
Avery catches Love Island star Liv Walker in the middle of Unwell Vegas. The two girls chit chat overlooking the infamous Strip, recapping a wild weekend of live shows, pool parties, and the mountain of swag waiting in their hotel rooms. It’s giving girls’ trip energy with a side of Carbone sauce and A-list celebrities.
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Hi.
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How are you?
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Good. How are you?
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Good. I. Well, everyone's obsessed with you here. I'm obsessed with you.
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That's. With you.
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That's crazy.
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No.
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You are so hot. Jewelry, face card.
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This is all Amazon and electric pigs. Yes.
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You know what's funny? Last night, oh, you weren't there, but at the live show, I had my, like, like this little, you know that Bottega clutch? That, like, woven one that's maroon? Love those. Everyone's like, I love your bot. I'm like, thank you. It's $46 on Amazon when I need them. Yeah.
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I'll give it to you. I love it.
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It looks. I was just showing my producer Unwell. I was like, this. You like my Bottega? She's like, I love it. I said, thank you. It's from Amazon.
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It likes BO BGA with, like, another E at the end.
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Yeah. But, like, you know when all these people that are so into fashion stop you and compliment your bag? And I'm like, in my head, this is from Amazon.
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If only they knew I can't wear, like, expensive jewelry all the time because I lose it.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, this can't happen. Like, I'll be like, hey, rings are flying everywhere. And I'm like, great. So I'm just going to get the Amazon one.
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Also, I, like, beat everything up. Like, I. I'm too rough.
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I'm, like, opening packages with my nails.
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Yeah, that's me.
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Yeah, that's same people.
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Okay, well, you're in Vegas with Unwell.
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Yes.
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How's it been?
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Oh, my God, like, amazing. I feel like since checking in, I was like, I didn't know what to expect. I knew it was always, like, a massive production, and they do it so well. But from, like, everything being on the bed to, like, the live show to, like, the pool party, it's so full on, but in, like, the best way. It's like, I think it's, like, a good spring break.
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Yes. And they just spoil you. Like, there's so much to do.
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They were so generous.
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I know.
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Like, the carbonar. Like, what is that? Like.
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Thank you. I had people message me when I was posting on Instagram all this swag on the bed, and they were like, why is spaghetti sauce there? And I said, well, Carbone is in Vegas, Drake's favorite spot. Like, everyone loves it.
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And who doesn't love Carbone? Source.
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Also, like, I will be taking that home.
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You're taking everything on the bed.
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You're insane if you don't think I'm putting that sauce in my bag and flying home.
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I'm, like, walking out with the white claws box on my shoulder.
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Yeah. As you should. You were in on the live show last night on stage. How was it?
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Oh, my God, Amazing. The crowd was crazy.
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You did amazing. Like, you were such a natural. I would have been. My pants. I'm not good with big crowds like that.
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Really?
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Yeah. But you did such a good job.
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Thank you so much. I feel like it's going out that everyone turns into, like, one dot, and I'm just like, oh, everything's happening. I'm like, da, da, da, da. Okay, time's up.
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And all the lights and everything on.
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You can't see anything. But it was, like, so well done and had so much fun.
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Well, we have a whole other day today where we're pretty much doing the same thing, but what's been your favorite part of Vegas so far?
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Oh, I think the live show, for sure.
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Really?
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Just because I haven't done something like that. I. I mean, I did a similar thing straight off the villa, but, like, a live show to, like, that extreme and, like, with so many, like, big names and faces.
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Yeah.
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I feel like it can't top that. But we have. Today we have. Paris is playing.
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So Paris is doing the pool. Yeah. Another live show tonight.
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I can't wait. I just need to prep myself. I like it.
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The chain smokers are performing tonight at the club, right? Am I crazy? Am I making that up?
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Jazzy?
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No. Yeah. Chains.
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I love the chains Makers.
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Well, yes. You have to go. Come out then I will be there.
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Jumping F up.
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Yeah. I told my husband. I was like, that is a reason I would stay out is because they're so good.
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I want them at my wedding. I feel like they would be a great, like, end of performer.
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I feel like we could make that happen. Let's talk to them tonight.
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Yeah, like, I. I'm not getting married. We like p. I don't even have a brain, but I'm like, hey, so when I get married, can you perform?
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Yeah, you just pre book them. It's fine. Okay, so like 20. Like 20, 29, 20, 30. Yeah. So for people that don't know you from Love island, how would you describe yourself?
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Oh, my God. I was thinking about this and I was like, oh, I don't even know how to describe myself. I'm from Australia.
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Where in Australia?
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Sydney. Have you been?
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No, my husband lived there for a year, though.
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In Sydney?
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Yes, he lived in Sydney. He studied music at Hillsong. Wait, so when he graduated high school at 18, he. He was very religious at that time. His dad was a pastor and he wanted to study music. He's really good at guitar, and he was always the youth music leader in church growing up. And so he moved to Australia for a year and studied at Hillsong. And he was like, we literally just surfed all day and played guitar. And he said it's his favorite place in the world.
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He's.
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I've never been.
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You have to come.
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And he's always like, that's my dream destination to take you. But he hates flying and said it's the worst flight.
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It's like 15 hours.
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15. Crazy.
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But I feel like if you fly business in first class, which I've done like once.
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Yes.
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To a brand. There's like a bar.
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Oh, that'll get you through it.
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So I'm like. It's like you're moving like five steps.
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Yeah, yeah. So anyways, we'll make it happen then. I'll. I'll text you and get a list. Please have things to do, but. Okay. From Sydney?
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Yes, I'm from Sydney. I mean, I. Say it how it is, girl.
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Yeah. Your season was tea.
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I.
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Everything you did, I said, yep. And that's on period. Because I'm the same way.
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No, I just. I just like. I feel like it comes with the culture too, but I just, like, don't like stuff that's like sugar coated. I just like, tell me how it is. Say it straightforward. I feel like that's like a real friend.
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Yes, absolutely.
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To me, might not be that wrong, but yeah, say how it is. And I don't want to say I'm an influencer because, like, I don't even know what that means.
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Yeah.
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I'm just, like, living life, seeing different careers and seeing what I love. I love that.
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Do you think you say it how it is because of the way you're raised, or have you just always been like that naturally?
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I think a little bit of both. Like, I feel like I was raised that they weren't always, like, telling me I'm the best and everything like that. Like, my parents are very supportive, but they were also, like, constructive criticism.
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Sure.
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And then I. A lot of my friends, like, back home, like, they would be like, hey, you're my friend. We didn't like that you did this and vice versa. And I'm like, okay, you learn from it instead of it being like, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
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We're talking behind your back. But yeah, And I also think I mean this. Like, coddling as parents can be a little bit detrimental. And I'm not saying, like, don't love on your kids, but sometimes tough love is important, especially in this world.
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Yeah.
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Because, like, as I've learned as a parent, sending my kids to school, like, this is the first time that they're both in school full time, and they come, like, saying certain things, are doing certain things, and I'm like, okay, how did you learn that? Like, where is that coming from? So stuff kind of, like, gets out of your control. Yeah. So I feel like tough love is. Is good.
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Yeah. And I feel like when it's, like, implemented at, like, a young age correctly, I don't think anyone should, like, yeah, do it in the wrong way. But we live in a society where they're going to experience it at some point, and I feel like it's better to prepare them, especially from, like, a household perspective, so that when they're out there, they know how to manage it a bit more. But totally, I'm no mother.
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So. You know what? One day, maybe. Do you want kids?
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Yes.
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Okay. Period. Hot mom, milf.
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Like you.
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Oh, yeah. I've never looked better right now, you guys.
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You look great. Amazing. Glass.
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You're so sweet. No, I just bought these, so I thought I would hide my tired eyes. Okay. What were you doing before going on Love Island? Like, were you working? Were you in school?
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Like, what was your, like, a college student? I worked at, like, a bar, like a pub we have in Australia, which is like a tavern kind of here.
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Yeah.
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But I was just at college. I did communications, and I just, like, got this opportunity and I was like, it.
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Yeah.
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Might as well.
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Did they reach out to you?
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They reached out to me the year before. Okay. And I like went through the process at the start I was like, this is a scam. Like, this is a joke. Didn't really take it seriously. And then it just wasn't the right time. And then they reached out again and I was like, this is the once in a lifetime opportunity. Let's just see how it goes. And then I just ended up in Fiji. Wow.
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What was the casting process like?
