NBA Trolling, a Knicks Fan's Pain, and the Chalamet Effect | with Colin Quinn

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan – Episode Summary

Episode: NBA Trolling, a Knicks Fan's Pain, and the Chalamet Effect | with Colin Quinn
Date: January 8, 2026
Host: Katie Nolan
Guest: Colin Quinn

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Overview

This episode of "Casuals" features comedian and lifelong New York sports sufferer, Colin Quinn. Katie and Colin have a wide-ranging, often hilarious conversation about growing up as a sports fan, changes in fandom, painful memories from their teams, trolling sports fans online, sports media, and even the way younger generations experience sports. The show keeps the spirit of casual, inclusive sports talk, blending comedy, social commentary, and deep sports nostalgia, with plenty of digressions—especially about what it means when everybody suddenly wants to be a Knicks fan.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sports Fandom, Rivalries, and Band Nostalgia

• Kansas State Band Controversy (04:15–08:00)
  • Listener email recounting a KSU band halftime mishap (Starship Enterprise and Jayhawk formation gone awry).
  • Katie and co-hosts laugh about accidental inappropriate band formations and the logic behind the school's $5,000 fine.
  • "I would think would be the fine for... mimicked the mascot of your rival at a game they weren't even playing in, getting a penis in its mouth. I would say 30k." — Katie (07:45)

2. NFL Coaching Drama & Conspiracy Theory

• John Harbaugh’s Firing (08:00–14:00)
  • Discussion of the Ravens firing Harbaugh, his legacy, and Baltimore's need for a “fresh start.”
  • Brady shares a tongue-in-cheek conspiracy: hidden, oddly-capitalized letters in Harbaugh’s goodbye letter spell out a secret message pointing to Russian map coordinates and a defunct gulag/Data Center.
  • Extended comic riff about secret AI operations and NFL coaching.
  • "I believe that this is where we will find the real John Harbaugh." — Brady (12:33)
  • "If anything happens to him, that is not something he has expressed interest in." — Katie (14:00)

3. Being a New York Sports Fan – Pain & Bitterness with Colin Quinn

Childhood Fandom & Anger (18:20–21:55)

• Colin reminisces about falling in love with sports and stats as a kid, getting a “humility” from knowing he wasn’t good enough to be a pro.
• “To know that I was washed up at 13 gave me a certain humility...” — Colin (21:22)

Rules Changes & Nostalgia (23:24–26:00)

• Complains about how “over-policing” in modern sports (e.g. defensive penalties in football, roughing the punter/kicker, traveling in basketball) makes watching less fun.
• Reminisces about the “brutal” style of play and lax officiating of his youth.

Mets, Knicks, and Hating Bandwagon Fans (29:09–33:09)

• Colin articulates his Mets (not Yankees) allegiance—and the skepticism Mets fans get from Yankees fans.
• On the Knicks: Quinn admits to resentment of new Knicks fandom: “It’s the Timothee Chalamet effect...I want to be the only one.” (67:10)
• Recalls Knicks games as a kid, when players and fans smoked inside: “Connie Hawkins...[was] smoking on the bench during the game.” (67:37)

4. Sports in Pop Culture – Sports Movies, MTV, and SNL (35:01–45:30)

• Quinn ranks Caddyshack, Slap Shot, North Dallas Forty, and others among top sports movies.
• Discussion of raw, honest sports books from the '70s (Ball Four, etc.).
• Reminiscing about early MTV, “Remote Control,” and being part of the initial wave of cable TV comedy.
• On being an early Internet “trolling” target during his SNL “Weekend Update” run and the psychological armor he had to build:
  • “I was one of the earliest people that had to get tough.” — Colin (44:58)

5. Trolling Sports Fans Online (47:01–49:21)

• Colin talks about his signature Twitter game of posting deliberately bad (but subtle) sports takes and loving the rage from serious fans.
• “You get one line and that's it. It’s impossible to sound sane on LinkedIn.” — Brady (80:48)

6. Generational Shifts: Media, Social Trends & “The Chalamet Effect”

• Katie and Colin discuss TikTok, the Chalamet-inspired influx of “new” Knicks fans, and fan tribalism.
• They lament how the internet now creates insecurities and how actors and comedians have to hustle differently in today's content economy.

7. Running the Sports Media Gantlet

• Colin respects Stephen A. Smith for changing TV sports debate: "His big mouth did change the game... you have to give credit where it’s due." (70:52)

8. Final Riffs: Gambling, Women’s Sports, and Owner Accountability

• Brief thoughts on Jake Paul’s boxing career, women’s sports, Caitlin Clark’s stardom, and how front office accountability is communicated (Colts owner’s viral statement).
• “I think this is good... [the owner] calls them out by name, holds them... but at the end of the day, it’s my job.” — Katie on Carly Ursay Gordon's press conference (86:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Humility and Sports Fandom:
  • “To know that I was washed up at 13 gave me a certain humility…” — Colin Quinn (21:22)
• On Knicks Bandwagoners:
  • “It’s the Timothée Chalamet effect... I want to be the only one.” — Colin (67:10)
• On Conspiracy Theories in Sports:
  • “I believe that this is where we will find the real John Harbaugh.” — Brady (12:36)
• On Trolling Fans:
  • “For me, it's fun. But it's because I'm just watching them get mad...” — Colin (47:44)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment/Topic | Timestamps (MM:SS) | |--|--| | KS Band Story & Fines | 04:15–08:00 | | John Harbaugh Firing & Conspiracy Theory | 08:00–14:00 | | Colin Quinn Introduction & Early Fandom | 18:20–21:55 | | Complaints about Rules, Sports Nostalgia | 23:24–26:00 | | Knicks/Mets/NYC Sports Pain | 29:09–33:09 | | Best Sports Movies, Raw Sports Books | 35:01–38:00 | | SNL, MTV, and Online Trolling | 41:06–45:30 | | Twitter Sports Trolling | 47:01–49:21 | | Knicks Bandwagon & “Chalamet Effect” | 67:10–67:30 | | Women's Sports / Caitlin Clark | 50:00–51:10 | | Colts Owner Statement | 86:35–87:15 |

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Additional Notes

• Show Tone: Breezy, self-effacing, often nostalgic, and punctuated by bursts of both sincere reflection and sharp humor.
• Format: Light on sports stats—heavy on sports feelings, culture, and the sometimes absurd experience of being a fan.
• Calls to Action: Listeners are encouraged to write in with tales of sports pain, weird stories, or questions, maintaining the "casual" and inclusive vibe.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of "Casuals" embodies the show’s mission: making sports fandom fun and accessible, with plenty of laughter, pop culture, and self-deprecating honesty. Colin Quinn’s blend of old-school fandom and comic sensibility sparks memorable takes on the agony of rooting for New York teams, the evolution of sports discourse, and the very nature of “casual” vs. obsessed sports fans. It’s a must-listen for anyone interested in why sports matter not for what’s on the scoreboard, but for what they do to your heart and sense of humor.

Transcript

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Similar age gap.

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Similar age gap.

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Is it?

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How. What's the age gap between Nikki Bella and Cooper?

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20 years.

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Holy.

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She's 42. He's 22.

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Holy. Also, didn't we ship him with somebody.

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With Sabrina Carpenter, which felt more age appropriate last year it made more sense.

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I keep shipping Sabrina Carpenter with everybody. I keep trying to get her. I just. She's so cute. She's so cute and so hot. She's so like, hot right now, you know? Wait, can we Please confirm Cooper DeJean? Is he already in the NFL or is he still in college football? He's still in the NFL and he's in the NFL.

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Okay.

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Yeah, yeah. No, no stress. No stress.

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He's one of the five easily confused small white guys on the Eagles to the point that there was an. The NFL posted a clip of somebody saying, hey, Coop on the field to Reed Blankenship last week. And Reed Blankenship said, no, I'm the other one.

[A]

What a great all time sports name. Read Blankenship. That's three objects in one name. Reed. Blanket Ship.

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Blanken.

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It's Blanken, unfortunately. I just wanted to let her know.

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Blanket Ship is so much better.

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Read Blanket Ship. It sounds like a wi fi password that gets given to you. Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that does not care what you know. We're just so happy that you're here. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. Joined today briefly here at the beginning by my casualties, we have Isabella, who's a sports newbie. Hello. Chris, our wonderful editor.

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Hi.

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And Brady.

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Nice.

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Hello.

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I like that.

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I thought you would. I was like. I actually think he would just like it if you said his name. Cool. I don't even think he needs a job title. I think he just needs the excitement and so. You got it. We're gonna talk real quick up here. We got some emails, or maybe one email, depending on time that we wanna read. And then we're getting to the point today because I'm very excited. I'm very excited. Colin Quinn is our guest today. An incredible comedian, somebody I learned how to do jokes on TV from. Not that he knows that. I just watched a lot of Weekend Update and took a lot of notes. So he's one of my favorite comics.

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He.

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He's incredible. We talk about everything. I couldn't possibly sum it up. It's just a fun, interesting conversation. Before we get to that. One thing we really don't talk about, though, is that John Harbaugh was fired by the Baltimore Ravens. So we're gonna read some emails. Or just maybe one, probably. I keep saying some, but I don't think we have time. And then we'll talk about Harbaugh and then we'll get to Colin Quinn. So let's start with emails. Chris, Are we gonna do Ross?

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Let's do Ross. Okay, I think that's a good idea.

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Okay.

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Ross emails in and says, hi, Katie. And the casualties. While on the topic of heated rivalries, a decade ago, my older sister was playing trombone in the KSU marching band in a home opener versus South Dakota.

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Hold on. Timeout. Was this written before I announced that I'm now a lifelong KSU fan?

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This was said after.

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But they didn't even. But they said on the topic of heated rivalries, they didn't even say it was. On the topic of Kansas State, which, by the way, my merch arrived and it's sick. And you'll see it soon. I'll Wear it probably next podcast. Sorry, Chris. Keep going.

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Thank you. The halftime show involved the Starship Enterprise blowing up the KU Jayhawk. However, due to learning it under crunch, the Starship Enterprise looked less like it was shooting the Jayhawk and more like it was inserting itself inside of the Jayhawk's mouth.

[A]

Oh, that was supposed to be a starship. I realized that didn't confirm what it was.

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K State had to pay a $5,000 fine, and band director Frank Tracks wasn't allowed to travel with the band to Lawrence for a few years. The game wasn't even against ku. Wait, again, it was at South Dakota.

[A]

Wait, that's crazy. I had not seen this and watched it, and that is. First thing I said was, whoever's commentating on it in the clip has to have inside information that was provided to them before that said, well, they're gonna do a new thing we've been working on, and it's the Starship Enterprise, and it's gonna attack this mascot of a school that's not even here. Because the. The. They said otherwise, as Isabella pointed out, you would not know just on the. Just on the eye test, that that's what they were going for and why.

