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Fran
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Fran
what's up everyone?
Ria
It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Happy Friday everybody. This podcast is presented by Microsoft 365 copilot. Before we get into all of the drama, because there is a ton today, we need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives organized right now. And that is Microsoft 365 copilot.
Fran
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Ria
Exactly. And you can learn more at m365copilot.com work happy Friday everybody. How are we feeling today?
Fran
Good. I'm excited for the weekend. It's one of my oldest friends weddings this weekend, so I'm very excited. And my parents are going to be up for it too, so I haven't seen them in a while. So get to see them.
Ria
Nice.
Fran
And yeah, it's going to be nice. I mean we just, we're getting like July and April right now. It's 85 it's been 85 degrees every day this week, which is lovely. And we'll just go back to.
Noah
I. I'll agree with Fran. I don't want to be the. The. Like, this is too much.
Fran
This is a drastic jump.
Noah
Well, here's the thing. It's the AC thing.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
Yeah.
Noah
In the buildings, they turned.
Fran
They f. They had. They had no choice. I think enough people were like, ah,
Noah
wait, they turned yours on?
Fran
Yeah, they. They turned our AC on. I think enough. I think enough of my building was like, we can't have this.
Ria
We.
Fran
We can't have this much.
Noah
An ice pack on my neck.
Fran
Oh.
Ria
Oh, my God.
Noah
I. I was dying.
Ria
I couldn't breathe.
Noah
I was hitting my inhalers.
Ria
Every fight right now.
Noah
What?
Ria
You happy to be?
Noah
I said I might sleep in the studio tonight.
Fran
Well, just think back. Just think only a few more days because next week is. The low is going to be 35 degrees.
Noah
But I got to go all in May. Like, I don't think they do till the end of May. My building.
Ria
You could do it.
Fran
I have faith that it is hard when it's. When it's that late in the year. I think it was just like, so many hot days in a row that just. It wasn't gonna. It wasn't gonna work. So.
Ria
But I.
Fran
Which is nice. Cause I did get to sleep with air conditioning on.
Ria
Nice.
Fran
For the first time in a while. But no, other than that, I'm. I'm good. I'm looking forward to the weekend.
Ria
Yeah, me too. Matt's birthday's on Saturday. I'm so excited. Got some surprises. I booked a hotel with a couple's massage and then a dinner reservation for a restaurant he's really been wanting to go to. He talks about it, and this is, like, the first time I was able to keep this in because I've held onto this for, like, two months now that I had this reservation. And every day I think about telling him. Every day I tease it a little bit more. And we are finally, finally there. No.
Noah
So are you not worried about this being out tomorrow?
Ria
No.
Fran
He knows they're going to have dinner, but not.
Noah
Oh, okay.
Ria
Yeah. No, he's not gonna listen to this episode tomorrow. I don't think.
Noah
Marty. Really good episode.
Fran
She also didn't say what the restaurant was.
Noah
Well, I feel like if he heard that, he'd probably know. No, like, no, no.
Fran
I'm saying I got a big reservation for you.
Noah
Said he really wants to go.
Ria
He does, but there's, like, a couple of spots he really wants to go to. So it's. But I have held on, and I haven't said it, and I'm so proud of myself because, wow. There's been a couple of times where we've been laying in bed where I've been like.
Fran
I'm shocked, too. Do you want to know?
Ria
No, I'm not telling you, but I want to tell you, but no. Maybe we can look at the menu. Oh, no. So I'm really excited, but I just.
Fran
No one loves dangling a surprise more than you.
Ria
I know. The both of us, we do it to each other, and then I'm like,
Fran
I get a surprise. Oh, get it? Oh, I got a surprise.
Ria
Do you know, the last time we talked about it together, we left you. We were with you. We left. I said, do you want to know?
Fran
He said, no.
Ria
He said, stop.
Fran
We went to get breakfast in Minneapolis, and she showed me the restaurant from across, like, she handed me her phone and was like, this is the restaurant. He was sitting right there next to us. Like, she loves.
Ria
It's like.
Fran
It's like this hair. Doesn't that smell good? Ah, you can't eat it yet. I love building up the hype. I love it.
Ria
But it's finally here. I've held on for so long.
Fran
I'm so proud of myself.
Ria
But, yeah, the most, you know, nice massage, a couple more surprises, and it'll be great. So I am so, so excited. I love celebrating people and their birthdays, and he just deserves it. So I'm just. I'm so excited. And honestly, I really want to go to this restaurant, too. So, like, obviously, I. Cause he.
Fran
Well, it's a win for both.
Ria
Well, it's a win for both. He's like, wait, but are you. Are you excited to.
Fran
I'm like, oh, my God, of course.
Ria
And I was with two of my friends yesterday, and one of them was like, oh, there's only one place in the city that I really want to go to right now. And said, the restaurant. And I was like, that's where I'm taking Matt on Saturday. And I was, like, bragging about having a reservation, because I was like, ha, ha. I've had it for two months.
Noah
But, yeah, well, now I'm curious where it is.
Ria
I'll tell you after.
Fran
Yeah, yeah, don't worry. She'll tell you. Don't worry.
Ria
I have no problem telling you after. But I am. I'm really so, so excited. And then we go to Italy on Wednesday. I'm so excited.
Fran
I'm so excited for you guys. You're gonna have the best time.
Ria
We really are. Like, I just. And thank you to all of our lovely listeners who let me know that Florence is also known for their marble paper, because paper being the one year anniversary gift.
Fran
And I said, oh, I wish it
Ria
was leather because of Florence. But turns out they're known for their paper as well.
Fran
Right?
Ria
Obviously.
Fran
Of course.
Ria
Well, of course.
Fran
And then, I mean, even that you could even, you know, there's paper in a leather bound book.
Ria
Yes. But somebody also gave me a great idea that they said that their parents framed a menu from wherever they went for their anniversary and they've had it forever now. So wherever we go for dinner on the day of our anniversary, we're gonna ask for a menu so that we could frame that for. That's a good idea, too. Yeah. That's cute. Yeah, it's so cute. Right? I'm so excited.
Fran
My parents actually had that. My parents had that too, but it wasn't because of the anniversary. But like the restaurant they went to on their honeymoon.
Ria
Yes.
Fran
They had a big menu framed.
Ria
I love that.
Fran
Forever. I don't know where it went, but somewhere.
Ria
Somewhere.
Fran
So sweet.
Ria
I love that. So, yeah. I'm so excited. But besides all of that. Listen, yesterday, walking around the city, you know, with my friend, waiting for some drama to drop. When's it gonna happen? Sit down to get my nails done. Boom. Yeah, boom. Alex Cooper posts on her Instagram story about Briana chicken fry.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
And right before that, you passed by the window of the nail place and you were headed into a facial. We waved to each other like, we never see each other. It was like we were like jumping up and down, like. And Fran texted me, like, why did we just act like we never see each other? It was super exciting. I said, it's like seeing.
Fran
There's something about seeing you also out and about in the city, because it's like, you're not. You're never out.
Ria
My nails done in the city?
Fran
No, no, you're in the city. It's either you're coming to work or we're like getting a meal somewhere.
Ria
Yeah. Going to dinner. But I usually got my nails done in Jersey, but I had to try your nail spot because my nail place is booked up. I don't know what's going on, but I had to try the nail spot. So I see you, I'm like, ah. Then all of a sudden, like, five minutes later, this drops. And I'm thinking in my head, oh, my God, you know, I can't use my hands. That much right now. But I could see poor Fran is in a facial.
Fran
And I had no idea, no idea
Ria
that this is happening.
Fran
And I had like, you know, just after a good facial and you just have like, you feel kind of drunk when you get up because you're sort of like, I'm dozing off a little bit. I without fail will be like partially asleep when I haven't been wearing it as much for when I did wear my aura ring very consistently when I'd go in for a facial, I'd be like, did you take a nap? Like, it would register me sleeping.
Ria
Wow.
Fran
So I get up, I'm like. And I look at my phone. I was like, ah. Oh my God. I stopped. I took one step outside the door and just like stopped on the sidewalk and had to read what everybody was sending. So I was like, holy shit.
Ria
Right? It just. A lot's going on midday and now It's Thursday around 3pm and we're sitting here and we're going. No video from Alex Earl yet?
Fran
No, no.
Ria
So you know, if it happens over the weekend, everyone will hear about it on Monday because at this point we don't have anything.
Fran
I know. And she keeps posting, doing all these other activities. So she's at brunch today, honey. Where's the video? She must be busy. She's in the office. She's brunch. She's walking the dog, you know.
Ria
Yeah. And it doesn't look like she care. Like she's not bothered because everybody is hounding her. Like, give us. Tell us if she posts another tik tok that is not about this. Which she hasn't. All the comments are going to be
Fran
like, okay, but yeah, you know, where's the.
Noah
Has to be like painful for Alex Cooper? Like because you're just kind of like on edge.
Ria
Oh, she's making sweat.
Noah
That's what I'm saying.
Ria
Yeah.
Noah
That. That could be part of it.
Ria
No one. I have really just dug too deep into the Drake vs. Kendrick of this all. Sending each other lyrics of like, who's who, you know, drop, drop, drop.
Noah
I think I'm ready to lock in that Alex Cooper is Drake in this scenario and Alex Earl is.
Ria
We'll have to do a deeper dive on the lyrics. I mean.
Fran
Yeah. And also it really depends on what Earl says.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Because it's like everyone was. So when the Drake and Kendrick, everyone was going back and forth. It really wasn't until.
Noah
But it.
Fran
What was the one song Kendrick was
Ria
like, you're a pedophile.
Fran
Yes.
Ria
And Then and then, like, it was
Fran
like everyone was kind of like, oh, Kendrick's got nothing. This isn't. And then it was like, boom.
Noah
But there wasn't the element of, like, it felt as if the whole industry was against Drake. And it's like, Drake's been top. He's been the top guy. Alex Cooper's been the top woman in this industry. And now it's like, it's not just Alex Earl's the main one. She's Kendrick. But we got other people coming out of the woodwork too, being like, Noah.
Ria
Noah said that Brianna was metro boomin. I mean, because when some. Because metro boomin. When he threw his two cents in and Drake was like, shut up.
Noah
Yeah, that's basically Alex was like, shut up. Back to Alex Earl.
Ria
It's just crazy. It's crazy. All right, well, we'll get into the topics. We gotta get into that.
Fran
Oh, there is one more thing that I want to bring up and, you know, falls in line with a little Friday energy on a Friday presented by Acorns. But Joe Jonas has gotten himself into the vlog game. I don't know if you've noticed, but he's been posting YouTube videos. They're like short, five minute, seven minute vlogs. He did one for Coachella with Teddy Swims, and he did one for being on or in Orlando with Demi. And it's like him getting ready to go meet Demi. Do sound like he's a camera guy. Someone's filming. He's always with somebody.
Guest
You.
Ria
You said this wasn't important news. As if this isn't the most important news. I've heard all you're looking at me.
Fran
I'm shocked that you're so shocked by this.
Ria
I'm not shocked. I'm shocked that I didn't know. Oh, no, I didn't see.
Fran
He is vlogging.
Ria
I am a Joe Jonas.
Fran
I know.
Ria
I gotta be honest.
Fran
You're gonna love his vlogs.
Ria
I really. I. I have to come out right now as a Joe Jonas. Stan. I think we, like, knew that it was there. Yeah. But, like, I really am. I mean, man. And you know what he does? He does this thing. He does this thing, you know, this thing where he throws his chin up and his neck comes out a little bit. And he did it in the TikTok with Demi. The I'm Mr. Charisma.
Fran
Pablo Escobar. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ria
And then he comes out,
Fran
he does
Ria
this thing with his shoulders and his neck, and it's like, I'm Joe Jonas.
Fran
In this, like, Joe Jonas swag.