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It's pretty long. They. It starts around January time and you like, meet with it if like a few talent managers and then you meet with like executives. And then like a lot of people get flown out to Fiji and not everyone's on the show, but then you meet with the producers there and I think they're just trying to see, like, can you hold a conversation? Can you get along? Yeah, stuff like that. But it is. And then, oh, there's a massive, like, I'm gonna say 800 questionnaire. You have to do a medical exam. So like that bits for them, but.
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Make sure you're safe on it island. Yeah, for a while.
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Yeah. And all healthy.
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When you got off the show were because you don't have your phones, obviously. So when you checked everything and saw how massive you blew up, what was your reaction?
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Oh, my God, it was so overwhelming. I remember I got my phone back at like 8pm that night and they were just like, here's your phone. Have a good night. And I, I didn't know how big the show was. Like, they were like, oh, the show did really well. Like, it did better than Bridgerton. But like, I was like, oh, I like Bridgerton. But I didn't realize like, how big Bridgerton was. And I was like, oh, okay. And then you meet with the psych and they're like, just to warn you. Like, the show did well. And I'm like, okay, like, great, they like us. But then I called my cousin first and I was like, hey, like, does the Internet hate me? Because I came off like just after this tweet challenge and she was like, no, I'm on.
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Love you.
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We're so proud. Called my parents. They're like, you did so well. And then I just turned my phone off, so I didn't even know. Oh, wow. The next day. But it was, it was crazy. Seeing everything, the fan edits, I think was just like, oh, my God.
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Oh, yeah. They're iconic too, because we were going through looking for like, tick tock sounds, dude. All the iconic lines that came from you and edits. It just are amazing. Thank you.
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I feel like the seat. All of us were just. And I think why maybe it did really well is all of us went in kind of like, what have we got to lose?
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Yeah.
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Not that it wasn't a big show before, but I don't think it was as to the scale. And everyone was like, we're just going to be ourselves. And a lot of the audience, like, could relate to that. But, yeah, there is some iconic sound.
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Yeah. I remember when you walked in because you came in on day two, right?
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Yeah, day two.
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Just looking like a snack. Were you like. Yeah, I own this. When you walked in, I was so nervous. Your confidence was insane.
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Oh, my God. Thank you. I was so nervous. So I knew I was. I met on. I believe they went in on the Sunday night, and I think I went in Monday morning, but I met, say, on the Saturday with the producer. And they were like, so you're gonna be a bombshell. You're going in a couple days. And I was like, okay. And then I just got a call, like the next morning, like 8:00am, like, hey, you're going in in an hour. And they sat me on the dock. Yeah. And I had no idea who was in there. I had no idea, like, if there was other bombshells. And they're like, okay, go and meet everyone. I'm gonna steal a man tonight. Go. It was like that quick. And I was like, well, shit, where do I walk around? Who do I talk to? But it was, like, so worthwhile. All the girls are, like, really welcoming and the guys too, so made it easy.
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Yeah, that's good. How much do you think, like, in your. Because I know a lot of people that are on reality tv and so they tell me about the cuts and, like, things that producers do say, whatever. What do you think, percentage wise, is actually shown in Love Island? Yeah. Versus recorded.
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I feel like in Love island because it's like every day there's a lot more shown as compared to, like, Love island beyond the villa, because it's like one episode a week. But there is a lot cut out to an extent. Like, we hit. Like I walked in, I was like, okay, I understand they're trying to make reality television. I've watched reality. No one wants to watch everyone makeup all the time. Like, they're going to exaggerate in some instant. But I would say, I don't want to say 60% cut out because it's like the whole conversation goes for long and all of us love to talk for hours.
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Yeah.
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So they're like, okay, we'll cut out section A and B. So I. How do you think they. How much would we cut out? I think beyond the villa, a lot was cut out.
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Really? Yeah. Okay.
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A lot.
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Tea. You know what, though? I hear that all the time because I have friends, like, on Secret Lives and Mormon wives and. And it's just cr. Oh, the best. So I can't wait to see them all today. I know. They're. They're so funny.
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And I'm watching them on Dance with the Stars.
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Killing it.
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Killing it. Whitney can do it well.
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She studied dance in college. She's, like, such a good dancer. Like, insanely.
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And Jen, I like. And when they're husbands and kids dressing for Disney night, I was like, I know.
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And Jen just had a baby. I said, how is she doing, dude? When I was postpartum, I was literally laying on the couch like a baby on my tits.
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She is so good. And she always looks like she's having so much fun.
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I know. I just. I just love, like, seeing moms thrive like that and just.
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And their kids are so cute.
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So cute.
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I'm like, oh, my God, I wish. I know my kids turn out like that.
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Would you ever do something like Dancing with the stars?
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100%.
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Can you dance?
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I used to dance.
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Oh.
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I get, like, frozen now.
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Oh, really?
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But, hey, I will start stretching now. If they were like, come on, next season.
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She's like, in the splits next week.
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Yeah. I'm like, hey, so is it special guest night? I'll, like, buy myself a ticket and be in the back, like, trying to do a split.
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Yeah. I can't even do a TikTok dance. There's no way in hell I'd be caught dead. Yeah. No. How do you shake your hips like that?
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Professional dance is always coming up with them. Can we have, like, an average person make the dance?
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And, like, Charlie d', Amelio, the way.
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She moves so good. Yeah, I remember that one. Like, back in the day, I was like, I don't know how your hips move like that.
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Yeah, I know.
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I'm trying. It's not working.
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There was a time where I was, like, trying to be hip and young and, like, keeping up with the cool kids and, like, doing those dances. And then I realized, you know what, Avery? It's just not for you.
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No, I don't. I don't think I'm a dancer one.
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Yeah.
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I tried to do this one, you know, by.
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Oh, yeah, the. I won.
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And everyone was like, Girl, you missed miserably. Okay. How. How do you do that?
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Like, the transitions are difficult too.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Okay, so you had multiple connections throughout the season. Yeah. What. Which connection would you say would be the strongest that you had that you felt the most confident in at that moment? Doesn't have to be now.
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I'm trying to think. I went through a lot of couples. You did, like a lot. I think I covered up with every guy.
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But you were never, I was never annoyed with you. Like I would have told you if I was like, girl, why are you doing this? Just to stay. But I feel like you were genuine.
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Yeah. I can't fake it. Like, yeah. Sometimes I tell myself like, come on. But I just can't. And I think like, I also, like, during that process, you kind of forget cameras are there. So I was just like, I don't want to waste their time. I don't want to waste my time, like not going to force something that's not going to happen. But I'm going to say my most genuine connection was probably with the girls, even though I didn't couple up with them.
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Oh, that's lovely.
B
But like every week I was like, who wants a card for next week? And then they'll like save her. She's our friend. Yes.
A
Oh, that's sweet though because I feel like if you are stuck all together cuz the guys and girls always like go off on their own. If it's weird, it's going to be weird.
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Oh yeah.
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If it's Caddy, it's going to be.
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And it's like tight knit from the start. Like I remember when I first walked in, it had literally been like a day and like after like walking around and the producers like they're being here for a day. But I sat with all the girls and they're like, me and my couple are really strong. And I was like, oh, okay. So I can't imagine what it would be like coming in like later.
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Yeah.
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And like trying to form a connection.
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No, it'd be so hard.
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So hard.
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Yeah.
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Because everyone's like friends. They're like, no, can't let her go.
A
Oh my God. Well, you. It's always like very glam life and they show a lot of very glamorous things. But what's something that people would. You wouldn't expect or that's not as glamorous being on the show.
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Oh, that you don't sleep for a long period of time or.
A
Really? Yeah.
B
There's no clocks. You have no idea what time it Is no clocks. No. It's vacation.
A
How do you know when to go to bed?
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You just go when you're told. I remember coming out of the villa, like, you would have to ask to go to the toilet. And I would, like, come out of the villa being like, can I go to the bathroom? And I'm like, I don't need to ask anyone. And then I, like, thought about it. I was like, 29 year olds asking to go to the toilet. It's really strange, but I feel like that's really odd. Or after challenges of, like, when you had slime.
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Oh, I was gonna ask about that. Why are they interviewing you when you're still covered in that?
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But we're, like, sitting outside for like an hour. So, like, the slime challenge would stick to us. And, like, when slime, like, hardens, it starts to hurt. And it was freezing that day. So cold. So we were always sitting outside waiting to go one by one. And then they ran out of hot water, which I never heard before, but they ran out of hot water. So we're freezing, no water. Just being told, like, a lot of people don't like us. This is what the Internet thinks of you. So that was like, so.
