filming our family | kay + tay dudley

Summary

CHEERS! with Avery Woods

Episode: filming our family | kay + tay dudley

Date: September 22, 2025
Host: Avery Woods
Guests: Kay (K) and Taylor (T) Dudley

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and candid conversation, Avery Woods sits down with popular family content creators Kay and Tay Dudley (aka K&T) to discuss the joys and realities of sharing their family life online. Topics range from their unlikely beginnings in the world of social media, the evolution of their content, navigating parenthood (including blended family dynamics), Kay’s health journey, setting and respecting boundaries with their children’s privacy, and the balance between documenting real life and maintaining authenticity. The episode is packed with relatable stories, laughter, vulnerability, and practical insights for parents and creators alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Getting Comfortable in Front of the Camera & Life Updates

• K’s Third Pregnancy: Kay shares her late-pregnancy symptoms (“the waddle is kicking in”) and reflects on differences between her pregnancies, noting her current baby's breech position (03:02).
• Origins of “K and Tay”: The name stems from their nicknames for one another and personal connection (01:57).

2. The Unexpected Shift to Social Media Careers

• Starting Out: Neither had social media experience; they began by doing trends “as a hobby” and made a New Year’s resolution to post daily videos—never expecting a career (04:07).
• On Monetization & Public Perception:
  • “I don’t even think I knew how you monetized.” – K (04:34)
  • “There is a big misconception...unless you’re doing it, you really don’t know how it works.” – K (04:51)
• Life Change and Opportunities: Kay describes how social media “changed our life, night and day”—for example, allowing her to meet the Backstreet Boys thanks to Tay’s secretive planning (05:19).

3. Authenticity and Content Creation Style

• Choosing Realness Over Performance:
  • “We just film our life. That’s all we have time to do.” – T (07:39)
  • The most interesting moment of each day is posted, keeping things genuine and current.

4. Relationship Story & Blended Family Dynamics

• How They Met: Met in a bar through mutual friends in a small town; K was 19, T had just returned from deployment in the Air Force (08:08).
• Kay’s Journey as a Single Mom: Balancing multiple jobs and raising her daughter, Kinsley, before meeting Taylor (09:10).
• Step-Parenting:
  • “Being a stepparent is a role people just don't understand unless you're in it.” – Avery (10:19)
  • Taylor’s unhesitant acceptance of Kay’s daughter is highlighted as unusual for his age (12:03).
  • Both couples share emotional first moments blending families, bonding with their stepkids.

5. Navigating Privacy for Their Kids Online

• Balancing Sharing and Protecting:
  • Avery and Kay both discuss not showing older children online, emphasizing child safety and mental health (18:09; 18:49).
  • “There’s no winning in this industry … you just have to do what you feel comfortable doing as a parent.” – K (24:15)
  • Kinsley is entirely uninterested in social media and “deliberately kept off camera” per her wishes and co-parenting agreements (20:23).
  • Ellie (the youngest) appears “when it’s natural”—never a requirement for content.
• Community Critique & Double Standards:
  • “You don't love them as much” – classic accusation when children are absent from online content (23:35).
  • Both Kay and Avery voice that criticism comes whether sharing or not sharing children.

6. Dealing with Online Feedback and Protecting Mental Health

• Comment Practices:
  • Neither reads comments much anymore, especially outside their own communities, due to mental health impacts (28:28).
  • Immediate blocking of negativity has created a mostly positive space (“I have no tolerance for it. I will block them.” – K, 29:01).
• On Block Culture: Both share no-nonsense approaches to trolls and blocking negativity (29:43, 29:54).

7. Family Life, Parenting, and Content Boundaries

• Future Approach with Kids On Camera: They plan to follow the kids’ leads—if they don’t want to be in videos, they won’t be (31:23).
• Content as a “Daily Documentary”: Tay was inspired by his VHS-dad upbringing: “It’s like a documentary. It’s like home videos.” (33:14)
• Public Misconceptions: People assume children left off-camera are unsupported, when in reality, content captures only a tiny slice of real life (34:45).

8. Health & Personal Insights

• Kay’s Lupus Diagnosis: Diagnosed right before pregnancy, Kay describes symptoms and how her current pregnancy has actually improved her remission (38:59).
  • “I feel 10 times better right now than I do when I’m not pregnant.” – K (39:42)
• Postpartum Challenges: Under-discussed realities of pain and postpartum contractions (57:34), tongue and lip ties, and social media as a surprising source of helpful advice.

9. Marriage, Teamwork, and Quality Time

• Romanticizing Everyday Moments: They cherish small moments as dates, given busy parent-life (65:56).
• Work-Life Boundaries: They maintain a strict weekday work schedule and prioritise family time outside those hours (67:29).
• Independence: Each has solo routines (Taylor edits/plays games; Kay spends time with Kinsley/friends), keeping a healthy balance (67:07).
• Sleep Training: Praise for “Taking Cara Babies,” a resource that “changed our life” (68:41).

10. Lighthearted & Personal Rapid Fire

• Who’s Funnier?: K is unanimously voted funnier—T’s humor is more private (71:12).
• Parenting Style: K admits to being stricter, more anxious—the “helicopter” mom—while T tries to co-parent supportively but not authoritatively (72:09).
• Romantic Gestures: T loves gift-giving and is “more romantic” (73:42).
• Night Out vs. Night In: T craves outings (FOMO); K prefers being cozy at home.
• Who cries more at milestones?: K—a self-described crier for all emotions (74:47).
• Favorite Fast Foods: Kay orders a fully loaded bean burrito at Taco Bell (with extra onions, cheese & red sauce—but “not extra beans!”); Taylor prefers grilled cheese steak burritos (75:46-76:09).
• On Reality TV: They’ve been approached but worry about lack of control over portrayal and edit (“If I had rights to determine how I was portrayed, then I’d probably be for it. But it just doesn’t sound appealing.” – K, 77:48).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We just film our life. That’s all we have time to do.” – Taylor, on authenticity (07:39)
• “There’s no winning in this industry … you just have to do what you feel comfortable doing as a parent.” – Kay (24:15)
• “It’s like a documentary. It’s like home videos.” – Taylor (33:14)
• “You only see what the camera is pointing at and that’s it … there’s so much going on beyond the lens.” – Kay (32:01)
• “We romanticize any time together we get.” – Kay (66:09)
• On negative online comments: “If you liked a mean comment, I probably blocked you, too.” – Kay (30:08)
• “I would love to be able to just see myself healthy and not feel like crap all the time.” – Kay, on lupus (70:45)
• “I’m not a good helper … Kay’s like, ‘I need you to motivate me.’” – Taylor, on home workouts (50:25)
• On delivery and postpartum: “The contractions after you have the baby. Nobody ever told me … and I was like, this is bad.” – Kay (57:34)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pregnancy Experiences & Dynamics: 02:14–03:45, 38:59–41:24
• Social Media Journey & Authenticity: 04:07–08:06
• Blended Family Story/Parenting: 08:08–16:25
• Children’s Privacy Online: 18:09–24:50, 31:23–34:45
• Handling Online Negativity: 28:28–30:33
• Family Channel Philosophy/Daily Life: 33:14–35:15
• Health/Lupus Discussion: 38:59–41:24, 70:28–70:45
• Self-Care & Skin Routine: 60:49–62:16
• Preparation for Baby & Nesting: 62:16–64:15
• Rapid Fire Fun: 71:12–77:48

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Tone and Atmosphere

• Conversation is warm, open, and conversational—plenty of humor, mutual support, and shared vulnerability.
• Kay and Tay offer practical, honest takes on real family life that balances career, health struggles, and privacy within a world that expects—and judges—so much.
• Avery’s tone is supportive and empathetic, especially around parenting, blended families, and social media pressures.

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Closing

Avery wraps by affirming K & T’s authenticity and positivity, encouraging listeners to follow them (@kayandtay) for more relatable, documentary-style family content, especially on Instagram.

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For listeners:
Expect a heartfelt, relatable deep dive into parenting online, mental health, partnership, and the real-world impacts of sharing life on social media—punctuated by laughs, candid admissions, and plenty of real talk.

Transcript

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[Avery Woods]

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[Kay (K)]

Good.

[Avery Woods]

Welcome. Do you mind if I call you K and Tay or do you want Kaylee and Taylor?

[Kay (K)]

No, K and Taste.

[Taylor (T)]

No, we call each other K and Tay.

[Kay (K)]

So that's why we like came up with the handle because I've always called him Tay and he always calls me.

[Avery Woods]

K. So it's really sweet. I really love it. It's so nice to meet you guys. I am obsessed with you pregnant. I'm obsessed with your baby. She's so darling. How are you feeling?

[Kay (K)]

I am. Up until like 2 days ago I was feeling great and then the pregnant hit me like two days ago. Yeah, I feel heavy. I feel very like, like, you know, the pressure, it's just, it's all like at once hitting Me?

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Right in the crotch. Sorry to be TMI for all the men, but, like, all of a sudden you, like, feel that really heavy pressure.

[Kay (K)]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

And that's when, like, the waddle really kicks in.

[Kay (K)]

It goes from being, like, cute. It's like an accessory, and you just, like, have fun with it to now I'm like, get this out of me. I'm so done already.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

I have like two months left, I think. I don't know.

[Taylor (T)]

What does it. You say, like, knocking on the front door?

[Kay (K)]

No, she. She's always knocking on the front door and I'm. And she needs to come out. Not yet. I mean, that would be too early, but yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. This is your third pregnancy. So what's different from this one versus your last two?

[Kay (K)]

Well, my first one, I was only 19, so I feel like a lot of. It's a little bit of a blur. It's so long ago. But that one, I felt like my body was just. I was younger and like, it was easier back then. My last pregnancy was. I wouldn't say it was hard. I had a pretty good, good pregnancy. I just felt very large. And this one, the only difference really has been her positioning. Like, she doesn't want to flip to where she needs to be. Like, she wants to sit head up. And that's kind of freaking me out. But the pregnancy itself has felt very similar.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I. I think your guys's story is so cool. And you're. You have so much success on social media. It's actually insane. And I know the work that goes into that because I had a career before in nursing and then drastically my life changed because of social media, which I think is such a beautiful thing. And it's such a cool business to be in. And as much people as people don't like to say it's a business, it really is a business. And you guys have such a cool story. So for those that don't know you guys, how would you describe yourself in your channel?

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, I think we have a cool, like, origin story. Like, neither of us had any. Any knowledge or background in social media. You know, we started kind of like everyone, you know, those, like, fun trends and things. You're like, oh, everyone's doing trends. We'll. We'll do some trends.