Ria
No, I, I like, just gave myself chills thinking about him.
Fran
Like, my God, Joe Jonas swag.
Guest
Right?
Noah
He's singing the national anthem at.
Ria
Yes. Like, it truly doesn't matter how short he is because he just has.
Fran
He has all of it.
Ria
He has the swag. He. He really does. I was walking around the city with Emma and Julie from comicsbyslubs yesterday and they were like, you know who the ideal person to run into right now would be?
Guest
Joe Jonas.
Ria
Joe Jonas. I said, absolutely it would be Joe Jonas because, you know, I would hope he would maybe remember me. I don't know though. They meet so many people and.
Fran
But we've. No, he's.
Ria
We've had a lot of time with them and they were like, oh, he follows the account. That'd be perfect. If we ran into Joe Jonas right
Fran
now, I don't think he'd look at you and be like, who are you again? He'd be like, I don't know. Do you remember Jonas Kahn?
Ria
Yeah. Do you remember when we hosted Jonas Con? He just got that.
Fran
That. Yes.
Ria
And it's natural. You know, you would think maybe he's
Fran
trying hard, but he's not. That's naturally. It's a natural suave.
Ria
That is naturally Joe.
Fran
And he's always had it.
Noah
This is average Joe.
Ria
You're right.
Fran
That is just average.
Ria
Yeah. Fucking Joe.
Fran
He's always had it. Joe Jonas.
Ria
A lot of charisma.
Fran
Yeah. He's got a. He's got it all. And he was joking about his girlfriend in the. In the vlog and he was laughing about. He did make a send it on joke. He was like, I'm going with Demi to perform Friends for Change. He was like, haha. Just kidding.
Ria
He's very in tune.
Fran
He's in. He's in the know. He's an Internet guy. He gets all the jokes.
Ria
Humorous.
Fran
Yes. And there's like a.
Ria
Not only is he hot. Yeah.
Fran
He's funny and he's funny and he's
Ria
got a great voice. And not enough people appreciate his voice because when he tries to do solo shit, it's like no one cares. And to me that's is rude. And by the way, I don't care either. And so like, I'm talking. I. I am talking to myself.
Fran
Yes.
Ria
You know what I mean? I don't know. I can go on and on about this, but I'll cut myself short.
Fran
No, I. Yes. And it is funny. He joked in like him doing the WWE national anthem. I think he had said originally his team or whoever was like, showed it to him and they were like, well, this is. This is like a pass, right? And he was like, what? No, like, I'm doing this.
Ria
Did he do it, like, with a lot of.
Fran
No, he hasn't done it yet. It's this weekend, I think.
Ria
Do you think he's going to do, like, a body?
Noah
I feel like they're going to like. Yeah, he's got to be involved somehow. Yeah. I don't know.
Fran
I don't know what's happening, but it's. He was telling Big Rob about it. He was like, you got to come because I'm. I'm. I'm doing this. And they were laughing about it.
Ria
Isn't it funny when the team hits you with like, this is an obvious no. And they're like, wait, yeah.
Fran
You're like, wait, I'm sorry.
Ria
Obvious. Yes.
Fran
Yeah, yeah.
Noah
I feel like that's happened with us before.
Ria
It has. You were like, wait, wait, wait. Backtrack. Absolutely.
Fran
I would do that 100%. So that. That gave me a. That gave me a good giggle.
Ria
Damn. You mind if I step out or watch?
Fran
Yeah, yeah. They're short. It's like a seven minute video.
Ria
I'll be back. Yeah.
Fran
It's like him. Him with Demi, you know, he gets to sing the lyrics on the line, you know, Our love was tragical. He's like, that's not a word, is it?
Ria
Tragical. Oh, my gosh.
Fran
That's the word.
Ria
That's. I said, snot boy, my nose. Tragical.
Fran
Our love was tragical yeah, we had it all destined to fall Tragical.
Ria
That is crazy. Yeah.
Fran
And he was like, that's definitely not a word. Right.
Ria
In the words of Harry Styles. That's an insane lyric.
Fran
Yes. But it worked at the time. When they wrote the song in 2008, I think they just had to make it up.
Ria
I think you do have kind of a past to make up words when you're. When you're making songs, though.
Fran
I agree.
Ria
You know, who's.
Fran
Sometimes you just want it to a
Ria
certain degree, of course.
Fran
But I think that you need something
Ria
to flow and you just want to throw in an Al or an Ly
Noah
or it's like the pronunciation of it people really, like.
Ria
Right. You know, like a rapper could change the pronunciation to make things rhyme. I think Eminem has done that a ton. Nicki Minaj has done it a ton. Lil Wayne has done it a ton. It's just like, to make things tragical
Fran
really is a word, though.
Ria
Tragical.
Fran
Yeah, it.
Ria
You know what? Now that you say it, it definitely is a word. Well, it's just like.
Fran
I think it's like the way it's said in the song. You're like, all love was tragic. You don't like, necessarily think of it that way, but it's just tragic defined as a variant or archaic form of tragic.
Ria
Wait, but what about. Oh, tragically it is a word.
Fran
Yes. It is less common in modern usage than tragic because it's like. You would use it the same way as tragic.
Ria
Wow, that's tragical.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
I'm gonna start using that.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
Oh, my God, that outfit is tragic.
Fran
Tragical.
Ria
Yeah. God, that haircut is tragical.
Fran
Such a good song.
Ria
Tragical. Hallelujah. Oh, damn.
Fran
But yeah, I just wanted to mention that I'm. I'm locked into Joe Jonas's vlogs and he's. He's. He's in the game. He's doing it. He's. He's got like the effects. Little short, you know, Nothing, nothing wrong. Five minutes, seven minutes.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
I wonder if it's on. It's probably on his own channel, right? For. Hey, I'm Joe Jonas. Welcome back to my channel.
Ria
For Matt's birthday, I'm going to be like, God, got us a hotel room. Step inside.
Fran
I was actually on the Jones walk in YouTube.
Ria
It's just Joe Jonas's vlogs. This is what we're doing tonight, honey.
Fran
It's on. It's The Jonas Brothers YouTube. But the vlogs are just what I did today. Smiley face. That's what each vlog is called.
Ria
Oh, my God. He's the new David Dobrik.
Fran
Yeah. Look at him just looking in the camera. And Ben, he's going. He's going, wait, let's see.
Ria
I am booked and busy later for 14 minutes.
Fran
Yeah. He's literally the new David Dobrik.
Ria
Yeah. Yep.
Guest
Yeah. Yeah.
Fran
Everyone was like, I'm loving this vlog era. My king. I, Joe, keep vlogging.
Ria
I don't know what's going on, but it's almost bringing me to tears because I haven't had somebody in a long time that I could watch on YouTube's vlogs.
Fran
Like the old, the old way of vlogging is. It's gone.
Ria
It's gone. It's TikTok now. But like, I, for a long about it, spent a lot of time on YouTube watching people's vlogs.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
You know, I was kind of like depressed and whatever and just like, you know, found myself watching way Too many David Dobrik vlogs at one point. You know, I applaud anyone. But now. But it's been a while.
Fran
It's hard, really.
Ria
Like got into some vlogs.
Fran
What I'm saying it's hard to do. I said I applaud anyone. That still really grinds on the vlogs because it feels less. Like you get less recognition for vlogging. For vlogging. Like the views don't show. Reflect all the hard work you put into the. Into the editing of the vlogs. When people just like put short things out on TikTok and then they like blow up and get millions of views, you know, then you go and you watch someone's vlog and you're like, wow, that was so great and well done and edited. But it has like 20,000 views. Meanwhile, like the clip that they put out from it has like a million. You know.
Ria
How many?
Fran
One.
Ria
How many views Joe have?
Fran
Six. 65.
Ria
That's it for Joe Jonas.
Fran
65K. It did come out a day ago.
Ria
Right, but that's like they want us
Noah
to be doing vlogs.
Ria
Yeah.
Noah
So John is 65K.
Ria
Yeah. And the Giants can't even break. Break 100.
Fran
Excuse me? The one from Coachella. Hundred 24K.
Noah
That seems low though. Like, to be at Coachella as Joe
Ria
Jonas and coming out to perform with Teddi Swims. Yeah.
Fran
Guys, here's the thing.
Ria
We're not yelling at you.
Fran
We're spreading the.
Ria
Hey, honey, honey, we're not yelling at you. We're just talking in general.
Fran
I'm spreading the good word. Because neither of you knew Joe Jonas was making vlogs.
Ria
Exactly. He's not promoting it enough. Clearly.
Noah
Would Nick get more views on his vlog?
Fran
But he posted on stories.
Ria
Vlogs would be boring as all hell.
Fran
You know what? That's not even fair.
Ria
I'm kidding.
Noah
I didn't say it.
Ria
Yes, I did.
Noah
I posed a question. She said.
Ria
I said no. You said he didn't say anything. He posed. By the way, you're getting in trouble for something. I said that was.
Noah
Nicks would be boring. How dare you, Noah.
Fran
That was. That was a instigating.
Ria
No, it wasn't. I don't think so at all. I think he genuinely.
Noah
I mean, I don't think he were genuinely asking. Nick's got more followers.
Ria
I think Nick would get more views. I just think his would be more boring. He's not as.
Fran
Yeah, but Nick's not vlogging.
Ria
Nick is very.
Fran
If Nick started vlogging Nick's not vlogging.
Ria
We're just discussing the hypothetical. What? We were literally. We literally brought up the hypothetical. If he did start vlogging.
Fran
If he did start vlogging.
Ria
She's like, it doesn't matter. He's not vlogging.
Noah
Hey, he's not vlogging.
Fran
I don't know. If he did start vlogging, people would watch. Yeah. And I don't even.
Noah
They watched the first one.
Ria
I want to take back. I put a lot into it about him being. He's not. That was a joke. He's not boring as hell. He is very funny. He's low key funny. Yep. Joe is more of, like, a showman in the sense of, like, he's loudly funny, whereas Nick is a little more shy.
Noah
Like business meetings. Like, it'd be very serious.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Nick is like.
Ria
Like, he's a little bit more serious
Fran
and he doesn't want to show his full no cards. Nick's got, like, the sarcastic funny thing. Joe's, like, voted class clown.
Noah
Nick's a straight guy.
Fran
It's a different kind of humor.
Noah
Like, it's at the other guys. Like, Nick is Mark Wahlberg and Joe is Will Ferrell. You know, I'm saying I don't fully
Fran
understand the comparison, like, knowledge for the.
Noah
Nick is funny with, like, someone to bounce off of. Like, with his straight act.
Ria
Yes, yes, yes. Like, Nick is funny when he's making fun of Kevin. And yes, I had to pull Kevin into the next year. Now, Kevin, he's not vlogging, but he did have a show once upon a time.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
He had a whole reality show.
Fran
He was in the reality TV game.
Ria
So he. He probably would be a good vlogger. And he's got his kids and stuff.
Fran
It'd be like, oh, they'd probably want to vlog themselves.
Ria
They do that. That would be good vlogging.
Fran
Yeah. They all want to get into the vlog game. Joe's just on these side quests, like, doing all these things solo. So I feel like they were like, hey, let's get this content out there.
Ria
Yeah. Because he's like, well, the solo music's not working. Yeah. What if I just go into vlogging?
Fran
Nick's filming a movie right now, so he's busy.
Ria
A ROM com.
Fran
No, different.
Ria
Okay, but did you see the rom com? Yes.
Fran
Yes. He is gonna be in a rom com. It sounded like the plot of Baby daddy. Yeah.
Ria
Do you think he's baby daddy? What's baby daddy?
Fran
Big daddy.
Ria
Big daddy. Big Daddy.
Fran
That was a Freudian slip. Actually, I think Nick's starring in a new movie called My Baby Daddy.
Ria
Did you.
Fran
You see that one?
