Celebrity Jobber with Jeff Zito - Full Metal Jackie

Summary

Celebrity Jobber Podcast with Jeff Zito

Episode: Full Metal Jackie (Jackie Kaiser)
Release Date: January 31, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Celebrity Jobber, host Jeff Zito sits down with Jackie Kaiser—better known as Full Metal Jackie—a nationally syndicated rock radio host, music business veteran, and author of “Full Metal Jackie Certified: The 50 Most Influential Heavy Metal Songs of the 80s.” The conversation dives into Jackie’s early jobs, her journey through the radio and music industries, what inspired her latest book, and her reflections on pivotal career moments. The tone is candid, energetic, and littered with behind-the-scenes stories about the industry and her personal drive.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Writing Her Book: Inspiration & Process

[03:55] – [07:10]

• Origin: Jackie was inspired to write her book after years of creating radio edits of metal songs, diving deep into lyrics.
  • “You’re reading the lyrics and as a story, let’s say. Or you’re finding out you’ve been singing the song wrong, which happens a lot and is actually hilarious.” — Jackie Kaiser, [04:23]
• Core Themes: Many heavy metal songs are widely misunderstood or misinterpreted.
  • “That’s sort of like a core theme. A lot of these songs were misunderstood…people focus on the titles or the imagery or the shock value instead of intent.” — Jackie Kaiser, [06:28]
• Artist Interviews: Rather than directly asking artists for song meanings, she explored what was happening in their lives at the time, providing new context.

2. Early Influences & Entry into Radio

[07:44] – [11:47]

• Musical Awakening: Jackie credits her older sister and the cultural climate of New Jersey in the ’80s for igniting her passion for music.
  • “Growing up in New Jersey, like, that music was very prevalent…and being a hard rock fan became part of the fabric of who I am.” — Jackie Kaiser, [08:46]
• WSOU: Seton Hall University’s WSOU radio station became foundational for Jackie, both in her musical education and hands-on training.
  • “Here’s a station in northern New Jersey that reaches into New York City…normally college radio stations can reach, you know, to the parking lot of the college.” — Jackie Kaiser, [09:54]
• Radio Nostalgia: Shared memories about analog tools (grease pencils, razor blades) and the lost art of reel-to-reel editing.

3. Career Trajectory & Wearing Many Hats

[11:47] – [14:17]

• Juggling Roles: Jackie recalls simultaneously working as a DJ, board operator, and in various radio and music industry jobs.
  • “They’re like, hey, Jackie, can you—Yes, I’m on my way. Like you said yes before you even knew when it was. And that was your life.” — Jackie Kaiser, [12:33]
• Ambition: She always wanted to do “all the things”—radio, management, label work—across multiple bands and channels.
  • “All the things that as a young Jackie, growing up in New Jersey, that I only dreamed of doing…now I’m doing all the things. So I have 12 jobs and I love them all. Sleep is for sissies.” — Jackie Kaiser, [13:54]

4. The “Big Break” and Becoming Full Metal Jackie

[14:17] – [18:03]

• Manifesting Opportunities: Jackie emphasizes that you have to make your own breaks by staying determined and being laser-focused.
  • “You have to make them happen. And I manifested things…once I set my sights on something… I become a dangerous person.” — Jackie Kaiser, [14:51] & [15:21]
• Indy 103.1 & Origin of Name: Upon moving to Southern California, she pitched and landed a metal show at Indy 103.1.
  • Notable Moment: “[Steve Jones] waved me in while he was on the air and…said, ‘Oh look, it’s Full Metal Jackie.’...My boss…said, that’s your new show name.” — Jackie Kaiser, [17:11]
• Syndication: Jackie started syndicating her show independently before inking a deal with a syndication company.

5. First Jobs Before Radio

[18:37] – [22:39]

• Earliest Experiences: Jackie’s first job was at the English Town Auction, a flea market in New Jersey.
  • “I started working at the English Town Auction…this was off the books…paying in cash…dropped off by my mom at like six in the morning.” — Jackie Kaiser, [19:03]
• Other Jobs: Fast-food gigs at the Freehold Raceway Mall, and a lucrative data entry office job she landed by grabbing the job posting off her high school’s bulletin board.
  • “Instead of taking the little piece of the paper…I took the whole sign off the wall…I don’t want anyone calling. This is my job.” — Jackie Kaiser, [20:55]
• Radio Roots: DJing at clubs and local stations, inspired by radio/MTV legend Matt Pinfield, whom she now counts as a friend.

