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Jeff Zito
Thank you once again for checking out another episode of the Celebrity Jobber Podcast. Streaming everywhere. I heart Apple Podcasts, Spotify. Wherever you listen to podcasts, please hit that subscribe button. Would also love a five star rating if you like the podcast. Also please leave a review. You can go back in time. You can check out past guests and episodes online@celebrityjobber.com we are consistently in the top five on the Apple Podcast Music Interviews chart, so thank you very much. Now we don't necessarily just talk to musicians. We talk to all types of celebrities, some that you know more than others. We find out about their life before celebrity. They were regular people, they held regular jobs. We find out what their life was like before fame, what those jobs were and what was it that got these people to where they are today. There must have been some kind of life changing moment or big break. So we talk all about that. You might not know the name Mary Cutter yet, but I can guarantee you you're gonna know her name real quick. Actually, just today she drops a new single called Bed of Roses. She's gonna be performing at the Tortuga Festival, which is a huge, huge multi day country festival in Florida and a new album that's coming out sometime few months. So you're getting a little sneak peek at somebody that you're going to know all about in the very, very near future. And I got to tell you, without trying to sound like a creep here, she's kind of easy on the eyes. One of country music's rising stars, Mary Cutter, is my guest this week on.
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Celebrity Jobber The Celebrity Jobber Podcast with Jeff Zito. If you like what you hear, please subscribe, give a five star rating, and leave a review. Check out all our past episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you po. But what if these celebrities weren't famous? What would they have become? What was their first job? We're about to find out.
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Mary Cutter
How are you?
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Jeff Zito
Yeah, I'm doing great. And thanks for doing this, and, oh, I'm so excited. Happy belated birthday, by the way.
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Mary Cutter
Thank you. You know what? I feel like it's birthday month. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about you, sugar, but I just celebrate. You know, I take the opportunity to celebrate lots of things, but birthday month is always a thing. Now when is your birthday?
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Jeff Zito
My birthday is in. And if a guy ever does that, I always make fun of the guy. I'm always like, okay, your birthday is on your birthday. You can't. You know, I even. I even get. I even start saying, like, when they go birthday, there's a guy in my life that does that birthday weekend. And I go, look, girls can do that. You can't do that, pal. But. But you're gonna celebrate the whole month.
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Mary Cutter
You say, oh, always, baby doll. I mean, I feel like there's been a lot of exciting things going on that, you know, I'm getting to celebrate right now. I can't, you know, even remember what all maybe you've even been told or not. But it's really been an exciting last little bit for me, and I feel like it's just starting. But, you know, I guess we could say birth week. Birth month. But I'm just like birthday month, you know, you just sandwich it all together.
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Jeff Zito
Well, you've got so much happening this month. Today's the day. February 13th, Mary Cutter drops her new single, which is called Bed of Roses. So I want everybody to Google Mary Kutter, that's with a K, K U T T E R, and listen to her new song. Bed of Rose actually comes out today, Bed of Roses.
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Mary Cutter
And you know what? I'm so excited, too. It's the first single that's dropping from the record, so just so you know, I don't know what the actual album date will be. Full album that. I think that's been a couple months, just so you know. But it's the first single from it, so I. I think this is like, talk about timing. To the max, Jeff. I mean, I don't know who orchestrated those dots, but I'm so pumped.
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Jeff Zito
Right on. Right before Valentine's Day. So let's, let's take it all the way back, Mary. I mean, you are a. You're born and raised in Kentucky, but you're in Nashville now. Kind of tell me a little bit about when, when you were little and music in your life. Who, who was that important figure in your life that had, you know, brought music to, to the threshold for you? Was it in the family or did you find it on your own?
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Mary Cutter
Well, you know, that's a real good question. You think about it, you know, just baking a cake, there's so many different ingredients that go into it, right? But sometimes we taste the sugar more the flower, you know. But, you know, both of my parents are very musical, but they, you know, they're civilians, like I like to call folks that are in the music industry. And. But as a little girl, my mom decided that it would be good for my big brother and me to take piano lessons. And there's this lady named Ms. Janine that lived, you know, I guess, just 10 minutes away from our house. And we started taking weekly piano lessons. And she had these cats and Jeff, they were the cutest cast because I was six years old, and I remember her kitty cats had had a litter of kittens. And. This is wild. A couple months ago, my mom told me this story, and I had kind of forgotten because I was so little. But apparently one day, you know, after the lesson or whatever, I was playing with the kittens, and I must have been singing to them. And Ms. Janine, she was like, oh, my gosh, I didn't know you could sing. And she's like, come over here. And she goes to the piano and she starts playing that old classic song, Moon River. And she was, she taught me how to sing that song. And fast forward a couple of months. She didn't tell my parents or anything about it. Just, you know, every week for our lesson, we do piano stuff. But then she'd sing with me. And that year for the recital, I got up there, played something with Mozart or whatever. But then she says, well, y', all, we have a. We have a little special surprise today. Mary's gonna sing for you. And that was the first song that I'd ever sung. And that was kind of the beginning of all the things. So if her cats and I had kittens, I don't know if, you know, I would be doing this now, which.
