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redefining wellness | dr. christina rahm
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Scientist, CEO, and mom of four, Dr. Christina Rahm sits down with Avery to talk about the products, practices, and mindset shifts that are helping people live longer, cleaner lives. From launching dozens of companies to developing toxin-fighting supplements, protective clothing, and skincare you can literally eat, Christina breaks down her mission to detox the world. They also get real about Botox, breast implants, Ozempic, and THC vs. alcohol. Wellness talk, but make it evidence-based and actually useful!
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Host of Bachelor in Paradise
Bachelor in paradise is finally back, and we're shaking things up. Our young singles are joined by Golden Bachelor and Bachelorette alumni. And it's all taking place in Costa Rica. With new compatibility challenges, even the strongest relationships will be tested. But don't worry, there'll still be plenty of steamy romances and explosive drama, because finding love in the sun always comes with a little shade. Catch new episodes of Bachelor in Paradise, Mondays at 8.7Central on ABC and stream next day on Hulu.
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Tinder Representative
Meeting new people just got way more fun, because now you don't have to do it alone. With Tinder's new double date feature, you and your bestie can match together. Tap the double date icon to see.
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Avery Woods
Your profiles built for two.
- [00:43]
Tinder Representative
When two pairs match, the group chat kicks off. Scope the profile, send memes, keep the chat fun.
- [00:49]
Avery Woods
Hype each other up, flirt a little, maybe plan a hang. It's always better when you're in it together. Try the new Tinder double date. Explore all the possibilities. Tinder. It starts with a swipe. Download Tinder today.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Hi.
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Avery Woods
Welcome to Cheers. I'm your Host, Avery Woods. Dr. Christina Raum. Welcome.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Thank you. I'm so glad to be here.
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Avery Woods
No, I'm so happy to have you. We were supposed to meet a little while ago, and then our schedules didn't line up, so I'm so happy that we got this opportunity.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Me, too. Thank you.
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Avery Woods
No, thank you. So you wear so many different hats. When someone asks you what you do for a living, what's your answer?
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Dr. Christina Raum
You know, I am a scientist humanitarian that does a lot of things globally to try to innovate and improve the world that we're in, whether it's the land, air, and water, or people or animals. And so that's what I really feel like I'm doing in all areas, not just science.
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Avery Woods
Yeah, that's amazing. And I. I quickly want to just. I'm sure people ask this all the time, but what are your degrees?
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Dr. Christina Raum
So, I have a lot of international degrees, but let me start with my undergrad. I have an undergraduate degree in criminal justice and psychology.
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Avery Woods
Amazing.
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Dr. Christina Raum
At one point, I thought I was going to be in the CIA or the FBI or a lawyer. You know, I was trying to figure out what to do. And then I have a master's of science, and then I have a doctorate degree in counseling psychology from the University of South Alabama or Sarasota. The first degrees are from University of South Alabama. And then I also taught in dental school at Spring Hill College, which is a Jesuit school. Like, I think Pepperdine. And then I have a degree. I have an MD degree from Ghana, from Kazmond, where I helped develop their cadaver labs and their schools. We have a podcast coming out about that. And I developed their whole curriculum, but I've never practiced as an md. And then I have postgraduate work and graduate certifications for three years from Harvard in nanobiotechnology and bioscience. Engineering. Engineering. And then online certifications and degrees where I also went in person from Cornell in pharmaceutical nutraceutical manufacturing, and then also in nutrition and healthy living. Internationally, I got a PhD in pharmacology and I also have PhDs in strategic science. So I have a lot. And I have five honorary degrees like from the Vatican and different places I'm on. I'm the chairman at Yasmin University for nutraceuticals and pharmaceuticals. So I've done a lot of different. A lot of different things, not just in the United States, but internationally as well.
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Avery Woods
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
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Dr. Christina Raum
I'm 55. Well, no, I'm 56 now. I'm sorry. It's interesting. I was born in 1969. My original birth certificate, but my name was. It was during Vietnam. My name was spelt wrong and the wrong date, my mother says. So they changed it when I turned 16. I know that's a weird story, but it actually happens to not. It wasn't just me when all of that was happening and people just wrote out the birth certificates because I'm that old and I grew up in the country, they didn't always do it. Right. Right. So anyway, 56.
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Avery Woods
Well, you look amazing for 56, but also you are so accomplished for 56. And what's incredible is that you also have four children.
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Dr. Christina Raum
I do.
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Avery Woods
How do you balance it all?
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Dr. Christina Raum
You know, I have. My 29 year old is getting married this year. You have four children too? I love meeting people that have children.
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Avery Woods
Yeah.
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Dr. Christina Raum
It makes me feel more normal.
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Avery Woods
Especially when you're in a certain type of business or you provide for your family. It's kind of rare to meet people in our positions that have a lot of kids.
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Dr. Christina Raum
You know, I used to work for pharmaceutical and biotech and I was the only female that usually had children in any company at that level in science. And then to have four was kind of not celebrated, you know, Like I remember one CEO saying, you understand you can't have more children. And the last two were kind of a surprise, but I'm very thankful for that surprise was two of the best surprises of My life and, you know, managing a 29 and 26, 19, 20 year old. And I say managing and loving. Right, but they're your responsibility the rest of your life. It's a lot. And so being able to juggle that, I've really incorporated a tight circle of friends and family that have honestly helped me navigate that system. Because there's no way I can do all of it on my own. I just can't.
