A (4:16)

Or chronic stress and trauma. Like, you know, when you grow up in a household that is just chronically, you know, abusive and unpredictable and.

B (4:25)

Right. Or being in a marriage where they're.

A (4:28)

Spiting and abuse sad.

B (4:31)

And cortisol shrinks the hippocampus, the major sort of mood and memory structure in the brain. And it makes you fat. It actually puts fat around your belly. And so having tools to manage your mental health are absolutely essential. And so many of my patients come in and I don't want to be anxious anymore. And I'm like, well, we're not going to get rid of your anxiety. Think of it on a scale of 0 to 100, yours is now 80. Let's cut it to 50. Right. I always want you to have enough anxiety, and you always give me enough anxiety about behaving properly. That's funny.

A (5:23)

Yeah. I tend to live. I tend to live a little high on the anxiety scale.

B (5:28)

You want to have enough anxiety that you make good decisions. You know, people who have low levels of anxiety die early from accidents and preventable illnesses. Actually, people have antisocial personality disorder. Their body's physiology doesn't react like most normal people, which is why they don't use lie detector tests in court. Because lie detector tests work for most normal people. But for people who are psychopaths or sociopaths, Right.

A (6:07)

They have no.

B (6:08)

They. They don't tend to react with sweat gland activity or muscle tension when they tell.

A (6:15)

Hence that. That's that term stone cold killer.

B (6:18)

They just like a little bit of reptilian. All right, so helping this mental health risk, appropriate anxiety, managing the stress, which I think it comes down to. And so many of my patients, killing the ants, the automatic negative thoughts that just steal their happiness.

A (6:40)

Well, and it really is. It's really interesting. I know I don't think I knew this until my adult years, but learning to discipline your mind and meditation and prayer and really learning to. I mean, for me, one of the things that really Helped me was learning to get that 30,000 foot view and ask yourself, you know, is, is this important? Is this going to matter? Like watching it from a distance, like a movie and you know, is this going to matter in a short time? You know what I mean? Like those types of skills which goes right along with killing the ants, but it's, it's those go hand in hand for me for just being able to manage your mind. And it makes such a massive difference in mental health for me.

B (7:24)

And the exercise I teach my patients, I teach every one of them this. Whenever you feel sad, mad, nervous or out of control, write down what you're thinking and then just ask yourself whether or not it's true, whether or not it's absolutely true, and meditate on the opposite of the thing that you're worrying about. So powerful. You know, my book, Captain Snout and the Superpower Questions, I'm so proud of that book. I mean, it has like almost a thousand reviews and parents say it makes a huge difference for the attitude of the kids, but it also makes a huge difference for them. So if you've not seen my book Captain Snout and the Superpower Questions, it's amazing. The second I in Bright minds. So important, important is immunity and infections. And this is such a big deal. And you remember when Chloe went off to Texas for college, she ended up with five infections like the big.

A (8:44)

And I don't think that's uncommon when kids leave for college because you think about it's their first time leaving home, they're in a dorm and they are, you know, they're surrounded by, you know, so many kids. They're living a lifestyle that is, you know, not the healthiest and they're not sleeping and they're up all night and they're, you know, they're first time being away from home and they're adulting and it's just not uncommon that this happens. So, you know, I think you try to explain to them how important this is and they just think you're being crazy.

B (9:16)

Well, and she'd also gotten the COVID vaccine right before where she went and.

A (9:20)

Got sick is she got Covid and pneumonia right afterwards. So that didn't.

B (9:25)

That was Covid pneumonia, Lyme disease, mono strep, a major cause of psychiatric illness, along with Epstein bar and strap.

A (9:40)

And, and it's just, it's. Some of these infections are just what go around doors. And I remember being so irritated because I remember them going, oh, she has the frat flu. And I'm like, what the hell is Frat flu. Like, it's just, like, they just put this weird label, like, this is just normal. And. But these kids are suffering, and many.