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Jeff Zito
Is w. And, and you said your parents are civilians. That's fun. I, I, I, I say the same very similar thing. What, what type of business was, Was mom and dad into.
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Mary Cutter
My mom. She was a school teacher in the public school system, and she later became a principal. And, you know, she was so incredible at her job and she was so passionate about what she did. She really loved the kids. Obviously. I feel like people that go into the education world, they. They gotta love kids to be doing it. But I remember just as, you know, a little girl seeing how, I mean, she get up every morning, 4:30 in the morning, and she'd work till late, normally, 10, 11 at night. I mean, she was so passionate about her job. And now the morning, early mornings, you know, she'd, you know, read her Bible and exercise and all that, but she was go win work ethic plus. And. And my daddy, he had, you know, had a couple of different jobs growing up. He. He was an engineer for a while, and then later on he ended up going into recruiting mainly automotive companies where he'd place people from maintenance all the way up yonder to vice president companies. His people skills, my goodness, if in another life he should have been in politics, I mean, but same thing where I remember as a little girl sitting around the kitchen table, him just talking about his deals he was working on, the people he had talked to. And both of my parents were so passionate about what they got to wake up and do every day. And I think as a little kid that that just kind of leaves in your brain, you know, and there. Because there's so many different passions someone can have, obviously, you know, but I knew I wanted to, you know, if you're going to be working, you might as well be doing something you love, you know, and. And I got to tell you too, this is wild. So back in 2020, you know, the world shuts down and I'm fast forwarded a little bit, I guess, in the story, but everything in Nashville, I was living in Nashville at that point in time, everything went cold, just it seemed like overnight. And I remember, you know, business just stopped, you know, just like just about every business did, you know. And I remember I called up my daddy and I was like, well, what do I need to do now? You know, and he said, well, Mary, you know, the automotive companies, they ain't hiring right now either. So I've got to think, you know, who is hiring? And it's either medical or food. And he was like, I don't know anything about the medical world, but I do know food. So he was like, so I'm going to focus in on that. You need to think about what you can focus on and, you know, really give it your all. And I remember I got off the phone with them and I and I thought, well, you know, I can't play shows, companies aren't taking meetings. I didn't have a publishing deal or anything like that yet, but I knew that I could write songs. And so for the entire shutdown, I mean, I was riding seven days a week. Anyone that was zoom right with me. I literally was doing two sessions a day every day, a lot of days, three a days. And it was during that time that I wrote some of the songs that started to open doors. And so it's just really wild. I do think that, you know, you look back on your life and just even as far along as I am, you know, there are certain people that make such a huge impact on it. And for me, you know, my parents.
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Jeff Zito
Well, it seems like you definitely got the gift. You said your dad had an ab to talk to people and he should have been a politician. He definitely rubbed off on you. You're.
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Mary Cutter
Well, I do, I do love talking. I love listening to stories too. But you know, it's fun to connect with people. Of course you've got the gift of gab or you would, you know, be doing what you're doing and you know, it is really fun and to connect with people. There's so many interesting people in the world.
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Jeff Zito
You're a people person and, and I, I, that's why I do this too is I, I love, I love hearing other people's stories. I'm liking gay. I love just to hear the different paths and how people got to where they are. And I can tell you mar that you, you really got where you are because of your personality. You're just a. You're very bubbly and very easy to talk to and I feel like people, you know, might just fall in love with you just by, just by talking to you.
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Mary Cutter
So means a lot to me.
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Jeff Zito
So you're so let's go to when You. You're telling me about the. The whole world shuts down during COVID and you're really serious about writing songs. Take me a little bit before that point. When did you get into the, you know, the machine, the Nashville machine of, you know, if anybody doesn't really know about the music business, I can tell you there's the music business and then there's Nashville. There's. There's two different things, and that's true. And the Nashville machine, it's such a. Like a. I don't want to say a good old boys network, but it really is a club, and you've got to be a member of this club, and it's really tough to kind of get in. Into that world. So was during COVID when you started writing songs and working with other people, was that the beginning of. Of you in the Nashville machine, or tell me how you kind of broke through and kind of got started.
