Alex Cooper Calls Out Brianna LaPaglia + Olivia Rodrigo Spotted With New Man

Summary

Chicks in the Office – Episode Summary

Episode: Alex Cooper Calls Out Brianna LaPaglia + Olivia Rodrigo Spotted With New Man
Date: April 17, 2026

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Main Theme

Ria and Fran serve up a quintessential pop culture catch-up, centering on the explosive drama between podcasting heavyweights Alex Cooper (Call Her Daddy), Brianna “Chicken Fry” LaPaglia, and TikTok superstar Alex Earl. The episode also covers fresh celebrity sightings (Olivia Rodrigo’s new beau), intriguing casting news (Patrick Schwarzenegger in Beach Read), and pop culture debates about large age-gap relationships, all laced with the signature banter and humor that’s come to define Chicks in the Office.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Host Catch-Up, Personal Life & Weekend Plans

(03:00–07:30)

• Ria and Fran trade weekend plans: Ria surprises her boyfriend Matt with a couple’s massage and a reservation at a coveted NYC restaurant (still secret!), gearing up for their Italy trip and celebrating their one-year anniversary.
• Listeners suggested Florence's famous marble paper as a unique "paper" anniversary gift.
• Ria plans to frame the menu from their anniversary dinner, inspired by a listener’s family tradition.

2. Alex Cooper vs. Brianna Chicken Fry (and the “Alex vs. Alex” Drama)

(07:32–16:30; Main deep-dive resumes at 39:57)

• The hosts react in real time to the brewing feud: Alex Cooper posted Instagram stories calling out Brianna LaPaglia for getting involved in the Cooper/Earl saga, insisting, “We have never met,” and revealing their DMs.
• Receipts quickly emerged proving Cooper and Brianna had met in person (on the BFFs podcast), undermining her story and leading to criticism.
• Brianna fired back publicly, labeling Cooper a "mean girl," adding, “I liked you and was a fan of you before I found out things about you,” and referencing a business move by Cooper (“I don't give a shit about you or Grace. I just want to make money.”) as proof of ruthless ambition.
• Meanwhile, Alex Earl (the center of the original drama) remains publicly silent, while the internet speculates.
  Quote:

“I feel like we need Alex Earl to tell us what happened so we can form an educated opinion...at this point it’s a lot of he said, she said.”
— Ria (43:04)

• Fran draws parallels to the Drake vs. Kendrick rap beef, with Cooper as “Drake” (the established titan) and Earl as “Kendrick” (the challenger).
• Both hosts note how the "mean girl" label is weaponized against ambitious women, often blurring the line between being business-savvy and toxic.
• Fran criticizes Alex Cooper for posting their DMs:

“Just because I was nice to you at some point doesn’t mean I like you now...People are allowed to change their tune.” (47:12)

• They also call out the “girl-on-girl drama” narrative used for clicks, and question if there’s substance behind the bad blood or if it’s all hype.
• Discussion of “girl’s girl” and “mean girl” labels being overused and weaponized in female relationships (52:40).

Memorable Moment:
Brianna’s reaction after being drawn into the drama yet again, joking, “Call me mommy!” and the hosts noting how the Super Bowl has become the epicenter for influencer gossip.

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3. The Joe Jonas Vlog Era

(11:30–21:55)

• Joe Jonas is entering his “vlog era”—Fran spreads the word about his unexpectedly entertaining, short-form YouTube vlogs from Coachella and Orlando.
• Ria proclaims her status as a “Joe Jonas stan,” appreciating his “natural swag, charisma, and humor”—“No, I like, just gave myself chills thinking about him.” (12:58)
• Both discuss the nostalgia for old-school YouTuber vlogs versus the TikTok era and lament how hard it is for vlogs to go viral now (19:19).
• Quick comparative riff: Would Nick or Kevin Jonas’s vlogs be as good (Nick = “businessman, straight-faced;” Joe = “class clown;” Kevin = “reality TV guy”)?

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4. Celebrity Relationship Shockers & Age Gaps

(25:48–33:04)

• Ria reveals her shock that actress Sarah Paulson has been in a decade-long relationship with Holland Taylor (32 years her senior), sparking a broader discussion about public scrutiny of age-gap relationships.
• Hosts compare to typical Hollywood May-December couples (Leo DiCaprio, Bill Belichick, Tobey Maguire).
• They note how large age gaps are judged differently depending on gender and context:

“One healthy age gap relationship doesn’t make all age gap relationships healthy.” – Fran (31:25)

• “To me, it’s just like, what do you have in common?” – Ria (32:27)

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5. Casting News: Patrick Schwarzenegger as Gus in “Beach Read”

(65:42–72:32)

• BookTok is “up in arms” about Patrick Schwarzenegger’s casting, as fans don’t think he fits the physical description or vibe of Augustus Everett.
• Ria, who didn’t read the book, is “as upset as everyone else,” mostly riffing on “frat boy, brother fucker” vibes (70:14).
• Fran urges everyone to give the casting a chance, referencing test chemistry with co-star Phoebe Dynevor as why he landed the part.

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6. Olivia Rodrigo Spotted with New Man – Cameron Winter from Geese

(58:35–65:28)

• Olivia Rodrigo was seen on a dinner date with Cameron Winter, lead singer of indie-rock band Geese (not to be confused with the band Goose).
• This seems to confirm her split from actor Lewis Partridge.
• Light-hearted side tangent about how confusing and random band names are ("Why is it not Geese, why is it Goose?").
• Fun riff: “Geese makes more sense because it’s multiple people.” — Noah (60:49)

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7. Ticketmaster/Live Nation Monopoly Lawsuit

(72:32–77:17)

• The hosts break down a recent jury ruling that Live Nation and Ticketmaster operated as an illegal monopoly, leading to possible company breakup and hundreds of millions in refunds (potentially $1.72 per ticket for overcharging).
• The hosts are skeptical anything meaningful will change for consumers in the short-term but agree it’s a “small win” for music fans.
• They critique how little recourse fans have: “At the end of the day, this is a small win of recognition that, yes, you were and are screwing over millions of people who are trying to go see concerts.” — Fran (77:19)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Alex Drama

• “We need Alex Earl to tell us what happened so that we can form educated opinion on what went down...right now, it’s a lot of he said, she said.” — Ria (43:04)
• “Just because I was nice to you at some point doesn’t mean I like you now.” — Fran (47:12)
• “Never post a TikTok again without the comments being ‘tell us what happened.’” — Ria (54:23)

Jonas Bros Musings

• “I have to come out right now as a Joe Jonas stan. I really am.” — Ria (12:13)
• “He’s got all of it. And he was joking about his girlfriend...He did make a ‘send it on’ joke.” — Fran (14:08)
• “The old way of vlogging is...gone. It’s TikTok now.” — Ria (19:00)

Age Gap Relationships

• “I was stunned. Like, Sarah Paulson is with an 83-year-old woman right now.” — Ria (26:51)
• “One healthy 50-year age gap doesn’t make all age gap relationships healthy.” — Fran (31:33)

Casting Reactions

• “Girls are screaming into their TikTok...Patrick Schwarzenegger for Gus? I refuse to see this movie.” — Fran (65:56)
• “You’re casting the frat boy, brother fucker as our Gus Everett.” — Fran (70:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Personal Catch-Up & Weekend Plans: 03:00–07:30
• Alex vs. Brianna Drama: 07:32–16:30, resumes at 39:57–56:59
• Joe Jonas Vlog Era: 11:30–21:55
• Sarah Paulson & Age-Gap Discussion: 25:48–33:04
• Name Dropping, Hollywood Rom-Coms: 34:00–38:00
• Patrick Schwarzenegger Casting: 65:42–72:32
• Ticketmaster Lawsuit: 72:32–77:19
• Olivia Rodrigo & Cameron Winter: 58:35–65:28

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Tone & Flow

The episode brims with the spontaneous, infectious energy and sharp wit that defines Chicks in the Office. Hosts Ria and Fran riff on personal anecdotes, react to breaking pop culture news in real time, and expertly blend humor with critical insight. The conversational style—casually dropping F-bombs, above-average pop culture recall, and the occasional tangent about band names or celebrity ages—makes even inside-baseball influencer drama and media industry topics feel accessible and entertaining to all listeners.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a must-listen for fans who crave the inside scoop on influencer drama, media power moves, and spot-on takes about modern fandom, band culture, and the minesweeper field of pop culture relationships—served up with relatable millennial energy and plenty of laughs.

Transcript

[Fran]

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[Fran]

what's up everyone?

[Ria]

It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Happy Friday everybody. This podcast is presented by Microsoft 365 copilot. Before we get into all of the drama, because there is a ton today, we need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives organized right now. And that is Microsoft 365 copilot.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

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[Fran]

Good. I'm excited for the weekend. It's one of my oldest friends weddings this weekend, so I'm very excited. And my parents are going to be up for it too, so I haven't seen them in a while. So get to see them.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Fran]

And yeah, it's going to be nice. I mean we just, we're getting like July and April right now. It's 85 it's been 85 degrees every day this week, which is lovely. And we'll just go back to.

[Noah]

I. I'll agree with Fran. I don't want to be the. The. Like, this is too much.

[Fran]

This is a drastic jump.

[Noah]

Well, here's the thing. It's the AC thing.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

In the buildings, they turned.

[Fran]

They f. They had. They had no choice. I think enough people were like, ah,

[Noah]

wait, they turned yours on?

[Fran]

Yeah, they. They turned our AC on. I think enough. I think enough of my building was like, we can't have this.

[Ria]

We.

[Fran]

We can't have this much.

[Noah]

An ice pack on my neck.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Noah]

I. I was dying.

[Ria]

I couldn't breathe.

[Noah]

I was hitting my inhalers.

[Ria]

Every fight right now.

[Noah]

What?

[Ria]

You happy to be?

[Noah]

I said I might sleep in the studio tonight.

[Fran]

Well, just think back. Just think only a few more days because next week is. The low is going to be 35 degrees.

[Noah]

But I got to go all in May. Like, I don't think they do till the end of May. My building.

[Ria]

You could do it.

[Fran]

I have faith that it is hard when it's. When it's that late in the year. I think it was just like, so many hot days in a row that just. It wasn't gonna. It wasn't gonna work. So.

[Ria]

But I.

[Fran]

Which is nice. Cause I did get to sleep with air conditioning on.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Fran]

For the first time in a while. But no, other than that, I'm. I'm good. I'm looking forward to the weekend.

[Ria]

Yeah, me too. Matt's birthday's on Saturday. I'm so excited. Got some surprises. I booked a hotel with a couple's massage and then a dinner reservation for a restaurant he's really been wanting to go to. He talks about it, and this is, like, the first time I was able to keep this in because I've held onto this for, like, two months now that I had this reservation. And every day I think about telling him. Every day I tease it a little bit more. And we are finally, finally there. No.

[Noah]

So are you not worried about this being out tomorrow?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

He knows they're going to have dinner, but not.

[Noah]

Oh, okay.

[Ria]

Yeah. No, he's not gonna listen to this episode tomorrow. I don't think.

[Noah]

Marty. Really good episode.

[Fran]

She also didn't say what the restaurant was.

[Noah]

Well, I feel like if he heard that, he'd probably know. No, like, no, no.

[Fran]

I'm saying I got a big reservation for you.

[Noah]

Said he really wants to go.

[Ria]

He does, but there's, like, a couple of spots he really wants to go to. So it's. But I have held on, and I haven't said it, and I'm so proud of myself because, wow. There's been a couple of times where we've been laying in bed where I've been like.

[Fran]

I'm shocked, too. Do you want to know?

[Ria]

No, I'm not telling you, but I want to tell you, but no. Maybe we can look at the menu. Oh, no. So I'm really excited, but I just.

[Fran]

No one loves dangling a surprise more than you.

[Ria]

I know. The both of us, we do it to each other, and then I'm like,

[Fran]

I get a surprise. Oh, get it? Oh, I got a surprise.

[Ria]

Do you know, the last time we talked about it together, we left you. We were with you. We left. I said, do you want to know?

[Fran]

He said, no.

[Ria]

He said, stop.

[Fran]

We went to get breakfast in Minneapolis, and she showed me the restaurant from across, like, she handed me her phone and was like, this is the restaurant. He was sitting right there next to us. Like, she loves.

[Ria]

It's like.

[Fran]

It's like this hair. Doesn't that smell good? Ah, you can't eat it yet. I love building up the hype. I love it.

[Ria]

But it's finally here. I've held on for so long.

[Fran]

I'm so proud of myself.

[Ria]

But, yeah, the most, you know, nice massage, a couple more surprises, and it'll be great. So I am so, so excited. I love celebrating people and their birthdays, and he just deserves it. So I'm just. I'm so excited. And honestly, I really want to go to this restaurant, too. So, like, obviously, I. Cause he.

[Fran]

Well, it's a win for both.