Ria
Directed by Francesco Mariano.
Fran
Oh, it's like a take on Big Daddy, I think.
Ria
Okay.
Fran
Like, it's like single, like single bachelor. Like, has to take care of his cousin's kid or.
Ria
And he's playing the single bachelor.
Fran
Yes.
Ria
I'm wondering, like, what are the rules when it comes to him. And Priyanka was like kissing other actors.
Fran
I don't think she probably have them. She was just in that. She was kissing Sam Heughan in that movie they were in.
Ria
Oh, right, right. No, I'm not like against either way. I just am curious.
Noah
She. She's in the biz.
Ria
Yeah, she's in the biz. She gets it, I think. But there are some people now, like George Clooney recently said how he was
Noah
like, he's an old man.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
When you get up there. Yeah.
Ria
He's like, at this point, I won't be kissing other people. Like, that's. I've drawn the line now.
Fran
Yeah. There's a couple other actresses who have said that too, where they're like, I just don't need to.
Noah
You guys know that Liam Neeson and Helen Mirren dated. I just saw a video. They were doing an interview the other day and he was like, so nice about pre.
Fran
His what? Pre Natasha.
Noah
Like, they were young, like, oh, wow.
Fran
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Ria
Guys, I need to bring up something that I have actually held onto for months now that I kept meaning to bring up.
Guest
Okay.
Ria
And it just reminded me right now. I had no idea that Sarah Paulson and. And the mother from Two and a Half Men were together. Oh, my God. Yeah, I had. For years. For years. I had no clue. And I saw them step out at an award show together and was like, Holland Taylor.
Fran
They've been together for at least a decade. Yeah, 2015.
Ria
A long ass time.
Noah
I didn't even know that she dated women.
Fran
Is that what you're gonna say?
Ria
Yeah, well, yeah, okay, but.
Fran
Long awkward pause.
Noah
No, I was just trying to think of the most polite way to say it.
Ria
Yeah, but no, I just had no idea. I was stunned. I said, these two are together for this long. Yeah, that's always very stunning. It's like when you found out that Maya Rudolph was with Paul Thomas Anderson. Right. And they have kids. Right.
Noah
You're like, Sarah Paulson is with. With an 83 year old woman right now.
Ria
What the fuck?
Fran
Yes, they have a. Thank you, 32 year age gap. Thank you for the.
Noah
How is this not talked about?
Fran
I know it's talked about. It's talked about plenty.
Ria
Is it Because I was stunned.
Noah
Wait, I'm seeing these pictures and I feel like I've seen them before because they're at like the Emmys and stuff,
Fran
but I probably saw every cartoon together.
Ria
Like I thought she was bringing her aunt on the carpet. I said, they're dating.
Noah
Why is this not like discussed?
Fran
It is. They talk about. They talk.
Noah
Double standard. People talk about Leo.
Fran
No, Leo's not dating a guy.
Noah
But would that change it? I don't think whether it's a guy, guy, woman, woman like this. I don't think it should change. This is a.
Fran
No, this is a.
Ria
But they started dating a large guy.
Fran
Neither of them were like, Sarah Paulson wasn't 20 or in her teens when she started dating.
Ria
No, no, but.
Fran
But it is an established adult.
Ria
Yes, they're both established adults. But it is quite the jump of an age gap.
Fran
It absolutely is.
Ria
Like HOLLAND Taylor being 83.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
And how old, Sarah?
Noah
52, 51.
Ria
It is wild.
Noah
She was in her 80s and she was in her 40s it's why a
Fran
couple years they met at a dinner party where Paulson was and when Paulson was dating Cherry Jones. Paulson has said Taylor was the most exquisite, exquisitely beautiful woman she'd ever seen.
Noah
What year, like, was she like 70 at that?
Fran
2015.
Ria
So she was 23.
Fran
Or maybe they met before that, but they've been together since 2015.
Noah
This is stunning.
Ria
So you're just as stunned as I was.
Noah
First of all, I didn't know that she dated women. That doesn't really like, that's not anything new or anything crazy. But you're dating an 83 year old.
Ria
83 year old. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. What. It is wild. What else has Holland Taylor been in? Because I, I, Why do I know a ton for sure? She's been in everything. But I for some reason said Two and a Half Men, like, that's where my brain went. Oh, she's from Philly.
Fran
Yep.
Ria
Third, born and last.
Noah
Let's see, she's.
Ria
She. Oh, she's been in the morning show. She was in Billions. But like, what about the early, the early days of Holland?
Noah
Silent films?
Ria
Charlie Chaplin.
Guest
Oh, shit.
Ria
Yeah. Wow. Oh, Spy Kids. She's the grandma inspired.
Fran
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ria
She's the grandma in Spy Kids that came out in 2002. Yeah.
Noah
She played a grandma 25 years ago.
Fran
Yeah. During a 2020 interview.
Guest
I'm wearing a gray shirt.
Fran
Sarah Paulson has she. Because they have gotten a lot of backlash for their relationship. Yeah. And Jude said, I don't remember people going nuts about Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones in terms of their age difference. She said, I think people are fascinated by it because it's not so typical, obviously.
Ria
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tragical.
Noah
Wait, so Holland Taylor didn't, like, was never married before or never had a partner like before.
Fran
I know. I think she did.
Noah
I don't, like, I'm on her Wikipedia. I don't see anything other than Sarah Paulson under partner
Ria
I can't find. You're looking for.
Fran
I can't find her dating history. No, I think she was with. I think she was also in like a previously long relationship before.
Ria
She has lived a very quiet personal life. She didn't come out until later in life.
Fran
Yep.
Ria
But because she doesn't want to be defined by labels.
Noah
I mean, hey, she's winning in this scenario.
Ria
Yeah, Yeah.
Noah
I mean, you're dating like, she's.
Fran
Yeah.
Noah
Only 50.
Fran
Have like they, you know, they beat to their own drum. Like, I don't, I think They, I think they live separately so they have their own like they're you know, very independent lives but they're also together and yeah. Spend a lot of time together like, but they still, still sort of have their own thing. It is, it is. Let me tell you.
Ria
It is fascinating.
Noah
I'm shocked out here getting crucified.
Ria
I had no idea. What's the age gap between Bill and
Noah
I think it's actually more because he's like in a, it's probably like over 40.
Ria
Yeah. Bill Belichick and Jordan age gap. I mean it doesn't, one doesn't make the other one like okay, it's not like, oh, suddenly Bill Belichick shouldn't be getting shit just because Holland Taylor and Sarah Paulson are dating. Y Both are bizarre.
Fran
1, 1 healthy 50 year age gap, 1 healthy age gap relationship doesn't make all age gap relationships.
Ria
Right, right. There's 49 years between Belichick the new one that people are, she's in her 20s. Yeah.
Noah
Are really disgusted by is Toby Maguire. He's dating like a 19 year old.
Ria
Oh yeah. Toby Maguire is always dating.
Fran
James Marson's new girlfriend's like 20, 27. That's not as how old is, he's like 50 something.
Noah
He's like 50, I think but like I'm, I'm just saying like Rose, 25 years. 27 isn't like a child, you know,
Fran
like 27, but that's still 25 years.
Ria
He's 52.
Noah
That's not, that's not much younger than you.
Fran
Yeah, I, I, I could have been an option. Yeah, I'm probably too old for him.
Noah
52, 27. So it's, it's big. But like in Hollywood we seem way crazier than that.
Ria
Well, Sarah Wells and Alan Taylor.
Noah
Leo, Leo is the same age.
Fran
Leo doesn't get to set the bar
Ria
for every other guy in the world.
Fran
I'm just saying like every other guy can, every other old ass guy can be like, well I could date a girl in my 20s because Leo does it. Right.
Ria
Right. No, listen, at the end of the day I just like a big age gap relationships. To me I'm just like, what do you have in common?
Fran
Yeah. And I agree.
Ria
And here's the thing. Sarah Paulson being 50 something years old getting together with, with a 70 something year old Holland Taylor is to me a little bit different than an old man getting together with a young 20 something year old girl.
Fran
It's, it's big.
Ria
It's not creepy big time. Like you know What? I mean, like, it's less creepy.
Noah
Yeah, well, we always talk about what's his face. Kick ass kid.
Fran
Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Ria
That. That's creepy. Yeah.
Fran
I mean, he was. Felt like he was like 18. Like.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Mildly different.
Ria
Yeah. Anyway, shocking, though, still fascinating.
Noah
Maybe not creepy, but, like, probably the most stunned I've ever been.
Ria
It is definitely stunning.
Noah
Those pictures are.
Fran
I just can't believe that you. I'm just shocked at, like, Noah, who's been working like, the chicks in the
Noah
office, but we've never talked about it.
Fran
I know, Just. I'm just saying you've been working like the chicks on Instagram, like, posting red carpet photos for so long. That's. We.
Ria
We've probably thought that they were, like,
Noah
on a show together. Like, that's her mom. Like, I don't know.
Ria
I found out from our account, like, we posted a picture of them together and I thought to myself, I'm pretty sure we did. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.
Fran
Maybe I'm thinking, like, co stars.
Noah
I thought to myself, oh, she brought her mom.
Guest
That's cute.
Fran
I was like, oh, they got a close relationship.
Ria
What movie did they do together?
Fran
I didn't know damn well to bring it all back around. Nick Jonas will be starring in a new rom com that is. He follows a carefree bachelor who, after unexpectedly inheriting his cousin's infant, faces a custody battle with the child's godmother during the holidays.
Ria
Thrilling.
Fran
So it's like a mix of baby daddy and baby Daddy. I just did it again. Jesus Christ. Big Daddy and Big Daddy. And what's. What's.
Ria
God, I just can't stop thinking about his big daddy.
Fran
I know. What's. Fuck. What's the movie with Katherine Heigl and
Ria
Josh Duhamel knocked up.
Musical Interlude
No.
Fran
Life as we Know It.
Ria
Life as We Know It.
Fran
A little mix of those. Yeah.
Ria
You know Josh Duhamel, man.
Fran
You're battling for custody, and it's being directed by this. The guy who directed the Duff.
Ria
Oh, love that movie. Good movie.
Fran
One of my favorites.
Ria
Same. Oh, we love that movie. Yeah. So, Baby Daddy coming soon.
Fran
So it seems this project is untitled. I have a name
Ria
in case you want to call us up.
Fran
Although it does seem like around the Holidays has some sort of holiday feel to it. But he's in Vancouver filming, I think, another holiday movie just gonna become the king of the king of holidays. Yeah, holiday movies. I think the movie that they're filming right now is called the White Elephant.
Ria
Yes, it is.
Fran
Which is, you know, the game that we all play around the time.
Ria
Around that time. Around that time.
Fran
Around that time when we're exchanging gifts.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
There's actually another movie called the White Elephant with, with Bruce Willis.
Ria
Battle of the title. That came out in 2022.
Fran
Yankee Swap, you call it Yankee Swap.
Ria
Well, they're two different games.
Fran
Yeah.
Noah
Are they?
Ria
White Elephant and Yankee Swap are two different games.
Noah
What's the difference?
Fran
Look it up.
Noah
But Yankee Swap, we just like. It's the same idea where like you all bring gifts and then you go around like you pull a ticket and then you can steal other people's gifts.
Fran
I think they are very similar. I think they're kind of the same.
Ria
Yeah. Look up, look it up.
Fran
Nick Jonas and Catherine Newton are White Elephant. It's a holiday horror film. So he's covering all the holiday genres. Holiday horror, holiday rom com.
Ria
I have to be completely honest.
Fran
Holiday horror.
Ria
No. And I have to be honest, I
Fran
don't want any horror in my holiday.
Ria
No, no, no, no. And when you are like going down the path of doing holiday movies and horror movies and then you combine them together, it's like, are you struggling? What's going on?
