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Jeff Zito
All right, it's Jeff Zito and thank you for checking out another episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast streaming on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Iheart, wherever you listen to podcasts. So please subscribe. Would love a five star rating and if you wouldn't mind, please leave a review. You want to check out all our past guests and episodes, you can do so by going to celebrityjobber.com and it's pretty simple. We talk to celebrities and, and we find out a little bit about them before they were famous because everybody's got a story and everybody had life before fame. There were very few celebrities that were born into it. You know, I do remember guys like William Shatner. He said his very first job was when he was like 4 or 5 years old in acting. He was an actor. He's been an actor for 90 years. That was his very first job. Never worked at a pizza place, never babysat. And then there's a lot of famous people who had different lives, completely different lives before, before fame. And that's what we try to expose here on the Celebrity Jobber podcast. By the way, you can follow us on Instagram, Celebrity underscore, Jobberpodcast, or our YouTube channel, which is YouTube.com theatsigncelebrityjobber. You might have heard of the name John Corabi for the very first time in the early 90s when he replaced Vince Neil for one album in the band Motley Crue. It was kind of a big deal. Okay, but you might also know John Corabi from bands like the Scream or Union Brides of Destruction. He Played in the band Rat for a few years and, and of course the Dead Daisies have been a super group that Jon's been in for like the last 10 plus years. John has his first solo album dropping on April 24th. It's called New Day. The first single is When I Was Young and definitely struck a chord with me when I first heard it. We'll talk a little bit about John Corabi, his family, how did he get into music, his big break, his first job, all about singer, guitarist John Corabi. My guest this week on Celebrity Jobber.
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Jeff Zito
Right on. There he is.
John Corabi
Sorry, buddy. I was, I was hitting the link to Come on and it was like, it was asking me for like passwords and meeting IDs and oh no. So I just kept hitting it again and then finally it went through. Anyway, I apologize for being late.
Jeff Zito
Let me tell you something, John. I've been in this business for 30 years and I have come to know something called rock and roll time. So you being three minutes late is actually being 15 minutes early in my book, so.
John Corabi
Well, you know the only drag about that, I'm. I'm looking at the amount of interviews I have and how they schedule them. So three minutes late means that we've only got 27 minutes.
Jeff Zito
So I just feel you.
John Corabi
I'm just trying to be respectful.
Jeff Zito
Well, listen, man, it's great seeing you again. It's been a long time. And I'll remind you, you were in the studio with me probably about 10 years ago, dead Daisies Revolution album, and you were playing in town. We were in. I was in Fort Myers, Florida at the time and we had a blast with you guys.
John Corabi
That's when we were, I believe we were on tour with White Snake. Really?
Jeff Zito
Okay, yeah.
John Corabi
Well, well, 2015 revolution. Yeah, we were. We did a tour with Kiss and then we toured with White Snake. I know we played some shows in Florida because we played Melbourne. Yeah. Anyway, it was with White Snake, but yeah, it's. That's 11 years ago, pal.
Jeff Zito
Long time. I know, it's crazy. So, so getting into the new, the new song, by the way, new album, which is called New day, drops on April 24th and you can pre order that right now. @john karabi.com the song When I Was Young. I love this. This is a great song. And I mean, it just. I mean, tell me a little bit about where you were in your mind. This. You write this song. Where were you? In this place of reminiscing about. About the old days.
John Corabi
It was funny. Marty and I kind of. We have this odd process. We sit around with acoustic guitars first and kind of try and map out the songs. And, you know, we're scatting, throwing melody ideas at each other. And it was Marty, actually, that came up with, you know, when I was young, you know, so I was like, oh, that's cool. So wrote it down. And honestly, I. I came home and I can't explain it because there's. Sometimes I work on lyrics and it's like. It's like pulling your hair out, trying to get the right. But it was weird. I just sat there and I pictured. When I was young, like, I just pictured a guy thinking back at all the things he's done right, all the things he's done wrong, and where he is right now.
Jeff Zito
Right?