B (9:57)

College dorms are filled with mold. Right Then they're not sleeping and maybe drinking more than they should. It's just the prescription for disaster. But another one of the big lessons I've learned from imaging. It's like, I'm a psychiatrist. Why should I care about infectious disease? Because it's a major cause of psychiatric illness. There's actually in the journal of Alzheimer's Disease, a consensus statement with 33 scientists writing, infectious disease is a major cause of Alzheimer's disease, and nobody knows about it. Certain herpes viruses or mycoplasma pneumonia or toxoplasmosis. It's just very important to know about it. And ultimately, where does your immunity come from? 60% of it is in your gut. And so, like you were saying earlier, in fact, I remember this funny story. Our first date, you told me because I asked you why you wanted to be a nurse. And what did you say?

A (11:07)

Well, I was a frequent flyer in the hospital. I mean, so many people I knew were sick. Chronic disease ran in my. In my family, but I was always sick. And so I was a frequent flyer. And when I was four years old, I had upper and lower GI studies because I was sick all the time, and I had terrible, you know, stomach issues. So, yeah, I think it just.

B (11:27)

And then I.

A (11:27)

Natural transition.

B (11:29)

What happened at 4 years old, and you're like, here we go, shrink.

A (11:33)

Here we go.

B (11:34)

Here we go.

A (11:36)

There's a theme here.

B (11:37)

There's our first date, and you almost canceled because I didn't want to be.

A (11:42)

I didn't want to go out with a shrink who was going to shrink me. And I'm like, here we go.

B (11:48)

Turned out to be the best, best decision I ever. Your life.

A (11:53)

But you did shrink me.

B (11:55)

And then what happened when you were 4 years old?

A (11:57)

So I had one uncle murdered in a drug deal gone wrong because of my other uncle, who was a heroin addict. And then he tried to commit suicide with an overdose of heroin. Yeah, it was pretty rough. I remember the police coming to the house, and just my mother and grandmother were screaming, and it was just pure chaos. And it was.

B (12:16)

And I asked you.

A (12:17)

It was one of the scariest days of my life, definitely. And I had a lot of scary days, but that day was particularly scary.

B (12:23)

And I'm like, do you think it's related?

A (12:26)

No, that's what I said. I was not super psychologically savvy at the time I was just this hard charging, you know, trauma nurse.

B (12:37)

And there's research that suggests if you're traumatized as a child, it changes your microbiome.

A (12:48)

Changes your microbiome. It changes your brain development. It changed. Now I'm, now I understand this. I've since then done a whole bunch of, whole bunch of research and studying up on this.

B (12:59)

And so chronic stress makes you more vulnerable to immune system issues. And so if you have cancer and diabetes in your family and then you're under, so all of these bright minds, risk factors stack on top of each other, then it can actually influence the thyroid cancer you had in your 20s that recur multiple times.

A (13:26)

Yep.

B (13:27)

And so if you have immune system issues, I think you need a stool sample. I think somebody needs to do a serious evaluation of your gut microbiome.

A (13:41)

Yeah.

B (13:42)

You also need to know your vitamin D level. And foods like onions and mushrooms and garlic tend to boost immunity as well.

A (13:54)

Well, and vitamin D is really interesting because if your gut isn't healthy or if your thyroid is off, you can be taking vitamin D and not absorbing it appropriately. And if your gut is not healthy, you can be taking thyroid and not absorbing it the way you think you are. So really important to have these things checked. So that's why you know, the, the dose of vitamin D that maybe your spouse is taking or that your friend is taking is not the same dose you might need. Like for the longest time, I had to take 10,000 units of vitamin D just to get, just to be at a really healthy level. But now I take half of that because my gut is healthy. So it's not that simple. Right? You want to be getting these numbers checked. You want to be getting your gut healthy because it changes.

C (14:39)

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B (15:56)

So let's move to M neurohormones. We're going to do a lot of podcasts on hormones. And when you think of neurohormones, these are hormones that affect your brain, which is most hormones. Right. It's thyroid. It's quite a big deal in your life.

A (16:18)

I've been through thyroid health. I know low thyroid. I know high thyroid. I know all of it.

B (16:24)

And so you were 25 when they took out your thyroid?

A (16:28)

No, I was 23.

B (16:28)

You're 23?

