of collateral backing these loans raises questions about ABL's position within the broader private credit complex. In this episode, we attempt to define the history and parameters of ABL, including how loans are structured, as well as crucial due diligence and portfolio construction considerations. To help us explore these topics, we're joined by Greg Turk, Deputy CIO of Illinois Police Officers' Pension Investment Fund, and Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital Partners.Introduction: (0:48)Halftime: (57:12)Guest: (1:02:45)Guests:Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital PartnersGreg Turk, Deputy CIO, Head of Private Markets, Illinois Police Officers Pension Investment FundEpisode Sources
SummaryS2 | Episode 9: Is Investing in Modern China for the Intrepid or the Foolhardy with Ed Grefenstette
May 27, 202502:37:24Summary readyDespite being thousands of years old, China’s current economic and political system began to take shape only in the late 20th century, particularly following the economic reforms initiated in the late 1970s. Today, China represents one of the largest economies in the world, a breeding ground for innovation, and an exciting capital market increasingly open to foreigners. However, recent policy swings and geopolitical events have called many items into question - is China investable? Is it possible to develop a long-term view despite short-term geopolitical headwinds? And, most importantly, will the many years of progress toward economic and political pragmatism win the day? We're joined by China private capital investor pioneer, Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO of the Dietrich Foundation.Introduction: (0:48)Halftime: (1:20:43)Guest: (1:28:52)Guest:Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO, The Dietrich FoundationEpisode Sources
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