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They did the side view of the Enterprise, which is not as recognizable. Very phallic, a lot of balls.

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Sure. And it's. And here's what I don't get. Why, when the. What the band is supposed to be doing, if you're really casual and you don't know what we're talking about, bands do these elaborate halftime shows where the formation that the band is in looks like something. And so this was supposed to look like the Kansas mascot, the Jayhawk, and a Starship Enterprise, as Brady mentioned, from the side. And it was going to blow it up. Now, what I don't understand is why, when that's the supposed choreography, why the Enterprise would take the path of entering the beak of the Jayhawk. What. In what world is that how you blow something up? There was no moment of explosion. There was no, like, clear, like, hey. And now the Jayhawk has disintegrated. It just entered its open map, and then they all just sort of dissipated into their next formation. Whose idea was this? Third question. $5,000. It's like, is funny because they weren't trying for it to look like it did. So you are partly like, you can't find them for that. And then you're like, but it looked so much like it that we do have to fine you. And so since it wasn't on Purpose. I guess we won't call it flagrant. So it won't be like 30,000. I would think would be the fine for. If you had. If you mimicked the mascot of your rival at a game they weren't even playing in, getting a penis in its mouth. I would say 30k. Do you think would make sense like 25.

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Sophie Cunningham fines, like in terms of like a band director's salary?

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There is. Yeah, true, true. It was him who was fine. I thought it was the. The school. No, it was the school.

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The school would have to pay for it, surely.

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I'm saying if they did it on purpose, I think it would have been at least 30k. I think we'd be having conversations about a death penalty. I don't think can. I don't think you're allowed to do that on a field on purpose. But they did it by accident. So that's a. We don't have time for the other emails, but they're good. So can you like put them somewhere that you'll remember to put them in front of me again the next time we do a podcast? Thank you. Thank you so much. All right, John Harbaugh, the Ravens obviously missed the playoffs. We talked about this last episode. There were conversations about whether or not I mean Tomlin and Harbaugh both. There have been murmurs all season about will either of these two coaches that you would never have thought would be fired be fired after the season. And we found out that John Harbaugh has been let go by the Baltimore Ravens. They missed the playoffs for the first time since 2021. Harbaugh is 63 years old. He ranks 12th for most wins by a head coach in NFL history with 193. Guided the Ravens to a Super bowl title in 2012. He's been the coach there for 18 seasons. He was the second longest active coach in the league behind Mike Tomlin because He's in his 19th season with the Steelers. A lot to be said here. Obviously with the all the open coaching positions, Harbaugh being available and one of the winningest coaches in NFL history, certainly for the Ravens, I believe he is their all time right best coach. He seems to. He'd probably shoot up the list of rankings of who available head coaches right now because this feels like a thing where it's like Baltimore just needed to move. They needed a change at something and maybe it's this. So obviously Harbaugh now becomes one of the more coveted assets in the. In the coaching search carousel or whatever. Also that Ravens job becomes an open, desirable gig because you've got a franchise quarterback, which is not a guarantee at a lot of teams that you could go to. So all interesting angles there. Let's skip those, though, and dive into what Brady spent time on last night, which is a conspiracy theory. Now, Brady, I have to ask, legally, before I just give you this platform to launch a conspiracy theory, is this a fun one? Not one that boils down to something actually scary and bad?

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I don't know.

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Great. Let's do it anyway.

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I will. Admittedly, one of the hallmarks of my career is I am very willing to waste a lot of time on a lot of things.

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Great.

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The Baltimore Ravens on their own account, last night released a statement from John Harbaugh. Now, this statement from John Harbaugh did not come from John Harbaugh's account. It came from the Baltimore Ravens, which is weird. Lengthy statement about how thankful he is for the organization that they took a chance on him and hoping that, like the values he instilled will stick with the players. And just being thankful for all of his time there. Within this statement, though, really gets you thinking. What's going on here? There are 22 words that for no apparent reason, begin with a capital letter, despite not being proper nouns or starting a sentence.

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What?

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Oh, 22 times. Such as when he says gratitude to the owner and organization who was willing to bring in a head coach who made his mark with special teams success. Special teams capitalized a difficult thing to do. And appreciation for all the moments. Appreciation capitalized. A legacy built on faith. Always fighting and always believing. Faith, fighting and believing. Capitalized.

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What are people doing?

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The first eight of these letters that are randomly capitalized spell the words staffbot, S, T, A, F, F, B, O, t. The next 14 are not an English sentence or English words. W, G, L, I, R, P, S, C, F, L, J, A, G, G. Now, what does staff bot mean? Is Jim Harbaugh implying that his team was being run by AI? Or is the AI that wrote this message crying out for help? Or is Jim John Harbaugh somehow, through this message, trying to give the location of something? Now, via cash sleuth, everything after.

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Sorry, via what?

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Cryptology software.

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Okay, and you have that W, G.

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L, I, R, P, S, C, F, L, J, A, G, G. Decodes to the map coordinates of 53.7106 degrees latitude and 121408 longitude.

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Of course. Obviously. Right.

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Which is in the Mogachinsky district in Eastern Russia. Now, this district is the former site of the KLIUVICHLAG prison labor camp previously used for the mining of gold and molybdenum.

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Okay.

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I believe that this is where we will find the real John Harbaugh.

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Molybdenum?

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Yes. It's the 37th most abundant element in the Earth's crust.

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What is it? Is it a gas?

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Kind of like graphite, but not graphite. I looked up all of these things.

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I know.

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That's why I'm asking the follow ups. Just to prove that you did the work.

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Not a rare earth element. Not really of any value. Very abundant.

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Okay. How have I never heard of it? How is molybdenum incredibly abundant and I've never met her.

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37Th most abundant. You may have heard of many of the other 36.

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Like.

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Anyway, just the Ravens posting Staff bot and the coordinates to a Russian gulag. Wind Horse Fingers. There's something going on here.

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Allegedly posting that. I don't know.

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They posted it. The post is still up. Sure don't think that we weren't going to find this.

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But they're not.

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You think?

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Thought we wouldn't look at the randomly capitalized words and get to the bottom of this. If. If the. If Wiggle Boog is the prison. And what do you think staff bot and that prison would combine to.

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I believe that this gulag has been repurposed as a data center. As a data center for the AI that is now running the Ravens operations.

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Oh, my God.

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And this is where we will find the real John Harbor.

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Okay. I see what you're saying. Okay. I think we need to start protecting Brady. Brady? Yeah, Brady. I think maybe take the next couple weeks off later. Take some pto, I think. Well, we can just give him the TO and you can hold off on the P. And then.

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I am of sound mind.

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That's. Yeah. If anything were to happen, anything happens to him, that is not something he has expressed interest in. So we'll just keep an eye on you and we'll keep an eye on this. Dan and I did see driving across the country, a lot of things being turned into data centers. So this would track. With our boots on the ground, eyes in the sky, Brady, we could blow this whole thing wide open. Say the name of that prison again. Say the name of that thing again.

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Oh, we're gonna wing this, Cleu Shavlag.

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Okay, well, you're not winging it. You've got. You did the work. He knows.

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I did the work to print it out. And I stopped short of looking up the actual pronunciation.

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Wow. That's a good look, we had it first. If it's right, we had it first. If not, you didn't hear that from us. You know, is John does, do they have Kompromat on John Harbaugh? These are all questions that we need to be asking and someone else will answer them. Pablo. And then you'll just insert Pablo here talking about it, lending credence to it when he gets to it, when he can. He's very, very busy. Certainly something we'll keep an eye on. Brady, thank you for bringing that to our attention. I think we could really blow the whole thing wide open. Let's go ahead and take a quick break so we can separate whatever that was from whatever's about to be coming up after the break, we'll have Colin Quinn in here. We're gonna talk all about his experience of being a sports fan, a New York sports fan, etc, etc. So Colin Quinn, one of the greatest living stand up comedians joins us when right after this break. Hey, are you starting the year with a wardrobe refresh? Good for you. Quince has you covered with luxe essentials that feel effortless and and look polished. They are perfect for layering, mixing and building a wardrobe that lasts. Their versatile styles say that 10 times fast make it easy to reach for them day after day. From soft Mongolian cashmere sweaters that feel like designer pieces but without the markup to 100% silk tops and skirts for easy dressing up to perfectly cut denim for everyday wear, their wardrobe essentials are crafted to last season after season. I wear my quint stuff year round. I've got a sweater, I think it's called a fisherman sweater that I love. You can layer underneath it. You can layer over it. You've got to refresh your wardrobe and you got to do it with Quint. Don't wait. Go to quint.comcasuals for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. Quint.comcasuals free shipping and 365 day returns quint.comcasuals everyone deserves to be connected.

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Thanks, Katie.

[A]

Is this a favor to Dan?

[B]

Well, we did have a great conversation that day.

[A]

We did.

[B]

I mean, you were really. You were funny. You were like, you know, you. You definitely got it good.

[A]

Hey, thanks. I paid him to say all that, you know, if you want to see what.

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No, I said it was just Dan. It wouldn't, you know.

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Yeah, true. Fair enough. Colin is at the Cellar this weekend, if you want to go see him. Colinfin.com for tickets. He's also going to be in Buffalo, Chicago, Terry, by the way, speaking of.

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Sports, I was in Buffalo when they had to decide between Josh Allen and the other Joshua. I can't remember his name.

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Rosen.

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Josh Rosen. Good. And I was there that weekend when they picked Josh Allen.

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Yeah.

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And that's all we talked about. The whole crowd was like, oh, Josh Allen.

[A]

How do you feel about Josh Allen?

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I think it was a mistake to pick him over Josh Rosen. I knew it was controversial.

[A]

Josh Rosen was very nice. Josh Rosen, somebody talked to him and was like, hey, he knows of your show and he likes you. So I was rooting for him and that didn't. I didn't pick the right team. I didn't pick the team.

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But I mean, yeah, Josh Allen's a beast. He's amazing.

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Yeah, he's amazing. He's got a tough. He's got. They've cleared a path for him in the playoffs this year, so it's kind of the year they're saying, he better get it done.

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Yeah. I was actually at the last Super Bowl. I was at. Was this. How old I am? 1991, Tampa. I happen to be in Tampa for the Giants Super Bowl. When the guy, remember, from Buffalo, missed that field goal. I mean, that was brutal.

[A]

That's brutal.

[B]

The guy, he. Probably. Nobody jokes about him like Bill Buckner, but that was a Bill Buckner moment.