[Kay (K)]

Like a hobby. It was like, do together. Yeah. Like, we didn't take it seriously.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

And we, like, made this New year's resolution. We were like, let's do one video every day. And like, we didn't have an expectation of, like, fame or anything. Or, like, money. It was just, like, fun. It was something we could do. I could edit, she could. You know, we could make the trends, whatever.

[Kay (K)]

I don't even think I knew that, like, how you monetized.

[Taylor (T)]

No, we didn't either.

[Avery Woods]

I didn't. I didn't know that you could make money on social media. And I remember being just as a consumer of social media, being like, what is this person's job? But they make so much money not knowing it was because of social media.

[Kay (K)]

Like, we get that question all the time. Like, what do you guys do for a living? How come you're always traveling? Like. Like, this is what we do. Like, we're doing it. Like, that's what you're watching. And I think it's. It's. There is a big misconception on, like, how it works. Unless you're doing it, you really don't know how it works. And we didn't for sure. But, I mean, I'm so thankful. I feel like it's changed our life, like, night and day. It's made so many things possible that I never thought we would ever be able to do or experience. I mean, I got to meet the Backstreet Boys.

[Avery Woods]

I saw that your outfit was so iconic, by the way the glasses sent me. Thank you. So cute.

[Kay (K)]

It was so good. Like, that was my era. Like, Backstreet Boys were like, the. The dream, like, to meet them.

[Taylor (T)]

Fun, like, surprise. I, like, kept that secret. She had no idea she was going to meet them.

[Avery Woods]

How did you keep that?

[Taylor (T)]

It was hard. It was. Well, I was telling people that's the only way I could.

[Kay (K)]

Like, yeah, like, casual, just very, like, I'm like, how did you get her number?

[Taylor (T)]

You know, this happens. I don't know.

[Avery Woods]

Social media.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, social media, yeah.

[Avery Woods]

It's so cool because you guys, for those that don't follow K and T, they have such a sweet family channel. And I love that you guys focus on positivity in your marriage, your relationship, parenting. And you share so many cool things. Like, first with your daughter, which I love seeing. And, like, as my kids are getting older and I know I'm done having babies, I love watching that kind of stuff. And it's just really sweet. And also it's so interesting because I feel like on social media, you can kind of gauge when it's a little leaned into, like, almost staged and fake. I don't get that from you guys. It's very genuine. And now meeting you, I can feel how genuine you are.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

Is that what was your plan? When you were like, okay, this could really take off. Did you know the ali you wanted to take it or do you just kind of go with the swing of things?

[Kay (K)]

Honestly, I feel like we did not know what the heck we were doing until our pregnancy with Ellie. That's kind of when we really leaned into, like, let's just film our day. Like, like, let's film the most interesting part of our day. We really film all day, like, just random stuff. But we post the most interesting thing that happens in that day. And I would say, like, we're pretty good about posting, like, real time. Real time, like, as it's happening. Like, I know a lot of creators will. Will batch film things, and we used to do that too, but we'll, like, film something today and post it tomorrow. Like, we're very good about doing that. And it's just. It's made it to where one. It feels very just natural now to just film our life. And that, that part I feel like, is really cool because we don't have to think about, like, content ideas. It's just like, oh, I have a doctor's appointment today. Let's film that.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

And that's probably why it does feel so, like, just genuine and real, because it literally is just our life. Like, that's what we share.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

And I think you talk about, like, creators having to, like, lean into, like, and like, fake a personality. I think they mistakenly build a personality that isn't them. And we're kind of lucky in that. I think it was just busyness that we were like, we just have to put our life, like, that's all we have time to do for our daily, you know, saying we do a video every day. It's like, the only way we can keep up with that is just to film our life.

[Kay (K)]

And so it wasn't even, like, a choice.

[Taylor (T)]

We're, like, mistakenly set an expectation of, like, if you watch our content, you're just going to see us. There's no performing that needs to happen. You know what I mean?

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. How did you guys meet?

[Kay (K)]

Oh, my gosh. We met through, I like to say through mutual friends, because it's a little bit, like, more romantic than the actual way we met. We met in. In a bar. Like, it was a very, like, it was all you could do it. We. We were in a small town, and that's like, really the only place that people would go to hang out, like, over 21. And we were in there. And I knew the guys he was with. They were military guys that I was Friends with that. Some of my girlfriends had dated. And I saw him, and I was like, who is that blonde guy? I was like, you need to introduce me to him. And we met that day, and it was just like, ever since then, I think we've just been kind of inseparable, like.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, we really, like, stuck onto each other and. And became friends and. Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

What branch were you in?

[Taylor (T)]

The Air Force.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. And were you still in the Air Force at that time?

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, wow.

[Taylor (T)]

So I. I had just got back from a deployment, and we were, I think, two more years. Like, I was in the military, and we were, like. We weren't married or anything yet. We just dated. But, yeah, for like, two years. We dated while I was in the military before I got out.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

And what were you doing at that time?

[Kay (K)]

I was so. I had recently been divorced, and I was kind of trying to find my thing, you know, I didn't have a degree or anything and was a single mom, so I was working. I think at the time I was working at a place called Factory Connection. It's like a clothing store. Like, I'm not even kidding you. I got, like, 17 hours a week. Like, it was really bad. It was pitiful. But that's what I did for a while. And then I did. I worked at Sally's.

[Taylor (T)]

Yep.

[Kay (K)]

That. That's one of my favorite jobs I've.

[Avery Woods]

Ever had, the beauty supply store. Oh, that place is like, a woman's dream.

[Kay (K)]

Oh, I held a key, and I'm proud of that.

[Avery Woods]

She's like, I have a security clearance. Yeah. Sally's key. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

I was basically the assistant manager without the title, but, yeah, I love that. And I. And I. I was a hard worker, though. I did that. And I was. I would leave that job and I would go waitress at a steakhouse that was, like. It was only open from, like, four to midnight or something. And so I would go and I'd work four to midnight, and then I'd go home. And that was my. That was our life for, like, two years.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

How old was your daughter when you guys met?

[Kay (K)]

She. When we met, she was two, almost three. But he didn't actually meet her until about six months into our relationship together. And so she. At that point, she was, like, 3 years old.

[Avery Woods]

I resonate a lot with you just because I'm a step mom and I've been a stepmom for almost 12 years now. And it's. Us. Being a step parent is a role that people just don't understand unless you're in It. It's really. It's really something that can be so rewarding, but also really challenging. Do you remember? Because I specifically remember when my husband told me about his daughters, and that was like, a very shocking thing for me. Do you remember when you found out about Kay having a daughter?

[Taylor (T)]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it was almost instantly, like, she's. She was always so big into. Well, still is just so big into Kinsley and, like, talking about Kinsley and so. But, like, I think back, and I don't remember feeling like. Like scared or, like, any kind of weird feelings about it, which I was young, so maybe I didn't, like, put a whole thought of it into the time we were just dating. You know, we. We didn't have plans of getting married.

[Kay (K)]

I didn't think very serious.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, she was like, straight up, you know, hey, I have a daughter. You know, I don't feel comfortable you meeting her yet, because I don't know you, and I don't want her to meet people. But, yeah, I. I don't remember. I know what you mean, though. Like, that kind of, like, almost standoffish or, like, scared because you're, you know, a daughter that's three years old or whatever, you know, coming into your life.

[Kay (K)]

I have a video of the very first day that they met. Like, their inner. Their first interactions together. I mean, she literally was like. Like, she had known her her whole life. She's very comfortable and, like, talking, like, their whole. Just the bond that they had from the start. Like, I knew in that instant that this was, like, gonna work out because he was just so good with her, and I. And it was surprising because he's younger than me. I. I'm like 17 months older than him, I think, or something, but.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, okay.

[Kay (K)]

I thought, no, it's not. Okay. No, no, it's not that bad, but. But he also, like, was not. I mean, I was very young when I had my daughter, so most people my age did not have children. And especially guys my age are younger than me. For sure. They didn't have children. They weren't looking to be step parents. And so that was always something I started with. If I met somebody, I was like, look, I have a daughter. Like, just so you know, because I know we're young, but I. This is my situation. And there are guys that were, like, from the get go, like, I don't like that. Like, they would talk to me more or whatever. But Tay was never like that. So, Yeah, I.

[Avery Woods]

There was a. Obviously a gap of time that was with my husband Before I met his daughters. But I remember the first time I met them, our oldest looked at me after spending the day with me and was just. Just said, I love you. And I remember I was like, that was it for me. Like, there was no. I was 19 at that time. And I was like, there's no taking her away. Yeah, like, that's it. It's. It's just like an immediate bond. It's such a special thing, and it's also such a difficult role. And so I just want to say I praise you so much for taking that role on, because it can be so hard. But I think you've done such an incredible job, given her such a great life. So you should be so proud of yourself. You know, that's an amazing thing. And you were so young too. And not to. Not to put down men, but, like, you know, they mature a little bit later. But for you to take on that role is amazing. Like, I tease my husband all the time. I'm like, I met you and you're 24, and it wasn't until you're 30 that I was like, there he is.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, there's that. Mature.

[Kay (K)]

No, that's why I was saying, like, I feel like it scared a lot of guys off. Like, that scares guys off at that age. I mean, he was 21 when we met. And to hear that, like, you're 22 with a three year old, that's. I feel like as a guy who's not married, who doesn't have kids, like, that's. That's a lot like, you know what I mean? And for him to just take that on and he's never, ever treated her differently. I mean, there were times in our marriage where we didn't think we'd have children together. And we were fine with that because we just knew that we had Kinsley.

[Avery Woods]

We were.

[Kay (K)]

We were good.

[Avery Woods]

I love that. How old is she now?

[Kay (K)]

She will be 14 in October. Wow. She's 13. I'm gonna keep saying 13. I should 14 as long as I can. But yeah, she's. She's 13 and she loves.

[Taylor (T)]

She's smart.

[Kay (K)]

She's very smart.

[Taylor (T)]

She's very, like, mature for her age.

[Kay (K)]

She acts like she's like, 17. Yeah, she's very mature. She just designed her entire room. We gave her a budget and she ordered everything.

[Taylor (T)]

Interested in, like, interior design? Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Cool. That's so fun.

[Kay (K)]

I dragged her to the store the other day because I'm in my nesting phase right now where I'm like, not just trying to do the nursery. I'm also trying to do, like, our entire house, like, at once. Like, I'm taking on, like, every project.