[Ria]

Well, it's a win for both. He's like, wait, but are you. Are you excited to.

[Fran]

I'm like, oh, my God, of course.

[Ria]

And I was with two of my friends yesterday, and one of them was like, oh, there's only one place in the city that I really want to go to right now. And said, the restaurant. And I was like, that's where I'm taking Matt on Saturday. And I was, like, bragging about having a reservation, because I was like, ha, ha. I've had it for two months.

[Noah]

But, yeah, well, now I'm curious where it is.

[Ria]

I'll tell you after.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, don't worry. She'll tell you. Don't worry.

[Ria]

I have no problem telling you after. But I am. I'm really so, so excited. And then we go to Italy on Wednesday. I'm so excited.

[Fran]

I'm so excited for you guys. You're gonna have the best time.

[Ria]

We really are. Like, I just. And thank you to all of our lovely listeners who let me know that Florence is also known for their marble paper, because paper being the one year anniversary gift.

[Fran]

And I said, oh, I wish it

[Ria]

was leather because of Florence. But turns out they're known for their paper as well.

[Fran]

Right?

[Ria]

Obviously.

[Fran]

Of course.

[Ria]

Well, of course.

[Fran]

And then, I mean, even that you could even, you know, there's paper in a leather bound book.

[Ria]

Yes. But somebody also gave me a great idea that they said that their parents framed a menu from wherever they went for their anniversary and they've had it forever now. So wherever we go for dinner on the day of our anniversary, we're gonna ask for a menu so that we could frame that for. That's a good idea, too. Yeah. That's cute. Yeah, it's so cute. Right? I'm so excited.

[Fran]

My parents actually had that. My parents had that too, but it wasn't because of the anniversary. But like the restaurant they went to on their honeymoon.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

They had a big menu framed.

[Ria]

I love that.

[Fran]

Forever. I don't know where it went, but somewhere.

[Ria]

Somewhere.

[Fran]

So sweet.

[Ria]

I love that. So, yeah. I'm so excited. But besides all of that. Listen, yesterday, walking around the city, you know, with my friend, waiting for some drama to drop. When's it gonna happen? Sit down to get my nails done. Boom. Yeah, boom. Alex Cooper posts on her Instagram story about Briana chicken fry.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And right before that, you passed by the window of the nail place and you were headed into a facial. We waved to each other like, we never see each other. It was like we were like jumping up and down, like. And Fran texted me, like, why did we just act like we never see each other? It was super exciting. I said, it's like seeing.

[Fran]

There's something about seeing you also out and about in the city, because it's like, you're not. You're never out.

[Ria]

My nails done in the city?

[Fran]

No, no, you're in the city. It's either you're coming to work or we're like getting a meal somewhere.

[Ria]

Yeah. Going to dinner. But I usually got my nails done in Jersey, but I had to try your nail spot because my nail place is booked up. I don't know what's going on, but I had to try the nail spot. So I see you, I'm like, ah. Then all of a sudden, like, five minutes later, this drops. And I'm thinking in my head, oh, my God, you know, I can't use my hands. That much right now. But I could see poor Fran is in a facial.

[Fran]

And I had no idea, no idea

[Ria]

that this is happening.

[Fran]

And I had like, you know, just after a good facial and you just have like, you feel kind of drunk when you get up because you're sort of like, I'm dozing off a little bit. I without fail will be like partially asleep when I haven't been wearing it as much for when I did wear my aura ring very consistently when I'd go in for a facial, I'd be like, did you take a nap? Like, it would register me sleeping.

[Ria]

Wow.

[Fran]

So I get up, I'm like. And I look at my phone. I was like, ah. Oh my God. I stopped. I took one step outside the door and just like stopped on the sidewalk and had to read what everybody was sending. So I was like, holy shit.

[Ria]

Right? It just. A lot's going on midday and now It's Thursday around 3pm and we're sitting here and we're going. No video from Alex Earl yet?

[Fran]

No, no.

[Ria]

So you know, if it happens over the weekend, everyone will hear about it on Monday because at this point we don't have anything.

[Fran]

I know. And she keeps posting, doing all these other activities. So she's at brunch today, honey. Where's the video? She must be busy. She's in the office. She's brunch. She's walking the dog, you know.

[Ria]

Yeah. And it doesn't look like she care. Like she's not bothered because everybody is hounding her. Like, give us. Tell us if she posts another tik tok that is not about this. Which she hasn't. All the comments are going to be

[Fran]

like, okay, but yeah, you know, where's the.

[Noah]

Has to be like painful for Alex Cooper? Like because you're just kind of like on edge.

[Ria]

Oh, she's making sweat.

[Noah]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

That. That could be part of it.

[Ria]

No one. I have really just dug too deep into the Drake vs. Kendrick of this all. Sending each other lyrics of like, who's who, you know, drop, drop, drop.

[Noah]

I think I'm ready to lock in that Alex Cooper is Drake in this scenario and Alex Earl is.

[Ria]

We'll have to do a deeper dive on the lyrics. I mean.

[Fran]

Yeah. And also it really depends on what Earl says.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Because it's like everyone was. So when the Drake and Kendrick, everyone was going back and forth. It really wasn't until.

[Noah]

But it.

[Fran]

What was the one song Kendrick was

[Ria]

like, you're a pedophile.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

And Then and then, like, it was

[Fran]

like everyone was kind of like, oh, Kendrick's got nothing. This isn't. And then it was like, boom.

[Noah]

But there wasn't the element of, like, it felt as if the whole industry was against Drake. And it's like, Drake's been top. He's been the top guy. Alex Cooper's been the top woman in this industry. And now it's like, it's not just Alex Earl's the main one. She's Kendrick. But we got other people coming out of the woodwork too, being like, Noah.

[Ria]

Noah said that Brianna was metro boomin. I mean, because when some. Because metro boomin. When he threw his two cents in and Drake was like, shut up.

[Noah]

Yeah, that's basically Alex was like, shut up. Back to Alex Earl.

[Ria]

It's just crazy. It's crazy. All right, well, we'll get into the topics. We gotta get into that.

[Fran]

Oh, there is one more thing that I want to bring up and, you know, falls in line with a little Friday energy on a Friday presented by Acorns. But Joe Jonas has gotten himself into the vlog game. I don't know if you've noticed, but he's been posting YouTube videos. They're like short, five minute, seven minute vlogs. He did one for Coachella with Teddy Swims, and he did one for being on or in Orlando with Demi. And it's like him getting ready to go meet Demi. Do sound like he's a camera guy. Someone's filming. He's always with somebody.

[Guest]

You.

[Ria]

You said this wasn't important news. As if this isn't the most important news. I've heard all you're looking at me.

[Fran]

I'm shocked that you're so shocked by this.

[Ria]

I'm not shocked. I'm shocked that I didn't know. Oh, no, I didn't see.

[Fran]

He is vlogging.

[Ria]

I am a Joe Jonas.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

I gotta be honest.

[Fran]

You're gonna love his vlogs.

[Ria]

I really. I. I have to come out right now as a Joe Jonas. Stan. I think we, like, knew that it was there. Yeah. But, like, I really am. I mean, man. And you know what he does? He does this thing. He does this thing, you know, this thing where he throws his chin up and his neck comes out a little bit. And he did it in the TikTok with Demi. The I'm Mr. Charisma.

[Fran]

Pablo Escobar. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

And then he comes out,

[Fran]

he does

[Ria]

this thing with his shoulders and his neck, and it's like, I'm Joe Jonas.

[Fran]

In this, like, Joe Jonas swag.

[Ria]

No, I, I like, just gave myself chills thinking about him.

[Fran]

Like, my God, Joe Jonas swag.

[Guest]

Right?

[Noah]

He's singing the national anthem at.

[Ria]

Yes. Like, it truly doesn't matter how short he is because he just has.

[Fran]

He has all of it.

[Ria]

He has the swag. He. He really does. I was walking around the city with Emma and Julie from comicsbyslubs yesterday and they were like, you know who the ideal person to run into right now would be?

[Guest]

Joe Jonas.

[Ria]

Joe Jonas. I said, absolutely it would be Joe Jonas because, you know, I would hope he would maybe remember me. I don't know though. They meet so many people and.

[Fran]

But we've. No, he's.

[Ria]

We've had a lot of time with them and they were like, oh, he follows the account. That'd be perfect. If we ran into Joe Jonas right

[Fran]

now, I don't think he'd look at you and be like, who are you again? He'd be like, I don't know. Do you remember Jonas Kahn?

[Ria]

Yeah. Do you remember when we hosted Jonas Con? He just got that.

[Fran]

That. Yes.

[Ria]

And it's natural. You know, you would think maybe he's

[Fran]

trying hard, but he's not. That's naturally. It's a natural suave.

[Ria]

That is naturally Joe.

[Fran]

And he's always had it.

[Noah]

This is average Joe.

[Ria]

You're right.

[Fran]

That is just average.

[Ria]

Yeah. Fucking Joe.

[Fran]

He's always had it. Joe Jonas.

[Ria]

A lot of charisma.

[Fran]

Yeah. He's got a. He's got it all. And he was joking about his girlfriend in the. In the vlog and he was laughing about. He did make a send it on joke. He was like, I'm going with Demi to perform Friends for Change. He was like, haha. Just kidding.

[Ria]

He's very in tune.

[Fran]

He's in. He's in the know. He's an Internet guy. He gets all the jokes.

[Ria]

Humorous.

[Fran]

Yes. And there's like a.

[Ria]

Not only is he hot. Yeah.

[Fran]

He's funny and he's funny and he's

[Ria]

got a great voice. And not enough people appreciate his voice because when he tries to do solo shit, it's like no one cares. And to me that's is rude. And by the way, I don't care either. And so like, I'm talking. I. I am talking to myself.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

You know what I mean? I don't know. I can go on and on about this, but I'll cut myself short.

[Fran]

No, I. Yes. And it is funny. He joked in like him doing the WWE national anthem. I think he had said originally his team or whoever was like, showed it to him and they were like, well, this is. This is like a pass, right? And he was like, what? No, like, I'm doing this.

[Ria]

Did he do it, like, with a lot of.

[Fran]

No, he hasn't done it yet. It's this weekend, I think.

[Ria]

Do you think he's going to do, like, a body?

[Noah]

I feel like they're going to like. Yeah, he's got to be involved somehow. Yeah. I don't know.

[Fran]

I don't know what's happening, but it's. He was telling Big Rob about it. He was like, you got to come because I'm. I'm. I'm doing this. And they were laughing about it.

[Ria]

Isn't it funny when the team hits you with like, this is an obvious no. And they're like, wait, yeah.

[Fran]

You're like, wait, I'm sorry.

[Ria]

Obvious. Yes.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

I feel like that's happened with us before.

[Ria]

It has. You were like, wait, wait, wait. Backtrack. Absolutely.

[Fran]

I would do that 100%. So that. That gave me a. That gave me a good giggle.

[Ria]

Damn. You mind if I step out or watch?

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. They're short. It's like a seven minute video.

[Ria]

I'll be back. Yeah.

[Fran]

It's like him. Him with Demi, you know, he gets to sing the lyrics on the line, you know, Our love was tragical. He's like, that's not a word, is it?

[Ria]

Tragical. Oh, my gosh.

[Fran]

That's the word.

[Ria]

That's. I said, snot boy, my nose. Tragical.

[Fran]

Our love was tragical yeah, we had it all destined to fall Tragical.

[Ria]

That is crazy. Yeah.

[Fran]

And he was like, that's definitely not a word. Right.

[Ria]

In the words of Harry Styles. That's an insane lyric.

[Fran]

Yes. But it worked at the time. When they wrote the song in 2008, I think they just had to make it up.

[Ria]

I think you do have kind of a past to make up words when you're. When you're making songs, though.

[Fran]

I agree.

[Ria]

You know, who's.

[Fran]

Sometimes you just want it to a

[Ria]

certain degree, of course.

[Fran]

But I think that you need something

[Ria]

to flow and you just want to throw in an Al or an Ly

[Noah]

or it's like the pronunciation of it people really, like.

[Ria]

Right. You know, like a rapper could change the pronunciation to make things rhyme. I think Eminem has done that a ton. Nicki Minaj has done it a ton. Lil Wayne has done it a ton. It's just like, to make things tragical

[Fran]

really is a word, though.

[Ria]

Tragical.

[Fran]

Yeah, it.

[Ria]

You know what? Now that you say it, it definitely is a word. Well, it's just like.

[Fran]

I think it's like the way it's said in the song. You're like, all love was tragic. You don't like, necessarily think of it that way, but it's just tragic defined as a variant or archaic form of tragic.

[Ria]

Wait, but what about. Oh, tragically it is a word.

[Fran]

Yes. It is less common in modern usage than tragic because it's like. You would use it the same way as tragic.

[Ria]

Wow, that's tragical.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I'm gonna start using that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Oh, my God, that outfit is tragic.