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Mary Cutter
You know, you're right. That was kind of the era where the rotten started to kind of move the dial a little bit. But it did start before that. So. I have mad respect for you, Jeff. What you do, you know, I have of. I'll tell you what got me to Nashville was kind of in a similar world of what you swim in. You've done it, obviously, pro 10 out of 10, top of the, you know, heat. But I. Whenever I got out of school, graduated high school, I did not have a clue of how the music business work. I just knew how to sing songs. You know, fast forward the timeline between Ms. Janine with the Kittens through high school. You know, I was singing it Church and 4H talent shows and fairs and festivals, but really anywhere they'd let me set up and play and, you know, one show would turn into another than another. And that's how I was making my bread and butter, you know, Kentucky, Indiana, Tennessee, just. Just driving places, you know, and singing songs. Mainly cover songs.
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Narrator/Voiceover
Okay.
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Mary Cutter
Well, somewhere along the way, I kept running into this feller backstage at different events, and turned out he owned a couple radio stations and a TV station right outside Louisville, Kentucky. And we'd cross paths, shake hands, just keep on moving. And I mean, months flew by like that. But one day he called me up, he asked me to come to his office and said he had a business proposition. And I figured maybe he might want me to open for a show or singing something that he was hosting. But I sit down and he says, I want to start a weekly music variety show, and I want a Kentuckian to host it. And you're the first person I thought of.
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Jeff Zito
Okay.
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Mary Cutter
And I remember I left his office and I was just kind of stunned because I had. I had no experience doing anything with radio or talking in a, you know, a professional manner. Just talking, you know. But I remember I called up my dad said, well, I don't know how to even host a show. I just sing songs. And he said, hey, you don't know what this might do for you. It could change your whole life. You ought to try it. And so I said, yes. And every week, what ended up happening was this was the roadmap to Nashville. I was having three or four guests on the show. I would sing and open and close the show. And folks, you know, that were on radio tour, big songwriters playing songs, you know, I'd grown up on, I interview them, sing with them, open and close the show, you know. But a lot of those guests, once we were off air, we just get to talking and they find out that, you know, I was a singer and they'd asked to write. And so where I grew up in Kentucky, it was just about two and a half hours from Nashville.
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Jeff Zito
Okay.
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Mary Cutter
And anyway, it was during that era of hosting that. That radio show that I was driving back and forth, right, with people, and it was honestly just like anything else in the music business. You know, you. You write with Billy Bob, and then Billy Bob's like, oh, you gotta write with Sally. Then you write with Sally, and Sally's like, oh, have you written with Becky yet? And before I knew it, I was writing in a lot of rooms that, you know, looking back, I don't know if I really had the. I definitely didn't have the experience. You know, I was fresh off the turnip truck. But that was the beginning of kind of diving into the Nashville scene. And then once I moved to Nashville, I knew I had to make money somehow. And so I started hosting different writers rounds. I don't know if you've ever been to those, Jeff.
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Jeff Zito
I have not, but I've heard all about them. It seems very. It's. It's very fascinating to me. But yeah, explain to me the. The writers rooms.
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Mary Cutter
It's so cool, essentially. And they have them all over the city where, you know, it's literally from writers room to writer's RA around is the songs or sometimes songs that you've heard fully produced on the radio, but a lot of times they're brand new songs that, you know, writers will get up there with the guitar or their keyboard and they'll tell the backstory of the Song and they'll play, and there'll be four, three or four guests on stage at a time. And I was hosting different nights at the different bars in midtown. And a lot of the folks that would be in the audience were other writers, artists, business people. And that was kind of, you know, really just the way I met a lot of people. And so I was riding during the day, then hosting those shows at night, right up until the pandemic. And then, of course, the infamous phone call with my dad where he was like, yo, buckle down on what you can control. So that's. That's kind of how it happened for me.
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Jeff Zito
You know, it's so. I mean, look, there's so many people, and I'm sure they. They come up to you just like they come up to me. People. People will say, like, how do I get into. How do I get into it? How do I do this? How do I. You know, And I think you just gave such a great example of what to do. So nobody knows, right? Nobody. Nobody knows what they're doing. How do I get into radio? How do I get into country? How do I get into songwriting? You know, the answer is just do it. Nobody knows. Nobody knows what they're doing, right? Nobody. You had no idea how to host a show, but you met this guy and you did it, and then you met other people and you did it. And that, I mean, I think just do it. You know, nobody knows the exact starting point. You know, what, What? They're just do it. You know, if you're really passionate about something, you got to just. I mean, yeah, there's. There's a playbook for. For everything. But everybody's playbook is different, right? So yours is definitely different than. And then a lot of other people. So before country music, before writing songs, what was your first job?