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Avery Woods
It takes a village is a very real state thing.
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Dr. Christina Raum
It really does. I know when Hillary Clinton came out with that, I actually resonated with that because there's no way in my life. I have amazing teams that manage different companies. My name's behind it, but if you really look at it, it's because I do choose really amazing people to be around. And if it doesn't work, then I have to get rid of people. Because as a scientist, I understand that our cells are talking. I used to not understand that till I went back to Harvard, and then we had a whole class on helping us understand that whoever you surround yourself with either elevates you or makes your life less. Because the cells coordinate just like they do inside the body, which I never really completely understood that. I understood as a psychologist that it matters who you're around, but now I understand as a scientist on a much deeper level, it matters. And so that's really changed my life, to be honest. Once I finished that degree, it helped me really make better decisions in my life.
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Avery Woods
Yeah, this interests me so much because I don't know if, you know, my background's in nursing, so I was a PICU nurse. And so science was always very important to me. That was how I became interested in nursing was I took my anatomy classes and I just. I loved it. It's so fascinating to me. So it's interesting hearing this conversation from a different perspective. That's, you know, you're so science based, whereas I'm more medical based. What are the products that you focus on with your brands? Because I know you're big into toxins and you talk a lot about that. So what are some of those products that you have developed?
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Dr. Christina Raum
So this is my biggest passion in life. You know, how you choose what your mission is. And this is my mission. I feel like, you know, I had a. I lost a child. I had another child with cancer who just moved in la. He's great now, but he was two. And I'm sure you know this as a mother, it was devastating to me.
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Avery Woods
Oh, and I also was a pediatric ICU nurse, so I treated kids with cancer a lot of my career. I do a lot of work with St. Jude. I just, I'm so passionate about childhood cancer awareness.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Me too. And I've done a lot of research at St. Jude, so I understand. So when you have a child and it happens, it's devastating, right? And so I ended up having a pituitary prolactinoma, brain tumor, syringomyelia melanoma, squamous basal. I had all kinds of cancer because when my first child was born, it just kind of spread throughout my body. And this became such a mission of mine to detox the world, because I started understanding, you know, I've worked at Pfizer, jj, Bristol Myers. I could go on and on. No matter what we developed, we still had more autoimmune disorders and more cancer. And you probably, you may or may not remember this 20 years ago. They didn't understand that environmental triggers were what was causing an autoimmune disorder and disease. They looked at genetics, right? But what they weren't looking at is that an epigenetic was caused from an environmental factor, whether it was a virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites, or all the mitoplast plastics toxins. And then the more I looked into it, I went to meetings with the World Health Organization and UN and was looking at all the data. And I said to myself, someone's got to step in. The governments don't have the money to change this. We can't change our air, land and water overnight. It's just too expensive. So my mission became how do I make products scientifically that get rid of the toxins that we have already created? We can't give up. For us to say we're not going to do anything does not work. When I started understanding that the organic food we were eating, if the seed that was planted in that ground had parent seeds that had GMOs, then you're just planting that. And even though it's on organic soil and land and water, you're going to put into people's bodies these toxins, right? That's why I went back to school to try to learn how do I get rid of this in every plant, leaf, seed and being. And so I started focusing on that. So all the products I produce go through a multifaceted process, even the clothing to detox, and then put in a protective barrier without synthetics. So this became a huge mission of mine. And everything that I've done over the last, I would say 10, 10 more, 10, 15 years of my life has been focused on that.
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Avery Woods
And what is the product that you ended up developing from all of this research?
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Dr. Christina Raum
So Clean Slate was the big product. It was launched. It's the only product I've ever worked on that has been so controversial, you know, controversial legal issues, because it does a lot of amazing things. I can't make claims about it, but it was launched in this country. And that's why the company took off in 90 countries. Because when people started realizing they could get rid of mycoplastics and mitotoxins, it became extremely important to them to try to help their bodies. Some people have been vaccinated, some people hadn't, but it doesn't matter. We're all exposed to this and even the clothes we're wearing and what we're breathing. And so Clean Slate was a, honestly, a life changing product for a lot of people, just because its purpose is to go in and really clean out the body gradually and safely. This product, it's kind of like everything you do. Like if you go home and you make spaghetti, it may turn out bad, right? Or it may turn out great. I wasn't sure. So I made about 21 formulas, then I went down to 17. And those, a lot of those are in the basis of a lot of the things I do. I ended up revising everything in 2018 and 2019 to change even the patents that I had written. And so now I have new patents filed because I just kept catching how I could make it better. So that particular formula is really important. And then Clean Spirits, which has a lot of patents around it, is to basically block sugar and carbs and help the body metabolize alcohol. And it even got the trademarks and the patents approved for emergency use and for liver support, because, you know, your liver has to detox. So to metabolize and detox things in the liver, it also got things approved like reversal of aging and regeneration of the skin, hair and nails. Because if you can detox things out of the body or clean the body, the cells can be like a newborn baby and they can communicate and they can be healthy. So the other part of what I did was, now what are we going to put in people's bodies? So I had to make sure I created processes to help clean even a vitamin C or a plant or a leaf, or risperatol or turmeric curcumin, which. Turmeric curcumin is amazing and peptides are amazing, but they hold on to these toxins and heavy metals. It was too hard to talk to people about it. To be honest, because your scientists and doctors in the world didn't understand those convers. And to be honest, it makes people mad because it's one of these things, and I don't understand this. People would rather not hear the truth. People think it's too much. But for me, as a mother and as a scientist, we have to face the truth so we can solve things. And that became. I'm not even scared of things anymore, to be honest, because at one point, I worked on a project that had to do with Mars and, you know, the moon and travel and everything. And I started thinking, I need to help our Earth here because the likelihood of my children going to another planet is a lot less than the likelihood that I can help this planet. Right.