A
Oh, no. Well, you were told that.
B
Yeah, I was like, this challenge, like the mean tweet challenge.
A
Oh, the challenge. Okay, okay.
B
And when you don't know the outside world, you believe anything and you only.
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Know what you're going through and experiencing, but you don't know how it's being perceived on tv.
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And that's the first time we really saw whatever.
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Really?
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Thor? Yeah. And you're like, oh, God. You're like, oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay. Thanks, guys.
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Do you know what I constantly wonder when I watch Love Island? What? I'm like, how do they do their nails? How do they do their lashes? Like your maintenance stuff, like self tanning, like, how do you do all that stuff?
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So I self tan because. Yeah, Like, I had, like, a base tan. Lucky. Because Australia was warm, but nails were so hard. I was just doing stick ons in the end.
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Okay.
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Lashes. I only ever wear mascara, but the girls would do, like, strip lash. Yeah, they're called.
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Yeah.
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We have an off day on a Friday. Oh, yeah. So it's on a Friday. Is like when they do after sun, if you're on that, you do laundry, you do maintenance kind of things. But at that point, like, you really forget you're on tv.
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Yeah.
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So, like, I know, like, we would have fake nails at, like, when we're doing the recoupling and someone would say something and it go flying off. And we'd be like, oh, whatever, that'd be me.
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Because I do press ons. I'll just, like, randomly lose one of my stuff.
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My press ons were like, dying or. We had nail glue. I remember this. We had nail glue and we left the lid and it tipped on the vanity and we came back and we ripped it off and it ripped the vanity. And we're like, we didn't do that. And they're like, girl, you're on camera. Like it was you. And I was like, I need a nail tech.
A
Yeah, yeah, they should have one. They should have a hairdresser there.
B
Right?
A
The braids. What?
B
I know. I'm like, I want. And I have tapes.
A
I was gonna say extension. What about like a root touch up, please. Really? And the boys had a barber. I'm sorry, that's crazy.
B
I brought my own tape. And I was like, I'm just gonna have to teach one of you how to take my extensions if they start coming out. So that's why my extensions were always out because, like, I'm straightening my hair sections and they're like, zooming in. I'm like, you're doing me dirty.
A
I would. I would never be able. No, I would look atrocious.
B
It's. And sometimes you just want to wake up and not put makeup on or.
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Walk around, but you have to every single day.
B
Like, up to the glam room, I'm like, oh, my God. But, hey, it was not a bad life. The glam room was beautiful.
A
Yeah.
B
I was walking around a pool in Fiji.
A
Yeah.
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Eating whatever I want. So.
A
Yeah. Also everyone looks so hot and is, like, constantly eating. I said, couldn't be me.
B
Oh, we would eat all the time. I was trying to fill in time.
A
Yeah, I was. So. I feel you. Were you working out?
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No, There was a gym, but, like, no. Yeah, we did one workout. I think I ran around the place, like, once. I was like, yeah, no more for me.
A
You're like, hey, cameras, can you just make sure you got me working out really quick because it's never going to happen.
B
Like, should we chat that. Should we sit down and chat?
A
Wait, I heard something. Like, you're not allowed to go in the pool or something. Is that true? Yes.
B
Everyone else, why you can't go to the pool? You kind of mice. So, like, on off days, we were really naughty and, like, we'd jump in the pool and be like, so. And the producers were like, no, like, come running in. Or we'd Go like the off camera bathroom. There's like one. And we'd lock ourselves in there and they're like banging.
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I'm obsessed.
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Just they wanted to capture it.
A
But like, that sounds like me trying to go to the bathroom away from my kids.
B
Yes.
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Like, there's like little hands and they're like, mommy. And I'm like, let me pee in peace for five seconds.
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That was them. They're like, we'll get the key. I'm like, get it. Because by the time you come back, I'm done. The Comeback.
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B
100.
A
Really?
B
Yeah. As much as like I feel like this past Love island show I did, it was like a bit different to like the Love island before and like I just really saw like a different aspect of reality. I love being on television. I love like opening my life.
A
Yeah.
B
To everyone and I feel like why not? I said why not to Love island and it got me here. So.
A
Exactly. I was gonna say if you weren't on reality TV and didn't have this massive growth on social media, what do you think you'd be doing right now?
B
If I wasn't on tv?
A
Yeah. Like if you didn't do influencing social media, what do you think your career would be?
B
I feel like I'd be doing marketing. Like I have a degree in communications so I do something like that.
A
Educated queen.
B
Yeah, thanks. I feel like communications though. Everyone does.
A
No, you know what education is. Education.
B
Exactly.
A
No one can take that away from you no matter what you study.
B
But I like, I love the business side of it. Yeah. I love seeing like how brands like their way of like marketing. Like TA for example.
A
Oh yeah.
B
Like I love Maureen and I love.
A
How she does love Maureen.
B
She is so talented.
A
She is the most supportive person of my husband and I because she knows like our, about our past careers and stuff and she just is a big supporter of first responders and so she's just incredible.
B
Like, yeah, I love her.
A
The most incredible person.
B
I love seeing like everything she does and like how they do their brand trips. So yeah, I gotta do something like that.
A
It's insane when you don't know about social media and then you kind of get thrown in because people don't realize the business aspect to it. Oh my God, there is so much behind the scenes and people can talk all the that they want. But I'm like, you don't understand. This is a multi billion dollar business and there's so much that goes into it and marketing is so important.
B
Yeah. I didn't like personally looking at influencers before the show and stuff. I was like, great life. Yeah, like awesome. Like how hard can it be? And like, look, it's not the hardest job. I definitely think I don't want to be that person who's like, oh my God, this is so hard. Yeah. But there is like a big aspect of business creativity, like time and effort has to go into it. And I haven't seen like, I didn't know about that till I was in it and like seeing other people.
A
Yeah.
B
Like I don't know if you know a quiet style like Bridget. I love her. Yes. Like they both of the sisters work so hard.
A
Oh yeah.
B
Like they're going from like 6:00am earlier to like. Yeah, well 10:00pm at night.
A
And Danielle worked in corporate and then built her social media career.
B
Like, and so impressive.
A
Just I love them so much. I was in the Hamptons with Danielle or with Bridget Summer of 2023 I think when I went to the Hamptons, I don't remember. But the nicest humans, like so nice. Obsessed with them work so hard and the quality of their content is so fire.
B
And they're so, like. I remember I went on a trip with them and they were so generous with advice.
A
Yes.
B
And, like, this is how you edit. Use this app. Try this. And I'm like, like, some people in.
A
The field could be like, gatekeeping always.
B
I'm like, we're so different.
A
I never understand that.
B
Like, I'm not. Maybe if you started seeing 12 videos and I'm like, literally brushing my hair with the same comb.
A
Yeah. Well, here's my thing. I think people in this industry automatically think if you try to help someone else and they grow, that will lessen your success. There is room for everybody on social media 100.
B
Like, you're there for a reason.
A
Yes.
B
You didn't know each other before. Yeah.
A
And just because you're doing well, it doesn't mean I can't do well as well. So I. I feel like that's one of my. Yeah, that's one of my favorite things to do on, like, brand trips or things like this is talking to people that do the same job as me. Because we always bounce back ideas or tell each other, like, I'll share something. Like, I've never heard of that, or vice versa. But you have to help each other.
B
And it's so good, like, learning, like, being so new in this space. I love, like, learning from people that have been in it for a while.
A
Yeah.
B
And, like, even they talk about, like, highs and lows and they're like, wait it out. Like, you're fine.
A
Yes. It's not that bad because it's scary when you. When you're like, when you have, like, a day of engagement, you're like, oh, my career is over.
B
Yeah. I'm like, okay. And then. So anyone hiring? Yeah.
A
And then the next day you're like, okay, I'm gonna be fine. But there is a lot of that.
B
Ebbs and flows, especially with, like, trends and stuff. That's why, like, I'm trying to build my brand, like, outside of Love Island. Like, I'm very appreciative of, like, remember where you came from.
A
Yes.
B
But I'm also not into. Now that there's more seasons, with more seasons, there's more people with more people, more success. So it's great to, like, meet people and say, like, how did you pull away from.
A
Yeah.
B
This.
A
Speaking of building your brand and growing your business, you moved to la.