[A]

That was very Bill Buckner. Did you. What? Were you there? Did you have fun? Do you like going to the super bowl in person?

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I don't. Well, we'll talk about sport. My. Well, let me turn my phone. Why the hell's it on? I don't. I don't care about sports. I only.

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No. A little.

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Well, but here's the thing, which is my theory. First of all, when I was a kid, I was a sports nerd. There used to be a magazine called. There used to be a newspaper called the Sporting News that came out once a week. And my mother got me a prescription, a subscription for it. And you would read all the. It was all the statistics. So any. If you wanted to be a nerd and read all. Everybody's batting average, everybody's football, and with the Sporting News, it was this big, long, crazy newspaper once a week, and you read all the statistics. And a lot of kids had it.

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Kids.

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Yeah, it was for kids.

[A]

Sounds like homework.

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It was like homework, but it was sports, and we loved it.

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Yeah.

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She'd be like, oh, you know, whatever. Whoever the players were then. So I knew everything about sports then. I knew it all.

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Yeah.

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I would have been calling into radio shows, but I really. It was all. I was a statistics guy. I don't know why. I've never been good at math or cared about that, but for some reason, the Sporting News really got. Was my sweet spot.

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Yeah.

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But as you know, as I said earlier, I have a lot to say. I have a lot prepared. And my number one thing I want to talk about is when I was a kid, I feel like most sports fans, the level you grew, your anger grows, the closer you got to playing professional ball.

[A]

Okay.

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I feel like a guy like me. To know that I was washed up at 13 gave me a certain humility where I can watch sports. But I know I don't get that mad because I'm like, look, I couldn't even come close.

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I tried it. I tried it, and it didn't.

[B]

These guys are in another. It's almost like watching aliens, right? So I'm like, I get it. So even when they mess up I go, I understand. I can. I hate them personally, but as far as. I never get that mad. Like, even a guy like Bill Buckner, I couldn't have done that. Yeah, I would. That would have been the third time that game that I let the ball go through my legs.

[A]

Yeah. They'd be used to it, that kicker. That would be what I do.

[B]

How about that kicker the other day? 67 yard. That guy's a beast.

[A]

Yeah, a beast. Oh, I thought you were talking about the Ravens kicker. Yeah, the field goal and then sent the Steelers into the playoffs.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

I feel so bad.

[B]

It's the worst. I feel bad for kickers, too, because as it is that the outcasts on the team, they get dressed separately. I think they must have a separate.

[A]

They have a whole separate wing.

[B]

Yeah. And then, you know, they're either from another country or they're just, like a half a nerd themselves.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, they get no clout. They go to the parties. They can't. You can't even see them because there's eight guys bigger than them around them. They're standing with a drink in their hands. Nobody's talking to them.

[A]

We had. Do you know Lisa Trager, the comedian?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We had her on, and she said that it's like a. Being a kicker is like being a salon receptionist. It's like, when you're good at your job, everything just runs smoothly. When you're bad, you're, like, the worst person.

[B]

That's very wise.

[A]

Yeah, it's very wise.

[B]

But. Yeah. So I feel like. I feel like sports, first of all. I'm sure I'm coming from a whole different era when I was really into sports, like, even football. Like, I'm one of those people that can't believe every time there's a call, defensive interference ruins the game. How could you have a call? A guy literally barely touches somebody. They're both running. He slows down for a second, puts his hand up, gets called, and you got 80, 50 yards. It should be like 12 yards.

[A]

The spot of the foul where you do it, they get to get the ball. Insane.

[B]

And I don't remember that existing when I was growing up. When I was growing up, defensive backs would, like, you know, just grab you, throw you on the ground. They're like, hey, the guy's trying to keep you from catching the ball.

[A]

What can you.

[B]

What can you. They were just.

[A]

He's doing his best.

[B]

Guys below the. It was so brutal. It was a brutal sport, I have to admit.

[A]

I mean, and some of that had to go.

[B]

I know some of it had to go.

[A]

People get very. Like it's the wussification of. But some of it did. I mean, the head to head stuff was.

[B]

The head to head stuff had to go. But nobody even knew.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And knees guys, like, by 35, guys couldn't walk their knees. All the offensive linemen and defensive linemen, especially offensive linemen, were destroyed by 35. But another overly police thing is roughing the punter.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're rushing in, you're telling this guy, block the punt, you touch his foot.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And suddenly you get the ball back.

[A]

Yeah. It feels like we're very focused on the punter and we're not focused on roughing. I don't think you can call it rough if my fingertips brush against your toes. I touched the kicker. But if we're roughing, that's not a problem.

[C]

Then.

[B]

Yeah, call it touching the kick.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Otherwise I'll take the guy out at the knees if I'm gonna.

[B]

So those are my. Yeah, good point.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And of course, basketball traveling. It's so insane. Yeah, they're talking about it right now. You know, they're talking about one and a half steps versus three step. Because it's three steps.

[A]

Can I be honest? I never notice. I never know. I go with people who go like travel and I'm like, well, it. Who cares? Hair suck.

[B]

Well, I can't because in the old days it was a step and a half and now it's three steps. It's just weird.

[A]

Yeah. And it's just you, you need the rhythm of the dribble of the ball.

[B]

And when you. When you grew up, by the way, when I grew up, if you made calls, like, if you made too many calls, that was looked down on. Yeah, people didn't like people that made a lot of calls.

[A]

When you were growing up, who was your favorite basketball player?

[B]

Oh, no, I meant in all games. When I grew up, who's my favorite baseball player? Of course. Pistol Pete Maravich.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

He was the master.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

I patterned my whole game after him. I mean, if you had the hoop right now, I could show you. I could still drip behind the back, between the leg up. I still got the. I don't know if I could still do it, but I probably could. I need a few tries to get it.

[A]

Do you play basketball still?

[B]

Never.

[A]

You and Sandler, I feel like. Are you friend. I don't know.

[B]

Well, the last time I played was Sandler was shooting a movie. I was in the movie. And it was on the. It was in the back of the mansion. Remember the Godfather? The horses had seen that mansion. It was in that house.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

So we're there. We played basketball in the backyard. And sandlers. You want to play? It was, like, getting dark. And he goes, you don't have to play this time because he much everybody to play. We used to play. I used to play with him when he was 18. So we go back there, and I start playing, and I'm being covered by Joe Vessi. Do you know him? The Remedy? And one we're playing, and I'm thinking, you know what? Bessie's obviously much better than me. But I still had a little bit of a game. And so as I think that the next play, I rush and I hear a pop. My Achilles broke in that house. My Achilles tore.

[A]

That hurts.

[B]

Oh, but it was scary. More scary than pain.

[A]

What did he do?

[B]

Pop? You hear a pop? I heard it.

[A]

And then were you immediately like, I can't put any pressure on my leg?

[B]

No. Because. No. For some reason, somebody told me, there's this other thing you have where you can put pressure. So I walked around that day. I went to the airport. I walked all the way through Kennedy, through the old. And I'm walking. I'm going, oh, my foot's really killing me. I go home, I take off my. My sock and my shoe. My wife goes, ah. What happened? My foot was shined. It was black and blue.

[A]

Can you. Does it, like, split? Can you see that? It's not.

[B]

No, I think.

[C]

No.

[B]

It's just so swollen.

[A]

Disgusting.

[B]

It's like black and blue.

[A]

That's disgusting.

[B]

It's weird. It was like a giant foot.

[A]

How long did that take to. What was the.

[B]

I had to go to get an operation.

[A]

Damn. When was this? Like a year ago, 10 years.

[B]

Oh, like seven years ago.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, that's the last time I played basketball.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

I've shot around since then. That's about it.

[A]

Still got the stroke, though. You could still.

[B]

I'm just. I was never. That's the problem. I was never a great shooter.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My whole game was driving, dribbling.

[A]

You're like Derrick Rose, like your game is.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Your body's not built for the game you want to play.

[B]

I am like Derrick Rose.

[A]

Everyone's saying it. Not in all ways, but in many ways.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All right. Was that. Did we milk? Did we juice your take fully? Did we get everything we needed out of your take? I like this theory that it's your. Because as a woman who's constantly told me, not you, I know I pointed at you. It's me. I'm always. You know, you didn't play the game, so you can't possibly. And I feel like it's actually a benefit of mine that I didn't play the game is. I have no delusion that I could have been playing it. I never once thought I was going to any league, so I was. I'm more approaching it as like a. Watching the sport, not thinking about how I got so close.

[B]

Yeah. I think the closer you get, the more you have committed to it. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, when I was growing up, there was just certain athletes and everybody else was just. You know, we were. We were. We knew we were fans by 14. Yeah.

[A]

Which is good. It's good to know yourself.

[B]

That's right. Young and. Yeah. So that was the. That's my. My. That's my biggest complaint with basketball. You know, the traveling is traveling and. And I really. I don't. I like passing better than people that I like. And one ball. And one ball is my favorite kind of basketball.

[A]

Like, mixtape ball. Like.

[B]

Yeah, I love that stuff. That's my favorite. I don't like dunking. I don't like people inside game. I don't like it.

[A]

You just want to see.

[B]

And so it's not even a game. It's just jumping and, you know, and these guys are getting even bigger now. You see these kids in high school. It's like 7 foot 6.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

Where are they making these kids?

[B]

I mean. And why are they. You should be making them play guard to train him for later in life.

[A]

You. You're a Mets fan? Yes. Not a Yankees fan.

[B]

I'm really. No. Not a Yankees fan.

[A]

That's it. That's. That's what I was looking for. I'm a Red Sox fan, so I was just making sure that.

[B]

Oh, I know. And, you know, every time I get divorced in my whole life, these boys and people are so sick and obsessed. Even though the Mets beat them and that was a heartbreaking thing we talk about.

[A]

It was right before I was alive, so I don't know anything about it.

[B]

Oh, yeah. All right. But when you go up there and you go, I was never a Yankees fan, they just look at you like they don't believe you. They think you're lying to get out of the argument. They're sick.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

Boston is Yankees sick.

[A]

Yeah. We just don't like we really don't like them. It's just like a true hate. Do you have a true sports hatred? Do you hate the Phillies? No.

[B]

I threw out the first pitch at a Phillies game.

[A]

Okay? So absolutely you don't hate them.

[B]

And guess what? And all the Mets f. Like how could you do that at Phillies game? Cuz the Mets never asked me, that's how.

[A]

Wait a second. How did the Mets never ask you to throw out?

[B]

Cuz I don't go to games. I'm really not that big of a. So what?

[A]

I know, that's so foolish.