6. Favorite Mentors & Influences

[21:50] – [22:39]

• Matt Pinfield: Credited as a major inspiration; Jackie followed his path through radio and clubs.
  • “Matt used to be a DJ at this club in New Brunswick…that’s where Matt did, so that’s what I wanted to do.” — Jackie Kaiser, [22:10]

7. A Little Bit of Fun

[22:58] – [23:12]

• Brief dog chat: Zito’s dog Bear barks through the interview; Jackie’s dog is named Lemmy, “the bestest boy.”

8. Closing Thoughts & Book Promotion

[23:12] – End

• Book Availability: Signed copies are available at fullmetaljackyradio.com.
• Reflection: Jeff and Jackie reminisce on wearing many hats, adapting with the times, and the wild journey from humble jobs to national recognition.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Song Interpretation:

  • “A lot of artists are like, I don’t want to tell people what they should think this song is about…songs end up meaning different things to different people.”
    — Jackie Kaiser, [05:52]

• On Being Told No:

  • “When you tell me I can’t do something, it only makes me want to do it more.”
    — Jackie Kaiser, [15:20]

• On Opportunity & Focus:

  • “Once I set my sights on something…I become a dangerous person because I put blinders on to everything else and I am laser-focused on what it is I want to do.”
    — Jackie Kaiser, [15:21]

• The “Full Metal Jackie” Name Origin:

  • “He said, ‘Oh look, it’s Full Metal Jackie.’...My boss…the program director…said, that’s your new show name. And I was like, that’s a great idea.”
    — Jackie Kaiser, [17:11]

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Key Timestamps

• 03:55 – Origin and inspiration for Jackie’s book
• 05:52 – Artists’ reluctance to define their song meanings
• 07:59 – Jackie’s early music fandom, family influences
• 09:34 – WSOU and early radio days
• 11:47 – Juggling early radio and music jobs
• 13:54 – “Sleep is for sissies”—Jackie on multitasking in the business
• 14:17 – On making your own opportunities and the “big break”
• 17:11 – Steve Jones (Sex Pistols) coins “Full Metal Jackie”
• 18:37 – Jackie’s first “jobber” jobs (flea market, food court, data entry)
• 21:50 – Following mentor Matt Pinfield’s career path
• 22:58 – Jackie’s dog Lemmy gets a loving mention
• 23:12 – Book promotion and closing gratitude

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Tone & Style

The conversation is warm, personal, and filled with nostalgic, self-deprecating humor about coming up in radio’s analog era. Jackie’s relentless work ethic and love for music shine through, and Zito’s questions focus on extracting those “before they were famous” stories central to the Celebrity Jobber podcast.

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Perfect For Listeners Who…

• Are fascinated by the music and radio business or heavy metal culture
• Love true “how I got here” stories featuring hustle, resilience, and luck
• Are interested in the power of persistence and following creative dreams
• Want to know the humble beginnings of now-famous industry figures

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Transcript

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[Jeff Zito]