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Avery Woods
You know what I think? Even though people always have opinions, you obviously your passion has paid off because your business is extremely successful. All of them are. And I think it's grown immensely because people have been using it and spread word about it working for them. So I think what started as your passion project, aside from people's opinions, paid off in the long run.
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Dr. Christina Raum
I think it did, too. One of my other focuses, we have a product called Zero In. I was really focused on mental health because I had worked in China a lot and I've worked in so many countries. And I knew that the repercussions of what happened years ago were going to be mental illness. Because when you have something like a pandemic, you have things that are happening. It's not just what goes on. It's how you mentally and emotionally handle it. And so, like, for your younger generation, I'm sure you know this, you have children, the depression, the anxiety, especially among women and what people are dealing with, it's almost like they're paralyzed, right? So that became a huge focus. And I understood that anytime you have a virus or anytime you have this major illness, dopamine and serotonin go down lower. And I told you my first doctorate degree was psychology. And so I really started focusing on how can I naturally improve focus and performance? How can I naturally improve anxiety and depression? I can't claim I'm doing it, but what can I do to make the body overall balance out and be able to deal with things? And that's where Zero in came in. And I. I was even focused on myself, to be honest, because I. I get very tired. I have a lot to do. I had worked at Pfizer during Viagra, and I wanted something that also increased sexual performance. So Zero in hit all of those platforms. I Sourced some of those ingredients from Africa and India, from vines or roots that you cannot get anywhere else, which is one of the reasons I travel a lot. But again, it was a passion project for me, for my children and their children. And even. Even though I understood most women didn't understand what I was doing, I understood that once they did, they would be able to help their family. Because women love their family, right? And I know men do, too. But when a child comes out of your body or you're responsible day to day, it kind of changes you.
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Avery Woods
Absolutely.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And so I really wanted to do something that later people would be like, okay, this is helping my family. I didn't want to say I was doing it. I wanted it to help. So having a child that almost dies of cancer and then one that did that really put that focus on my shoulders and in my heart to be able to do it. So it's been something. I feel like I don't feel successful. I'm just being honest with you. I feel like there's so much more to do, and I'm very thankful for people like you that spread the message, because I say this constantly. I was just with the president of Kosovo. We were just at these big events, and she's a good friend of mine. Her story touched my heart so much. But I told all the social media and PR people there, if we don't share these positive stories, that maybe they had a negative contents to begin with, like cancer's negative, losing a child, the toxins, the microplastics. No one wants to hear about it. But what about the positive aspect of that? And I really feel like if people can start having faith in us as humans and the fact that we can make changes, we will. You can't just say a virus is going to kill a population and not give credit to the human beings that are here. If we medically and scientifically use our passion to change things, we can. But it will never happen without pr, social media, and the creatives, because the creatives are what take it to another level. And I mean that. A lot of people don't understand that I'm a small piece of what I do, right? But together, we can all make these major changes.
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Host of Bachelor in Paradise
Bachelor in paradise is finally back, and we're shaking things up. Our young singles are joined by Golden Bachelor and Bachelorette alumni. And it's all taking place in Costa Rica. With new compatibility challenges, even the strongest relationships will be tested. But don't worry, there'll still be plenty of steamy romances and explosive drama, because Finding love in the sun always comes with a little shade. Catch new episodes of Bachelor in Paradise Mondays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream next day on Hulu.
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Tinder Representative
Meeting new people just got way more fun. Because now you don't have to do it alone. With Tinder's new Double Date feature, you and your bestie can match together. Tap the Double Date icon to see.
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Avery Woods
Your profiles built for two.
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Tinder Representative
When two pairs match, the group chat kicks off. So scope the profile, send memes, keep.
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Avery Woods
The chat fun, hype each other up, flirt a little, maybe plan a hang. It's always better when you're in it together.
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Tinder Representative
Try the new Tinder Double Date.
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Avery Woods
Explore all the possibilities. Tinder it starts with a swipe. Download Tinder today.
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Tinder Representative
This episode of Cheers with Avery woods.
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Avery Woods
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Dr. Christina Raum
So it really is important to ground. I know you probably know that people don't realize that I need to do a lot more than I do, but it makes a major impact. Your stress level causes inflammation and causes diseases and autoimmune disorders. You and I both know that, but a lot of times people don't pay attention to that. So meditation for me and prayer is hugely important to me. I spend hours a day and if you ask me how do I do that with my schedule, when I sleep, I've trained myself because I have trained. I grew up in church. I grew up going and praying. I also have trained in India and in Malaysia and different areas on how to meditate. So I put myself to sleep that way. When I wake up in the morning, I spend hours doing it in kind of a semi conscious state because I'm trying to really focus on what I need to do with my body. But it's not just what I. I don't just focus on myself. I focus on everyone I'm working with, people I meet, and really trying to create this energetic bond so that we can elevate and not go further down. So those are really important. Even water is very important.
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Avery Woods
I carry my hydro jug all day, probably refill that five times a day.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And so I focus a lot on that. I focus a lot on green tea, because that also will help with your aging process.
