Isabella (13:55)

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Isabella (14:10)

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Your DSW store or dsw.com it's Super bowl week. Not a lot of big game based headlines for the super bowl this year. Fun reminder if you if it hasn't been drilled into your brain. We got the Kansas City Chiefs playing the Philadelphia Eagles. It's on Sunday. It's at what, what time do they start these things? 6:36? Yeah, it's, you know, hopefully you guys have a. You've got plans, you got a party you're going to, or maybe you're sitting at home watching it. We have a little game we've cooked up for you. If you don't have something fun necessarily to do that day, we, we've got you covered. Because Casuals is all about getting people into sports. Because sports is for everyone. Sorry, I'm not going to keep harping on this. Sports is for everyone. So we're going to. We've got you. We've got something to make it entertaining for you if you didn't think it would be otherwise. But let's start with the storyline I find the most interesting in the lead up to a Super bowl featuring a Kansas City Chiefs team that many fans believe to be the recipients of favorable calls from the refs. The NFL Referees association decided that the move is to release a statement admonishing fans for using their eyes to see. I guess they said in a statement released on Tuesday. It is insulting and preposterous to hear conspiracy theories that somehow 17 officiating crews consisting of 138 officials are colluding to assist one team. Now Executive director Scott Green, I'm going to let you finish there, but is that I, I believe you that it's preposterous. I believe you that you're offended and I get how it would be offensive. But if I may, throwing out numbers there is not helping your case. If you told me I got 138 people. There's no way I could possibly get them to work together. I'd be like, well, I don't know. That's.138 is not that many people. It's not like we're talking about thousands. It's not like we're talking about a couple hundred. It's not even a hundred and a half. It's 138. You could get 138 people on the same page for something, especially if that something is like, don't be mean to this guy. A lot of people, like, analyzed how many times the Chiefs were given a call that, like, converted a third down and, like, gave them a first down, like, in a pivotal moment. And it was a lot. I know Nick Wright, big Kansas City Chiefs fan and sports media has been yelling about how this isn't true and he doesn't get the calls. And I also know this was a narrative about Tom Brady for a long time, that as a Patriots fan, I cannot come to that from, like, a neutral place. I obviously was biased, and I thought everybody was being mean to Tom, actually. But it does seem like this has caught on in the media. I've said this last week. I said this about basketball stuff, that trade that happened behind closed doors. We are too conspiratorially minded right now. You cannot throw stuff like this out and think we're all just going to accept it for what it is. Everything's up for debate. Every question, everything. At this point, you can. We were allowed to. This is what was voted for. This is where we live. Anything can be true if you just get enough people to say it. So the refs need to be aware of that. But if you're. My question is to you, Chris Isabella, anybody who feels like saying anything, if you're going to put out a statement right before. First of all, right before the super bowl is wild, you'd hope it's a more effective statement that sort of backs up what you're trying to say, maybe provides examples of times that a call wasn't made or that. But instead it's just like, stop being mean to us. It would be impossible for 138 of us who can fit probably on one email chain to. To. To work together on something.

Chris (18:32)

If this.

Katie Nolan (18:34)

All of.

Chris (18:35)

All of. All of this coming together, right, the week of the super bowl, all of this media attention on the NFL refs, and, you know, this statement coming out, whether this actually helps the Eagles, right. Other refs, if they didn't collude against the Chiefs, for the Chiefs during this run, Are they going to be really conscious about that? And actually, sort of, whether consciously or subconsciously, all these 50, 50 calls go against the Chiefs because they're so worried about the perception being that they go towards the teams.

Katie Nolan (19:04)

No, I wish. I w. It feels like you put out this statement so that when you make a call in favor of Patrick Mahomes during the super bowl, you can be like, it was just the right call. There's. I wish. I wish it worked that way. Where you're like, oh, they hear us. So maybe what that means is they're going to be so worried about doing it that they do the opposite of that. I doubt it.

Chris (19:28)

That's just what they want us to think. Maybe.

Katie Nolan (19:30)

I mean, 138 people, that's like two football teams. It's like a. That's a. This is easily. I don't know. Am I nuts? It just feels like that number they tossed out being like, really? You think we could do that? There's 138 of us. Like, yeah, right. Also, look, you never know what people don't know, right? So in these conspiracy theories where they're like, these refs are all working together, they might not know that the NFL Referees association even exists. So by putting out a statement on behalf of the NFL Referees association, you're at least admitting you have meetings. You're at least admitting that 138 of you got together and agreed on this statement. So just feels like interesting info to provide to people. You're trying to say, look, we don't all talk. The guy in charge of us all talking is putting out a statement saying that our group meeting couldn't possibly have been about the Chiefs. I don't know. We'll see. I'm sure it will be. The number one thing talked about going into the Super Bowl. And I just hope we can all identify the difference between, like, a substantial call that was probably the right one, but does still have big implications and, like, the wrong call having giant implications. Those are always the ones that bug me the most, where you're like, well, that's not definitive. And. And it's going to change the course of the game. So, boy, boy, boy, can't wait to see what happens.

Isabella (21:03)

Quick perspective. How does someone. How does someone who's a casual fan, doesn't know anything about calls know that these calls are even, like, bad or, like, people that are, like, you know, controversial?

Katie Nolan (21:13)

Okay, this is a good. A good question. When there's a call. Look around you look to your friends, ask anybody around you who might know and then just kind of follow what they do. Just get involved in it. Get mad. One of the best things, one of my favorite chirps you can do at a ref, which is especially safe if you're home because they can't hear you, is get off of your knees, ref, you're blowing the game. That's one of the, I think one of the more popular ones.