B
Yes.
A
How soon after leaving the villa did you move to la?
B
I've only moved to LA quite recently.
A
Oh, really?
B
Okay. Yeah. So last year after the show, we were like traveling for like.
A
Yeah, you're two every four days.
B
Which was so amazing. So grateful. And then we filmed the new show in la, so I moved out there for then and then I've just been there ever since.
A
I'm curious, coming from Australia, how you like it?
B
I like the weather.
A
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
B
And I live in Manhattan now, so it's like by the beach.
A
Yeah.
B
So it's like more out of town of la, but I like it.
A
Manhattan is the place to be. I really love it.
B
I love New York.
A
Really.
B
Okay.
A
I could see you in New York.
B
But I just, I heard everyone leaves in the summer.
A
Hamptons, they go to the Hamptons.
B
So I'm like, why am I getting out? And I don't grow up in snow. So I'm like, I'm living in a place for snow.
A
Yeah, it's beautiful. But like I was just there. I actually got back from New York Thursday night at 10pm and then flew. I went. Yeah. Because I went home, back to LA to my kids. And then I woke up the next morning and spent the morning with them and then flew to Vegas at 10. So I'm very tired. But I was gonna say it's not even barely fall there and I was shivering like such a California girl. It is so cold there.
B
But I love how everyone just gets up and goes.
A
They get up and go. I love that everyone is so motivated. They're always busy and they know how to have a good time and get a drink at the end of the day. But like they're go, go. Yeah, but that's like Bridget and Danielle like this. That's where they come. Yeah. But it is true. Everyone does leave to the Hamptons, which is beautiful. It's so beautiful. Yeah.
B
Maybe I need to find a friend.
A
Have you been to the Hamptons?
B
Yes. I went with Revolt. Oh, okay.
A
Amazing.
B
The weekend. And I was like, this is stunning.
A
You literally could spend a whole summer there. Like I spent two full weeks there because I did back to back brand trips. And I was like, I want to take my kids here.
B
It is so like the houses.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, everyone's so friendly.
A
The little shops.
B
I was like, yeah, I could live there.
A
I know, I know.
B
Yeah.
A
But I. I love la, but I don't like the city, so. We also live outside the city.
B
Yeah.
A
Like just for schools and stuff. But I also just the traffic, I can't do it. Oh my God, the traffic's so crazy.
B
Drives so fast. Yeah.
A
Everyone drives Fast, crazy on their phone.
B
I'm like, wow.
A
Constantly just like this.
B
Like, we have, like, mobile, like, phone cameras in Australia, so, like, you couldn't be like that.
A
Wait, really?
B
Yeah. Like, I remember I was in this Uber once and the guy was like, full on, like, taking photos of the sunset. I was like, wow. Oh, this other time, I nearly got in a. Not actually a punch up, but I was like, what the hell is going on? When I first came to America, he started turning on a red. I was like, whoa, is that not.
A
A thing in Australia?
B
No red.
A
Stop. You guys drive on opposite. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
B
And I was like, buddy, you might want to take your life, but, like, I. I am not like, what are you doing? And he was looking at me funny and I'm like, what? Like, where I come from, red is stop, green is go. I feel like in America, sometimes it's like yellow. Like, it's like, we're coming to a stop. Yellow is like, race the person next to you.
A
Yeah, no, they don't. They don't care. Like, we were literally. I was stopped at a red the other day, and this is this sports car next to me, like a Porsche. Just, like, looked both ways and just went straight through the red. Like, people just don't care in la.
B
No, it's also, hey, sometimes you get that quicker. So I'm like, She's like, defending them.
A
Well, if you're there on time, I.
B
Just sit in the back.
A
No, it's. People just have, like, don't give a energy in la. And they're also very powerful rich people.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah.
B
That 405, though.
A
Oh, my God.
B
Takes me four hours and five minutes.
A
I'm like, do you. Do you drive?
B
No, I drive in Australia, not America. I. I don't. I wouldn't trust myself.
A
No, I couldn't. Anytime I go overseas, I. I'm like, I could never rent a car, drive a car.
B
I feel like you go to Australia because I feel like you're chill, but I can't imagine driving from, like, Manhattan to West Hollywood myself. I'd, like, I can do it, but, like, my conscience is like, let's save the planet and stay off the road.
A
I'm dead. Have you made friends in L. A?
B
Yeah, I feel like being, like, at events.
A
Yeah.
B
I, like, met people and then met friends through them.
A
But yeah, also be on social media. Like, when you get mutual people and then you realize you live in the same place, it's so much easier.
B
I just met Chelsea from selling Sunset. I live in Manhattan. Oh, like, perfect.
A
Yeah. I'm obsessed with her.
B
She's so funny.
A
She's so funny and honest. Yesterday, like, what is that?
B
Like, oh, in stitches is like hysteric.
A
Oh, I'm gonna use that in stitches.
B
Yeah.
A
I really like that.
B
Yeah. She's so funny.
A
She's so hot. Hilarious. Such a good mom. And she does not give a. You guys have very similar energy.
B
I need to watch her on selling Sunset.
A
Oh, you haven't seen her.
B
I seen, like, the early seasons.
A
Like, she's tea.
B
She's tea.
A
She's tea.
B
Yeah. I was hearing about. She just comes in and says it.
A
She's. She's like, you.
B
Okay. I love her.
A
Very similar vibes.
B
I'm gonna watch on the flight home.
A
Yeah, you're gonna love it. Also, her boobs. Crazy. I mean, so perk. Unreal. Yeah, unreal.
B
Well, this black dress. Yesterday, I was like.
A
I know. I. I was watching her on stage. I was always all I was looking at.
B
I feel like everyone was her. I was like, yeah, she's so hot.
A
Okay. What. What's a part of being an influencer that would surprise you? Oh, that you didn't expect before you started social media?
B
I didn't expect one. Like, the money. That sounds horrible to say, but, like, I really.
A
No, it's so true. No. I came from being a nurse girl. When I sat with my management, I said, I'm sorry, how much am I making for doing that video?
B
That it was like, yeah, I went from working, like, a bad job, and I was like, 200 a week. I was like, yes. I'm like, guys, drinks on me this week. And then I say, like, I did a random. And I was like, oh, companies have this much money.
A
I know. Isn't it insane?
B
That was definitely a struggle. Another one would be how hard, like, the creativity. Because it's like, it is a niche market and to stay with the trends, but, like, how to do the trend in your own way.
A
Yeah.
B
And I feel like how to, like, keep people engaged. And I, like, try to be myself the entire way. Yeah, you are. And, like, I really. Sometimes I'm like, put more energy or, like, get into it.
A
I think the consistency, too, is really difficult. And again, like, coming from my career, I always say, I'll never complain about what I do for work. It's ridiculous. But I think people don't understand that if you allow it to be, it can be a 247 job.
B
Yeah.
A
And also, you. The algorithm really caters to consistency. And I remember when I was first girl, like, My first two years on Tick Tock, when I first started growing for two years straight, I did not miss a single day. I would post minimum three videos a.
B
Day on TikTok when I need this.
A
Advice, like, oh yeah. So Tick Tock really caters to consistency and how many times you post a day. Yeah. So I think it's a little bit different now. Like I was told by my Tick Tock rep, I like go into like a whole let's grow and social media spiel. But hashtags don't matter anymore on TikTok. That the big one. So the new AI system picks up by word of mouth and like what you're showing and whatever words are on the screen. So Tik Tok doesn't really cater to hashtags. Yeah. And then when I first started growing, which was like, I don't know, I did social media for like, honestly eight years solid before I really started making money from it. But when Tick Tock was first growing in like 2019, 2020, it was like three to four videos a day. Everyone, everyone was just posting because it was so easy to grow back then.
B
Yeah.
A
Like the Charlie D' Amelios where you can just have like 100 million followers.
B
I always get stuck with like, do people want to say that? Do they?
A
Yes, they do.
B
What I get in my head, no.
A
One thing about social media is just post it like they want it. They're following you for you. They don't get.
B
So no matter what it is, they.
A
Don'T care what you share. They just want to see you and see.
B
Okay, that's okay. Good advice.
A
And I feel like the more real, the better people like, like the raw.
B
Funny shit that isn't so, like, cut, edited, preppy.
A
Yeah, okay. Yeah. I feel like that's why celebrities are kind of going like the social media route is because that's where the money is at now. Like it used to be TV and commercials for advertisement and now the money is going to brands for social media because they're technically paying less to an influencer than what they would pay for a commercial, like for the super bowl or something, you know? So that's why the money's so high.
