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Carne Cruda – ICE: la Gestapo de Trump toma las calles
Episode #1608 – January 26, 2026
Host: La República Independiente

Episode Overview

This explosive episode of Carne Cruda focuses on the escalation of anti-immigration operations in the United States under Donald Trump’s second administration. The centerpiece is the deployment of ICE as a “Gestapo” force in Minneapolis and other Democrat-controlled territories, resulting in deaths, community fear, a breakdown of rights, and the global resonance of this authoritarian turn. The episode intertwines on-the-ground reports, legal perspectives, academic insights into antifascism, and the voices of migrants, activists, and those resisting against intimidation.

Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. The Violence of ICE in Minnesota (00:02–09:23)

• Context & Incidents:

  • A chilling account of recent killings by masked ICE agents:
    • Reneg, a young mother, shot dead while trying to drive away from protest chaos (05:14–05:23).
    • Alex Pretty, a nurse, shot and killed during a protest (07:24).
  • The Trump administration and right-wing media swiftly justified the killings, labelling victims as “dangerous leftists” or “terrorists,” despite clear video evidence disproving these claims.

• Shift to Policy and Justification:

  • Official statements from the Trump administration, including Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of Homeland Security, consistently defend aggressive ICE tactics with misleading narratives.
  • Massive uptick in detentions: 6,000 Hispanic immigrants detained each month, mostly without prior criminal records—a 225% increase from previous years (08:49–09:01).
  • At least 30 non-citizens died in ICE custody last year, with several deaths' causes under suspicion (09:10).

Notable Quote:

• "No importa la verdad. Importa la realidad que ellos construyen. Importa la verdad alternativa, como dijo Trump, que tiene una red social a la que ha llamado Truth. Verdad. Otra mentira." (Narrator/Reporter, 00:38)

Memorable Moment:

• The use of children as bait in ICE raids—Liam Conejo, 5 years old, forced to lure his father into an arrest (06:43–07:12).

2. Media Manipulation & The Erosion of Reality (00:38–08:00)

• Discussion of Orwellian "doublethink," media complicity, and the rise of "alternative facts" via Trump's social media platform.
• Hostility toward journalists:
  • The White House spokeswoman, Caroline Levitt, and right-wing figures attack media, accusing them of being activists (06:12–06:28; 15:47–16:13).
• Reference to historical fascism to contextualize this current trend.

3. Life Under Siege: Minneapolis Residents and Migrant Defenders Respond (09:23–17:27)

• Live Report from Minneapolis:
  • Andrés Gil (ELDIARIO.es) describes widespread fear, people afraid to leave their homes even for basic needs (10:53).
  • Community organization and mutual aid ramp up as formal support evaporates.
  • Notably, both of the recent victims were U.S. citizens standing up for migrants, highlighting the indiscriminate reach of repression.

Notable Quote:

• "Aquí hay gente que no se atreve a salir a la calle ni para ir al médico... porque en cualquier momento te aparecen cinco, seis, siete personas que se bajan de un coche gris cualquiera y te llevan." (Andrés Gil, 10:53)

4. Academic Analysis: The Rise of Authoritarianism & Antifascism (12:08–15:54, 30:01–47:22)

• Marc Bray (Rutgers University, antifascism historian):
  • Forced into exile due to threats; discusses the labeling of protesters as terrorists, the Republican Party's internal fractures, and increasing state repression.
  • Comparative look at how "authoritarian democracy" might emerge, referencing Hungary and Turkey (15:33).
  • Clarifies: Current antifascist groups in the U.S. are small and decentralized; widespread resistance is increasingly coming from ordinary neighbors, not organized antifascists (30:15–30:55).
  • The state, not just the streets, is now the main vehicle for far-right violence (44:47–47:22).

Notable Quotes:

• "Trump quiere establecer un régimen autoritario. Quiere decir que la protesta es igual que el terrorismo." (Marc Bray, 12:52)
• "Este es algo popular y la mayoría son gente sin experiencia en el activismo. Son vecinos que quieren ayudar a su pueblo.” (Marc Bray, 30:55)

5. Legal and Humanitarian Crisis (20:17–25:02)

• Casandro Baztein (immigration lawyer, COPAL):
  • Legal limbo for detained migrants—even those with valid visas—due to judges claiming lack of jurisdiction, ICE delaying paperwork, and systematic denial of due process.
  • "Paradas Kavanaugh": Suspicion and detentions based merely on appearance or language are now legal, facilitating racial profiling (22:23).
  • Reports of detainees stuck without hearings due to systemic breakdown (23:37).