[Avery Woods]

I've ever wanted to at the end of pregnancy. You're like, what can't I do right now? I gotta get it all done. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

I, like, dragged her to the store, and I was like, okay, Kinsley, I need your expertise because you just did your room, and I don't know what pillows to get for the couch. And she's, like, been helping me. And it's. It's really cool. It's. It's nice having somebody with her maturity level, like, as my. Like, my little bestie, you know? So it's. That. That's been really fun.

[Taylor (T)]

Every time we have a co collab, you know, she's like, launching a product. We always go to Kinsley and we're like, what are the girls gonna think of this?

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, which one's the best one?

[Avery Woods]

Honestly, it's geni. Do the same with my daughters. They're 15 and 13 now, and I'm like, so what are the young, like, TikTok kids into? Yeah, Well, I also don't scroll on my for you page anymore. I haven't for, like, probably six months or so. It's just not good for my mental health. And I also don't read comments anymore. And so I don't really know what's going on. Like, I'll ask Scott or my daughters. I'm like, what's. Like, what are. What's a trending sound? What are people doing? Because, honestly, they know. They know more than anyone. Yeah. How was she becoming a big sister?

[Kay (K)]

She is so good at being a big sister. She. So she actually has. She's five years apart from her sister on her dad's side. So she had been a big sister with her, but she obviously had never experienced that with us. And she has just been so good. Like, she carries her around. She'll. I mean, I trust her as much as I trust. Hey. With her. Like, I mean, I wouldn't leave her alone with her yet. I'm not quite that comfortable. But, like, she'll sit and play with her. She organizes her toys. Like, she's. I could not ask for better from a. From a preteen teenage daughter.

[Taylor (T)]

Not preteen anymore.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, she's pre teen. She's pre preteen. She's like, actually, she's not teenager until she's 16.

[Avery Woods]

Just like, going lower and lower.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

She's actually 12.

[Avery Woods]

That's so funny in my head.

[Kay (K)]

She's young.

[Avery Woods]

So obviously you show your youngest daughter, but you don't show your oldest daughter. And I've, I've battled a lot too with like showing my kids and not showing my kids. And recently I stopped showing my kids. And there was a point for about three years where I showed my youngest kids but not my oldest kids. And people had a lot to say about it or opinions. And the reason I actually did that was because when we got newborn photos for my youngest daughter, Stevie, there were so many negative comments about my teenage daughter's appearances. And that was the moment where I told my husband, I said, this is something that even though they don't have social media, kids at their school do have social media. And what worried me was those kids then showing them what people are saying. And that's just something I won't contribute to because I was really worried about. I mean, I know what people say about me and how much it affects my mental health. And I can't imagine being a very, very young girl and having millions of people's opinions. So that was the reason that I didn't show them for about three years. And then they came to me and were like, mom, we want to do these trends. And my husband and I kind of talked about it about a year ago and so I started introducing them again. And then recently I just got to a point where their safety was being compromised too much and so I took them off. So I understand both sides very well.

[Kay (K)]

It's hard. It's a. Yeah, it's natural to want.

[Taylor (T)]

To like show your family. Right? Like any. Everyone on Instagram that doesn't have a following, they're going to post the family photos and they're going to post, you know, the videos of them at the ballpark playing baseball. You know what I mean?

[Avery Woods]

Like, yeah, they're my biggest accomplishments. So it's hard to keep that away because that is my everyday. Like we don't have a nanny, we don't even have a date night babysitter. Like if we go out, we're using a family member. That's why we moved back home. And so I am with them 24 hours a day. But also I am the provider for my family and social media is my job. So it really is a battle. Talk me through not showing your oldest versus showing your youngest, Ellie. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

So we've had the same stance since Ellie was born. Actually we talked a lot about it, you know, because we didn't show kins before Ellie was born. And the way our content Works is. It's very natural. And it's just, you know, if Ellie's there, she's there. You know, we could go 20 videos in a row and Ellie never appears because it's just not what's happening in our life at that moment.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

So for now, it's just, you know, she's a baby. She, she, we. We buy her something and she, she thinks it's cute and we think it's cute and whatever. But, you know, as she grows up, if she's not there to be, you know, in whatever's happening that day, then she won't be there. You know, we don't perform. You know what I mean?

[Kay (K)]

It's not ever going to ever be a situation where we are needing or relying on our children to make our content.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

Because it's, it was never that way with us. Like, I think a lot of people maybe that are new to our channel don't understand that. Like, like, I see, I mean, I say I don't read comments, but there's times I see comments where it's like, you know, why you're making all this money off your child? And I'm like, you don't understand that. We grew. Our biggest blow up was before our child was even born. Like, you didn't even see our child. And I don't want to. I don't consider us a family channel.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, we don't even consider ourselves family channels.

[Kay (K)]

She's there, so we share her when that, when it, when it's natural. But it will never, ever be like a performative thing with her. And there. I mean, I think about it, we talk about it all the time. Like, at what point are we just gonna kind of pull away and not share as much? Like, I'm not saying I would never share a photo, but it's like, when are we just not really gonna like, have her in weekly content? Even with Kinsley, it's.

[Taylor (T)]

She's at that age, you know what I mean, where she, she has no interest in it now, so of course she's not gonna be.

[Kay (K)]

There's no interest. But also, like, I'm also co parenting, so you know that you have to respect who you're co parenting with. And if he's not comfortable, then you can't just like, force that. I wouldn't want him to do that with me. But also it's like Kinsley has friends that follow us. Like you said, like, there's children her age that are gonna see the content. And I remember being 14, 13, whatever, whatever. Age she is right now. But I remember being that agent. I remember thinking, like, like a lot about what people thought about me, like my friends, my peers.

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Kay (K)]

And if she ever came to us and was like, mom, I want to be in the content. I want to have a tick. Like, she doesn't even have an interest in having social media, like a private account. She loves that. And that's what makes her very different than a lot of teenagers, I think, is that she truly has zero interest in social media. And maybe it's because of our job, maybe it's because she sees what we do every day, but she has zero interest in it work.

[Taylor (T)]

Social media's work to her.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, yeah. She really just does not care. And it's made it easy to be able to just like, keep her separate from it. But if she ever did come to us, I mean, it's an understanding amongst everybody that, you know, if she ever wanted that, like, we would help her kind of like be in the content if she wanted to be. And show her, like, what you should share, what you shouldn't share. Like, you know, however, safety and education.

[Avery Woods]

Behind it, for sure. Yeah, that's important.

[Taylor (T)]

Your content style also dictates what you're gonna get back from your audience, right?

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Taylor (T)]

We're very friendly, family friendly, and, like, safe. And like, we don't go into suggestive humor even. You know what I mean? Because. And so we don't get any negative comments about Kinsley. I mean, you know, the pictures are out there. They can see what Kinsley looks. I've never seen a negative comment about Kinsley's looks. I've never seen a negative comment about Ellie. It's just not something. Because of our content style. It's not something we see. You know what I mean? But even with that said, if they have no interest, they're not. They're not going to be in it. I mean, we do really good about not showing Kinsley and turning the camera or blurring parts of the scene and.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah. Well, I even saw. Saw it was a magazine cover. Was it People? Oh, yeah. And her face was blurred. But I love that she was included and I think that that's okay to do.

[Kay (K)]

You know, that's like where the line has gotten really foggy for me is because for the longest time I felt like not sharing her was what I was like, not showing anything. Not even like an arm, a piece of her arm. I was like, I can't even show that. And I felt like that was crossing the line. But, you know, we talked with her and the understanding is she doesn't want her face shown. She doesn't want to be, like, on camera, like with her personality or, like, talking her voice. Like, she doesn't want that stuff on camera. But, like having like, her leg in a picture or in a video, as long as her face is not being shown, like, that's not crossing the line. And so I think that's kind of tricky. That's been tricky. And a lot of people are like, oh, we didn't even know you had a child. And it's like, well, I didn't know what I could share. Like, I felt like I couldn't share anything.

[Taylor (T)]

I think it's always evolving.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, it's like, it's always like with you. Like, it can go back and forth. And it's one of those things that every family has to figure that out for themselves, like, what works for them. Because it's not going to be the same for every single family and every child. So it's. I don't know, it's a really weird. It's a hard area for us.

[Avery Woods]

It really is. And it's the battle that I face that when you don't want to fight with people, but you so badly want to, like, scream at the top of your lungs and defend yourself. But when I took my oldest two daughters offline for a few years, but I was showing my young, youngest, it was, you don't love them as much automatically, because I'm their stepmom, it was automatically, you don't love them as much. They're not part of your family. You don't include them. I'm like, just because they're not in my content online has. Has nothing to do with the relationship that I have with them or the love that I have for them. I chose to take them offline in order to protect them and nothing else. That's it.

[Kay (K)]

That's. That's really, I think, is the hardest part for me as a aspect, as her mother and as Ellie's mother, is that, you know, I. I'll have the same person saying, you don't love your child. She's left out of everything. You don't share her. And then that same person in the same breath is saying, you don't love your child because you share her. And it's like, you don't do anything right in this industry. Like, you can keep them off of the platform. That just means you don't love them and they're not included in anything. But if you share them, then you're using them for money and it's like there's no winning. So you just really have to do what you feel comfortable doing as a parent, you know what you're comfortable doing. Yeah. And what your kids are comfortable with you doing.

[Avery Woods]

It's the classic you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. And that's what social media is. Which is why I got to a point where I was like, okay, why am I looking at mentions? Why am I looking at comments? Why am I looking at tags? These people want me to see the mean things and the stuff that they have to say, so the best thing I can do is just kind of remove myself.

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[Kay (K)]

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[Avery Woods]

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[Taylor (T)]

I mean, not really. Like when we first post a video, you know, I try to like interact a little. Just. I think that's just good practice.

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Kay (K)]

Okay. Our comments more than I am comments of like, like the people exclusive of our baby shower. I. I can't bring myself to look at those comments because I know there's a lot of people on there that don't follow us, that aren't they don't have our best interests at heart. Like they're not going to be nice about it.

[Avery Woods]

Sure.

[Kay (K)]

And I mentally Just, I don't want to deal with that, so I won't look at that stuff. But as far as, like, our channel goes, it's very. It's very positive on our channel.

[Avery Woods]

Very positive.

[Kay (K)]

It's very. It's very rare, honestly, to see a comment that is so bad that it hurts my mental health on our channel. And I have no tolerance for it. I will block them the minute I see a mean comment. Like, I will block the person they have no right to be on my channel anymore. And I. Maybe that is why over time, it's kind of evolved to where we don't really have a lot of hate. Like, we've kind of created this safe space on our channel. I know. Like, I'll go to other people's channels and read comments, and I see so much hate, and I'm like, Like, are you not blocking these people? Because I would. They would be gone.