John Corabi
And then we took it a step further because the last verse, we kind of changed as I was singing it. And Marty and I both have. You know, we have sons and daughters, but our sons are very like. My son plays drums. He's played in my solo bands in the past.
Jeff Zito
And that's Marty.
John Corabi
Marty's son plays. Well, Marty's son played drums on my whole solo record. But he helps Marty with the recording process. He's. And, you know, he's great with the pro tool stuff, right? And, you know, we're constantly giving them advice. So if you listen to the last verse of it, you know, it's this guy reminiscing, and then the last verse, he says, can you hear me, son?
Jeff Zito
Right on.
John Corabi
So it's like a guy reminiscing about his life in conversation with his. Again, it was just us talking to our sons, but it could be a mother and daughter, could be father and daughter. It doesn't matter. But it's just someone reminiscing about their life in conversation with their offspring and kind of in some way, maybe giving them advice. All the things I've done right, all the things I've done wrong. Here's the advice. Make it count.
Jeff Zito
So, John, tell me about this guy, this guy that. This. This young John Corabi back in Philly. Give me a little background. What did. Are you from a musical family? What did your parents do for work?
John Corabi
My mom worked in a factory. And my dad was. You know, my dad worked different, like, office jobs. My dad wound up being. My family ran a couple of unions back in Philadelphia. So, yeah, put that one together.
Jeff Zito
So not like you were. No, I'm like, in the family footsteps.
John Corabi
No. Nobody in my family that I can think of played any sort of instrument. I just got a guitar for. I was, I don't know, seven, eight years old. I got a guitar for Christmas. Have no idea why my parents bought one, but they got me this guitar. I took some lessons and then just jumped in with both feet. Started, you know, playing Beatles songs. And back then the stuff that was on the radio, Simon and Garfunkel and. And. And just, you know, at one point in grade school, there was a school talent show, put a little band together, and we did House of the Rising sun and I'm not your stepping Stone by the Monkeys.
Podcast Narrator
Cool.
John Corabi
Wound up winning the contest. My dad took us for pizza afterwards, and I was off to the races at that point.
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Jeff Zito
When did you decide that you wanted to make a career out of music? Because obviously the talent show is cool and that's a lot of fun and you're young and you're eating pizza and celebrating, but at what, you know, when you got a little older and, you know, you knew you had to get out there and make a living. Did you have an alternate plan? Was music always the plan or was it a hobby or worry? Like right around 18, 19 years old?
John Corabi
Well, obviously I did the COVID path, being from Philadelphia, New Jersey, all those clubs back there, back in the now I'm going back to, like, mid to late 70s. It was all about covers and bands that were doing tribute acts. You know, like, if you. If you did, you did, you know, four sets a night, and you did three sets of covers. And then your last set was like, you know, oh, we're gonna do a set of Zeppelin or Aerosmith or whatever. And so I started doing that when I was like, 1617 years old and, you know, making decent money at it. I mean, back then, you know, I. I don't think I ever had a job. You know, it was more about, like, going out and playing music. And I was making, you know, at 16, 17, 18, 19 years old, you know, I was making, back in the 70s, 6, 700 bucks a week. You know what I mean?
Jeff Zito
It was good money, big money.
John Corabi
So. But I was also a bit of a music nerd, you know, Like, I had the posters of Robert Plant and Aerosmith and David Bowie and. And you're sitting looking at these record covers, and you're seeing, you know, songs like Black Dog or rock and roll, like, written by Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, you know, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones. You're like, I need to learn how to do that. Right? And I just said, all right, you know, I'm gonna start. I. I like it. One point. I just said, I'm done. I don't want to do the covers anymore. I want to write my own music. And it was very crude. You know, like, the beginning of my. The beginning of my original path was not smooth, right? But, you know, the. The more you do it, the better you get at it. The older you get, the more stuff you have to talk about lyrically. So it just, you know, it just. It took forever. But, you know, I eventually got into the. Just writing my own music because I. I knew that if I wanted to be like Robert Plant and I wanted to be like Steven Tyler and Fog Hat and Grand Funk Railroad, I needed to write my own songs.
