The Dark Side of Glory & The Faith That Brought Me Back

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Change Your Brain Every Day

Episode: The Dark Side of Glory & The Faith That Brought Me Back
Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Dr. Daniel Amen & Tana Amen
Guest: Tim Tebow

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Episode Overview

This episode features a candid, in-depth conversation between Dr. Daniel Amen and Tim Tebow, exploring the dark side of fame and the challenges of living with brain injury. It also highlights Tebow’s faith-driven journey, his passion for helping the world’s most vulnerable through the Tim Tebow Foundation, and the ongoing pursuit of brain health and purpose after trauma. The discussion is deeply personal, rich with practical advice, medical insights, and spiritual reflection.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tim Tebow’s Mission & Calling

• Early Spiritual Experience: Tim recounts his conversion experience at age six, guided by his parents’ missionary work and his own conviction of faith ([06:41]).
• Most Vulnerable People as the ‘MVPs’: Tim discusses moving from chasing “Most Valuable Player” to focusing on “most vulnerable people”—children in crisis, the trafficked, and those with special needs ([04:36]).
  • Notable quote: “He kindly but reiterated many times to me, I have a more important MVP for you to chase. It’s not Most Valuable Player. It’s the most vulnerable people.” — Tim Tebow ([04:36])

2. The Dark Side of Fame & Trauma

• Shocking Football Injury: Tebow describes a severe concussion in 2009, which led to a hospital stay and brain bleeding, fundamentally shifting his awareness of football’s risks ([10:17]).
  • Notable quote: “I got hit and I was falling back and my head snapped against the other tackle’s knee and it whiplashed... and I was unconscious.” — Tim Tebow ([10:17])
• Chronic Migraines & Dyslexia: The ongoing effects of cumulative head trauma and challenges growing up dyslexic ([17:19], [34:35]).
• Dr. Amen’s Medical Perspective: Football and firefighting are cited as “brain-damaging professions,” with most players showing dramatic improvements when they follow brain rehabilitation programs ([08:04], [23:21]).

3. Ultimate Purpose and Stewardship

• Living with Tension: Tebow discusses the emotional tension between urgent humanitarian work and personal health, describing his desire to serve to the point of exhaustion but wrestling with the need for self-care ([59:17]).
  • Notable quote: “One of my biggest goals in life would be to show up to heaven exhausted. Because I feel like it would be a really bad day if I got to heaven and I was well rested.” — Tim Tebow ([59:22])
• Biblical Foundations:
  • Stewardship as a calling—not just financially but in all aspects, especially health: “When the owner shows back up, is everything in place and we have to do a good job in every area of our life.” — Tim Tebow ([37:35])
  • Romans 12:1–2 as a framework for holistic health and transformation (spiritual, physical, mental) ([61:13]).

4. Healing, Brain Health, and Practical Strategies

• Personalized Brain Plan: Dr. Amen shares findings from Tebow’s brain scan, revealing trauma-induced low activity centers and offering optimism for improvement with specific interventions ([30:14], [31:45]):
  • Erlin Syndrome: Possible sensitivity to certain lights causing migraines. Suggests testing and using filtered glasses ([17:03] onwards).
  • Supplement Protocol: Creatine, omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin D, and B2, among others ([41:19], [46:23]).
  • Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy: Strongly recommended (40+ sessions in a “hard chamber”) for brain rehab, referencing cases like Joe Namath ([39:38]).
  • Emphasis on Gut Health: The importance of digestive health’s connection to brain health ([21:58]).
  • Work-Life Structure: Techniques like slow breathing, “What Went Well Today” gratitude exercises, stricter sleep routines, and careful boundary-setting ([49:32]–[52:07]).
  • Processing Trauma: Encouragement to use resources like EMDR, trauma-informed care, and spiritual counseling ([75:50]).
• Stress, Sacrifice, and Burnout: Dr. Amen and Tebow discuss the challenge of compassion fatigue and the need for first responders and faith leaders to care for themselves as well as their mission ([68:19], [86:59]).
  • “There is that tension. I just love your neighbor as yourself, which means you have to love yourself.” — Dr. Daniel Amen ([73:52])

5. The Tim Tebow Foundation & Legacy

• Foundation’s Multi-Faceted Work: From survivor care, hospitals, and special needs to rescue operations, law enforcement partnerships, and global advocacy ([65:49]).
• Impact Stories: Heart-wrenching examples of being present for children who’ve experienced extreme abuse, and grappling with introducing the concept of a loving father to those who’ve only known betrayal ([68:19], [71:15]).
  • Notable quote: “How do I bring up a heavenly father when their idea of a father is their idea of their first rape?... How do I bring up love, when their idea of love was the first person to sell me or buy me?” — Tim Tebow ([68:19])
• Call to Action: Encouraging listeners to get involved in any front-line organization, not just his foundation ([67:01]).

6. New Book: “Look Again”

• Core Message: Rediscovering worth, hope, and purpose through a biblical lens and seeing other people as royalty—"made in the image of God" ([77:38]).
  • Story of encountering a child marked as “royalty on board” at a Foundation event ([77:38]).
• Societal Comparison & Suicide: The crisis of self-worth fueled by social media comparison, and the epidemic rise in youth suicide ([83:50], [84:24]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Stepping Into Purpose:
  “I spent most of my life chasing Most Valuable Player awards... God kindly reiterated... I have a more important MVP for you to chase, it’s the most vulnerable people.” – Tim Tebow ([04:36])
• On Football’s Hidden Toll:
  “Playing football is a brain damaging sport. Own it... but 80% of our players got better.” – Dr. Daniel Amen ([08:04])
• On Stewardship Beyond Money:
  “It’s everything that we have been allowed to borrow—our talents, our resources, our ability, our brain, every bit of it.” — Tim Tebow ([37:35])
• On Living for Others:
  “If we know that’s where he [God] is, that’s where I want to be.” — Tim Tebow ([60:39])
• On Trauma and Resilience:
  “[Healing] is carefully, and time. With time. ...We show up and we don’t want anything. We just want something for them...” — Tim Tebow ([71:15])
• On True Worth:
  “Your actions don’t equal your value. You are valuable before you ever do an action.” — Tim Tebow ([79:18])

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Timestamped Breakdown of Important Segments

• 00:00–01:05 – Opening: Tim’s firsthand account of encountering profound trauma in children rescued from trafficking.
• 03:36–06:19 – Tebow’s path from sports stardom to humanitarian work, and his pivotal calling.
• 10:17–13:24 – The 2009 concussion story; early football memories; linking brain trauma and lifelong migraines.
• 16:57–18:13 – Migraines, possible Irlen syndrome, and solutions.
• 21:58–23:08 – Lifelong gut issues and their impact on brain health.
• 26:56–27:23 – Sensitivity to food dyes; lessons on migraine triggers.
• 30:14–32:05 – Analysis of Tim’s brain scan and explanation of damage.
• 34:35–36:24 – Dyslexia’s effect in school, reframed as a “superpower.”
• 44:38–45:47 – Exercise habits and Dr. Amen’s advice on HIT and cardio adapted to Tebow’s travel schedule.
• 49:04–53:10 – Sleep struggles, routine challenges, and the “what went well” nightly gratitude practice.
• 56:12–60:00 – The tension between service and self-care; pursuit of purpose and the perils of burnout.
• 65:49–67:13 – Overview & mission of the Tim Tebow Foundation; how to get involved.
• 71:15–72:15 – Trauma-informed care and the foundation’s approach to healing.
• 77:38–83:50 – The message behind Tebow’s new book, “Look Again,” and how identity reframed through God’s eyes renews hope.
• 83:50–86:58 – Suicide, social media’s impact on self-worth, and the critical need for gratitude and positivity.
• 87:36–89:41 – Dr. Amen offers to be a permanent resource for Tebow’s personal and mission-related brain health.

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends inspiring testimony with practical neuroscience and spiritual counsel, portraying Tim Tebow as a man living in the tension between a driven calling and the toll of that calling on mind and body. Listeners leave with a deep appreciation for the price of leadership, the ongoing battle against trauma, and hope for healing—through science, structure, faith, and relentless stewardship of the gifts we’re given.