[Avery Woods]

Like, no. Yeah, I. I think it's so funny how people are so against the block button. Like, so many people make videos, they just blocked me. Or this girl blocked me.

[Kay (K)]

It's probably deserved.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Or I've had people message me, like, hey, girl, I'm not sure if I said something, but it seems like you blocked me on Tick Tock. I'm like, if I blocked you on Tick Tock, there was a reason for it.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, I get that on my channel. They're like, does K&T's Instagram not like, is it not? What happened to it? Did it get taken? I probably blocked you. And I'll call them out in my comments. I'm. I probably blocked you. Well, I've never said anything. I'm like, did you like a mean comment? Because if you liked him in comment, I probably blocked you too.

[Avery Woods]

Or what I love.

[Kay (K)]

No tolerance for it.

[Avery Woods]

You. What I love, too is when there's like, a negative video about someone. Like, if there's a negative video about me back when I was plummeting in my mental health and reading everything about myself. And in the comments of the video, they're responding about how much they hate me or whatever their problem is. And I click and they're following me like, no, I'm blocking you. Like, you think they don't see that.

[Kay (K)]

But, like, they realize that we're real people and we do see this stuff.

[Avery Woods]

Like, yes.

[Kay (K)]

Like, I don't care how big you are. Like, back to the Backstreet Boys. For. For an instance, like, they're huge. Like, everybody knows who the Backstreet Boys are, but they're real People, like, I met them, they're the most real people, and a lot of them don't even have as big of Instagram accounts as we do. And, like, you know, they see their comments. Like, we all see our comments. And to talk about us as if we're not there is like, that's what gets me. I'm like, okay, you're done. Like, we're not even. You're not playing around. You're gone. You're not going to be on my channel.

[Avery Woods]

No, I love that. I love having that mindset. So as your youngest two get older, Ellie and Baby Bug, as you call Baby no name yet, do you have a plan of on showing them online? So do you think you would wait until they're at the age where they're Kinsley's age and they're like, I don't want to be shown, or do you think that that's a decision you would make for them?

[Taylor (T)]

I think it kind of happens naturally. Like I was saying, you know, if Ellie's four and she's much more interested in playing with her toys than whatever's going on in the living room, she may not show up in a video for two months. And then. Then when she randomly decides to be there when we're, you know, filming our day, then she does show up. This is the way the content works. It's not. We don't do the trends. We don't do the voiceovers and things that you'll see a lot of family channels. That's not our stuff, you know, so if she's there, she's there. And if not, and if she ever voices that she doesn't want to be there, then I make a conscious effort to not put her there.

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Taylor (T)]

If she's like, I'm bored. I don't. Like, when you guys film, like, I'll make sure you're not there then. You know what I mean? Like, I'll. I won't put you through that.

[Kay (K)]

Because people ask all the time, like, how. How do you keep Kinsley off the camera? Like, she doesn't even appear to ever be there. And I'm like, you see, like, what's. What the camera's pointing at, and that's it. Like, there's so much going on beyond the lens that you don't see. And it's very easy to just pan away or, like, cut out a part where she was maybe, like, you just.

[Taylor (T)]

Cut her out, like, zoom it in and, you know, she's off to the side.

[Kay (K)]

Make the conscious effort. And I Think right now, like, like to your question, I don't think. I feel like we need to make a conscious effort to just completely blur them. I'm not at that point yet where I feel like I need to do that, but I, I do feel like there's going to be a day where we aren't maybe showing her as often just because like naturally I think it'll just kind of phase out. Right now she's little and she's doing.

[Taylor (T)]

All her little smiles and. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

You're holding her all the time. Like when Bug's born, we're gonna have her on us at all times.

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Kay (K)]

And we told people from the get go with Ellie, like, like, you'll probably see Ellie. You're gonna see her face, you're gonna see her, she's gonna be there. But this is not gonna change from like K and Tay's relationship. Like, that's our channel.

[Avery Woods]

Yep.

[Kay (K)]

It's not about our family. Like we're not gonna. I don't like want to associate or like say that I'm one of those like stereotypical family channels that force their kids to do content. Because I don't feel like that's us at all.

[Taylor (T)]

I feel like a lot of people, the way we look at our channel is a lot of people do content to do content. But ours is, is like a documentary. It's like our daily life.

[Avery Woods]

Life. It's like home videos. Yeah. Yeah. Which I love.

[Taylor (T)]

That's kind of what it comes from. Because my dad was like a VHS dad. Like I have tapes and tapes and tapes of every event that ever happened. And that's kind of what I'm doing. And I love looking back and I can go to any date and see what we were doing. And it's not, I go to that date and see a trend or I go to that date and see some quirky thing that I wanted to do.

[Kay (K)]

That.

[Taylor (T)]

No, it's like a documentary of that day. You know what I mean? And so I think that's where it differs from like other family channels.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. What you were saying too about. Because I dealt with the same thing. I remember when my son first started part time preschool. So it was just my youngest daughter and I. And so she would be in the majority of my content. It was your son. Poor him, he doesn't get as much attention. And I'm like, no, you're not understanding. He's in school and I'm just filming what's going on. But also I love to tell people, like you're seeing maybe Less than two minutes of my day. If, if my video is that long. If not, maybe like 45 seconds to 90 seconds of my. That's what you're seeing.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

The other 23 and a half hours isn't being recorded.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know, and I think people don't understand that on social media. They think that because one child isn't shown, that speaks to the lack of attention. When really you're hardly filming any part of your day you guys are living on without your phone in your hands, raising your kids as good parents.

[Kay (K)]

People also think like, oh, you're film. Like, you must just like, like not have a life because you're just filming it like constantly. And it's, it's really not like that.

[Taylor (T)]

No, you get good at knowing when to pull it out. Like, wait a second. Funny moment.

[Avery Woods]

And then you edit it later. Like I, my, my. The time that I edit is when my kids are down after bedtime and I'm laying in bed editing next to my husband. Like, yeah, they don't see me on my phone 24 7. Like, people think like, my kids don't even know what I do for a living. My oldest two do because people at their school know who I am. But like, my kids still say, I'm a nurse.

[Kay (K)]

Nurse.

[Avery Woods]

I'm like, period.

[Kay (K)]

I mean, you are though. You're always gonna be a nurse.

[Avery Woods]

Technically, yes. But actually, funny story. When my son fell on the playground, he went to the school nurse and he came home and his band aid was really dirty. And I was like, let's take your band aid off before bath time. He's like, no, the nurse said I have to keep it on. And I was like trying to be smart. And I was like, well, I'm a nurse, honey. Like, you can take it off, it's dirty. He goes, but you're not a real nurse. And I was like, you know what, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I was like, not my 6 year old telling me, that's so funny.

[Kay (K)]

My mom was a nurse. And so I still go to my mom. Like, she, she's, she's disabled now, but she, I go to her for everything. I'm like, mom, what do I do in this situation? Like, because I just will always see her as a nurse. Like, she's not been active in years, but she's always been a nurse in my mind.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, the amount of photos of like kids rashes that I get from my friends because I was pediatric. So all my friends are like, my son woke up with this on his leg. What is this? Like, that's. That'll be my life forever.

[Taylor (T)]

That's how I feel about dentistry. Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

Oh, I love dentistry. Like, if I. If we hadn't found social media, I probably would have wanted to go back to school for, like, to be a dentist, because I just. I genuinely have a passion for dentistry. But it is. It's a lot harder to do that. I feel, like, on the body, because you're standing and you're bent over on a patient's mouth all day. Like, it's so, like, taxing on your body.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

People are always texting K about, like.

[Kay (K)]

Dental questions, all the questions.

[Avery Woods]

Well, you're the first person I've ever had on the podcast that get put in an Invisalign before the interview.

[Kay (K)]

You're standing, taking it out.

[Avery Woods]

Probably Tay's holding, like, this tray, and she's like, hold on one second. Pops her Invisalign.

[Kay (K)]

I have it in 22 hours a day. I don't have time to have it out if I want to eat later, so I have to wear it right now.

[Taylor (T)]

She follows all the rules.

[Avery Woods]

I'm obsessed. Is it. Your teeth are perfect, though? Is it just to keep them in place?

[Kay (K)]

I have had them for a year.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Kay (K)]

And I've done. This is my fourth. Fourth. My fourth refinement, which essentially means, like, my first set was, like, 12 weeks, and then I went into another set to correct some things, and I'm trying to pull down my canine right now, and that's the only attachment I even have on any of my teeth. The rest of them are just to keep.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

Nothing else is doing anything. It's just that one tooth.

[Kay (K)]

So everything's basically. I mean, I could be done with it. I'm just nitpicking at this point. But I did have braces for years through high school, so my teeth were pretty straight before. But it's really just nitpicking at this point.

[Avery Woods]

I feel like as you get older, too, everything starts shifting.

[Kay (K)]

It does. Yeah. That's what happened is I had a retainer, and my retainer broke, and then my teeth kind of shifted just a little bit, like, ever so slightly. I was like, let me just do Invisalign real quick and just get those back in place.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

It has me doing it. So, like, carry my retainer. Blur this, though. It's, like, really dirty. Don't.

[Avery Woods]

The way you reached in your pocket.

[Kay (K)]

He's so bad. He doesn't have a case. Like, I've got him a case and he won't use it.

[Taylor (T)]

I just have my. Pull the pocket off before I put it in.

[Avery Woods]

No, no, no, no. Do you at least have the tablet? Yeah, to, like, clean them? Okay. Thank God.

[Kay (K)]

Ask him if he uses them.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, I have them. She didn't ask if I use them.

[Avery Woods]

He has them. That's true. He didn't lie. He technically didn't lie. But those could definitely use a tablet or two.

[Taylor (T)]

I brushed them.

[Kay (K)]

Or new trays. I mean, he could just get some new ones.

[Avery Woods]

Brush them with a toothbrush.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, I do.

[Avery Woods]

I used to do that. And then I got those tablets and I pulled it out for the first time, seeing how clean they were. I said, oh, these were never clean.

[Kay (K)]

Use them. You can also, when you go to the dentist to get a cleaning, they can run it through, like, their little, like, machine, and it. It, like, shakes all the. It tastes really bad. So make sure you rinse it off after. Sometimes they give it right back to you and it's like, if you put it right in your mouth, it's like.

[Avery Woods]

The queen of teeth everywhere. You hear this. Okay, on to pregnancy, because I love pregnancy. I love pregnant women. I loved being pregnant. What has been the best part of this pregnancy for you?