Hey, it's Jeff Zito and thanks for listening to another episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast streaming on iHeart, Spotify, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Please hit subscribe. We'd love a five star rating and please leave a review. Check out past guests and episodes [e-mail] and you can follow on Instagram at celebrityjobberpodcast or the YouTube channel YouTube.com theatsigncelebrityjobber who were these famous people before they were famous? How did they get there? Was there a big break or a life changing event that happened to them and what did they do before fame? Like what was their first job? I've been friends with Jackie kaiser for about 15 years now, maybe a little longer, but I knew her as a promotions person at a record label. I did not know in the beginning she was nationally syndicated radio host Fullmetal. Jackie kind of felt stupid in the beginning when I first found that out. Jackie's got a great story and she's got a new book called the 50 Most Influential Heavy Metal Songs of the 80s. We'll talk about all of Jackie's jobs in the music business. We'll talk about how she got started, her big break. Who named her Full Metal Jackie? And how about her first job before radio? Jackie has interviewed the biggest giants in the world of metal artists like Ozzy Osbourne, Rob Halford, Dave Mustaine, Slayer, who inspired her to get into the music business. Jackie Kaiser, AKA Fullmetal. Jackie is my guest this Week on Celebrity Jobber. The Celebrity Jobber podcast with Jeff Zito. If you like what you hear, please subscribe, give a five star rating and leave a review. Check out all our past episodes on Apple Podcasts spot or wherever you pop. What if these celebrities weren't famous? What would they have become? What was their first job? We're about to find out. So I find out right around the holidays that you just came out with a book. And by the way, I just received in the mail my autographed copy of your book certify the 50 most influential heavy metal songs of the 80s. And you can purchase your copy online at fullmetaljackyradio.com in the merch store. So people that write books to me are fascinating because I feel like the anxiety level would be at like a 10. Especially when you make the decision to write a book. You're sitting at a computer and you're like, okay, going to write a book, it's going to be about an inch thick. I've got nothing. And then you write Once upon a time or whatever. And I don't know, man. First of all, like, what made you.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

Want to do this so early days when I was doing my show, I wanted to play a lot of songs that were never meant for radio, right? You know those songs that you want to pull out of the archives or whatever and play and you're like, oh, there was never a radio edit. I'm going to make my own. What do you do? You pull up the lyrics and you sit there and you read the lyrics as you're listening to the song and you create your own edit. Right? We've all done it as radio people.

[Capital One/Grainger Announcer]

Sure.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

I did that a lot. Like, a lot. And with that, you're really getting into the lyrics. Not just looking for the F bombs or the whatever bombs, but you're reading the lyrics and as, as a story, let's say. Or you're a finding out you've been singing the song wrong, which happens a lot and is actually hilarious. But B, you really start to think about how we're maybe singing these songs with joy and with whatever feeling we're having. But a lot of these stories are, you know, could be dark or not even what we thought it was when we're singing them. And that's what sort of like stoked this idea for me about really making a book about lyrics. And if you're gonna write a book about lyrics, you gotta talk to the folks that wrote them. So then I started, you know, putting a list together like okay, if I was gonna do this, which songs would I feature? And that was the hardest part is to narrow it down. Cause that kind of a book can go on forever, right?

[Jeff Zito]

Did you ever find the. Ever run into the issue? Maybe it's different because you're full metal, Jackie, and in the heavy metal genre, your name carries a lot of weight. So maybe it's different. But did you ever run into the situation where these lyrics are just so personal to these guys? They don't want to tell you exactly. They're like, yeah, it's up for interpretation. You know, you hear that a lot.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

You're right. A lot of artists are like, I don't want to tell people what they should think this song is about. Because a lot of times songs end up meaning different things to different people. But the reality is, when an artist wrote a song, there was something going on at that time, or they were in a certain mindset. So it really wasn't just like, hi, Rob Halford, could you tell me what Breaking the law is about? It was really just talking about, you know, where they were at at that time. And a lot of these songs were, you know, pretty old. So they. It was like taking a trip down memory lane and really painting a picture about what was going on in that time, which is really what is important and what affected what they were writing about at that time, you know? But again, I just want to say that one of the biggest things that I took away from this project was misinterpretation. That's sort of like a core theme. A lot of these songs were misunderstood, right? Because, let's be honest, people, you know, if they just focus on the titles or the imagery or the shock value instead of intent, you know, they really. I mean, that's why hearing it from the artists really mattered to me.

[Jeff Zito]

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[Jeff Zito]

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[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

I did.

[Jeff Zito]

And you became a fan music at what age?

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

I would say probably 12, 13. And I have an older sibling, which is how a lot of us get introduced to music that we're fans of. Right. And I have an older sister who at that time was working at, well actually no early days, you know, when we were like in school. She ended up ultimately working at wsou where I ended up working at Seton Hall's, you know, college radio station, a full on metal station. But you know, growing up in New Jersey like that music was very prevalent at that time and I got to see a lot of shows and a lot of it was featured on MTV at the time. And I mean before there was sort of this shift with, you know, grunge and everything changed. I mean this was what was going on, right? These bands were touring arenas and it was a moment. And obviously there's been so many shift between then and now. But I feel like I was lucky enough to maybe catch the butt end of an amazing time in music. And being a hard rock fan, it became part of the fabric of who I am and what I love still to this day.