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For more:

• Tim Tebow Foundation: timtebowfoundation.org
• Book: “Look Again” (Available November 4th)
• Learn more about Dr. Amen’s brain health programs at Amen Clinics

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Transcript

[Tim Tebow]

One of the first little girls that ran up to me, their mom or dad was the first one to sell them. Many times their dad was the first one to rape them. And I'm standing there thinking what do I possibly have to say to encourage them because of the trauma that so many of these kids have experienced? How do you even reframe it for them to even know what actual trust, protection, love, a heavenly father, a good father, what real care is actually about.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Tim Tebow is a former NFL quarterback, Heisman Trophy winner and two time national champion with the Florida Gators.

[Tim Tebow]

New York Times best selling author and.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Founder of the Tim Tebow foundation helping children and fighting human trafficking worldwide.

[Tim Tebow]

I almost came out of the game. We're in Lexington, Kentucky playing Kentucky and we were beating them really bad and I almost came out of the game and I said go tag, we'll go run more drive, we'll score and come out. We put in one of the backups on the offensive line. I dropped back, I got hit and I was falling back and my head snapped against the other tackle's knee and it whiplashed. I was unconscious.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So why do you think God put you on the planet?

[Tim Tebow]

I would say.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

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[Tim Tebow]

Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited and grateful. Thanks for having me. Thanks for all you do well.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So we're here in part to look at your brain.

[Tim Tebow]

All right.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

To do what we can to optimize.

[Tim Tebow]

I love it. Let's optimize now.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Professional football, professional baseball. How did you choose between the two growing up?

[Tim Tebow]

Well, I loved both of them. I also loved playing basketball. And I guess kind of the first love was football. But while I was playing football, I also had this heart to go play baseball. And I almost did it every year while I was at Florida, but somehow Coach Meyer talked me out of it every year. And then when I got cut from a few teams and I had this opportunity in baseball that honestly, nobody is really that supportive of, But I just really believe in pursuing what we feel like God puts on our heart. Because I feel like one of the worst things is to look back at your life with regret. And I didn't want to regret not pursuing it. And so I had the privilege of being able to run after it for several years, and that was really fun. And then gave that up to go back to football and then got cut by that team. And so now I'm here hanging with you.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So why do you think God puts you on the planet?

[Tim Tebow]

Oh, I would say in the macro to know him, love him, and to make him known. But specifically, and still something big, but more in the micro would be. My specific calling would be to care for his MVPs because I spent most of my life chasing Most Valuable Player awards. And he kindly but reiterated many times to me, I have a more important MVP for you to chase. It's not Most Valuable Player. It's the most vulnerable people. And that's now what we do every day when we wake up is we chase the MVPs and go into the hardest places around the world to be able to bring faith, open love to the darkest places. A more important MVP for us to chase.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So tell me about that. How did you get involved with that?

[Tim Tebow]

Well, I'd say the first time that I really felt called to something, I was 15 years old and I met a boy in the jungles of the Philippines who was born with his feet on backwards. And because of it, his village viewed him as less insignificant and cursed. And they treated him like a throwaway. And I knew that day that he wasn't a throwaway to God. But I Felt like God was pricking my heart saying, yeah, but what are you going to do about it? It's not enough to feel something. What are you going to do? And I knew that day that I loved sports. I loved winning. I hated losing even more. I was competitive and driven. And it was when God started to really work in my heart and prick my heart for something more important to chase and really started to give me the thought and the feeling and the idea and working in my heart and my head. Which one are you going to care about more, the game or that boy? And all the boys and girls around the world like him.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Wow.

[Tim Tebow]

Which one's going to matter more to you? And I know I've missed the mark a lot of on that a lot in my life, but I know at the rest of my days, Jesus died for us.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah, that's right.

[Tim Tebow]

And I'm very grateful, looking back on this, and I'm very grateful for it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

At what point in your life did you seriously give your life to Christ?

[Tim Tebow]

When I was six, about to turn seven, I couldn't sleep. I had been invited to accept Christ hundreds and hundreds of times. My dad's a pastor, missionary, and my parents, like almost every night. And over again, I would say, no, no, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Until one night I knew that I wasn't good, that I was a sinner that desperately needed a savior. And I couldn't sleep. And I got up to ran to go see my mom. And I said, mom, I gotta ask Jesus into my heart. And she said, okay, let me go get your father. I said, no, mom, we don't have time. I was kind of intense then, too. And so she said, she. But she totally got me. And she got down on her knees, and I got down on my knees on a blue couch on the west side of Jacksonville, Florida. And I said, jesus. I asked Jesus to come into my heart. Do you know what's crazy? He did. I asked him to forgive me, and he did. To adopt me into his family. And he did. And on that day, my. My spiritual identity changed. Adopted into the family of God.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You were six, almost seven.

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

That's really awesome. And when you believe, when you think the world should be different, the next question is, what can you do to make it different? I remember when I was. I started looking at the brain. It was 35 years ago, and.

[Tim Tebow]

I'm.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Like, football's not good for your brain. Even though I loved football, I played in high school, I was a crazy Los Angeles Ram fan. And then when I did my psychiatric Residency in Washington, D.C. the year the Redskins won the super bowl, okay, so I was like, joe Theisman, John Riggins. I just loved it. And then I started looking at the brand and I'm like, oh, this is not a good brain healthy sport. And then Anthony Davis, the Hall of Fame running back from USC, came to see me in 2007, and he was 54. His brain looked like he was 94. And he was having problems with memory and his temper and periods of confusion. And he just said everything I said, which I love, because people get better when they do everything I say. And then he took me to the Los Angeles chapter of the NFL Players association, the retired players. And there were players there that I idolized growing up who had dementia. One player asked me the same question six times. And I'm like, somebody's got to do a study on traumatic brain injury in football. But having grown up Roman Catholic and then when I was 18, gave my life to Christ when I was stationed in Europe in the Army, I'm like, oh, that should be you that dug up. And so, partnering with the NFL Players association in Los Angeles, we did the first and largest study, and it was bad news. Playing football is a brain damaging sport. Own it. Being a firefighter, it's a brain damaging profession. Own it. But 80% of our players got better when we put them on a rehabilitation program. And that's the thing people don't know, yeah, your brain can be better, but the sooner you start working on it, the better. At what point did you realize football could be a brain damaging sport for you?

[Tim Tebow]

Well, that's a good question. I also played pretty violently too, the way that I played, even as a quarterback, I took a lot of hits and would try to deliver hits too. I grew up and still have a lot of migraines. So that was something early on that made me really nervous with it. But I just, you know, like the motto you just gotta have, like, tough, encourage and go. Like, you know, grit and bear it. And then I would say it also changed a little bit when in 2009, I almost came out of the game. We're in Lexington, Kentucky, playing Kentucky, and we were beating them really bad. And I almost came out of the game and I said, go tag, we'll go run more. Drive, we'll score and come out. And I, we put in one of the backups on the offensive line and I dropped back and I got hit and I was falling back and my head snapped against the other Tackle's knee, and it whiplashed, and I was unconscious. And apparently I don't remember any of it. When they came over to me. And I'm waking up after a few minutes, apparently I told coach, I asked coach, did I hold on to the ball? I don't remember any of. The only thing. The next thing I remember is they're saying, it's okay, roll over. And I'm like, what? Roll over where? And I was in the hospital and they were saying, it's okay, roll over into the CAT scan thing to go do it. And that was pretty traumatic because I had some brain bleeding that took place then. And the surgeon actually was watching the game, and he called in and said, hey, I was watching the game. I'm gonna have to go operate on him, because they thought I broke my neck. And he got there and he told my parents that night, even though I was out of it, he told my parents that it's a miracle that he didn't break his neck. Like God must have spared him. And so I was in the hospital that night. And then the recovery process from that, which I know is a lot different now than what we did, but that was the start of really thinking and processing what all this means.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

When did you start playing football?

[Tim Tebow]

I was six.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You were six?

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Jesus. In football?

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And did you play popcorn?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So you had a helmet on and you were banging your head against other kids?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You know, most people don't realize the brain is not anchored in the skull, it floats in water. So even when you're six, even against other six, seven year olds, whenever you bang heads inside your skull, your brain is shaking, and so you must have been really good. And that meant you played a lot. And then where did you go to high school?

[Tim Tebow]

I was in Jacksonville. Florida? Yes, sir. Played all the years there too.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Played all the years. And did. Were you always a quarterback?

[Tim Tebow]

Most of the time. But I also played linebacker as well.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So we did a study on which positions are worst for the brain. Offensive line, believe that linebacker was second. So quarterbacks and receivers and safeties, less damage, but maybe not if you were also trying to deliver blows.