A (16:29)

Yeah.

B (16:30)

And it just changed so many things in your life.

A (16:34)

It's really important to go to someone who really knows the right things to test, because just getting a basic thyroid panel is not it so very, very important. And if you have low thyroid, yeah, it can make you feel really, really awful. But high thyroid can make you feel really, really awful, that wired and tired feeling. So, you know, you get depressed, you get anxious, you get all these different feelings depending on, you know, what your thyroid level is. And it also affects your memory, it affects motivation. So it's very important to make sure your thyroid is optimized.

B (17:07)

And too often, I mean, I just saw this incredibly wealthy, wonderful person who started having panic attacks, and then his doctor goes, oh, it's stress and anxiety, and put him on Lexapro, but then check his thyroid.

A (17:29)

That's what happened to me. We mentioned in the beginning of the episode that I went through depression and it was like. It's like this. This one of the worst things I've ever been through in my life. It was probably worse than the cancer itself, quite frankly, because it was like I couldn't crawl out of my own skin and I just couldn't get away from it. And this was a long time ago. And I don't, you know, I still think that they're not very great a lot in general at dealing with this, but back then they really weren't. And rather than explaining to me that when they took my thyroid out and back then, the way they did the treatments was very different now than how they do it now. They. I had no thyroid in my system basically for a couple of months, and I didn't understand that that was going to really make me. Wasn't going to kill me, it was going to make me wish I was dead. And so no one explained that. So really understanding what this is going to do to you is super important. So you've got these people walking around that are not optimized, feeling like they're just depressed and sometimes want to die. And no one is explaining, oh, maybe we should check your thyroid. Maybe it's not just that you have a Prozac deficiency. Maybe you do need that ultimately. But how about we check everything else first?

B (18:44)

Well, and with your brain, Prozac was actually the wrong thing.

A (18:47)

Completely the wrong thing. Almost ruined my life.

B (18:49)

But gave you interesting stories.

A (18:52)

Some I wish I could forget, but.

B (18:53)

Yes, other hormones like progesterone. Like you often say, if you didn't take your progesterone, I would be on.

A (19:01)

The 6:00 news or divorce, probably so. And I don't think everybody's the same. And there are some women who can't take it because of their. Their genetic history or their, you know, cancer in their family. But for me, it was very, very helpful.

B (19:14)

And most people don't know. And we're going to do a whole podcast on pms, on perimenopause, menopause, puberty. But if your progesterone's low, you often can't sleep. You're irritable, just itchy in your skin, anxious.

A (19:34)

Yeah.

B (19:35)

Um, and often what happens is it goes low 10 years before women go into menopause, they end up on Ambien to sleep, Xanax to calm their irritability and anxiety and something like Lexapro.

A (19:52)

Yeah, I just noticed I was starting to feel prickly, and then all of a sudden I was, like, able to sleep better. My hair was better, like lots of things.

B (19:59)

And you were nicer to me. Thank you. I'm grateful. Estrogen as well, testosterone, so important. And so it's just something to know about. You want a better brain, you have to have better hormones. And you said a word that's very important because so many people get their hormones back and they're normal, but they're not optimal. Right, Right. So now we get to diabesity, and it's where your blood sugar's high or your weight is high or both. And if you have this one risk factor, you actually have 10 of the 11 risk factors, because being overweight, which is now 75% percent of the population being overweight decreases blood flow to the brain. I published three studies. One unhealthy people, healthy, normal, sort of psychologically people. One on NFL players and one on a massive database of 33,000 scans. And it showed as your weight went up, the. The actual size and function of the brain went down almost in a linear fashion. And that's a bad thing. It Prematurely ages the brain. The fat on your body increases inflammation. It changes your genes in a negative way. It stores toxins. You're more likely to be anxious and. And depressed. It decreases your healthy immune system. It changes your hormones. Being overweight actually turns healthy testosterone into unhealthy cancer promoting forms of estrogen. And you don't sleep as well, so the only one you don't have is head tr.