[Fran]

Tragical.

[Ria]

Yeah. God, that haircut is tragical.

[Fran]

Such a good song.

[Ria]

Tragical. Hallelujah. Oh, damn.

[Fran]

But yeah, I just wanted to mention that I'm. I'm locked into Joe Jonas's vlogs and he's. He's. He's in the game. He's doing it. He's. He's got like the effects. Little short, you know, Nothing, nothing wrong. Five minutes, seven minutes.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I wonder if it's on. It's probably on his own channel, right? For. Hey, I'm Joe Jonas. Welcome back to my channel.

[Ria]

For Matt's birthday, I'm going to be like, God, got us a hotel room. Step inside.

[Fran]

I was actually on the Jones walk in YouTube.

[Ria]

It's just Joe Jonas's vlogs. This is what we're doing tonight, honey.

[Fran]

It's on. It's The Jonas Brothers YouTube. But the vlogs are just what I did today. Smiley face. That's what each vlog is called.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. He's the new David Dobrik.

[Fran]

Yeah. Look at him just looking in the camera. And Ben, he's going. He's going, wait, let's see.

[Ria]

I am booked and busy later for 14 minutes.

[Fran]

Yeah. He's literally the new David Dobrik.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yep.

[Guest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

Everyone was like, I'm loving this vlog era. My king. I, Joe, keep vlogging.

[Ria]

I don't know what's going on, but it's almost bringing me to tears because I haven't had somebody in a long time that I could watch on YouTube's vlogs.

[Fran]

Like the old, the old way of vlogging is. It's gone.

[Ria]

It's gone. It's TikTok now. But like, I, for a long about it, spent a lot of time on YouTube watching people's vlogs.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, I was kind of like depressed and whatever and just like, you know, found myself watching way Too many David Dobrik vlogs at one point. You know, I applaud anyone. But now. But it's been a while.

[Fran]

It's hard, really.

[Ria]

Like got into some vlogs.

[Fran]

What I'm saying it's hard to do. I said I applaud anyone. That still really grinds on the vlogs because it feels less. Like you get less recognition for vlogging. For vlogging. Like the views don't show. Reflect all the hard work you put into the. Into the editing of the vlogs. When people just like put short things out on TikTok and then they like blow up and get millions of views, you know, then you go and you watch someone's vlog and you're like, wow, that was so great and well done and edited. But it has like 20,000 views. Meanwhile, like the clip that they put out from it has like a million. You know.

[Ria]

How many?

[Fran]

One.

[Ria]

How many views Joe have?

[Fran]

Six. 65.

[Ria]

That's it for Joe Jonas.

[Fran]

65K. It did come out a day ago.

[Ria]

Right, but that's like they want us

[Noah]

to be doing vlogs.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

So John is 65K.

[Ria]

Yeah. And the Giants can't even break. Break 100.

[Fran]

Excuse me? The one from Coachella. Hundred 24K.

[Noah]

That seems low though. Like, to be at Coachella as Joe

[Ria]

Jonas and coming out to perform with Teddi Swims. Yeah.

[Fran]

Guys, here's the thing.

[Ria]

We're not yelling at you.

[Fran]

We're spreading the.

[Ria]

Hey, honey, honey, we're not yelling at you. We're just talking in general.

[Fran]

I'm spreading the good word. Because neither of you knew Joe Jonas was making vlogs.

[Ria]

Exactly. He's not promoting it enough. Clearly.

[Noah]

Would Nick get more views on his vlog?

[Fran]

But he posted on stories.

[Ria]

Vlogs would be boring as all hell.

[Fran]

You know what? That's not even fair.

[Ria]

I'm kidding.

[Noah]

I didn't say it.

[Ria]

Yes, I did.

[Noah]

I posed a question. She said.

[Ria]

I said no. You said he didn't say anything. He posed. By the way, you're getting in trouble for something. I said that was.

[Noah]

Nicks would be boring. How dare you, Noah.

[Fran]

That was. That was a instigating.

[Ria]

No, it wasn't. I don't think so at all. I think he genuinely.

[Noah]

I mean, I don't think he were genuinely asking. Nick's got more followers.

[Ria]

I think Nick would get more views. I just think his would be more boring. He's not as.

[Fran]

Yeah, but Nick's not vlogging.

[Ria]

Nick is very.

[Fran]

If Nick started vlogging Nick's not vlogging.

[Ria]

We're just discussing the hypothetical. What? We were literally. We literally brought up the hypothetical. If he did start vlogging.

[Fran]

If he did start vlogging.

[Ria]

She's like, it doesn't matter. He's not vlogging.

[Noah]

Hey, he's not vlogging.

[Fran]

I don't know. If he did start vlogging, people would watch. Yeah. And I don't even.

[Noah]

They watched the first one.

[Ria]

I want to take back. I put a lot into it about him being. He's not. That was a joke. He's not boring as hell. He is very funny. He's low key funny. Yep. Joe is more of, like, a showman in the sense of, like, he's loudly funny, whereas Nick is a little more shy.

[Noah]

Like business meetings. Like, it'd be very serious.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Nick is like.

[Ria]

Like, he's a little bit more serious

[Fran]

and he doesn't want to show his full no cards. Nick's got, like, the sarcastic funny thing. Joe's, like, voted class clown.

[Noah]

Nick's a straight guy.

[Fran]

It's a different kind of humor.

[Noah]

Like, it's at the other guys. Like, Nick is Mark Wahlberg and Joe is Will Ferrell. You know, I'm saying I don't fully

[Fran]

understand the comparison, like, knowledge for the.

[Noah]

Nick is funny with, like, someone to bounce off of. Like, with his straight act.

[Ria]

Yes, yes, yes. Like, Nick is funny when he's making fun of Kevin. And yes, I had to pull Kevin into the next year. Now, Kevin, he's not vlogging, but he did have a show once upon a time.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

He had a whole reality show.

[Fran]

He was in the reality TV game.

[Ria]

So he. He probably would be a good vlogger. And he's got his kids and stuff.

[Fran]

It'd be like, oh, they'd probably want to vlog themselves.

[Ria]

They do that. That would be good vlogging.

[Fran]

Yeah. They all want to get into the vlog game. Joe's just on these side quests, like, doing all these things solo. So I feel like they were like, hey, let's get this content out there.

[Ria]

Yeah. Because he's like, well, the solo music's not working. Yeah. What if I just go into vlogging?

[Fran]

Nick's filming a movie right now, so he's busy.

[Ria]

A ROM com.

[Fran]

No, different.

[Ria]

Okay, but did you see the rom com? Yes.

[Fran]

Yes. He is gonna be in a rom com. It sounded like the plot of Baby daddy. Yeah.

[Ria]

Do you think he's baby daddy? What's baby daddy?

[Fran]

Big daddy.

[Ria]

Big daddy. Big Daddy.

[Fran]

That was a Freudian slip. Actually, I think Nick's starring in a new movie called My Baby Daddy.

[Ria]

Did you.

[Fran]

You see that one?

[Ria]

Directed by Francesco Mariano.

[Fran]

Oh, it's like a take on Big Daddy, I think.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Fran]

Like, it's like single, like single bachelor. Like, has to take care of his cousin's kid or.

[Ria]

And he's playing the single bachelor.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

I'm wondering, like, what are the rules when it comes to him. And Priyanka was like kissing other actors.

[Fran]

I don't think she probably have them. She was just in that. She was kissing Sam Heughan in that movie they were in.

[Ria]

Oh, right, right. No, I'm not like against either way. I just am curious.

[Noah]

She. She's in the biz.

[Ria]

Yeah, she's in the biz. She gets it, I think. But there are some people now, like George Clooney recently said how he was

[Noah]

like, he's an old man.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

When you get up there. Yeah.

[Ria]

He's like, at this point, I won't be kissing other people. Like, that's. I've drawn the line now.

[Fran]

Yeah. There's a couple other actresses who have said that too, where they're like, I just don't need to.

[Noah]

You guys know that Liam Neeson and Helen Mirren dated. I just saw a video. They were doing an interview the other day and he was like, so nice about pre.

[Fran]

His what? Pre Natasha.

[Noah]

Like, they were young, like, oh, wow.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Guys, I need to bring up something that I have actually held onto for months now that I kept meaning to bring up.

[Guest]

Okay.

[Ria]

And it just reminded me right now. I had no idea that Sarah Paulson and. And the mother from Two and a Half Men were together. Oh, my God. Yeah, I had. For years. For years. I had no clue. And I saw them step out at an award show together and was like, Holland Taylor.

[Fran]

They've been together for at least a decade. Yeah, 2015.

[Ria]

A long ass time.

[Noah]

I didn't even know that she dated women.

[Fran]

Is that what you're gonna say?

[Ria]

Yeah, well, yeah, okay, but.

[Fran]

Long awkward pause.

[Noah]

No, I was just trying to think of the most polite way to say it.

[Ria]

Yeah, but no, I just had no idea. I was stunned. I said, these two are together for this long. Yeah, that's always very stunning. It's like when you found out that Maya Rudolph was with Paul Thomas Anderson. Right. And they have kids. Right.

[Noah]

You're like, Sarah Paulson is with. With an 83 year old woman right now.

[Ria]

What the fuck?

[Fran]

Yes, they have a. Thank you, 32 year age gap. Thank you for the.

[Noah]

How is this not talked about?

[Fran]

I know it's talked about. It's talked about plenty.

[Ria]

Is it Because I was stunned.

[Noah]

Wait, I'm seeing these pictures and I feel like I've seen them before because they're at like the Emmys and stuff,

[Fran]

but I probably saw every cartoon together.

[Ria]

Like I thought she was bringing her aunt on the carpet. I said, they're dating.

[Noah]

Why is this not like discussed?

[Fran]

It is. They talk about. They talk.

[Noah]

Double standard. People talk about Leo.

[Fran]

No, Leo's not dating a guy.

[Noah]

But would that change it? I don't think whether it's a guy, guy, woman, woman like this. I don't think it should change. This is a.

[Fran]

No, this is a.

[Ria]

But they started dating a large guy.

[Fran]

Neither of them were like, Sarah Paulson wasn't 20 or in her teens when she started dating.

[Ria]

No, no, but.

[Fran]

But it is an established adult.

[Ria]

Yes, they're both established adults. But it is quite the jump of an age gap.

[Fran]

It absolutely is.

[Ria]

Like HOLLAND Taylor being 83.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And how old, Sarah?

[Noah]

52, 51.

[Ria]

It is wild.

[Noah]

She was in her 80s and she was in her 40s it's why a

[Fran]

couple years they met at a dinner party where Paulson was and when Paulson was dating Cherry Jones. Paulson has said Taylor was the most exquisite, exquisitely beautiful woman she'd ever seen.

[Noah]

What year, like, was she like 70 at that?

[Fran]

2015.

[Ria]

So she was 23.

[Fran]

Or maybe they met before that, but they've been together since 2015.

[Noah]

This is stunning.

[Ria]

So you're just as stunned as I was.

[Noah]

First of all, I didn't know that she dated women. That doesn't really like, that's not anything new or anything crazy. But you're dating an 83 year old.

[Ria]

83 year old. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. What. It is wild. What else has Holland Taylor been in? Because I, I, Why do I know a ton for sure? She's been in everything. But I for some reason said Two and a Half Men, like, that's where my brain went. Oh, she's from Philly.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

Third, born and last.

[Noah]

Let's see, she's.

[Ria]

She. Oh, she's been in the morning show. She was in Billions. But like, what about the early, the early days of Holland?

[Noah]

Silent films?

[Ria]

Charlie Chaplin.

[Guest]

Oh, shit.

[Ria]

Yeah. Wow. Oh, Spy Kids. She's the grandma inspired.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

She's the grandma in Spy Kids that came out in 2002. Yeah.

[Noah]

She played a grandma 25 years ago.

[Fran]

Yeah. During a 2020 interview.

[Guest]

I'm wearing a gray shirt.

[Fran]

Sarah Paulson has she. Because they have gotten a lot of backlash for their relationship. Yeah. And Jude said, I don't remember people going nuts about Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones in terms of their age difference. She said, I think people are fascinated by it because it's not so typical, obviously.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tragical.

[Noah]

Wait, so Holland Taylor didn't, like, was never married before or never had a partner like before.

[Fran]

I know. I think she did.

[Noah]

I don't, like, I'm on her Wikipedia. I don't see anything other than Sarah Paulson under partner

[Ria]

I can't find. You're looking for.

[Fran]

I can't find her dating history. No, I think she was with. I think she was also in like a previously long relationship before.

[Ria]

She has lived a very quiet personal life. She didn't come out until later in life.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

But because she doesn't want to be defined by labels.

[Noah]

I mean, hey, she's winning in this scenario.

[Ria]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Noah]

I mean, you're dating like, she's.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Only 50.