[Kay (K)]

Oh, man. The best part, honestly, has been. My lupus has been in remission. So I. After the first trimester. The first trimester was pretty brutal after that, after I got, like, 12 weeks on, it's been so nice. I've. I've really just been trying to soak in, like, how much travel I've been able to do. Everybody's like, oh, you're pregnant. How are you doing all this stuff? I'm like, I feel 10 times better right now than I do when I'm not pregnant. Like, 10 times better. And I'm. I'm already dreading the, like, what's going to happen. About seven weeks postpartum, for me, it's probably. That's probably when it'll hit. So I'm just doing as much work as I can this year. And that's been amazing to just really be able to, like, see places and meet people and grind.

[Taylor (T)]

She also has the pregnancy card, so anytime she doesn't want to do something, she's like, oh, but I'm pregnant.

[Avery Woods]

No, literally soak that up.

[Kay (K)]

You can physically see when you're pregnant. Like, people take it so much more seriously than, like. Like, for instance, when I'm. When I just have lupus and I'm just normal K. They're like, oh, but I don't see your sickness like invisible. So they don't even. The way that you get treated when you're pregnant versus having a chronic illness is insane to me.

[Avery Woods]

When were you, when were you diagnosed with lupus?

[Kay (K)]

I was officially diagnosed in January, right before I found out I was pregnant. But I have been. So last year was the year after I had my daughter. It. That was when my lupus like flared to the point that all my labs started showing all the things that they needed to show to get diagnosed. But I've been struggling with issues for about five. It was about almost six years really when I got my diagnosis.

[Avery Woods]

What kind of symptoms were you having?

[Kay (K)]

Fever, rashes, body aches, joint inflammation, all the very. I mean it, it kind of. I mean you're a nurse, but like, so you probably know. But a lot of those symptoms kind of overlap.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

And it's very hard to figure out with autoimmune conditions, like which autoimmune condition you have. And even though in my heart I always pushed and advocated for myself, like, I know it's lupus, like all my symptoms align with lupus. I know that's what it is. But the labs just didn't show it until last year. Wow. So I finally got my diagnosis and then I got pregnant and I was.

[Taylor (T)]

Like, she was about to start treatment.

[Kay (K)]

I was about to start the treatment.

[Taylor (T)]

Pregnancy safe.

[Kay (K)]

I was super excited to get on the medicine. But you can't take that medicine when you're breastfeeding or when you're pregnant.

[Avery Woods]

Okay.

[Kay (K)]

So that's. But I'm telling myself I'm in a season right now. This is a season. Yes. Have my babies and then. And I'm just gonna get through it. And once I'm done with all of the baby season stuff, then I'll get on medicine and I'll be good for sure.

[Avery Woods]

How far apart will Ellie and the new baby be?

[Taylor (T)]

Almost two years.

[Kay (K)]

Almost two years, but it'll be about 23, 23 months.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. That's a great gap. They're gonna be a little besties excited. Does she understand kind of what's going on there? Babies in your belly?

[Kay (K)]

No, I really don't know. She will definitely point to my belly and say, baby or bug.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

She likes to lift my shirt up and I'm like, ellie, we can't do this in public. She'll like lift my shirt all the way up and pull my pants down if I have like these high waisted things on. And she's like, bug and like points at my belly.

[Taylor (T)]

She's felt the movements before.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, fun.

[Taylor (T)]

But I don't know if she knows what that is.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, she's like, yeah. Oh, for sure.

[Kay (K)]

She 100 thinks there's going to be a bug delivered and, like. Like that she can smush outside if.

[Avery Woods]

He has, like, eight legs or something.

[Taylor (T)]

She's in her parroting stage where everything you say to her, she says last two words. And so you never know what she knows.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

I'm like, does she know that or is she just saying the two words?

[Kay (K)]

That's true.

[Avery Woods]

Looking at you in person, Tay, I feel like she looks so much like you. Yeah, Yeah, I see. I do. I see a lot of her in you.

[Kay (K)]

He never gets that.

[Avery Woods]

Really?

[Kay (K)]

No.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, I see. Oh, I see. So much like your eye shape, hair color.

[Kay (K)]

I've always thought the eye shape as well.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

When she was born, I was like, she has his eyes and his toes.

[Taylor (T)]

You know how I know this is so off topic, but you know how when you have a newborn, you're, like, in the bliss, and so you're like, my newborn's so beautiful. And then you look back and they look like an old.

[Kay (K)]

Like, oh, whoa. Like, wait.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Or when they start, like, completely balding. Like, my son had, like, this, like, bald on top and, like, this weird wraparound hair. And I was like, yeah, I was.

[Kay (K)]

Like, like a little old man. Like a raisin. There's, like.

[Taylor (T)]

I was, like, purging for space. You probably do this on your phone, you know, where it's always full. Oh, I was purging, and I got back to, like, the 20, 23, and I was looking at her, and she was actually a cute newborn. She didn't look like an old person.

[Kay (K)]

I was like, she was such a wrinkly thing.

[Taylor (T)]

I was so, like, ready to, like, go back and. And, you know, see her in hindsight and be like, oh, no, she looked like a little old woman. But no, she was like. She was like the most perfect little newborn.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, I don't know.

[Kay (K)]

I still think we all think that about our children. Yeah, she is. She is, in my opinion, very, very cute.

[Avery Woods]

I know my husband and I sometimes will be like, wow, we really have the most gorgeous children. And then as like, a joke, because we obviously know that's not true, but as a joke, we're like, do we have parent blindness? Like, you ever, like, worry about that where you're like, like, what if other people don't think that? But I'm like, you can never tell me otherwise.

[Kay (K)]

No, you know? No, I've had maybe two comments. I think in all of the 20. Something that says, like, you know, that baby's ugly or something stupid. It's really just somebody trying to probably get a rise out of me. They get blocked, obviously.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

But I don't get those comments very often. But I think even if I got those all the time, I would still think, yeah, no, she's adorable.

[Avery Woods]

And her little smile. Her. Her. And her little bathing suit sitting on the edge of the pool. Don't even get me. She's darling.

[Kay (K)]

She's precious. I'm so excited to have two. And I think they're going to look a lot alike because, I mean, this is the first time I'm getting to experience, like, children with the same father. See how strong my genes are? His genes are totally. And I really do think they're going to come out very similar.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, my kids are polar opposite. They don't even look like siblings. The only thing that ties them together is they have like this honey blonde hair. But my son is. Is so tan. He has my hazel eyes with big dimples. And then my daughter is so pale, bright, big blue eyes. Like, looks nothing like me. Not a lick like me.

[Kay (K)]

That's, you know, my older daughter. She's. She's very, like, olive complexion, dark hair. She looks like me, but she has a lot of dark features that she got from her dad, which I'm very pale. I have to fake tan. Same girl, you know, lighter hair, lighter eyes, all of the things. And so obviously Ellie, because he's the same as me. She's just, bless her heart, she's gonna have to use fake tanner. Yeah, she's gonna fry out in the sun. She's. But she's. She's so porcelain.

[Avery Woods]

Well, she has a mom that's an expert. She can teach her.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, like 15 minutes. You gotta wash the tan off your hands. You can't wear it after 15 minutes. It makes them too dark.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, I didn't know that trick. No.

[Taylor (T)]

I have to absorb it all.

[Avery Woods]

Well, I'm getting sprayed tomorrow, so I'm a little bit, bit pale right now.

[Kay (K)]

I've never had a spray tan.

[Avery Woods]

What?

[Kay (K)]

I do my own tan.

[Avery Woods]

Okay, this is.

[Kay (K)]

I need all the deets on it.

[Avery Woods]

This is not sponsored in any way, but next time you're in la, you need Dolce Glow.

[Kay (K)]

Okay. Wait, they have.

[Avery Woods]

I know your management right here. Okay. I'm telling you, she does Ev. Jlo, every celebrity. She does Jeff Bezos, which is insane. Like Jeff Bezos getting a tan every week is what really Sends me.

[Kay (K)]

Why am I not doing that?

[Avery Woods]

It is the most. Most hydrating. She's like, a little bit of shimmer in it, but you can rinse it off after two hours. You don't have to sleep in it, which is the best. And you wake up and it starts developing even more over time. So like, within, like, four, 24 to 48 hours, when it really starts to develop.

[Kay (K)]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

But it doesn't get, like, scaly. Like, I don't have to.

[Kay (K)]

Like, as it.

[Avery Woods]

Yes.

[Kay (K)]

Like, the week goes on, it just fades off.

[Avery Woods]

No, I don't have to scrub it off. It is. And she comes. Your house.

[Kay (K)]

House.

[Avery Woods]

You don't have to leave. So if you're, like, in a hotel room or staying with someone, she'll just come to you. Takes 15 minutes. Her name's Isabelle. She's the best.

[Kay (K)]

I'll give you her number. I know. Yeah. This contact because she's a sweetheart.

[Avery Woods]

She grew up in Dallas. She grew up in foster care. And like, all. All of her employees, like, she just comes from the most humble background and has built this empire. And now she has a line you can use at home. But, like, anytime I'm going on a trip, I'm like, hey, girl, you come over.

[Kay (K)]

I need her in Dallas.

[Avery Woods]

Especially being pregnant, you just have to stand there like this, and she'll take care.

[Kay (K)]

Oh. Trying to, like, put the tan on. You know, you have a mitt and. Yeah, on my legs or like, I've been down and it all comes off my belly because it sticks to my. To my thigh as I'm, like, you know, rubbing it down my leg, and I'm like, oh, I just have. Now I have to rub that spot again.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I don't miss that. Or like, shaving, like, bending over and shaving. Shaving. Oh, it's just. With your belly.

[Kay (K)]

Don't even get me started. Like, nothing. I. I can't get down there. It's. It's.

[Avery Woods]

You can't see anything. I can't see.

[Kay (K)]

I haven't been able to see since, like, 20 weeks pregnant.

[Avery Woods]

You're also very petite, though, so you're all belly. So it's a little bit different. You just have, like, a watermelon attached to you.

[Kay (K)]

I have a very short horse, though, so I naturally, like, I've. Thank goodness the high waist came back in style for a while because the low rise just was not a thing for me. I. My waist. I have to wear my pants, like, up to here because I don't have much of a torso. And so it's it makes it very hard. But that means like the minute I find out I'm pregnant, I'm already showing.

[Avery Woods]

You're very petite though. How tall are you?

[Kay (K)]

I'm five one.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, you're teeny.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, I'm super small.

[Avery Woods]

But that's also hard with pregnancy when you're so petite like that because you're just so belly, you know?

