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You think you know evil? Think again.
If Ted Bundy sent shivers down your spine, brace yourself for Christopher Wilder – the serial killer who was even more cunning, even more hypnotic, and whose reign of terror is far from over.
He was the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing: tall, handsome, seemingly respectable – the Australian-born son of an American war hero. Behind this polished exterior lurked a ruthless predator. For 20 years, this wealthy businessman and race car driver stalked America's most beautiful women. Someone's daughter. Someone's sister. Girls who never made it home.
Now we're finding them. Catching Evil is an explosive eight-year field investigation spanning two continents that refuses to stay buried in the 1980s. This isn't just another cold case podcast – this is a live investigation. As hosts Andy Byrne and Mark Llewellyn dig deeper, they uncover new bodies, new victims, and shocking evidence that connects one of Australia's greatest unsolved murder mysteries to a serial killing rampage across America.
This is victim-driven true crime at its most authentic and unflinching. We're giving voice to the forgotten girls, honouring their stories, and standing alongside the families still devastated by one man's evil decades later. Because lives are still being destroyed. Justice is still being denied. Their stories matter. We can't let them be forgotten.
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A killer who confessed to eleven murders. A sixteen-year-old runaway with a modelling dream. And a sister who never stopped fighting to bring her home.Tammy Jo Alexander left Florida looking for a brighter life. She was found shot dead in a cornfield 1,200 miles away — stripped of everything that could identify her, buried under a headstone that read only Jane Doe. Her serial killer counted on her staying that way. He didn't count on Pamela.This episode begins with a bombshell confession buried for forty years: a death-row prisoner who claims Christopher Wilder admitted to killing eleven women — before his rampage across America had even begun. Following that thread, Catching Evil has uncovered links between Wilder and Tammy Jo that lay hidden for four decades: a red racing jacket, a man in a roadside diner, a car for sale in the classifieds, and a sixteen-year-old's dream of being a model — the exact bait he used again and again.And at the heart of it, a sister. Pamela gave her DNA, gave Tammy Jo her name back, and is still asking the only question that matters: who did this to her little sister — and why?This is the episode that hits closest to home.We need your help with this investigation. Email us if you knew Shari Lynne or had an encounter with Christopher Wilder yourself. Or you have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comFollow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevilWebsite: https://www.catchingevil.com/post/the-mystery-of-tina-risico-the-stunning-courage-of-dawnette-wiltJoin us, make a difference and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Credits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A serial killer who confessed to 11 murders. A body that lay nameless in a swamp for 30 years. And a chilling new discovery.A New York cold-case detective contacts the Catching Evil team about three more young women he believes Christopher Wilder could have murdered — bodies dumped in fields, left as Jane Does, far from his Florida hunting ground. And we reveal another bombshell: a death-row prisoner who claims Wilder confessed to killing eleven women before his rampage across America.At the heart of it all is Shari Lynne Ball — 20 years old, lured to New York with the promise of a modelling career, and unidentified for over three decades. We trace the trail that points to her killer, including a discovery hidden in plain sight: a blitz of newspaper classified ads that fall silent every single time Wilder kills.And we meet two women who survived him — who laughed off his modelling pitch at a yard sale, never knowing how close they'd come, until his face appeared on the FBI's Most Wanted list.This is the episode where the net starts to widen.We need your help with this investigation. Email us if you knew Shari Lynne or had an encounter with Christopher Wilder yourself. Or you have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comFollow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevilWebsite: https://www.catchingevil.com/post/the-mystery-of-tina-risico-the-stunning-courage-of-dawnette-wiltJoin us, make a difference and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Credits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Before she died, she scribbled a note. Her killer stripped away everything that could identify her — but missed that scrap of paper in her pocket.She was beautiful, well-dressed, seen at a glamorous Manhattan red carpet party hours before she died — then discarded on a remote stretch of highway, with a tan she couldn't have gotten in a New York winter. Forty-three years later, no mother, no sister, no daughter has ever come forward to claim her.In this episode, we reveal the breakthroughs that have this cold case closer to cracking than ever — and the new bombshell: six more women, one secret life, and the road that connects them all.Contact us if you have had an encounter with Christopher Wilder or have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comFollow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevilWebsite: https://www.catchingevil.com/post/the-mystery-of-tina-risico-the-stunning-courage-of-dawnette-wiltJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Credits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThanks to Rhiannon Browning, co-host of Voices of the Voiceless on WKBW-TV