Isabella (21:38)

Really?

Katie Nolan (21:38)

Yeah.

Isabella (21:39)

Like people say that. Yeah.

Katie Nolan (21:40)

Well, it depends on where you were raised, but where I come from, yes, that was often said.

Isabella (21:46)

And is this, this is specifically like football. Like, do people say that?

Katie Nolan (21:49)

No, no, no, no. That's across the board. I've said it at a high lie. That's a sport where you whip a ball real fast. It's. Anyway, okay, that's mostly the. That's. So that's how that's going to work, I think. I think we set you up to succeed there. I think you're going to have a great time. Speaking of guys who got all the calls, Fox color commentator and Las Vegas Raiders minority owner Tom Brady will have some of his broadcasting related restrictions lifted this weekend for Fox's super bowl coverage. Tom Brady, not his first super bowl that he's been to, obviously, but his first super bowl that he's calling in the booth. For those who don't know, when you broadcast a game, there is more to the gig than just being in the booth and talking while the game happens. You watch practices, you meet with players, you meet with coaches, you, you know, you gather intel about the game so that you can speak from an informed position on the game. Tom Brady, when he signed this contract with Fox to get in the booth, it was a 10 year, $375 million contract. He signed it in May of 2022 while he was still playing with the Tampa Bay Bucks. A chapter I've deleted from my memory, but it does still stay in the history books. Then he took a year, then he retired, he took a year off. And then this year was his first year of that 10 year contract. This is his first Super Bowl. In October, he was approved as a minority owner of the Las Vegas Raiders. And so throughout the 2024 season, because of that, because you own a team, it's a conflict of interest. And therefore he was restricted from going to the other team's facilities, attending other teams practices. He was not allowed to participate in production meetings with coaches or players or executives of any of the team whose game he's calling. So about 70% of the gig that he gets paid $375 million to do, he couldn't do because now he owns the Raiders. The news this week is that they're lifting some of those restrictions for one week only. Tom Brady will be able to meet with players and coaches from both teams as part of production meetings. What? I don't. This doesn't make any sense to me. This is one of those things that I guess we just go like. And that's how it is. Because I don't think I would do a very good job of working with a guy who doesn't have to do half the job. Like, I. When I was a waitress, I used to feel guilty, but I would still do it, of being like, can you do my silverware roll ups for me? I just don't. My hands. Ow. I just don't. My nail. I just got my nails done. Can you roll the silverware for me? And that is not even close to this. This is like the. The main part of the job is knowing the teams, knowing the players, knowing the personnel, being able to speak to them about where they're coming from. And he couldn't do it, but this week he can. Brady, I mean. Chris, are you excited to hear the sort of insights that Tom Brady can bring this week now that he's able to meet with the coaches?

Chris (25:06)

No.

Katie Nolan (25:07)

No. Have you enjoyed Tom Brady as a commentator this season?

Chris (25:12)

I haven't listened to a lot of him, to be honest. I've heard some not so good things. I know you mentioned last week or earlier this week. I can't remember when it was, that he was getting better.

Katie Nolan (25:20)

Yeah.

Chris (25:21)

And I think a lot of the. The games that I had heard him were earlier on in the season.

Katie Nolan (25:26)

Yeah.

Chris (25:27)

So I haven't really experienced the. The Brady 2.0. The. The better version of Brady.

Katie Nolan (25:33)

Sure.

Chris (25:34)

So I don't know how much better he has been.

Katie Nolan (25:36)

Yeah. It is funny. You do sort of have to say the quiet part out loud in order for this to matter, which is that, like, they're never really saying anything any. Like the coaches aren't really saying anything anyway. The players aren't really going to give you much anyway. It doesn't really add. It doesn't take away. It's. The whole thing's kind of a ruse. But $375 million is a lot of money and the stakes are high. But listen, if anybody's gonna be able to step up and impress people in a Super bowl, that they count him out, it's Tom Brady. So I think people will Be fine. I also think people will pick it apart, even if it's. Even if. If anybody else had been doing it, it would be fine and passable. But Tom Brady doing it is just like a specific brand of annoying to a lot of people because of the pain that Tom Brady. It's like, making me not look forward to the Patrick Mahomes in the booth era. I really don't. I'd like to get out ahead of this and say, please, let's not. Could we not, please.

Isabella (26:39)

Is there a quarterback that is likable?

Katie Nolan (26:42)

Oh, good question. I like plenty of quarterbacks.

Isabella (26:44)

I'm not coming at you. Just I feel like I hear like, you know, not from you specifically, but from generally the sports.

Katie Nolan (26:51)

I think the thing is the winningness. I think it's the winning. I think a quarterback that's not a threat is probably the most likable. You know, Lamar Jackson's really likable. I think Jalen Hurts is likable. I think Kirk Cousins had a little moment there. People really liked him. Any. I can like anybody, and I love everybody.

Isabella (27:15)

Let me see if I have a good guess. Is, like, Josh Allen likable? Yeah, he looks likable.