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, I think people don't understand. I get the comment all the time too. Like twins. Oh, it must be twins. I, I don't know how we're in 2025 and we're still asking. No, it's crazy. I have to like I replied to somebody yesterday, I was like, nancy, that's not nice to say. You don't say that to people. We're in 2020. Nancy, she, bless her heart that she was like, oh, I did not mean to offend you. And I was like, it's okay. I was like, but just for future reference, we just don't say that to people about their bodies because it's a very vulnerable time and your body's changing.

[Avery Woods]

And it's already hard enough to watch your body go through this. Especially after multiple pregnancies because you start showing earlier. You could gain weight easier because your body's like, okay, we're doing it again. So I remember some lady stopped me at Ross Dress for Less when I was pregnant with my son because I was massive and she was like, any day now. And I looked at her and I was like, actually I'm only 28 weeks. And she was like twins. And I was like, you just keep going. I'm giving you the option to like stop what you're saying. But she didn't.

[Kay (K)]

Gosh, that's crazy. No, that's, that's probably the most annoying part of like pregnancy. You asked me what was different between my pregnancies. I've gained the most weight this pregnancy. Forgot about that.

[Avery Woods]

You look incredible by the way. I know you probably don't feel it cuz I remember being in my third trimester. You look amazing.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you. I think the only difference really is that I worked out my entire pregnancy last pregnancy and now I have a home gym and I don't work out. And it doesn't make any sense to me because I don't have to go to the gym. So why am I not working out?

[Avery Woods]

I got something to say about that. We're remodeling our house and there was an in home gym that they built and I blew the wall out to make my closet Bigger. And my contractor was like, dude, this has, like, mirrors, like a padded floor. I said, tamir, I.

[Kay (K)]

You're like, I'm not gonna.

[Avery Woods]

Will not use my own gym when it's in my house. I'm telling you, I have to get my butt to the Pilates studio or wherever I'm going, and someone needs to yell at me and tell me what to do because I will not hold myself accountable.

[Kay (K)]

That's so true. It's so tr. Really thought I was saving myself, like, time. I was like, oh, I'll work out. If I get like, we're gonna have a gym in the house. I'll just go downstairs and pop in during nap time. During nap time, I'm like, I want to sit on the couch and eat chips. I don't want to get up. I don't want to do anything.

[Taylor (T)]

I'm not a good helper. Kay's like, no. Anytime she has the slightest motivation to work out, I'm like, you go work out. I'm gonna lay he won't do it with me. And she's like, please, I need you.

[Kay (K)]

I need his motivation. And he doesn't understand that if he doesn't do it with me, I'm not gonna.

[Taylor (T)]

We can start a new thing when. When bugs born.

[Kay (K)]

He keeps saying, like, once bug's born, we're gonna work out. I'm like, with a newborn and a two year old, like, make. That doesn't make sense. We're not going to do that.

[Avery Woods]

You know what, though? You'll find. You'll find a way, a routine. Even when they're that close together, you'll be good.

[Kay (K)]

We. We need to. Because I love working out. I was really big in the, like, fitness thing for like five or six years before I got pregnant with Ellie. Lost like 30 pounds. I was very into, like, counting my macros. I was like, I was super into it. And then it was like, I got pregnant with this one and I'm like, yeah, okay. Fit.

[Avery Woods]

Do you lift?

[Kay (K)]

I do. I do lift. I don't like cardio. I. I really. What started it, honestly for me was that I got. We got married. I got very happy and. And we were in a healthy relationship. And I was making crock pot meals and I was gaining weight, but not in good places. And so I wasn't necessarily. I wouldn't say I was fat or big, but I was the biggest I'd ever been in, like, my belly and my face, my arms, you know, things I didn't really want to be big in. Not not even my backside. It wasn't even, like, the good places. So I felt very small. Like, my frame felt small, but. But I was like, almost like Big Bird, I guess, is the only way I could explain it felt like Big Bird. My face felt big, my belly felt big, and that was it. So I was like, you know, I need to, like, I need to work out. And I started doing tons of research. And back then, this was like, 2017, 2018 maybe, when, like, the fitness Instagram girls were, like, really big, and it was all about weightlifting. Nobody did cardio. It was like, you need a weightlift. That's how you're going to gain muscle. That's how you're going to lose the weight. That's what I did. I, like, taught myself with all those girls. Helps, like, I follow so many people on my personal channel that have got me through years.

[Avery Woods]

That's one of my best friends is Whitney Simmons. And I tell her all the time, I'm like, you've helped.

[Kay (K)]

She was one of them.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I watched her. She's the best person ever. Okay. Speaking of eating chips, though, I want to know, do you have any weird pregnancy cravings?

[Kay (K)]

Oh, my gosh. My most recent one has been. I feel like it's, like, the weirdest one of all. It was, like, chocolate spaghetti. Wait, what? It was. No, it was so good. It was like, I wanted. So I love protein balls right now. Oh, yeah, that's my thing. I've been eating protein balls the entire pregnancy, and I. I wanted, like, a spaghetti meatball, but, like, with protein balls. And I was like, but I can't do red sauce with pro with protein balls. That's disgusting. I'm pregnant, and I know that, like, that's gross. And I was like, chocolate sauce would be so good. And so he did, like, this cream cheese, like, melt. He melted like, butter cream cheese, heavy cream, cream chocolate chocolate sauce. It was the most incredible.

[Taylor (T)]

Pour a little on the spaghetti, and.

[Kay (K)]

Then I topped it with bacon.

[Avery Woods]

Like normal spaghetti noodles?

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, like normal, because, you know, they're unflavored. If you just. You just do spaghetti, they don't have a flavor yet. A little bit of cream sauce, some. Some protein balls. You cut up the protein balls. So good.

[Avery Woods]

Shouldn't have told me that.

[Kay (K)]

But you have to do the bacon on top because that adds, like, that.

[Taylor (T)]

Bacon a little bit salty in there.

[Kay (K)]

It's protein. You need the extra protein.

[Avery Woods]

You ever had, like, a good maple bacon donut?

[Kay (K)]

Oh, exactly.

[Avery Woods]

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[Kay (K)]

The contractions after you have the baby. Nobody ever told me that after because I didn't have them with my first because it was my first. Like you don't really experience them that after and after I had my second it was like 12 years later and I'm like thinking oh this is gonna be I started having the worst Pain. I was like, something's wrong. Like, something's wrong. You need to check. And they, like, brought an ultrasound in, and they're like, girl, you're just having contractions. It's like, no, I need something. Like, I need the. The drugs or something. This is bad. And they're like, this is normal.

[Avery Woods]

Why don't people talk about your uterus shrinking?

[Kay (K)]

Nobody talks about that.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. As soon as my baby's latched, too.

[Kay (K)]

I was like, yes, that makes it worse.

[Avery Woods]

Because. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why they're always checking if your uterus is boggy.

[Kay (K)]

Yes. Yeah. Pressing on your belly. Like, I. I don't know why that's not, like, publicly talked about more.

[Avery Woods]

It hurts so bad. Like, your postpartum checks are so painful.

[Kay (K)]

It's horrible.

[Taylor (T)]

And the tongue tie, Like, I had.

[Kay (K)]

Never even heard of that, too.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

She was like. She was bleeding, and it was like.

[Kay (K)]

I breastfed my first, and it was a piece of cake. Like, I hate to be that person, but it was. Honestly, it was a breeze. I was like, I don't know why women are having hard times with this. Like, she would latch. It was great. Great. I mean, I got the job done. She was getting fat. Like, it was great. And then my second came around, and I was bleeding, and it was horrible. And I was like, what am I doing wrong? I did this before. Like, it should not be this hard. And somebody actually commented, and they were like, what? Check for a tongue tie or a lip tie? And I was like, okay. So I looked, and sure enough, her pediatrician was like, yeah, she has one. I'm like, why didn't they check this in the hospital? I've spent the last two weeks. I almost lost the ability to breastfeed. She lost weight. It was a whole thing. So this time around, like, in the hospital.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. It makes a big difference. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

Because I didn't have that.

[Avery Woods]

So one of my best friends. Her baby had tongue and lip tie so bad that we. She took her to a chiropractor just because her position of latching was so difficult. And, like, she almost kinked her neck a little bit. But once she figured that out, it was. Yeah, it was so much better. Oh, yeah.

[Kay (K)]

After it, we got it snipped, which I wish we would have just got it lasered, because I think it's supposed to heal better.

[Taylor (T)]

Faster and better. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

It.

[Kay (K)]

She ended up being fine, but we got it snipped at two weeks. And literally right after they snipped it, they're like, put her on See if she latches. See how. And it was literally night and day, like instantaneously, like from the snip. It was like she knew exactly what to do. And I was so thankful that we did that because I was able to go on and breastfeed for 14 months.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, that can be a. A positive thing about social media comments is you learn so much. Sometimes people are opinion, but people also.

[Taylor (T)]

Really want to help to dredge through it though. Like. Yeah, like taking a trash can, like trying to the good ones from the bad.

[Kay (K)]

A lot of people give the unsolicited advice and it's like the most.

[Taylor (T)]

It's like the worst advice.

[Kay (K)]

It's like, have you tried drinking water for my lupus? Have you tried essential oils on your temples?

[Taylor (T)]

Kay was talking about how a bug wasn't head down and someone commented and they were like, maybe she doesn't want to be upside down.

[Kay (K)]

Maybe she's just. Nobody wants to be upside down.

[Taylor (T)]

So you have to actually do that to be born.

[Kay (K)]

I'm so like, that's actually natural.

[Avery Woods]

So I get worried reading comments that people are actually part of society.

[Kay (K)]

I'm like, yes.

[Avery Woods]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. You have a job. Okay. What are some. What are some self care rituals you're doing right now? Take care of yourself in third trimester.

[Kay (K)]

I'm really, I'm focusing a lot on my skin care routine.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, your skin looks fire.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you. It's my glow serum.

[Taylor (T)]

Oh my gosh. We should have brought you.

[Kay (K)]

I know, I should.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I'm a big skincare girly. I'll buy it.

[Taylor (T)]

I'll mail you.

[Kay (K)]

No, I can mail you one. I don't.

[Avery Woods]

I'll support you and buy it.

[Kay (K)]

I would love to just send you one, but no, it. That honestly has been the most. I feel like the biggest change in my skin over the last year. But that's. That's something I'm really focusing on now. I. I even have him doing it. I think his skin is starting to look a lot better. His was very dry. I don't think guys understand.

[Avery Woods]

No.

[Kay (K)]

When their skin is dry, he's like, I don't have acne. It's fine.

[Avery Woods]

My accutanes.

[Taylor (T)]

It's unfair.