[Fran]

Have like they, you know, they beat to their own drum. Like, I don't, I think They, I think they live separately so they have their own like they're you know, very independent lives but they're also together and yeah. Spend a lot of time together like, but they still, still sort of have their own thing. It is, it is. Let me tell you.

[Ria]

It is fascinating.

[Noah]

I'm shocked out here getting crucified.

[Ria]

I had no idea. What's the age gap between Bill and

[Noah]

I think it's actually more because he's like in a, it's probably like over 40.

[Ria]

Yeah. Bill Belichick and Jordan age gap. I mean it doesn't, one doesn't make the other one like okay, it's not like, oh, suddenly Bill Belichick shouldn't be getting shit just because Holland Taylor and Sarah Paulson are dating. Y Both are bizarre.

[Fran]

1, 1 healthy 50 year age gap, 1 healthy age gap relationship doesn't make all age gap relationships.

[Ria]

Right, right. There's 49 years between Belichick the new one that people are, she's in her 20s. Yeah.

[Noah]

Are really disgusted by is Toby Maguire. He's dating like a 19 year old.

[Ria]

Oh yeah. Toby Maguire is always dating.

[Fran]

James Marson's new girlfriend's like 20, 27. That's not as how old is, he's like 50 something.

[Noah]

He's like 50, I think but like I'm, I'm just saying like Rose, 25 years. 27 isn't like a child, you know,

[Fran]

like 27, but that's still 25 years.

[Ria]

He's 52.

[Noah]

That's not, that's not much younger than you.

[Fran]

Yeah, I, I, I could have been an option. Yeah, I'm probably too old for him.

[Noah]

52, 27. So it's, it's big. But like in Hollywood we seem way crazier than that.

[Ria]

Well, Sarah Wells and Alan Taylor.

[Noah]

Leo, Leo is the same age.

[Fran]

Leo doesn't get to set the bar

[Ria]

for every other guy in the world.

[Fran]

I'm just saying like every other guy can, every other old ass guy can be like, well I could date a girl in my 20s because Leo does it. Right.

[Ria]

Right. No, listen, at the end of the day I just like a big age gap relationships. To me I'm just like, what do you have in common?

[Fran]

Yeah. And I agree.

[Ria]

And here's the thing. Sarah Paulson being 50 something years old getting together with, with a 70 something year old Holland Taylor is to me a little bit different than an old man getting together with a young 20 something year old girl.

[Fran]

It's, it's big.

[Ria]

It's not creepy big time. Like you know What? I mean, like, it's less creepy.

[Noah]

Yeah, well, we always talk about what's his face. Kick ass kid.

[Fran]

Aaron Taylor Johnson.

[Ria]

That. That's creepy. Yeah.

[Fran]

I mean, he was. Felt like he was like 18. Like.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Mildly different.

[Ria]

Yeah. Anyway, shocking, though, still fascinating.

[Noah]

Maybe not creepy, but, like, probably the most stunned I've ever been.

[Ria]

It is definitely stunning.

[Noah]

Those pictures are.

[Fran]

I just can't believe that you. I'm just shocked at, like, Noah, who's been working like, the chicks in the

[Noah]

office, but we've never talked about it.

[Fran]

I know, Just. I'm just saying you've been working like the chicks on Instagram, like, posting red carpet photos for so long. That's. We.

[Ria]

We've probably thought that they were, like,

[Noah]

on a show together. Like, that's her mom. Like, I don't know.

[Ria]

I found out from our account, like, we posted a picture of them together and I thought to myself, I'm pretty sure we did. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.

[Fran]

Maybe I'm thinking, like, co stars.

[Noah]

I thought to myself, oh, she brought her mom.

[Guest]

That's cute.

[Fran]

I was like, oh, they got a close relationship.

[Ria]

What movie did they do together?

[Fran]

I didn't know damn well to bring it all back around. Nick Jonas will be starring in a new rom com that is. He follows a carefree bachelor who, after unexpectedly inheriting his cousin's infant, faces a custody battle with the child's godmother during the holidays.

[Ria]

Thrilling.

[Fran]

So it's like a mix of baby daddy and baby Daddy. I just did it again. Jesus Christ. Big Daddy and Big Daddy. And what's. What's.

[Ria]

God, I just can't stop thinking about his big daddy.

[Fran]

I know. What's. Fuck. What's the movie with Katherine Heigl and

[Ria]

Josh Duhamel knocked up.

[Musical Interlude]

No.

[Fran]

Life as we Know It.

[Ria]

Life as We Know It.

[Fran]

A little mix of those. Yeah.

[Ria]

You know Josh Duhamel, man.

[Fran]

You're battling for custody, and it's being directed by this. The guy who directed the Duff.

[Ria]

Oh, love that movie. Good movie.

[Fran]

One of my favorites.

[Ria]

Same. Oh, we love that movie. Yeah. So, Baby Daddy coming soon.

[Fran]

So it seems this project is untitled. I have a name

[Ria]

in case you want to call us up.

[Fran]

Although it does seem like around the Holidays has some sort of holiday feel to it. But he's in Vancouver filming, I think, another holiday movie just gonna become the king of the king of holidays. Yeah, holiday movies. I think the movie that they're filming right now is called the White Elephant.

[Ria]

Yes, it is.

[Fran]

Which is, you know, the game that we all play around the time.

[Ria]

Around that time. Around that time.

[Fran]

Around that time when we're exchanging gifts.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

There's actually another movie called the White Elephant with, with Bruce Willis.

[Ria]

Battle of the title. That came out in 2022.

[Fran]

Yankee Swap, you call it Yankee Swap.

[Ria]

Well, they're two different games.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Are they?

[Ria]

White Elephant and Yankee Swap are two different games.

[Noah]

What's the difference?

[Fran]

Look it up.

[Noah]

But Yankee Swap, we just like. It's the same idea where like you all bring gifts and then you go around like you pull a ticket and then you can steal other people's gifts.

[Fran]

I think they are very similar. I think they're kind of the same.

[Ria]

Yeah. Look up, look it up.

[Fran]

Nick Jonas and Catherine Newton are White Elephant. It's a holiday horror film. So he's covering all the holiday genres. Holiday horror, holiday rom com.

[Ria]

I have to be completely honest.

[Fran]

Holiday horror.

[Ria]

No. And I have to be honest, I

[Fran]

don't want any horror in my holiday.

[Ria]

No, no, no, no. And when you are like going down the path of doing holiday movies and horror movies and then you combine them together, it's like, are you struggling? What's going on?

[Fran]

I really want to see the movie that he has coming out with Paul Rudd. Did you see the trailer for that? That looks really.

[Ria]

Yeah, that looks good.

[Noah]

This is the. It says White Elephant and Yankee Swap are essentially the same stealing based gift exchange game, but they differ in tone and intent. White Elephant centers on humorous. White Elephant centers on humorous, useless or gag gifts aimed at producing laughs. While Anki Swap typically focuses on useful, high quality or desirable gifts.

[Fran]

So we take an item.

[Ria]

You're classy.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Keep it classy. Yankee Swap, you're like, you're.

[Noah]

Honestly though, like.

[Ria]

They're not like someone's.

[Fran]

Someone's getting like a new pair of AirPods everyone's fighting over.

[Noah]

Yeah, but honestly, no, I'm sure you have a limit. Yeah, it's not, it's not anything. I mean, at least when we've played, it's nothing like crazy.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

The same thing.

[Ria]

Yeah. Right.

[Fran]

It's just what elephant is like, oh, you could. Someone could get like a cushion.

[Noah]

Your family's like, guys, big news. We're switching a Yankee Swap this year,

[Fran]

which means all the gifts must be upgraded.

[Ria]

Group text goes out.

[Noah]

We are no longer doing wine. No more humorous, useless or gag gifts.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Anyways, use your. Use your Christmas bonuses wisely this season. All right, let's get into today's show. Fran, it's going to be dangerous when you're out on Monday. And me and Noah talk for 40 minutes about Sarah Paulson and Mary Holland.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Mary Holland. Holland Taylor. Mary Holland.

[Fran]

That's a Jeff D. Lowe question.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Wow.

[Guest]

Wow.

[Ria]

All right, let's get into the topics. We're going to be talking about the Alex vs Alex vs Brianna chicken fry drama that's going on. Patrick Schwarzenegger has now been announced that he will be playing Gus in Beach Read Emily Henry's book that is getting a movie adaptation. And. Why am I blanking?

[Fran]

Ticketmaster and Olivia Rodrigo.

[Ria]

Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster, yes. And Ticketmaster is a monopoly. And Olivia Rodrigo seen out on maybe a date with geese. Not to be confused.

[Fran]

Not to be confused with.

[Ria]

Well, his goose with Goose.

[Noah]

His name is Cameron Winter.

[Fran]

No, his name is Cameron. His band is called Geese. But there is also a band called a band called Goose. Like he is. This guy is in a band called Geese.

[Ria]

But there's.

[Fran]

But there's also a band that's called Goose.

[Ria]

And.

[Noah]

And they're both pop. Very popular.

[Fran]

Very popular. And you know, they're.

[Ria]

This is gonna be the drama next.

[Fran]

Yeah. There's not enough geese for the boat.

[Ria]

No, clearly not. All right, let's get into it. Truly is doing something extra fun. They just dropped these limited edition 24 ounce wild berry cans. And they're not just drinks. They're basically collectibles. Each can is designed around a different city. So it's cute, unique, and also a little bit competitive because you kind of want to collect them all. And if you do collect them all and get the full set, you can even enter to win exclusive U.S. soccer merch, which is pretty cool. So right now I got one of the Dallas cans in my hand. We got a couple other cities up here, and if you collect them all, you could enter to win merch. Also, quick reminder, Truly is the official hard seltzer of US Soccer. So they're really leaning into the whole game day energy, making everything feel more social and more fun. And obviously, you're still getting everything you love about Truly, which is the super light, super refreshing, only 100 calories and 1 gram of sugar. So you can keep the vibes going. Go grab the truly 24 ounce wild berry collectible cans at a local store and see how many you can find. So as we slightly discussed, Alex Cooper posted on her Instagram, calling out Brianna chicken Fry, being like, I don't know why you're getting involved with this, saying, I'm gonna just. She's gonna destroy me. We have never met. Here are dms blah Blah, blah. I've never invited you on call her daddy. The whole thing. Yeah. She posted their DMs. Here's. Here's where Alex Cooper went wrong. You gotta make sure you never met. You gotta make sure you never met. Because now everyone is posting when Alex Cooper went on BFFs. Right, right. In person. Right. With Brianna. Right. So it's like, people are just picking that one thing now.

[Noah]

Although, like, does that really change?

[Ria]

No, no, no, it doesn't. It doesn't change.

[Fran]

But she had to be like, oh, yeah, by the way, we did meet one time.

[Ria]

I forgot.

[Fran]

And.

[Ria]

And when you drop, like, a post like that, like, boom. And then you got to go back and be like, we. By the way, we met one time. That, like, it takes away, like, also,

[Noah]

like, she did the thing, which is the worst thing in the world, where you post something and then realize there's a typo and then you delete it for the. Like, she took everything. She posted all those stories and then took them all down.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And people are like, why did she.

[Ria]

So it kind of takes the air out of the tire a little bit when you got to be like, wait, never mind. We did meet that one time.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because immediately people started clipping the show being like, you guys did meet in person. The whole thing basically, like, Brianna, she commented on our post being like, ew. About Alex Cooper. She's commented on a couple other TikToks as well. And then got on her Instagram story to respond back to Alex Cooper's post being like, just basically saying that this. You know, I liked you and was a fan of you before I found out the things about you and, like,

[Fran]

you're a mean girl.

[Ria]

And mentioned how when the whole thing happened with Greece that Dave called Bri and said that Alex said, like, I don't give a shit about you or Grace. I'm just trying to make money. Which is like, duh. You know what I mean? Like, did anyone think that she cared about them? I think it was pretty obvious that she was like, I'm just trying to make. Make a bag right now, and I'm gonna hire Grace so that my company gets some publicity and we get a little money and that type of thing. So I feel like that was pretty obvious. But she went on to say that she's just, like, a mean girl and she doesn't like her and that Alex Earl had told her everything that she did to her two years ago at the Super Bowl. And then Hallie Bachelder. Bachelder. I always Forget how to. Or don't know how to pronounce her last name. But then she jumped on her Instagram story and basically said, like, the commentary that's happening online is discussing disturbing, like, lay off my girl. AC so this is interesting because she has a show at Unwell. She works at Unwell, And Halle is good friends with Alex Cooper, but she's also good friends with Brie.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And they've been hanging out a lot.

[Fran]

A lot. I think they were.

[Ria]

They were at Coachella together, seemingly.

[Fran]

They were at. Spend every day together at Coachella.