Katie Nolan (27:20)

Yeah. I think. I think with Patrick Mahomes, it's how often we're seeing him, how un. How he's surrounded by a lot of people who are. What's the right way to say? Controversial. Yeah, they're just like, you know, he's got a couple people in his orbit that you're like, all right with this guy and the tick tocks on the field, like, it's okay with this. And he also has just caused a lot of pain. So a lot of it is just projection. A lot of it is like, I don't want to hear from you. You've done nothing but cause pain in my life. Please leave me alone. And I just feel like, you know, Tom Brady made a ton of money and was. Had a ton of success as a football player immediately into a ton of money. And 10 years is a long contract for calling it. For being in a booth. So that's success. You can call that success right away, whether he's good at it or not. And owner of a team. It's like, how much are we gonna let. How much money are you allowed to make off of one thing for how long? You know, like, enough is enough. Go. Giselle had a baby. That's unrelated. Apropos of nothing, Giselle had a baby. Congratulations to Giselle on her new baby. Good for you. I hope everybody's happy, healthy, and living their lives. I bet she didn't even watch the super bowl this week. Okay. Billionaire Patriots owner Robert Kraft seems to think that Brady cannot just win Super Bowls and call Super Bowls, but that he can use the super bowl to end anti Semitism. Crafts foundation took. Oh, it's sorry. This is his foundation. It's called foundation to combat Anti Semitism. It's releasing a Super bowl ad. This is the second year in a row they've done that. They did this last year as well. This year's ad is called no Reason to Hate. It features entertainer Snoop Dogg and Kraft's longtime friend and former quarterback Tom Brady. I'll describe it visually for our audio listeners before we hit play here. It's a shot of Snoop staring down the barrel and then it cuts to a shot of Tom Brady staring down the barrel. And then at one point we get a wide shot where they're looking at each other and that's it. So that's all that's happening visually. They're in some sort of nondescript warehouse. It's probably AI definitely green screen. Let's take a listen to no reason to Hate. I hate you because we from different neighborhoods. I hate you because you look different. I hate you because I don't understand you. I hate you because people I know hate you. You. I hate you because I think you hate me. Cuz I need someone to blame. Cuz you talk different. Cuz you act different. Cuz you're just different. The reasons for hate are as stupid as they sound. Man. I hate that things are so bad that we have to do a commercial about it. Me too. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.

Chris (30:18)

That Me Too by Brady is hilarious.

Katie Nolan (30:20)

Oh my God. Let me start by saying I. I too am anti. Anti Semitism. Okay, I'd like to be clear. There is no reason to hate. I think hate is bad. I think any type of hate against any. Okay, that is so crazy. The fact that A, you think Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady are the two best people to deliver this message to me. The fact that B, they break the fourth wall there after the. I guess the conceit is at first you're yelling stuff at each other that is more self aware than anybody who's participating in this hate would actually be. Right? No one's ever saying I hate you because actually I think you hate me. That's not what they're saying. They're saying slurs and angry things and threats. They're not self aware of why they're hating. I am going to make a bold guess based in no facts but my own lived experience. Those two men not in the same room together. This commercial, this such important commercial in which we stand up to hate that Snoop Dogg in one studio, Tom Brady in another studio, speaking to probably stand ins pretending to be Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady, respectively. What? That ain't it. I again, love that a foundation against anti Semitism exists. I think we've got a lot of work to do in terms of tampering down hate and reminding people about love. But I just don't feel like this does it. Am I wrong? Please, somebody. If this worked on you, Chris Isabella, did this inspire in you some new sort of passion against hatred?

Chris (32:09)

I was too distracted with Tom Brady's acting, to be honest.

Katie Nolan (32:11)

Yeah, that's the.

Chris (32:12)

That was. That was just. Man, that was bad. Snoop's not so good, by the way. But I think when, you know, you're acting across from Tom Brady, in this instance, we all forget about, or at least I forgot about how bad Snoop was in the ad, because Tom's just, like, hilariously atrocious. Especially that line at the end. Man, it gets me so bad.

Katie Nolan (32:34)

I hate. I hate that people are mean. Me too. Like, oh, nobody looks.

Isabella (32:40)

They're giving, like, eye contact like this.

Katie Nolan (32:42)

Don't smolder while you tell me not to hate. Okay, maybe we don't smolder. Maybe we don't smize like it was. That is. I love that. It's called no reason to hate. Because that is. They gave me one. That's it. That stinks. I'd rather just have Robert Kraft be like, hey, be nice to Jews. And then we cut to the next commercial. What is this? Okay, fun game time. We told you that if you're going to be watching the super bowl and you want something to keep you entertained for it, we were going to give you that. And it's not a. We're not reinventing a wheel. It's. It's bingo. We've got a bingo board. What more fun way to watch something that you sort of understand or are trying to care about and then to give yourself a board of things to look for and follow along and then maybe potentially win. Do we have prizes? No. We'll give you guys the board if you want a nice casuals themed bingo board, but you got to write them in yourselves because that's the point of bingo. Everybody's board has to be different. And we just got a list of things here of things that we might see happen in the super bowl that we're looking for this weekend. Let's just go through some examples. Mahomes gets gifted a call. I think we've covered that extensively. Maybe we see it, maybe we don't. Maybe the refs were right. Maybe we're nuts. A cutaway of an emotional fan. You can almost always depend on that in the Super Bowl. Taylor Swift dancing. We know earlier this year she invented the swag surf. Or was that last season when everybody acted like they'd never seen that move before because she was the first to ever do it. Kendrick Lamar plays Not like us. That one's pretty specific. He did say they were gonna do it, so probably will do it. So it's kind of like a free space. You can put anywhere you want. But we'll be keeping an eye on it. A Lil Wayne appearance. Now let's decide. Does this mean in the halftime show or does showing him in the crowd count?