Fran
I really want to see the movie that he has coming out with Paul Rudd. Did you see the trailer for that? That looks really.
Ria
Yeah, that looks good.
Noah
This is the. It says White Elephant and Yankee Swap are essentially the same stealing based gift exchange game, but they differ in tone and intent. White Elephant centers on humorous. White Elephant centers on humorous, useless or gag gifts aimed at producing laughs. While Anki Swap typically focuses on useful, high quality or desirable gifts.
Fran
So we take an item.
Ria
You're classy.
Noah
Yeah, yeah.
Fran
Keep it classy. Yankee Swap, you're like, you're.
Noah
Honestly though, like.
Ria
They're not like someone's.
Fran
Someone's getting like a new pair of AirPods everyone's fighting over.
Noah
Yeah, but honestly, no, I'm sure you have a limit. Yeah, it's not, it's not anything. I mean, at least when we've played, it's nothing like crazy.
Ria
Yeah, yeah.
Noah
The same thing.
Ria
Yeah. Right.
Fran
It's just what elephant is like, oh, you could. Someone could get like a cushion.
Noah
Your family's like, guys, big news. We're switching a Yankee Swap this year,
Fran
which means all the gifts must be upgraded.
Ria
Group text goes out.
Noah
We are no longer doing wine. No more humorous, useless or gag gifts.
Fran
Yeah, yeah.
Ria
Anyways, use your. Use your Christmas bonuses wisely this season. All right, let's get into today's show. Fran, it's going to be dangerous when you're out on Monday. And me and Noah talk for 40 minutes about Sarah Paulson and Mary Holland.
Fran
Yeah, yeah.
Ria
Mary Holland. Holland Taylor. Mary Holland.
Fran
That's a Jeff D. Lowe question.
Noah
Yeah.
Ria
Wow.
Guest
Wow.
Ria
All right, let's get into the topics. We're going to be talking about the Alex vs Alex vs Brianna chicken fry drama that's going on. Patrick Schwarzenegger has now been announced that he will be playing Gus in Beach Read Emily Henry's book that is getting a movie adaptation. And. Why am I blanking?
Fran
Ticketmaster and Olivia Rodrigo.
Ria
Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster, yes. And Ticketmaster is a monopoly. And Olivia Rodrigo seen out on maybe a date with geese. Not to be confused.
Fran
Not to be confused with.
Ria
Well, his goose with Goose.
Noah
His name is Cameron Winter.
Fran
No, his name is Cameron. His band is called Geese. But there is also a band called a band called Goose. Like he is. This guy is in a band called Geese.
Ria
But there's.
Fran
But there's also a band that's called Goose.
Ria
And.
Noah
And they're both pop. Very popular.
Fran
Very popular. And you know, they're.
Ria
This is gonna be the drama next.
Fran
Yeah. There's not enough geese for the boat.
Ria
No, clearly not. All right, let's get into it. Truly is doing something extra fun. They just dropped these limited edition 24 ounce wild berry cans. And they're not just drinks. They're basically collectibles. Each can is designed around a different city. So it's cute, unique, and also a little bit competitive because you kind of want to collect them all. And if you do collect them all and get the full set, you can even enter to win exclusive U.S. soccer merch, which is pretty cool. So right now I got one of the Dallas cans in my hand. We got a couple other cities up here, and if you collect them all, you could enter to win merch. Also, quick reminder, Truly is the official hard seltzer of US Soccer. So they're really leaning into the whole game day energy, making everything feel more social and more fun. And obviously, you're still getting everything you love about Truly, which is the super light, super refreshing, only 100 calories and 1 gram of sugar. So you can keep the vibes going. Go grab the truly 24 ounce wild berry collectible cans at a local store and see how many you can find. So as we slightly discussed, Alex Cooper posted on her Instagram, calling out Brianna chicken Fry, being like, I don't know why you're getting involved with this, saying, I'm gonna just. She's gonna destroy me. We have never met. Here are dms blah Blah, blah. I've never invited you on call her daddy. The whole thing. Yeah. She posted their DMs. Here's. Here's where Alex Cooper went wrong. You gotta make sure you never met. You gotta make sure you never met. Because now everyone is posting when Alex Cooper went on BFFs. Right, right. In person. Right. With Brianna. Right. So it's like, people are just picking that one thing now.
Noah
Although, like, does that really change?
Ria
No, no, no, it doesn't. It doesn't change.
Fran
But she had to be like, oh, yeah, by the way, we did meet one time.
Ria
I forgot.
Fran
And.
Ria
And when you drop, like, a post like that, like, boom. And then you got to go back and be like, we. By the way, we met one time. That, like, it takes away, like, also,
Noah
like, she did the thing, which is the worst thing in the world, where you post something and then realize there's a typo and then you delete it for the. Like, she took everything. She posted all those stories and then took them all down.
Ria
Yeah.
Noah
And people are like, why did she.
Ria
So it kind of takes the air out of the tire a little bit when you got to be like, wait, never mind. We did meet that one time.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
Because immediately people started clipping the show being like, you guys did meet in person. The whole thing basically, like, Brianna, she commented on our post being like, ew. About Alex Cooper. She's commented on a couple other TikToks as well. And then got on her Instagram story to respond back to Alex Cooper's post being like, just basically saying that this. You know, I liked you and was a fan of you before I found out the things about you and, like,
Fran
you're a mean girl.
Ria
And mentioned how when the whole thing happened with Greece that Dave called Bri and said that Alex said, like, I don't give a shit about you or Grace. I'm just trying to make money. Which is like, duh. You know what I mean? Like, did anyone think that she cared about them? I think it was pretty obvious that she was like, I'm just trying to make. Make a bag right now, and I'm gonna hire Grace so that my company gets some publicity and we get a little money and that type of thing. So I feel like that was pretty obvious. But she went on to say that she's just, like, a mean girl and she doesn't like her and that Alex Earl had told her everything that she did to her two years ago at the Super Bowl. And then Hallie Bachelder. Bachelder. I always Forget how to. Or don't know how to pronounce her last name. But then she jumped on her Instagram story and basically said, like, the commentary that's happening online is discussing disturbing, like, lay off my girl. AC so this is interesting because she has a show at Unwell. She works at Unwell, And Halle is good friends with Alex Cooper, but she's also good friends with Brie.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
And they've been hanging out a lot.
Fran
A lot. I think they were.
Ria
They were at Coachella together, seemingly.
Fran
They were at. Spend every day together at Coachella.
Ria
Yeah, they've been spending a lot of time together. So she jumps on and puts that on her Instagram story. So at this point, though, I. I need Alex Earl to let us know what happened, because everyone's forming an opinion right now.
Fran
Yep.
Ria
I feel like we need Alex Earl to tell us what happened so that we can form educated opinion on what went down, if it was right, if it was wrong, where, you know, because at this point, it's a lot of he said, she said.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
And Alex Earl's just going on living her life, and everyone else is freaking out, and she's kind of like, yeah,
Fran
because at this point, I. I'm gonna need more from Earl or else this is a whole big nothing to me. Because to be honest, like, this between Bri and. And Cooper is like, oh, you're a mean girl.
Ria
Like, I.
Fran
Like, she keeps calling her a mean girl. I'm like, okay, there's. There's mean people out there. Like, you know. You know, that. That, to me, isn't, like, cause for people to be up in arms, because at this point, sometimes, like, I don't really find that to be, like, a groundbreaking thing. And also, so many people get, like, the mean girl label when she's just trying to run a business and get done and, like, make those kinds of decisions. I.
Ria
That's why we need to know what happened, because there could be. If you throw out mean girl allegations. Right.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
I need to know what was. What was mean. Was it. Is it, like, really, really mean? Like, but then if. So, then that's, you know, up. But if it's not. If it's more just, like, running a business and whatever. And you're right.
Fran
If it's more just, like, being cutthroat.
Ria
Right.
Fran
Then.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Like, and cutting things and. And saying it how it is and being brutally honest, and you get offended. I don't. I don't. I don't know if that's. I don't know. I'm here's where I'm, like, getting confused now, because it just feels that the longer Earl doesn't say anything, it's like, well, then what. What is it that you have? Because if it is just like, we didn't get along and I don't like her now as a person, that's. That happens, and that's fine. And, like, I just think if that was the case, they. Earl looked up to Cooper for a long time. It's kind of what we were saying with Dave and. And not to be, like, crockety old lady here, but, like, there's a difference. Someone coming out in this younger generation coming out and, like, having their first quote, unquote job or, like, having to deal with a boss or whatever could be like, oh, that. Oh, she's a mean boss. But in reality, maybe not mean. Just, like, intense and strong and, like, doesn't take any bs and there is
Ria
a conversation to be had about that when it comes to women getting the label of being, like, a bitch or something in business, when really.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
They're just putting their foot down and running a business, you know? So I think that this is why we need. We need information. Because now people are running rampant, and it's like a big takedown, and it's like, well, what it. What is really.
Fran
What is the meat of this? What is the source of it?
Ria
Because it might be becoming bigger than what it actually is.
Fran
Exactly. And that's not. That's kind of her, Earl.
Ria
Yeah. And I feel like that is kind of where we're at right now, that it feels maybe bigger than what happened. Unless something crazy really did happen, and she is waiting to say what it is, and in that case, we'll find out. But right now, it feels like, to me that I'm just waiting to know what happened before I make an opinion on, like. Because everyone's like, whose side are you on? It's like, well, I don't know if there's a side to be on yet, because we don't know. You know, like, we. We need. We need both sides of the story to be like, yeah, this is that, you know, Like, I. Because it's just a lot of, like, throwing things out right now without knowing what Alex Earl has to say.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
So.
Fran
Yeah. And I don't know. I don't really love what Cooper did in regards to Bri either, because it's like, lots of people have had things to say about. About Cooper online. I don't know why it was, like, what Brie was saying to be the
Noah
one to get her because she's connected to Dave.
Fran
And, like, Dave's like, I suppose, but it's just like, I don't know. That's like, that's weird to me. And, and posting just being like, here's all of our dms, I think is also kind of a lame maneuver because. And Librie said, and I, I. I'm with her on this. Like, you. Just because I was nice to you at some point doesn't mean I like you now. Like, she's posting DMS from four years ago was where they started talking 2022. It's like, yeah, I had a different opinion of you then. I now think differently of you now. And Bri compared it to, like, Zach Brian posting texts when they were together. It's like, yeah, well, when we were together, I was nice to you. Like, I don't know what. Like, when the. Yeah, that's what. Oh, you're like, oh, you're catching me in some big lie that I. That I'm, like, lying that I think or whatever. That, like, now I've changed my tune. People are allowed to change their tune. I could. You could be really nice to Alex Hooper and her dms and then find something out about her and be like, oh, shit, I don't really fuck with that now. I don't like her.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
And I just don't really think that, Like, I don't really think Cooper need to post the dms like, that. It was kind of.
Ria
I don't know how to. And she also mentioned at the beginning of her statement, like, this girl on girl shit needs to stop. Okay, but then here's all my dm.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
So it was kind of. I don't know.
Fran
And also on girls, she needs to stop. But here's.
Ria
But here's all my DMs.
Fran
But here's all my DMs. And now you guys, like, can pit us against each other even more.
Ria
Yes. And also, like, I think Alex Cooper has to know how the Internet treats Brianna chicken fries sometimes. And it kind of felt like, all right, yeah, easy target. Easy target. Get off my back now. Here, go at. Go at, Bri.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
And so I felt like it just was. Was, you know, it was juicy.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
But it was, like, probably unnecessary because it's more about Alex and Alex. Brianna was commenting and stuff, but she clearly knows everybody's commenting. Everybody's commenting on it.
Fran
You know, everyone's got something. Like, everyone's got a story. Everybody's got something to say.
Ria
There are so Many people, you don't
Fran
see Alex Cooper making direct. A direct video about Bravo Mom.