[Ria]

Yeah, they've been spending a lot of time together. So she jumps on and puts that on her Instagram story. So at this point, though, I. I need Alex Earl to let us know what happened, because everyone's forming an opinion right now.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

I feel like we need Alex Earl to tell us what happened so that we can form educated opinion on what went down, if it was right, if it was wrong, where, you know, because at this point, it's a lot of he said, she said.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And Alex Earl's just going on living her life, and everyone else is freaking out, and she's kind of like, yeah,

[Fran]

because at this point, I. I'm gonna need more from Earl or else this is a whole big nothing to me. Because to be honest, like, this between Bri and. And Cooper is like, oh, you're a mean girl.

[Ria]

Like, I.

[Fran]

Like, she keeps calling her a mean girl. I'm like, okay, there's. There's mean people out there. Like, you know. You know, that. That, to me, isn't, like, cause for people to be up in arms, because at this point, sometimes, like, I don't really find that to be, like, a groundbreaking thing. And also, so many people get, like, the mean girl label when she's just trying to run a business and get done and, like, make those kinds of decisions. I.

[Ria]

That's why we need to know what happened, because there could be. If you throw out mean girl allegations. Right.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I need to know what was. What was mean. Was it. Is it, like, really, really mean? Like, but then if. So, then that's, you know, up. But if it's not. If it's more just, like, running a business and whatever. And you're right.

[Fran]

If it's more just, like, being cutthroat.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Then.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, and cutting things and. And saying it how it is and being brutally honest, and you get offended. I don't. I don't. I don't know if that's. I don't know. I'm here's where I'm, like, getting confused now, because it just feels that the longer Earl doesn't say anything, it's like, well, then what. What is it that you have? Because if it is just like, we didn't get along and I don't like her now as a person, that's. That happens, and that's fine. And, like, I just think if that was the case, they. Earl looked up to Cooper for a long time. It's kind of what we were saying with Dave and. And not to be, like, crockety old lady here, but, like, there's a difference. Someone coming out in this younger generation coming out and, like, having their first quote, unquote job or, like, having to deal with a boss or whatever could be like, oh, that. Oh, she's a mean boss. But in reality, maybe not mean. Just, like, intense and strong and, like, doesn't take any bs and there is

[Ria]

a conversation to be had about that when it comes to women getting the label of being, like, a bitch or something in business, when really.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

They're just putting their foot down and running a business, you know? So I think that this is why we need. We need information. Because now people are running rampant, and it's like a big takedown, and it's like, well, what it. What is really.

[Fran]

What is the meat of this? What is the source of it?

[Ria]

Because it might be becoming bigger than what it actually is.

[Fran]

Exactly. And that's not. That's kind of her, Earl.

[Ria]

Yeah. And I feel like that is kind of where we're at right now, that it feels maybe bigger than what happened. Unless something crazy really did happen, and she is waiting to say what it is, and in that case, we'll find out. But right now, it feels like, to me that I'm just waiting to know what happened before I make an opinion on, like. Because everyone's like, whose side are you on? It's like, well, I don't know if there's a side to be on yet, because we don't know. You know, like, we. We need. We need both sides of the story to be like, yeah, this is that, you know, Like, I. Because it's just a lot of, like, throwing things out right now without knowing what Alex Earl has to say.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So.

[Fran]

Yeah. And I don't know. I don't really love what Cooper did in regards to Bri either, because it's like, lots of people have had things to say about. About Cooper online. I don't know why it was, like, what Brie was saying to be the

[Noah]

one to get her because she's connected to Dave.

[Fran]

And, like, Dave's like, I suppose, but it's just like, I don't know. That's like, that's weird to me. And, and posting just being like, here's all of our dms, I think is also kind of a lame maneuver because. And Librie said, and I, I. I'm with her on this. Like, you. Just because I was nice to you at some point doesn't mean I like you now. Like, she's posting DMS from four years ago was where they started talking 2022. It's like, yeah, I had a different opinion of you then. I now think differently of you now. And Bri compared it to, like, Zach Brian posting texts when they were together. It's like, yeah, well, when we were together, I was nice to you. Like, I don't know what. Like, when the. Yeah, that's what. Oh, you're like, oh, you're catching me in some big lie that I. That I'm, like, lying that I think or whatever. That, like, now I've changed my tune. People are allowed to change their tune. I could. You could be really nice to Alex Hooper and her dms and then find something out about her and be like, oh, shit, I don't really fuck with that now. I don't like her.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And I just don't really think that, Like, I don't really think Cooper need to post the dms like, that. It was kind of.

[Ria]

I don't know how to. And she also mentioned at the beginning of her statement, like, this girl on girl shit needs to stop. Okay, but then here's all my dm.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So it was kind of. I don't know.

[Fran]

And also on girls, she needs to stop. But here's.

[Ria]

But here's all my DMs.

[Fran]

But here's all my DMs. And now you guys, like, can pit us against each other even more.

[Ria]

Yes. And also, like, I think Alex Cooper has to know how the Internet treats Brianna chicken fries sometimes. And it kind of felt like, all right, yeah, easy target. Easy target. Get off my back now. Here, go at. Go at, Bri.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And so I felt like it just was. Was, you know, it was juicy.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But it was, like, probably unnecessary because it's more about Alex and Alex. Brianna was commenting and stuff, but she clearly knows everybody's commenting. Everybody's commenting on it.

[Fran]

You know, everyone's got something. Like, everyone's got a story. Everybody's got something to say.

[Ria]

There are so Many people, you don't

[Fran]

see Alex Cooper making direct. A direct video about Bravo Mom.

[Guest]

The.

[Fran]

The woman who basically started this whole thing in the first place.

[Ria]

Like, she didn't make a direct comment about Dave.

[Fran]

Yeah. Or yeah. Like, she.

[Ria]

Who's. Yeah, you know, it'.

[Fran]

Like, so. I don't know. I. That. That felt a little unnecessary. Well, yeah. Dave's like, I like all of them. Like, so it's just. But it's just like, with. It's. It is interesting because whatever Earl has, you'd think Cooper would know what it is. If they had some big fight, you think, you know, Cooper would know, but maybe not. Or. Or Cooper is underestimating what it is because it really seems like she's, like, sitting back in her chair. Like, I'm waiting. Like, post it. Let me see what you got. And it's like, oh, well, if it was bad, I don't think you'd be doing that or posting on your story. Like, by the way, this isn't a pr and it's not a PR stunt. Like, it's, you know.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Very strong statements coming out of the Cooper camp.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Which is interesting when we're still waiting to hear everything that Earl has to say. If she ever. If she ever. Who says it?

[Ria]

Really?

[Fran]

All she's posted is a video of her sister and Sally coming into her room Monday morning, Coachella. She's asleep, being like, hey, you got to see this tik tok. And playing Cooper's tik tok for her.

[Ria]

And she said that it made her day.

[Fran]

Yeah. And she. With her being like, that just made my day. Like, pulling out her phone and be like, that just made my day. So you would think posting that means, like, oh, you're, like. You're rubbing your hands.

[Ria]

Ready? Yeah.

[Fran]

And. And we still don't have anything. We're probably gonna finish recording, and something's gonna happen.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

But that's. And. And that is always how it goes.

[Ria]

I will say, though, Brianna just can't stop collecting tea at the Super Bowls, huh?

[Fran]

Because I know.

[Ria]

My goodness. Alex, Earl west, and Amanda.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I'm like, everyone's telling. Well, everyone's telling Bri everything at the Super Bowls.

[Fran]

I will say it is a gossip fest at the Super Bowl.

[Ria]

It must be.

[Fran]

Must be.

[Ria]

I haven't been to super bowl in years, but they.

[Fran]

I mean, think about when we were at the super bowl.

[Ria]

Like, it was a gossip. I'm still talking about the stories from years ago.

[Fran]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ria]

Like, we're still holding on to. From years ago.

[Noah]

We are.

[Fran]

Which is why it's like every year.

[Ria]

You're right. Every year. And now, especially with social media running

[Fran]

rampant, but every year crazy is happening. So I. I don't know.

[Ria]

And then Brianna posted Call me Mommy. Like, she's like, she clearly doesn't care. Like, she's like, listen now. Yeah, she's like used to this. She's like, I'm used to.

[Fran]

Yeah. I feel at this point Brie finds herself in the mix.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then there's like a. There's like a five seconds of like, why the am I in the mix? And then. And then she's like, well, I guess I'll use this to my advantage.

[Ria]

Right? She's like, wait, what am I doing here? But yeah, call me mommy.

[Fran]

Exactly. Normally I really, like, am not in agreement with Bethany Frankel, but she did post a long video about this. And just like one of her points of, you know. And she does. I don't think she really knows Earl that well. It seems like she knows Cooper more and was just speaking to like her worth ethic and all these work ethic and all these things. But she was just like, this is just a narrative for women. Like, men don't have business deals fall apart. And they're going, oh, that guy's not a guy's guy. And you're like, yeah, that is so true. So it's. But that's really going off of if this is just business gone sour.

[Ria]

I saw Paige and Hannah talk about this on Giggly Squad where they were like, we are done with the phrase girls girl. Because people don't even know what they are using for it. Using it for anyone.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Ria]

They are just throwing out she's a girl's girl or she's not a girl's girl.

[Fran]

Or you're saying I'm a girl's girl in defense of bad actions.

[Ria]

Right, Exactly. Or she's not a girl's girl. When someone's just making a decision, like, business wise. So I, you know, I really just want to know everything that happened to give my opinion on whose side I'm on. Because at this point, I don't feel like I can say. Right. Whether or not it's this person or that Speculators. Speculation.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, I agree. And I wish I knew.

[Fran]

I know. And like, Earl really is so sweet. And in our limited. She is our limited interactions with her, she's been nothing but. So lovely.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And so I. That's why I think it's hard because I think Everybody. A lot of people feel that way about her, and they seem very genuine. Yeah. And they. And you, like, want to be. You want to stick up for somebody like that. You want to be like, hey, I want to be in. In their corner. Because they. They don't deserve to be mistreated in any way. But at the same time, it's like, if it really was business gone sour, that doesn't make Alex Cooper some big, giant, evil, mean girl.

[Ria]

So.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Fran]

Well, it's gonna be.

[Ria]

I'm kind of.

[Fran]

As the minutes go by, I'm like, she's. Earl's not gonna do anything, and in a week, everyone's gonna forget about this.

[Ria]

And I wonder if that is a power move or not to just. Not just to just not say anything at all anymore. Or are people gonna be like, wait, what? Why did we. Why did we get into this?

[Fran]

Or hold it over her head where, like, one day I could tell everyone.

[Noah]

I feel like that's a no.

[Fran]

I do think.

[Ria]

I agree at this point, I think she has to, because never post a TikTok again without the comments being like, tell us what happened. Like, the next TikTok she posts, she has not posted since the reaction video is going to be that.

[Noah]

So it's also kind of, like, unfair to, like, insinuate that she's a bad person and not actually back it up with anything.

[Ria]

We need to know. We need to know. We need to know what. What it is that's going on. But, you know, it's like, Bree dangled that in front of everyone, being like, she told me the super bowl. And we're like, tell us. But obviously she could never. She's friends with her. Like, she said, it's not her place story to. It's not her story to tell, so she wouldn't do that, which is very fair. But it. It was interesting that, you know, everyone seemed to be getting into the mix yesterday. Yep. But I saw people messaging us like, you.

[Fran]

You've met them all. How do you feel?

[Ria]

I'm like, we're just.

[Fran]

I don't fucking know.

[Ria]

Yeah. We're in the same camp as everybody else of not knowing what happened. Sure.

[Fran]

We met all of. I don't know what's going on behind. I have the doors of Cooper and Earl.

[Ria]

I have no idea.

[Fran]

That door is locked.

[Ria]

We are not in the firm. We don't know.

[Fran]

We are not part of that firm.

[Ria]

We do not know.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know what I mean? Me and. Me and Bri had some good banter about Amanda and West. When that was all happening, we were texting about it, laughing about, about Dave just like saying everything that Brianna tells him every second. But this one is a little, is a little closer to home for Brie. So we can't, you know, she's not gonna tell us what happened.

[Fran]

Also I'm like, I, I do laugh because I, I, I'm like, bray, you actually can't blame Dave on this one now because now time and time again, like, you know how Dave operates. Like, you can't expect, this is not, it's actually on you now. It's like, it's like, yeah, like you can't, you can't DM Dave and be like, she's gonna destroy her and not think that Dave is going to be like reset. She's gonna destroy. You have to, you have to like, you know that Dave's gonna, Dave's gonna do that.

[Ria]

Any text you send to him, any secret you tell him, anything you tell him can and will be using you

[Fran]

in a court of law.

[Ria]

It is going to, and he definitely has kept in some things for people, I assume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, at the end of the day, if it's juicy shit, yeah, he's gonna get out there and you know, run, run to his seat by the ocean.