[B]

But anyway, I threw out the first pitch at a Phillies game and thank God it was a day game, but thank God that Cole. I think it was Cole. It was one of the. Those did these two big male model pictures back then like 15 years ago. And one of them goes to me, listen, I'm gonna tell you what you do. He goes, don't burn it. You're on a mound.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He goes, if you burn it, it's gonna go in. He goes, that's physics. You have to lob it.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

And guess what? Lob it right over the plate. The whole, the whole place was disappointed.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because they want to boo you. Somebody had been on the week before, somebody from some reality show threw the pitch and they booed him. So they're waiting for another one. Damn.

[A]

And then even the little kids said sorry. Sorry.

[B]

Even these little kids looked at me like this, like they were mad. Like 10 year old kids. Like we wanted to boo 10 year.

[A]

Old Phillies fans too.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. That's like 30 year old fans somewhere else.

[A]

Yeah, those kids are different. You threw from the mound though. That is from the mountain. Because a lot of people throw in front of the mound.

[B]

Oh, they do.

[A]

Because they're afraid of the exact thing you mentioned.

[B]

That's the thing.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good for you. That means you, you're a real baller.

[B]

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, well, the baseball. You know, I always had a hitch in my swing. See, I grew up, we played stickball. You know, this is in Brooklyn. So we played stickball and baseball.

[A]

Wait, wait, what's the difference between the two? I thought stickball was just like the precursor to baseball. I'm very young.

[B]

It was, but. Yeah, but no, stickball is a rubber ball, okay?

[A]

Like a street hockey ball.

[B]

No, it's much lighter.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's like a real bouncy ball you usually call the Spalding and it. Stickball bat is very light, okay. And some People use broom handles, but, you know, we'd buy stickball bats and you tape them up with black massing tape. And then they started making them with tape. It was cool to have a new stickball bat. Was like a big. They weren't that expensive.

[A]

It's like pogs when I was a child. Yeah, similar.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. It was like a cool statue ball.

[B]

And then you just, you, you, you self pitch usually. Sometimes you can pitch if there's a backdrop all the way. Self pitch.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or else the ball goes down the block and then the sewer. So the good players would hit like two sewers.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because the sewers. Sewer grate would be the.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Base that second base. But it's also a marker. And if somebody had two sewers, they're really good. I had a hitch in my swing, which nobody ever explained. In those days, you were on your own. There was no. No, you couldn't go to YouTube and go, what I do for the hitch. Yeah. There was no book. Just like, yeah, you suck. So I had a hitch by saying, so I would always slice the ball and in baseball. And so I started to hate baseball because I would field fine, but whenever I tried to hit, I'd slice it. Just at the last second, I'd slice it. And this comedian named Eric McMahon from Jersey, who was a great baseball coach and player, once told me, look, your problem was he showed. She. Show me how you. I showed him. He goes, just go like this. This is going to sell my change my whole trajectory of my career, basically.

[A]

Had you known it sooner. Yeah.

[B]

He goes, just go like this, huh? He goes, put your knuckles, align these two instead of these two. And that would have changed.

[A]

Swing, home run.

[B]

Well, I didn't. I've never really done it since then, but I. I did feel like that would have worked.

[A]

Are you gonna golf? I never golf because I've tried golfing and I hear the reason that I keep slicing it is because for something in my follow through, I'm doing a baseball soft because I played softball. So my dad was like, something you're doing is mimicking a bat and it's causing the golf ball to. I quit golf.

[B]

That's interesting. Yeah. So you just quit, huh?

[A]

Yeah. You might be good at golf.

[B]

Yeah, maybe. I don't think so.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I mean, but golf is. It's too much of an addiction. The problem with golf is you spend the rest of your life playing golf.

[A]

I know. Trying to perfect.

[B]

And you just every morning get up and you go right to the golf course. You have no time to do anything else.

[A]

Yeah, but they don't want to do anything else.

[B]

I know. They love it.

[A]

Freaks. My dad's in two golf leagues. I'm like, dad what?

[B]

It's amazing, isn't it?

[A]

He loves it. Obsessed with it. Writes a newsletter in the basement on his computer.

[B]

And does he. And does he live. You live. You're from Massachusetts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Does he live at least in a place where there's a lot of golf?

[A]

No, actually, just closed our golf course in town recently. The golf course that we used to go to. So he's like, going out of town.

[B]

They closed the golf course in Taunton. I can't believe it.

[A]

Framingham close, though. He worked in Taunton.

[B]

It was pretty good. But what about. Yeah, well, he must be having a heart attack. Yeah, he must be freaking out.

[A]

No, because he'll drive that now. He just gets to drive to his various golf leagues in his convertible when the weather's not. My dad's the guy that, like, puts the top down as soon as it's the first day of it being like 55. And you're like in the backseat going. So he just like top down drives for an hour to some golf course. He loves it. It's his life. It's everything.

[B]

Yeah, no, they love it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it seems like it's really healthy, but at the same time, people do. Not everybody lives forever on golf courses. But maybe she's thinking of Caddyshack. By the way, how good of a movie was Caddyshack?

[A]

Really good.

[B]

I mean, because I was. When I was a young. I was 20 when it came out, so I was like that age where we knew all this hip stars in it. So you got all these hip stars. Rodney was even hip. Bill Murray, Chevy Chase. It's like hip. They're all smoking pot in the movie. And then we're like, oh, my God, Ted Knight's in this movie. He was on his Too close for comfort. He did another show, but he was kind of a square guy. It's just a good lesson in life. I'm like, oh, Ted. Night while they put him in the movies. Hip movie we want to watch. And then he steals the whole movie. He's so good. Yeah, he's so good. He takes a movie away from everybody.

[A]

Is that your fate? Would you say? Favorite sports movie?

[B]

Oh, I don't know. Because it's tough, you know. Slap shots, a great movie.

[A]

No one ever mentioned Slap Shot.

[B]

They don't?

[A]

No.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah, I feel like I'm always pitching slap shot to People, I'm a hobby.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Slap shots are great.

[A]

It's good.

[B]

One of the greatest movies of all time. Down one. Sports.

[A]

Yeah. The hockey scenes in it too are very, like, true to the.

[B]

Oh, it's great.

[A]

Yeah, it's great.

[B]

And it was all based on those guys. The, like, a lot of the players were based. Yeah, that was a great movie. And North Dallas 40. Ever see that movie?

[A]

No, I've never. I don't think even heard of that.

[B]

That's a great movie that stars Nick Nolte. Oh, it's based on his book by Peter G. There was a whole series. When I was growing up, there was a whole series of Rebels. Everybody was rebelling against the system. So there was all these sports books. Out of their League by Dave Magase. Confessions of a Dirty Ball Player by whoever it was. Johnny Sample was another. Like, these were all Rebels that get kicked out of the league or they all had either got kicked out of the league or they had problems in the league. And they were known as troublemakers. And they all wrote these sports. Sports books in the 70s were so much better than anything. It all started with a guy named Jim Bouton. Wrote this book called Ball Four where he exposed Mickey Mantle as kind of a half a, like, me too guy. And Mickey was like America's idol. And people were outraged. They wanted to kill him. He's like, you don't talk about America heroes like Mickey Mantle like that. But he's like, Mickey was a dirt bag, you know, and he just exposed. So that became. That set the tone for all these books. And they were all like these humongous anti books against all the. It was really. It was a really crazy time.

[A]

Yeah. I took a baseball in American literature class in college and we read none of the books.

[B]

You just said what I mean, Ball four is the pen alt. It set the tone not just for baseball, for every sport book from 1965 to 1985 or 90.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they were all like, really much more honest than today. If you read them, you'd be like, people can't write. Like, they're all prop. They're just honest.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though the guys might have been wrong, they were like angry at their culture. I'm not saying these guys were the heroes, but they were rebels and it was fun to read, you know.

[A]

What is the best baseball movie in your opinion?

[B]

I mean, that's a good question. I guess.

[A]

So many. So many good ones.

[B]

What are the. The good ones are. Are, you know, I mean, Bull Durham. Bulldorm's really good movie.

[A]

Great.

[B]

And Major League. Major League was funny. I don't think I would say it was a. I wouldn't put it up there with, like, you know, all those Kevin Costa movies have been made in a row.

[A]

Like Field of Dreams.

[B]

Field of Dreams is a great movie.

[A]

Yeah. But Too Corny is funny.

[B]

Too Corny.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Yeah, Major League was funny.

[A]

It's good. It's a good movie.

[B]

It was funny. You know what a movie like Major League, like, there's certain movies. I. I was just read some online just before I came in here about Rockstar. So movies like Rockstar, Remember that? With Mark Wahlberg.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Major League at the time were like, this is Cheeseball. Same with Patrick Swayze, Roadhouse, and you. But then later on you go, you know what? That's a good movie.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Major League 4 is in that category. Rockstar was in a category. And Roadhouse. I didn't know how good Roadhouse was, even though I loved it, until I saw the remake. And I go, the original was so good. This movie, so bad.

[A]

Yeah, that's a really good point.

[B]

Yeah. So Major League is.

[A]

It's. Maybe it's like a. I don't know if it's ahead of its time, but it's just like you need a minute away from it.

[B]

Yeah. You just look down and you're like, wait, this is great.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Same thing with Neil Diamond. I mean, when I was growing up, we all looked down on Neil Diamond. We're like, cheeseball, you know?

[A]

I don't know if I'm ready to say they're great, but it feels like Nickelback. Like Nickelback got. Everybody was making fun of Nickelback for a little. And then you go back and a song will come up and you go, this is Nickelback. I kind of liked this song. You know, it's like a.

[B]

It's funny you said that, because I was at a way. What happened was Nickelback the reason they blame their career on Tough Crowd? Because there was a promo on Tough Crowd that said, I won't say who the guy was, but I don't know if he wants. He already probably could have flack for it, but he was saying, that's like Nickelback. And for some reason was in the promo for six months, and Nickelback says that destroyed their career. So if they ran into me and they probably stabbed me to death, I couldn't even complain. Probably. Isn't that weird?

[A]

That's fascinating. You're the one technically. Technically involved in.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I didn't make the.

[A]

Promo into a punchline.

[B]

Technically. Yeah. Isn't that weird?

[A]

Do you want to apologize to them?

[B]

I totally apologize. Nickelback.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I never. I wasn't doing the promos.

[A]

Oh, yeah. He wasn't.

[B]

I had my own things going on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I do. I feel terrible.

[A]

You had your own things going on.

[B]

I mean, isn't that terrible that a. A promo can make a bunch? Because, you know, kids are impressionable. They're like, oh, yeah, Nickelback's not cool. You know, I mean.

[A]

And those promos sometimes would run a lot of times.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can we talk about tough crowd.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And mtv. It's just such a funny. I'm curious to know your thoughts on Trajectory. Yeah, I'm curious on your thoughts on where MTV's at, like now.