Jeff Zito
So you said you never had a job. Like, first job, paper route, worked at a pizza place.
John Corabi
I've. I've had things like that. But the. When I. You know, I mean, first I started doing covers, and then once I started doing the original thing, the money wasn't coming in like it was. So then I. I was like, all right, I need something, you know, because.
Jeff Zito
Supplement.
John Corabi
To supplement and, like, you know, and to be honest with you, I got married very young to a girl that already had a daughter. So 19 or 20. I was married with a kid.
Jeff Zito
Wow.
John Corabi
So there was always that air of responsibility. But, you know, when I. When I say a job, like, music has been the longest job I've ever had. You know, I started getting paid to play music when I was, you know, maybe 17.
Podcast Narrator
Right.
John Corabi
And I'll be 67 in April. So I've been doing this for. Off and on for 50 years. You know what I mean?
Jeff Zito
What about the first job? You remember your very first Job. Was it music or was it something else?
John Corabi
No, my very first job, I think I was, I don't know, maybe 10 or 11 years old. They used to call them hugsters back in the day, but these guys would drive down the street in these, like, flatbed trucks with the wooden sides on them. Yeah. And they would sell, you know, tomatoes, corn, peaches, whatever. And this guy used to come down my street and he would sell fruits and vegetables. And I just walked up to him. My mom asked me to go get like six ears of corn and some tomatoes. I paid the guy and I said, you know, I. I don't even know. I don't even know how I did it, but I was like, hey, man, you hiring? And 10 years old. Yeah, 10, 11. I don't know what I was, but I did that. I did that for a while, you know. Yeah, I wanted. I wanted things, you know, I wanted a new baseball glove or I wanted a bike or. And my dad. My parents were always, you know, well, save your money.
Jeff Zito
Go.
John Corabi
You know, So I would mow lawns or whatever, and I wound up doing this hug string thing. So the guy would come and pick me up in the morning. We would drive to different neighborhoods. I would get a giant basket. He would drive down the street and park. And then I would go door to door, knocking on people, saying, like, hey, we got some fruits, vegetables, there's the truck. And they would come out and I would help bag their stuff, carry it back to their house if need be. And, you know, I think he paid me like a quarter an hour or some whatever. It was like slave labor.
Jeff Zito
Yeah. He took advantage of you for sure.
John Corabi
I did that until I fell off the back of his truck and I split my lip open. Like, literally under. Underneath of this beard, on this side of my mouth. I've got a massive scar under here where I. I literally fell off the back of the truck and face planted into my own knees and I split my lip open.
Jeff Zito
So fired yet he's like, oh, I can't. I can't. No, no, no, no. He didn't fire me.
John Corabi
He felt horrible, but he was like, ah, insurance man. I can't do. Yeah, so.
Jeff Zito
Oh, man.
John Corabi
You're on your own, kid.
Jeff Zito
Oh, man.
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Jeff Zito
And 50 years in the music business. That was your first job. And he said he had a couple of, you know, you had to supplement your income when you made the transition from covers to originals. Completely understandable. But look at this career. You know, I, I mean, from the scream, Angora Union 247 rat dead daisies as I know and of course the, the one that Motley Cruel during The early to mid-90s had to be a very interesting time for you. Can you. Was. Do you consider that maybe you're coming out, your big break, your introduction to the world. Would, Would you consider that like your, your pivotal moment in your career?
John Corabi
Yeah, I mean, in hindsight, that was the thing that put me on the map that, you know, now would I have gotten there with the Scream? Possibly. You know, hard to tell, you know, but the Motley Thing was the one that really projected me into a lot of different lights and, you know, maybe like, who's this guy, who's this Karabi guy that's replacing Vince Neil? Yeah, it was beautiful. It was awesome. It was a lot of fun. It was eye opening. But to some degree, not to be negative, it was a bit of a curse as well because, you know, even still to this day, that's what people want from me. And, and really, yeah, there's, there's some, you know, even with this new material, like, I was, I don't want to say worried about it, but I'm like, this is, you know, my, my wife actually said this, this is probably this new record that I just did. New Day is probably the most honest and real, Like, I guess, statement from John Corabi. All the other things that I've done, it was me catering. Like I might have an idea, but I had to. I had three or four other people in the band that I had to compromise and change things for. And this is just me being me. But, you know, I've seen a few comments, not many. It's. It's minimal, but there's been a few people like, yeah, I'm waiting for him to do something heavy again like the Motley record.