[Fran]

If it was something, if it was something that wasn't like currently blowing up, then sure, but he's like in the process of filming himself and you're like, she's gonna, she's gonna destroy her. I was like, like, well that's going

[Ria]

to the next video. He's like, perfect, I got another message to throw in there.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[Ria]

So we, we shall see ticking if we get a, get a response.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Moving on, Olivia Rodrigo scene out with Cameron from Geese. I'm trying to get all the names correctly here. It's not Goose.

[Fran]

Cameron Winter.

[Ria]

Cameron Winter from Geese. You know, lead singer.

[Noah]

Lead singer.

[Ria]

I think people were confused if this

[Noah]

has a solo career, if you're wondering.

[Ria]

Right. I think people were wondering if her and Lewis Partridge were still dating. Yeah, I don't think so.

[Fran]

This line, this seems like. No, Right?

[Ria]

Yeah. It seems like we got the confirmation.

[Noah]

What is that guy from?

[Ria]

He's an actor.

[Fran]

He's an actor. Yeah. Cameron Winter. I can't believe I'm looking at people that were born like past 2000.

[Noah]

He's not that young, though.

[Fran]

No, he's 24. Yeah, but that's young and. But yeah, he's. He's a Brooklyn guy.

[Ria]

That's.

[Noah]

That's it.

[Ria]

Honestly, I don't have much to say about this. Like, I just. I'm like, okay.

[Fran]

In high school, he formed a band, Geese, with his friends from school.

[Ria]

Hell, yeah.

[Fran]

And they're still very much a band.

[Ria]

Geese is such a band name.

[Noah]

I think Sabrina Carpenter was watching them at Coachella. What Sabrina Carpenter was like in the audience Echo watching.

[Fran]

Oh, I was gonna say I. They performed well.

[Noah]

Did you see that they. They covered Baby by Justin Bieber. It's actually pretty good.

[Fran]

Oh, I didn't see. Are they. They're characterized as indie rock. Is that what you would put them in?

[Noah]

I don't. I'm not too well averse. Like, I. I've listened to post punk, some of his songs, experimental rock. Then I like. I like some of their songs. I like some of his solo songs. But there are a lot of songs where it's like full on, like, like yelling, screeching, and like, oh, yeah, there's

[Fran]

some heavy metal stuff in there, but

[Noah]

I would definitely say indie rock is.

[Fran]

Wow. They've released four albums.

[Noah]

They're all like. Like, if you're looking into, like, the pitch, not that that matters, but like, very highly acclaimed, like, in the music world, very well. People are like, oh, he's like the Bob Dylan of our time. Oh, in the music world.

[Ria]

Wow.

[Fran]

Okay, so, you know, Rodrigo caught a good one. Now, there is a band called Goose.

[Ria]

There is band called Goose, and Goose

[Fran]

is also an American rock band.

[Noah]

They're more of like a. They're like a great.

[Fran]

Goose is like. Is a jam. More jam. Danny, like, Joe likes Goose.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

And I. A Goose. I heard of having a band called Goose and a band called Geese.

[Noah]

I feel like Geese makes more sense because it's multiple people. Yeah, yeah. Like Goose. It's like. Is it one guy? Right?

[Fran]

You're just all, Goose. I'm. I'm Goose.

[Noah]

I'm going to see Goose. I'm gonna see.

[Fran]

Yeah, but, you know, it's Coldplay. It's not the Cold Place. Wait, it's like one guy. There's multiple guys in Coldplay, right? It's a singular word.

[Noah]

I've honestly never really thought too deeply about. What. What is Coldplay? Like, what does that.

[Fran]

To be honest, when I. When Coldplay was the first example that came into my mind, I was like, why are they.

[Noah]

But like, what is that? What is Coldplay?

[Fran]

I. That's what I'm saying.

[Ria]

I don't know what.

[Fran]

I don't know what the name origin of Coldplay is.

[Noah]

Coldplay, meaning. Coldplay's name has no deep hidden meaning. The band adopted it from a classmate. Yeah, that's it. That says there's no meaning behind it.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'm saying there's plenty of. There's plenty of bands that have a singular.

[Noah]

Be like Beatle or the Beatles.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, right.

[Noah]

Well, yeah, the Rolling Stone.

[Fran]

Now there's the Rolling Stones, the Stones, the Beatles, the Foo Fighters.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'm looking this up now. I'm very interested. Queen.

[Fran]

Queen.

[Noah]

That's. Yeah, yeah, that's one.

[Ria]

Queen.

[Noah]

Van Halen. You always think that's like one kind of, you know.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Noah]

Tame Impala is one of those where people think it's like a huge man, but it's. Yeah, that one. Actually, it's the opposite.

[Ria]

I feel like abba.

[Fran]

It's not that.

[Ria]

Yeah. I feel like Queen is the best example.

[Fran]

Queen is a good one. Not Queens. It's just.

[Noah]

Yeah, but I feel like Encapsulates like the meaning of versus geese.

[Fran]

But yeah, he was spotted out to dinner with.

[Noah]

Was that on set or am I making that up? The picture, I was like, does that.

[Fran]

It was in la.

[Noah]

It kind of looked like that restaurant that we had.

[Ria]

Blondie.

[Fran]

Blondie.

[Ria]

That's a good one. That's a band.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah. Led Zeppelin.

[Ria]

No, that's like.

[Noah]

But that one I've all.

[Ria]

I thought, no one's like, who's Led.

[Noah]

No, no. I thought when I was a kid, I was like, led Zeppelin.

[Ria]

He's a guy, I guess.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Thought that was a name for sure.

[Noah]

You too?

[Ria]

No, Bon Jovi.

[Noah]

That one I thought was a guy.

[Fran]

Well, it is, but the band is called Bon Jovi.

[Noah]

But then, like, I guess that you want to count that because it's just like the Bon Jovi's band.

[Fran]

No, no, the band. They're called Bon Jovi.

[Noah]

I know, but that's his name. So it's like. That'd be like John Mayer's band is called the John Mayer Trio. Like.

[Fran]

Yeah, but.

[Ria]

But they'll be like that. Songs by Bon Jovi. And it's the whole band.

[Fran]

Yes, the whole band. It's not just.

[Ria]

But I guess that one's a little less. I see what you mean there.

[Noah]

Interesting.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Naming band Leonard Skynyrd.

[Fran]

Right?

[Ria]

That one is like. That sounds like a guy.

[Fran]

Right? I feel like there's probably a bunch

[Noah]

of the Almond Brothers. There's multiple brothers.

[Fran]

Yeah. Now, I was trying to think country.

[Noah]

I'm not really Florida.

[Fran]

Georgia Line.

[Noah]

What about rap?

[Fran]

Two people.

[Noah]

Or hip hop? The Black Eyed Peas?

[Fran]

Well, now you're naming plurals.

[Noah]

No, no, I know. I'm just saying like. I'm saying they are all plural. Like, they're not the Black Eyed.

[Guest]

Pee Pee.

[Fran]

Yeah, there's a lot.

[Ria]

Yeah, Yeah. G Unit. G Unit is a group of rappers.

[Noah]

But if it's a unit, that is plural.

[Ria]

True, true, true. But G Unit sounds like.

[Noah]

Like, that's one.

[Ria]

When 50 Cent used to be like, G Unit used to think, like, his nickname was G Unit. Or at least I used to think that.

[Fran]

One Direction.

[Noah]

Yeah, there's only one direction. The Backstreet.

[Fran]

The One Direction.

[Noah]

Backstreet Boy. In sync.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Wow. We could just go on for days.

[Fran]

Yeah, we could. But no. Anyway, Olivia went out. It seemed like they were just on a stroll. What they got in a. A dinner date in la. I wonder if this was like. I wonder if this came out of the Coachella performance. Maybe someone was like, hey, you got to meet Olivia.

[Noah]

I don't think she was act. Was she at Coachella?

[Fran]

But I don't think she was.

[Noah]

I think that I saw somewhere that she was at a show of theirs in Paris recently. So maybe this has been on.

[Fran]

The pair could be seen smiling as they return to their car after their meal.

[Ria]

Wait, what's the band that Bruno Mars is in?

[Noah]

Oh, Silk Sonic.

[Fran]

Silk Sonic.

[Ria]

No, that's not.

[Fran]

Oh, with Anderson.

[Ria]

Anderson Paak.

[Fran]

That's one guy.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Oh, okay.

[Noah]

That can't be his actual name though.

[Fran]

No, but that's just him, right?

[Noah]

It's just Anderson.

[Ria]

Anderson Pack is just an. Okay. I thought and so Pack maybe had a band another.

[Noah]

Okay. The stage name of Anderson. His name is Brandon Paak. Anderson. Interesting.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Okay. Yeah. If anything, I think that this is just confirmed that the back and forth with.

[Guest]

With.

[Fran]

With Louis Partridge because I think there was like, oh, did they break up? Did they get back together? Did they break up? Kind of. This kind of answers that question. Feels like they must have completely broken up.

[Ria]

Yeah. We got an answer.

[Fran]

She's back dating.

[Ria]

Patrick Schwarzenegger has been cast as Gus and Beach Read. How do you feel? I haven't read that book. So what's the take on it?

[Fran]

Here's the thing. Book talk is up in arms.

[Ria]

They don't like this. Oh my God.

[Fran]

Girls are screaming into their Tick tock.

[Guest]

Really?

[Fran]

It's all over my.

[Ria]

For you.

[Fran]

Oh my God.

[Ria]

They're going.

[Fran]

They're yelling, patrick Schwarzenegger for Gus. I refuse to see this movie. They're screaming.

[Ria]

What is. They're characteristics.

[Fran]

I will tell you what his description is in the meaning.

[Ria]

Writer, right?

[Fran]

Yeah. Yes. But he's also like just physically not the same.

[Noah]

He's been pretty quiet since White Lotus.

[Ria]

They just started filming in the south of France this week.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Did you see like the plot of it?

[Ria]

Yeah, can.

[Noah]

That's cool.

[Ria]

I like it too.

[Fran]

Oh, for White Lotus. Yeah.

[Ria]

It's going to take place during the Cannes.

[Noah]

Like it's like all week. People.

[Ria]

Yeah, like no, like actors and stuff of that.

[Noah]

Give me a good cameo. Like George Clooney walks by.

[Ria]

Yeah, I could see it.

[Fran]

I gotta find. Maybe I should just like, why there's

[Ria]

like a nice Wait when they do

[Noah]

right now like the actual film. Because I was like, are they gonna shoot it when it's actually no Cannes in June?

[Ria]

They might. They might capture some things if they're still filming at that time.

[Noah]

Remember, like, was that ocean's 13 that

[Ria]

when they did the.

[Noah]

And they actually filmed the Met gala

[Ria]

stuff like I checked the weather, though, because I was like, what's it like there right now? Because it shut down. It doesn't really open. Probably mid April or end of April, it'll open up again for guests. Probably end of April. Weather's nice right now. It's like 75 degrees. So they got. They got shut down filming in Cannes. Like, that's sick.

[Noah]

Did you catch that pun?

[Ria]

Yeah, it's nice. Yes.

[Fran]

God. Sorry, I can't find the exact. I just saw the Tick tock and I should have saved it. I saw last night. That had the exact description of him. Excerpt of what he.

[Noah]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, Phoebe Dynevor. Lucky.

[Fran]

Hold on, I think I got it.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. You really are crushing hard.

[Fran]

He does look.

[Noah]

I do like Phoebe. Nine of her a lot.

[Ria]

Does the description match Noah a little bit better?

[Fran]

Yeah, it actually does a little bit.

[Noah]

For what? The book?

[Ria]

Yeah, I am on the.

[Fran]

Okay. Olive skin, cheekbones, strong cheekbones.

[Noah]

All right, you lost me.

[Fran]

Crooked mouth and a husky voice. Okay, this is messy dark hair.

[Ria]

Why? Yeah, this is not.

[Fran]

That's how you describe Augustus Everett, which I. Which are no descriptive terms I would use for Patrick's worst.

[Noah]

Quite literally, everything I feel like. What do you mean?

[Fran]

Olive skin.

[Noah]

Olive skin's the only thing I feel.

[Ria]

Husky voice.

[Noah]

I mean, he puts on a voice olive.

[Fran]

You kind of just like.

[Ria]

I see dark hair, husky voice.

[Fran]

Every Bones casting was, like, so drastically different. You know who people really wanted. And I saw this all over TikTok. Was the guy that is from Game of Thrones or was he in Game of Thrones? No, not House of the Dragon. And then he was in Task the young, the.

[Ria]

What's his name?

[Fran]

Fabian Frankel.

[Noah]

Fabian Frankel.

[Fran]

You know, the guy from. He was the. Yeah, the cop in. Who was working with the.

[Noah]

Oh, yeah, with the drug dealer. Oh, he's good.

[Ria]

That's. That's perfect casting.

[Fran]

Olive skin, messy dark hair.

[Ria]

Messy dark hair.