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Jeff Zito
Sido before country music, before writing songs, what was your first job, man?
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Mary Cutter
Well, you know, right. Right out of high school is when I started playing all the different cover gigs. So I don't know if that's what you would kind of count as the first. Making a little bit of money here and there, you know. And then WBRT was my first true employer.
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Jeff Zito
So, you know, and for radio. So that your first job was. Was basically hosting these, these shows for the radio station. Did you, when you were growing up, when you were a kid, when you were in high school, did you ever work at the mall? Did you ever, you know, did you ever have a job like, like that? Or was that your. Your very first paycheck was from the radio station?
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Mary Cutter
Well, the mall for us was about an hour, hour and a half away, so I didn't work at the mall or anything, but I was really active in 4H, so I was, I mean, I was, was gone a lot with that actually represent our county. I sound real country right now. Doing a lot of, a lot of high school. And then also I was in the marching band, state champions two years in a row.
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Jeff Zito
Awesome.
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Mary Cutter
And I was the field commander for that. So my folks, you know, they had my brother and me really active in the extracurriculars, so I didn't have, you know, I wasn't flipping burgers. You know, I ate a lot of burgers, so I will say that. But my first true paycheck was, you know, from the different, you know, gigs that I was playing and then, and then wbrt, which is pretty wild.
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Jeff Zito
That is pretty wild. That's cool. What, what do you. And do you. Do you consider that meeting with the guy that owned the radio station? I mean, he really, to me, it seems like he really opened up a lot of doors for you. What, what do you think if it wasn't that, was there a particular big break? And I know you've written a lot of songs for other established country artists that, that have gone on to chart and, and do very well. What do you. Is there, like a moment in time where something happened where you were like, mary Cutter, you're gone. This is it, man. This is. This is what it Is So was there like a life changing moment for you that you can look back on maybe right now, reminisce a little bit? That's something. Because I think the best is yet to come. Mary, maybe. Maybe it's this conversation that we're having right now. Who knows? But up until now, absolutely. What do you think? What do you. Was that big break that really got you where you're at right now?
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Mary Cutter
I really love that. And, you know, that's a really good point too. You know, if I hadn't sat down with Roth Stratton, that's his name, who on the radio stations, who knows, you know, if I even would have come to Nashville and, you know, of course, you know, after I moved to town was when I was writing, you know, for those different artists that, you know, some of those songwriting credits, you know, opened up a lot of doors for me in town, I will say, with my, with my own artistry, I'll say it was really when I started just posting every single day songs that I was writing that I was singing on, and I was just throwing them out into the universe. And I remember I was back at home, back at home for the holidays up in Kentucky. And I had written this song. It wasn't out or anything, but I'd written it. I had a little demo of it. It was about my great granddaddy who was a bootlegger and he had built a church using some of the money that he had been making from bootlegging. Anyway, I remember I was back home and I thought to myself, man, you know, it really would be kind of cool to film that song, you know, out in front of the church, you know, because it's still standing and everything. And of course I, I went out and filmed that. At that point, I had zero numbers. Okay, I've been rotten and everything, but on social media I had had no following at all. I just really been using the last couple years right for other folks. But I went out to that church and I just filmed a little verse chorus of it. And I remember the next morning I woke up and it was almost 6 million views.
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Narrator/Voiceover
Wow.
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Mary Cutter
And that was just kind of. It just had this explosive moment and. And I'd always told myself, because I, you know, I had, you know, I'm friends with a lot of artists in town that, you know, maybe they got their start from social media. And I had always told myself if I ever had a little piece of momentum that maybe gets, you know, a little spark or something, I was going to keep the pedal down.
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Narrator/Voiceover
Right.
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Mary Cutter
And so as soon as that, you know, hit, I was like, all right, baby, let's go. And I called up on my co writer friends. I was like, y', all, you know, because I've been riding a ton. I remember that year I'd had 452 sessions writing, man.
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Jeff Zito
Wow.
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Mary Cutter
And I was riding a lot. But maybe a dozen of them were for me. I mean, almost everything thing, you know, was writing for other artists to sing. And, you know, I was real blessed, you know, at that point. You know, I've been having some songs that charted and songs and movies and commercials and all that, but I just, you know, hadn't really flipped the switch yet. I knew I wanted to, but I didn't really know how to. Which goes back to what you were just saying. You need to just do it.
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Jeff Zito
Just do it anyway.
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Mary Cutter
But I call my buddies after that song pops off, I was like, all right, y', all, we gotta write some more songs. And so we just, you know, I started writing at nights and weekends so I would have more songs to be posting and sharing with folks and. And it just kind of. The rocket ship started and it didn't really stop, and now here we are.