[Tim Tebow]

Someone told me, I don't know how true this is, but they told me when I graduated from the University of Florida, in the years that they've been keeping all the stats, that apparently as a skill position, I was one of the most hit players of all time. So I have that going for me.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Wow. But now we're gonna. Now we're gonna look, and then we're gonna make it better.

[Tim Tebow]

Right.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

That's the whole goal.

[Tim Tebow]

Sounds good.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's the one thing people don't know. There's this big lie going around cte, that it's chronic, progressive and untreatable. But most people who have this say about CTE are neuropathologists. These are people whose patients are all dead. Well, you know, because you have to have an autopsy in order to get that diagnosis. Well, I'm tried desperately not for my patients to die, get their brain healthy so they make better choices. 2009 is actually the year Roger Goodell was in front of Congress telling Congress that he didn't know if playing football caused long term brain damage. They were studying the issue and Maxine Waters, the congresswoman from Los Angeles, smacks him and said having you act like you're studying traumatic brain injury and football is a conflict of interest. Sort of like the tobacco companies saying they're studying lung cancer. Either way, the NFL, I think the whole world knows this potentially brain damaging sport. Let's protect their brains. And I think the rules are changing. Yeah, a lot of them, because you're an analyst.

[Tim Tebow]

A lot of them have changed.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

They're changing and. But it's still really hard for you to throw a beautiful pass for the guy to catch it and someone not to hit him really hard. And his head, like you said, your head hit someone's knee. Yeah, head hit. Hits a head. It hits his shoulder, it hits the ground. Sits so many different things. You know, I made some slides. Let's put the slides up. Let's see. Highly successful career in many things, writing, speaking, winning souls. It's. Yeah. You are a highly common.

[Tim Tebow]

Also been cut a lot too, and that's okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

But multiple concussions and a bad1 in 2009 with the loss of. Do you know where the brain bleed was in your brain?

[Tim Tebow]

I don't know. And if they told me, I would have remembered.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

The wild card is you have something called the APO lipoprotein E4 gene and you don't have one. You have to. What that means is you have to be serious about brain health the rest of your life. That it's not a death sentence, but it's. We have to pay attention.

[Tim Tebow]

Oh, thanks for the encouragement.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Migraines. Have you ever heard of the Irlen syndrome?

[Tim Tebow]

No, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Helen Erlen was a psychologist, a school psychologist. And she found that certain colors of light aggravate the brain, especially in kids who have ADD and in people who have concussions and wearing colored filtered lenses. Their headaches go away.

[Tim Tebow]

Wow.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's amazing. And given your job, you're under a lot of lights a lot. And that can trigger these headaches. And they actually make contacts with the filters or glasses with the filters. Do you know Dave Asprey?

[Tim Tebow]

I don't know who he is. Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You always see him. He's got these yellow lenses on.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah, he always.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because he has Erlin syndrome.

[Tim Tebow]

And you believe it really helps?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

No, I know it really helps.

[Tim Tebow]

I like it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. No, I probably diagnosed because I've never.

[Tim Tebow]

Thousands of people never found anything that has consistently helped. I've.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So one of the things I'm a recommend is getting an Erlan screen.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Probably wearing the glasses.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay. Do you wear it all the time?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

How often do you have the headaches?

[Tim Tebow]

Hard to tell. I come and go. I'd say average one a week.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I'd wear it. Anytime you're under big lights, you're going to hear me say, actually very soon. If you want to keep your brain healthy or rescue it, we have to prevent or treat the 11 major risk factors. And bright minds with an S is the acronym I want you to remember.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

S is sleep.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And so it is.

[Tim Tebow]

I know, it's like. It's like God's steroid for us. And I just. I try hard, just never been good at it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I have this term called brain envy. You know, I always say Freud was wrong. Penis envy is not the cause of anybody's problem. The only organ where size matters is your brain. And you also want to have sleep envy, which means with your brain, love it, avoid things that hurt it. Do things that help it with sleep. Love it, avoid things that hurt it. Got to know the list and then do things that help it. And we'll figure out the key to your brain. But one of them is going to be if I can get your brain more active, it'll be able to help you calm down at night. Your brain, because of trauma, is not as active as it could be, as it should be, and so it can't turn itself off. Your frontal lobes in large part are like the break in your brain and your brake got hurt. At some point we need to fix it.

[Tim Tebow]

Is that from. You can tell from this or from this?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

From the scan?

[Tim Tebow]

From the scan, yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I always think of my patients. So I went to medical school at Oral Roberts University. I wanted to learn medicine in the context of my faith.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And first week in medical school, the dean comes into the classroom and he says, never think of your patients as their diagnosis. Always think of them in four big circles. What's the biology? So for me, that's your brain and your body. What's the psychology? How do you think? What's the social circle like? How's your job? How's your marriage? How's your money? And what's the spiritual circle? It's. Why that.

[Tim Tebow]

Do you care?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Why do you think you're on the planet? What is your deepest sense of meaning?

[Tim Tebow]

I love it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Purpose, right? And getting people well. It's all for all the time. So there a psychiatrist. You came to me and go, oh, I'm sad or I'm mad. It's not, oh, we'll take this or that. It's like, no, no, no. It's got work in all four of these circles. Let's talk about the brain. You want to keep your brain healthy or rescue it? We have to prevent or treat these 11 risk factors. And bright minds is the acronym B is for blood flow. And I'm going to show you your scan. It's a blood flow scan. Okay. And we have to get it better.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's really important because it's hard, as you know.

[Tim Tebow]

If I go, you can tell from this?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Absolutely. Yeah. Especially right here. Left, front.

[Tim Tebow]

Wow.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And I don't know if that's where you got that guy's knee.

[Tim Tebow]

No, it's back in my head.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Hit the back. So probably hit the back and then it slammed against the front.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because the brain has nowhere to go.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Like, if this gets hard, bounces.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. So we'll talk about that. You're young. Liquid stools. Tell me about that.

[Tim Tebow]

I've had gut issues my whole life. I was a miracle baby. The doctors told my parents that they need to have an abortion because why is that? They didn't even think I was a. A baby at first. I thought I was a tumor. Just massive fetal tissue. So my first nickname from my amazing, awesome siblings was Timmy the tumor. So that's what happens when you're in a missionary family. And then. But my parents, so grateful I trusted God and gave me a chance. And my mom was in and out of a coma during the pregnancy. She had amoeba, dysentery. She had. The placenta was only barely attached. And the doctor they ended up finding, an amazing doctor who helped deliver thousands and thousands of thousands of babies. Told my parents it's the greatest miracle he's ever seen. He had no idea how I survived. And so I don't know if that's part of it, but my whole life I've Also just had gut issues.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

When's the last time you had a stool test?

[Tim Tebow]

Not long ago.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And what did it show?

[Tim Tebow]

I can't remember all of it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay. But we've done some wonderful functional medicine. Doctor Will fix your gut. Because if your gut's not right, your brain's not right.

[Tim Tebow]

It's your second brain.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Gut has 100 trillion bugs in it that make neurotransmitters that help you sleep.

[Tim Tebow]

On the liver cleanses. We've done the parasite stuff. We've tried to do a lot of.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Did you have parasites?

[Tim Tebow]

No, but we've done the cleanses for. Well, we all have different ones, but, you know, get. Try to get rid of as much of that trash as we can. Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So that's really important for your brain, as you know. When's the last time you had blood work?

[Tim Tebow]

Several months ago. Probably February, maybe.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Can I get you to send it to me?

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because then, of course, there's other stuff I'll order.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

When was your dad diagnosed with Parkinson's?

[Tim Tebow]

Probably around 2014 or 15. But they said he probably had it five years prior to that.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Well, it takes a long time to develop dopamine neurons in an area of the brain called the substantia nigra. They start to die, and then symptoms get progressively worse. Has anybody checked you for environmental toxins?

[Tim Tebow]

Not that I know of.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah, it's one of the things I'll do.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay. Is.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because we're gonna do everything we can to keep your brain as healthy as possible. And, you know, there can be some genetic connection, but you also lived in the same places where you may have picked up the same.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah, we travel all over the world for ministry.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Do you play a lot of golf?

[Tim Tebow]

I try. I play some. I don't play as much as I would like.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's probably a good thing because people who actually live near golf courses have a higher incidence of Parkinson's.