Chris (34:43)

I think he's got to be participating in the halftime show. I think that's what it's going to be.

Katie Nolan (34:47)

Alright. I think showing him in the crowd counts.

Chris (34:51)

You're being very lenient here.

Katie Nolan (34:52)

I know because I feel like I'm all over the place today. I feel like I'm being too harsh on people for certain things. So in the world of bayonet Lil.

Chris (35:00)

Wayne at all, at all. Tick that box.

Isabella (35:02)

If you watch the super bowl, you win.

Katie Nolan (35:04)

Right? Good. That's. Check that box. A 30 plus yard saquon run. That's football. That's the sport playing on the field. That's the most football. I think these get a mention of the reverse hurdle. That was the thing that Michael Jr. Brought up for us on our episode earlier this week. It's the. The craziest move that Saquon pulled in a. In a year of crazy. In a crazy year for him. So we'll see if they mention it or if they play it. A streaker. Everybody's favorite when somebody takes off their clothes and runs across the the field. Now it's worth noting to somebody who isn't aware they will not be showing this on tv. It is even when they keep their clothes on. The standard for the booth is to not talk about it and for the cameras not to show it. I'm anti this. I think you should show it. I think their goal is to not encourage you to do it. Don't want to give people a little moment of fame for streaking. I feel like you're going to get tackled and tackles are sports. And if I can see a naked person get tackled. Why are you not showing me that? It's your job, Fox, to show me all the sports that happen on that field. So we won't see it, but you'll know the cameras will go somewhere weird and they'll sound like they're distracting you. That'll be a streaker. We'll call it out so that you can mark.

Isabella (36:23)

Does that regularly happen?

Katie Nolan (36:24)

Yes.

Isabella (36:25)

Because when I saw that on the list, I was like, no way. That's definitely a football term. No way that she's talking about someone streaking.

Katie Nolan (36:32)

No, that's it. Every time there's. It's. Look, Isabella, it's the most watched event, you know, on tv. It's one of the only things we all gather round and watch together now. And so I think there's been a streaker at the last few Super Bowls. That's how my memory is. It's probably wrong, but emotionally, that's true. To me, there's always a streaker.

Isabella (36:54)

We had a.

Katie Nolan (36:55)

A streaker that didn't take his clothes off. So just like a guy on the field at a baseball game. I called and I. And I called the street. I called it. I called the hit. It felt like sports to me. And then I got a stern talking to about it. So anyway, it's streaker. Okay, here's one. Square. Travis Kelsey proposes to Taylor Swift. This will probably happen after the game, if it happens at all. But that counts for us. Also, separate square. Taylor Swift proposes to Travis Kelsey. Tom Brady mentions one of his old Patriots teams. That's absolutely going to happen. But it's important to note Tom Brady has to mention it because I bet his co workers will bring it up. But he's got to mention it in order to fill that square. We are witnessing history. That phrase. If you hear that phrase, check tush push. Casual fans may not know this is something that the Eagles famously do. They like to call it the brotherly shove, but you will not catch me doing that. It's a tush push. And I know tush push sounds embarrassing. I think the name of this particular football move should embarrass you. It will encourage you to do it less. But when there's a couple like a yard. Isabella, that they've got a gain when it's a small distance that they need to go right, they just push the quarterback. They push him up. A couple other teams do it. I think the Bills did it. When the Bills did it, they would always go to the same side, and it was pretty strange. It didn't work as well, but the Eagles are very good at it and people love to talk about it. So if we hear tush push or you see a tush push, which absolutely, you might as well mark that one. That's gotta happen. If that doesn't happen, I'll eat my shoe. And it's a big shoe. Clearly AI commercial. We saw a couple of those last year. Very depressing, very bleak, very dark. Clearly AI commercial. Probably from like Teemu or what was the last big sporting event we all watched because that had an AI college football national championship. Yeah, the AI Coke commercial, Coca Cola. They did their like usual, the trucks with all the Coke and the polar bears, but it was AI bleak. So I'm sure we'll see more of that. Can't wait. He gets us. That's Jesus. For those who aren't in the know, Jesus has. Jesus is loaded because the last few, like divisional rounds and on of like any sporting event has had a commercial for Jesus. Hegets us dot com. The super bowl won last year, you may remember, was like Jesus washing people's or it's like people washing other people's feet. Nobody liked it. It was off putting again another commercial. We're like, I'm with y'all on the message. I get the love thy neighbor, but I just don't know what a an effective commercial for Jesus looks like. And all that makes me do when I see he gets us is I'm like, where does he get the funding? Where's the money coming from to buy these incredibly expensive ad buys? I don't know. Maybe Pablo Torre will find out next. One sideline reporter mentions Brady in a sideline report. I thought for this to be on our bingo card because from watching a lot of Brady games this year, boy, oh boy, does this Fox team love to mention Brady in there. Like, you know, I talked to Andy Reid at the half and he said the team needs to make a lot of adjustments. But like Tom Brady's teams always did, it's those second half adjustments. Tom Brady's name just comes up across the broadcast because they're so happy to have him there, but they're so ingratiated to him in a way that you're like, he's just supposed to be your co worker. So if they mention Tom Brady in one of their reports, mark a square and then text me because I feel like, let me know, I'll be excited. I'll be fired up about it at whatever party I'm at. Paul Rudd. If we see Paul Rudd, the world's most famous Kansas City Chiefs fan drink and then also mark one of your squares. Jackson Mahomes TikTok. This is Patrick Mahomes brother who makes dancing tiktoks. To clarify this one, if we see him on the sideline making a TikTok or if you encounter the TikTok during the timeframe of the super bowl, that counts. Granted you gotta be looking for it, but how bad do you want this win? Trump. That's it. We're gonna see him. They're gonna just trump when it happens. Market player does a snow angel in the confetti. That's most likely going to be after the game. Another confetti related one. This happens more in basketball, but maybe you put it on your board, maybe you're feeling like it if confetti starts to fall early. Always a fun visual gag when you just see like three little bits of confetti and you're like, oh, that's green. That's not. We're not there yet. We don't know who wins. Would be a fascinating interview to get the people in charge of the confetti ops at a student at a stadium and see how that they have two different things loaded with the different colors. Is it all in the same? Do they. How does that work? We'll find out later. Right now we're playing bingo. Bradley Cooper, if we see him, Eagles fan, missed field goal or extra point. Any kicking that's supposed to go through those uprights, that doesn't go through those uprights, that's that a safety. That's always fun. Two points, a two point score, that's a thing. You know the refs will do this. That means safety, innuendo. This one's kind of open to interpretation. This is where we can have a little bit of fun with your bingo board. Any sort of phrase from the booth like penetration of the backfield or they're really pounding it in there. Coach covers their mouth with like a comically large menu looking item while calling a play. That will happen. So free square for you. A Taylor Swift pun. If anybody who talks during the game makes some sort of a pun using one of her song names, one of her album titles and they then I'm sure pat themselves on the back about it for three minutes. Bingo. Ref mic malfunction. Famously, all the time a ref will go to say something and the mic's not on. Love those. A cutaway to a fan sign Mardi Gras beads because we're in New Orleans or a shot of Bourbon Street Sports loves nothing more than to show you one spot in a city and tell you that that's where they are. It's like throwing fish in Seattle. It's just. They're going to show you Bourbon Street. It's just a matter of when. And you gotta pay attention. That's it. We can add more. If you guys have ideas that you think are good that we should add to our bingo board, you can send them to us on social media. We are at CasualsThePodcast. CasualsThePodcast. You can email them to us, you can call us. You can. I mean, do whatever you want, truly. But it's just something to bring us all together and then we can talk about if anybody got bingo. Isabella, you're the only prediction I want. So before we move on from the super bowl, who's going to win? And then what's the score going to be?