Podcast Narrator
Yeah.
John Corabi
And it's just like, dude, I did that 35 years ago.
Jeff Zito
Right.
John Corabi
You know, I did it already. Right. This is just me as a 67 year old man just going back and thinking about some of the Music I grew up listening to. And this is my offering to whatever, you know.
Jeff Zito
So do you look at the experience now nowadays? Do you look at the experience differently than. Because, I mean, it had to be, you know, a lot. You know, everybody hears the stories, but as a, you know, 67 year old guy now, do you look back at that experience and go, you know, that was, that was a cool experience. Was it a good experience for you?
John Corabi
I don't, you know, I don't regret anything. You know, I've had a lot of people or, you know, I don't want to say it drives me crazy, but even if you look at my bio, you know, rock journeyman, and then it's the list of things that I've done and. But that was just the way things played out for me.
Jeff Zito
Yeah.
John Corabi
You know, I, I wish I was still sitting here talking about the 19th or 20th scream album and I think we had the talent and the capabilities of possibly doing that. But who knew I was going to get a phone call from at the time, one of the biggest bands in the world and they were going to ask me to join their band. Didn't know that there was no, no future. You know what I mean? No crystal balls, right. I didn't know that it happened. I made that choice. Even my bandmates in the screen were like, dude, if you don't do this, you're an idiot.
Jeff Zito
Yeah.
John Corabi
So I did that. And then it was like, you know, for as negatively as those guys talked about Vince Neil, how was I supposed to know he was even. He was going to come back, right? I didn't know right then. I did Union.
Jeff Zito
Yeah.
John Corabi
And, you know, I felt positive about it. The reviews that we got on the Union music was great, great band.
Jeff Zito
Bruce Kulik, I remember seeing.
John Corabi
Yeah, we got great reviews. But again, you know, who knew that I was going to do that? And we were going to be totally in the height of the grunge thing. Same with the Motley record.
Jeff Zito
Right.
John Corabi
You know, and.
Jeff Zito
Absolutely.
John Corabi
It was just the way it played out.
Jeff Zito
Just.
John Corabi
We never broke up. We never broke up. The thing with Union was we were selling tickets to shows, but we weren't getting radio airplay, we weren't getting MTV airplay, we weren't getting any support from the industry. So we were selling tickets, word of mouth, mainly the kids fans. So we were getting that, but we weren't making any money.
Jeff Zito
And also some John Corabi fans though, from.
John Corabi
Yeah, yeah, there was, there was, but.
Jeff Zito
It was, it was one of them.
John Corabi
It was mainly the Kiss fans. And you know, and then Bruce got the offer to join Grand Funk Railroad.
Podcast Narrator
Yeah.
John Corabi
So it was like, hey, dude, you know, we're going to pay you way more money than you're making now to play your guitar for this legendary band. And oddly enough, I, shortly after that, got offered the rat gig. And then, oddly enough, Brent and Jamie wound up getting offered the gig to play with Vince Neil.
Jeff Zito
Crazy world.
John Corabi
So it was very incestuous, whatever. But it was more about. We never disagreed. We never. There wasn't any infighting. It was just about four guys needing to pay their electric bill. Right. And they just went to gigs that actually guaranteed them more money. That was it.
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Jeff Zito
John, you've got a. You know, you've done something. I'm so, I'm so envious of you for, you know, putting out a book, an autobiography. It seems to me like such a daunting task. And it gives me anxiety thinking about. I say this to everybody that's ever, you know, wrote a book or written a book sitting down, going, okay, I'm gonna write right now. Here we go. Once upon a time, or however you start the damn thing like that, to me, gives me such anxiety, like, okay, I'm gonna make a book. It's about an inch thick. And, you know, I'm starting it right now. It's called. It's called Horseshoes and Hand Grenades, which I, I think is such a funny title, says a fan of wrestling. Growing up was something that Gorilla Monsoon used to say, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. So tell me why you, why you decided on that title?