[B]

I mean, it's not even the same. I mean, when I was on mtv, we were the first non video. So everything else before that was videos.

[A]

Oh, I didn't realize you guys were the first.

[B]

Everything was music.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're the first. Like, and it was this irreverent game show. These guys came up with this and talking about hitting. I mean, we didn't even know at the beginning. We're like, that's Brady. But because we were doing comedy. So people talked about Brady Bunch and stuff. But we didn't realize these guys put together this show that was so ripe for people to really go. A game show where they're talking about like Brady. Specific episodes for the Brady Bunch. Like, it was so like, it's the first. It's like almost like a podcast about a subject.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In that they're like. We'd be like. So on episode three, the question would be for the Marsha is dating so and so. And then it'd be like, ging. And they have to guess.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And people knew because we all grew up watching these TV shows.

[A]

It was like a TV show for people who watch TV show who had.

[B]

Been addicted to tv left in front of the tv.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'll be honest, I barely got at the time. I'm like, I don't know why. I was in my own world. And then so it became this huge thing where if we walked around even the streets of Manhattan, every kid under the age of 20 would be screaming, running up to us, going. And all you. Everybody over 22 would be like, who the hell are they?

[A]

Yeah, who are they?

[B]

So it was a big, huge thing. And. And it was fun, you know, and it was such a different world. Like, we didn't get paid that much, but we would Go on these trips, these MTV trips, and everywhere you're going, you're going. Because it's an MTV thing. So it's like a party for that town. So we had so much fun.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

This whole. The executives were with her. Everybody was, like, in the early to mid-20s. So everybody's just hanging out with each other. So it was really a great time.

[A]

Yeah. And now it's just ridiculousness all day. That's all. Yeah, that's all they did show on repeat.

[B]

I feel like it's crazy.

[A]

And then Jersey Shore, I think. I think is.

[B]

Well, Jersey Shore. They. They had a reunion, a roast of the Jersey. Because they were all older now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Unless there's a New Jersey shore or the river.

[A]

Know, I thought they were still. Big J always talks about Jersey Shore. I think they're still. They might still be doing it. I just don't know if it's the same people. Maybe it's people now.

[B]

Maybe they're just doing them now. But because Big J. The reason Big J probably talks about that. I'm only going to, you know, analyze Big J is because we don't have that much time. Yeah. Big J was like the rocker brother of those guidos that they're like, don't hit him. He's my brother. But, you know, then they abuse him themselves throughout the whole entire.

[A]

That's just Jay. That's just Big J. Yeah.

[B]

Big J. Where you paint your fingernails for. Smack him on the back of the head.

[A]

I was watching the SNL50 stuff this year, and I just wanted to say to your face, I think I said this to you when we came to a show, Dan and I, but that you were disrespected in the rankings of Weekend Update hosts. How did you feel?

[B]

I could. I don't care.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't care about that kind of stuff. That was a. You know, I loved being on SNL before doing updates. So much more than when I was doing updates.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Less pressure.

[B]

It was just fun, you know, it was new and it was just fun. And I was doing little segments that I wanted to do. You know, that update was not really a good fit for me.

[A]

I thought you were so good at it.

[B]

Oh, thanks.

[A]

I really. I mean that.

[B]

It was just weird. But I like doing. I like doing character stuff on there more. Or segments with Norm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was more fun for me.

[A]

Yeah. I was gonna say also tough. I know that was. I think your first that you made is when you had to take over for Norm.

[B]

But speaking, by the way, speaking of comments. It was just the start of groups online, you know, I mean, there was no. So you'd have sub. So I would get. I was one of the earliest people that had to get tough.

[A]

Oh, boy. Yeah.

[B]

I had to get tough early. I mean, now everybody.

[A]

Now we all have to harden ourselves. Anything.

[B]

Oh, brutal.

[A]

Do you remember any.

[B]

Just everything from fat. Not funny. He stinks. He's the worst. I mean, it was brutal, but every week. But it made you. It was just. I was just ahead of the time. But we all have to deal with that constant.

[A]

I know, but you've been. I really hadn't thought of that. That. You had to.

[B]

That was the first.

[A]

You were like, the first.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wave of resistance of Internet comment.

[B]

Yeah. So it was really interesting, but brutal, you know, now everybody has to do it.

[A]

I know. Do you miss the time when that. You didn't have to do that.

[B]

I mean, like, I said that. I guess mtv, we didn't have to deal with that. Yeah. But I mean, by the time I was on snl, it was starting to perk up, and it definitely was. You know, that was a real thing at the time for me. And I was the only one. It was just an early thing.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

But you get used to it, you know, as you know, you have to be that tough and, like, that's it.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Come with the benefits of, you know, comments. You're like, hey, don't read. Read four of them. You're like, these people. This is great. And then the fifth one, you're like, ah. Why did I keep reading?

[A]

I know. It's like, why didn't I stop? Why didn't I go. And that is how everyone feels. Is how those three people feel. Instead of like. Because you look for it until you find it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then just all day. That's not. I don't. The Internet pointed out for me. I started on YouTube, and the Internet very quickly pointed out for me all these niche things about my face that suck that I never noticed. So, like, somebody pointed out very early in my career that my ends of my lips turn up like the joker. And once I saw that, I was like, I'm gonna have new insecure. They invented insecurities for me to have.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I was like, I've never thought about this in my life.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Mean?

[B]

No. What do you mean?

[A]

It's crazy, but you just have to be able to read it and go. And off I go to do my job again. Because you can't get in there.

[B]

No, of course. Not the people that do that are really foolish.

[A]

I used to. I used to. It was a different time. Twitter was a different website, but I used to. Especially if they tee you up, that you can just, like, clang.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I used to answer people, but only ironically. Yeah, I only use Twitter ironically. And that was the smartest move.

[A]

You did a sports thing on Twitter, didn't you? Yeah, it was a year during, like, the finals or something.

[B]

Oh, I do it every year, and it's just infuriating tweets.

[A]

Wait, so you're, like, in the thick of it when it comes to sports fans on Twitter in those moments, because, you know, see the worst of it, where people are taking you at your word and reacting to you like, you're.

[B]

Being my favorite thing.

[A]

Yeah, that's my least favorite thing on earth. I can't imagine that. Is that fun? That's fun for you?

[B]

For me, it's fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's because I'm just watching them get mad, and then a lot of people that follow me regularly know the.

[A]

Joke will go like.

[B]

So they're just like, oh, look at this idiot. He doesn't even get these. Because I'll say, like, the one thing that's sort of like. But quietly, like, subtly, so it's not, like, over the top. Like, this guy's that dumb, but it's just like the missing the point of.

[A]

Yeah, let's give him an example. Let's give our listeners an example. You don't happen to remember them off the top of your head, do you?

[B]

No, but it would have to be last year, the Final Four or Super Bowl. Usually I do the Super Bowl. I do the Final Four in bet in college hoops, and then it's just. But usually it's during a play happens, and then I just misread. I'm. I say what the play was, but only like a real. A person. Just. Only a sports family get furious at what I say.

[A]

You know, this one, this is from older than that. This is from 2018, I guess. Golf Digest wrote an article about it, so congrats.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

What LeBron's doing statistically is not that impressive, I'll grant you that. But he elevates everybody else's game, and that's where he's a value to the.

[B]

Team.

[A]

Is so funny. And then as after or at the beginning of a bad game seven, you said, so far, it's been a shootout between two teams playing at the top of their game. Hashtag, Cavs, Celtics. Yeah, very funny.

[B]

And I'd be like, you know, whoever wins this one can claim, you know, the victor. Claim best team of the year. Like in a final. Yeah. And the people. Yeah. That's why they have a final. Stupid.

[A]

I'm like, no, you're stupid.

[B]

Oh, you're not getting bit. Yeah, but that was my favorite thing. I'll do that again. I'm glad. You remind me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Please. For the Final Four, I do it.

[A]

Hell, yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That's my favorite.

[A]

You're a big college basketball guy.

[B]

I like college basketball.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Although this year, I like Indiana. It's weird. First of all, they have a great football team.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's unnatural.

[A]

Yeah. What's that? It's like not a football school.

[B]

It's Indiana, Kentucky, North Carolina were always basketball schools.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though they were in football states. I'd like it to continue that way. Although Indiana's a basketball state.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's face it. Indiana is the craziest.

[A]

Their basketball is everything.

[B]

Every house has a hoop in the yard.

[A]

Everything. Yes.

[B]

You drive by. Every house is a hoop.

[A]

It's wild. It's wild. Caitlin Clark. Did you get in on the Caitlin Clark of it all?

[B]

I love Caitlin Clark.

[A]

She's nasty. She's absolutely nasty.

[B]

She's great.

[A]

Electric.

[B]

She's amazing.

[A]

Is she. Are you in the W. Are you into the wnba? Just as you. A guy who said he likes passing and a guy who said he likes.

[B]

That's what I like about it. But the Caitlin Clark injury is bizarre.

[A]

Wait, why?

[B]

Because a groin pull. You're not out for a year. She was out for like a year.

[A]

Well, our groins, girl. Groins are different.

[B]

Well, you know, I was thinking that maybe part of the problem. You're right.

[A]

Yeah. I don't think that is what it is, but it sound. It sounded right.

[B]

It does sound.

[A]

If you had to point to the places. If an alien said, what places of this body, a woman's body, are different than this, a male body. You would say the groin. The groin area.

[B]

Right. That would be number one. But it is. I hope she comes back, because she's.

[A]

She's.

[B]

Well, the thing about her, too, is, like the pet. The amount of passes that don't even. You know, people are trying to catch up. It's not their fault either. But she's just so good. Her passing game is so good that it just, you know, it arrives there, but nobody's there.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

It's kind of badass.

[A]

She's real nasty. The Liberty games are really fun. Have you been to a Liberty game?

[B]

No.

[A]

I can't say enough good things about it. I went to my first one last season, a black. You. They would love you. You should go.

[B]

You should go at the Liberty. Why? Because it's at the.

[A]

Because New York. It's just a. It's at Barclays, so it's, like, a little bit smaller. I know you're probably going like, ew, Barclays. You're not like a.

[B]

No, I love Barclays.

[A]

Yeah, so you should. They have a funny mascot.

[B]

They do.

[A]

Have you seen Ellie the Elephant?

[B]

Ellie the Elephant?

[A]

Yeah. You've not known. You've had no interaction with Ellie the Elephant at all?

[B]

No. No.

[A]

Has not hit your timeline. Are you. Do you scroll through social media?

[B]

I get annoyed by mascots.

[A]

You do?