[Fran]

Yeah. People are people. That's. I will say that was the overwhelming consensus on Booktok from what I saw was that people were really rooting for. For him. So it's like, you look at that compared to Patrick Schwarzenegger, it's impressive. And people are. And here's the thing, I will say, like, a little unfair to Patrick Schwarzenegger because he got the role. He. He. He did.

[Guest]

And.

[Fran]

And here's the thing. Like, we have to get past the White Lotus thing. That's what. That's what I think people are stuck on because I. It's like. And we joked about this when the show came out, I was like, ah, you're kind of stuck being like, you're. Are you stuck in that role where people are always going to remember you for your White Lotus character is a Patrick Schwarzenegger?

[Ria]

Because I'm like, I've never read this book, but I'm just as up in arms, I think, with just.

[Fran]

It's polar opposite of what the book is.

[Ria]

That's what it is. And it's not the white. I don't see the White Lotus. Like, it's an actor. Like, he can.

[Fran]

Yes, right.

[Ria]

But I say we're.

[Fran]

You're casting the fucking frat boy brother fucker as our Gus Everett.

[Ria]

Frat boy brother fucker.

[Fran]

I just made that up.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

In so many words. That's what they're saying.

[Ria]

That's what they're saying.

[Fran]

Frat boy, instant storyline.

[Ria]

White rat brother fucker. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, when you say it like that.

[Fran]

When you say like that, you're like,

[Ria]

yeah, he was acting.

[Fran]

He was just reading the lines he was given.

[Ria]

Right. And I just feel like it. It's just like the characteristics don't match. But maybe they'll dye his hair and.

[Fran]

Yeah, I know. It's like a little bit like anti. It's like, it's like anti nepotism when he. He's not getting this role because of that. But everyone's like, like, annoyed because you're like, patrick Schwarzenegger is gonna play this guy, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah. Was it. Was his audition that good?

[Fran]

They. They allegedly went through a lot of people. And Phoebe Dynavore, he must have good chemistry with her, despite everyone saying, like, siblings are dating, which I also totally

[Guest]

think they look like.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You see their picture side by side. They could totally be siblings.

[Ria]

That's a good call, that.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's a major. Siblings are dating. When you. When you see them next to each

[Ria]

other, they have like, like mouth, nose. I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

[Fran]

Like, they really look like they could be related.

[Ria]

Okay, well, you know what? I. I see what people are saying, but I think they got to give it a chance. Right?

[Fran]

Like, we got. I know. I think it's just like assumptions about Patrick Schwarzenegger as a person that they're like, that they can't get past.

[Ria]

Oh, you know,

[Fran]

which is. Which is like, we don't really. None of. No one really knows him that way. I feel like we don't know anything.

[Guest]

I know.

[Fran]

Their search for this deadline wrote. The search for Gus was an extensive process that took place over many months. And while initially he was a dark horse candidate and an unexpected choice, Schwarzenegger's tape and chemistry read with Dynavore blew away filmmakers and the studio.

[Ria]

If you blow away.

[Fran]

I know. I mean, if your audition is that good, where they're like, he doesn't quite fit the description that we were going for, but he was that good. We have to cast him. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but, my God, when I first saw this, I. I did agree with everybody. I was like, wait, wait one second. This is just so not who I was picturing.

[Ria]

They were clearly like, we just can't get them off our mind.

[Fran]

Yeah, they. Yeah, exactly.

[Ria]

Reed was so good.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

His beach read was that good. Last topic. I assume you were fired up about this. Ticketmaster was found to be. I don't even know what does this even mean?

[Noah]

What does this even mean, though, going forward?

[Ria]

I don't know what I mean.

[Fran]

It just. It.

[Ria]

They have found that they're in the wrong.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

But what does that mean for everybody who spent all their money on these tickets and have waited in these queues and everything?

[Fran]

Probably. Here's the thing. Probably nothing.

[Ria]

Probably nothing.

[Fran]

Probably nothing. But it will be changed for the

[Ria]

future, and that's what matters.

[Fran]

And that's what matters.

[Ria]

That is true.

[Noah]

Like. Like, tickets are gonna have to be put out.

[Fran]

I think that they might have to. Like, they might have to separate as a company. Ooh. Like Live Nation and Ticketmaster. They're a monopoly that you got to break up the monopolies.

[Noah]

But if Live Nation and Ticketmaster separate, does that actually change that much?

[Fran]

I think so here. All right, so New York jury ruled on Wednesday that Live Nation and its Ticketmaster unit operated as an illegal monopoly, handing dozens of states an important legal win against the ticketing giant. The states in the civil case accused Live Nation of stifling competition, limiting consumer choice, and driving up ticket prices for concert goers, concert growers. Here's the thing. Live Nation, it's like, you go on tour, Live Nation owns. Runs all these venues. They. What?

[Guest]

You.

[Fran]

You can't use anything else but Ticketmaster to sell tickets because Live Nation owns Ticketmaster. If those aren't. They're not together, you can use some of these other, like, ticketing distributors who will fairly sell tickets. Live Nation reached a deal with the Department of Justice in March to pay $280 million to states that sued the company over its practices. However, a coalition of more than 30 states rejected the federal statement and settlement and vowed to move forward with litigation. New York Attorney General Tisha James describing the suit as an effort to, quote, restore fair competition to the live entertainment industry. As part of the March agreement with the Justice Department, Ticketmaster was required to sell at least 13 of its amphitheaters and enable third parties to use its technology platform to sell tickets. Now, a judge could eventually reject the settlement in light of the ruling on the state's complaint. Ticketmaster has long clashed with artists, including Pearl Jam, which filed an anti monopoly complaint against the business in the 1990s. Ticketmaster also also famously ignited a backlash in 2022 for its handling of ticket sales for Taylor Swift's Heirs tour. Live Nation Entertainment owns or has an equity interest in hundreds of venues around the US which it also operates and for which it controls bookings. Live Nation put out a statement on Wednesday saying the jury's verdict is not the last word on this matter. Pending motions will determine whether the liability and damages ruling stand. Of course they'll try and they'll try and appeal and all those things and do and do all that. They're gonna come up with some crazy number that's like, oh, you owe all the states this amount of money for.

[Noah]

And what are the states doing with that money? Can they, can they sell?

[Fran]

I think it's like people are in the. Are in part of the class action lawsuits. The judge in the case will now determine the total damages amount and penalties, according to California Attorney General Rob Bon's office, which is part of the lawsuit. In the face of dwindling antitrust enforcement by the Trump administration, this verdict shows just how far states can go to protect our residents from big corporations that are using their power to illegally raise prices and rip off Americans. He said. New York jury found the Ticketmaster overcharged customers and 22 cents by an average of a dollar and 72 cents per ticket.

[Ria]

That's all.

[Fran]

That doesn't seem like a lot.

[Ria]

Doesn't seem like that much of an overcharge.

[Fran]

Yeah. If a judge ordered the company to issue refunds, it could result in Live Nation owing consumers hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Ria]

Okay, so they owe hundreds.

[Fran]

But it's like, okay, does everyone get. Everyone gets 1.72 back? I don't know. I don't know.

[Ria]

Isn't it hundreds of dollars?

[Fran]

They've been overcharging Live Nation and ticket.

[Noah]

A lot of tickets.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Live Nation and Ticketmaster could also be forced to divest concert venues or even to break up.

[Ria]

Up.

[Fran]

So. So that's like, what I was saying is like, you can't you can't run the venues and sell the tickets for them.

[Ria]

Fair.

[Fran]

Which is where. Which is where it was.

[Ria]

Damn.

[Fran]

That's how we felt.

[Ria]

All right, well, listen, you said a lot of words that.

[Fran]

I don't know if I have any

[Noah]

more clarity than I do.

[Fran]

It's a lot of legal. It's a lot of jargon.

[Ria]

I even know. Even after that, we don't know.

[Fran]

And they don't know because it's still ongoing. It's like it's. It's small increments of wins. And like, this is a win.

[Noah]

Can they appeal this?

[Ria]

Yeah. Talk about small increments. 172 is a small increment. That's not a big increment.

[Fran]

No, no, no.

[Ria]

We're talking about, you know, a lot more than that.

[Fran]

Well, Live Nations. Yeah, yeah, it is a lot. And obviously plenty of people will be

[Ria]

like, Well, I paid $1,000.

[Fran]

Far more than. Far more than that. No, it's just going to. It's going to go like this because Live Nation is going to appeal or fight back in some way, and they'll go back and forth. Maybe nothing will happen. But at least this is a small win that. That. A small win of recognition that, yes, you were and are screwing over millions of people who are trying to go see concerts Beat Re and Fran is presented by State Farm. Sure, being expert at celeb trivia is pretty impressive. You know what's even more impressive? Being smart about saving money for your dream home or a sweet new ride. And a great way to do that is saving. When you choose to bundle home and auto with the State Farm personal price plan bundling. Just another way to save. With the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts, and savings and eligibility vary by state.

[Ria]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another game of Beatri and Fran. This is game number 215, and we are joined by Molly and Delaney. Not only are they co workers, but they're friends. Before work, they went to college together and they are ready to play. So welcome to the show.

[Guest]

Thank you.

[Fran]

We are pumped to play. It is 15 questions. If you get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's going to give us a movie. We're going to guess the Rotten Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will go first. We each get our Own guests. We alternate between team for teams for guesses. So, Noah, what is today's movie?

[Noah]

Today's movie is. Is Greece.

[Fran]

Greece. Oh, gee. First one.

[Noah]

Yeah. I didn't even know there was another one.

[Ria]

Yeah, Greece too.

[Guest]

Oh, there's Greece too.

[Ria]

Yeah. All right, so one of you will go first.

[Guest]

I'm gonna say a tie. Yeah, 88. Oh, sure. I'll do 92.

[Fran]

It's okay, 92. What's yours? Rhea.

[Ria]

It should be very high, but I'm gonna get. Yeah, 63.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'm going to say 70.

[Noah]

63 is the closest. 65. Ooh.

[Guest]

Wow, that's a shame.

[Noah]

I feel like we have to watch that in school and that was the only time I watched it.

[Ria]

Oh, I never watched it in school. I watched school.

[Fran]

It's like a little risque.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I don't know if I'd ever choose to watch it, like, on my own, but I remember watching it, so. Okay, question number one to Re and France, Shout out Lauren from Fort Worth, who played the President's daughter in Corey in the House.

[Ria]

Is this do? Yeah. Madison. I have no clue. Madison Pettis. Is that her name? Yeah. Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Nice. Oh, the little girl.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

She's not little. She's not little anymore. And when you see.

[Ria]

Yeah, but she'll always be little.

[Fran]

No, but like, when you see her, you're like, ah, she grew, not little.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

Okay, one, nothing. Ran. Fran. Question number two to Molly and Delaney. Shout out. Natalie from Philly. Matt Damon and Jessica Chastain are in two space related movies together. Name the two movies.

[Ria]

Two space movies.

[Guest]

Met Damon. He was in like, what was it called? Interstellar. No, not Interstellar. No. Was it the Martian? Is he. Yes, the Martian.

[Noah]

And then 15 seconds.

[Guest]

What's the. I have no idea. I only know one. I know one part of gravity because that's. No, no, think of another one. Say it up.

[Noah]

Time is up.

[Guest]

The Martian and Interstellar.

[Noah]

Correct. Ooh.

[Guest]

Oh, wow.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, just throw out two space movies and. Yeah, space movies.

[Noah]

The fastest you can go back to back years. 2014.

[Fran]

And yeah, it's also like. Yeah, you remember each of them individually for each movie.

[Noah]

I remember when I first watched Interstellar and when Matt Damon came, I was like, what is ha. Like, I've never seen. Oh, so that's spoiled. It's like the most random. It's like more than halfway through the movie. Really?

[Ria]

Yeah. No, I've never seen it.

[Fran]

Fantastic.

[Noah]

Oh, that's a great movie. All right, Tied up at one Question number three to Rand. Fran, shout out Mackenzie from Milwaukee and Baby Brooks, who was cooking up in her belly at the Milwaukee live show in October. She said we shouted to Wes that someone with kids was a red flag, but turns out he was the red flag.

[Ria]

True.

[Fran]

She got her question in. And a flame.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Noah]

All right, name the actor that appears in all of the following movies. Horrible bosses too. Don't worry, darling. Into the woods.

[Fran]

Don't worry, darling.

[Ria]

Into the woods.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

I can't think of anything like else. I. I don't think. I've never seen A World of Bosses. One or two. I don't think.

[Ria]

Really?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Ria]

Oh, wow.

[Fran]

Because I. I'm gonna guess James Corden.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect team.

[Ria]

Don't worry, darling. No, but he's just.

[Fran]

Into the woods.

[Ria]

What is it?

[Guest]

No, is his name's not like Nick or something like that? No, I have no idea. I don't know. The only person I can think who else is in that movie is like, Olivia Wilde, right? Yeah. Olivia Wilde.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Chris Pine.