[Tim Tebow]

Because by a golf course, you live by. Of course. Just don't play it enough.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Do you take saunas?

[Tim Tebow]

We have an infrared sauna.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Do you go in it?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir. Good.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

The more the better to just. We'll look at your toxin load. That's the next thing. You don't drink. You don't smell. Sir, you've not done drugs.

[Tim Tebow]

Only meth. I'm just kidding.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Allergies to shellfish. What about red dye? How do you know you're allergic to red dye?

[Tim Tebow]

Because when we were growing up and we were. We'd go to a restaurant or something as a family, like Olive Garden. And my dad would like cherry Coke, and he would allow us, when we go to Olive Garden, have cherry Coke. And every time that we went, I'd get a migraine. And then every time after a game that I would get to drink a red Gatorade or Powerade, I would get a migraine. And so just all of a sudden, by process of elimination, I was like, I can't have whatever is somewhere in any of this red stuff. I can't have it because it's just a process of elimination. I know when I'm having red things, it sets it off, and it's awful. That is so, so fast.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because I've written about this for years.

[Tim Tebow]

That Doritos doesn't matter. It's like this.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. I have before and after scans of. I had this one patient who was. Whenever you get red dye, have a terrible temper problem. And so we scanned him. He hadn't had any. Then we gave him, oh, no Red Vines. And his brain just went.

[Tim Tebow]

Really?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

See the inflammation?

[Tim Tebow]

It's that bad?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. It's not good for you. Now, not everybody is sensitive to it, but I am. You clearly are.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And many people are, so I'm really glad they're working to get it out of our food system, too. We'll check your hormones. Your weight is good. How's your blood sugar?

[Tim Tebow]

Do you know? I can't remember. I think it's always been fine.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And then sleep. We talked about hard to shut your brain off. We tested your brain today, and it showed up with some anxiety and a lot of stress. What's this stress about?

[Tim Tebow]

Well, private stress could be a lot of things. One, it's what we're called to do every day.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I'm sorry.

[Tim Tebow]

I said, one is what we're called to do every day. If I showed you some of the areas we serve, probably two hours ago, I got a video of 10 of 10 Christians that were just massacred in the street. We serve a lot of places where it's a lot of evil that we fight, so we deal with that a lot. My wife's dad died on Thursday, so that's been heavy for us. Thank you. Just, you know, trying to fight evil and get to one more boy or girl hurting person, we can. So, yeah, we deal with a lot.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You're really good at recognizing faces, and you recognize positive faces way faster than negative faces. People who grow up in trauma, Like, I have this pattern. My wife has the other pattern because she grew up with a lot of stress, and I tried to train her brain to go and she's like, I don't want to. I want to see the bad people. If you get your feelings hurt, you can sort of let it go fast. That's a really good choice.

[Tim Tebow]

Is that what it says?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah. I usually can let stuff go pretty fast.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay. But stress, not depressed. Your memory is excellent. This is long term, and this is short term. Your processing speed is unbelievably good, which is what I saw in my NFL group. Like, amazing processing speed, like, different than normal humans. But focus and planning and flexibility could be better. And I think this is the trauma pattern that we're seeing. You're a positive person and social. Some resilience is down. Not sure why. So I do a study called spect. And SPECT looks at blood flow and activity. It looks at how your brain works. It basically shows us three things. Things, good activity, too little or too much.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Too much is not the problem for you. This is looking at the outside surface. This is healthy. This is what we're going to compare your brain to. So full, even, and symmetrical. Here's the front. Here's the back. This is one side than the other. So we're looking, like, up from the bottom.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Here we're looking down from the top. And the color doesn't matter, just the shape. Full, even, symmetrical. When we look at your brain, your brain got hurt. So see the hole right here? You don't have holes in your brain. What it means right here, really low in activity, really low in blood flow. We have to fix this. And I can tell it's trauma because if you had, like, add, for example, it would be low on both sides.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

But that part of your brain got whacked really hard. Now, if I don't know it's a 2009 one from the back or anything, or the thousands of times you got hit in the head. Your temporal lobes, which are here, are low, and they're involved with things like memory, mood, stability, learning. And here's where you are today. And I have a program that if you do what I ask you to do, it could be like this. Like next year. We just did NBA superstar Julius Randall. Love him. Smoking pot, not doing things good for his brain. It was not good. A year later, dramatically better. And he had the best playoffs of his career this last NBA season. I just talked to him today.

[Tim Tebow]

Nice.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So happy for him. But this is the goal. Okay, Here we are today. It's like, oh, no, we can get it this much better.

[Tim Tebow]

Do you see anything else on the others at the bottom Two on the other one.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So this is probably the not sleeping well can impact it. What we see with Alzheimer's disease is bilateral decreased activity here. So right here, and then decreased activity here and here. And I can tell maybe 20 years before you get it, whether or not you're headed that way. What this tells me is we have to head it off.

[Tim Tebow]

Right?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And if you have two E4s, it just means every day you just have to be serious. And it really. I'm working with the White House on a national brain health revolution. And it's all centered around one question. It's the one question I want you to ask yourself every day for the rest of your life. Is what you're doing now good for your brain or bad for it? And does it honor your creator? Good for your brain or bad for it? So when someone goes, oh, here, have this, you deserve. No, I don't deserve Alzheimer's disease. It's making decisions out of love and information. Does it serve you or does it hurt you? Here's the active one and it's sort of sleepy overall. I know as we do follow up scans if you go, oh yes, I like Dr. Amen, let's do this. And we may end up doing four or five follow up scans over the next 10 years. We're going to get this more active. What if the key to overcoming your pain isn't just in your body, but in your brain? My new book, Change youe Brain, Change youe Pain, offers strategies I've used with thousands of patients to break free from physical and emotional pain and reclaim focus, energy and peace. Healing is possible and it starts with your brain. Pre order my new book now and receive special bonus gifts at Change your brain changeyourpainbook.com so what do I think? I think you are amazing.

[Tim Tebow]

Dyslexia. Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Well, I read that in the.

[Tim Tebow]

I'm dyslexic.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. Yeah. How did that show up in school for you?

[Tim Tebow]

It made certain things really, really difficult. I didn't, I don't think I got diagnosed till I was about seventh grade, I believe. And then it just made a whole lot of sense. And there are certain things that just came harder, you know, dyslexia, for so long it was counted as a disability or a less than and. But it's not. It's just a difference. You process information and you think and you know. There's a book called the Dyslexic Advantage. One of my nieces has dyslexia and she literally calls it her superpower because God just made us think a little bit different. And I really don't look at it as a negative thing. I just look at it as a difference. We process information different. And, yeah, there might be some times where I won't have good handwriting or I won't be able to spell the same, or I might get stuff, you know, a little bit different or flipped at times. But I also think there's a lot of strengths with it as well.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Giving word processors, spelling. It's not a skill a lot of people need at the moment. The world is just changing so fast. Dyslexia would be if I would have seen you as a child. It's probably having to do with this decreased activity in the receptive language part of the brain, which is your left temporal lobe, which is low. And you started playing football when you were 6. You started having migraines when you were 6?

[Tim Tebow]

Oh, yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You know, we don't know that. Even My mild traumatic brain injury, my.

[Tim Tebow]

First week playing football, I had one every single day.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You had a migraine every single day?

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You just wonder if they're connected. I am so excited to make this better. Me too. That's what I get excited about. It's like, we can make this better, and if we do, there's less stress on you, but there's also less stress on your wife, there's less stress on your baby, and you're able to have more purpose and bring more souls to the kingdom. Right. So if you think about with a better brain, you're able to do your purpose in a better way.

[Tim Tebow]

Absolutely.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And that's what you want.

[Tim Tebow]

Stewardship.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Stewardship.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I was just talking. Do you know Paula White?

[Tim Tebow]

Only a little bit, yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

She and I are buddies, and she did my show.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

She's the one leading our initiative in the White House, and we were talking yesterday about stewardship and the parable of the talents and the one who buried the talents. The master was mad.

[Tim Tebow]

Oh, yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Like, not happy about it.

[Tim Tebow]

Not at all.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And so God wants us to multiply our talents.