A (22:12)

So interesting. I mentioned this in our previous episode, but I have become sort of obsessed with my continuous blood glucose monitor. And it's like the best food nanny there is. And so I've never had a problem really with my weight, but I. Because I have diabetes in my family and I can just tend to just. If I eat too much fruit, my, my hemoglobin A1C, my blood sugar will just creep up. And it's just, I've always had to really watch it because it's just in my family. So I'm just very conscious of it. I watch how many carbs I eat. I just. But I put this thing on and it is the best food nanny there is. It's annoying. Not gonna lie, it's super annoying. But not only do you learn a lot.

B (22:55)

Did you say food nanny?

A (22:56)

It's like a food nanny. It's just, it's crazy, but it's like it's. You learn a lot, so it makes you move more like just. I'll find that, like, because your blood sugar goes down every time you move, so I find myself taking little 10, 15 minute walks here and there that maybe I wouldn't have done before. But also I noticed it's like this modification, it modifies your behavior. So maybe it saves me 10 or 15 different things during the week that I'm like, oh, I could have a bite of that or I could have that extra whatever, half of an apple or an extra whatever that I would have had that has more carbs in it than I needed. Naked carbs versus carbs wrapped in fiber or wrapped in fat maybe, whatever it is, but more than I needed to eat. And so. Or maybe a mint that I was gonna pick up and eat just little tiny things. But maybe 15 times a month I'll notice I'm like, oh, that's 15 times this month that I was gonna eat something that I didn't eat that I just didn't need. So it's just that little nanny, you know, going, don't do it, don't do it. And when you really add that up through the month, it's like that was a lot, actually, so.

B (23:59)

And you had been diagnosed with prediabetes.

A (24:02)

Yeah, and I was. And I was the fittest I had ever been, so you have to be. And part of that's because of the high cortisol. So it's very complicated. You have to know how all this works together. So fitness does not equal health, and that's a really important thing to know.

B (24:16)

And I think the Brain Warriors Way cookbook is the perfect antidote to obesity and diabetes. And for, for people who have type 2 diabetes. You can reverse that.

A (24:35)

Yeah.

B (24:35)

With the right plan, you can make it better. I mean, you might not get rid of it, but you can clearly decrease the need for medication. And many people can eliminate their medication if they get serious about eating A brain healthy balanced diet. And all 120 of the recipes you have in the book are sugar free, gluten free, dairy free. They're amazing. And then we come to sleep. So important. And now we have a new puppy and the puppy is deemed mine.

A (25:20)

Yes.

B (25:20)

And so I'm the one that gets up with it. So I'm making sure after five or six she's not having water because sleep is so important and I don't have the hormones that'll bounce back from mommy brain. And I love her so much.

A (25:41)

Oh, she's so cute. Yeah, I was actually, at first I was like, okay, this is going to be really sad because, you know, you just. We like, everyone in the family, sort of decided she was going to be. They're both our dogs. But she's more your puppy. Because my dog is obsessed with me and he's like, not going to tolerate it. Now I'm like, oh, I'm so glad my dog's not going to tolerate her being my dog. Because now you have to get up.

B (26:01)

In the middle of the night and I do. But I also notice the nights I don't sleep, my blood sugar is higher.

A (26:09)

Yeah.

B (26:10)

Throughout the day. And so making sleep a priority, because when you sleep, your brain cleans or washes itself and.

A (26:22)

And your cortisol is lower when you.

B (26:24)

Seven, eight hours a night, trash builds up in your brain and it becomes harder to think.

A (26:33)

Yeah. And your cortisol goes up when you don't sleep.

B (26:36)

So. So overall, these are the bright minds. And, you know, I love this so much. And so if we just go, what's the one thing to do for your mental health? It's don't believe every stupid thing you think. And what's the one thing you could do for your immunity? Snow. Your Vitamin D level. It's the one thing you could do for your hormones. Measure them right. Can't change what you don't measure. It's one thing to do for diabesity only. Love food that loves you back.

A (27:21)

Or put on a continuous glucose monitor.

B (27:23)

So simple. And you're right. Food nanny. I like that. I'm gonna steal that and sleep. It's like go to bed a half an hour early.