Guest
The.
Fran
The woman who basically started this whole thing in the first place.
Ria
Like, she didn't make a direct comment about Dave.
Fran
Yeah. Or yeah. Like, she.
Ria
Who's. Yeah, you know, it'.
Fran
Like, so. I don't know. I. That. That felt a little unnecessary. Well, yeah. Dave's like, I like all of them. Like, so it's just. But it's just like, with. It's. It is interesting because whatever Earl has, you'd think Cooper would know what it is. If they had some big fight, you think, you know, Cooper would know, but maybe not. Or. Or Cooper is underestimating what it is because it really seems like she's, like, sitting back in her chair. Like, I'm waiting. Like, post it. Let me see what you got. And it's like, oh, well, if it was bad, I don't think you'd be doing that or posting on your story. Like, by the way, this isn't a pr and it's not a PR stunt. Like, it's, you know.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Very strong statements coming out of the Cooper camp.
Ria
Right.
Fran
Which is interesting when we're still waiting to hear everything that Earl has to say. If she ever. If she ever. Who says it?
Ria
Really?
Fran
All she's posted is a video of her sister and Sally coming into her room Monday morning, Coachella. She's asleep, being like, hey, you got to see this tik tok. And playing Cooper's tik tok for her.
Ria
And she said that it made her day.
Fran
Yeah. And she. With her being like, that just made my day. Like, pulling out her phone and be like, that just made my day. So you would think posting that means, like, oh, you're, like. You're rubbing your hands.
Ria
Ready? Yeah.
Fran
And. And we still don't have anything. We're probably gonna finish recording, and something's gonna happen.
Ria
Right.
Fran
But that's. And. And that is always how it goes.
Ria
I will say, though, Brianna just can't stop collecting tea at the Super Bowls, huh?
Fran
Because I know.
Ria
My goodness. Alex, Earl west, and Amanda.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
I'm like, everyone's telling. Well, everyone's telling Bri everything at the Super Bowls.
Fran
I will say it is a gossip fest at the Super Bowl.
Ria
It must be.
Fran
Must be.
Ria
I haven't been to super bowl in years, but they.
Fran
I mean, think about when we were at the super bowl.
Ria
Like, it was a gossip. I'm still talking about the stories from years ago.
Fran
That's what I'm saying.
Ria
Like, we're still holding on to. From years ago.
Noah
We are.
Fran
Which is why it's like every year.
Ria
You're right. Every year. And now, especially with social media running
Fran
rampant, but every year crazy is happening. So I. I don't know.
Ria
And then Brianna posted Call me Mommy. Like, she's like, she clearly doesn't care. Like, she's like, listen now. Yeah, she's like used to this. She's like, I'm used to.
Fran
Yeah. I feel at this point Brie finds herself in the mix.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
And then there's like a. There's like a five seconds of like, why the am I in the mix? And then. And then she's like, well, I guess I'll use this to my advantage.
Ria
Right? She's like, wait, what am I doing here? But yeah, call me mommy.
Fran
Exactly. Normally I really, like, am not in agreement with Bethany Frankel, but she did post a long video about this. And just like one of her points of, you know. And she does. I don't think she really knows Earl that well. It seems like she knows Cooper more and was just speaking to like her worth ethic and all these work ethic and all these things. But she was just like, this is just a narrative for women. Like, men don't have business deals fall apart. And they're going, oh, that guy's not a guy's guy. And you're like, yeah, that is so true. So it's. But that's really going off of if this is just business gone sour.
Ria
I saw Paige and Hannah talk about this on Giggly Squad where they were like, we are done with the phrase girls girl. Because people don't even know what they are using for it. Using it for anyone.
Fran
Totally.
Ria
They are just throwing out she's a girl's girl or she's not a girl's girl.
Fran
Or you're saying I'm a girl's girl in defense of bad actions.
Ria
Right, Exactly. Or she's not a girl's girl. When someone's just making a decision, like, business wise. So I, you know, I really just want to know everything that happened to give my opinion on whose side I'm on. Because at this point, I don't feel like I can say. Right. Whether or not it's this person or that Speculators. Speculation.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
You know, I agree. And I wish I knew.
Fran
I know. And like, Earl really is so sweet. And in our limited. She is our limited interactions with her, she's been nothing but. So lovely.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
And so I. That's why I think it's hard because I think Everybody. A lot of people feel that way about her, and they seem very genuine. Yeah. And they. And you, like, want to be. You want to stick up for somebody like that. You want to be like, hey, I want to be in. In their corner. Because they. They don't deserve to be mistreated in any way. But at the same time, it's like, if it really was business gone sour, that doesn't make Alex Cooper some big, giant, evil, mean girl.
Ria
So.
Fran
Yeah. Yeah.
Ria
I don't know.
Fran
Well, it's gonna be.
Ria
I'm kind of.
Fran
As the minutes go by, I'm like, she's. Earl's not gonna do anything, and in a week, everyone's gonna forget about this.
Ria
And I wonder if that is a power move or not to just. Not just to just not say anything at all anymore. Or are people gonna be like, wait, what? Why did we. Why did we get into this?
Fran
Or hold it over her head where, like, one day I could tell everyone.
Noah
I feel like that's a no.
Fran
I do think.
Ria
I agree at this point, I think she has to, because never post a TikTok again without the comments being like, tell us what happened. Like, the next TikTok she posts, she has not posted since the reaction video is going to be that.
Noah
So it's also kind of, like, unfair to, like, insinuate that she's a bad person and not actually back it up with anything.
Ria
We need to know. We need to know. We need to know what. What it is that's going on. But, you know, it's like, Bree dangled that in front of everyone, being like, she told me the super bowl. And we're like, tell us. But obviously she could never. She's friends with her. Like, she said, it's not her place story to. It's not her story to tell, so she wouldn't do that, which is very fair. But it. It was interesting that, you know, everyone seemed to be getting into the mix yesterday. Yep. But I saw people messaging us like, you.
Fran
You've met them all. How do you feel?
Ria
I'm like, we're just.
Fran
I don't fucking know.
Ria
Yeah. We're in the same camp as everybody else of not knowing what happened. Sure.
Fran
We met all of. I don't know what's going on behind. I have the doors of Cooper and Earl.
Ria
I have no idea.
Fran
That door is locked.
Ria
We are not in the firm. We don't know.
Fran
We are not part of that firm.
Ria
We do not know.
Fran
Yeah.
Ria
You know what I mean? Me and. Me and Bri had some good banter about Amanda and West. When that was all happening, we were texting about it, laughing about, about Dave just like saying everything that Brianna tells him every second. But this one is a little, is a little closer to home for Brie. So we can't, you know, she's not gonna tell us what happened.
Fran
Also I'm like, I, I do laugh because I, I, I'm like, bray, you actually can't blame Dave on this one now because now time and time again, like, you know how Dave operates. Like, you can't expect, this is not, it's actually on you now. It's like, it's like, yeah, like you can't, you can't DM Dave and be like, she's gonna destroy her and not think that Dave is going to be like reset. She's gonna destroy. You have to, you have to like, you know that Dave's gonna, Dave's gonna do that.
Ria
Any text you send to him, any secret you tell him, anything you tell him can and will be using you
Fran
in a court of law.
Ria
It is going to, and he definitely has kept in some things for people, I assume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, at the end of the day, if it's juicy shit, yeah, he's gonna get out there and you know, run, run to his seat by the ocean.
Fran
If it was something, if it was something that wasn't like currently blowing up, then sure, but he's like in the process of filming himself and you're like, she's gonna, she's gonna destroy her. I was like, like, well that's going
Ria
to the next video. He's like, perfect, I got another message to throw in there.
Fran
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Ria
So we, we shall see ticking if we get a, get a response.
Fran
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Ria
Moving on, Olivia Rodrigo scene out with Cameron from Geese. I'm trying to get all the names correctly here. It's not Goose.
Fran
Cameron Winter.
Ria
Cameron Winter from Geese. You know, lead singer.
Noah
Lead singer.
Ria
I think people were confused if this
Noah
has a solo career, if you're wondering.
Ria
Right. I think people were wondering if her and Lewis Partridge were still dating. Yeah, I don't think so.
Fran
This line, this seems like. No, Right?
Ria
Yeah. It seems like we got the confirmation.
Noah
What is that guy from?
Ria
He's an actor.
Fran
He's an actor. Yeah. Cameron Winter. I can't believe I'm looking at people that were born like past 2000.
Noah
He's not that young, though.
Fran
No, he's 24. Yeah, but that's young and. But yeah, he's. He's a Brooklyn guy.
Ria
That's.
Noah
That's it.
Ria
Honestly, I don't have much to say about this. Like, I just. I'm like, okay.
Fran
In high school, he formed a band, Geese, with his friends from school.
Ria
Hell, yeah.
Fran
And they're still very much a band.
Ria
Geese is such a band name.
Noah
I think Sabrina Carpenter was watching them at Coachella. What Sabrina Carpenter was like in the audience Echo watching.
Fran
Oh, I was gonna say I. They performed well.
Noah
Did you see that they. They covered Baby by Justin Bieber. It's actually pretty good.
Fran
Oh, I didn't see. Are they. They're characterized as indie rock. Is that what you would put them in?
Noah
I don't. I'm not too well averse. Like, I. I've listened to post punk, some of his songs, experimental rock. Then I like. I like some of their songs. I like some of his solo songs. But there are a lot of songs where it's like full on, like, like yelling, screeching, and like, oh, yeah, there's
Fran
some heavy metal stuff in there, but
Noah
I would definitely say indie rock is.
Fran
Wow. They've released four albums.
Noah
They're all like. Like, if you're looking into, like, the pitch, not that that matters, but like, very highly acclaimed, like, in the music world, very well. People are like, oh, he's like the Bob Dylan of our time. Oh, in the music world.
Ria
Wow.
Fran
Okay, so, you know, Rodrigo caught a good one. Now, there is a band called Goose.
Ria
There is band called Goose, and Goose
Fran
is also an American rock band.
Noah
They're more of like a. They're like a great.
Fran
Goose is like. Is a jam. More jam. Danny, like, Joe likes Goose.
Noah
Yeah, yeah.
Fran
And I. A Goose. I heard of having a band called Goose and a band called Geese.
Noah
I feel like Geese makes more sense because it's multiple people. Yeah, yeah. Like Goose. It's like. Is it one guy? Right?
Fran
You're just all, Goose. I'm. I'm Goose.
Noah
I'm going to see Goose. I'm gonna see.
Fran
Yeah, but, you know, it's Coldplay. It's not the Cold Place. Wait, it's like one guy. There's multiple guys in Coldplay, right? It's a singular word.
Noah
I've honestly never really thought too deeply about. What. What is Coldplay? Like, what does that.
Fran
To be honest, when I. When Coldplay was the first example that came into my mind, I was like, why are they.
Noah
But like, what is that? What is Coldplay?
Fran
I. That's what I'm saying.
Ria
I don't know what.
Fran
I don't know what the name origin of Coldplay is.
Noah
Coldplay, meaning. Coldplay's name has no deep hidden meaning. The band adopted it from a classmate. Yeah, that's it. That says there's no meaning behind it.
Fran
Yeah, I'm saying there's plenty of. There's plenty of bands that have a singular.
Noah
Be like Beatle or the Beatles.
Fran
Yeah, no, right.
Noah
Well, yeah, the Rolling Stone.
Fran
Now there's the Rolling Stones, the Stones, the Beatles, the Foo Fighters.
Ria
Yeah, I'm looking this up now. I'm very interested. Queen.
Fran
Queen.
Noah
That's. Yeah, yeah, that's one.
Ria
Queen.
Noah
Van Halen. You always think that's like one kind of, you know.
Ria
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Noah
Tame Impala is one of those where people think it's like a huge man, but it's. Yeah, that one. Actually, it's the opposite.