in Buffalo, New York.Thanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Serial killer Christopher Wilder was ten minutes from the Canadian border. If the passenger door of his stolen car had been unlocked, he would have made it. This is the inside story of Friday the 13th, 1984 — the day the biggest manhunt in American history ended on the forecourt of a small-town gas station, and the two off-duty troopers who did what the FBI couldn't. We walk the road he drove. We stand on the spot where he died. We talk to the photographer who captured it all. The day Christopher Wilder died, the families of the women he took thought they would finally get their answers. They didn't. The chase ended that afternoon. The story didn't. And what we have uncovered since is about to change everything.Contact us if you have had an encounter with Christopher Wilder or have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comFollow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevilWebsite: https://www.catchingevil.com/post/the-mystery-of-tina-risico-the-stunning-courage-of-dawnette-wiltJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Credits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Devoted single Mom Beth Dodge is the final victim of serial killer Christopher Wilder's murder rampage across America — a six-week killing spree that has already claimed the lives of eight women. It is April 12, 1984 — a day that will live forever in serial killer infamy. Beth, weeks away from starting a new job and a new life for herself and her four-year-old daughter Stephanie, is executed in cold blood. Simply for her car.It isn't even lunchtime, and Wilder has already raped and tortured the two teenage girls he has held captive for days. He has stabbed one of them — 16-year-old Dawnette Wilt — and left her to bleed out alone in the woods. He will shoot Beth in front of the other — 16-year-old Tina Risico — the terrified girl he has broken into becoming his assistant.Stephanie was four years old when she was told her mum was in heaven. Today she is a mother of four, living a short drive from the place Beth was killed. Her children will never meet their grandma.This is Beth's story — the mother, the dreamer, the daughter she left behind. She deserves to be remembered as exactly that. 🕊️Contact us if you have had an encounter with Christopher Wilder or have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comFollow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevilWebsite: https://www.catchingevil.com/post/the-mystery-of-tina-risico-the-stunning-courage-of-dawnette-wiltJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Credits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThe Beauty Queen Killer: 9 Days of Terror - HuluThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Abducted schoolgirl Tina Risico's nightmare continues as serial killer Christopher Wilder forces her to lure another innocent victim into his deadly trap. Dawnette Wilt, a 16-year-old with a bright future ahead of her, is about to have her life torn apart by Wilder's brutal desires. As Tina is coerced into introducing Dawnette to Wilder, she's trapped between her own desperate bid for survival and the terrible fate that awaits the new victim.The stakes are impossibly high as Dawnette is dragged into a world of unimaginable horror.. Meanwhile, Tina is torn apart by her own guilt and fear, forced to make impossible choices that will haunt her for the rest of her life. Will she find a way to escape, or will she be forever defined by her actions? The tension builds as Wilder's grip on reality begins to slip, and the consequences of his actions become more and more catastrophic.But in a shocking twist, Dawnette refuses to give up, and her bravery in the face of unimaginable horror will change everything.Contact us if you have had an encounter with Christopher Wilder or have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comFollow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevilWebsite: https://www.catchingevil.com/post/the-mystery-of-tina-risico-the-stunning-courage-of-dawnette-wiltJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Credits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThe Beauty Queen Killer: 9 Days of Terror - HuluThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

He was killing every few days — then he took Tina, and suddenly stopped. Christopher Wilder had already abducted nine women and murdered most of them in a six-week rampage across America. He was the FBI's most wanted man. Every woman he took, he raped, tortured and then quickly killed them. But when he abducted 16-year-old Tina Risico from an LA shopping mall, something changed. The killing stopped. For nine days, he kept her alive — and for 40 years, no one has fully explained why. Until now.This is the story of the girl who was allowed to walk away when none of the others were — and the question at its heart is one every woman will ask: what did Tina do differently to survive? She tells us in her own words.#serialkillersecrets #serialkillerprofiles #notoriousserialkillers #famousserialkillers #TinaRisico #besttruecrimeWe need your help to continue this investigation:Contact us if you have had an encounter with Christopher Wilder or have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevilCredits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThe Beauty Queen Killer: 9 Days of Terror - HuluThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