Isabella (44:30)

Okay. It's going to be okay. It's going to be. The Chiefs are going to win, and the score is going to be 36 to 29.

Katie Nolan (44:47)

Okay, 36 to 29. Is that a score of Army? It's not, is it?

Chris (44:52)

Yes, it would. It would be a score. Gummy, huh?

Isabella (44:55)

What does that mean?

Katie Nolan (44:56)

It's a score that's never been the final score of a football game before. So something crazy, like, it's possible. Anything's possible.

Isabella (45:05)

It's usually a score of a football game.

Katie Nolan (45:07)

Well, it's like touchdown with an extra point is seven points. So it's usually like. Like three sevens would be. What's that? 21. So like 21 or a. A field goal is three points, so it'd be like 24. Then you'd go, oh, it was three touchdowns and a field goal. But the. But because of things like safeties and because of missed extra points and because you can go for two, you can have any combination of things that any number really can happen.

Isabella (45:34)

Yeah.

Katie Nolan (45:35)

This one would just. Has never happened before. And listen, we've had score gummies of Super Bowls, I want to say, within the recent years. Like, new scores happen all the time. It's not a bad pick, and it's entirely possible. And I'll tell you what, Isabella, if it happens, this is your podcast now. Really quick. Other stuff is also happening. Jimmy Butler. Remember we were talking about Jimmy Butler in the Miami Heat, not knowing what was going to happen. Jimmy Butler had been suspended a bunch of times after saying that he didn't want to be here. He's been traded to the Golden State warriors in exchange for Andrew Wiggins, Kyle Anderson in a protected first round pick. Go look up everybody at home. The video of the Heat finding out about it on the bench. It's very funny. Kevin Love asking a fan for the details of like what year the pick is. Is, is very funny. The other funny part about this is obviously everybody knew Jimmy Butler was going to go. The trade deadline is today. By the time you're listening to this podcast, it will have passed. So trading is over. Everybody's pretty locked in now. There was another big trade with like the Pelicans that I, we just don't have time to talk about. A lot happened but yesterday when this Jimmy Butler trade was going through, it was in like warm ups for the, the Golden State game and Steve Kerr made the media all leave the locker room and then called back all the players that were out on the floor warming up to have this closed door team meeting. And so there was all this suspicion and everybody was like, I bet something's happening. And I saw a tweet where somebody was trying to read into the body language of when Steve Kerr left that meeting where he told them that Jimmy Butler would be joining their team. He had his head hung down, he was looking down at the ground and he looked dejected. And body, body experts, body language experts could say that it really showed that he wasn't happy with the, the pick. And I just want to say, like, let's not forget that people are humans. As a human, I look at that and I see it as like we were about to play a game with a bunch of guys who have been on my team and I have to go let them know that they're not going to play right now. They have to go, they don't go here anymore. And I don't care what your job is. That's a difficult conversation to have. Any sort of like, hey, like, I don't know, five minutes earlier he might have been like, hey, Andrew Wiggins, tonight we're going to work on your, on your shooting in this way. And then now all of a sudden that guy doesn't even go here anymore. That's just a, a difficult and emotional thing to do. So let's not read too much into like, everybody's mad about Jimmy Butler. I don't know. You just don't know. While we're talking about people who took forever to sign somewhere and do something, Pete Alonso is signing with the Mets. That took long enough. I think it's a two year deal. It's for a whole lot of money. Initially, I think they had offered him a longer deal. He didn't take that. He's more interested in this one. So Pete Alonzo, Mets fans, you got him back, the polar bear. And while you're looking up videos, why don't you look up that video of when polar bear tried to slide into home plate and just absolutely ate it. That could make you laugh heading into your weekend. There's a video I recommend for you. Other news, unrivaled. We've talked about them a bunch. That is the new women's 3v3 basketball league. Last week they announced that they are doing this inaugural 1v1 tournament that will feature three of the league's athletes. One on one, 30. Sorry. That's. Sorry, you're right.