[Tim Tebow]

And a lot of people just think about stewardship as a financial thing, but I believe that's. It's everything that we have been allowed to borrow our whole lives. Our talents, our resources, our ability, our brain, every bit of it. And finances are a part of that. Just comes from the Greek word oikonomia, which. The picture that's given in scripture is that it's. It's somebody else's house, the owner's home that we have been put in charge of. Managing. So when the owner shows back up, is everything in place and we have to do a good job in every area of our life. When. When the owner of the house shows up, are we good house managers? Did we use everything that he has let us borrow for a moment? Because it's not even ours. We're just allowed to borrow it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So. First Corinthians 6. 19. Your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit that was given to you by God, that was bought for you at a price. Stewardship.

[Tim Tebow]

Yes.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Right. How am I treating the temple?

[Tim Tebow]

That's right.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And can we make it better?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

That's been my life. Let's make it better. So how are we going to make it better? And these are just my original notes. I want to see your labs and just make sure they're optimal. Every year you should get a whole panel. And we should not. Not ever think about what's normal. Should always think about optimal.

[Tim Tebow]

I love it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You've never really wanted to be normal.

[Tim Tebow]

Nope. God doesn't call us to be normal.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Erlin evaluation. This simple early in test, you're going to score positive on it. I already know. We. We need to get you to an Earl and center. I. I think. I know you've done some hyperbaric oxygen. We've talked about that. I think you need a hard chamber.

[Tim Tebow]

I've never been in a hard chamber.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I think you need a hard chamber. And we need to start with 40 sessions and see, and you travel all the time. So I already had my assistant check in Jacksonville, Florida for our chamber place. And she. I think she texted me some. Okay, I'll put them in your report.

[Tim Tebow]

Perfect. I love it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

But I think whenever you're home or in your city, that can do it. Like, if you're ever here, we'll put you in our hard chamber. Yeah, but we need to start with 40. And I. I think I told you the story of Joe Namath, who was really struggling with his memory. This was in Jupiter, Florida. Okay, got a spec scan. It was terrible. Did 40 sessions better. Did 40 more better. Did 40 more. 120. His brain was healthy.

[Tim Tebow]

How long do you stay in?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

At a time like hour, hour and 15 minutes.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

1.5 atmospheres. The soft chambers can go to 1 3. And if that's all you have access to, great. But it's not enough for you. I mean, we're trying to rehabilitate your brain. And your scan today is good news because you have what you have. Now we know. And now we can go after it right so many NFL players, they're like, I don't want to know. It's like, no, I don't want to know. And I think that's the dumbest thing because if you knew a train was going to hit you.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah, you get out of the way.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You get out of the way. So. Vitamin B2, 400 milligrams at least. Try that for your headaches.

[Tim Tebow]

I've had.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Good luck with it. You're taking supplements? You showed me. I'll give you some other options. Are you taking creatine?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Five grams a day?

[Tim Tebow]

Five to ten. Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Good creatine.

[Tim Tebow]

I've probably only been doing that for a year. I never did it when I played because you hear all the people before used to say it'll make you cramp or tear a muscle or pull something. So I wish I was.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Well then. Helps your memory.

[Tim Tebow]

I know.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Helps your mood. And if you're sleep deprived, it helps your energy the next day. Yeah. There's some really great studies. Tell me about your diet.

[Tim Tebow]

I've always been really strict and I've changed what I believe in throughout the years, but I've always been very strict in trying to. I haven't had like a soda since I was 15 years old. I years ago, I started on a modified keto diet. They probably did that for almost 13, 14 years now. I'm very similar to that, but still have increased a little carbs here and there. I'm still very limited sugar. Pretty high fat, pretty high protein, but good fat and pretty high protein and very low sugar. And carbs primarily.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And how many vegetables?

[Tim Tebow]

Not a ton of on purpose, though. I used to eat a lot. But sometimes the vegetables, especially broccoli and certain ones like that irritate my gut.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay, so it's sort of paleo keto.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah, a mixture of the two.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay. You know, if they manage your blood sugar, they're the best for managing your blood sugar. High blood sugar goes with Alzheimer's disease.

[Tim Tebow]

I try. Yeah. And for many, many years. If you test me, even if I had a few carbs, I would still be in a ketogenic state because just have been in it for so long. And what's your feeling of ketones and exogenous ketones, all of that?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So I have a granddaughter that has a seizure disorder. It's pretty wicked. And ketogenic diet dramatically reduced her seizures. So for a long time I've been a huge fan. I just. I worry that you don't get enough of the antioxidants from plants okay. And so either then you have to supplement or sneak them in somehow. We make something called Neur Greens. The is loaded with antioxidants that could be helpful. Well, you have plenty of cognitive stimulation and social engagement and purpose. Yeah. So tell me about your exercise.

[Tim Tebow]

Well, in perfect world, I'd work out six times a week. I don't because we're on the road with ministry and events and speaking and sing and share the gospel all the time. So I probably only get a few days a week right now, especially with the newborn. But I try to stay pretty active as much as I can.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

What do you do for cardio?

[Tim Tebow]

Very little. I like lifting more than cardio and I think it has a lot better results. But like certain things that people would think of cardio, like sled sprints or things like that, but I'm not a, like a big jogger out there or things like that.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Like Japanese walking.

[Tim Tebow]

What's Japanese walking?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Walk normal for three minutes. I did it today. I do it every day. Walk fast for three minutes. Yeah, like walk like you're late.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And then normal for three minutes. And then fast for three minutes.

[Tim Tebow]

I love that.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And do that for half an hour.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's like five. Three minute walking. You're not really sprinting, but you're moving.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah. And it's been like you're going through the airport.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's like you're going through the airport and you didn't get there early. Yes.

[Tim Tebow]

Right.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. I would do some sort of hit training. Even if it's. You do that three times. But. But I try every day. It's like let's and have walking meetings. Like I have a huddle with my team every day at noon and usually I'm like on the bike or I'm walking.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

New learning is not going to be a problem for you. You're learning all the time. Projects. Are you taking an omega 3 fatty acid?

[Tim Tebow]

Not at the moment, no, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You always should be. 93% of the population is low on omega 3s. They make up about 25% of the nerve cell membranes and it decreases inflammation, increases cognition. I would always do that. In fact, if I order labs, I'll order an omega 3 index because I just think they're so important. Genetics. You just have to be really serious about prevention. Protect your head. You're not doing anything currently that put you at risk, right?

[Tim Tebow]

No, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Toxins. You don't drink the food you eat mostly organic. Yeah. I mean, when you travel so much, it's Hard.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah, but we still try, even on the road.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. I think there's an app I like called Think Dirty. Have you ever heard of it?

[Tim Tebow]

No, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's not what you think it is. Lets you scan your personal products, and it'll tell you on a scale of 1 to 10.

[Tim Tebow]

That's cool.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

How quickly they're killing.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Things like parabens, phthalates, fragrance. They're all toxic. And given the family history of Parkinson's, you want nothing with toxins in it. You said you have a sauna at home, So I try and go in as often as you can. I think that's so helpful. You're a positive person. Fame sort of wears out the dopamine centers in your brain, which is sort of the pleasure centers. But I think you've been always so purposeful. That's probably helped balance that. Did fame ever sort of get out of control for you?

[Tim Tebow]

I think you. I would try to. To balance it. Obviously missed the mark a lot, but I think. I think that there's been a lot of times God's humbled me in it as well, and that helps as well.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Do you have Covid?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Once. Twice, I think.

[Tim Tebow]

Just once. Can't even remember because it wasn't that really that bad.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And did you get vaccinated?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Once, Twice.

[Tim Tebow]

What? Just once?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Just one. And do you know your vitamin D level?

[Tim Tebow]

I hope it's high because I do vitamin D every day.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You take vitamin D?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes, sir. Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And your hormones? Last time they checked, how were they?

[Tim Tebow]

They were good.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay, we'll check again, and we'll check your vitamin D level. There's this interesting breathing pattern at night that Navy seals use. Okay. Put themselves to sleep. Four seconds in, hold it for seven.

[Tim Tebow]

Sound great?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay. Yes.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

They take twice as long to breathe out as you breathe in and bore yourself to death. I mean, just keep doing it until you fall asleep. How do you usually put yourself to sleep?

[Tim Tebow]

With a lot of help from melatonin and other things. And just trying to wind down.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

What do you do to wind down?

[Tim Tebow]

Depends where we're at. If we're in a hotel, if I'm at the house, if I'm with Demi. But also a lot of thinking and processing. Whatever we've done, or whatever event I just finished, or whatever I'm about to do the next day. And then that'll get in my head. So I'll try to avoid that as well, because sometimes I can get thinking on something.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So you probably do really well with.