[Avery Woods]

So. Okay. My husband took Accutane too, but it was for his back when he was a cough top back in the day because he was so sweaty and his outer carrier was rubbing. But so he's never had to worry about his face. Right. And he would always complain how long it would take me to get ready for bed. Because I'm like a million product type person and he's like washing his face with a bar of soap once a month. But now he has like all his skin care line. Yeah, he has.

[Kay (K)]

He's like, I'll use it if it's sitting on the counter. So we have like all these, like, that's everything. Bottles which he uses. I mean, I wouldn't.

[Taylor (T)]

Steps.

[Kay (K)]

It's. Yeah, it's not that many steps, but he has to have it all laid out or he will not remember.

[Taylor (T)]

No, I won't open the drawer.

[Avery Woods]

The difference of my husband's pore size is actually insane. I was like, you can never. I was like, I love you, but you can never stop doing this because it's. It's crazy.

[Kay (K)]

It's made a huge difference.

[Avery Woods]

Okay, what are you guys doing right now to prepare for baby bugs arrival?

[Taylor (T)]

He's nesting right now. So every day it's like CB2 or Creighton Barrels. You know, all those boxes coming in.

[Kay (K)]

Not even things.

[Taylor (T)]

She's like, I got a white vase to. For the. For the console.

[Kay (K)]

She had a vase in there?

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, like, okay, so that's what we're doing.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Is the nursery done? No, no, no.

[Kay (K)]

We just have that. We do that thing where we take the box of something new that we got and we go put it in the room and then we close the door.

[Avery Woods]

Yes.

[Taylor (T)]

On top of like 100 other boxes.

[Kay (K)]

Out of sight, out of mind.

[Avery Woods]

It becomes like a storage unit in there.

[Kay (K)]

Yes, it is. You can't. Like, it's not a safe environment for a pregnant woman to be in there, because I could fall. And so.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I feel that way about my house. My husband's like, you got to stop ordering stuff. We're not moved in yet. Like, you're just ordering all this decoration. Like, there's not even flooring house. Like, the. The construction guys are complaining because the amount of Amazon boxes I have in the garage, you know, what's. What's the vibe of the nursery? Like, what do we have a theme colors?

[Kay (K)]

We're doing like, very cottage core vintage vibe.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, that's my dream.

[Kay (K)]

So we have like the metal bed. We have. Have the sage green changing table dresser. We're doing like the sage green colors and pinks, like soft pinks and creams. I love. I'm excited.

[Taylor (T)]

I think butterflies and stuff.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, we're doing accents of butterflies and accents of bows. I don't want it to look like butterflies and bows, but just like little details. Like the knobs on the dresser are Going to be bows. And then we have, like, a little butterfly pillow that'll sit, like, in there, you know, just very subtle. But since we call her bug, like, butterflies and ladybugs are kind of. Kind of like our thing.

[Avery Woods]

No, I love it.

[Kay (K)]

That's. So that's what we're kind of going with.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. I love when it's, like, still a fun nursery. I know everyone's, like, into the beige lately. That's just not. Never been myself. Like, I have so much color in my new home, which I'm really excited about, but I love, like, the little accents that still make it a fun kids room. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

I was definitely in my beige era for a couple years, and.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, weren't we all?

[Kay (K)]

I feel, like, honest, like, especially with my clothes and, And, I mean, I didn't have to think about what colors I'd want and things, because I would just buy the beige stuff or the cream or the tan. It was just. It made it very simple, and it. It. It made it to where I didn't have, like, decision fatigue. I didn't have to think about it. I was like, oh, I just want it neutral. Just buy neutral. It'll all go together.

[Avery Woods]

Y.

[Kay (K)]

But as Ellie has gotten older, really not even, like, like, really, when she was born, I was like, I want to put her in all these cute little patterns. And I don't know if that is what's kind of gotten me out of the beige thing, but I feel like I, I. I mean, I have, like, like, patterns on my nails now. I'm doing all the colors, and I'm just. I'm loving the color thing right now.

[Avery Woods]

And the baby shower was so pretty and so colorful and gorgeous. Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

How has Taylor been as a pregnancy partner?

[Taylor (T)]

Rolling your eyes.

[Kay (K)]

Oh, my God. I was gonna say incredible.

[Avery Woods]

No, like, no, I'm waiting for the water. Word.

[Kay (K)]

No. Incredible. No. He's been like, you could not ask for better. Like, honestly, I feel like, like, that, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, you act like it's your first pregnancy. With my last, but it was, like, the first pregnancy where I felt appreciated and loved and. And he's just so. He. He carries on. Like, he does so much for me, knowing that I'm the one that has to carry the baby, but it's our baby. Does that make sense?

[Avery Woods]

Totally.

[Kay (K)]

So he's not just like, oh, you're pregnant, and like, I'll deal with it later. Like, he. He carries a lot of the load, and that makes it a lot easier.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, I Know, it can be hard, too, when your parents, especially expecting another baby. Baby. With such a young baby at home. To prioritize your relationship, what do you guys do? To prioritize your relationship? Do you have set date nights? Like, what do you guys do to focus on you?

[Kay (K)]

I mean, great question. I mean, we set. I mean, we go on trips, like, this trip together.

[Taylor (T)]

We kind of try to consider everything where it's just me and K. A date. Like, even if it's just like, Ellie's down for a nap and it's just us hanging out. Like. Like when we were in the airport yesterday, we were like, this is a date. Let's go eat McDonald's. You know what I mean? So it's like any alone time, we just value.

[Kay (K)]

We really romanticize any time. Time together we get. Like, it could literally be us going downstairs and heating up food together. After we put Ellie down and, like.

[Taylor (T)]

Go to bed at the same time, and we, like, you know, eat at the same time. Even if we're like, I'm working and she's working on something else. We try to, like, take those breaks and, like.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, we've always been that annoying couple that, like, we don't go to bed without each other. Like, I've never gone to bed without Taylor. I think that's. It might. Actually, that might be a little weird. But we don't. We.

[Avery Woods]

No, no. My husband and I don't either.

[Kay (K)]

Is it time for bed? Bed? And he's like, yeah, give me five minutes. I'm gonna finish whatever he's doing and I'll wait on him. And then we go to bed together. We wake up together. I mean, we just. We do a lot together. Even going to the grocery store. Like, I feel like doing all of that kind of, like, helps where you feel like you're having, like, those romance. Like you're still doing things together as a team, you know?

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Do you. Because you guys obviously work together. So what do you do individually, maybe for yourselves if you're not together? Or do you feel like you kind of go crazy sometimes when you. When you're together 24 7?

[Taylor (T)]

I feel like we have our own times. Like, especially at night, like when I'm editing. Like you were saying you edit at night. Like, I. But I edit on the computer.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

And so I go to the office and I edit. And I might play some games with some friends afterwards, and I'll play true crime. True crime or something, and then we kind of meet back up. So. Or, you know, sometimes we'll do things together and like watch a movie. But that's kind of our. That's kind of our time.

[Kay (K)]

I'll get my nails done with a friend or with Kinsley and like. Yeah, you know, we definitely have like our own things, but we also have like a very strict 9:30-6 work schedule during the. During Monday through Friday. And then the rest of the time, if it's not in those time periods, other than the editing at night, which that only takes you like an hour. But other than those periods, like, we're not working, we're focusing on our family, doing things together, doing things with our children.

[Taylor (T)]

Really blessed with Ellie, we put her down at least like 7 and she doesn't wake up till like 7:30.

[Avery Woods]

Oh.

[Kay (K)]

Oh, yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Champion. Did you sleep train her?

[Kay (K)]

We, we did the take.

[Taylor (T)]

Like, she just immediately caught on. I mean, like, immediately she was like, okay, I'll follow this. Like, that's.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, period. It was great.

[Taylor (T)]

It's really weird.

[Avery Woods]

That's going to be so nice with the same. Yeah. Taking care of babies is my favorite. And that was because she's a former Nikki nurse.

[Kay (K)]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

And so I just couldn't do the cry it out. It just wasn't for me. And like hard working in the PICU too. I just. Crying babies is very triggering to me. And so I needed a solution that would help make sure my babies are on a good schedule without listening to them cry. And she is gifted at what she does.

[Kay (K)]

I. I truly thought like, we, you know, we get all that advice and unsolicited advice in our DMs and people are like, oh, do taking care of babies. And like we get all these courses and I'm. I always thought like that that's a scam. Like, I'm not paying $200 for that. I am a huge believer in taking care of babies.

[Taylor (T)]

We always shout her out now whenever.

[Kay (K)]

I always shout out because it truly, it changed our life. Like eight months prior to doing that, at eight months, nine months old, whatever it was we started, I was like, we're not sleeping.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

It was hard.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. And it. I remember working my 12 and a half hour shifts and I was like, I need to sleep. Like, I, I was exclusively breastfeeding and I was like, I need to be able to sleep. And she, she saved my life. Thank you. Taking care of babies. We love you.

[Kay (K)]

Yes. We love you.

[Avery Woods]

Do we have plans for expanding our family after baby bug or do we think this is it?

[Taylor (T)]

I think we're gonna take a small break. So we want to try for a boy because we're three girls but we don't also push into it with a girl. Yeah, yeah. We'd be okay either way. But I think like try one more time. See if you get a boy kind of thing is like the idea. But at the same time we're like, we kind of want a career focus because you know, once adding that third kid, I mean not makes it really hard or fortune. You know what I mean? And so. But third, like little third baby.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

Because he's very self sufficient.

[Kay (K)]

He's not having to be bathed at night.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah. So maybe eventually. But I think a break.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

In, in age.

[Kay (K)]

Maybe just maybe a short break because I am in my 30s now and I don't.

[Taylor (T)]

That's. That's scary too.

[Kay (K)]

And with all my health problems, I kind of like I said I'm in a season. I want to like get it done. Yeah. So I can focus on my health. So I, it depends on the day. I think we go back and forth on it. Some days we're like, let's just be done. And then other days we're like maybe take a break and then we'll do. And then other days it's like, let's just wait a year and then we'll do it again. It's just really, it could go either way.

[Avery Woods]

And also like you said, you just got your lupus diagnosis, you weren't able to treat it. So maybe, you know, try that, see how it works for you and see how you feel.

[Taylor (T)]

I'd love to see healthy K, like just go off in the content world because I can only imagine how like how good you would be at that. Like fully healthy.

[Kay (K)]

I feel like people get annoyed during my not pregnant phase when I, I'm always crying about how bad I feel, but I'm like, that's just my life right now. Like that's just what we have to share. And it's. I'm dreading going back to that cuz I feel like it's probably going to end up being that. But I would like you said, like I would love to be able to just see myself like healthy and not feel like crap all the time.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. I'm excited for you.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. We like to end our show with a little rapid fire. You ready?