B
That makes so much sense. I see so many celebrities, like doing Tick Tocks and stuff.
A
Oh yeah. It's insane. And the I. I read, I'm like going into like a, like such a nerd study right now.
B
No, I, I'm like, so, like writing.
A
I read a study saying that the medium income for social media is far surpassed television and Movies, so that is wild. I know, I know.
B
Wow.
A
So it is, it is crazy to think about, like, what we're able to do for the money. It's such a blessing. Yeah. But it is shocking when you hear it.
B
That was like the biggest thing, I think.
A
Yeah.
B
I was like, this is like a real deal.
A
Yeah. But I mean, look at you. You're thriving with your Amazon jewelry too, which is just iconic. Thank you. You've talked about keeping parts of your life private. So how do you decide? I'm gonna share this and then I'm gonna keep it to myself.
B
Yes. I try and be as open as possible. I mean, at the start, like, of my relationship, I was like very private about it. More due to the fact that that person wanted to like, I gotta respect them as well. And they didn't sign up for this life.
A
Yeah.
B
So especially in the early days of like before we were dating, it's like I. It's not that I don't think it's going to work or I want to like keep my love life completely offline, which isn't the case. I came from a dating show. If I didn't want any love life, like, I wouldn't have gone on that. But I think it's mainly just like respecting the people that I'm with and like making sure they're comfortable with it and then working out like a middle ground. Like what is like the best way for us both. Because my boyfriend has the platform himself. So I also don't want to always open them up to like getting the comments that I could be getting, if you know what I mean.
A
So.
B
But I think it's like a slow working game. When I'm like more familiar with like posting my relationship online. I feel like it'll just come more consistency.
A
Yeah. I know there's a lot of buzz about your relationship. I.
B
Why guys?
A
Because people are interested in you and your love life. I think also people want you to be happy.
B
Yeah. And I'm so grateful for that. Like, when I did post my boyfriend, everyone was like, oh my God, we're so happy for you. So like, that's great.
A
Yeah. The video, the trend where you guys are walking and he picks you up and I said, oh, he's a tall king.
B
Yeah, thank you. But I didn't bend my legs. And everyone's like, she looks like the girl from White Cheeks. Oh, my.
A
Straight legs out. Yeah.
B
I was like, this was like a very like, let's do it as a joke.
A
Yeah.
B
At the front of Target in like Crazy out it.
A
Rumors are that he's, like, an athlete. Is that true?
B
Yes.
A
I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm, like, not a sports person.
B
No, that's.
A
So I probably would have no idea who he is.
B
No, he isn't.
A
But go sports.
B
Yeah.
A
Athletes are hot. You're like, period.
B
No, he's. He's really good. He's, like, been able to help me with, like, through social media himself.
A
Oh, I love that.
B
Yeah. And he was just, like, down to earth. Like, brings the best side out. I feel like I'm such, like, a hard, independent. Like, I can do everything by myself, but I'm able to, like, be more soft girl era with him. So.
A
Yeah. I also think it's healthy the way that you have your brand for yourself.
B
Yeah.
A
And you don't need to share details about your relationship in order to be successful or find success, and you have that on your own. But, like, you can enjoy your happiness with him off camera.
B
Yeah. I feel like, especially in, like, Love island beyond the Villa, like, I. For me, I think it's very big for, like, people to have their own personalities.
A
Yeah.
B
And then be stronger together as a team.
A
Yeah.
B
And like, that was because it was only early days. Then I was like, okay, this is about my life. Still early. Like, yeah, if we do another season, he might come on, but it's me.
A
Yeah.
B
Who's on the show. You know what I mean?
A
Exactly. No. Good for you. That's important to have. I feel like people can lose track of that really quickly. And I'm just. My husband doesn't have a single social media app.
B
Wait, that's amazing.
A
I know. It's really incredible.
B
That is great.
A
If he's in one of my tick tocks, I'm like, pulling teeth. I'm like, can you please do this with me? He's like, no, I don't want to be on camera, but I don't. I respect that.
B
Yeah. That's the same way. I'm like, if you don't want to do a dance, you don't want to get in. And I'm like, yeah, it's whatever.
A
Yeah. I love that. Okay. So what do you think these days? Are you more of an Aussie girl or an LA girl now?
B
Oh, I feel like I'm still an Aussie girl at heart.
A
You think?
B
I feel like my man mannerisms is that the word has kind of turned more la.
A
Really?
B
Well, like, Australians speak really quick, and I've learned to, like, slow down.
A
Okay.
B
My words.
A
Yeah.
B
I feel like I'VE also learned to, like, get rid of a lot of my slang because, like, no one stitches. Yeah.
A
I was just asking you what.
B
I was like, with my mum and nan last week, so I feel like I've got. I've like, fallen back into the habit. Yeah, but what even is in LA go Dad. Is it like the smoothies? Gym? Activewear. Yeah.
A
Pilates in the morning, beach walks? Health Nut salads? Like the Kardashian shaking salads?
B
I'm definitely not. I don't do Pilates and I. I'm like a chick fil a girl, so.
A
We should be best friends.
B
Yeah. I love. I want to get into Pilates, but I know I've really left me and I know I'm gonna, like, fall off the machine.
A
No, you won't come me to my studio. It's so private. I go to be kind.
B
Okay, wait, I've heard of them.
A
Yeah. There's three locations. They've one in Malibu, Calabasas in Hollywood. I go to the Calabasas one, but it's so private. No one can take photos or videos. JLo's private instructor teaches there. Like, he's literally incredible.
B
Okay. Is it hard to get into?
A
No. And I will tell you, I'll sign up like the night before and be on a wait list, and I'll always get in.
B
Okay. And I will.
A
Literally, it's just like a bunch of Calabasas moms that are like, hot and fun. Yeah.
B
So who's got a new book?
A
And there's like a. Literally, that's all the Locke filled with Birkins. And there's like a little coffee place there. Like, it's really cute. Yeah. And it's not. It's. It's definitely challenging. Like, it'll challenge you.
B
I love that.
A
But there's modifications and you won't fall off. Like, it's not. It's not like legree with that crazy contraption. It's just like a standard reformer.
B
Okay. That makes me feel better. It's a love sport and I love keep me active. It's just like Pilates. I'm like, oh, my God. I feel like I've miss the train. Everyone knows what they're doing.
A
No, just. You should do it. You would like it. It's really fun. And the Malibu location is gorgeous too, if you want to be closer to the water. I love Malibu too. The farmer's market.
B
I haven't been there. I haven't. Is there Nobu? Is that the one there?
A
Nobu's there. Soho House. Yeah. So gorgeous. I love Nobu. Last time I was at Nobu, I was literally sitting right next to Kim and North. Yeah. And she was like, I didn't even recognize it was north because she had a blue wig on. And I was like, oh, my God, her hair is so cute.
B
I love it.
A
Love. Yeah. Don't ever talk to anyone at Nobu, by the way. That's famous. You know that, right?
B
No.
A
Yeah. You'll get kicked out immediately if you approach anyone at their table.
B
Oh, I would never approach a table.
A
Oh, I would. 100. I had someone tell me that because I was about to immediately. Yeah. Everyone there is famous. And I'm like, you think I'm not gonna go up to this person? Be like, I'm obsessed with you?
B
Maybe like, if I was walking past someone, the way, by the way, I love you.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
And keep walking.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, I.
A
One of my friends was like, no. Security will literally kick you out.
B
Oh my God.
A
Isn't that insane?
B
I'm too busy. Like when the food's coming.
A
I'm like, that too. That too.
B
I'm like, wow. With the view. Okay. That's really good to know.
A
Yeah.
B
I didn't know. It was like on daily mail. It's like she approached people.
A
I had someone that one of my friends sat next to, someone really, really famous, and the famous person stopped her and asked where her earrings were from. And my friend got kicked out.
B
No.