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Avery Woods
Yeah. Doesn't green tea almost kind of cleanse your body a bit, too?
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Dr. Christina Raum
It does. I wanted anything that I created. I have animal products, for example. I wanted anything to be able to be used with children or older people, inside or outside of their bodies, making sure there's no toxins. That's why it was so important to me that people could use it. So I would say those are really important. I do want to go back. Another thing that I feel like people don't understand. I know people take showers, which is really good to, you know, lift the body and get the dead skins off. But also taking a bath in different temperatures or cold, plunging infrared is really important. I always put in lavender into my water and Epsom salt because it really helps the body heal. And then if I get really sick or something happens and people are always like, what? You get sick?
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Avery Woods
And I'm like, yeah, with your travel schedule. Yeah.
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Dr. Christina Raum
With being on a plane, you know, 100 hours, it's just. It's crazy, my schedule. So I will put clove and orange oregano and different antibacterials into my water with Epsom salt and lavender. If I get really sick and I make the water really hot and I get in and I get out, I stay in as long as I can, and then I get out. And then I've even done that process for my face when my face is breaking out. But it hurts really bad. I don't know if your audience ever wants to do it, but it hurts. But for me, having Lyme's disease, having had cancer, I can take that three minutes of pain, Right. To get better and I've never done that without it helping me.
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Avery Woods
Wow.
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Dr. Christina Raum
So if I get, like, I used to get pneumonia all the time, and I know the products that I've worked on have helped me, but still, sometimes I get sick, and that's what I do. I carry just the oils around with me, and I do it.
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Avery Woods
And it hurts because it's hot.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah. Clove's hot, oregano's hot. The orange is hot. All of those are hot. But they're also very antimicrobial, antibacterial, anti parasitic, and antifungal. And when the. When the viruses happened, I was more worried about fungus and parasites than anything.
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Avery Woods
So if. If people are trying to have a hot girl summer, right, and eliminate some toxins from their body, what are some things you think that the average person, especially in our country, should be cutting out just to automatically improve their body overall, systemically?
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Dr. Christina Raum
I really. I mean, I think everyone knows this. It's hard to accept, but, like, when I had the pituitary tumor, I cut out all sugar. And I mean all sugar, right? And I want people to know, even, like, fruit, certain fruit holds onto the sugar, and certain fruit holds on to toxins, too, and heavy metals and certain. And some of the fruit we have, even if it's organic, it doesn't even have the minerals and vitamins we thought it had. And I know people hate hearing it. I hate hearing it like, when I go to a country where there's never been GMOs or pesticides, the fruit, so much better, right? But I think you have to pay attention. Even if you cut out sugar, pay attention to the fruit that you're eating, because some of it is high in sugar. So you want to pick things that are not high in sugar. Avocados are fruit, right? That's a little bit better for you. And then again, carbs are sugar. I just want to say that. I know that's hard for people to hear, but if you're really trying to do that this summer, then you've got to focus on, really, proteins and good vegetables. And I'll say that again, good vegetables. Like, having a pound of french fries or a potato every night is not healthy. And then there is a balance, right? But if you're really trying to clean your body, those are things you need to do and you need to work out. I mean, you've got to get things going. There's not a day I'm not running around, I don't work out as much as I should, but I do work out in my room. And hotel rooms. Even if you can get 10 minutes in before you start your day, before you go to bed, it really does get the cells and the body to work more effectively. And it also helps the body rid of toxins. So if you're doing like a chelation or a detox, you've got to be moving. You can't just sit there and think it's going to work as effectively.
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Avery Woods
Sure. And I've heard from people in my personal life that have taken Ozempic, that's very trendy right now, or semi glutide and they all say, I'm really happy with the weight that I lost, but I feel like really flabby and I don't. I lost all my muscle tone because they stopped working out after they were taking the shot because they didn't think they needed to, not realizing that it was eating away at their muscle as well. So I think no matter what you're doing, changing your life, you have to keep your body moving.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Ozempic is not a horrible product in my opinion. When people really need to make that change because they're diabetic or they're overweight or they just need to, you know, because this extra weight in our bodies is horrible for inflammation. But you need peptides along with it that do the opposite. Let me explain that. So I came up with Sculpt, which blocks the sugar and carbs. It's not as effective as Ozempic if you ask me. It takes a little bit longer, it can take you about two months instead of doing this fast release. But you will. Most of our people have lost a lot of weight on it, but at the same time I tell them they have to take a peptide blend which helps the muscle because you will lose muscle when you're doing that. Whether it's Ozempic or the products I make, people have this misconception of, okay, I don't need to do anything. You need a positive peptide. And again, I recommend the powder formats or the pills because you have to see if they're going to work and you need to make sure they're sequenced right. Ozempic alone is not bad, but long term because of your delivery mechanism inside it can cause very harmful side effects.
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Avery Woods
Sure. What's your thoughts on Botox?
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Dr. Christina Raum
I'm not against Botox, so if you look at my history, I know we both don't know everything about each other. But I worked in dermatology for a while. I worked with human monoclonal antibodies with rare diseases. But through that I worked for the top plastic surgeons and dermatologists in the world. And then even before that, working at Pfizer and different companies, I was exposed to the top key opinion leaders living in San Diego and LA at the time. Of course, it was great.
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Avery Woods
Oh, yeah, of course.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And I was young, so I was educated. And I actually know the inventor of Botox and the CEO, Robert Grant really well. We were knighted into the same family at the Vatican.