Chris (49:00)

That would not be a particularly big tournament.

Katie Nolan (49:01)

At least it'd be over quick. You know that's true. 30 of the league's athletes competing for $350,000. And they yesterday revealed the tournament bracket. It was voted on by fans. Right. Chris, you know all the details for this. Let me take a break from talking and you download us on the details on this.

Chris (49:18)

So the way that these games will be played, contests will be played to either a winning score of 11 points or a 10 minute game clock, whichever comes first.

Katie Nolan (49:27)

Okay.

Chris (49:28)

So either you get to 11 points within that 10 minutes. If no one gets to that 11 points within that 10 minute space, it's I guess whoever's in the lead at that stage. Each matchup will follow the traditional 2 and 3 point scoring format but with a shortened 7 second shot clock. So they only have 7 seconds to shoot it. It's going to be very fast paced.

Katie Nolan (49:45)

Yeah.

Chris (49:46)

And the biggest difference from both traditional 5x5 play and the unrivaled 3x3 format is 1v1's contests make it take it rule which rewards scoring with both points on the board as well as continued ball possession. So I'm guessing this means if you make it, you get to keep the ball. It'll tip up, tip off on February 10th. You can watch that tournament on TNT, TruTV and Max, this sounds fascinating.

Katie Nolan (50:13)

It's fascinating watching basketball have less and less people on the court. 3v3 leads and then a 1v1 league. What if we just did a Novi note? What if everyone just sat? What if everyone just sat and ate food?

Chris (50:27)

It's. It's sort of like how cricket in Australia is gradually getting shorter and shorter. Started off as five days, then it got to one day and now we've got. I'm so over cricket.

Katie Nolan (50:36)

I'm so glad you brought the reference that we all had in our minds.

Chris (50:39)

That Australia we've had emails asking about cricket. So there's, there's an audience out there.

Katie Nolan (50:43)

Oh yeah. Um, good news that I just want to say before we move on. The National Women's soccer league, the NWSL has to pay $5 million in restitution to abuse victims. Uh, it was found that they violated players civil rights and they got to pay that money after a years long investigation of player abuse. It's a, a big story. It's, it feel. It felt like today's episode has been a lot of like heavy, kind of sad, kind of weird bad. And I didn't want to send us off into the super bowl with just like all this heavy bad. Ideally with this podcast I only ever wanted to focus on the funny. But I do feel like I gotta, you know, address certain things which is how we got to where we are. So I just did want to make sure people knew that. This is a historic settlement. It's been settled. The money will be paid out. Justice is being served. Hallelu. Google it. If you would like the, the, the details. We gotta get into our mailbag. So Chris, you have been keeping an eye on our email and our voicemail and you picked one of each that you liked the most that we'll answer now.

Chris (51:54)

All right, so this is from Brandon. Brandon asks or Brandon says. Hi Katie and crew. This podcast has been great. It's become my new thing to listen to while walking my corgis every day. I wanted to see if anyone has been watching the new celebrity Jeopardy competition that's currently airing and to see if Katie has any stories to share from her time in last year's tournament. It served as my introduction to Katie as she quickly became the competitor that I was rooting for.

Katie Nolan (52:18)

Oh, thank you, Brandon. And your corgis named. Do we know their names?

Chris (52:24)

Theo and Ellie.

Katie Nolan (52:25)