John Corabi
Well, it was. I have my dad to thank for that, but it really sums up my entire career. I have been always at the right place but the wrong time. So later in life, when I was doing my acoustic unplugged record, I was kidding with my dad as a joke.
Jeff Zito
And.
John Corabi
He was like, oh, man, I really like when you do the acoustic stuff. I can hear your voice. I can hear the lyrics. And he goes, what are you going to call it. And now I had taken a few of my older songs, like Hooligan's Father Mother Son, and reworked them. And so I was joking with my dad and I go, yeah, I'm thinking about calling it John Karabi's Almost Greatest Hits. And my dad, it's just like, almost like a quip. He just went, or he called Horseshoes and Hand Grenades.
Jeff Zito
He was right there with it.
John Corabi
And I go, what do you mean? And he goes, you know, you don't have to be right. You just got to be close, right? And I was like, okay. So I wrote that down. And then Paul Miles, when he talked to me about doing the book, it was actually during COVID so I had plenty of time to do that, right? But my buddy Paul Miles called and we started working on this. And as we were doing the edits and we were going back and forth and we started getting close, Paul said, what do you want to call the book? And I said, well, after interviewing with you as much as I did and now going through this thing eight or ten times, reading the edits, my dad said something to me years ago and it totally sums up my career. I've been close, I've been at the right place, but always at the wrong time. And I said, he goes, what do you want to call it? I go, horseshoes and Hand Grenades. And they. He just started laughing. He goes, that's perfect.
Jeff Zito
It's a great title. But let me just, let me just say this. An outsider looking in. You know, there's all levels. This business is so crazy. And there's all different levels. You know, there's the Michael Jackson level and then there's the, you know, cover band level, and then there's, you know, a lot of in between and, and I think, you know, you have a lot to be proud of your career. Brides of Destruction. I mean, some really great stuff. And I just wanted everybody to know. This new album, it's called new day, April 24th. You can pre order it on john karabi.com when I was young, the first single just came out a couple of days ago, really got me, really resonated with me and I again, you know, for Dead Daisies, I was such a big fan of, of those guys too. You know, you've got an incredible, you know, body of work and to the Motley Crue thing to me was just, you know, that's what introduced John Karabi to me and, and, and going, you know, I didn't stop there. I didn't stop at Hooligan's holiday, you know, I kept going, so. And I think there's a lot of us out there, a lot of people out there. So, you know, close, you know, you know, horseshoes and hand grenades, you know, only counts, you know, close only counts. I still think, you know, you've got, you know, you've got a lot to be proud of and an incredible body of work.
John Corabi
And I appreciate, I appreciate. And you know what? That's one of the things that I've learned in hindsight now looking back, you know, I, I get it. I'm, I, I am truly very blessed to be able to sit here and talk to you about my 19th record. Wow. You know, and you know, I, I've had a record deal with the Scream. I had a record deal with Motley. I had a record deal with Union. I, I had a record deal early on with, you know, Rat Pack Records, when I did my first two solo records. You know, now I'm being offered another one. And, and I do realize that there's people out there that are a million times more talented than me. They never got one record deal. So on that part, I'm very, truly, truly feel very blessed. But when I say close, I'm just, It's really funny.
Jeff Zito
Big. Yeah.
John Corabi
Yeah. I've just been like, right there where I could almost reach the brass ring to becoming, you know, for a lack of a better term, more of a household name.
Jeff Zito
Right.
John Corabi
You know what I mean? But now it's like, you know, I've just kind of resolved myself like, hey, you know, just do the best you can. Just keep putting out music and hopefully, you know, this you can do, do what you can. But 50% or more of this business is being at the right place at the right time and luck, no doubt. So hopefully this record is the one that makes the statement for me.
Jeff Zito
John karabi.com New album called New Day, April 24. New single when I Was Young. I urge everybody to check it out. A pleasure as always, John. Thank you so much.