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Avery Woods
Amazing.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And his story is phenomenal. But I'm not scared of Botox because it is something that can help, actually, with migraines. I don't use a lot of Botox. I try to limit it. Any kind of injection, I try to limit to once or twice a year. I've been criticized, though, that I even use it because our followers are really into nature and natural things that I am too. But I also understand the whole process and how it was made. And to me, it's one of the safest things to use. On your face.
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Avery Woods
Yeah. I was an aesthetic nurse before I left nursing and do social media full time. So I was just genuinely curious because obviously, as someone that not only administered it, but is a frequent user, not just to keep my face looking young and glowy, but also because I have really bad tmj. I have really bad migraines, and those are all covered under insurance. And it's a little bit different when you're comparing aesthetics with medical.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah.
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Avery Woods
So that's why I was curious of your thoughts.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah, I really think there's misconceptions about Botox. I know people can have reactions. They're usually reversible. You know, all of this. But for me, no, I'm not against Botox. I'm really not. I use a lot of lasers, to be honest, in my face and body. I like lasers. You know, I like. I like a lot of that, but I'm not against that. I'm not against the newer brands. I just don't know as much about them and I haven't worked on the new ones. But no, I'm. I'm not against Botox.
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Avery Woods
Okay, good to know. I'm like, glad we got that out of the way. What's your thoughts on alcohol consumption? Because I. I hear different opinions based on whatever country you're in.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah.
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Avery Woods
For. I'll give you an example. My dad is 69 years old. He's turning 70 in August. He's in incredible shape. You think he's like 45. It's crazy. He'll run 10 miles every morning. He was a marathon runner. He'll drink non alcoholic beer. He doesn't drink any alcohol unless he's overseas. And he said it's because when he's in Europe and he drinks the wine because it doesn't have a lot of the additive chemicals that America has, he doesn't get a hangover or a headache. So what's your thoughts on alcohol and also different parts of the world where they drink what they drink?
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Dr. Christina Raum
Well, have your dad try clean spirits.
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Avery Woods
Oh, he would love to.
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Dr. Christina Raum
He won't get a head.
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Avery Woods
He's very in tune with his body. He's incredible.
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Dr. Christina Raum
If you put a couple of drops or dropper in clean spirits, then it's blocking the sugar and carbs. So I always. I don't like to drink a lot. Because you gain weight.
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Avery Woods
Yeah, no, that's.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah, I get a headache from wine unless I'm overseas too. Unless I use the clean spirits in it. Clean spirits. Also, if the wine has gone bad or not as good, it'll make it taste better. But anyway, for me, I only drink tequila and I only usually drink Casas or reposado. Really, because I know about their process. I will drink Caso amigos. I'm sure George Clooney would like me saying that.
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Avery Woods
Yeah.
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Dr. Christina Raum
But the reason I do that. And you can drink it straight and I don't like it. I just put a little bit of lime and lemon in it and then maybe a little bit of agave. The reason for that is I know the whole process. And your sipping tequilas typically won't even give you a hangover. And actually it has health benefits as well. Because of the cactus. Yeah. I don't promote like drinking five glasses or I usually never have more than two because again, I worry about weight. I have to get up the next day. But definitely that's something that I do drink. Do I feel guilty? Not at all. Because it's not hurting my body now. If I drink an excess, I would. And the other types of alcohol, for whatever reason, I can't drink without getting a headache or feeling bad. So I just don't drink anything else.
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Avery Woods
What's your thoughts on marijuana consumption?
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Dr. Christina Raum
So I am probably a pretty good person to ask about that. If you look at my history, I've worked all over the world. I've worked on numerous projects that had to do with children and brain tumors. Novartis actually launched a drug. When I was involved, I think I was at Biogen and I sat next to the CEO of Novartis. We were going over to Australia for seizures for children. That they would inhale, you know, three or four times to help them with the seizures, and they had such a high success rate. I've seen children with brain tumors have effects. And I know some of the scientists, I'm a little involved in the Human Genome Project, and they know that colon, for example, colon cancer and different types of GI issues, certain types of soluble CBD or THD are helping. Right, because cancer, like a colon cancer, is like a wound. It's kind of like skin cancer, and the wound won't heal. So we know that that can help heal recreationally. I just know children, people shouldn't do it if you're male until you are 24, 25, 26, because of the hippocampus of the brain, you just don't want it harming it. And there's some studies that show it can. CBD just got a bunch of hits negatively in the medical community saying it can hurt people. I personally think in a lot of aspects, it's better for people than alcohol.
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Avery Woods
100%.
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Dr. Christina Raum
I agree with that. I also have to tell you this. When people have cancer and autoimmune disorders, it's one of the things that can really help them. So you choose, do you want to do be on a chemotherapy and go to the hospital because you can't keep food down, or do you want to take THC in something so that you don't end up in the hospital? And I know people that are mothers have a hard time hearing me say this. I'm not trying to promote it. I'm being honest scientifically about what I feel. And I've read all the research. I've been involved in some of it, and I don't think it's the most horrible thing. I think anything in great excess, even if you ate 100 apples. Right. It's just not good for your body.