Ria
I feel like abba.
Fran
It's not that.
Ria
Yeah. I feel like Queen is the best example.
Fran
Queen is a good one. Not Queens. It's just.
Noah
Yeah, but I feel like Encapsulates like the meaning of versus geese.
Fran
But yeah, he was spotted out to dinner with.
Noah
Was that on set or am I making that up? The picture, I was like, does that.
Fran
It was in la.
Noah
It kind of looked like that restaurant that we had.
Ria
Blondie.
Fran
Blondie.
Ria
That's a good one. That's a band.
Noah
Yeah, yeah. Led Zeppelin.
Ria
No, that's like.
Noah
But that one I've all.
Ria
I thought, no one's like, who's Led.
Noah
No, no. I thought when I was a kid, I was like, led Zeppelin.
Ria
He's a guy, I guess.
Fran
Totally.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Thought that was a name for sure.
Noah
You too?
Ria
No, Bon Jovi.
Noah
That one I thought was a guy.
Fran
Well, it is, but the band is called Bon Jovi.
Noah
But then, like, I guess that you want to count that because it's just like the Bon Jovi's band.
Fran
No, no, the band. They're called Bon Jovi.
Noah
I know, but that's his name. So it's like. That'd be like John Mayer's band is called the John Mayer Trio. Like.
Fran
Yeah, but.
Ria
But they'll be like that. Songs by Bon Jovi. And it's the whole band.
Fran
Yes, the whole band. It's not just.
Ria
But I guess that one's a little less. I see what you mean there.
Noah
Interesting.
Fran
Yeah.
Noah
Naming band Leonard Skynyrd.
Fran
Right?
Ria
That one is like. That sounds like a guy.
Fran
Right? I feel like there's probably a bunch
Noah
of the Almond Brothers. There's multiple brothers.
Fran
Yeah. Now, I was trying to think country.
Noah
I'm not really Florida.
Fran
Georgia Line.
Noah
What about rap?
Fran
Two people.
Noah
Or hip hop? The Black Eyed Peas?
Fran
Well, now you're naming plurals.
Noah
No, no, I know. I'm just saying like. I'm saying they are all plural. Like, they're not the Black Eyed.
Guest
Pee Pee.
Fran
Yeah, there's a lot.
Ria
Yeah, Yeah. G Unit. G Unit is a group of rappers.
Noah
But if it's a unit, that is plural.
Ria
True, true, true. But G Unit sounds like.
Noah
Like, that's one.
Ria
When 50 Cent used to be like, G Unit used to think, like, his nickname was G Unit. Or at least I used to think that.
Fran
One Direction.
Noah
Yeah, there's only one direction. The Backstreet.
Fran
The One Direction.
Noah
Backstreet Boy. In sync.
Fran
Yeah.
Noah
Wow. We could just go on for days.
Fran
Yeah, we could. But no. Anyway, Olivia went out. It seemed like they were just on a stroll. What they got in a. A dinner date in la. I wonder if this was like. I wonder if this came out of the Coachella performance. Maybe someone was like, hey, you got to meet Olivia.
Noah
I don't think she was act. Was she at Coachella?
Fran
But I don't think she was.
Noah
I think that I saw somewhere that she was at a show of theirs in Paris recently. So maybe this has been on.
Fran
The pair could be seen smiling as they return to their car after their meal.
Ria
Wait, what's the band that Bruno Mars is in?
Noah
Oh, Silk Sonic.
Fran
Silk Sonic.
Ria
No, that's not.
Fran
Oh, with Anderson.
Ria
Anderson Paak.
Fran
That's one guy.
Noah
Yeah.
Ria
Oh, okay.
Noah
That can't be his actual name though.
Fran
No, but that's just him, right?
Noah
It's just Anderson.
Ria
Anderson Pack is just an. Okay. I thought and so Pack maybe had a band another.
Noah
Okay. The stage name of Anderson. His name is Brandon Paak. Anderson. Interesting.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Okay. Yeah. If anything, I think that this is just confirmed that the back and forth with.
Guest
With.
Fran
With Louis Partridge because I think there was like, oh, did they break up? Did they get back together? Did they break up? Kind of. This kind of answers that question. Feels like they must have completely broken up.
Ria
Yeah. We got an answer.
Fran
She's back dating.
Ria
Patrick Schwarzenegger has been cast as Gus and Beach Read. How do you feel? I haven't read that book. So what's the take on it?
Fran
Here's the thing. Book talk is up in arms.
Ria
They don't like this. Oh my God.
Fran
Girls are screaming into their Tick tock.
Guest
Really?
Fran
It's all over my.
Ria
For you.
Fran
Oh my God.
Ria
They're going.
Fran
They're yelling, patrick Schwarzenegger for Gus. I refuse to see this movie. They're screaming.
Ria
What is. They're characteristics.
Fran
I will tell you what his description is in the meaning.
Ria
Writer, right?
Fran
Yeah. Yes. But he's also like just physically not the same.
Noah
He's been pretty quiet since White Lotus.
Ria
They just started filming in the south of France this week.
Fran
Yeah.
Noah
Did you see like the plot of it?
Ria
Yeah, can.
Noah
That's cool.
Ria
I like it too.
Fran
Oh, for White Lotus. Yeah.
Ria
It's going to take place during the Cannes.
Noah
Like it's like all week. People.
Ria
Yeah, like no, like actors and stuff of that.
Noah
Give me a good cameo. Like George Clooney walks by.
Ria
Yeah, I could see it.
Fran
I gotta find. Maybe I should just like, why there's
Ria
like a nice Wait when they do
Noah
right now like the actual film. Because I was like, are they gonna shoot it when it's actually no Cannes in June?
Ria
They might. They might capture some things if they're still filming at that time.
Noah
Remember, like, was that ocean's 13 that
Ria
when they did the.
Noah
And they actually filmed the Met gala
Ria
stuff like I checked the weather, though, because I was like, what's it like there right now? Because it shut down. It doesn't really open. Probably mid April or end of April, it'll open up again for guests. Probably end of April. Weather's nice right now. It's like 75 degrees. So they got. They got shut down filming in Cannes. Like, that's sick.
Noah
Did you catch that pun?
Ria
Yeah, it's nice. Yes.
Fran
God. Sorry, I can't find the exact. I just saw the Tick tock and I should have saved it. I saw last night. That had the exact description of him. Excerpt of what he.
Noah
Oh, oh, oh, oh, Phoebe Dynevor. Lucky.
Fran
Hold on, I think I got it.
Ria
Oh, my God. You really are crushing hard.
Fran
He does look.
Noah
I do like Phoebe. Nine of her a lot.
Ria
Does the description match Noah a little bit better?
Fran
Yeah, it actually does a little bit.
Noah
For what? The book?
Ria
Yeah, I am on the.
Fran
Okay. Olive skin, cheekbones, strong cheekbones.
Noah
All right, you lost me.
Fran
Crooked mouth and a husky voice. Okay, this is messy dark hair.
Ria
Why? Yeah, this is not.
Fran
That's how you describe Augustus Everett, which I. Which are no descriptive terms I would use for Patrick's worst.
Noah
Quite literally, everything I feel like. What do you mean?
Fran
Olive skin.
Noah
Olive skin's the only thing I feel.
Ria
Husky voice.
Noah
I mean, he puts on a voice olive.
Fran
You kind of just like.
Ria
I see dark hair, husky voice.
Fran
Every Bones casting was, like, so drastically different. You know who people really wanted. And I saw this all over TikTok. Was the guy that is from Game of Thrones or was he in Game of Thrones? No, not House of the Dragon. And then he was in Task the young, the.
Ria
What's his name?
Fran
Fabian Frankel.
Noah
Fabian Frankel.
Fran
You know, the guy from. He was the. Yeah, the cop in. Who was working with the.
Noah
Oh, yeah, with the drug dealer. Oh, he's good.
Ria
That's. That's perfect casting.
Fran
Olive skin, messy dark hair.
Ria
Messy dark hair.
Fran
Yeah. People are people. That's. I will say that was the overwhelming consensus on Booktok from what I saw was that people were really rooting for. For him. So it's like, you look at that compared to Patrick Schwarzenegger, it's impressive. And people are. And here's the thing, I will say, like, a little unfair to Patrick Schwarzenegger because he got the role. He. He. He did.
Guest
And.
Fran
And here's the thing. Like, we have to get past the White Lotus thing. That's what. That's what I think people are stuck on because I. It's like. And we joked about this when the show came out, I was like, ah, you're kind of stuck being like, you're. Are you stuck in that role where people are always going to remember you for your White Lotus character is a Patrick Schwarzenegger?
Ria
Because I'm like, I've never read this book, but I'm just as up in arms, I think, with just.
Fran
It's polar opposite of what the book is.
Ria
That's what it is. And it's not the white. I don't see the White Lotus. Like, it's an actor. Like, he can.
Fran
Yes, right.
Ria
But I say we're.
Fran
You're casting the fucking frat boy brother fucker as our Gus Everett.
Ria
Frat boy brother fucker.
Fran
I just made that up.
Ria
Oh, my God.
Fran
In so many words. That's what they're saying.
Ria
That's what they're saying.
Fran
Frat boy, instant storyline.
Ria
White rat brother fucker. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, when you say it like that.
Fran
When you say like that, you're like,
Ria
yeah, he was acting.
Fran
He was just reading the lines he was given.
Ria
Right. And I just feel like it. It's just like the characteristics don't match. But maybe they'll dye his hair and.
Fran
Yeah, I know. It's like a little bit like anti. It's like, it's like anti nepotism when he. He's not getting this role because of that. But everyone's like, like, annoyed because you're like, patrick Schwarzenegger is gonna play this guy, you know?
Ria
Yeah. Was it. Was his audition that good?
Fran
They. They allegedly went through a lot of people. And Phoebe Dynavore, he must have good chemistry with her, despite everyone saying, like, siblings are dating, which I also totally
Guest
think they look like.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
You see their picture side by side. They could totally be siblings.
Ria
That's a good call, that.
Fran
Yeah, it's a major. Siblings are dating. When you. When you see them next to each
Ria
other, they have like, like mouth, nose. I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
Fran
Like, they really look like they could be related.
Ria
Okay, well, you know what? I. I see what people are saying, but I think they got to give it a chance. Right?
Fran
Like, we got. I know. I think it's just like assumptions about Patrick Schwarzenegger as a person that they're like, that they can't get past.
Ria
Oh, you know,
Fran
which is. Which is like, we don't really. None of. No one really knows him that way. I feel like we don't know anything.
Guest
I know.
Fran
Their search for this deadline wrote. The search for Gus was an extensive process that took place over many months. And while initially he was a dark horse candidate and an unexpected choice, Schwarzenegger's tape and chemistry read with Dynavore blew away filmmakers and the studio.
Ria
If you blow away.
Fran
I know. I mean, if your audition is that good, where they're like, he doesn't quite fit the description that we were going for, but he was that good. We have to cast him. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but, my God, when I first saw this, I. I did agree with everybody. I was like, wait, wait one second. This is just so not who I was picturing.
Ria
They were clearly like, we just can't get them off our mind.
Fran
Yeah, they. Yeah, exactly.
Ria
Reed was so good.
Fran
Yep.
Ria
His beach read was that good. Last topic. I assume you were fired up about this. Ticketmaster was found to be. I don't even know what does this even mean?
Noah
What does this even mean, though, going forward?
Ria
I don't know what I mean.
Fran
It just. It.
Ria
They have found that they're in the wrong.
Fran
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ria
But what does that mean for everybody who spent all their money on these tickets and have waited in these queues and everything?
Fran
Probably. Here's the thing. Probably nothing.
Ria
Probably nothing.
Fran
Probably nothing. But it will be changed for the
Ria
future, and that's what matters.