[Jeff Zito]

So just for people that are listening that don't know anything about wsou, Seton Hall University has a radio station and famous in New Jersey for being this like trailblazing radio station that played songs that you would never hear on the radio. It's led legendary and a lot of.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

It'S like locally funded. Whatever fund it from the college and donations, it wasn't always a 24, 7 station. Like when I was growing up and I was in high school, it started at 6am so overnight it was like community programming or you know, cultural just you know, weird, weird stuff that was happening overnight. And at 6am they would open with some epic metal song. And I was listening as, you know, my sister and I would be listening as we were getting ready for school and you know, we listen on the bus. I mean it was a metal station, it still is a metal station. And it's, you know, normally college radio stations can reach, you know, to the parking lot of the college. Here's a station in northern New Jersey that reaches into New York City that's amazing that it has a bigger signal than a commercial rock station. I worked at that station when it was first in a little rinky dinky studio and it was like reel to reel. And then we moved into a bully like Million Dollar Loc next door that was fully digital and amazing to just get my start in radio. But I'm very proud of, you know, the real to real days because I think young people Getting into radio now will never know.

[Jeff Zito]

They don't understand what it's like to do production with a grease pencil and a razor blade.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

So, yeah, slicing, you know, that's the thing. I've been making edits since the dawn of time. So here we are, you know, this many years later.

[Jeff Zito]

They don't get it. They have no idea. They have no idea. So. So, Jackie, radio nerds like us, right? I know it will reveal how old we are too, so. Hey, hey, I know, I know. Well, I'm there too. I'm there too. Everything hurts. So, Jackie, WSOU definitely very influential and you had an older sister that got you into music. Can you tell me between the time that you start at WSOU and now, in case people don't know, Jackie has, like I said, a nationally syndicated radio show and she also works in the music business. And you manage quite a few bands, Jackie. A handful of bands.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

I do wear many hats, Jeff, you are right. So ever since I just started working, right, like I was old enough to have a job, I wanted to do everything right. I was DJing at, you know, I was a DJ at a radio station. I would do fill ins, I would do my own shifts and then I had my regular, you know, full time day job. So I would, you know, sometimes fill it and you know, and only radio nerds like us will get this. But when you're starting out in radio and you get a job at a commercial radio station and they're like, call you up to fill, fill in for something like, hey, could you fill on on this weekend shift? Could you fill in on Christmas? Could you fill in on, you're in.

[Jeff Zito]

The car, you are on your way.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

I'm saying yes before I even know. They're like, hey, Jackie, can you. Yes, I'm on my way. Like you said yes before you even knew when it was. And that was your life. There were times where I was doing midnight till six, filling in for the overnight guy and then go into my daytime job with a smile because I was so happy to get that opportunity to get in that time, you know, being on the radio. I would do that for when they said, I need you to board up on this holiday. Yes, yes, yes. I wanted to do all of it. I was happy to do all of it. And it just, you know, started from just a huge love of radio. And not just, it wasn't just radio I wanted to do. I was very interested in the music business. So I decided to move to Southern California and I wanted to work for what was the biggest artist management company at that time? It was a company called the Firm that had everybody from Korn and Limp Bizkit and Lincoln park, all those bands in their heyday. So I moved to Southern California to work at the Firm and I still was doing radio and I ultimately, you know, led to me doing the Full Metal Jackie show, but it's like I didn't want to pick one or the other. So here I am this many years later and I do a radio show and I work at a management company and I work at a record label and I do multiple radio shows and channels and all the things, I mean, all the things that as a young Jackie, growing up in New Jersey, that I only dreamed of doing maybe one this thing or that thing. Now I'm doing all the things. So I have 12 jobs and I love them all. Sleep is for Sissy.

[Jeff Zito]

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Celebrity Jobber. The Celebrity Jobber podcast with Jeff Zito. Can you tell me, like, where do you feel like there was a moment where everything kind of connected? Like a big break? What do you think your big break? Because I know there's so many different levels to your career and your trajectory. What was that defining moment that you think of?

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

I really couldn't say it was one moment. But I will say that things don't just happen to you.