A
And they had to get the manager. And she was like, I. She stopped me and asked me about my jewelry. Like, I wasn't approaching her. They're like super strict. I know. I love that. We're like on this entire tangent, how do you show love for your cat? Have you thrown her a birthday party? Taken him for a walk in a cat backpack? Built him his own catio? Sometimes love for your cat can get lost in translation. Wellness pet food transforms your love for your cat into real visible benefits through complete and balanced meals that they can taste and crave. From real shreds of chicken and fish and wellness appetizing entrees to protein packed culinary crafted recipes with wellness signature selects to over 90 mouth watering options and wellness complete health. There's a delicious dish for every feline family member. Cheeto and Mochi are a big part of our family. We love our kitties so much and wellness pet food has been our go to. Every morning that we wake up, they're meowing at our feet, begging for their breakfast because they know what's coming and it's some good food from wellness pet food. Their number one favorite, which we have been consistently ordering is the Wellness complete health variety 12 pack that comes with with four chicken entrees, four turkey and salmon entrees, and then four turkey dinners. They always gobble up every bite and don't leave any to waste. Give your cat vet recommended scientifically proven nutrition with wellness cat food. That's the kind of love you both understand. Wellness Pet Food feed well. Be well you guys. I am so excited for fall. You have no idea. Decorating my house, making delicious warm baked goods that are all pumpkin spice flavors, apple pies, just you name it it, I'm on it. I even got a fall apron because the baking is going down. I will say as a busy working mom, sometimes it can be a little bit difficult for me to get my grocery shopping done. Stocking up on all things pumpkin or grabbing ingredients for your favorite fall recipe. Let Instacart help to deliver what you need so you don't have to add another errand to your day. Order fresh groceries and household essentials online through the app and they can arrive at your door in as fast as 30 minutes. With Instacart, Acura orders, timely service and experienced shoppers make quality and convenience possible. I can't tell you how many times I lose track of what day it is and the kids are always being involved in a new activity or have a play date on the calendar. And I'll sometimes forget that I signed up to make the bait good or bring the snack or the Gatorade. And Instacart always saves the day and brings whatever I need so quickly. That way I can focus on whatever is going on at home. Or if I'm busy working or getting the kids ready, I don't have to worry about making an extra stop on our way. Another thing that I love so much is the quality of the food that's brought from Instacart is always incredible. I feel like most times that I've had food delivery services, a lot of the food is damp, damaged or the produce is already going bad. And I've never had that problem with Instacart, which I'm so grateful for. Download the Instacart app and use code AVERYWOODS20 to get $20 off your first order of $80 or more. That's code AVERYWOODS20 to get $20 off your first order Of $80 or more. Offer valid for a limited time, excludes restaurants. Additional terms apply. Cooler days call for layers that last and quince is your go to for quality essentials that Feel cozy, look refined, and won't blow your budget. Think 50 Mongolian cashmere premium denim that fits like a dream and luxe outerwear you'll wear year after year. They're wool coats. They look designer level, but they cost a fraction of the price. Because Quince partners directly with top tier ethical factories and cuts out the middleman, they deliver luxury quality pieces at half of the price of similar brands. It's the kind of wardrobe upgrade that feels smart, stylish and effortless. I'm obsessed with anything that's loungewear or pajamas from Quint. But as for fall, my recent purchase was the Mongolian cashmere mirror crew neck sweater that was only $50. The color, rich burgundy is what I went with. And it is the perfect staple for fall, for layering and to keep you cozy but also looking so classy. Their bamboo pajamas and loungewear are so cozy, buttery, soft. And the best part is I love that you can dress them up or down. I can lounge around at home with my kids, but I can also put on a pair of heels, put on a coat, and go out to dinner with my husband. Find your fall staples at quints. Go to quint.com cheers for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's. That's q-I n c.com cheers to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quint.com cheers what's something that you miss the most about Australia?
B
I miss the food. I miss my friends and family.
A
Yeah.
B
But like, yeah, I would say I also miss like Australian summers.
A
I heard it's just epic. But everyone there, so hot. Like ridiculously hot. I've never met anyone from Australia that I'm like, you're less than an 8 out of 10.
B
Wait, that's really kind.
A
You. Everyone has the hottest body. Face cards, lethal. Always tan with like the best tan lines. It's really crazy.
B
We have like strong UV down there. Yeah, it is so good. It's like the one thing I found crazy was the hype on Erwan in la.
A
Oh, you're not an Erewhon girl.
B
Oh, I love it.
A
Oh, okay.
B
But we have like so many similar restaurants in Australia.
A
Like really?
B
Salad bar where you can get like chicken? Yeah, that's like common it.
A
Oh, so is that the food that you miss? Salad bars like that?
B
Yeah, like Australian food. It's like fresh. But don't get me wrong, when I go to Australia, I'm like, I need Chipotle and chick Fil a oh, you're.
A
A Chipotle girl, too.
B
We don't have those. Oh, yeah.
A
Chipotle gives me diarrhea every time.
B
Really? Yeah.
A
I actually.
B
That.
A
Yeah, from. They got something going on.
B
Okay, Now I'm never going to eat it.
A
No, no, no. If it's not affecting you, it's not like, it's not bad food. I think it's just like. I don't know if it's like the salt or their salsa or whatever. Probably because I just drench everything in queso.
B
I can't eat that.
A
So that's probably why. Yeah. You're getting something legitimately healthy at Chipotle and I'm just like getting queso with bread.
B
I can't. It's like I don't like ranch.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
I know. It's really.
A
Maybe we can't be friends.
B
Like, I tried those ranch Doritos.
A
Oh, those weren't. Oh, Cool ranch.
B
Cool Ranch.
A
Yeah. The blue pack. That's my daughter's favorite. My 4 year old.
B
I don't like those. I've never had the ranch dip. Oh. But I thought it would just taste like those.
A
We need to get you a good Ruffle Lays Chip. Like the. Yeah, it's like they're lay's potato chip with ruffles with, like a creamy ranch dip.
B
Okay, so it's not ranch flavor. Well, do the Doritos taste like the ranch?
A
No, because they're just potato chips. But the Cool Ranch Doritos do. Yeah. My daughter walks around with Dorito dust fingers all day long.
B
I love Doritos. The red ones.
A
Oh, yeah. Don't get me turned on. Cheeto puffs, though.
B
Oh, my.
A
I'll up some Cheeto puffs. I know. Hot.
B
Oh, dude.
A
Talking about burning a hole in your stomach.
B
And I love it.
A
Yeah, me too.
B
And then get me some sriracha sauce on top.
A
Are you kidding?
B
I love spice.
A
Oh, okay. You're a spicy girl.
B
Yeah.
A
Do you like Thai food?
B
Yes.
A
Really spicy Thai food.
B
Yes. I had this really flaming hot gummy bear I found at this place, called it Sugar, which is amazing.
A
Okay.
B
They have cinnamon toast crunch, Hershey's.
A
Was it good?
B
I love Cinnamon toast Crunch. I just discovered it like a month ago.
A
Oh, yeah, your life's changed.
B
Unreal. Replied to my story like, I was like, I love this. Why didn't have it? And she's like, there's too much sugar. I'm like, don't be an almond. Like, what?
A
My husband, like, five nights a week in bed, we're sitting down watching our show and he's eating a fat ass bowl of Cinnamon toast Crunch.
B
Oh my God. That's like.
A
That's his like late night snack of choice is so good at 37 years old.
B
I'm going to buy you these Hershey Kisses and you have to try them.
A
And I'm going to send you five family size boxes of cinnamon toast crunch to your house. Thank you.
B
And the back package with the orange figure.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
I'm like, this is decor for the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Well, and those boxes are all made for kids. Like they're all distracting and stuff on the back. No, that'll still entertain me for days.
B
But I want to try the one with the marshmallows.
A
Lucky Charms.
B
I've never had this.
A
That. Oh my God. We should have had that ready for you. Honestly, we need to like go to.
B
A grocery store and get all the American.
A
Yes.
B
I saw spray on cheese. Oh, I.
A
What's it called? Cheese Whiz.
B
I think it's shot. Is it butter or ch. I think it's cheese.
A
No, it's cheese.
B
That's not a real thing.
A
It's like in a whipped cream can. No, it really is. People will literally get like Triscuit crackers and spray Cheese Whiz and it looks like. What's that? Where you spray? No, what's like the confetti that you spray. Silly String. It looks like Silly String. It's like Plasticky.
B
And that's a popular thing.
A
Very popular.
B
That was crazy. I was like, I swear I've seen this in like Nickelodeon.
A
Yeah.
B
No, I didn't think it was real.
A
It's like the green slime but cheese version. It's so true. Wow. Okay. Want to end with a rapid fire.
B
Yeah. Rap song.
A
I was like, okay, no, yeah, I'm definitely not gonna rap and not gonna dance pants. Yeah. I'm like the most monotone boring person ever.