[Kay (K)]

Oh gosh. Okay.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. Who's the funnier one? One K. Oh, what?

[Taylor (T)]

K's so funny. I, I giggle.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, I think she's hilarious.

[Kay (K)]

I'm funny.

[Avery Woods]

Yes. I think you're so funny.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you.

[Avery Woods]

You're Very Tay. You're very reserved off camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're very, like, quiet and reserved, and I expected you to be much more, like, bubbly, upbeat. I mean, but you're very K. Kind.

[Taylor (T)]

Of opens me up. You know what I mean? Like, K's just funny.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. I also think the difference is that in your content, you're genuinely excited to see her reaction, and so it's a little bit different. And so I just love how natural that is for you because that does bring out your fun side.

[Kay (K)]

Y. I think you're funny, but maybe it's just, like, behind closed, like, doors, like, with me. Like, he says the funniest things all the time, but I don't know. Maybe I'm the only one that gets to see it.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Okay, who's the stricter parent? Parent.

[Kay (K)]

Tay or me? Sorry.

[Taylor (T)]

Oh, wow.

[Kay (K)]

Hey.

[Taylor (T)]

Me. I actually. So this. I don't know if it would be the same with boys. I know this is supposed to be rapid fire. I apologize.

[Avery Woods]

No, it's fine.

[Taylor (T)]

I don't know if this would be the same with boys, but for girls, I feel like K has to be the one to parent, because if. If they grew up thinking, like, me as the dad, like, I'm like, they're gonna think the man needs to parent them, and they're gonna grow up and try to get a husband that's trying to, like, rule them and parent them. And so, like, if we have an issue, we come together as a team. But Kay leaves needs because. You know what I mean? It's, like, different other than a father.

[Kay (K)]

Especially on, like, touch, like, you know, like, girly topics or just in general.

[Taylor (T)]

I don't want to. I don't want our daughters to grow up thinking, like, they need a man to tell them what to do and what not to do. You know what I mean?

[Avery Woods]

Like, an assertive authority. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Scott's running, doing a round of applause over there. Yeah, we love that. Yeah, I totally agree.

[Taylor (T)]

It becomes stricter in that.

[Kay (K)]

But also, I think I am more. I'm a little bit more of a helicopter mom. Like, I'm also always scared of everything. I hear, like, all these scary stories online, and I'm like, I just hover, and I'm. I'm scared of, like, them going on walks. Like, just all the things I'm like, but what if somebody robs you? Like, I. I have a lot more anxiety, and I think because of that, I tend to be more strict about things, whereas he's a little bit more like, she's fine. She's gonna be good, you know?

[Avery Woods]

No, I'm the same because I worked in the a level one trauma.

[Kay (K)]

You see things.

[Avery Woods]

So. Yeah. My husband's like, you need a calmed down.

[Kay (K)]

It's all my true crime. I watch, you know?

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah, that's probably flaring your anxiety.

[Kay (K)]

It is 100. It is.

[Taylor (T)]

She's like, okay, true crime's over. Let me go to the news now.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, we watch the news. No, that's terrible. Don't do that.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah. See, that also will trigger you. Okay, who's more romantic?

[Kay (K)]

Tay?

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah. I love the gift giving and stuff.

[Avery Woods]

I love it. I was gonna say. Okay, who is more likely to want a night out versus a night in?

[Taylor (T)]

I'm. I'm FOMO for the night out. Like, I really. Anytime anyone invites me to do anything, I'm like, we have to do it. What do you mean? Like, I have to experience that.

[Kay (K)]

He wants to say yes to everything we ever get offered, and I'm the one that's always, like, fighting it, and I'm like, I don't want to do that. I don't want. I. I would be fine staying at home every single night in my pajamas. Like, I don't like going out at all.

[Avery Woods]

That's me. It's actually really rough in this industry because when I go to certain events, I'm like, have to get out of my pajamas.

[Kay (K)]

Read it.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Kay (K)]

But then I get there, and I'm like, I'm so glad I did this.

[Avery Woods]

Yes.

[Kay (K)]

It was so fun. I'm. I'm glad that we, like, went to the red carpet event, you know, that was good. It's fun. But no, typically, I. I'm definitely a.

[Taylor (T)]

So funny because she's the extrovert but doesn't want to go out, and I'm more reserved and quiet, but I want to be out. And isn't that so weird?

[Kay (K)]

It is weird.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. See, that's why opposites attract. All right, well, I don't even need to ask this question. It just says, who's the bigger crier during children's milestones?

[Taylor (T)]

Oh, gosh. It's gotta be me.

[Kay (K)]

I'm guilty.

[Avery Woods]

It's okay. It's just the mom emotion. It's.

[Kay (K)]

It is. It is. I don't know. I'm not gonna pause apologize for it, because that's just who I am.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah. I like, last night, I was just looking at my son and started crying. My husband's like, what is wrong with you? I was like, I don't know. He's just so big. Like, he's like, up to here on me. It's.

[Kay (K)]

I don't think people understand too, that when you cry, it's not because you're sad all the time. Like, I cry because of every emotion. Like, I could be excited and happy and cry about it. Like, I just cry like I'm a crier and.

[Taylor (T)]

And like, I was looking overstuffed and Taco Bell, oh, my gosh.

[Kay (K)]

It's. It's literally spilled out on me. I cried from that. Like, how I crashed out. Like, that was a whole thing.

[Avery Woods]

Like, sad cry.

[Kay (K)]

Like, that was a bad cry. You know, Like. Like, go back to the drive thru. That's all I wanted. No, but people are like, why are you crying? Like, because she smiled for the first time. I'm like, because it was so like.

[Avery Woods]

Also, most moms do. They're just being an or.

[Kay (K)]

They're not a mob and they don't understand.

[Avery Woods]

Totally. Okay. I actually want to add one. What's your Taco Bell order? Because I love Taco Bell.

[Kay (K)]

Oh, my gosh. Mine's so boring.

[Taylor (T)]

Mine isn't. Mine. Well, it is kind of this. The grilled cheese steak burrito.

[Avery Woods]

I do the grilled cheese burrito, but I've never had the steak one.

[Kay (K)]

What do you get in this?

[Avery Woods]

The regular one is just beef.

[Taylor (T)]

Oh, you gotta get with steak.

[Avery Woods]

It's really. Okay.

[Kay (K)]

I need to try the beef one because I don't like the steak. It's too chewy. But I get. I just get a bean burrito so good with extra onions, extra cheese, extra red sauce, and that's it.

[Taylor (T)]

And then she explains when it comes. So stuff that they can't roll it.

[Kay (K)]

No, but this is the problem. It's like, you work at Taco Bell and you worked at Taco Bell. You should know this. Like, shouldn't they know how to properly roll a burrit burrito? It should not be falling out because you put extra red sauce in there. That means you put too much bean in there. And I didn't ask for extra bean. Ask for extra red sauce. There's a difference.

[Avery Woods]

Talk about you taking notes.

[Kay (K)]

Like, stuff it, roll it and stuff. Like, it shouldn't be falling in.

[Avery Woods]

My pregnant woman needs her burrito properly wrapped. Yes, but you worked at Taco Bell.

[Taylor (T)]

I did.

[Avery Woods]

Iconic, yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor (T)]

I think I'd be tired of it. But I was like, I doubled down. I was like, I need Taco Bell like, every day.

[Kay (K)]

No, I worked at Chili's, dude.

[Avery Woods]

I work with Chili's all the time. I'm like, do you know how it feels to live my dream to get paid to eat a triple dipper and drink the mark of the bunny's contact?

[Kay (K)]

I used to work. I was. I was literally one of the, like, lead waitresses during the day shift.

[Taylor (T)]

Were you a key holder?

[Kay (K)]

I was almost a key holder, so it was.

[Avery Woods]

The key holder is Sally's high security clearance at Chili's. Don't even get her started.

[Kay (K)]

The Monday through Friday day crew, which. That was the hard shift to get because you had, like, five girls. There's five of us. And everybody wanted that shift, but nobody could get that shift because we worked there for years.

[Taylor (T)]

That movie waiting or something. Waiter, Wait.

[Kay (K)]

We should have had a reality show about our whole, like, staff at Chili's.

[Avery Woods]

The Chili's reality show.

[Kay (K)]

That was so epic. Like, those were the best days.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Would you guys ever do reality tv?

[Taylor (T)]

It's funny, because that topic comes up.

[Kay (K)]

All the time we've been offered, and I just. I don't know, because I feel like they can change what. What you say, and I don't like that.

[Avery Woods]

I was gonna say it scares me.

[Taylor (T)]

The only thing you gain is, like, so hard to popularity. But I'm like. I'm already. I already have that.

[Kay (K)]

I don't really.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah, what would I gain?

[Kay (K)]

This. Except I'm getting my, like, whole personality probably, like, torn apart. Like, people are gonna nitpick and, like, change the way I say things. I don't know. It just doesn't sound appealing to me at all.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Also, knowing people in reality tv, the way that they tell me how things are covered. Cut. To be able to have. Yeah, see, that scares me. And I'm like, I'm already so sensitive that I can't even read comments. I can't even imagine.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, no, I'm too sensitive.

[Taylor (T)]

I would work our way into, like, a producer role, and we'll be like, we'll be on there, but we're also gonna.

[Kay (K)]

Yeah, someone else is gonna be the villain. If I had rights to determine, like, how it was portray, how I was portrayed, then I would probably be for it. It could be fun.

[Avery Woods]

Totally. Well, thank you guys so much for coming. This was such a joy. And I think you guys are genuinely so sweet, and. And I'm really excited for you to expand and see Baby Bug.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you for having us work. It's been so exciting.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yay. Where can people find you guys, K.

[Kay (K)]

And Tay, on every single platform.

[Taylor (T)]

Yeah. We like Instagram because you know the stories and you can put a little extra content there. So we always try to push people to Instagram if you're following anywhere.

[Avery Woods]

Sure. I love Instagram because it feels like my Safe app. Yes, TikTok scares me, but I do love Instagram.

[Kay (K)]

Yes, he's his, he has the whole FYP on TikTok and I, I have Instagram and it's vastly different. Like, vastly, totally different.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, there's some weird stuff on Instagram.

[Kay (K)]

Though that comes up. It can, it can get weird.

[Avery Woods]

Some of the Explore page scares me. All right, well make sure you guys go follow K and Tay and thank you guys so much for being here.

[Kay (K)]

Thank you so much.

[Avery Woods]

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