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Jeff Zito
Wow, that's amazing. You know, I don't. And there's so many people listening out there. Well, first of all, I wanted to say this. There's so many people listening out there that thinks, like, going viral. That's what everybody's trying to do, right? It's not that easy. You just don't put something out there and sick. And the next day, 6 million people are, you know, have listened. That does not happen. And I know there's these social media influencers, and that's their goal, but I mean, everybody knows that does not happen. So that happened for you. Tell me just a little bit about. In case people don't realize, maybe some people that are. Are not from the south, they don't realize what bootlegging is. You talked about that song was about your grandfather, and he was a bootlegger, and. And it was back in the south that, you know, back in the day where, you know, they had to be careful about, you know, selling moonshine and whiskey and stuff like that. Tell us a little bit about bootlegging.
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Mary Cutter
Absolutely. Well, you know, I grew up hearing stories about my great granddaddy, and he was really. He lived a very colorful life. He was an orphan, and he, you know, pulled himself up by his bootstraps and he got into real estate at. At one last gold rush, which is. He was Born, actually, this is my great granddaddy. And big age gaps in between literally every generation. And my grandpa was his ninth out of 10th children. So my great granddaddy, the last gold rush of it was like 1890 something. He even went out to look for gold. So this guy was like, he was ready for some action, you know, just.
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Jeff Zito
He's a hustler.
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Mary Cutter
Yeah, he was a hustler. Well, he got into bootlegging whenever prohibition hit, hit. And I mean, this fell. My goodness. He really did definitely create a little empire for himself. But whenever the stock market crashed, this story has always stayed with me because he really built something so huge. Well, when the stock market crashed, he lost everything. I mean, literally everything. And he had multiple mansions in central Kentucky. One of them is a. Is owned by the government now, actually. You can go get married there, have a party there. It's called Wickland. It's absolutely beautiful. And I mean, he actually had a run in with Al Capone there.
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Jeff Zito
Oh, wow.
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Mary Cutter
He was a very interesting character, but it always struck me so interesting that obviously he was not a choir boy if he was a bootlegger, you know what I'm saying? But you know, you don't run in without Capone for just selling Girl Scout cookies. But he obviously really loved his community and he was a man of faith and there's just a lot of moral gray. But growing up, I was just so, so fascinated with this story.
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Jeff Zito
It's a cool story.
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Mary Cutter
Whenever I wrote the song, I don't know, I wasn't expecting folks to even necessarily, you know, I didn't know how people are going to respond because it's kind of a niche idea, I guess. But it was really wild. Whenever I had shared it online, so many folks were commenting, saying, my great grandfather was a bootlegger. Oh, my great uncle ran Sean back in eastern Kentucky. Oh, blah, blah. And it was like, it was really, really fascinating. It. It sounds like it was something that maybe a lot of the folks. Folks, you know, were doing during that era. Maybe a little bit before, a little bit after as well. But it's pretty wild.
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Jeff Zito
It is. And you know what's different about you, Mary Cutter? And I'm. I'm sure you've been told this before, but in, in country, in. In the genre of country, it's. It's really buttoned up and it's, you know, it's a. It's about growing up. It's about wholesome values. It's about Jesus. It's right. And it seems like a lot of your songs, you're. You're on the cutting edge of reality, you know, And. And some of your songs are a little risque. And I was listening, and I think. And I think it should be taken that way because it's not being done. You know what I mean? And. And I. And I look at other guys maybe like. Like Jelly Roll, who is maybe somewhat in that. In that world where it's, you know, he talks about some things. Like, I was listening to one of your songs, which was called Devil. Devil Wears a Lab Coat. I think that was what, the title of it.
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Mary Cutter
Yes.
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Jeff Zito
And it was such a cool concept, and it was just about, you know, the world today, and they're prescribing drugs to people, yet, you know, this guy's getting rich, and the guy that's getting the drugs is got. Got a. You know, a ticket to an early grave. And so I see you being very not controversial, but in. In the world of country three, you're doing something a little different, which I think is gonna really cut through to a lot of people.
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Mary Cutter
That means so much to me. Thank you. And it means a lot that you were. You know, listen to my songs too. Just, you know, this is the thing. I. I find myself being more intrigued about writing about real stuff, gritty stuff. You know, there's nothing wrong with a love song or a heartbreak song or a song about drinking. You know, Lord knows I have written plenty of those.
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Jeff Zito
Right.