B
You're not boring.
A
You don't think so?
B
No.
A
Thanks. I did go to the club last night. That was crazy.
B
I don't think you're monotone or boring.
A
Thank you.
B
You couldn't be boring and have a platform.
A
That's true.
B
And you couldn't be monotone either.
A
I used to be more controversial, but.
B
You know, add a little bit of spice. Add a little bit. Everyone loves that salt, man.
A
They really do. They can talk all the they want, but they're watching it.
B
Thank you.
A
I can't ask for anything better. Yeah.
B
And sometimes they this secretly agreeing but.
A
Publicly hating and you, you click on the hate comment. It's like follow back.
B
Some of them are amazing. Yeah, I'm like, claps to you. That was creative.
A
Oh, yeah. People will destroy me. I'm like, you know what? I'll give you that one.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Me up when I cut my hair short like Lord Farquaad. Yeah, that's true. I did belong on track. I literally look like that little prince.
B
Yeah, that is wild. No, but the follow back is when they're like, I never liked you. Like, I don't want yourself anymore. It's still follow back that tea.
A
You're like, you're still supporting me. So thank you.
B
Thank you.
A
Okay, who's your all time favorite Love island contestant? Not including yourself?
B
Not including me. I ride or die for nae nae.
A
Love her.
B
Yeah, I love her.
A
Is she the same in person?
B
Yes, better. Like she is the same on camera. She is in person. Great friend. She's fronty, hardworking, like, like gorgeous. No, like, that is like a goddess.
A
Every time she comes, obsessed with her.
B
I'm like, really? Girl, like, in awe.
A
I fully agree. Go to cocktail order in Vegas.
B
Oh, spicy Mark.
A
Really?
B
Any time of the day you can have it.
A
Okay, so you're a tequila drinker?
B
Yeah, only it's the stimulant alcohol. Everything else is a depressant.
A
Wait, what? I didn't know that.
B
Yeah.
A
So vodka is a depressant?
B
Yeah.
A
I'm pretty sure I should stop drinking those vodka martinis.
B
Oh, you're a martini.
A
I'm a dirty martini girl.
B
Filthy or just dirty?
A
Extra dirty. I don't do it filthy. I just like a little extra splash.
B
Blue cheese olives or not?
A
No, it's just regular olives.
B
No, that's iconic. I feel like if martini people are so, like, cool. It's my smile.
A
No. You know, what happened was I moved to Calabasas and I was like, I need to be more mature and I need to start like, dirty martinis. It's like. It's a Kris Jenner drink. Drink.
B
Yes.
A
You just feel like, cool when you drink it.
B
They're just so, like, potent.
A
They're very potent. But I will say, like, you only need one drink.
B
And you're good and you're good.
A
Whereas if I get a margarita, I need like four.
B
Yeah, that is true.
A
You know, so I'll drink like last night I drink like one and a half dirty martinis and I had like the perfect buzz all night.
B
Okay, so maybe today I'm just gonna do dirty martinis. One and a half.
A
We'll get you one.
B
I'll be up there, like, perfect. Doing a runner on the stage.
A
She starts sprinting and stripping. Okay. Go to hangover cure.
B
Liquid IV.
A
I love Liquid IV.
B
Yes. And like, chick fil A or Wendy's 4x4.
A
What the is a Wendy's 4x4?
B
You know Wendy's, the fast food chain.
A
No, I know, I know Wendy's.
B
They have this. But what's the 4x4? 4x4, I think it's called.
A
Or four for four.
B
And it's four things for $4.
A
Wait, Scott, you got that? That.
B
Yeah, he said all that is the most amazing thing. That's like, top five wows of America. Four things for $4.
A
Is Australia expensive?
B
Yeah.
A
Compared to America, I would say so.
B
You could not get four things for $4.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. That's like, amazing.
A
I just wonder for $4 for four items, like, what's in the food? I'm not gonna.
B
Oh, if you're paying $4.
A
Yeah.
B
Question.
A
Yeah. Like, they're making it out back of the dumpster for. For sure. For sure.
B
I'm weird substance.
A
But you know what? It's helping the hangover, so who cares?
B
Yeah. And asleep.
A
Your biggest ick.
B
Oh, okay. My biggest ick is people putting people on show. Like, show, like, people. Like, how would you explain putting people on show? Like making someone, like, embarrassing someone in front of people to make yourself look better. Yes.
A
Would you say that?
B
Like, I. That is a massive egg to me. Like, ew.
A
It's giving. Insecure.
B
Yeah. I don't like that. Yep. I don't like skinny jeans. And guys.
A
You know what?
B
No, that's actually like, criminal.
A
My husband, we were. He's like, in his fashion era, like, whatever, trying to find his style. And I don't even remember where we were, but we were traveling somewhere and he was like, so many people here are wearing skinny jeans. Like, I think they're coming back. And I said, don't even say that. That. Because when do you know what's worse than skinny jeans? When they wear tight ass skinny jeans with, like, tennis shoes.
B
Oh, what? With the rip in the knee.
A
Oh. Or like that, like, pleated.
B
Like that's been like, literally sewed over. That is the patches.
A
The knee patch. Just in case they fall. Save some padding.
B
They literally look like they've put on, like, those skater, like, no action.
A
And you know, they've never ridden a skateboard in their entire.
B
I can't do that.
A
Yeah.
B
I also can't do, like, the ones at the gym. Those guys that wear those shir.
A
And it's like the floss tank tops. What?
B
Yes, yes. Like one. Where do you buy that?
A
No, they cut them.
B
They. They take diy.
A
They buy them and then they go home and purposely take the time to use kitchen scissors and cut them.
B
Not that like gross. That is like.
A
And then when their nipple hangs out the side. Don't get me started. Don't wear shirts that literally just take your shirt off. What is that?
B
And then they're filming from the back with this skinny little pencil strip. I'm like, oh.
A
And you know, they have their tripod set up in the gym.
B
That also kind of gives me the ick.
A
Yeah, I'm sorry. Like, I know.
B
How many run throughs did you. And were you like. Yeah, yeah. Biceps look stronger. That is.
A
They like give it all in their first rep and then the rest is like so shitty. Cuz they're like, I'm cutting it anyways. It's fine. It doesn't matter.
B
I come up with that. I really come up with. And then they have the audacity to be like, oh, that was cringe. Yeah. Like you spent four hours working out which trap was better? Like literally.
A
And they have like a mic clip to them. Stop. I know. Okay, who's your celebrity crush? I know you have your boyfriend, but like, oh my.
B
Okay. My celebrity crush, Scott Eastwood in the Longest Ride.
A
Oh, that's Scott's number one celebrity crush.
B
No, because when I watched that, I was like, like, please let me go to Alabama. Alabama University. Like, I thought that was going to happen to me.
A
The Longest Ride was like the movie. The movie made me so horny.
B
Oh my God. The way he came from flowers to the thing.
A
Oh, yeah. Like, I don't know if he's ever been in a movie again.
B
But we watched it when we went to Dallas. We thought it was only right. We put our cowboy hats on and we watched it.
A
Wait, I love that.
B
But I forgot how good it was.
A
You know what?
B
Like, I was like, I.
A
And he is a beautiful man.
B
Beautiful.
A
Yeah.
B
He's just like, God took his time with.
A
Yeah, he really did.
B
He said chisel and we all got to watch. I was so excited.
A
Okay, what's your favorite pump up song? Like nights you're going out with the girls, you're getting ready. What's your song?
B
I love any song by Future.
A
I love Future.
B
Okay. I. Because a lot of people this. No, forget that. I was going to say a lot of people Don't Teach is such a common artist. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
But like, last night we were talking about, like, Taylor Swift. Like, a lot of the girls were listening to, like, House of Life of a Show Girl as their pump up song.
A
Okay.
B
But, like, I feel like I'm more like a future. I love Lil Baby.
A
Okay.
B
But I don't think I have, like, the entire album.
A
Yeah. I'm like, a.
B
Is a good one, I would say.
A
Yeah. I need, like, a Kendrick Lamar, Nicki Minaj. The Taylor Swift stuff's fine. But, like, when I'm, like, chilling.
B
Yeah.
A
Yes. Driving.
B
Oh. And I'm like, doing skincare.
A
Yeah, you're winding down.
B
When I'm ready to, like, get blackout drunk. Yeah.
A
And we're gonna do that.