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Avery Woods
Yeah, I was gonna give an example that you just took words right out of my mouth. And that was working as a nurse, actually. Remember doing my clinicals in nursing school, because I worked with children, so obviously that was not accessible to our patients. But when I was shadowing adult nurses on a cancer unit, they would. This was actually before it was legal, and you were able to get it in a lot of states, but it was in a capsule, and they were able to give it to their patients, and that was what gave them an appetite. And I just remember being so inspired by these nurses because the second they had an appetite for whatever food they wanted, they'd be like, I want a blizzard from Dairy Queen. I Want a big Mac from McDonald's. The nurses would go drive their personal cars and get whatever they wanted for them because they could finally keep food down. And I think there are so many negative effects of alcohol.
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Dr. Christina Raum
100%.
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Avery Woods
And last year I did a three month streak with no alcohol. I didn't drink a sip of alcohol and. But when I have ever tried marijuana, which usually is an edible at night to help me sleep because I have really bad insomnia, I feel like it changed my life because it gave me a solid night's rest. I didn't feel like I needed alcohol to make me sleepy or if I was going out to have a good time or party with friends. I remember my husband and I even went to Vegas with some of our friends. I didn't have a lick of alcohol and I felt totally okay. But I feel like it's also a little bit safer when it comes to consciousness, especially when people are out. Like we've seen the effects of alcohol and it can be tragic. And I feel like marijuana has helped people that struggle maybe with drinking, that they feel like they're maybe participating in a social activity or I don't know, they're high, maybe makes them feel buzzed like alcohol.
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Dr. Christina Raum
You know, I don't know why it all makes sense and I don't know why it's become such a religious topic.
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Avery Woods
Sure.
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Dr. Christina Raum
If you really look historically and I'm sure you have at marijuana in this country and why it was not legalized and why alcohol was knowing that alcohol causes liver damage, kidney damage, brain damage, fetal birth disorders. Right. That's why I'm scientifically I'm so. I wish people would understand. I have to be careful because legally it's not legalized in a lot of states. Delta 8 and Delta 9 are which I would prefer people not use that I would prefer them to just really like it's legal here. Right. So anything you're buying, you know, it's been tested, you know, they know what's in it. It's typically not a Delta 8 or Delta 9 or if it is, they'll tell you. But the reason I don't like that is there's a synthetic component added. So if you can have stuff naturally it's better. But I just, I had a patient that was very, very sick and they were going into the hospital. It was when I was doing an investigator sponsored trial and they just couldn't get better. And I actually had a family member that went through this and they were able to take gummy with THC and not Go into the hospital. And I kind of mentioned it earlier. Do you know how much money that saved? Do you know how much anxiety and stress? Like. Because the truth is, when you're sick, you know this from being in the hospital with these children. You can die because you can't eat. Right?
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Avery Woods
Absolutely.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And so for me, there's no excuse that people have this closed mind about it and they're so judgmental about it when they don't understand the scientific facts surrounding this.
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Avery Woods
Yeah, it's. It's interesting because my husband was a police officer, like I said, for 12 years. And his last few years, he was a sergeant, so he was in charge of a squad. And before he left, we had joked, because he joined law when he was. I think he joined law enforcement or the academy at age 21. And he grew up with a pastor as a father. He had never tried marijuana his entire life until he was 35. And I'll never forget the first time he ever smoked marijuana. He said, I can't believe I was required to take people to jail for marijuana. But alcohol consumption was fine. That was not something that was an arrestable offense under certain circumstances. Obviously, DUI isn't counted in that, but he always says that, and he's like, it's crazy how warped we were kind of trained to be because it was an illegal substance. Right. But comparing it to drugs like cocaine, ecstasy is just completely different.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Well, they say it's a gateway. So my question is, so alcohol's not a gateway? Like, I'm really curious about it.
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Avery Woods
And you know what? I have friends that have battled addictions or have spouses that have battled addictions. Addictions. And they always say, alcohol is what makes me want to do cocaine. Alcohol is what makes me want to do X, Y and Z drug.
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Dr. Christina Raum
You know, in some of the rehabilitation centers now, they will actually. And I actually, there's one of the most prominent universities here. I ran pain studies as a researcher in the United States. I'm not going to name which one it is. It's one of the top five. Let's just say that Ivy League schools, they told their patients with pain to not do the pills that you got from the pharmacy, but to do the stuff they could buy legally from dispensary.
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Avery Woods
Yeah.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And they said night and day about people getting better and getting off pain meds. That was the trigger right there. The marijuana helped them be able to stop being addicted to pain meds. And for me, that's so important because the pain crisis, the fentanyl crisis is so Huge. That's why the legalization of it for me. I can't spend my life fighting the legalization, you know, because that's not my mission. But for me, it's been so bizarre how it's been handled because it's really helped so many people that have been sick before.
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Avery Woods
Marijuana was before you're able to buy in a dispensary. I was working as a nurse in the PICU and I had two kids. I won't say their ages because I won't violate hipaa, but they were teenagers and I worked one shift and I had a patient come in and he was at a party, and they had illegally purchased marijuana because, again, it wasn't legal. And they were also underage, not knowing it was lice with fentanyl. And he ended up passing of a hypoxic brain injury. And the next day I came in and I had another patient, one year younger than this other patient that went to the same school, bought from the same dealer. He also died of a hypoxic brain injury.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah, I have a problem with people buying from dealers because you have no idea what's happening.
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Avery Woods
Totally. And what you're saying about the fentanyl, it's so real right now in this country and with so many different prescription drugs. And I feel like it is a way to help people if you're doing it the right way. You know, if you're purchasing from us.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Okay. I got my kid, my. I bought my children that book.