Fran
And that's what matters.
Ria
That is true.
Noah
Like. Like, tickets are gonna have to be put out.
Fran
I think that they might have to. Like, they might have to separate as a company. Ooh. Like Live Nation and Ticketmaster. They're a monopoly that you got to break up the monopolies.
Noah
But if Live Nation and Ticketmaster separate, does that actually change that much?
Fran
I think so here. All right, so New York jury ruled on Wednesday that Live Nation and its Ticketmaster unit operated as an illegal monopoly, handing dozens of states an important legal win against the ticketing giant. The states in the civil case accused Live Nation of stifling competition, limiting consumer choice, and driving up ticket prices for concert goers, concert growers. Here's the thing. Live Nation, it's like, you go on tour, Live Nation owns. Runs all these venues. They. What?
Guest
You.
Fran
You can't use anything else but Ticketmaster to sell tickets because Live Nation owns Ticketmaster. If those aren't. They're not together, you can use some of these other, like, ticketing distributors who will fairly sell tickets. Live Nation reached a deal with the Department of Justice in March to pay $280 million to states that sued the company over its practices. However, a coalition of more than 30 states rejected the federal statement and settlement and vowed to move forward with litigation. New York Attorney General Tisha James describing the suit as an effort to, quote, restore fair competition to the live entertainment industry. As part of the March agreement with the Justice Department, Ticketmaster was required to sell at least 13 of its amphitheaters and enable third parties to use its technology platform to sell tickets. Now, a judge could eventually reject the settlement in light of the ruling on the state's complaint. Ticketmaster has long clashed with artists, including Pearl Jam, which filed an anti monopoly complaint against the business in the 1990s. Ticketmaster also also famously ignited a backlash in 2022 for its handling of ticket sales for Taylor Swift's Heirs tour. Live Nation Entertainment owns or has an equity interest in hundreds of venues around the US which it also operates and for which it controls bookings. Live Nation put out a statement on Wednesday saying the jury's verdict is not the last word on this matter. Pending motions will determine whether the liability and damages ruling stand. Of course they'll try and they'll try and appeal and all those things and do and do all that. They're gonna come up with some crazy number that's like, oh, you owe all the states this amount of money for.
Noah
And what are the states doing with that money? Can they, can they sell?
Fran
I think it's like people are in the. Are in part of the class action lawsuits. The judge in the case will now determine the total damages amount and penalties, according to California Attorney General Rob Bon's office, which is part of the lawsuit. In the face of dwindling antitrust enforcement by the Trump administration, this verdict shows just how far states can go to protect our residents from big corporations that are using their power to illegally raise prices and rip off Americans. He said. New York jury found the Ticketmaster overcharged customers and 22 cents by an average of a dollar and 72 cents per ticket.
Ria
That's all.
Fran
That doesn't seem like a lot.
Ria
Doesn't seem like that much of an overcharge.
Fran
Yeah. If a judge ordered the company to issue refunds, it could result in Live Nation owing consumers hundreds of millions of dollars.
Ria
Okay, so they owe hundreds.
Fran
But it's like, okay, does everyone get. Everyone gets 1.72 back? I don't know. I don't know.
Ria
Isn't it hundreds of dollars?
Fran
They've been overcharging Live Nation and ticket.
Noah
A lot of tickets.
Guest
Yeah.
Fran
Live Nation and Ticketmaster could also be forced to divest concert venues or even to break up.
Ria
Up.
Fran
So. So that's like, what I was saying is like, you can't you can't run the venues and sell the tickets for them.
Ria
Fair.
Fran
Which is where. Which is where it was.
Ria
Damn.
Fran
That's how we felt.
Ria
All right, well, listen, you said a lot of words that.
Fran
I don't know if I have any
Noah
more clarity than I do.
Fran
It's a lot of legal. It's a lot of jargon.
Ria
I even know. Even after that, we don't know.
Fran
And they don't know because it's still ongoing. It's like it's. It's small increments of wins. And like, this is a win.
Noah
Can they appeal this?
Ria
Yeah. Talk about small increments. 172 is a small increment. That's not a big increment.
Fran
No, no, no.
Ria
We're talking about, you know, a lot more than that.
Fran
Well, Live Nations. Yeah, yeah, it is a lot. And obviously plenty of people will be
Ria
like, Well, I paid $1,000.
Fran
Far more than. Far more than that. No, it's just going to. It's going to go like this because Live Nation is going to appeal or fight back in some way, and they'll go back and forth. Maybe nothing will happen. But at least this is a small win that. That. A small win of recognition that, yes, you were and are screwing over millions of people who are trying to go see concerts Beat Re and Fran is presented by State Farm. Sure, being expert at celeb trivia is pretty impressive. You know what's even more impressive? Being smart about saving money for your dream home or a sweet new ride. And a great way to do that is saving. When you choose to bundle home and auto with the State Farm personal price plan bundling. Just another way to save. With the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts, and savings and eligibility vary by state.
Ria
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another game of Beatri and Fran. This is game number 215, and we are joined by Molly and Delaney. Not only are they co workers, but they're friends. Before work, they went to college together and they are ready to play. So welcome to the show.
Guest
Thank you.
Fran
We are pumped to play. It is 15 questions. If you get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's going to give us a movie. We're going to guess the Rotten Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will go first. We each get our Own guests. We alternate between team for teams for guesses. So, Noah, what is today's movie?
Noah
Today's movie is. Is Greece.
Fran
Greece. Oh, gee. First one.
Noah
Yeah. I didn't even know there was another one.
Ria
Yeah, Greece too.
Guest
Oh, there's Greece too.
Ria
Yeah. All right, so one of you will go first.
Guest
I'm gonna say a tie. Yeah, 88. Oh, sure. I'll do 92.
Fran
It's okay, 92. What's yours? Rhea.
Ria
It should be very high, but I'm gonna get. Yeah, 63.
Fran
Yeah, I'm going to say 70.
Noah
63 is the closest. 65. Ooh.
Guest
Wow, that's a shame.
Noah
I feel like we have to watch that in school and that was the only time I watched it.
Ria
Oh, I never watched it in school. I watched school.
Fran
It's like a little risque.
Guest
Yeah.
Noah
I don't know if I'd ever choose to watch it, like, on my own, but I remember watching it, so. Okay, question number one to Re and France, Shout out Lauren from Fort Worth, who played the President's daughter in Corey in the House.
Ria
Is this do? Yeah. Madison. I have no clue. Madison Pettis. Is that her name? Yeah. Final answer.
Noah
Correct.
Fran
Nice. Oh, the little girl.
Ria
Yes.
Fran
She's not little. She's not little anymore. And when you see.
Ria
Yeah, but she'll always be little.
Fran
No, but like, when you see her, you're like, ah, she grew, not little.
Ria
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Noah
Okay, one, nothing. Ran. Fran. Question number two to Molly and Delaney. Shout out. Natalie from Philly. Matt Damon and Jessica Chastain are in two space related movies together. Name the two movies.
Ria
Two space movies.
Guest
Met Damon. He was in like, what was it called? Interstellar. No, not Interstellar. No. Was it the Martian? Is he. Yes, the Martian.
Noah
And then 15 seconds.
Guest
What's the. I have no idea. I only know one. I know one part of gravity because that's. No, no, think of another one. Say it up.
Noah
Time is up.
Guest
The Martian and Interstellar.
Noah
Correct. Ooh.
Guest
Oh, wow.
Fran
Nice.
Noah
Yeah.
Ria
You know, just throw out two space movies and. Yeah, space movies.
Noah
The fastest you can go back to back years. 2014.
Fran
And yeah, it's also like. Yeah, you remember each of them individually for each movie.
Noah
I remember when I first watched Interstellar and when Matt Damon came, I was like, what is ha. Like, I've never seen. Oh, so that's spoiled. It's like the most random. It's like more than halfway through the movie. Really?
Ria
Yeah. No, I've never seen it.
Fran
Fantastic.
Noah
Oh, that's a great movie. All right, Tied up at one Question number three to Rand. Fran, shout out Mackenzie from Milwaukee and Baby Brooks, who was cooking up in her belly at the Milwaukee live show in October. She said we shouted to Wes that someone with kids was a red flag, but turns out he was the red flag.
Ria
True.
Fran
She got her question in. And a flame.
Ria
Nice.
Noah
All right, name the actor that appears in all of the following movies. Horrible bosses too. Don't worry, darling. Into the woods.
Fran
Don't worry, darling.
Ria
Into the woods.
Noah
15 seconds.
Fran
I can't think of anything like else. I. I don't think. I've never seen A World of Bosses. One or two. I don't think.
Ria
Really?
Fran
Yeah.
Noah
Five seconds.
Ria
Oh, wow.
Fran
Because I. I'm gonna guess James Corden.
Noah
Final answer incorrect team.
Ria
Don't worry, darling. No, but he's just.
Fran
Into the woods.
Ria
What is it?
Guest
No, is his name's not like Nick or something like that? No, I have no idea. I don't know. The only person I can think who else is in that movie is like, Olivia Wilde, right? Yeah. Olivia Wilde.
Noah
Incorrect. Chris Pine.
Guest
We were talking about it yesterday, but I couldn't look at the name.
Fran
Damn.
Ria
I totally, like, couldn't think of any other guy that was in Don't Worry Darling besides Harrison. Literally. Damn. How could I forget?
Noah
All right, question number four. And this is to Molly and Delaney. It's still tied up at one. Shadow McKenzie from Maki.
Ria
Again.
Noah
I'm not going to read the whole extra stuff this time.
Guest
That's fair.
Noah
What fruit scent does Sabrina Carpenter say her air freshener is in her song House tour?
Guest
I have no clue. Strawberry. Sure. Strawberry.
Noah
Incorrect written frame.
Fran
I have no clue. I actually don't really think I know any other words besides the chorus because that's just what you see played on.
Guest
That's all I have.
Fran
Social media.
Ria
Because that's it.
Guest
That.
Fran
That like 20 seconds. What is it? An air freshener?
Noah
Yeah.
Ria
Green apple.
Noah
Five seconds.
Ria
I mean, you know, any guess is good right now. Green apple.
Noah
Incorrect. Pineapple.
Fran
Oh,
Guest
that makes a lot of sense.
Noah
The pineapple air freshener is my favorite kind. Okay, still tied to one. And this is question number five to Ran Fran, shout out Annie from Chicago.
Ria
Isn't it weird how your brain does that? It's like it knows something, but it's not that. Right? It's like green apple, but it's pineapple. You know, like your brain knows it's like something close, but it not.
Noah
That's why you said green apple.
Fran
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Ria
Like, I think like your brain just like.
Noah
I mean, you get what I'm saying?
Ria
Like, you know.
Fran
Yeah, yeah.
Noah
Okay. Shout out. Andy from Chicago. What is the name of the basketball team in running point? The Los Angeles Blank.
Fran
I forget. Los Angeles.
Ria
Something. Is it something like sort of bear? But it has to be like an L, right?
Fran
Like a. No, not necessarily.
Noah
15 seconds.
Ria
Bear crawlers. I don't know.
Noah
Five seconds.
Ria
I don't know. The bear crawlers.
Noah
Final answer, Incorrect. Shockingly.
Guest
Should we go with something big? I don't know. Why stars like popping into my brain. Star. Yeah, like the stars. I don't think that's right, though. Sure. Stars.
Noah
The Los Angeles waves.
Fran
Waves, waves, waves.
Ria
Very close.
Fran
Stars would also make sense.
Guest
Bears and waves are all the same.
Ria
Very close.
Noah
I guess there are a lot of bears in la, you know, any.
Ria
Listen, any guess would have been good when you don't know it.
Noah
Yeah, I like that you were like not just the Los Angeles Bears but the Los Angeles Bear Crawler.
Fran
Well, she added crawlers.