B
I'll go to dark liner.
A
We're gonna do that on dirty martinis tonight. That's what's gonna happen.
B
Listening to Kendrick.
A
Exactly. Okay. I want to end by. I kind of want to know what your future plans are. Like, what do you want to do? What do you see yourself doing with your career and your platform? Like, what's an ideal career for you out of this?
B
I feel like recently, I would say, like, the past couple of months, I've been, like, really trying to, like, try different avenues. And, like, I'm so grateful that this job, like, gives you so many opportunities. But, like, things like hosting and, like, just kind of moving away from reality, not forgetting it, but, like, having, like, two components. So I'm just trying to get my face in everything, learn from everyone. But yeah, I don't know, my goal, like, obviously, like, host something, and you.
A
Never know what comes with social media. Like, there's so many things that I've done that I'm like, I would never in a million years think that I would do that, but I'm so glad I did.
B
And in, like, two months, I'll be like, oh, my God, I didn't realize I could do that.
A
Yeah.
B
And I loved it. Oh, I tried that. And you know what? It wasn't best for me, but at least I tried it.
A
Yeah. Do you know I need more from you, though, on socials.
B
Please tell me in the last Love.
A
Makeup tutorials, because your face is beat to filth at all times. And, like, it's even better in person. Thank you. So I need more glam videos.
B
Okay.
A
Please do that. And that's just me selfishly asking so I can watch them. But I feel like everyone also would love that.
B
Thank you. Okay, I can do that.
A
Yeah. Like, what's your lip liner today?
B
Oh, today's top.
A
Do you know the shade?
B
I've got it written down.
A
It's so good.
B
But I love like a brownie pink.
A
Yes.
B
Like that's by my favorite. I love the tarts. I'll get the names. I love Cork.
A
Cork by Mac.
B
I love.
A
Do you wear Wherever Walnut. Make It Forever or like Anywhere Caffeine? What?
B
I wear Anywhere Caffeine.
A
Okay. Wherever Walnut is. Haley Bieber is like number one.
B
I need to do that.
A
And I literally thank God for makeup forever. Send me PR all the time because it's always sold out because of Haley.
B
That I stuff is so hard to get.
A
I have like the little nubs in my purse because I use it so much.
B
Much same.
A
But you would love Wherever Walnut.
B
Okay. New trailer. I also love Nyx.
A
Oh yeah. Nyx is so good.
B
I like a pencil, not a crayon.
A
Okay.
B
But the top ones are crayon and they're really. I'm just not. I'm also not a lip gloss. Like a lipstick.
A
You like matte?
B
Matte.
A
Yeah.
B
I have extensions. It's touching my lips.
A
You have extensions in my hair. So. Oh, oh, oh. Like, like sticky gloss.
B
I love to talk. So I'm like. And I'm like, yeah.
A
Last night at the pool when it was like raining and my hair was just like across my entire mout. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't.
B
But you looked so hot yesterday.
A
That's very nice. I.
B
All the girls came back from the pool. It looked like they did some like wet hair look. I was like, wow.
A
No, we just got rained out. There's a lot of thunder light.
B
Really nice. Next time I'm going to comb my hair and just wait for it to rain.
A
I'm so glad you thought it was purposeful cuz we were like, what the is going on here? No.
B
I can't believe you stayed out there. That's credit.
A
It was dedication, cuz the martini. Okay, where can everyone find you on socials?
B
Oh my God. I feel like I'm ever at Instagram. Tik Tok, Snapchat, ltk.
A
What's your handle so people can go follow you? Yes.
B
Let me remember this. On Instagram. It is made. I made in like 2012, so. And my mom gave me such a common name. I'm like, come on, I want a cool name so I can have one Instagram. But anyway, it's Olivia 2A's underscore Walker. All of that that is on Instagram and Snapchat and on Tick Tock is Olivia Walker with two Rs. But like Instagram. Please can I Have the same thing across everything.
A
Oh, my. Yeah, Instagram. We gotta fix that. Why do I have two eyes in my name? That's crazy.
B
Like, underscore. Like, why do I have to have a double A in an underscore?
A
No, mine's just Avery with two Y's. But I had made it so long ago, and. And I've tried. Someone has, like, just the Avery woods account and, like, hasn't posted in five years. And I'm like, no.
B
Oh, see, I want the live. But it's like this brand has.
A
I'm like, oh, the golf brand. Live.
B
No, they don't even have. It's like, oh, tech brand in San Francisco.
A
I'm like, so, hey, if you're listening, give her a Randall. Yeah.
B
How much are we talking?
A
Oh, my. No, it's a lot. Yeah, I'm, like, getting URLs and stuff. Yeah, I've looked into that. Yeah, I know.
B
Maybe we can do like a.
A
That's more business talk. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. You're such a joy. I can't wait to party with you today.
B
I can't wait.
A
Yeah. Make sure you guys go follow Liv. Let's go party it up in Vegas. Cheers.
B
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Episode: "Love Island Tea | Liv Walker"
Host: Avery Woods
Guest: Liv Walker (Love Island alum, influencer)
Date: October 13, 2025
This episode is a bubbly, candid conversation between host Avery Woods and Liv Walker, best known from Love Island. Recorded in Las Vegas amid a whirlwind influencer trip, the two discuss Liv's journey from Australia to reality TV fame, behind-the-scenes realities of Love Island, navigating influencer culture, and personal growth after the villa. The episode is full of humor, vulnerability, girl talk, and lots of playful asides on everything from Amazon jewelry to the mysteries of LA traffic.
Glam With a Twist (01:19-02:10):
Las Vegas Unwell Trip (02:20-04:36):
Liv's Background (04:54-06:12):
On Honesty and Upbringing (06:40-07:45):
Post-Show Life and Blow-Up (09:44-10:48):
Joining the Villa (11:19-12:16):
Editing Reality TV (12:16-13:22):
Unseen Un-glamorous Side (17:02-18:28):
Beauty Maintenance Challenges (18:29-20:15):
Career Shifts & Social Media Realities (25:17-29:54):
Moving to Los Angeles & Lifestyle (29:54-32:13):
Making Friends & Industry Connections (34:13-35:25):
Aussie At Heart (43:26-44:01):
Food Talk (51:02-54:36):
Rapid Fire Q&A (55:24–end):
On Post-Show Fame:
“I got my phone back...I didn’t know how big the show was...then I saw the fan edits and I just turned my phone off!” – Liv [09:44]
On Reality TV Editing:
“I don’t want to say 60% cut out...all of us love to talk for hours.” – Liv [12:35]
On the Reality of Glam:
“I need a nail tech...the boys had a barber. I was like, I brought my own tape—in case my extensions came out.” – Liv [19:44–20:02]
On Brand and Industry:
“There is room for everybody on social media.” – Avery [28:41]
“I love the business side...I love seeing how brands market. Like, Maureen [from TA], how she does her brand trips.” – Liv [26:21]
On Privacy:
“At the start of my relationship, I was very private...have to respect that they didn’t sign up for this.” – Liv [39:51]
On Influencer Income:
“One thing I didn’t expect? The money. That sounds horrible but, like...companies have this much money.” – Liv [35:44]
On Keeping It Real:
“Sometimes they’re publicly hating, but secretly agreeing. You click on the hate comment, it’s like: ‘follow back.’” – Avery [56:02]
| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|-------------| | Fashion and Amazon finds, Vegas trip intro | 01:19–02:20 | | Diff between Aussie/LA honesty & upbringing | 06:02–07:45 | | Love Island casting & villa entry | 09:04–12:16 | | Reality TV editing and behind the scenes | 12:16–13:22 | | Challenges of maintenance on the show | 18:29–20:15 | | Brand building and influencer business | 25:17–29:54 | | LA lifestyle and driving culture | 32:33–33:45 | | Relationships and privacy | 39:38–42:49 | | Food hot takes & cultural differences | 51:02–54:36 | | Rapid fire favorites & funny callouts | 55:24–end |
The episode is upbeat, playful, and relatable, with both Avery and Liv embracing humor and candor. They swap compliments, roast weird American foods, and drop plenty of viral influencer “tea”—all in a conversational style full of laughter and authenticity.
If you want to understand the cultural crossover of reality TV fame, the honest challenges (and perks) of influencer life, and how one Love Island bombshell handled the transition from pub shifts in Sydney to Los Angeles brand deals, this episode is a gold mine—insightful, hilarious, and full of behind-the-scenes reality.