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Mary Cutter
But I find myself, you know, like the devil wears a laughter clip or a lab coat. I found myself, you know, thinking about, you know, my hometown. And I mean, just to give you just a little peek into what it's done to Kentucky, what Big Pharma did. We had a little local college that they ended up closing that college and using the entire campus for a rehab center. There's a whole lot more of a demand for rehab centers than education. I mean, it's really crazy. And anyway, I remember I was told by a handful of people, you really do not need to write this song. I remember being in different writing rooms pitching the idea, and people would be like, song about Big Pharma. What else you got right? But we ended up writing the song, and I posted that, and that was another song that, you know, it's wild. Jeff, this is crazy. Talking about numbers right quick. Remember that, you know, the song about my great granddaddy who, you know, built the church. That song, you know, did what it did on social media. And I remember thinking, well, I don't know if that's ever going to happen again. Well, well, I posted a lab coat right after I wrote it. I was on the family farm visiting the folks and I'm just walking through the field lip syncing the song. That song has over that one video has over 17 million views.
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Jeff Zito
Wow.
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Mary Cutter
And you know, this is the thing. I won't claim to be. I'm not a social media whatever, but I'm just sharing my songs, you know, and it just shows that people want to hear songs about that are saying something. Yes, that's what it tells me anyway. It's relatable.
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Jeff Zito
It's relatable. I think that's the thing too. Like there's a lot of people out there going through stuff and if they can relate to, to the content. And I think there's a ton of people that are relating to what you're talking about.
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Jeff Zito
Zito Mary have you ever thought about this? Like, like, okay, you're a little girl. You're talking about being, you know, with the piano teacher and this, the litter of kittens and you're, you know, all this and. But at the end of the day, in the back of your mind, you had to be thinking like, well, that's a dream, right? So if my dream doesn't come to come to fruition, what would I be doing with my life? Have you ever thought about like a backup plan or another. Another field, you know, another, another job field or another path. Path to take in case country music didn't work out, Was there ever that thought in your mind, or were you just so young and you're just like, man, we're.
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We're diving in head first. There's no backup plan here. But was there ever anything that interested you back when you were in school that you thought maybe you would go into? If music, you know, it's tough, it's a dream, you know, it's a million to one shot, you know? And did you ever think about that or.
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Narrator/Voiceover
Or. No.
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Mary Cutter
Well, you know, Nashville felt like it might as well have been Australia when I was growing up in Kentucky. I know it's not that far away, and I. I guess I just grew up under a rock in some ways, you know, but growing up, you know, I seen, you know, my parents, you know, teacher recruiter, and they both love their job so much. Before I knew anything about anything, you know, with what actually goes into those jobs, I was like, oh, that'd be great. But then I was like, okay, maybe I wouldn't be good at explaining things or, you know, knowing all the intricacies of, you know, how all the different roles at a company works, you know? But I will say I always was fascinated with the idea of, you know, authors and also, you know, like, Robin Roberts. What a great gig.
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Jeff Zito
Awesome.
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Mary Cutter
You know what I'm saying?
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Jeff Zito
Started out in sports, too. Sports journalist, right.
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Mary Cutter
Total boss. And, you know, she gets to deliver news that makes you feel good.
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Jeff Zito
Absolutely.
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Mary Cutter
Yeah, she kind of does. Like what you do every day. You know, you talk to, you know, cool people and you get to find out about them. I think that's pretty cool. I think that or like, you know, writing books. I just think. I guess it's what I get to do every day with songs. Just a little bit shorter versions, but sure.
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Jeff Zito
Anyway, you are a good writer in school. You got good grades in English class.
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Mary Cutter
I was very studious. And I loved English class. I was. I can't say I'm that great at grammar, though. But, you know, other than that, none of us are, you know, I really. I remember whenever we used to do short stories, and I would, you know, of course, write more than we were even supposed to. I just. I loved writing and reading. I remember. I'll tell you how nerdy I was, Jeff. I remember in high school, this is almost. I don't know why I'm telling you this. My gosh. Okay. Well, anyway, I remember social studies. It was US History, and I read the entire textbook. Remember how big those textbooks are?
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Jeff Zito
Yeah, the entire 2 inches cover to cover? Yeah, cover to cover.
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Mary Cutter
I loved it. It was so fascinating. But that was me in school. I was the band kid that was. Was hardcore 4H, and I was reading books and I was singing songs on the weekend, you know, that was me.
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Jeff Zito
Wow. Unbelievable. Well, I, I gotta tell you, you're. You're real fascinating. I love hearing your story. And bed of roses, February 13th. What's the name of. Of your album? Do you even have a name of the album yet or.
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Narrator/Voiceover
No?
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Mary Cutter
Well, we have a working title, but we'll be announcing it soon. That might be shifting, you know what I'm saying? It's kind of like everything else, you know, with Creative Land, we're simmering on some options. But I'll tell you what. What? I'm so excited about this album. You know, I've got a great team around.