We do. Theo and Ellie. Oh, shout out to you guys. Um, I didn't think that I got anybody from Celebrity Jeopardy. So I'm glad to hear somebody's here from Celebrity Jeopardy. Uh, have I been watching it this year? Not yet. I've been really tied up in. We are in like the tournament season of Jeopardy. So there was the second chance tournament and there was the wild card, I feel like tournament. And then now we're in the. I don't remember what they call it. Sorry, Michael Davies, executive producer of Celebrity Jeopardy. But there's like, this is their big like all the tournament of champions, I think is what it's called just because you brought it up. I wasn't gonna say anything. But the winner of Celebrity Jeopardy last year, the year that I competed, was Lisa Ann Walters from the. From a bunch of stuff. You might know her from Parent Trap or you might know her from Abbott Elementary. Wonderful woman. Was awesome to see her get the win. And she got invited to the Tournament of Champions, much like Ike Barinholtz the season before. Because it's like the winner of these different tournaments gets an invite. And the winner of Celebrity Jeopardy. Michael Davies decided would get invited to Tournament of Champions. I. I knew that going in, so I had already got ahead of myself and was like, if I were to win Celebrity Jeopardy. Would I even go on Tournament of Champions? Like, it's Celebrity Jeopardy. Is regular Jeopardy. Turned down. Makes it a little easier. And Tournament of Champions is like regular Jeopardy. Turned up a little bit. It's not turned up all the way. That's Masters. The hardest one is Jeopardy. Masters because it's all the people who have won the most ever, minus Ken, cuz he has to host it now competing against each other. But Tournament of Champions is like the best people of the year competing against each other. So they make it a little bit harder. So it would have been a jump from Celebrity Jeopardy to Tournament of Champions. I don't know that I would have done it anyway. But Lisa Ann Walter couldn't do it. She had to back out at the last minute, and they replaced her spa. Don't you think. Don't you think that they should replace her with the person with the next celebrity? With the celebrity who came in second? Now, to be clear, that's not me. That's Mo Rocca. Morocca came in second. Your girl came in third. I risked it all in a final Jeopardy. I did not know the answer to. I had to do it. But if Mo Rocca had said no, then I think they would. Instead, they gave it to a contestant I really, really like. I think his name's Drew, he's blonde, he's from Hawaii. He's electric. He had a moment. Isabella, I'll find a video and show it to you. Because I don't know if you're in, if you're a Jeopardy. Girl, but you'll love this. He had, like, a moment where he was talking about how he drilled himself on Taylor Swift because originally he got some Taylor Swift stuff wrong. And then in that episode, he got a Taylor Swift question and he got, like, so excited and he got it right. Same thing happened about Celine Dion. He mentioned her and Then he got a Celine Dion question. He's great tv. I love Drew. This isn't against Drew, okay? I just think if that seed is occupied by the winner of Celebrity Jeopardy. And Celebrity Jeopardy. Winner can't make it. Chris, Am I wrong? Is that crazy? Don't you think they should give it to the next celebrity?

Chris (55:47)

Makes sense to me. Otherwise, what's the point of coming second?

Katie Nolan (55:49)

And. And, and, yes. Right. So anyway, that's the. As for behind the scenes stuff, I. Jeopardy. Rules. It was the coolest thing I've ever done in my life. It sucks to know my life has.

Isabella (56:02)

Peaked, but I actually have a question I would like to know. Yeah, okay.

Katie Nolan (56:06)

So for. Can you ask it in the form of a.

Isabella (56:08)

Okay.

Katie Nolan (56:09)

I can't just ask it.

Isabella (56:11)

Okay. You know, how. What is. Is it. Is it Final Jeopardy. Where you write in.

Katie Nolan (56:16)

Yeah.

Isabella (56:16)

Yeah. So is it like a screen? Like. Like a stylus?

Katie Nolan (56:20)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Isabella (56:21)

That's so cool.

Katie Nolan (56:22)

And they have you write before you even know you write what is at the top. Or they'll come over and tell you if it should say, like, who is or where is. They'll tell you so that you write it in so that you don't forget. Because in Final Jeopardy, you've got only a certain amount of time. If you're me, you're sweating. You're sweating and your brain is thinking through every possibility. And then you're also thinking, don't write down an answer that's so wrong, you look like an idiot. That was my biggest fear with, like, that they'd say something happened in a year, and I would pick something that happened, like, centuries before or after it. And that then they'd have to go, like, Ken usually does the. Like, not exactly the right timing on that. Like, he says something to try to make you feel better, but you're thinking so much that you would probably forget to write what is. And then they would have to take it away from you. So, yes, it's a stylus. They help you write it down so that you don't screw up. And do you write, like, the answer.

Isabella (57:22)

And then the number? You bet.

Katie Nolan (57:24)

So you bet before you know the prompt. You bet in the going out to the commercial break, you look at their scores, you consider all the possibility. If you're me, you do it wrong. In my first episode, I calculated how much I would need to add to my score if the next closest guy, the guy in second place, doubled his money, because that's the most he could do if he doubled his money. What did I need to add in order to beat him. And then instead of adding one to that so that I would beat him, I put that exact number down. And so then when we came back from commercial, I realized before they asked the question and I was like, can we stop? Can we stop? I have to change my wager. And they're like, you can't. It's in. It's locked in. It's too late. So I a maths man. We had to go to. It sucks. We had to go to overtime and I won, which is fine. So it worked out. But if we hadn't a one, God, I would still be talking about it more so than I'm still talking about it now. Uh, Jeopardy. Was the greatest experience of my life. I think that if you even think for a little bit that maybe you could do it, I think you should take the test and you should try. Now that's coming from somebody who didn't have to take the test. So take it with a grain of salt, I guess. But another option, you could just start your own podcast and like, just like spend a couple years building yourself some sort of a media presence and then. And then just go on Celebrity Jeopardy. They let you just walk right on. So you don't even have to be that famous. Clearly. Um, ask as many questions about Jeopardy. As you guys want. I'm always happy to answer them. Did we. Did I actually answer the question? The question was, do I like Jeopardy.

Isabella (59:00)

I don't remember.

Katie Nolan (59:01)

Oh, have I been watching Celebrity Jeopardy this year? That's good, cuz I forgot. I wanted to say I have not yet been watching Celebrity Jeopardy. But Mina Kimes is gonna be one of the episodes. I think it's in March. I don't know. That feels so far away. I've been waiting forever to see this Mina Kyme Celebrity Jeopardy episode. I don't know anything about it. I don't have any inside information. I tried. I tried to get it from Mina and I tried to get it from Michael Davies and neither of them would tell me. But I'm very, very excited about that because if you know Mina Kimes, she's very competitive, she's very smart, and she was just on Family Feud with Pablo and David Chang and all those people, and they didn't. She didn't really get to do anything. She didn't get to like, show how smart she is. So I know she's itching to get out there and I cannot wait. That's gonna be Must see tv. Thank you for your question and I love you and I mean it. Do we have a voicemail, Chris?