[Tim Tebow]

Routine because you're I do not live in a routine. I do not live in a world where routine is very easy. We are.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's harder.

[Tim Tebow]

Well, I do like routines, but, like, we'll leave here tonight and fly to Nashville, and I'll have events tomorrow, and then I'll fly from Nashville to Grand Rapids to Norman, Oklahoma, to Virginia to Florida. That'll be two and a half days.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

But I think we should try to build a routine around sleep whenever you go to bed. And what I really like is the breathing. With what went well today, it's like you could worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow, Right. Not allowed.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You have to make rules. And start with slowing your breathing down. And then go say a prayer and then go, what went well today? And start at the beginning of your day and go hour by hour looking for the smallest thing you liked about the day. Whether it's a smile or a handshake or a butterfly or a hummingbird or whatever, that one exercise will decrease your stress. It's so powerful. They did this great study at the University of Pennsylvania. Increase people's happiness in three weeks.

[Tim Tebow]

Wow.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I've been doing it for 15 years.

[Tim Tebow]

That's awesome.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And the night my dad died, I'm like, you can't do this tonight. And I did, and I went right to sleep. Because it's a habit, right? It's just a habit. You build what went well. And with Daphne, when she's old enough to talk, put her to bed with what went well today.

[Tim Tebow]

I love just great habits to do.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Your brain to look for what's right. And then you filter everything through Philippians 4.

[Tim Tebow]

8.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Think on whatever is true. Right. Lovely.

[Tim Tebow]

Noble.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Noble, worthy of praise. Let your mind. And it's like, well, does that fit?

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And it's like. But you have this problem. It's like, no, tomorrow, tomorrow.

[Tim Tebow]

And Paul's telling us from prison.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Paul is such an interesting character. He's such an interesting character. I wonder if he had a head injury from being blown off the horse.

[Tim Tebow]

You would think about that. I think it's the only time I've ever heard that about Paul.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I love it. And then I have this app, Brain Fit Life, that we give our patients for free. And there's special music to sleep. There's the hypnosis audio I'd love for you to try.

[Tim Tebow]

I'm going to try it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And all you do is just let it guide you.

[Tim Tebow]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And see what you think. When I was at oru, I took a whole month elective in hypnosis.

[Tim Tebow]

Wow.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

There was all this Sort of controversy in the Christian community. It's like you're opening your mind to the devil. And the devil has not shown up once for me. And, well, in many ways he has, but during a hypnotic trance.

[Tim Tebow]

The devil.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Has not shown up. And it's so powerful to just train your mind to get to a peaceful place and to sort of calm down the chatter. Does your mind bother you that much during the day?

[Tim Tebow]

What do you mean?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Like criticize you or pick on you or make you sad or no good?

[Tim Tebow]

No, I, I wouldn't say that my, like, my brain energy would be more focused on what we have to do and what we're called to do. And I think that's one of the interesting things and love to get your, your opinion on it. There's all of these things that I totally believe and I want to do, but there's also a calling where some of these have to sacrifice, right? Because passion is. You care so much for something, you're willing to suffer for it. It's a 12th century Latin word, you know, that you know from the Passion of the Christ. And there's something that always has to give. And so the balance. And I don't even like the word balance. I don't want to live a balanced life. I want to live an extreme life for things of eternity. So you're always going to have to suffer an area, sacrifice an area, give up something in an area, right? And especially, you know, what we do of just trying to do everything we can to get to one more boy or girl, one more hurting person, right? So that keeps us, it keeps me and a lot of our team up. Strategy, strategizing, praying, focus, thinking, getting to one more, serving one more. How can we push back evil? How can we decimate the evil we're fighting against every single day? And ultimately we know God's in charge, but he's also called and commanded us to run after as many as we can. And so I think that's a big balance. Not a balance, a big challenge.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

The tension. Tension is taking care of, of them and taking care of yourself and not burning out. Because you're running a race and you want to win the race. You do, but you want to finish the race for a long time. You do, right? So I don't know about balance. I do an exercise with my patients I love called the one page Miracle, okay? And on one piece of paper, write down what you want. Your relationships, your work, your money, your physical, emotional, spiritual goals. What do you want? Then you ask yourself every day, does My behavior get me what I want. It's like, does it fit? And people go, that's selfish. And it's like, no, actually read what you want. And very little of it is selfish. Like, for me, I want a kind, caring, loving, supportive, passionate relationship with my wife. I always want that a hundred percent of the time, but I don't always feel like it. Rude thoughts show up, but it's weird how that happens. I don't say that most of the.

[Tim Tebow]

Time.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because it doesn't fit. And I want to do what God put me on the earth to do for a long time. Yeah. And so I think it really. So maybe balance isn't the word, but you want to balance it between relationships, work, money, physical, emotional, spiritual hell. Because as Jesus said, the poor will always be with us. And you can impact the people that have been abused, exploited, but you want to do it for a long time.

[Tim Tebow]

You do.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And you have to take care of your brain. So it's like, well, I don't have enough time. It's like, well, then you should make it, given the family history.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah, I think you're right. I think the tough part is, though, when your average girl that's stuck in human trafficking gets raped 5.3 times per day, it's tough to think about that over the girl that's in that level of evil. And so that leads to always be here.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You want to make sure you're here long enough to make a dent.

[Tim Tebow]

But you can't say that to that girl, though.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. It's a quandary.

[Tim Tebow]

Right.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

The better you are, the longer you can do it.

[Tim Tebow]

I'm not saying you're not right. I think you're totally right. I'm just telling you a real. A real tension that I personally deal with. And that wife helps me with. Everybody that's very close. Everybody that's close with me, anybody that really knows me, knows that I deal with this tension a lot. I. And I would say if there's. The clearest way I could share, would be that one of my biggest goals in life would be to show up to heaven exhausted. Because I feel like it would be a really bad day if I got to heaven and I was well rested.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Say more about that, because that could be that stress marker that I saw. Because my guess is, I mean, I'll never speak for God, is you're very special to him, and he wants you to do this for a long time.

[Tim Tebow]

So are all of the. All of the boys and girls around the world that are suffering. I am no more special to him than they are. And we know that God is near to the brokenhearted. And so that means I should be, too. If we know that's where he is, that's where I want to be.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

That you should be brokenhearted, too.

[Tim Tebow]

No, scripture tells us that God is near to the brokenhearted. Oh, you bet that means that I should be, too.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And you are. This new. I'm working on a new program called the Amen Whole four that we're gonna launch in churches around the world to help people get healthy. Biologically, psychologically, socially, it's spiritually.

[Tim Tebow]

It's about time, not for you, but for the big C church to do that. It's awesome. Yeah, awesome. Good.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I know you know Pastor Warren. So he and I wrote the Daniel Plan together. It was programmed to get the world healthy through churches. And this is sort of like 2.0. It's based on Romans 12:1 and 2, and Romans 12:1 is getting healthy as worship. That is your true worship. Be a living sacrifice. And that's what I hear you saying, is that you're living in sacrifice as worship. Romans 12:2 is be transformed by the renewing of your mind. The part I love about that verse is the second part of the verse, which is then you can test to see if it fits God's good, perfect and pleasing will. And that's what I always have. My patients always question their thoughts and like, okay, does that thought fit God's good, perfect and pleasing well? And what I hear you saying is I have to show up to heaven exhausted because then I've done everything to fit God's good, perfect and pleasing will.