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Jeff Zito
Yes, you do.
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Mary Cutter
Musicians recording on these puppies. I'm just, I'm so excited about recording a recording album that hopefully, you know, every morning I run five miles, I get up at 5am and I go for my run. And last year I started my New Year's. Resolution was. And I. And I followed through 365 different albums I listened to last year.
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Narrator/Voiceover
Right.
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Mary Cutter
And, you know, while I've been putting together this record, I just, I hope it can kind of live in the same ballpark as some of these albums I've listened to where they just. They can be 20, 30 years old and they're still incredible.
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Jeff Zito
What do you listen?
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Mary Cutter
It's very exciting.
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Jeff Zito
What do you listen to do? Is there, Is there something people would be like, shocked, like, if you said, yeah, you know what? I listened to Five Fingered Death Punch. Or is there something people would be like, shocked to know that you listen, you listen to. Do you listen to primarily country, you listen to all different genres? Or is there something wacky out there that you're really into?
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Mary Cutter
My favorite band is acdc.
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Jeff Zito
Oh, me too.
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Mary Cutter
Is it really?
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Mary Cutter
Have you seen them live? Have you seen them live?
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Jeff Zito
I just saw them live on my birthday for the very first time. We bought tickets and it was good for you.
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Mary Cutter
Wasn't it incredible?
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Jeff Zito
It was incredible. And I got, I got the, the horns right here. The Angus, the Angus Young double horns right here. I'm. I'm looking at them right now, so it was the first time I saw them live and it was by far one of the greatest shows ever. It was so great.
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Mary Cutter
Oh, they're phenomenal. And I guess I saw them the same month as you because your birthday's in May. I saw them last May as well as the day before. I wrote Bed of Roses.
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Jeff Zito
Oh, wow.
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Mary Cutter
Very first time I've ever seen them. It was. They were phenomenal. They were so phenomenal and something. I did not have great seats. I will be real with you. I was more expensive.
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Jeff Zito
Yeah, I know. I wasn't great either. Yeah.
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Mary Cutter
But I remember it was so fascinating to me how you know. And you know what I'm talking about. Every single song would start, that guitar riff would start, but everyone would know what the song was, you know, and then the crowd chanting. And I was like, I want to write a song like this. And I literally texted my co writers at the concert. I said, y', all, I'm at the CDC concert right now. And I told them. I just told you. I said, we gotta write right tomorrow. Something with an iconic music intro that people will know as soon as it starts. And I want us to have a chance section. And they were like, okay. It was like 11 o' clock at night. And that's so crazy, Jeff.
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Jeff Zito
That's really cool.
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Mary Cutter
Well, great minds ACDC alike.
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Jeff Zito
I think so. And I'm looking at one of your press pictures. You're wearing a leather jacket. You really do have some. A little bit of a rock edge to you.
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Mary Cutter
I love classic rock. I love it.
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Narrator/Voiceover
Well, it.
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Jeff Zito
It kind of comes. Comes through. It kind of comes through in your music. Bed of roses. February 13th. You just talked a a little bit earlier about waking up in the morning, going for a run. What else does Mary Cutter love to do when you're not working? Is there any kind of hobbies or things you're passionate about outside of music?
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Mary Cutter
Well, this might be a very unsexy thing to say, but I really do love a good TV show or movie. I love watching tv. And right now I'm a little bit lost late on it, but Desperate Housewives, now, I like all different things. House of Cards is one of my favorite shows, but I stumbled upon Desperate Housewives. It is so good. Not the reality TV show version. I haven't watched that. But this was like, started in like, 04.
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Jeff Zito
Are you talking about with Eva Longoria and all that?
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Mary Cutter
Yes.
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Jeff Zito
Yeah. Okay.
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Mary Cutter
So good.
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Jeff Zito
Yeah, so good.
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Mary Cutter
I'm in season two right now. I think. I think last night I finished episode 12. And I'm just. I don't know how they're going to keep it going. So many seasons, but it's so, so good. I love T tv. I love movies. I actually, maybe about a year ago, I got that little movie Pass unlimited movies to Regal Cinema. It's awesome. I can. If you go twice a month. You paid for it. So. I really do love. I think it's the stories. Yeah, that's really what you think.
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Jeff Zito
You think that you see movies or maybe acting or something like that. Near future.
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Mary Cutter
That'd be really cool.
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Jeff Zito
Yeah. I mean, I think you got. I mean, hey, look, I'm not trying to be a creep here or anything, but kind of easy on the eyes, everybody. I'm just saying. What. I'm just saying the truth. I don't want to sound like a creep, but I'm just saying it's just.
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Mary Cutter
Things better that the other way around.
