Podcast Summary: Celtics Beat, Episode 656 – "Is Jaylen a Top Five NBA Player This Year?" w/ Bobby Manning
Date: December 27, 2025
Host: Adam Kaufman (CLNS Media)
Guests: Bobby Manning (CLNS Media, Garden Report), Evan Valenti
Episode Overview
This episode of Celtics Beat dives deep into the Boston Celtics’ unexpectedly strong 2025 season, with a particular focus on Jaylen Brown’s transformation into a potential top five NBA player. Host Adam Kaufman, joined by Bobby Manning and Evan Valenti, discuss the Celtics’ first half, Joe Mazzulla’s coaching evolution, and Brown’s leap from star to franchise centerpiece while Jayson Tatum recovers from injury. The episode also explores the dynamic between Brown and Tatum, Boston’s midseason roster needs, and the broader landscape of NBA talent.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Celtics' Surprising First-Half Success
- Current Record: Celtics are 19–11, exceeding preseason expectations and on pace for 50+ wins.
- “Great. Better than you could have imagined... They are now on pace to win over 50 games this season.” – Bobby Manning [03:47]
- The East is weaker than anticipated, allowing Boston to climb to the top three.
- A favorable schedule ahead could fuel a speculated nine-game win streak.
2. Joe Mazzulla’s Coaching Evolution
- Mazzulla’s adaptability, bold roster choices, and trust in player development have driven success.
- “It is a complete reversal of what they’ve done in certain ways in the past... I cannot overstate how incredible the job that Joe Missoula is doing this year.” – Evan Valenti [06:59]
- “He keeps one-upping himself.” – Bobby Manning [09:12]
- Strategic changes: higher foul rates, more offensive rebounding, increased steals, willingness to shuffle rotation and bench veterans.
- Players buy in to sacrifice and rotation changes; depth development has been impressive.
3. The Jaylen Brown Leap: Top Five Player?
- Brown's December: Averaging 32 PPG, league-leading this month, with multiple 30+ point games.
- “He is averaging 32 points per game this month. He is leading the NBA in points per game this month.” – Adam Kaufman [12:00]
- Statistical profile: ~29.4 PPG (6th in NBA), 6.5 RPG, ~5 APG. Massive jump from previous seasons.
- Improved midrange mastery, efficiency, and playmaking. Brown tied with SGA for top midrange efficiency (49.4%), surpassing even Kevin Durant. [34:50]
- Brown’s durability and team focus set him apart as a first team All-NBA candidate.
- “Yeah, absolutely. I think when you’re looking at first team... he’s played so many games this year, all but two. The durability coming off the surgery in particular has been super impressive.” – Bobby Manning [14:25]
- “The leap that he made wasn’t a small one... To go from there to there is the hardest leap to make I think in the game. And he made it essentially over the off season.” – Evan Valenti [20:08]
Notable Quotes – The Brown Evolution
- “I will readily acknowledge things I had wrong... I didn’t think we were going to look at a jump that had him averaging around 30 points per game.” – Adam Kaufman [12:00]
- “He’s maybe the best mid range shooter in the league this season.” – Bobby Manning [21:32]
- “It’s been ridiculous... We’re all—it’s Jaylen’s world, we’re all living in it currently, buddy.” – Evan Valenti [32:11]
4. Midrange Mastery & Offensive Scheme
- Boston’s offense is highly reliant on midrange shooting, led by Brown.
- “They don’t run super fast... They don’t cut... It’s all jump shots and they hit ‘em, he hits all his mid rangers.” – Bobby Manning [21:32]
- “He’s become Kevin Durant.” – Adam Kaufman [22:55]
- Advanced stats: Celtics have the second-best offensive rating in the NBA, despite heavy roster turnover and Tatum's absence.
5. Brown vs. Tatum: Who’s the “1”?
- Hypothetical: Would the Celtics be better, worse, or the same with Tatum instead of Brown this season?
- “I do contend that Tatum’s still a little bit ahead of him in terms of the overall game. And it is that rebounding, it’s the level he got to as a playmaker last year in the championship year certainly as well.” – Bobby Manning [38:00]
- Consensus: Boston would likely be similarly successful—or perhaps a few games better—with Tatum due to his playmaking, defense, and rebounding, but Brown has decisively proven himself as a viable “1A” option.
Notable Moments
- Reference to past criticisms of Brown’s ranking among NBA players (e.g., Brandon Anderson’s list).
- The analogy: Tatum as Steph, Brown as Klay—now “Brown is not a two, he’s a one. You have two 1-caliber guys.” [40:11]
6. Brown’s Mindset and Locker Room Dynamics
- Brown’s evolution is attributed to his mindset, work ethic, and team-first attitude.
- “I think it matters to him... I think he’s been open about the fact that yes, I’ve had to sacrifice, I’m capable of leading a team.” – Bobby Manning [42:07]
- Both Brown and Tatum understanding the value of their partnership: “As long as you have these two, you can figure out everything else around them.” [44:57]
- Brown's leadership, advocacy for teammates (like Jordan Walsh), and willingness to play through adversity highlighted.
7. Roster Outlook & Trade Deadline
- Likely needs at trade deadline: Another frontcourt piece, potentially a four who can play the five.
- “If they can... standing pat would be a win to me because it means you're going to pay a little tax, you're going to stay above that line, you're going to keep this group together and you're going to go for it with them.” – Bobby Manning [49:15]
- Mixed opinions on dealing assets like Sam Hauser for big-man help; emphasis on the eventual return of Tatum as the “biggest addition.”
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 03:47 – Celtics’ record, outlook, and early season surprises
- 06:59 – Joe Mazzulla’s coaching improvements and boldness
- 12:00 – Jaylen Brown’s December dominance/statistical leap
- 14:25 – Brown as a first team All-NBA candidate
- 21:32 – Brown’s midrange proficiency, comparison to KD and others
- 34:50 – Brown’s midrange shooting efficiency and comparison to league leaders
- 38:00 – Brown vs. Tatum: hypothetical season swap and skill comparison
- 42:07 – Brown’s mindset, leadership, and importance to the team dynamic
- 46:11 – The development of Boston’s wings and front office credit
- 49:15 – Trade deadline strategy and roster needs
Highlighted Quotes
- “He’s maybe the best midrange shooter in the league this season. Right up there with anybody else certainly... The only guys ahead of it—Shay. Yeah, it’s Shay and him. That’s pretty much it at that class in the NBA.” – Bobby Manning [34:50]
- “This is a huge leap—to be the primary guy on a team that’s contending for the number one seed in the Eastern Conference, that’s a different guy.” – Evan Valenti [20:08]
- “They really have everything they need except that Tatum piece.” – Bobby Manning [51:14]
Closing Thoughts
The episode makes a compelling case for Jaylen Brown’s elevation to top NBA status, due to both his individual brilliance and leadership in Tatum’s absence. The podcast underscores the Celtics’ organizational strength, adaptability, and the rare luxury of having two legitimate franchise wings. Looking ahead, the panel is optimistic but realistic, identifying roster tweaks over dramatic moves, with the team’s ceiling tied directly to Tatum’s return to full health.
Episode available on CLNS Media, with further Celtics coverage across their digital platforms.