[Jeff Zito]

Yes, right.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

You have to make them happen. And I manifested things that I wanted to have happen. And I think that having people say, you're not going to be able to do it, or a girl's not going to be able to get a syndicated radio show, which I was told at times, or whatever it was, by the way, when you tell me I can't do something, it only makes me want to do it more.

[Jeff Zito]

Right.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

And once I set my sights on something, and I'm sure a lot of people can relate, I'm. I become a dangerous person because I put blinders on to everything else and I am laser focused on what it is I want to do. So when there was a radio station when I lived, you know, I moved to Southern California and one day the station called Indy 1031 popped up on the air. And I remember driving in my car, hearing this station and touching the radio. In my car, I touched the radio and I said, this is the station where I'm going to do a metal show. And I set out to figure out who was in charge. I knew somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody who knew that person and hounded that person. So they let me take Them out to lunch. And I said, hey. And by the way, it was an alternative station. So, like, why would they let me do a metal show? I don't know. But I said, hey, I'm gonna bring. We are in Southern California and there's no active rock station, there's no metal station here. And yet every metal show comes to down and sells out. That means there's people here that care about this music. There's an audience for this, and they have nowhere to go. So let me do a show for you and you will not have to lift a finger and you'll look like a hero. That was my wow, by the way.

[Capital One/Grainger Announcer]

Wow.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

And ultimately, you know, they're like, hey, come in this week and let's see what happens. And I was on that station until they went off the air. And at that time, my show was called Chaos with Jackie. And Steve Jones from the Sex Pistol did middays. And one day I was at the station and I just walked in. He's like, waved me in while he was on the air. And he said, oh, look, it's Full Metal Jackie. And he just said it. Like, he just said it. And my boss, the program director at that time, said, that's your new show name. And I was like, that's a great idea.

[Jeff Zito]

Wow. We gotta credit that to Steve Jones of the Sex Pistol.

[Capital One/Grainger Announcer]

Wow.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

Yeah. And then. But ultimately, because I was doing the multiple jobs that I was doing, right? So I was a radio promo person traveling the country, meeting programmers. And because I was doing this metal show in la, people were hearing about it. And a few of my friends who were programmers were like, hey, when are you going to do a metal show for me? And I was like, that's actually a great idea. So I bought the domain. I got a trademark on the name Full Metal Jackie. I started creating a show and uploading it to a link for different stations. I started syndicating it on my own. And ultimately, after I had like seven or eight stations on my own, I was approached by a syndication company and, you know, the rest is history.

[Jeff Zito]

The rest is history. Celebrity jobbers.

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[Jeff Zito]

The Celebrity Jobber podcast with Jeff Zito. Can you think back? Jackie, before the music business. Tell me about your very first job. What was your first paycheck? And maybe a couple other jobs that you held before you were in the music biz. Like, tell me, tell me about Jackie Kaiser, the regular, regular girl from Jersey. What kind of work did she do before she became Full Metal? Jackie, Nationally syndicated radio host.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

All right, all right. So one of the first jobs I ever had, because if I remember correctly, you had to be a certain age to get working papers. I think it was like 14 or 15. So I think when I was like 13 years old, I started working at the English Town Auction, which is a legendary sort of outdoor indoor and outdoor sort of flea market that was open on Saturdays and Sundays, I believe it still is. And, you know, this was off the books and there were different booths, everything from, you know, clothing and electronics and trinkets and whatever. So a lot of kids I went to school with were able to get a job at the auction because they would pay you in cash and you. They didn't have to, you know, taxes, whatever. So that is where I had my first job. I used to have to get dropped off by my mom at like six in the morning. And sometimes it was snowing and I would still show up. And whoever I was working for, by the way, we didn't have cell phones, right? Kids? There was a time where we didn't have cell phones. There you go. Imagine, imagine a world. And so I'd be standing there in the snow waiting for some guy to show up with electronics that probably fell off the back of a truck. And it was snowing, so he didn't show up. And I wouldn't make my, you know, whatever for 75 bucks for the day, right? So English Town Auction. I worked in the Freehold Raceway Mall at, in the food court as a teenager. And then I got an office job, which actually, when I was in high school, there was a sign on the bulletin board for like getting jobs, and it was like, hey, data entry, 10 to $15 an hour. I was like, 10 to $15 an hour?