[Tim Tebow]

Now is that accurate? I don't have to. I. What I'm saying is that that would be a goal for me. That would be a goal is to get there and to truly, as Paul tells us, run the race with endurance. And that we would actually get rid of the sin and weight that so easily entangles us, and that we would run with endurance. And, you know, when we look at the word run in the New Testament, I believe it's used 20 times. It's the Greek word trejo, which I think the best definition for trejo is to advance speedily, like an athlete moving forward, full effort and a directed purpose. And I want to move forward with what God has called me to, even in a screwed up and flawed state. And I fall short all the time, but is to run with a full effort and a directed purpose to what God has called me to. And that is the hurting and the Suffering, because we know that's the heart of our God. And so we were just reading this the other day. I have it in my notebook. Isaiah 61:1 3. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the afflicted. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and freedom to the prisoners, to proclaim the favorable year of the Lord in the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn, to grant those who mourn in Zion, and giving them garland instead of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, the mantle of praise instead of the spirit of fainting, so they will be called oaks of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he may be glorified. Just know that that's God's heart, is for the hurting and the suffering. When we look at the life of Jesus, 60% of his publicly recorded miracles were for those who were afflicted, which in our day and age would probably mean some form of special need. And 70% of his publicly recorded miracles were for who we would call the mvp, the most vulnerable people. And we also know that Matthew 25 Jesus tells us, whatever you've done unto the least of these, you have done unto me. It's one of my favorite parts of scripture because Jesus uses himself as the example. It's not something or someone else. Whatever you've done unto the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you have done unto me. And if it's personal to Jesus, it should be personal to us. And so that would be my heart in a very fallen and coming up short all the time. But if you said what's the goal? That's the goal that I would be near to what's near to God's heart. And that's the hurting and the suffering and those mourning. And who are those people in our society right now? Well, you look, we have 50 plus million people that are being trafficked. We will have 400 million people around the world this year that will be exploited, abused or sexually abused. You have over 700 million people that are malnourished. You have the third leading cause of death of young adults to be suicide. You have so many people that are starving for hope.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Tell me about the foundation.

[Tim Tebow]

Well, our heart is to go to the toughest places around the world and care for the most vulnerable. So those that are being exploited, trafficked, abandoned, abused, sacrificed, that's what we believe God has called us to. And it's what we wake up every day doing so. Whether that's in medical care with our hospitals and our partners there, it's in survivor care with our team and partners there, whether that's in those with special needs and disabilities and our partners all around the world and that whether it's orphan care, profound medical needs, whether it's the fight in D.C. and lobbying and changing the rules around the country and around the world, whether it's the working with law enforcement and rescue operations around the world with Europol or Interpol or HSI or all the amazing organizations we get to serve and work with, that's the heart of what we wake up for every day.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And how can people learn about the foundation or support it?

[Tim Tebow]

They can go to just timtivofoundation.org and check it out. But I wouldn't encourage people at Nestle necessarily have to come be involved with us. I would just encourage them to be involved with someone that's fighting on the front lines.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So one question would be one of the things we're doing with our new program is a pastor recovery portion. Because what most people don't realize is pastors are first responders, that if a family is in crisis, they often don't call psychiatrist, they call their pastor. If they have a child that's a drug addict or a child been sexually molested, they call the pastor. And pastors end up with compassion fatigue. And one of the questions for you is seeing pictures like that or seeing stories, because I've heard you on other podcasts. It is just blows me away.

[Tim Tebow]

How.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Beautifully and horribly you describe it is how do you manage your own mind and the process not to be overwhelmed by the evil?

[Tim Tebow]

That's a good question. I think God gives a lot of grace and I just know that his grace is new every day. And the joy of the Lord is our strength. And we get to have this hope that is an anchor for our soul, that is firm and secure, that we hold on to that. But I would say one of the things that is so encouraging is that I know that as much as we love every one of these boys and girls and people we get to serve, God loves them so much more than we ever could. And when you get to see darkness and light meet and you get to see the hope of the gospel, the hope of people showing up that really care, it changes everything. It's so contagious. Dr. Amen. That you want to be around it and you want to be in it and you want to be with it over and over again. I was years ago I landed in a country where we had been able to bring some kids out of a tough area. And this was one of my first experiences with this. And it's country faith isn't allowed. It's very tough to do a lot of stuff. And one of the first little girls that ran up to me, she didn't make enough money one day for her mom, and her mom are in a place of desperation. Took her and boiled out her eye. And so I meet her and she runs up and grabs me and then the next girl and the next girl and all these kids and I'm so one story after the other. And everyone was in this moment was this similar stories. Their mom or dad was the first one to sell them. Many times their dad was the first one to rape them. And I'm standing there thinking, what do I possibly have to say to encourage them when how do I even reframe this? What love looks like, what a heavenly father looks like. How do I bring up a heavenly father when their idea of a father is their idea of their first rape? When I bring up love, when their idea of love was the first person to sell me or buy me, how do I even start to frame that? Been something I've been processing and praying about for a long time. When, because of the trauma that so many of these kids have experienced, how do you even reframe it for them to even know what actual trust, protection, love, a heavenly father, a good father, what real care is actually about?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And how do you answer that?

[Tim Tebow]

Carefully. And time with time of showing, trying to show up again and again and again with our teams and partners that we just show up, we show up and we don't want anything. We just want something for them that is that they would know how loved they are and how truly cared for they are. And you, our experience and our team and the psychologists and our counselors, they should talk to you about it. They deal with trauma, informed care, and I don't. I let them do their jobs and I just try to do mine because that is not mine and I'm not skilled for it. But we show up constantly. And everyone's healing journey is very, very different. And it's on a different schedule and it's on a different pathway. And we want people to know that we will walk with him as long as it takes. Charlie's family. And we're not going away.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So what did you hear me tell you about your scam?

[Tim Tebow]

That we have to be proactive, that we have some things that we have to get Better. And we need to. And I am with you, and I'm all in, and I want to do it. And the reason I bring this up is because I just. I know I want to be proactive with the areas I might fall short, because I want you to know what a burden and a blessing that God has put on my heart for what he's called me to. That's why I brought that up. I want to do all those things. But if you say, sometimes we're going to bed and I'm listening to music, no, it's because we get a call and there's kids in need or there's someone on our Survivor we have to take in, or there's a, you know, a survivor that just got hurt, or there's a girl that needs an emergency surgery.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And, you know, you know, even the trauma surgeons, they. We don't let them work seven days a week because then they won't do good work. Right. When I was an intern, literally, they could work us every day, all day. And then they stopped that. Like, no, you can't work more than 80 hours a week. Why? Because we hurt people.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And there's no doubt that I just love your neighbor as yourself, which means you have to love yourself.

[Tim Tebow]

Right.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

There is that tension. And when I. I'm just so hopeful for you. I love the work you're doing. I'm such a huge fan.

[Tim Tebow]

Thank you.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I just want to get you the best brain possible so you can do the best work for as long as.

[Tim Tebow]

Thank you as possible.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

How does this impact your marriage?

[Tim Tebow]

I'm so grateful because my wife is so called to this in every area. She had a sister with severe special needs that many people also viewed her as less than. And she passed away a few years ago. She was actually our matchmaker. She was born with Cerebella Genesis, born without a small brain, and she was never able to walk or talk a day in her life. But amazing. An amazing young girl I'm so fortunate I got the privilege to meet. And then another big area of why my wife's also so passionate about the fight against traffic, trafficking, exploitation. She got carjacked at gunpoint by five armed men, and God protected her, and she was able to escape, but it was even the fear of what it could have been and what so many of these kids and women go through. And so I'm so fortunate that she's at our office with our team right now going through quarterlies and going through trauma, informed care with the team and all of it. So, so she's holding down the fort and she's awesome. But there's. I would be lying if I said that some of the evil that we have to face, that it doesn't affect her in some areas too, though.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. I mean, it has to. Do you know emdr?

[Tim Tebow]

Yes. It really helped my wife a lot when she has gone through some of the. When she went through the carjack.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

That's what I was thinking. Yeah. I'm a huge fan of it. That I did a study with police officers who were involved in shootings and they couldn't go back to work because of the trauma. And they all went back to work and they're very busy brains.

[Tim Tebow]

I have never done it, but also a lot of our incredible hero survivors, certain of them, have done it as well. Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I think one of the initiatives I'm working on with this national brain health revolution is creating national trauma force of people who are trained in communities. So if there's a hurricane or there's a fire or there's a flood after the LA fires, we have a foundation. It's called the Change your Brain Foundation.

[Tim Tebow]

I think it was on the computers, right?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah. Sell it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

We gave away 100 evaluations for firefighters.

[Tim Tebow]

Awesome.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because, like football, they have a lot of trouble, have troubled brains.

[Tim Tebow]

Two of my best friends are firefighters, and they have a lot of trauma.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Right. I mean, their average day is someone's worst day of their life.

[Tim Tebow]

Right. And.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

But then if you add the toxic exposure and the head trauma, which is.

[Tim Tebow]

Very common, and the lack of sleep.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

For them, the shift work, which is really bad for your brain. So we're working to get their brains better as well.

[Tim Tebow]

Awesome.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So maybe our foundation should talk.

[Tim Tebow]

Let's do it. Thank you for what you're doing.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. What a joy.

[Tim Tebow]

Thank you.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Any questions for me?