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Avery Woods
Yeah.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Have you. Have you read the book?
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Avery Woods
I've never read the book, but I love books, so I will.
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Dr. Christina Raum
I haven't watched the movie, and let me tell you why. I've read the book twice, and it's devastating to me.
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Avery Woods
It is.
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Dr. Christina Raum
It's. I think it happened here in la, right? In San Diego.
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Avery Woods
It's somewhere local around here.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah, it is. Newport Beach, I think. Yeah.
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Avery Woods
Yeah. And, you know, everyone should read the book. It's such an important book to. To read, movie to watch, however you, you know, choose to consume that. But I think it's so important for people to understand that you can come from a totally normal family, you can have all the resources you need, all the love and support, and sometimes it's just not enough to battle addiction, you know, and that book is such a great example of that. But if you ever. If you ever have the chance. I think the movie is incredible.
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Dr. Christina Raum
The book, I cried off, you know, back and forth through the book because of the parents and what they went through, and, you know, how devastating it was. He did everything. And I just keep thinking about his little heart and still think of him. I mean, he went to prostitution. He did everything just because of drugs.
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Avery Woods
Totally.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And that's where I think it is important. I've never seen, personally, I've never been around someone that was so addicted to, like, THC personally, where I've seen any of that. I've seen a lot of people in the other areas destroy their lives totally.
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Avery Woods
Okay, we're kind of running out of time, so I want to talk to you about one more thing because it just piques my interest. What's your thoughts on. On breast implants?
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Dr. Christina Raum
So I have mixed thoughts about breast implants. I think I'm one of these people that believe women should do what they want to do with their body. I think they have to understand the consequences. I don't think breast implants are horrible. I think you have to have the right doctor, you have to have the right breast implants. You need to research what's best for your body. There's all kinds of genetics out there now that are available, but I don't think anyone should do Botox or breast implants because their husband wants them to or someone else. I was criticized again on another podcast because I said I think breast implants are okay. I actually think what you want to do with your body is okay, but you have to understand the risk. And there is a Risk. With any surgery, there is a risk, whether you have silicone or whatever you're using in your body. But I know, you know how you always hear the negative about everything. But the truth is, there's a lot of people that have breast implants for 30, 40, 50 years. They don't have anything. You don't have to have them redone every 10 years. In fact, if that's what you're hearing, that's not the facts that are known. There's all kinds of new data that's come out, and people should really just be really aware of where the breast implant is coming from, who the doctor is, what their rate of revisions are, because that's important. And then they need to make a decision for themselves because, you know, you've got this one life. And for women, I really think we want to look beautiful. I think. And however you want to look beautiful is fantastic. I love the fact that a lot of women aren't having them anymore, and I feel like women are beautiful whether they have them or not. But I truly have always believed this. It's not my decision. It's an individual decision. And I don't think it's the worst thing you can do to your body. And some people, it changes their life in a positive because they have problems with their body and they're not happy. And for me, happiness is such an important part of life. It's as important as your health. Right?
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Avery Woods
Totally.
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Dr. Christina Raum
So that's. That's how I feel about it.
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Avery Woods
Yeah. To be transparent. After I weaned my daughter, who my youngest, I breastfed her for 14 months. And I mean, girl, my nipples are touching my ankles. Like, we can tie those babies in a knot. So I.
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Dr. Christina Raum
That was good.
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Avery Woods
I lifted them right up.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Because you're like me. You've had four.
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Avery Woods
Yeah, well, just breastfeeding alone, because I was very busty. Like, I was a 34 DD. We were very busty on my dad's side. My aunts had boob reductions. And so after I breastfed my kids, just gravity, you know? And so I got a lift, and I got an implant that was actually smaller than my boobs were before I had kids. And what it did, it kind of filled that, like, loose skin that I had. But I obviously was very concerned about breast implant illness. My plastic surgeon is. She's an incredible woman. That's just. She's a prodigy. She's graduated Cornell Pre Med at 20 years old.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Wow.
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Avery Woods
Like, just an incredible human. And she knew my concerns. And the implant company is required to Call you prior to your surgery. So if people are not getting that call, by the way, you need to talk to them. But I loved how open they were to me, asking questions about breast implant illness. And they had talked about the gummy implant and how that was recalled because that had a direct link to lymphoma. I did silicone because it's just the cleanest, you know, way to do it is kind of how I thought about it. Trying to be as sterile as possible. And gummy implants aren't offered anymore. But I liked that I had the option to kind of talk with them about it.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Right. I remember when the gummy implants came out, and I was never okay with that, to be honest. I thought the silicone was the best. I was lucky because I had four children. But I'm really muscular. You can't tell as much now, but I was kind of built like a boy, but I was always like a 34, 30, 36B. I still am. But it did change. I want to say this to women. It does change the way your body is when you have children. Like, my stomach, like, everything. And again, I want to go back to this. And there's different things I've done to my body. Like, I wanted to do liposuction and like a tummy tuck. I have an amazing doctor. He was like, no way are we doing it. Christina, you're not 21 anymore. You're just gonna have to do sit ups. And so. But some people need it. And I would encourage women not to be jealous of other women that have it, not to talk bad about it. I think it's amazing. I think whatever women want to do to look better. Like, I've done different tightening techniques for my skin so many times in my life that were lasers. And it was just what I chose to do. And it was expensive. Like, I'm gonna say some of the stuff I've done is more expensive than if I would have had, like a facelift. Right?