[Capital One/Grainger Announcer]

Come on.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

So instead of taking the little piece of the paper to take the phone number, I took the whole sign off the wall. I'm like, I don't want anyone calling. This isn't my job. I'm going to get this job. And I did. And I stayed that company. I like, did on the side of all my radio stuff, even when I went through the college. And because I stole the sign off the bulletin board. I worked for that company for like 15 years and made a lot of money and was able to really have a lot of freedom to do, you know, all the stuff that I was wanting to do, right, DJ at. At the various stations in New Jersey. I DJ'd at a club, you know, I worked at WSOU, WDHA in North Jersey and WHTG in South Jersey, which early days I was following the footsteps of my radio and television hero, Matt Pinfield, who I'm so fortunate to call a friend to this this day.

[Jeff Zito]

And he's been dealing with some health problems. And I'm glad to see that he's actually getting better.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

He's doing great. But I wanted to follow in Matt's footsteps and he was on whtg, so I wanted to be on whtg. He was on mtv. I wanted to be on mtv, which ultimately, at some point, I. I did host an episode of Headbangers Ball for my book. There was a Full Metal Jackie certified, you know, episode. And also Matt used to be a DJ at this club in New Brunswick. Yeah, Melody Bar. And I was like, that's where Matt did. So that's what I wanted to do. So I DJed at that club. So I was like DJing at a club one night a week, you know, doing my. That job where I stole the sign off the bulletin board all day during the day, DJing at the radio stations. By the way, at one point I was working for DHA and HTG at the same time.

[Jeff Zito]

Wow.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

There were days where I was like doing one shift and then driving across the state, going to the other station because, you know, like I said, for us fans, you know, us radio nerds, we were like, I'll go, I'll do whatever. Anytime you are willing to have me in there, like, I'm there, right?

[Jeff Zito]

I'm sure you can hear my dog Bear barking during the whole interview here. So I had to ask, how is Lemmy?

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

Lemmy is the cutest dog in the world and I love him and he is the bestest boy.

[Jeff Zito]

There you go. Well, Jackie, look, the book. Full Metal Jackie certified the 50 most influential heavy metal songs of the 80s. I mean, you used to say you get it at Barnes and no, I guess people know how to buy books these days.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

I have signed copies up for sale at fullmetaljackyradio.com Jackie, thank you so much.

[Jeff Zito]

For your time again and congratulations on all your success and I'm sure we'll talk soon.

[Jackie Kaiser (Full Metal Jackie)]

Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.

[Jeff Zito]

Really great talking to Jackie. As she mentioned earlier, radio nerds. So if you're still in the radio business today, the industry has changed dramatically over the course of the last 20 or 25 years. So if you're still in the business today, making a living, you wear a lot of different hats. And she does nationally syndicated radio show record label artist management, responsible for discovering the band Five Finger Death Punch just came out with the book once again certify the 50 most influential heavy metal songs of the 80s. You can purchase an autograph [e-mail] Talking about some of her first jobs. Before radio, she worked at the English Town auction. She also worked at the food court. I think she said it was at the Freehold Raceway Mall. And then she talked about an office job doing data entry. So all that stuff before radio, before the music biz, she got interested in music because. Because she had an older sister. And by wanting to follow in the footsteps of the legendary Matt Pinfield, who was definitely one of my major influences as well. And as far as a big break is concerned, she had a lot of breaks along the way. But I'm gonna say starting at that radio station to do that metal show, Steve Jones from the Sex Pistols doing middays and saying full Metal Jackie coming up next. I gotta say, I think that could have been a really big break for organic just happened, right? Great story. I really admired Jackie and again, glad to call her a friend. So thank you for checking out another episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast number three this week on the Apple Podcast music interviews chart. So please subscribe. Would love a 55 star rating. And please leave a review, past guests and episodes [e-mail] and you never know what these people's lives were before fame. Jackie Kaiser worked at an auction. She worked at the food court in the mall, and she did data entry at some office before she became nationally syndicated radio host. Full Metal Jackie, Everybody's got a story and some great ones coming up in the next few weeks. Again, thank you for listening to another episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast. Until next week. I'll see you then. I'm Jeff Zito.

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