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Peter Kafka (0:00)
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Max Chafkin (0:06)
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Peter Kafka (0:09)
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Max Chafkin (0:12)
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Peter Kafka (0:14)
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Max Chafkin (0:19)
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Peter Kafka (0:24)
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Max Chafkin (1:15)
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Peter Kafka (1:47)
From the Vox Media Podcast network. This is Channels with Peter Kafka. That is me. I'm also chief correspondent at Business Insider. And today we are focusing on Elon Musk, which feels a little weird to say since we have already spent an enormous amount of time focused on the world's richest man. You could argue we've spent more than enough time. But now Musk is approaching a truly meaningful moment for him and maybe for the rest of us via the IPO of his SpaceX conglomerate. It could be the biggest IPO in history. So yes, it is time to talk about Elon again. Specifically, what is SpaceX in 2026? Is it a rocket company or an Internet company? Or an AI company? Or all of the above? What does Musk want to do with it and why is he taking it public? And what does Musk in 2026 mean for everyone else? Remember just a year ago, Elon Musk was co president of the United States. He was selling Teslas on the White House lawn. And yes, he he and Trump broke up, but they seem pretty chummy again these days. Just recently, for instance, he was reportedly sitting on a call between Trump and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi over the future of the war in Iran. That seems like someone we should pay attention to. Here to focus our attention is an actual Elon expert. That's Bloomberg's Max Chavkin, who has spent years reporting on Musk and the ecosystem around him. He's smart, he's perceptive. You are going to like hearing from him. So here's me talking to Max Chavkin. I'm joined by Max Chavkin, who is an excellent Bloomberg businessweek columnist focused on the intersection of power, money, and the tech industry. He wrote an excellent biography of Peter Thiel called the Contrarian. He podcasted exclusively about Elon Musk for a year, and he has now moved on to a new podcast, which is called Everybody's Business. Everybody's Business. So go check that out as soon as you finish listening to our conversation. Welcome, Max.