6. Community Self-Defense and Solidarity (25:17–30:01)

• Practical Resistance:
  • Neighborhoods improvise alerts with whistles, boycott stores aiding ICE, deliver groceries and medicine to those sheltering in place.
  • Evocative comparison: "Esto es mucho peor que la pandemia… Esto es un problema creado por el ser humano." (Mar Valdecantos, 26:59)
  • Personal stories of community members risking themselves to shield their neighbors.

7. The New Normal: Fear, Trauma, and Adaptation (37:03–40:19)

• Firsthand Accounts:
  • A Minneapolis nurse breaks down over the climate of terror affecting healthcare:
    • “No me siento segura en casa. No me siento segura en el trabajo.” (37:12)
    • Children uncertain each day if their parents will be home (38:03).
    • People resort to carrying passports constantly; even U.S. citizens feel compelled to change their appearance to avoid targeting (38:03).

8. The Nora Sandigo Foundation: Child Guardians on the Frontlines (31:47–36:02)

• Profile of Nora Sandigo:
  • Legal guardian for hundreds of children whose parents have been deported or live in fear.
  • Offers emotional and logistical support without state funding, relying on informal networks.
  • "Es apocalíptico, esto nunca habíamos vivido algo semejante." (Community Member, 33:58)
  • Sandigo reassures children: "Que lo único que puedo ofrecerles es que... van a encontrar una persona que va a estar allí para ellos, que les va a cuidar..." (35:24–35:42)

9. ICE and the “Gestapo de Trump”: Historical and Global Resonance (42:31–47:22)

• Parallels with History:

  • Explicit comparisons to early Nazi policies and fascist takeovers.
  • Host wonders if the revival of Black Panther-style defense is possible; Marc Bray sees real organizing power in grassroots and unions, not radical brands (43:36).

• The International Angle:

  • Europe is warned not to repeat U.S. errors; Californian and Canadian leaders openly criticize European complacency (47:24–48:48).
  • “Sí, si los sindicatos, partidos, movimientos sociales en Europa pueden sonar la alarma, ahora es mejor que en unos años.” (Marc Bray, 48:03)

10. Wealth, Media, and Power: Davos, Capitalism & Inequality (49:07–59:50)

• From ICE to Billionaires:
  • A shift to broader threats against democracy: wealth concentration at a record high, undermining political systems.
  • Oxfam experts and journalists dissect how billionaires use financial might to control opinion and policy globally (49:41–57:13).
  • “La desigualdad es una opción política y tenemos que buscar políticas que la reduzcan.” (Activist/Academic, 55:48)

11. Closing Reflections: Resistance and Solidarity (59:50–61:33)

• Echo of Bruce Springsteen’s “Promised Land” dedicated to Renégut—an anthem of resistance and longing for democratic values (“Creo en la tierra prometida…”).
• Host draws parallels to Spain: warning that authoritarian tactics against migrants and protest are not uniquely American.

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Narrator/Reporter, 00:38:
  "No importa la verdad. Importa la realidad que ellos construyen."
• Andrés Gil, 10:53:
  "Aquí hay gente que no se atreve a salir... porque en cualquier momento te aparecen... y te llevan."
• Marc Bray, 12:52:
  "Trump quiere establecer un régimen autoritario. Quiere decir que la protesta es igual que el terrorismo."
• Mar Valdecantos, 26:59:
  "Esto es mucho peor que la pandemia. Porque primero, la pandemia era algo creado por la naturaleza... Esto es un problema creado por el ser humano."
• Community Member, 33:58:
  "Esto es apocalíptico, esto nunca habíamos vivido algo semejante."
• Casandro Baztein, 22:23:
  "Paradas Kavanaugh, haciendo referencia a la justicia en la Corte Suprema, que básicamente abrió la puerta a que se acercan agentes de ICE basado en el elemento de cómo parece la persona o de qué idioma está hablando."
• Marc Bray, 30:55:
  "La mayoría son gente sin experiencia en el activismo. Son vecinos que quieren ayudar a su pueblo."
• Springsteen (quoted), 60:31:
  “Creo en la tierra prometida.”

Episode Tone & Style

Urgent, direct, combative and empathetic. The hosts and guests express outrage at abuses, sorrow for victims, and admiration for resistance. Language alternates between analytical, historicized perspectives and raw emotional testimony. Comparisons to historical fascism punctuate the narrative, with frequent calls for solidarity and resistance.

Conclusion

This episode delivers a searing, meticulously reported picture of where democracy, civil rights, and social cohesion stand in “Trump’s America.” It exposes the real-life consequences of delegitimizing truth, deploying unrestrained federal violence, and letting inequality and xenophobia rule—while giving space to the stories and strategies of those who resist, from local grassroots to international observers. The final call is clear: pay attention, organize, and resist—before this becomes the new normal everywhere.