[Guest]

We were talking about it yesterday, but I couldn't look at the name.

[Fran]

Damn.

[Ria]

I totally, like, couldn't think of any other guy that was in Don't Worry Darling besides Harrison. Literally. Damn. How could I forget?

[Noah]

All right, question number four. And this is to Molly and Delaney. It's still tied up at one. Shadow McKenzie from Maki.

[Ria]

Again.

[Noah]

I'm not going to read the whole extra stuff this time.

[Guest]

That's fair.

[Noah]

What fruit scent does Sabrina Carpenter say her air freshener is in her song House tour?

[Guest]

I have no clue. Strawberry. Sure. Strawberry.

[Noah]

Incorrect written frame.

[Fran]

I have no clue. I actually don't really think I know any other words besides the chorus because that's just what you see played on.

[Guest]

That's all I have.

[Fran]

Social media.

[Ria]

Because that's it.

[Guest]

That.

[Fran]

That like 20 seconds. What is it? An air freshener?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Green apple.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Ria]

I mean, you know, any guess is good right now. Green apple.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Pineapple.

[Fran]

Oh,

[Guest]

that makes a lot of sense.

[Noah]

The pineapple air freshener is my favorite kind. Okay, still tied to one. And this is question number five to Ran Fran, shout out Annie from Chicago.

[Ria]

Isn't it weird how your brain does that? It's like it knows something, but it's not that. Right? It's like green apple, but it's pineapple. You know, like your brain knows it's like something close, but it not.

[Noah]

That's why you said green apple.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Ria]

Like, I think like your brain just like.

[Noah]

I mean, you get what I'm saying?

[Ria]

Like, you know.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

Okay. Shout out. Andy from Chicago. What is the name of the basketball team in running point? The Los Angeles Blank.

[Fran]

I forget. Los Angeles.

[Ria]

Something. Is it something like sort of bear? But it has to be like an L, right?

[Fran]

Like a. No, not necessarily.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Ria]

Bear crawlers. I don't know.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Ria]

I don't know. The bear crawlers.

[Noah]

Final answer, Incorrect. Shockingly.

[Guest]

Should we go with something big? I don't know. Why stars like popping into my brain. Star. Yeah, like the stars. I don't think that's right, though. Sure. Stars.

[Noah]

The Los Angeles waves.

[Fran]

Waves, waves, waves.

[Ria]

Very close.

[Fran]

Stars would also make sense.

[Guest]

Bears and waves are all the same.

[Ria]

Very close.

[Noah]

I guess there are a lot of bears in la, you know, any.

[Ria]

Listen, any guess would have been good when you don't know it.

[Noah]

Yeah, I like that you were like not just the Los Angeles Bears but the Los Angeles Bear Crawler.

[Fran]

Well, she added crawlers.

[Ria]

I don't know. It just. It felt right.

[Noah]

All right, question number six. Still tied up at one. This is. And this is to Molly and Delaney. Shout out Kylie. I've never seen that spelling. It's K, I, L, E, Y. From Chicago.

[Ria]

K, I.

[Fran]

Is that L, E, Y?

[Noah]

No, but Kylie, I've always seen ky.

[Fran]

Oh, I know a bunch. I know.

[Noah]

Really?

[Fran]

I know Kylie spelled that way.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Interesting.

[Ria]

Okay, first for me as well.

[Noah]

In Friends when Monica asked Joey to borrow money and not tell Chandler. What lie does Joey tell Chandler? The money is for.

[Guest]

The money is for. I know this too. Yeah.

[Ria]

I have no clue.

[Guest]

No clues for. For cooking classes. I know that's not right.

[Fran]

Just.

[Guest]

Monica's a chef.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Ria]

I just started my friend's rewatch two nights ago from at the very beginning. This is. This is later season. Because it's for Joey.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Ria]

I. I honestly don't. Any idea. Acting classes.

[Noah]

Final answer, incorrect. Monica. He said Monica's boob job.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

That's funny.

[Noah]

All right.

[Fran]

Good stuff.

[Ria]

Yeah. Good episode.

[Noah]

All right, we hit a cold streak here. Still tied up at one. Question number seven to reinfrence out at Lauren from Fort Worth on watch what happens live with Andy Cohen. Andy always has a sports team hat and paraphernalia right behind him. What city is it from?

[Ria]

Is this us?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Ria]

St. Louis.

[Fran]

St. Louis.

[Ria]

Final answer correct. St. Louis guy.

[Noah]

I don't know if I knew that.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's why he bonds so much with Tom Sandoval.

[Noah]

Okay. Two, one. Reinforced.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's true.

[Noah]

Oh, and yeah, Wes is from St. Louis. Oh. For some reason, I thought he was from Milwaukee because he was like, Missouri. Yeah. Okay. Two, one. Ran. Fran, question number eight to Molly and Delaney. Shadow Erica from Connecticut in Entourage. Who is a celebrity that gets into a car accident with Eric?

[Guest]

I literally just watched this show, too. I know. You know it. I can't think of it. What celebrities were in five seconds. Okay, throw one out. Trying to remember a girl's name. I can't remember

[Noah]

five seconds.

[Guest]

Say something parasailted. Correct.

[Ria]

It's on a Ferris.

[Noah]

Correct. And then they, like, have a little.

[Ria]

But really, like, she wants him to manage him, you know?

[Noah]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Remember her boyfriend sucked.

[Ria]

Sucked.

[Noah]

Yeah. Okay. Three, one. Rhian. Fran. Question number nine is this is to reenfranch Shadow Ashley from Pittsburgh. Name. This year, the final episode of Full House airs. The song waterfalls by TLC is released and the first Toy Story is released.

[Ria]

1999. 1998.

[Fran]

Last episode episode of Full House.

[Ria]

Feel like it's 98.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Ria]

First Toy Story movie.

[Fran]

I feel like 98 too.

[Ria]

All right. Yeah. Go 98. A 1998 final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Guest]

It's 90. It's 95 through 97. Really? I feel. No, no. What should I say? Pick a number. 5, 6, or 7. 97.

[Noah]

Incorrect. 95.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

Earlier than I was close. Wow. The first Toy story came out before I was born. That's crazy.

[Noah]

You know what else happened that year? I was born.

[Ria]

Big year.

[Noah]

Big year.

[Ria]

Big year.

[Noah]

And tlc. Waterfalls is my hangover song too. So makes sense.

[Ria]

Helps you get through the morning.

[Noah]

It really does. I don't know why. Sure, it is soothing.

[Ria]

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[Noah]

3, 1. Still re and Fran, this is question number 10. Tamale and Delaney. I'm gonna play a movie clip and you tell me what movie it's from. What is your position on the role of government in supporting innovation in the field of biotechnology? Well, Dean, I'm glad that you asked that question. Actually, I'd like to jump in and take that one, Jimmy, if you don't mind. Recent research has shown that empirical evidence for globalization of corporate innovation is very limited. And as a corollary, the market for technologies is shrinking. As a world leader, it's important for

[Ria]

America to provide systematic research grants for.

[Noah]

For a scientist.

[Guest]

Oppenheimer. For no reason. I have no clue. Spitzel. Oppenheimer.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Fran]

Was it Clooney?

[Ria]

The. The actor is on the tip of my tongue.

[Fran]

Don't look up.

[Ria]

Would he given us another question of don't look up? He just gave us.

[Fran]

Yeah, I couldn't really, really place any of the voices.

[Ria]

Oh,

[Fran]

damn it.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Fran]

Some sort of hearing happening.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Noah]

Time is out.

[Ria]

Please tell me, please tell me.

[Noah]

Old school. That's Will Ferrell.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Oh, old school.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Not even close.

[Noah]

And that was. And that was Jeremy Piven.

[Ria]

Yes. That was on the tip of my tongue. Dang it.

[Noah]

It is funny. It's Oppenheimer. I mean, if you didn't know. Yeah. Okay. It is still three. One. Rhian. Fran. This question.

[Fran]

Some all time guesses from us.

[Ria]

This.

[Guest]

This game.

[Noah]

This question is to re.

[Ria]

These are hard.

[Noah]

Shadow Emily from Michigan. In a season five episode of the King of Queens, Arthur reignites his addiction to what common drugstore item.

[Ria]

Nasal spray. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just gonna say nasal spray.

[Noah]

Finally answer correct.

[Fran]

Y.

[Noah]

All right. Four one of queens.

[Ria]

King of queens.

[Fran]

Entourage, this is a RIA game.

[Noah]

Yeah. Question number 12. And this is to Molly and Delaney. Shout out Ally from North Carolina. On season four of Real Housewives of New Jersey, Melissa's storyline included her aspiring singing career in a live performance of her dad debut song. What was the name of the song?

[Guest]

Yes. On display.

[Noah]

Final answer.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Ria]

Nice. Each and every day, they each had their moment, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Guest]

It was beautiful.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Fran]

Recording studio. Yep.

[Noah]

Four, two. Ran Friend question number 13 to Ran Fran, Shout out Natalie from Philly. Name all of the Taylor Swift albums that have title tracks.

[Ria]

What does that mean? Title tracks?

[Fran]

The name of the album is a song.

[Ria]

Oh, okay. So lover definitely does.

[Fran]

Lover.

[Noah]

Red.

[Ria]

Red. Folklore. No. Okay.

[Fran]

Lover.

[Ria]

Red.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Ria]

Fearless. The life of a showgirl.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Fran]

We don't know how many. No, that's would have been a help.

[Noah]

It would.

[Ria]

You just have to say how many.

[Fran]

I think that's it.

[Ria]

Those ones.

[Fran]

That's all we got.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Fran]

Those voices.

[Guest]

Lover. Speak now. Fearless. Speak now. Fearness. Fearless. Lover. Rudd. Life of a showgirl. Life of a showgirl. Evermore is a song, right? Yeah. Evermore is folklore a song? No.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Guest]

All right, what was it again? Speak now. Fearless Rudd. Lover. Evermore. Life of a showgirl. Six.

[Noah]

Six.

[Ria]

Yeah, six.

[Noah]

Incorrect. You forgot one. The tortured poet society or

[Guest]

I forgot about that song.

[Noah]

Seven total.

[Fran]

Seven total.

[Noah]

All right, question number 14. And you guys need to get the final two rights sent to overtime. And this is to Molly and Delaney. Shout out Mackenzie from Milwaukee and Baby Brooks. Again.

[Ria]

Again.

[Noah]

What actual actor? Thanks. Sal Saperstein. First at the Golden Globes in the show. The studio.

[Guest]

What actual actor?

[Noah]

Like real life actor.

[Guest]

Real life actor who's friends with Seth Roman. Oh, really? Seth Rogen. Final answer incorrect.

[Ria]

Dave Franco.

[Fran]

Was he the first one?

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Fran]

Is that gonna remember him or. Or Adam Scott?

[Ria]

Oh, But I don't remember who was the first one.

[Fran]

Adam Scott was definitely in the mix.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Ria]

Maybe Adam Scott.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Let's go. Adam Scott.

[Noah]

Final answer correct.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Guest]

Wow.

[Noah]

Remember he said he slept on his couch for like six months? Okay, that seals a victory.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Noah]

Five. Two. We'll do the final question and this to Re and Fran. Shout out Lauren from Indianapolis after starring on the Hills. What was the name of Whitney Port's spin off show?

[Ria]

The City?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Final answer correct. Woohoo.

[Fran]

Great show.

[Ria]

You know, we picked up steam in the end.

[Noah]

Six. Two. Finals.

[Ria]

Yes. Sorry, girls, I'm sorry. You know, I'm celebrating right in front of your face. But I'm happy to win, you know.

[Noah]

Hey, two is not bad.

[Ria]

Two is not bad. Thank you guys so much for playing though. Thank you for answering the call last minute.

[Fran]

Thank you guys so much.

[Ria]

Thank you so much.

[Guest]

Seriously.

[Fran]

Don't me tell. Yeah, don't tell anyone.

[Ria]

Right? But thank you so much and we'll send you some merch. So send over your address and size and we'll get that sent to you.

[Fran]

Thank you guys so much.

[Ria]

Nice meeting you guys. Bye. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you. We love you. We do love you, but we hope you have an amazing weekend. We love you so very much. And we'll talk to you on Monday.

[Musical Interlude]

Yeah. Chick's in the office.

[Noah]

Longtime listener, first time callers

[Musical Interlude]

look at the charts. Who doesn't the best two chicks getting paid in reality checks? You can find them at the gym it's not even a flex? Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet? Yeah, they're who you want to be? They're always on your screen? Two queens and they might be spilling royalty? A lot of topics that are popping here to get into I know a show that you probably want to listen? Turn the heat up, turn the beat up record the pod made a bag, put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up? Who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up? Turn the beat up, record the pod made a bag, put their feet up? The ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up? Who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Ria]

Sam.