A (27:34)

I've got a sleep cocktail that I love too. Just because my brain doesn't shut off. It just like spins and spins and spins and so I know it wakes.

B (27:42)

Up spinning and yeah, it spills all over you.

A (27:45)

I know. So. But I take 3 to 400 milligrams of magnesium. I take a time release melatonin. I take restful sleep that I love. And then on days that I'm particularly stressed out, I'll take a little bit of GABA and sometimes nil theanine. That combo, if I take the GABA and the L theanine together, it's definitely going to knock me out. So it depends on how stressed out I am. But that combo makes sure my room is completely dark. Very cool. I wear a mask and I wear earplugs and that combo is definitely great for me sleeping.

B (28:21)

So let's just go through Bright minds again because we have a few minutes. And just what are the supplements the brain MD might actually have to help people? So magnesium for blood flow. Oh, magnesium, yeah. Works to help increase blood flow. And we have magnesium chewables. Magnesium's also in calm my brain, but we have advanced blood flow. I mean I created a formula with my team specifically to increase blood blood flow.

A (28:56)

Right.

B (28:57)

And one of the primary ingredients is ginkgo because the prettiest brains I've ever seen take ginkgo. Retirement and aging. It would be Bright Minds powder. So I use that creative Bright minds powder to go after all of the risk factors. But it's nervite plus are super brain directed, multiple vitamin plus brain and memory power boost. And one scoop in a shake or in a glass of water a day. That's all you need. For inflammation. We have brain curcumin. Curcumin have been shown to decrease inflammation and omega 3 fatty acids. We have omega 3 power. It's our bestseller always. But we also have a vegan omega 3 that's stunning. It is such a great product and comes from algae. We also have Omega 3 power squeeze which tastes like candy. It's so good. So that's for inflammation, for genetics. We actually have neuro C, which is liposomal vitamin C which is so helpful for head trauma. It's brain and body power Max, which is my NFL formula to detoxify. We have N acetylcysteine. It's actually a brand new product for me, but I use N acetylcysteine for so many things including decreased cravings for mental health. Happy Saffron. I love Happy Saffron so much. I've taken it nearly five years. Can you believe it's been out almost five years? For immunity, we have pro brain biotics Max and smart mushrooms. We haven't talked about lion's mane, but it's good for your brain but also good for your gut and immunity. For neurohormones we actually have three products. We have a new menopause product. We have a PMS relief product. So many husbands thank me for that. Would you say PMS stands for pass.

A (31:19)

My sweats and punish my spouse?

B (31:22)

And we have Brain team Max, which helps boost healthy testosterone levels. One of our participants is actually one of our own doctors. When she took it, her free Testosterone went up 85% and she said she didn't realize what she really had was postpartum depression from depleted hormones. And for diabesity we have craving control. We also have smart metabolic burn. And for sleep we have restful sleep. And perhaps one of my favorite put me to sleep. So Bright minds is really sort of the roadmap for your life if you want a healthy brain. If you want to keep your brain healthier, rescue it to prevent or treat the bright minds risk factors.

A (32:20)

So I do think it's really important that you know your individual needs when it comes to the bright minds. But I also think that there are some basics that pretty much everybody can benefit from on a daily basis. And I think it's important for people to know that, like the multivitamin, fish oil, vitamin D. Know your number and get that checked because everyone can benefit from optimizing those. And probiotics, probiotics, probiotics. You got to have a healthy gut. So I think those very basics for pretty much everyone. And you're going to get that foundation and then from there you need to know, for example, some of the things that really help some people to relax. Like 5 HTP doesn't help everybody. Like for me makes me feel like I'm walking through mud and just completely stoned. But GABA really helps me. So knowing your particular type is really important and being able to individualize this. But those basics are just such a strong foundation to get started well and.

B (33:13)

People can know their brain type. By taking our free brain health assessment brain health assessment.com you'll know which of the 16 brain types you have. So leave a comment, a question, please a review. Subscribe and share with the people you care about. Because what 10 and I have learned is you really have to get this information. But once you get it, you have to give it away. Because it is in the act of giving that you create your own support group, making it more likely you'll stay on the Bright Minds program.