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Avery Woods
Totally.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Because I really want. Like, I've used exosomes, I've used B cells. That's another treatment on your face that's really. You're going to see a lot of stuff about in the near future because they. There's a guy named Dr. Todd and he redirects the cells to where they need to go to live and thrive. And some of those procedures, when they're cutting edge, are very expensive. And again, I'm just pro women. I really am. I feel like we've hurt each other a lot.
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Avery Woods
Oh, yeah.
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Dr. Christina Raum
And I when people say to me, men have really hurt women because we've kind of gone backwards a little bit in some areas, I always say, well, women have hurt women too, so we have to change it.
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Avery Woods
I fully agree. And I think when you have a large platform and the majority of your audience is women, women can be so mean.
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Dr. Christina Raum
I have a large.
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Avery Woods
And I think what you said is so real about, you know, there are so many unrealistic beauty standards now because of the amount of work that people have had done and not shaming that work. I've had work done and I've been very honest about it. And that work has always been held against me. You know, where people say, well, you can't share your diet and exercise routine because you've had work done. But if I didn't live a healthy lifestyle, I wouldn't look the way I am. That's just how it is. You can get lipo 30 times over, but if you're eating like shit and you're not working out, it's not going to be that way. But you, you see some of these women on social media and celebrities that have had so much work done that don't talk about it, and I'm not saying that they have to to, but women look at them and say, I'm supposed to look like that. It's not realistic.
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Dr. Christina Raum
No. Like, I've done coolsculpta. I've done motique, I've done softwave. I could go on and on. And if people want to criticize me, I mean, I think even our own families criticize us, right?
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Avery Woods
Totally.
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Dr. Christina Raum
I don't care. I don't criticize what they do. And I think women are beautiful however they decide to look. But I will say this. It is unrealistic to say you haven't had anything done and then you look the way you look. And then someone I'll just use my age has a lot of wrinkles because they've never done anything. I'm very fortunate. I was just with my mother. She's 83, she looks fantastic. And I was just with Martha Stewart. And so I said to my mom, Martha Stewart was so beautiful, mom, like you, except for she's had plastic surgery. And my mom goes, I have not had plastic surgery. And I said, no, I know they look different, but they were both beautiful. And I don't think anyone should be upset either way. And I will say that, you know, for me, as I age, it is important how I look. I'm not against any of those things, and I have been criticized like you for the statements that I've made. When I say, like I've developed a skincare called Ella Pure with peptides. And then someone hears that I've had a laser done on my face, I've had to give up worrying about what they think.
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Avery Woods
Yeah.
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Dr. Christina Raum
You know, it's just, yeah, I do use lasers. I do do different things on my face. I have done Botox and I'm sorry if it upsets people, but it's my life, it's my body and I'm gonna live my life.
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Avery Woods
Totally. I love that mentality. What do you have coming up that you're looking forward to that you're planning on the next few years that you can share?
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Dr. Christina Raum
We are producing and testing the clothing line. I'd like to have it. We launched, we were doing a fashion show with Burberry, but we switched to Lafayette and the textile. Some of the CEOs of some of these major companies want to use my textile. So I'm testing it in South Carolina. I'm excited about that because I want to get protective clothing out there. Our environment is not always safe and I want to protect babies and children from what's going on with the pollution and heavy metals. And then I am in the process of launching different things that have to do with like areas of oncology with doctors. I have a partner that we're looking at launching just for women that have cancer. I have an Omega that I'm working on and a vegan collagen which I've already produced before. But I think a lot of people do, you know, they don't want anything that has to do with an animal. Right. So that's important. And then I have a whole line of products that I'm working on where I have literally am cleaning all of the product. I'm doing it right now in a three step system and we test it. But I'm raising the bar on that because I really want to produce things for the world that will not just make them look better and feel better, but I do want to reverse aging and I do want to help with longevity. I want people to live a great life. So that along with our genetic test we launched, I think we're going to see a really good future for people. I'm looking forward to helping people get rid of the fear and anxiety. One out of every five children will be born with mental health issues or cognitive functioning issues. And I think some of the scientific inventions that I have patents on that I'm doing research on will help Those children. And I'm really looking forward to that because of my own children. The anxiety is just so high. Right. And I want to help people with that.
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Avery Woods
That's amazing. I really enjoy getting to know you. And I, after chatting with you, I want to buy all of your products. I'm just going to be honest with you. I'm going to try everything and I'm going to live to 130.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah.
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Avery Woods
Well, you're a fascinating person. You're so smart, you're inspiring as a working mom. So I really appreciate you being here.
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Dr. Christina Raum
I love talking to you. I'm inspired by you and it's great that we're both from medicine or science and we're both really trying to make positive changes. Thank you so much.
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Avery Woods
Thank you. And where can people find you?
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Dr. Christina Raum
You can find me on Dr. Christinaraum and we're on all the social media platforms.
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Avery Woods
Amazing.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Yeah.
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Avery Woods
Well, thank you so much for being here.
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Dr. Christina Raum
Thank you.
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Avery Woods
Cheers, guys.
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Dr. Christina Raum
That's a hard question.
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Avery Woods
Something that you can strive for.
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I'm able to do anything I set my mind to. You're confident in yourself and you believe in yourself. Stuff that you could achieve. I feel at Sarah, anything is possible when you're more than confident.
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