[Tim Tebow]

Oh, I'm sure I have a million of them. I just love learning and I'm grateful for you having me and helping me appreciate it so much.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Tell me about your new book.

[Tim Tebow]

It's called look again, recognize your worth, renew your hope, and run with confidence. A lot of it has really been impacted and inspired by a lot of the work that we have been blessed to do. But a big piece of it was about four years ago. I was at one of our Night to Shines. It's a worldwide celebration for individuals with special needs. And there's a red carpet and there's all of these fancy cars that a lot of the kings and queens are riding on in the backseat while everybody's cheering for them and this young girl is riding in a red Corvette in a red dress with blonde hair, and she's driving by real slowly, and the crowd's cheering for her, going crazy. And the Corvette pulls by. And I didn't even know that our own team with all the churches were working on bumper stickers and had bumper stickers on the back of all the cars. But the car drives by, and on the back of the car it said royalty on board. And I thought, man, that's it. That's what she is. And all of these boys and girls, it's royalty on board. And so it started me down a pathway of really looking into what does it mean to be made in the image of God? When he said, let us make mankind in our image, in the image of God, he created them. Male and female, he created them. What does that really mean? In a lot of my life, I've heard it in really one of three ways, or all three of them. Rational, relational, functional rational. That God has given us a mind and a brain, as you know, to be able to have logical thought. It's made us relational. So we can have a relationship with God and we could have relationship with other people or functionality that we are called to rule and reign and subdue the Earth. Right? And I think all three of those are part of what it means to be made in the image of God. But I also was very convicted because 16% of the world's population has some form of special need. So what about those with special needs that don't have the ability to do those at the same extent? Are they made less in God's image? And my belief is absolutely not. But we started to study it and look at what does it really mean. And when you look at the term image of God and image of blank, you would see the ancient near east, like in the 1600 BC an Assyrian king would be made in the image of Bel, a God they believed in. In the 500 BC, you would see an Egyptian pharaoh that would be made in the image of Ra, a God that they believed in. And so this was a term that was used for kings and monarchs, and they would even put it as a statue in the ancient near east, and it would be a representation for their God. And so when you look at it, it's a term that was used for kings and monarchs. It's a term that was used for royalty. So if you're in the ancient near east and you're reading the God of the Bible in Genesis, and he's saying that we created mankind in our image, in the image of God, we created them. Do I think it's relational, rational, functional, as part of it? Yes. But it's so much more. In my opinion. It's actually a royal worth statement. It's a statement that the God of this universe is making about humanity. I love you so much that I am making this royal worth claim on your life, that you were made in my image. That's the heart of this book. That we would actually stop, that we would look again at how and who God has made us to be the worth that we have. Because when we really realize that, that is going to renew our hope. And when our hope is renewed, we will be able to run with a confidence. And when you look at what is happening around the world and you look at the hopelessness and the sadness and the depression and the suicide, we are missing a big piece. And that piece is meaning, that piece is purpose. And. And I really believe that it starts by knowing how valuable and special every single person is. When I realize that about my life, then when I see you, doctor, amen, do you know what I see? Someone that God made in his image. And guess what? When I see you as royalty, if I truly see you that way, then I'll treat. When I see you that way, then I'll actually treat you that way. I won't treat you just as valuable when you do something that's valuable for me. You see, your actions don't equal your value. You are valuable before you ever do an action. You aren't more or less valuable to God because when we go to the New Testament, when Jesus died on the cross, that accounted for you and it counted for me. And when we accept the free gift that he offers us, we're adopted into his family. So then what are we? Royalty, Sons and daughters of the King. And so my heart with look again, is that people would truly look at Gehenna and they would recognize their worth and it would give them a hope. And so that they could run the race that is set before them. And also that when they would see the difference of who they were but who they are now, that they recognize his worth, they would also see that in every person they ever see. So when they drive by someone that's homeless on the side of the street, they don't look at them and see, I wonder what he or she did to get there. They would see someone, that man, that person is infinitely valuable. You see what we do. It's like if I was to drop a penny and I said, doctor, Amen. You got to help me. I dropped a penny. You would look at me and be like, dang, you really did injure your brain. You're an idiot. But if my wife dropped her diamond ring and I said, doctor, amen, we got to stop. We got to find her diamond ring, you would probably be like, hey, guys, we need to move this table and we got to find this ring. Why? Because you know an eight league that it is valuable. You probably don't know her ring, but you know it's valuable to her. And you also know that a diamond ring is valuable. Except what we do in our society far too often is we treat people like pennies. Except everyone, every human has ever been on planet Earth is more valuable than any diamond ring that has ever been created in the history of ever. That's the heart of look again.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I love that so much. And suicide in young people has gone up 746% since 2000, unlike anything we've ever seen. We're actually doing a big suicide study now. Our foundation is. And in large part it's because people do not see themselves as valuable or their life as meaningful. And I think there's a direct correlation with social media and believing other people have better lives than you do.

[Tim Tebow]

Well, it's, in my opinion, with that. I love that. I totally echo that. But I think one of the areas that social media can be a big issue is people are comparing their reality to somebody else's fake life. They're not putting their real life on social media. They're putting their fake best day, it's not even real. They took it 15 times and then they put a filter on top of it. It's not real. But what we do is we compare our life of what we know is real to somebody else's fake life. And it gives us this feeling of sadness and hopelessness. And then it leads us into a place of comparison. And I saw one study that said 12% of our daily thoughts are spent in some form of comparison. And I don't believe that at the same time we can live in a state of comparison and grateful. I don't believe they can coexist. I think you can go back and forth, but if I'm. If I'm comparing my life to other people, what we're saying or implying to God is God. I wish I had that. I should be there. I want to be there. I wish I had her place, his looks, that job, that corner office. And I don't believe that you can be in a state, a Mind of comparison and a posture of gratitude at the same time.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah. No, I mean, your conscious mind can only do one thing at a time. And so if you're focused on comparison, you're going to feel small. And if you're focused on gratitude, your heart's going to be open. We also did this fascinating study on positivity, negativity bias. And so yours was positive. That protects you people who focus on what's wrong. Of the 300 questions we ask, you know all the different psychiatric symptoms. If you have high negativity, you have two thirds of them. Shocking that. Learning to look for what's right is also really helpful. But that's a risk for you as you see the evil and go to war against it. You have to likewise protect your mind and your brain in order to. To fight that. Right.

[Tim Tebow]

There's no doubt.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because I. I would worry about compassion fatigue even among people who are. Who have the armor of Jesus. You still was thinking about Elijah and the broom tree, that he got depressed and said, all right, I'm done. Yeah, Like, I'm done. He just did this, like, great miracle with God, and then he's like, no, I'm done. Well, what a joy. I'm blown away.

[Tim Tebow]

Thank you.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And I would love for you to think about me as someone on your team.

[Tim Tebow]

Thank you so much.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And if I can help your brain.

[Tim Tebow]

Be better, I would love it very much.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So then you will be better for what you're doing.

[Tim Tebow]

Thank you. And try to be better for more people that need us. So thank you. And thank you for what you're doing for Daphne. I'm so grateful for Daphne Rain. There's no doubt.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Right. Because the most important thing you can do for her, besides love her mother. Yes.

[Tim Tebow]

Is. And I do love her mom very, very much.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Is beautiful present for her for a long time. And, you know, we really didn't talk much about if she has one of the four genes and she does. It's. How do I teach her how to love and care for her brain? So that. Because I believe Alzheimer's prevention starts as soon as you know about it. Wow. Like, and. And if you know early, it. It doesn't mean you don't have to live scared.

[Tim Tebow]

You just live. It's.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

It's just. It just becomes a thing.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

That. Oh, I'm gonna love my brain. So I had Dennis Rodman in here, and his brain was not great. And I. We talked about things to avoid, and he's like, well, how can you have any fun? And we have a high school course that's in all 50 states. And we teach teenagers how to love and care for their brains. And week four is what to avoid to have a healthy brain. And invariably it's a boy. It's never a girl. Boy raises his hand and goes, how can you have any fun? Just like Dennis did. And so we play a game with them. Who has more fun, the kid with the good brain or the kid with the bad brain? And we go through. And it's always the kid with the good brain.

[Tim Tebow]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

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[Tim Tebow]

November 4th.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

November 4th. Look again. Available anywhere great books are sold. Leave us a comment, question or review. Thank you so much for listening. Sa.