[B]

I just realized that just now.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I can't believe all these years, I've never even thought about how he. You know why? Because I don't like cartoons.

[A]

Okay. Okay what?

[B]

I don't like cartoons at all. I. I mean, I like South Park. I appreciate the writing on these. You know.

[A]

Simpsons.

[B]

Yeah, Simpsons and all that. And. But I just. Cartoons annoy me. Even the. Even this. The. My favorite south park was the movie where they didn't do cartoons. You know, Team America, World's Police.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't mind. I'll accept puppets. I drove them on. I just hate cartoons because I feel like they're lazily written. I feel like I could draw them. And I get. I guess that's part of the joke or something. It just annoys me. I don't like funny voices.

[C]

What?

[A]

You don't like funny voices?

[B]

No, I don't like those. All right. When they try too hard to be, like, childish.

[A]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That kind of stuff.

[B]

Yeah. It's not bad for me, you get.

[A]

A joke voiceover, but you hate it, so who cares?

[B]

It's big money. Maybe it's because my voice could never be in a cartoon. Yeah.

[A]

Actually, I've never heard you talk any way other than how you talk.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

Yeah. It's kind of the whole thing.

[B]

It's the whole thing. But. And by the way, I had to. I literally had to go to this Alexander guy for years just so I can maintain this. Because if you watch somebody who talks like this when they're 30 or 40.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

By the time they're my age, they talk like that. So I didn't get to that just because I don't want to be able to. I don't want to not be able to talk about.

[A]

How are you maintaining this? Are you like?

[B]

It's called Alexander technique.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it's basically just thinking, not using your throat. Your throat. Your voice is going to come through your throat anyway. So you don't have to. But you don't have to help it and push it because then you end up with voice like that.

[A]

Am I doing that?

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

I'm going to think about this all day.

[B]

Well, think about this. Your lungs are in your back. So when you're breathing, you should be breathing in your lung, through your lungs in the back. If you watch a baby breathe. If a baby. All the time you watch a baby breathe, their stomach goes up when they inhale and goes in.

[A]

This I feel like I learned in an acting class in like high school.

[B]

Alexander. That's right.

[A]

They teach you to like breathe with your dye.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

But I don't. I still don't think I do it.

[B]

No, you probably don't. Most people don't.

[A]

Why, why would they make it difficult to breathe? Why can't that just be how we breathe?

[B]

We, we force ourselves. When we're little kids, we breathe correctly and then life gets you and you start to breathe differently and you start to grip in different places.

[A]

Although when we're little kids, we breathe in the middle of sentences and that does have to go. Kids will talk, will be like. And then I went. And then I was talking to the. And then I went.

[B]

But that's when it's already. You're already traumatized by that breath wise. When you're a little baby. Why do you think babies are so loud and clear when they cry?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Because they're breathing correctly.

[A]

I had never thought about that before.

[B]

They're breathing from the diaper. See how pure. They never like. I mean, maybe you probably was. Yeah.

[A]

So are you doing like exercises every day, like breathing?

[B]

No, it's just a question. It's a question of thinking a certain way.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's what's so weird.

[A]

Okay, I got, I'm working on a lot of think in certain ways. I'll put that one on the list.

[B]

But speaking of breathing, you know how they say in boxing breathing is important? Swimming.

[A]

I'm just gonna bring up boxing.

[B]

Oh, I like, look at that.

[A]

Okay, keep going.

[B]

I'm just saying I wonder how much, I wonder how much breath work they do in sports now. In every sport. Because just think about this. When you tense, you can't do anything, right? Any sport you think tighten the bat. But we over tighten the bat. Real players, see how loose their hips Are. And they're like. And they swing the bed kind of cat kind of casually. Right. My glasses.

[A]

This is your phone.

[B]

Oh, geez.

[A]

I got eyes on it.

[B]

Okay, so. But I'm just saying, I wonder if they teach, like, relaxation. If they're just like, somebody can either do it or not.

[A]

They must.

[B]

In the old days, they were like, you're a natural. You're not. But now it's like a thing.

[A]

They've got all that science and, like, wearable tech. So. Yes, I noticed it in baseball. They. People were always bringing up heart rate. They were always like, this guy's got a. A steady, low heart rate. And I was like, why do we know that? I don't think we need to know that.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Yeah. But it's just to show, like, he can. He stays calm. He doesn't peak. He just.

[B]

So another thing that's changed. When I was growing up, you had the announcer. I mean, now they have so many statistics just from, you know, they'll be like, this is the third game in a row they've scored 11 runs and past six innings, it's like all this bullshit. When I was growing up, they would have these announcers, like Phil Rizzuto. And my friend used to routine about him. He's got Ludimaggio. He goes, they gotta be like, it's a double. And then Fuzz, you know, would go, what do you think? That played Bill on second and third. And I was like, birthday greetings to Carmelo Cinderelli. He goes, oh, yeah, that's a triple play. And we had a steak last night. Let me tell you. Wait, this would be a Bill White, his partner. This was delicious. I mean, the mushroom. And it'd be like baseball plays going on, but it was funny. It was, like, realer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though it was, you know, sometimes you'd be frustrated, like that said, what.

[A]

Are you talking about?

[B]

Yeah, and it was a famous Monday Night Football. All this stuff started in the early 70s. All these books came out, and they had Monday Night Football. So it was this guy Howard Gosell, Dan Merrill, Don Meredith, who's an ex Cowboys quarterback, who was just a party animal. And then some third guy was this straight man. And Howard be like, how about you, Don? I saw you last night. You didn't see me, even though you were looking at me and talking to me for an hour. Yeah, Howard, I did have a few last night. I'm not gonna lie to you. And they'd just be like, these party guys. It was so much realer. Yeah, but people loved like, that was the most famous Monday Night Football. He just started, right. And the announcers really loved, like, Dandy Don. And he just knew. He was like, a savage out there every night in the bars, drinking and whoring around, you know, and it was really funny.

[A]

Did you have an opinion when. When Dennis Miller went into the booth for that. Was that two seasons, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you. I know people have strong opinions on. I didn't know.

[B]

They still do.

[A]

Yeah, well, probably not.

[B]

I mean, at the top. Because I knew Dennis Miller, and I love Dennis Miller, so I love that he was bringing all this, you know, erudition into the booth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or. But I could tell. But sometimes you use language. I'd be like, oh, no, Dennis, you're gonna get.

[A]

I don't think they're gonna like that, dad.

[B]

They're not gonna like that. That. That language is a little obscure, arcane for this crowd, and. But he was. Yeah. I mean, I loved. I loved. I'd love to mix it up. Like, I would love to see. Oh, my God, you just came up with the greatest show of all time. What we do. A tough crowd announcing.

[A]

That would be sick. Who would you. Who would you.

[B]

You would have to do it.

[A]

Okay, fine. If I must, I'll be free.

[B]

I mean. I mean, I'd rather run it, but, yeah, I'd have to be in it. Only because I understand that you have to go off subject, that you can't ever. You have to commit to being off subject the whole time. That's what's funny.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, if somebody was to talk at the game and yell at us, one of the other people on the game can be like, I want to watch this game. I love sports. You guys have ruined sports for me. That's fine.

[A]

That is. Yeah.

[B]

Just as long as everyone's being real. But watching a game the way people actually watch a game.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I love that.

[B]

It's a great idea. Right?

[A]

Write it down. Well, your phone is in between the.

[B]

Write it down. You're recording it for posterity.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[B]

Someone's gonna try to steal this and.

[A]

Ruin it, clip it and embargo it. Yeah, that's a word I've.

[B]

I like that. Embargo. Buying an embargo, because, let's face it, that'd be a good idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you'd need people that are interested in sports. You know, and like I said, I'm very. Even though I don't watch that much, I'm very cocky with sports. And then I Feel like I know the lay of the land very easily because I watched it so long in my life and I read the sporting news.

[A]

Right. Every day. Yeah, for as long. Every week. Sorry, every week.

[B]

But it was once we could get delivered with the paper and I'd be like, yeah, read my sporting.

[A]

The paper, kids, is a thing that used to show up at the door every day that had the news in.

[B]

It and like 10 years old reading the.

[A]

He knews crazy with like a coffee.

[B]

No, but I. I knew everybody's batting average every football play. I knew all that.

[A]

What did you do with this information at the time?

[B]

Nothing. I didn't like baseball cards. I mean, I should have been, you know, making millions of baseball card trading. I mean, I. I had some of those cards back then, but I didn't care. I just wanted them for the gum, you know what I mean? I would throw the cards away and just keep the gum.

[A]

The gum still sucked.

[B]

The gum was terrible.

[A]

It always like broke in little pieces that were. Maybe that's when I was getting old cards.

[B]

The gum was terrible.

[A]

Yeah, but it.

[B]

It's better than nothing. You're in a cards, there's a piece of gum. You can either throw the gum out or chew bad gum. You rather chew bad gum.

[A]

Bad gum. It just was so chalky. I remember the reason I was going to ask about boxing and like fight sports in general. I know you're a fan. Do you have any thoughts or opinions on Jake Paul?

[B]

I mean, I. Everybody hates Jake Paul. I love the fact that he got in the ring with all. With Anthony Joshua. I love it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you kidding me? It's like, you know, every. He's living every boy's dream of going, I'll fight that. I mean, it was obviously a bad move, but he went all the way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, somebody's like, oh, he get his ass good? Good. It's like, yeah, but he got in the ring with Anthony Joshua. It took. I mean, that's. Nothing could be more frightening if you're fighting a real boxer like that.

[A]

Yeah. Because a couple of his fights before that were either with like people who had retired and were old or they were like UFC or they were. Yeah, he never really. And he got in there and he did it. Did you watch it? Do you watch his fight?

[B]

No, I just watch clips like everybody else.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But I feel like. Yeah, I feel like box is like everything else. The people that really start when they're young, they understand the basic principles that even though he's did a great he's got a great punch and all that, you know, I mean, like, there's a thing you pick up when you're young that I feel like he doesn't have. It's, it's, it's. Nobody can manufacture it.

[A]

Unteachable.

[B]

Well, yeah. They say you can only learn things like languages or musical instruments. You learn them when you're older. It's still okay, but there's something about the people that do it early.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They get a rhythm that's hard to. It's hard to beat.

[A]

And he early was on YouTube. He was. That's where.

[B]

Yeah, he was a YouTube guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's an adorable YouTube guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I admire. Look, I admire. He fought Anthony Joshua.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

People don't realize what that it's scary entails.

[A]

It lasted longer than I thought it was going to.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But I was so glad to finally see him.

[B]

Oh, he caught him, too. I mean, that job caught him. His hand was down.