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Jeff Zito
You know what I'm saying?
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Mary Cutter
I appreciate.
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Jeff Zito
Absolutely. Mary Kutter is her name and that's with a K. Mary K U T T E R dot com for all the information on where she's coming. She's touring. She's playing a. You know, one of the biggest country shows, Tortuga, which is in Florida, the huge show. So you'll be able to see her there. And all the information, like I said, when her album's gonna come out, when they figure that out. Mary Cutter with a K. Mary K-U T-T-E-R.com and Bed of Roses is the first single. You guys gotta check it out right now. It's been such a great time. I mean, I feel like we've known each other for a long time and. But we. I think we hit it off and it was a real great conversation. I'm really glad you, you took time out today and. And were able to give me a call.
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Mary Cutter
Jeff, you're such a rock star. And whenever you're up in Nashville, let me know and I'll take you out to coffee or when I'm down in your neck of the woods, hopefully I get to see.
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Jeff Zito
Yes, yes. And don't, don't, don't be afraid when I take you up on that because my. My sounds good. My bff FF Charlie P. Right up there in Nashville. So I've been known. I've been known to stop in. I've been known to stop in from time to time. So we'll see you.
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Mary Cutter
That sounds great. Well, I can't wait to give you a hug. I appreciate you, Sugar Mary.
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Jeff Zito
Thank you so much. Good luck to you.
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Mary Cutter
Thank you. Thank you. Bye.
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Jeff Zito
I mean, do you love her? Is it just me? Is it because she called me baby doll and sugar for the last 35 minutes? I mean, I don't know, maybe. But what A personality. I think she's going to be successful and I think she would have been successful at anything that she does. Look, her mom was a teacher. Her father was, you know, kind of a white collar executive in the recruiting field, if you will. He seemed like he had a pretty good high paying job, but they lived out there in Kentucky and she talked about piano lessons when she was very, very young. Ms. Janine pretty much discovered that she had a voice voice when she was just a little kid. What would Mary Cutter have been if not a country artist? I'm pretty sure that when she said a writer of some sort, I can see it. You listen to her songs, they're really telling stories. She's an excellent writer and she's got a real knack for painting a picture. You can find out more about Mary on her website, which is Mary Kutter dot com. That's K U T T E R Mary Kutter dot com. Her new single drops today. Bed of Roses. I have a really good feeling about her. As soon as I got off the phone with Mary, I looked out my backyard and my house backs up to a farm. I got horses and cows. All the cows were gathered in a circle. And I noticed they were all surrounding one cow that was on the ground. I saw there was some. Something small flipping around. And I noticed there was actually a calf being born. And it was stuck. The head and front two legs were hanging out, but the, the back half of the calf wouldn't come out. And the cow is kind of struggling and getting up and falling down and the calf is just going crazy. And, and I talked to a friend of mine who raises calves. He's like, that's not normal. You gotta call somebody. So who, who in the hell am I gonna call? So I called the cops. I told him the story. They called me back about 10 minutes later and they said they contacted the owner, the. Of owner of the property. And thank you very much, they're on their way to help right now. So the guys actually come a few minutes later and they're really wrestling, trying to get this calf out of the cow. And after a few minutes they come over to me as I'm just kind of standing in my yard watching this. And the guy said, hey, you got shoes on? I said, no, but I, I live right in this house. And the guy goes, well, we could really use your help or else this cow and this calf are going to die. So I spring into action, run into the house, put my shoes on, I run back out. They help me over the barbed wire fence. I get up next to this cow. I've never been that close to a cow before. It's like, ah, snarling and it's like, and it's like really pissed that I'm not close to her. The guy hands me the tail of the cow. He says, here, hold this like a rope and now put your foot on the cow's ass and pull the tail, which will hold the back end open while I try to pull out the calf. And after about a minute or so, these guys ended up pulling the calf out. And, and it was, it was amazing. Right after I got off with Mary Cutter, I delivered a calf. And by the way, it was a girl, so maybe we'll name her Mary. Anyway, thank you so much for listening to another episode of the Celebrity Jobber Podcast. You can follow on Instagram Celebrity Underscore Jobber Underscore Podcast or also the YouTube channel, which is YouTube.com theat sign celebrityjob jobber. You can also check out past guests and episodes on celebrityjobber.com and streaming everywhere. So please subscribe. Would love a 5 star rating and of course please leave a review. I think Mary Cutter is going to be a star. Check out her new song Bed of Roses, which is out now and again her website which is Mary Kutter with a K K U T T E R Commerce. As always, I appreciate your listening and until next week, we'll see you then right here on the Celebrity Jobber Podcast. I'm Jeff Zito.
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