Ria
I don't know. It just. It felt right.
Noah
All right, question number six. Still tied up at one. This is. And this is to Molly and Delaney. Shout out Kylie. I've never seen that spelling. It's K, I, L, E, Y. From Chicago.
Ria
K, I.
Fran
Is that L, E, Y?
Noah
No, but Kylie, I've always seen ky.
Fran
Oh, I know a bunch. I know.
Noah
Really?
Fran
I know Kylie spelled that way.
Ria
Yeah.
Noah
Interesting.
Ria
Okay, first for me as well.
Noah
In Friends when Monica asked Joey to borrow money and not tell Chandler. What lie does Joey tell Chandler? The money is for.
Guest
The money is for. I know this too. Yeah.
Ria
I have no clue.
Guest
No clues for. For cooking classes. I know that's not right.
Fran
Just.
Guest
Monica's a chef.
Noah
Incorrect.
Ria
I just started my friend's rewatch two nights ago from at the very beginning. This is. This is later season. Because it's for Joey.
Guest
Yeah.
Noah
15 seconds.
Ria
I. I honestly don't. Any idea. Acting classes.
Noah
Final answer, incorrect. Monica. He said Monica's boob job.
Fran
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ria
That's funny.
Noah
All right.
Fran
Good stuff.
Ria
Yeah. Good episode.
Noah
All right, we hit a cold streak here. Still tied up at one. Question number seven to reinfrence out at Lauren from Fort Worth on watch what happens live with Andy Cohen. Andy always has a sports team hat and paraphernalia right behind him. What city is it from?
Ria
Is this us?
Guest
Yeah.
Ria
St. Louis.
Fran
St. Louis.
Ria
Final answer correct. St. Louis guy.
Noah
I don't know if I knew that.
Ria
Yeah, that's why he bonds so much with Tom Sandoval.
Noah
Okay. Two, one. Reinforced.
Ria
Yeah, that's true.
Noah
Oh, and yeah, Wes is from St. Louis. Oh. For some reason, I thought he was from Milwaukee because he was like, Missouri. Yeah. Okay. Two, one. Ran. Fran, question number eight to Molly and Delaney. Shadow Erica from Connecticut in Entourage. Who is a celebrity that gets into a car accident with Eric?
Guest
I literally just watched this show, too. I know. You know it. I can't think of it. What celebrities were in five seconds. Okay, throw one out. Trying to remember a girl's name. I can't remember
Noah
five seconds.
Guest
Say something parasailted. Correct.
Ria
It's on a Ferris.
Noah
Correct. And then they, like, have a little.
Ria
But really, like, she wants him to manage him, you know?
Noah
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Remember her boyfriend sucked.
Ria
Sucked.
Noah
Yeah. Okay. Three, one. Rhian. Fran. Question number nine is this is to reenfranch Shadow Ashley from Pittsburgh. Name. This year, the final episode of Full House airs. The song waterfalls by TLC is released and the first Toy Story is released.
Ria
1999. 1998.
Fran
Last episode episode of Full House.
Ria
Feel like it's 98.
Noah
15 seconds.
Ria
First Toy Story movie.
Fran
I feel like 98 too.
Ria
All right. Yeah. Go 98. A 1998 final answer.
Noah
Incorrect.
Guest
It's 90. It's 95 through 97. Really? I feel. No, no. What should I say? Pick a number. 5, 6, or 7. 97.
Noah
Incorrect. 95.
Fran
Oh.
Ria
Earlier than I was close. Wow. The first Toy story came out before I was born. That's crazy.
Noah
You know what else happened that year? I was born.
Ria
Big year.
Noah
Big year.
Ria
Big year.
Noah
And tlc. Waterfalls is my hangover song too. So makes sense.
Ria
Helps you get through the morning.
Noah
It really does. I don't know why. Sure, it is soothing.
Ria
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Noah
3, 1. Still re and Fran, this is question number 10. Tamale and Delaney. I'm gonna play a movie clip and you tell me what movie it's from. What is your position on the role of government in supporting innovation in the field of biotechnology? Well, Dean, I'm glad that you asked that question. Actually, I'd like to jump in and take that one, Jimmy, if you don't mind. Recent research has shown that empirical evidence for globalization of corporate innovation is very limited. And as a corollary, the market for technologies is shrinking. As a world leader, it's important for
Ria
America to provide systematic research grants for.
Noah
For a scientist.
Guest
Oppenheimer. For no reason. I have no clue. Spitzel. Oppenheimer.
Noah
Incorrect.
Fran
Was it Clooney?
Ria
The. The actor is on the tip of my tongue.
Fran
Don't look up.
Ria
Would he given us another question of don't look up? He just gave us.
Fran
Yeah, I couldn't really, really place any of the voices.
Ria
Oh,
Fran
damn it.
Noah
10 seconds.
Fran
Some sort of hearing happening.
Ria
Oh, my God.
Noah
Time is out.
Ria
Please tell me, please tell me.
Noah
Old school. That's Will Ferrell.
Ria
Yeah.
Fran
Oh, old school.
Noah
Yeah.
Fran
Not even close.
Noah
And that was. And that was Jeremy Piven.
Ria
Yes. That was on the tip of my tongue. Dang it.
Noah
It is funny. It's Oppenheimer. I mean, if you didn't know. Yeah. Okay. It is still three. One. Rhian. Fran. This question.
Fran
Some all time guesses from us.
Ria
This.
Guest
This game.
Noah
This question is to re.
Ria
These are hard.
Noah
Shadow Emily from Michigan. In a season five episode of the King of Queens, Arthur reignites his addiction to what common drugstore item.
Ria
Nasal spray. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just gonna say nasal spray.
Noah
Finally answer correct.
Fran
Y.
Noah
All right. Four one of queens.
Ria
King of queens.
Fran
Entourage, this is a RIA game.
Noah
Yeah. Question number 12. And this is to Molly and Delaney. Shout out Ally from North Carolina. On season four of Real Housewives of New Jersey, Melissa's storyline included her aspiring singing career in a live performance of her dad debut song. What was the name of the song?
Guest
Yes. On display.
Noah
Final answer.
Ria
Yes.
Noah
Correct.
Ria
Nice. Each and every day, they each had their moment, you know?
Fran
Yeah.
Guest
It was beautiful.
Noah
Okay.
Fran
Recording studio. Yep.
Noah
Four, two. Ran Friend question number 13 to Ran Fran, Shout out Natalie from Philly. Name all of the Taylor Swift albums that have title tracks.
Ria
What does that mean? Title tracks?
Fran
The name of the album is a song.
Ria
Oh, okay. So lover definitely does.
Fran
Lover.
Noah
Red.
Ria
Red. Folklore. No. Okay.
Fran
Lover.
Ria
Red.
Noah
15 seconds.
Ria
Fearless. The life of a showgirl.
Fran
Yes.
Noah
Five seconds.
Fran
We don't know how many. No, that's would have been a help.
Noah
It would.
Ria
You just have to say how many.
Fran
I think that's it.
Ria
Those ones.
Fran
That's all we got.
Noah
Incorrect.
Fran
Those voices.
Guest
Lover. Speak now. Fearless. Speak now. Fearness. Fearless. Lover. Rudd. Life of a showgirl. Life of a showgirl. Evermore is a song, right? Yeah. Evermore is folklore a song? No.
Noah
15 seconds.
Guest
All right, what was it again? Speak now. Fearless Rudd. Lover. Evermore. Life of a showgirl. Six.
Noah
Six.
Ria
Yeah, six.
Noah
Incorrect. You forgot one. The tortured poet society or
Guest
I forgot about that song.
Noah
Seven total.
Fran
Seven total.
Noah
All right, question number 14. And you guys need to get the final two rights sent to overtime. And this is to Molly and Delaney. Shout out Mackenzie from Milwaukee and Baby Brooks. Again.
Ria
Again.
Noah
What actual actor? Thanks. Sal Saperstein. First at the Golden Globes in the show. The studio.
Guest
What actual actor?
Noah
Like real life actor.
Guest
Real life actor who's friends with Seth Roman. Oh, really? Seth Rogen. Final answer incorrect.
Ria
Dave Franco.
Fran
Was he the first one?
Ria
I don't know.
Fran
Is that gonna remember him or. Or Adam Scott?
Ria
Oh, But I don't remember who was the first one.
Fran
Adam Scott was definitely in the mix.
Noah
15 seconds.
Ria
Maybe Adam Scott.
Guest
Yeah.
Fran
Let's go. Adam Scott.
Noah
Final answer correct.
Ria
Nice.
Guest
Wow.
Noah
Remember he said he slept on his couch for like six months? Okay, that seals a victory.
Fran
Nice.
Noah
Five. Two. We'll do the final question and this to Re and Fran. Shout out Lauren from Indianapolis after starring on the Hills. What was the name of Whitney Port's spin off show?
Ria
The City?
Guest
Yeah.
Ria
Final answer correct. Woohoo.
Fran
Great show.
Ria
You know, we picked up steam in the end.
Noah
Six. Two. Finals.
Ria
Yes. Sorry, girls, I'm sorry. You know, I'm celebrating right in front of your face. But I'm happy to win, you know.
Noah
Hey, two is not bad.
Ria
Two is not bad. Thank you guys so much for playing though. Thank you for answering the call last minute.
Fran
Thank you guys so much.
Ria
Thank you so much.
Guest
Seriously.
Fran
Don't me tell. Yeah, don't tell anyone.
Ria
Right? But thank you so much and we'll send you some merch. So send over your address and size and we'll get that sent to you.
Fran
Thank you guys so much.
Ria
Nice meeting you guys. Bye. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you. We love you. We do love you, but we hope you have an amazing weekend. We love you so very much. And we'll talk to you on Monday.
Musical Interlude
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Noah
Longtime listener, first time callers
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Ria
Sam.
Episode: Alex Cooper Calls Out Brianna LaPaglia + Olivia Rodrigo Spotted With New Man
Date: April 17, 2026
Ria and Fran serve up a quintessential pop culture catch-up, centering on the explosive drama between podcasting heavyweights Alex Cooper (Call Her Daddy), Brianna “Chicken Fry” LaPaglia, and TikTok superstar Alex Earl. The episode also covers fresh celebrity sightings (Olivia Rodrigo’s new beau), intriguing casting news (Patrick Schwarzenegger in Beach Read), and pop culture debates about large age-gap relationships, all laced with the signature banter and humor that’s come to define Chicks in the Office.
(03:00–07:30)
(07:32–16:30; Main deep-dive resumes at 39:57)
“I feel like we need Alex Earl to tell us what happened so we can form an educated opinion...at this point it’s a lot of he said, she said.”
— Ria (43:04)
“Just because I was nice to you at some point doesn’t mean I like you now...People are allowed to change their tune.” (47:12)
Memorable Moment:
Brianna’s reaction after being drawn into the drama yet again, joking, “Call me mommy!” and the hosts noting how the Super Bowl has become the epicenter for influencer gossip.
(11:30–21:55)
(25:48–33:04)
“One healthy age gap relationship doesn’t make all age gap relationships healthy.” – Fran (31:25)
(65:42–72:32)
(58:35–65:28)
(72:32–77:17)
The episode brims with the spontaneous, infectious energy and sharp wit that defines Chicks in the Office. Hosts Ria and Fran riff on personal anecdotes, react to breaking pop culture news in real time, and expertly blend humor with critical insight. The conversational style—casually dropping F-bombs, above-average pop culture recall, and the occasional tangent about band names or celebrity ages—makes even inside-baseball influencer drama and media industry topics feel accessible and entertaining to all listeners.
This episode is a must-listen for fans who crave the inside scoop on influencer drama, media power moves, and spot-on takes about modern fandom, band culture, and the minesweeper field of pop culture relationships—served up with relatable millennial energy and plenty of laughs.