[A]

You were like, he put his hands down a lot.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I kept going, like, what? I don't. I don't watch a ton of boxing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I know enough to know. You don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Keep dropping your hands, man. But I don't know, he broke his jaw in what, two places, I think.

[B]

How about. Yeah, and boxing's great. Every time you watch boxing. Boxing, one of those things, we watch it and you just can't stop watching until something happens.

[A]

Yeah, it's exactly on YouTube. It's.

[B]

It's the. I wonder. It's the greatest thing you can watch on YouTube. Like, it's the most YouTube friendly thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it's. It is clips.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

By his very nature. It's three minute rounds.

[A]

Right. It's already made for clipping.

[B]

Well, your father probably watched golf on YouTube.

[A]

Probably. I don't, I don't. I don't ask. I got a look at my mom's algorithm when she was scrolling through it during the holidays, and I was like, I don't need to see that.

[B]

Just all golfing.

[A]

It's just. No, my mom's is like. It's just all like. She's like an older woman and it's just. Facebook broke a lot of their brains and I just chilled. Scroll. And I'm like, what are you watching? Get off of that. Don't. That's. It's just like all drama. It's like, I'll go, Mom, that's AI. That's AI. And she's like, no, no. This cat is DJing like, it's not. It's not. I know it's not. I promise.

[B]

Well, I hate when sometimes my friends will send me videos of me and I'm like, yeah, we just posted that.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

Send it back to me.

[A]

Why am I greeted? When you open your phone, it's your own face, and you're like, yes.

[B]

Oh, God. The worst.

[A]

I can't stand him.

[B]

No, I know.

[A]

Clipping the Internet. Being a comic has changed so much from when you started doing to now. Is it okay? Are you doing. Is everything okay? The industry feels so different, but everything.

[B]

Look, here's the thing about comedy right now. It's the only part of the industry that actually can make money by going on the road. Everybody else.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Actors have the hardest life right now. Writers, these people. Because there's no. There's no middle. There's no. There's no standard. There's no movies or TV shows.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just this weird, amorphous, weird business of clips. They can't do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The actors are. They must be having a heart attack. Like, the average actor, a good working actor, must be freaking out. There's no residuals. There's no work.

[A]

Celebrities are taking commercials, which used to be where you would go as an actor that you could go, just get some commercial work. And now it's all Kevin Hart.

[B]

They're really taking commercials.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Isn't it funny, though? Every time I watch the 49ers, I think of Dan. I go, I wonder what Dan's thinking right now.

[A]

It's probably bad. They're so hurt this year. And he is so watching games with him. It's like you. You tell. You have the logical conversation before the game starts. Where you go, now, this is. I know the Seahawks are your rival, but you guys are really, really banged up. And the likelihood that you're going to win this one, probably low. Something we should all be accepting. And then by the second quarter, he's like, how are we not? And then he's just, like, losing it. And you're like, we knew this was gonna.

[B]

But I feel like most people are spoiled. See, I grew up on the jets, so when you're a Jets fan, you're not spoiled like I was. No. Because I was a little kid, when I was 10 years old, the jets won the super bowl, the Mets won the World Series, and the Knicks won the World Championship the same year, all three of them.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

And I remember thinking, like, this is probably how my life is going to go with sports. More or less.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're In New York. We're a big, huge city with the center of the universe. This is probably. This makes sense to me. Yeah.

[A]

You're like kicking your feet up. Like this is what my life's like.

[B]

And then next thing you know, the Knicks hung around a little bit. The jets plummeted immediately named stupid knees. And then the Mets were horrible. They had that one run in 86. But. But yeah. It's been a nightmare. The jets especially have been. I mean, is it the owners? Is it that they're cursed? I mean, I can't. I can't figure it out.

[A]

Yeah. It's feels like a little bit of everything over there. But listen, the Mets are not really doing much better.

[B]

No.

[A]

At the moment.

[B]

No. And I secretly hate on the Knicks a lot because here's what I realize it is. I'm wondering why do I hate on the Knicks that were my team. I love the Knicks. Yeah. Is because I don't like everybody else that started liking Nicks after I was born.

[A]

It's the Timothee Chalamet effect.

[B]

But way before him. But yes. Timothy Challenge. Unlike everybody else. After I was born. Being like Nick's and I'm like. You know, I mean it's almost like, you know, they're late comers. I don't want. I want to be the only one. Even Woody Allen, Spike Lee a late comers compared to me. In my opinion. Because I remember as a little kid I got to go to a Knicks game when I was 11. I didn't see Spike Lee and Woody.

[A]

Allen there and I was checking for him.

[B]

And in those days the stands. Not only the stands filled with people smoking. Yeah. Connie Hawkins one of my favorite place on the bench. Legs like this. Smoking on the bench during the game on his.

[A]

So why can't we. You know, I mean.

[B]

How funny.

[A]

Let's go get some.

[B]

Look. That was the glory days of smoking. Yeah.

[A]

Back. Yeah. When they. When there was no idea of the consequences.

[B]

They knew about it, but it didn't matter.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's when. Because anybody could smoke. When they didn't know about the consequence. These people knew and they were like I don't care. I love cigarettes. What happened was in the 90s, suddenly you see people outside offices were shunned. It started like 92, 93. They were shunned. And if you want to talk about outside of work and stuff. You couldn't smoke.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Suddenly became banned in certain places. But if you want to. You don't want to know who to blame for ground zero for smoking. Being banned all over the world. Not just in New York, at nightclubs and bars all over the world. Paris, Dublin, Mayor Bloomberg. And guess what, it's even worse. He was an ex smoker.

[A]

Damn. Damn. That's like.

[B]

Because he banded in New york bars in 2002 or something. Yeah. So suddenly people used to hire limos and people go out there and smoke in the limos. You remember this guy? And he banned it. And then suddenly we go, paris, they're doing the same thing because New York did it. And suddenly Dublin doing the same thing. London, all over the country. So that's who started all one guy.

[A]

I remember the stage where in Massachusetts at least. I don't know how it was. It was probably. Everybody's different, right? But I was like a cocktail waitress at the bar that my mom was a bartender at. And there was a stage where they. You had to have a smoking section enclosed. So like all these restaurants built around their bars, like in like walls that weren't there before so that if you wanted to smoke, you could smoke at the bar. But the whole restaurant had to be out, like separate from it. And like then within a few months, I feel like it was fully banned. So you just was like such a waste of building all this stuff. I'm just making sure there's nothing I'm leaving on the table here that I wanted to ask you, but before I let you go, because I do have to let you go. I don't want to. But you can also, now that we've done this, you can come back here anytime you have sports takes. Colin, we're here for you.

[B]

What are we going to sit down for one sports take that I have.

[A]

Yeah. And then leave. That's totally fine. Take five. You could. Yeah.

[B]

Do you guys take calls?

[A]

We. Well, I have a radio show that.

[B]

Takes calls, take callers. Oh, you do?

[A]

Noon to one every day. O. I know. On Mad Dog Sports Radio, Channel eight.

[B]

Oh, nice. Well, maybe I'll have to call in with some my things. I forgot about sports.

[A]

Yeah, you should. 888 Mad Dog 6 if you want to put it in your phone, which is on the floor. Do you watch sports tv? That'll be the last thing I ask you.

[B]

I mean, something espn, that's about it.

[A]

Do you have like an analyst that you like or an analyst that you hate?

[B]

Damn, I don't watch any of that, unfortunately. I mean, I know, you know, I know who they are sort of just because they're famous, you know? Yeah, but I mean, I don't Like Stephen A. Smith. Yeah, sure. He's the most famous. 623-3646. I mean, he really. I give him credit for changing the game. Like, he's the first one. Just like mad dog. Like, people that did something where they changed the game and suddenly it's like, you know, I mean, like. Like Howard Stern, like, changed radio and so like Stephen Smith, in a lot of ways, you know, he's. His big mouth did change the game. You know, I gotta give credit to it.

[A]

You do. You have to give credit where it's due.

[B]

But I'm sure we're missing some big thing. What was your favorite?

[A]

Oh, that is what I wanted to ask you.

[C]

What?

[A]

What's the last great game you watched?

[B]

Oh, that's why I like college basketball, by the way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

College hoops. It seems almost like every year, as it gets closer and closer to the. To the Sweet 16, the games get more and more. It's amazing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's in college football too. But college basketball especially, the enthusiasm level is so great. Did you ever go to any of those games?

[A]

No. Well, I went to the Big east something once, but that's how much attention.

[B]

But the Big east is not.

[A]

It wasn't the same. It wasn't like the.

[B]

I only. And believe me, I. I'm talking a big game. All I did was once I was doing comedy in Lexington, Kentucky.

[A]

Oh, shoot.

[B]

Yeah, Comedy on Broadway. Weird name, but still there. And the owner, good friend, can't remember his name, but he took me to Kentucky game. And they weren't even that good that year. Yeah, Kentucky, Louisville. And we went there and just walked into the. And just the walk through, I was like, this is great. You know, like, my cousins and stuff, their kids went to Ohio State. And people that go to like a school like that, you just get into it. Yeah, you get into it.

[A]

It's infectious.

[B]

It's infectious. And it's like, exactly.

[A]

Intense, right?

[B]

Yeah. And that's why I like watching.

[A]

And anything can happen. Like, that's the thing. I've just started trying to get into college football because I watch a lot of NFL football and I'll watch college games and I'm like, so many mistakes. And anybody who loves college football is like, that's why it's awesome. Because at any minute, nothing's a given. At any minute, someone can do something that you wouldn't see them do in the pros, but it leads to this. Anything can happen.

[B]

That's why. A good gambler today. Not that I'm trying to teach people how to be a good gambler. But if you're a good gambler, you follow all the college athletes and their girlfriends on social media and see if they're fighting before the game. Cause when you're 19, that can affect your game.

[A]

That's such a good point. In older age now looking back and going like you'd like to think that they're separate from that, but when you're young and you're not in charge of what's going on up here by much.

[B]

A guy will throw a pass at his girlfriend, be like, I'm doing this. I'm grounded. This ball could. You said that yesterday.

[A]

Yeah, well. So you follow a lot of college girls on Instagram.

[B]

Yes, I do.

[A]

I follow only college and that's the explanation. That's why. It's because they're dating athletes he wants to gamble on. Do not look into it any further.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Colin, thank you for coming and doing our little show. Very, very cool. Again, he is at the Comedy Cellar this weekend. Go to colinquin.com for for dates and go see him. Cause Colin, you are the best, the funniest and I love. I'll speak only for myself, but I love you so much.

[B]

Thank you so much. Thanks, Katie.

[A]

Yeah.