'I Was Groomed by a Serial Killer': A Survivor's Chilling Story. LeAnne was just 16 when serial killer Christopher Wilder lured her off a crowded Florida beach, blindfolded her, and drove her to a place no teenage girl should ever find herself. She thought she was going to be a model. Instead, she came face-to-face with a monster. In this raw and emotional episode, true-crime experts Gemma Bath, host of True Crime Conversations, and Olivia LaVoice, host of The Bakersfield Three, react with shock and anger to LeAnne's terrifying brush with death.They explore the psychology behind Wilder's predatory behaviour, the systemic failures that allowed him to destroy so many lives, and why women are conditioned from a young age to comply with predators rather than fight back. LeAnne's encounter with evil is a stark and unsettling reminder of the dangers women still face — and why we need to talk about it.This episode also shines a light on the devastating ripple effect of Wilder's crimes on the families left behind, the importance of giving survivors and victims' loved ones a voice, and why true-crime podcasts are playing a vital role in keeping cold cases alive and delivering justice long after the system has failed.Gemma Bath is the host of True Crime Conversations on Mamamia, one of Australia's most successful and respected true-crime podcasts which explores the world's most notorious crimes by speaking to the people who know the most about them.https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/true-crime-conversations/Olivia LaVoice is a Seattle-based crime reporter who hosted the hit true-crime series The Bakersfield Three for Casefile Present, and before that ,The Man with a Thousand Faceshttps://casefilepresents.com/the-bakersfield-three/We want your help:Contact us if you had an encounter with Christopher Wilder or have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevil#catchingevil #prettygirlkiller #truecrimetok #truecrime #givingavoice #christopherwilder #serialkiller #MiamiGrandPrix #ProtectOurGirls #SafetyEducation #EmpowerYoungWomen #BreakTheSilence #TrueCrimeCommunity #UnsolvedMysteries #TrueCrimeObsessed #MindysStory #TerryWalden #BeautyQueenKiller #TerryFerguson #Survivor #WandaBeach #TrueCrimePodcast #SurvivorStories #RememberHer #PodcastRecommendation #VictimsMatter #NeverForgotten #MarianneSchmidt #ChristineSharrock #RosarioGonzalez #BethKenyon #ColleenOrsborne #SuzieLogan #Sheryl BonaventuraCredits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Link: For 43 years, nobody has known her name. In December 1983, a young mother was shot four times and her body dumped on a remote New York highway. She had no identification. Nobody reported her missing.She was buried as Ellery Jane Doe — named after the town where she was found — and has remained unidentified ever since. The FBI couldn't name her. Interpol couldn't. Homicide detectives couldn't. But Catching Evil listeners have blown this case wide open — placing serial killer Christopher Wilder in New York just 48 hours before her body was found, and cracking a coded note found in her coat pocket that had defeated experts for decades.Now, cold case detectives are asking our worldwide true crime audience to make the final connection. Listen to the episode, then go to our podcast blog and look at Ellery Jane Doe's photographs. Share the link with everyone you know, particularly if they are overseas.Link: https://www.catchingevil.com/post/episode-16-ellery-jane-doeGive this murdered mother her real name back and solve a murder.If you have information about Ellery Jane Doe, or another Christopher Wilder victim, reach out to us here: info@catchingevil.comGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

She was seventeen years old, competing in her very first beauty pageant, and she was there alone. Her dad called her his girl. Her car's number plate read TOMISH — To Michelle — with the tag line 'Daddy's Girl.' She had told her mum she was going to be President by the time she was thirty-five. She will forever be seventeen.Michelle Korfman left that Las Vegas shopping mall on a Sunday afternoon in March 1984 with a man who told her she had a big future in modelling. But he wasn't a fashion photographer, he was a serial killer who had been preying on America's most beautiful women for two decades.Michelle's family spent a small fortune searching for her — helicopters, search parties, 25,000 posters. They never stopped looking.She was found forty days later but spent another month in the morgue, listed as Jane Doe #39, before dental records finally gave her back her name.This is Michelle's story, this is her voice - not the killers. Because she was a piano player, a photographer, a daughter, and a dreamer — and she deserves to be remembered as exactly that.We want your help:Contact us here if you had an encounter with Christopher Wilder or have information about him or any of his crimes: info@catchingevil.comJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/Follow us:Instagram: catchingevilFacebook: Catching Evil: True Crime PodcastTikTok: catchingevil#catchingevil #prettygirlkiller #truecrimetok #truecrime #givingavoice #christopherwilder #serialkiller #MiamiGrandPrix #ProtectOurGirls #SafetyEducation #EmpowerYoungWomen #BreakTheSilence #TrueCrimeCommunity #UnsolvedMysteries #TrueCrimeObsessed #MindysStory #TerryWalden #BeautyQueenKiller #TerryFerguson #Survivor #WandaBeach #TrueCrimePodcast #SurvivorStories #RememberHer #PodcastRecommendation #VictimsMatter #NeverForgotten #MarianneSchmidt #ChristineSharrock #RosarioGonzalez #BethKenyon #ColleenOrsborne #SuzieLogan #Sheryl BonaventuraCredits:HostsAndy Byrne Mark LlewellynAudio ProductionSam Blacker - The Podcast ButlerResourcesThe Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random HouseThanks to Pro Podcast Studios, SydneyCatching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationGet in TouchIf you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: info@catchingevil.comRecord a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevilJoin us and support these not-for-profits:US Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/AusMary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.