John Corabi
Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Keep waving the flag. We all need it.
Jeff Zito
You got it, my man. Thank you.
John Corabi
All right, buddy. Thank you.
Jeff Zito
Bye bye.
John Corabi
Bye bye.
Jeff Zito
I'll tell you what, pretty crazy that no musical family members, you know, John Karabi came from a very blue collar working man's family in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And he said one Christmas he or birthday, something like that, he just got a guitar. I mean that he didn't want it, he didn't ask for. He is one day for Christmas present, he got a guitar and that was, I guess, it, you know, it kind of grew on him. And then he just listened to rock and roll and that was it. I thought that was kind of funny. It was like, yeah, you know what? One day I just. I got a guitar for Christmas. So, you know, when talking to John about all of the different bands that he was in, obviously there is that one band that introduced him but you know, to the world. And that would be Motley Crue, when he replaced Vince Neil for that one Crue album in the early 90s. And even though John says, you know, I don't regret anything, I asked him if it was a good experience, and he's like, you know, I don't regret anything that I've done. I do see maybe a little bit of resentment from John as. As he says that that's what everybody wants out of him, maybe to play that Motley Crue song, Hooligan's Holiday. But I did sense a little bit of maybe resentment because the guy's got a tremendous body of work and, you know, everybody wants to hear the Motley Crue thing, which lasted like a second in his career. His first job. And I've never heard of a hugster before. Okay. He was, I guess, selling fruit, you know, I guess if you watch Rocky, you'll see these guys in Philly on the side of the road with like, fruit truck. And I guess the kid, as a kid, John said he was like 10, 11 years old, you know, kind of selling fruit from the back of a guy's truck. And he did it for years. And they called it a hug stir, which I had no idea that even had a name. But his. His job ended when he. He fell off the back of the truck and. And split his lip. The guy's like, oh, boy, you're an insurance nightmare. Got to go. See you later, pal. But I thought it was a great story. Bam. New album called New day comes out April 24th. You can pre order on john corabi.com great new song, which is on that album, and the song When I Was Young. Got to check it out. John karabi.com Great story. Good guy, very talented, not a journeyman, which is what he said people described him as. So thanks again for checking out another episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast, streaming everywhere. So please subscribe. Would love a five star rating. And if you could please leave a review, that would be awesome. Past guests and episodes online@celebrityjobber.com who knows what would have happened to these celebrities if, you know, fame never happened. You know, maybe John would be playing covers. Maybe John would be in a cover band somewhere. I'm definitely sure he wouldn't still be a hugster. Definitely outgrew that job, that's for sure. But, you know, got that call from Motley Crue out of the blue back in the early 90s, and that introduced him to the world once again. Thank you for checking out another episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast. And until next time, I'll see you then. I'm Jeff Zito, brought to you by.
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In this episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast, host Jeff Zito sits down with rock musician John Corabi to explore his journey from humble beginnings to global recognition. The discussion focuses on Corabi’s early life, his first job, and pivotal moments in his music career—including his high-profile stint as Mötley Crüe’s frontman. Corabi shares personal stories and reflections on luck, timing, and the perception of being a "journeyman" in the music industry. The episode also highlights his new solo album, "New Day," and the introspective single "When I Was Young."
| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 05:28-08:23 | “When I Was Young” songwriting and family stories | | 08:23-10:07 | Early life, family background, unexpected first guitar | | 10:45-13:56 | Cover bands, transition to original music, first gigs | | 15:02-17:40 | First job as a “huckster,” work ethic as a child | | 18:15-20:54 | Major break with Mötley Crüe, fame and fallout | | 21:15-24:50 | “Journeyman” reality, band transitions and necessity | | 25:47-28:56 | Writing “Horseshoes and Hand Grenades,” meaning behind title | | 28:57-32:12 | Gratitude for career and perspective on success |
Summary by Podcast Playground. This episode captures the spirit of “what if” for musicians and dreamers alike—an honest conversation about luck, hustle, and the unpredictable ride that is life in music.