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[A]

Okay. Welcome back. Hey, wasn't that fun? Big thanks to Colin Quinn. What a guy. Hopefully that's the first of many and we'll see him in here a lot more. Listen, usually this is where we talk about Isabella's fantasy team, but the season's over and she won, so we don't have to do that here. We. I've been. You sound so excited. No, I'm to move on. No, I love talking about fantasy team. Do you want to do it again? No, I'll just say one last time, guys, I won. Okay. Shout out. But before I was reminded by our. The lovely casualties that what we used to do here in the. I guess you'll call it the C block was. Did you see that? And you guys say you've. You've gathered some.

[B]

Yeah, there's a few. Few stories that didn't quite fit in with our conversation with Colin that we thought we'd move to the C block here and. And just touch on a few funny things that have happened over the past week that caught our eye.

[A]

Such a good idea, Chris. And thank you for coming up with it. Let's start with Trevor Lawrence. After AI generated memes of Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence wearing a grill and gold chain went viral, his teammates decided to mark the moment and the team's AFC south title with a flashy gift. A real grill looks good on him. Does it? I didn't. I didn't look at the picture. Yeah, I didn't click on the picture.

[B]

Looks like Paul Wohl.

[A]

Oh, wait. Shit, that does look cool on him. Brady, you feel differently.

[C]

There's a big difference between his and Cam Scatter Boo. And I can't put my finger on it.

[A]

And what do you mean this one's not as shiny? Well, I don't know as shiny. I don't know what his previous grills looked like, but I would venture a guess this is his first foray into the grill world.

[B]

From the way he reacted which was very excited and very, you know, happy to be a part of the. The Grylls group.

[A]

The grill community.

[B]

The grill community. I think this is his first one.

[A]

Yeah, man. That's a great picture though of him with that on. Isabella, do you have any. I know the younger girls do like tooth gems. I've never done it. Do they. How do they put those on? I don't know, some really strong gorilla glue. Or do they put a hole in hole in your tooth? No, it's glue. Okay. Yeah. That could be crazy, Katie. But I've seen people do it. They like do like stones in the shape of like a butterfly on like one tooth. Like your canine tooth? Yeah, I get stuff stuck in my teeth too much to partake in that trend. I would just constantly be like, yeah, we see the butterfly, but it's right next to a giant piece of lettuce. And it's kind of ruining the vibe for me. I like when they do the ones that have like the outline of metal. Like you can pop it on one tooth and it's got like a little outline. Those are cute. I've seen those. Or the ones where it's like metal but it's like a line. Yeah, those are tooth. Yeah, those are wild. And then January 28th, that's my birthday. In case anybody was looking for gift ideas. One tooth grill for your host. For your host here. That could do wonders for our numbers, you know, and we could just do something where I look at the camera and I smile and wink and it goes ding. And there's like a little shine.

[C]

Like you're about to rob my house when my parents go to France.

[A]

Yes, exactly. And you've been left behind. Okay. We also have Nuggets. Spencer Jones. I guess I should be saying. Did you see that nugget? Spencer Jones takes LinkedIn aura farming to new heights after 76ers upset. So the Nuggets won 125 to 124 over the Sixers Monday night. And then one of their players, Spencer Jones, posted his thoughts about the victory on LinkedIn. I'm now going to read the post for you some games you'll remember for the rest of your life. On paper, this one didn't make sense. Shorthanded by seven players, no starters available, with lineup made almost entirely of guys who began their careers in the G League. We were on the road against a top team in the Eastern Conference with multiple NBA stars. Everything about it was unlikely, including my defensive matchup against a near 300 pound center. But nights like this remind you what teams are really built on? Effort carries, belief compounds. And when everyone commits to the same goal, logic stops mattering. One of the most improbable wins. I've comma, random, comma, I've been a part of. And we did it in ot. Love this team exclamation point.

[C]

That, comma, seems suspicious because everything else was perfect.

[B]

I feel like in terms of spelling.

[A]

And punctuation, although I do feel like nowadays that's a marker for non AI. We're at the point where we're starting. I'm starting to look for like something that proves you wrote this. And if you put a maybe that's what he.

[B]

Why he did it. Because it was written by AI and to throw off the scent.

[A]

Yeah. I also don't think AI would end a sentence in a preposition. So he's doing a lot with that. Just that one last. Second to last, I guess third to last sentence. If you count love this team as a sentence, there's a lot going on in there that makes me go, he.

[C]

Wrote this himself with anything more than one sentence. I've learned it's impossible to sound sane on LinkedIn. Like, you get one line and that's it.

[A]

Here's my thing. I haven't been on LinkedIn because once I got this cool job that I thought was very different from what LinkedIn was for, I was like, what's the point? I'm not gonna have my resume on a LinkedIn to find out that a basketball player is on LinkedIn is that he's keeping his. His opportunities open, and that is his.

[C]

Reference is on ESPN.com like his stat line is his resume. I don't know what he needs from LinkedIn.

[A]

Are there other basketball players on LinkedIn?

[C]

Oh, there have to be.

[A]

We need to be diving in on this. Let's. And Chris, wherever you put those emails, can you also put the idea that we should find current pro athletes who have LinkedIns and maybe do a dive into how they post done. Okay. And if you need to write a Note for yourself, LinkedIn is Technically, I guess, a social media network. So we can teach you what that is. Social media site. Last one. No, I guess we can do two more. But boy, what a long podcast. We said we were gonna make them short and we still can't. Did you see this? Drake got hit with a RICO lawsuit over alleged gambling scheme with Steak. And let me just say, it's about time Steak was skirting those things, those regulations that you're supposed to follow with social media. And all that and not because it's skirt steak.

[C]

You.

[A]

I like the way Isabella will make a face when you know she's like, well, it's in the chamber. You gotta let her shoot it. Finish your sentence. Get out of the way. Cause it's coming and it's always worth it. Drake and Internet streamer Aiden Ross, a guy I really wish I could go back to not knowing about, have been named in a federal class action lawsuit that accuses them along with the online gambling platform Steak Dot. I'm not even going to finish saying then it's going to be a promo of promoting what plaintiffs allege was an illegal gambling operation and using its proceeds to artificially inflate Drake's music streaming numbers. Is that real? Listen, I think we found when Drake sued Kendrick that basically he was the thing he was alleging Kendrick was doing. He basically told on himself that his at least music company was his lab, his label was doing. Now, I don't know if it's directly connected to Steak. That wouldn't surprise me. I will just say Steak put its GD logo on any viral video for, like a long period of time. Anytime I watched anything that I was like, damn, this is a crazy video. You would just see in the corner that it's their logo and it's just because brain rot. They're just trying to get into your brain. And it clearly was working. When do we find out what happened with that?

[C]

Never. Because there's no consequences for anything.

[A]

Nobody gets in any sort of trouble at all. I don't.

[C]

I mean, even Steak seems to pale in comparison. I don't want to say her name. But you. You've seen the one service now that it's found a loophole that calls itself a predictions market.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So now you could. They're just.

[A]

Where you can legally predict. You can. What do they. What's the word they use that you can legally Predict in all 50 states? And you're like, well, that sounds like a loophole in gambling, Brady. I'm glad you brought that up. I have so many of those ads downloaded and saved to my phone to someday turn into some content where I yell about how annoying and illegal it seems.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You can wager. I'm on their website right now. You can wager on what. What words will mom Donnie say during his next. Next press conference? I'm like, this can't be a thing.

[A]

And also if it is a thing, it can't. It needs to be separate from sports. You can't also use that to do sports that seems obviously not. Not all 50 states have legalized gambling. So I don't. I get so stressed out. This stuff stresses me out so bad because people are economically things are tough for a lot of people right now and I just feel like this stuff positions itself as like a cure all and it scares me. Did you see that? Carly Ursay Gordon's Year end press conference Comments Brady, you've been on the fence about this woman. You said we only liked her because she gets fits off on the sideline and she does. And we said that we just like a hands on person inheriting a business from their more successful parent and then actually taking it serious as a business and getting their boots on the ground and getting in there and trying to learn the thing from the ground up. So where do you stand? I guess should we play the clip of Carly Ursay Gordon's first year end press conference after the Colts disappointing 8 and 9 season I'm gonna. I'm gonna raise my hand and take issue with because I feel like they started so hot, the Colts 7 and 1 and it was crazy. Nobody expected it. But I also don't think there was ever a point where people went and they're gonna ride this all the way through to the end. And as soon as one of the wheels kind of fell off once Daniel Jones, who's always been one of the greatest quarterbacks alive, once he went down and you had to call in 44 year old Philip Rivers for a couple games, I don't think anybody was like if they don't make it, this is really disappointing. But hey, that's just me. Here is what she had to say in her year end press conference. You're right to be frustrated with how the latter part of our season went. I'm pissed. We are all pissed. Even though we didn't get the results we expected, I'm confident in what we're building and how we're building it. We have been very clear with Chris and Shane that giving them another opportunity means that the sense of urgency for them to deliver and perform has never been higher. Ultimately though, I am responsible for our team's performance and the promise that we made to be the best.

[C]

Fitz be damned. I'm running through a wall for this woman.

[A]

I mean she is for those that aren't in I assume that's is it Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen, that's the GM and the head coach that she is referring to there calls them out by name, holds them, says basically says I'm holding these guys feet to the fire. They know what's expected of them and then right after goes. But at the end of the day, it's my job and I need to make sure that we're the team that we purport ourselves to be. I love that. I like that, too. I think this is. I think this is good. And also never heard her voice. Very soothing. Yeah, soothing. And I would use another word, but I don't want to. I don't want to be inappropriate, but I think it's. She's got a nice voice. I like listening to it. So that's Brady. You're finally in.

[C]

I'm in. I'm so in.

[A]

And you wanted to just say sorry a couple more times for doubting her and I'm sorry. That's one Carly.

[C]

Or say Gordon, I'm sorry, Colts fans, I'm sorry, women in general, for doubting one of you.

[A]

That's so perfect. Thank you so much. Okay, guys, that's. That's it, right?

[B]

That's it.

[A]

That's the podcast. Thank you so much for listening. Huge thanks to Colin Quinn and to you, our dear listeners, and thank you for your emails. Chris has put those in a special little folder that I don't have to worry about, but that he will. Then they'll come back. We'll get to them when we get to them. If you want to. Don't forget, if you want to reach out to us, you can email us. Casuals with katienolanmail.com Our voicemail 646-801-0043 I should have given that number to Colin Quinn so that when he has a take he can call in, leave a voicemail, and then we can just play it. And then that's what I should have done. I'll get it to him on IG and TikTok. We are CasualsThePodcast. Thank you for listening. We love you, we mean it and we will see you back here next time week. Bye. For delicious meals, you could go out.

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