Chris (59:51)

We do. From Kristin from Portland. So let's have a listen.

Katie Nolan (59:55)

Which Portland? Hi, casuals.

Isabella (59:57)

This is Kristin calling from Portland, Oregon.

Katie Nolan (59:59)

Oh, good. I'm calling because I have a little baby and I'm not from Portland and my husband's not from Portland, and we don't know who are we supposed to have him root for for our team allegiances. How do you pick that?

Isabella (60:15)

He's 15 years old, so we've got.

Katie Nolan (60:18)

A little bit of time, but not much. Love you. I love you. And I mean it, too. And thank you for clearing up. Which Portland. Because there are so many. It's like a Springfield. I just feel like there's a bunch. Okay, so you have a baby. Congrats, by the way, on the sex. You have a baby and you have a dilemma. And you want to know, because you're not from Portland and your husband's not from Portland, who does the baby root for? Now? Look, I know things are different in America now with this new guy in charge, but to me, birthright citizenship, That's a Portland baby. That baby roots for Portland teams. I don't know if that's an option. I don't know if what you're saying is, like, you've got teams and your husband's got teams, and you don't know who gets to impose their teams upon the baby. That feels like out of. Almost out of my jurisdiction. That feels like you got a. That's just whoever's who wants it more. Whoever wants it more can get that baby in that merch. But I think in terms of, like, if you really want the kid to love sports, the biggest chance they're going to have to go to Sports Live is going to be Portland Sports. So maybe, like, as long as Portland doesn't directly affect your sports. Also, what sport are we talking about? Because Portland doesn't have a football team. Portland's got the Trailblazers and MLS team.

Chris (61:47)

Portland Timbers.

Katie Nolan (61:50)

Yep.

Chris (61:50)

NWSL team, Portland Thorns.

Katie Nolan (61:52)

Right. But that's it. I don't think they have a. Oregon doesn't have hockey.

Chris (61:59)

They're getting a WNBA team. Right.

Katie Nolan (62:03)

Okay, great. So that's basketball and soccer are your only options. There's no hockey, there's no football. There's no.

Isabella (62:11)

That actually works out. Because then the baby can, you know, have their Portland team for those sports. And then, like, the other sports can be, you know, the parents.

Katie Nolan (62:20)

Yeah. I'm trying to think of how it works with my friend's kids, like Ashley's son. Who's eight now, by the way, if you remember Ashley from our last podcast, it's insane to me that Austin is 8 years old and we play fortnite together. We wear headsets and play Fortnite. He's 8 years old. He's better than me at video games. It's crazy. But he roots for the Eagles. I think he roots for both of his parents teams. I don't envy people who have this issue because I wouldn't know what to do. My kids gotta root for my teams. I care so much. You have to root for my teams. But I think the only thing you can do is perform your fandom in a way that makes it look enticing to your child so that they want to be a part of it. I don't think you can force it on them or like a kid usually does. They're gonna rebel against it, you know, and the last thing you want is for them to dislike your teams. So I feel like you start by going to, like, Portland events. I bet those soccer games are really fun. Seems like a good atmosphere for a soccer game. And. And then when the conversation comes up about who we root for in these other sports, make sure you have your PowerPoint ready. Make sure you've got a presentation, because you gotta get that kid on your side and you gotta get them early. That's my best. And also merch will help. I think the cooler merch you can get for that kid, the more likely they're going to want to rock it. So I don't know what you and your husband's rooting interests are. You didn't disclose them, which makes me even more curious. I feel like you got to just get the coolest merch that's ever existed for your teams and have that ready for when that kid's ready for a conversation about who he roots for.

Chris (64:02)

Just so you know, they do also have a. An ultimate Frisbee association team, the Oregon Steel. So that's obviously the important one that we missed out.

Katie Nolan (64:09)

Well, then that's a statistic. Steal up. Yeah, steal away is what I say. All right, that's the mailbag look. That's a segment we're gonna have more for in the. In the future. We love hearing from you guys. I love. I could do a whole episode of those. Just hearing what you guys want to know and answering your questions. Thank you for sending them in. If you sent a voicemail or an email, we've got it. Just because we didn't say it now doesn't mean we're not going to say it in the future. You never know. Just always good to ask more than you think we need. Other than that. You guys looking at this rundown? I think we got to all of it. That's it for Casuals. Enjoy the Super Bowl. Go Eagles. Go Birds. We'll see what happens. Send us a voicemail. The phone number I have it. It's 646-801-0043. Our email is Casuals with Katie nolanmail.com Our socials are at Casuals, the podcast. I am Katie Nolan. That's Isabella, that's Chris. Thank you for spending time with us. Rate Review Share. You know you've probably already skipped ahead to another episode of this American Life at this point, but if you're still here, try to do those things, let us know. Thank you for listening. This has been very fun and very cool. This was episode. I'm still numbering them right? This is the sixth episode. We're done with six episodes. It feels like we've done 25, but it's only been six episodes. Choose Love you guys. It'll be in both end zones. In case you forget. Choose love. Love you, mean it. Bye. Our state has changed a lot in the last 140 years. We know because Multicare has been here guided by a single purpose, making our communities healthier. That comes from making courageous decisions, partnering with local communities to grow programs and services, and expanding healthcare access to those who need it most. Together, we're building a healthier future. Learn more at multicare. Org.